Inside the Mind of a Child Killer: David McGreevy's Disturbing Story | Murder Casebook | Real Crime
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- David McGreavy murdered the three children of a family to whom he was a lodger and babysitter. Fred Dinenage discovers the critical mistake that cost the children their lives.
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How can it be that killing three children and abusing their bodies gets a sentence that permits the possibility of ever leaving prison?
It's the British justice systym.
But it's a system that was built, so it can be changed and adapted by choice. Cases of this gravity and brutality should be punished much harder. There is no explanation to his actions, and there is no guaranty he will not do it again. He lost his right when he did what he did, and he is facing the consequences, not only by the justice system, also by society. There is no good reason to give him his rights back, if he himself is absolutely capable of violating the rights of others in that manner.
Even if the system sentenced him so lenient NOW, does not mean it has to stay like that.
But for that change to happen, people need to stand up for THEIR rights, and not just complain, that it is how it is.
England.
Canada is same depraved insanity.
Life here, means a maximum of 25 yrs, regardless that you murdered 1 person or 6. A life sentence also runs concurrently. So murder a person and you're out on parole after 9 yrs.Its beyond comprehension
He expects basic human rights but completely violated the rights of three young children. It's so heartbreaking. What a selfish, evil man!
What a horrible legal system! In the US, he’d get life, no parole.
I lost my son in a horrible accident in 2012, I will never get over it! I can't IMAGINE her pain! Geez, I hope he gets his due!
May your baby rest in heaven in peace and be your guardian angel 24/7 and May his memories always put a smile on your face 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🌻🌞
The smiles of those precious babies just so innocent..May they rest in peace😢
😞
omg rights?!?! he lost all rights when he massacred 3 children.. unbelievable 😢
Facts!
apparently not
Exactly my thoughts.. Well said..
The fact that he could murder three children in such a brutal fashion and be out and about is beyond me. Truly sickening. He should never have a moments peace
I agree with Elsie. If it's twenty years for a life, and he took three lives, they shouldn't even consider letting him out after 40 years. 60 MINIMUM. Although, imo, he deserves extra time for ruining Elsie's life too.
Yes, he pretty much took her life too when he did these appalling things
Right he took everything from her. I can imagine what she has gone thru loosing all 3 of ur babies brutality.
So, you devalue the life of a victim to just 20 years. Interesting perspective. In my view, taking a life means forfeiting your’s.
Unfortunately, the UK, as with most of Europe and Australia, began their moral decline years ago with abolishment of the death penalty. This sends a clear, tacit message that the life of the murderer is worth more than the life or lives of victims. Parole and “early release for good behavior” (that’s a funny one) only again further diminish the life taken from the victim(s).
@@lisadianne5858and he should be trialed for that too no?
@@fasteddie4107the reason life os not life is bcoz its inhumane for the prisonet to not have the slightest hope for ever getting out.but the worse part is that if a relative kills the killer they go in jail for the same ammount of time.that i never understood
Can't believe he wasn't given a full life sentance....truly mind boggling.
Al Europe justice system is joke look at Norway that guy gunned down students got only 15 years
He killed 14 i think
UK courts
That’s the uk for you. There is no such thing as life in prison
kill 3 kids = Death Penalty
nothing else is fair.
Yes.
Elsie lost just about everything one cherishes in life to the whims of a self-indulgent sponge & they couldn’t keep her up-to-date on his status? Come on, UK officials ffs
Worcester, Massachusetts
@@SSNESS England
@@SSNESS Don't be silly.
50 years ago to the date almost... half a century
The anonymity thing .. people need to know to protect their children.
He has not got anonymity.
Oh my. Poor Elsie. This is heartbreaking.
Losing one child is devastating, but losing three? And in such a brutal manner?
And then her husband left her when she needed him most😔
@@kellieaster547 Yes, her suffering was and is, immense.
As a 13 year old girl my mother let her boyfriend move in . Soon after he moved in , when she was grocery shopping he propositioned me . I went in my bedroom and stayed there for 7 years except for school .
@Blackthorn Sloe, I'm so sorry that happened to you.
Sorry to hear that 😞
That's horrible, I'm so sorry you went through that. I hope you're safe now
I was also a very many years shut in my room child, because my "mother" preferred to move in scumbags, so I understand and fully sympathise. I severed all contact with her, and still have many emotional & anxiety issues from it all decades later
Hey Sloe...that's diabolical!,why didnt u tell someone??? Anyone!!?
I don’t know how you go on after 3 of your children have been murdered. 😢
my heart hurts just thinking of the pain for the parents.. just horrific and beyond belief...
One fact missed out in the narrative....
👉David worked as a steward in the mess hall. He saw his name written in a Chief Petty Officer’s Book. He thought this indicated a change of job. In a pattern that would repeat itself with fatal consequences, he stopped thinking, and started drinking.🥴 Others noted that when he turned up for his watch, he was agitated, and drunk. In a moment of madness, he did something that marked the beginning of the end of his short-lived naval career.🥶
Frankly I don't think that someone who has committed such gruesome horrific crimes should ever be released in a society...🤔
I cannot imagine her pain. I was born in 1973. It's been 50 years. So sad
Damn, I’m sorry but the British legal system is complete shite. Killed 3 babies in horrific ways and he’s out? What the actual hell? What about the kids’ right to life?
Right, like minimum 20 years? What the actual fuck is that. For someone who brutally murders 3 children for no reason I would think you would at least get 1 life sentence without parole
I hate to say it but it sounds a lot like what is going on here in America. The criminals have more rights than the victims & their loved ones. We need to go back to the olden times where if you were sentenced to life, you didn't leave prison until you were dead...if you were sentenced to death, you were taken out and either hung or faced the firing squad. There is no fear anymore for those who commit crimes because they know THEY have the right to anything they want. I can't imagine how Elsie went on after the death of her children and the dissolution of her marriage. I know if that had happened to me, I would've gone bat shit crazy.
@@marciam6224 agree but blame it on the people who scream human rights for prisoners
@@marciam6224 The UK abolished the death penalty in 1998 but hadn’t imposed a death sentence since 1964. At least some US states still have the death sentence. What I hate about our justice system is plea bargaining! I say eye for eye in murder cases when DNA leaves no doubt! That’s the only way we’re going to save tax dollars and maybe make our communities safer. Our justice system is like the game show “Let’s Make A Deal.”
I believe anyone who deliberately takes a life should forfeit their own.
Unfortunately he was released from Prison ....Quote...In December 2018, following a parole hearing, the report said he had "changed considerably" over the last 45 years and legally cleared him for release on parole. That should never have happened. Unfortunately the UK Government like Canada would rather have killers out earning monies so they can pay taxes rather than keep Citizens paying for their stay in Prison. I am willing to pay higher taxes to keep this type of person in Prison until they take their last breath. Life to me means life until they take their last breath.
Totally agree with you!
@@faykouri1162 Makes me glad I live in the U.S.! I wonder what our friends across the pond think about some of our States still having the death penalty. If you're a U.K. person, I'd love to know your thoughts. Take care, love.
Monsters like him deserve the death penalty. They don’t deserve life.
@@RandomChristianMusings I’m an Aussie it would be good if we had the death penalty here there’s a few cases here where the perpetrators really deserved nothing but death.
It's so interesting to learn about the criminal justice systems of each country. I can see how different our privatized system in that there is no rush to get them out paying taxes again. In fact they usually cant get a job once out. Or they stay locked up for nonviolent crimes. But I can also see the negative of the reverse you have pointed out here. I wonder where the correct answer lies.
He killed three babies in cold blood. He ruined a family. He ruined a marriage. He devastated everyone who hears of this crime. HUMAN rights?! For whom. A “person” who does this is not human, and what about the rights of these children, their parents, and society to a fear free society?
He has no rights He gave those out the minute he killed those children
I totally agree!!! Absolutely disgusting! This has me so UPSET!
Revolting. He has ZERO RIGHTS unless he'd like to choose which knife he's castrated with before being shot!!! 🤬🤬🤬
In Russian he don’t have no rights they don’t play there
Keep voting though...for the same ppl in different bodies
He forfeited his human rights when he took the lives of those children... period...
Absolutely 💯
Unfortunately not true . He will pay for his consequences but he still has rights. Its not North Korea
I worked with children fighting life threatening illnesses, sad to say around 92% of marriages end with the death of a child. It is a heart breaking
As my marriage did also, some times the hurt is so big that you can't even keep yourself going let alone anyone else as well no matter how much you loved them, no blame on either side, it is just what it is.
@@karenwelsh1705 No Blame ever, that is a life altering time not sure anyone ever completely recovers from. You move forward a different way in life. Much Love and hugs.
I wish they'd change the term 'life imprisonment.' Nowadays with a human life expectancy of 80years, 20 years is nothing! It's the victims relatives who actually serve the life tariff!
when criminals hav more rights than the victims..
I know, it's ridiculous
Unfortunately, the UK, as with most of Europe and Australia, began their moral decline years ago with abolishment of the death penalty. This sends a clear, tacit message that the life of the murderer is worth more than the life or lives of victims. Parole and “early release for good behavior” (that’s a funny one) only again further diminish the life taken from the victim(s).
@@fasteddie4107 So there were no murders when the UK had the death penalty? And no murders in the states of America that still has the death penalty? The death penalty is and never was a deterrent for anyone. Plus 20 years is the minimum he had to spend in jail, he spent much longer than that inside.
@@janetpendlebury6808 I can only hope you’re not a simpleton, but deterrence is not and never the point. Justice is the point. Say a pedophile rapes and murders a child. What is the just punishment? Say that the same man has now been found to have raped and murdered 10 children. What now is the just punishment in your way of thinking?
This killer should stay in prison until his death, don't you think?
No. I think he should have been put to death. Whomever let him out needs a psychiatric assessment.
That's how I think too
Why is it that the thinking of prison authorities and governments generally, appear to be at odds with the views of their citizens. Even after a heinous crime, there's seldom or ever any reaction from government.
@@pipperoooo EXACTLY
No the only justice for his crime is the DEATH sentence.
I cant even begin to imagine arriving home to hear that your three children have been murdered. Those poor parents, what a nightmare.
😳 OHMYGOD!!! Did he consider the rights of those children he butchered? As far as I am concerned he gave up all of his rights when he decided to do that horrible thing. He got 20 years for killing three children, which in itself is unbelievable, but then he has a right to anonymity?! I don’t know what kind of a justice system they have in that country but I believe he deserves every horrible thing that happens to him and I hope he lives a long, long time.
This man was a time bomb and we have no reason to believe anything has changed. I've said it before, but we do not value the lives of children. If he'd murdered three adults in such horrible ways, I think the sentence might have been different.
This!!! Hes a highly dangerous person. Can sit quiet and idle for yrs then do something insane randomly then back to well behaved. No signs anything could happen, just a totally random ticking time bomb. He should never be considered to rejoin society ever. Can't be trusted whatsoever. Life in jail or dp should be the only options for ppl this covert
It feels cruel to ask this mother to describe what happened to the children. I hope she's found peace.
She would not have agreed to take part in the tv series if she did not want to talk about it.
My heart goes out to mum 🥺 RIP the baby angels ❤
Putting there remains on the railing is so sick wtf
Thank you for telling the story of the Ralph children's horrific murders and giving them (and their surviving family and friends) the dignity,respect,and compassion they deserve. As an American viewer of this program,it's mind boggling that a sadistic child killer would be given an anonymity order protecting HIM from harm either via prison justice or public exposure of his convictions. The American justice system is notorious at times for giving more concern and protections to savage killers than to the victims and it's disheartening to see that trait present in other nations' justice systems too. If McGreevy had committed those savage murders in the US,
he'd be on death row or doing life without parole while living in fear of prison justice. His actions landed him in prison where he belongs and he doesn't deserve sympathy or protection from either fellow inmates or from public scrutiny. I've argued repeatedly that if an American child killer or pedo somehow gets a shot at parole,then that criminal should live in the home of the parole board members since they' believe the criminal to be reformed. How many board members would actually grant parole to a sadistic killer if that killer had to live in their homes with their vulnerable family members? McGreevy killed 3 young kids,sadistically mutilated their bodies,
destroyed the Ralph's marriage and their mental and physical health,and has never expressed remorse for his actions so he can rot in prison where he belongs. If he faces prison justice while serving his sentence and experiences slivers of the terror and pain he inflicted upon those innocent kids,he's earned every minute of those encounters.
You are so right with every word you have written. This man should be put on death row for sure or life in prison getting treated just as bad as he did to this family and community. I have a problem with the laws in the US that let pedophiles out on parole. They cannot be reformed. Once a person has committed any offense against a child I say lock them up and throw away the keys
As Americans, yeah, we fuck up A LOT, but we don't wipe the records of murderers or child abuse (yeah I know we still got a long ways to go as we keep letting child predators back into society but at least when those predators are released you can still pull up their records. I couldn't imagine not even be able to pull up somebody's criminal history)
sex offenders in US given certain protections, they must register but ppl/neighbors cant put up posters about where he lives or what he has done. In my hmble opinion, he never should've been allowed out
Brilliant! Perfect put them w/those who granted parole.
Hats off to your comment and so we'll said!
On exactly the same date Friday 13th April 1973 late evening there was also an horrific child murder commited in Australia. Deidre Kennedy 17 months old was abducted abused and killed then thrown onto a roof but her murderer was much harder to find and prosecution complex..
Monsters like David McGreavy have always existed eveywhere but thankfully they're rare.
Did the person who committed that crime get released? I’m an Aussie btw I only recently heard this story.
@@The_Crusty_Old_Hag_Next_Door I'm not sure. I vaguely recall the investigation and court cases were a shamozle. I think there was a book written about the case.
Deidre’s killer was never brought to justice.
@@annetteincairns3528 they’ve got enough technology to solve this it needs to be reopened asap. Yeah the bloke in the 60 minutes interview is the main suspect he’s as shifty as all puck shouldn’t have been let out to begin with. I also reckon it’s someone close to the family who knew them maybe the uncle maybe should be bashed anyway sounds Like a sicko
@@annetteincairns3528 that’s horrible to hear. I don’t know that story yet, but I’m gonna look it up right now.
When you take another human being's life in Cold blood you're privacy should not even be a thing anymore.
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You should lose all rights - if you kill, you're banished from society forever.
I always wondered why evil people likes these feel like they have a right to live their lives after they took other's lives! It just isn't right !
u should be done the same way
the public has a right to know abt this potential threat.. to giv anonymity is insane..
@@jayceew.rabbit9358 Because people like these killers simply don't care about others.
It’s amazing how many murderers fight for the right to live. Then there’s this guy who confessed to the murders of 3 children, and thinks he should be allowed to live a life of anonymity. Absolutely disgusting!
Parents, please don't let anyone you *don't know* move into your house.
He wasn't a stranger....he was "a friend." Most child abuse comes from people you trust...Family and friends. Stranger danger isn't as terrifying as the danger that comes from blindly trusting people you believe are "safe".
Do you ever know anyone? Look at all the parents killing their children, spouse killing their mates. Humans are capable of anything. Strangers or family.
He was a good friend of of the father's not a stranger. He had lived with them for over a year Plus most child murders are done by a family member.
@@janetpendlebury6808 Growing up, we were always told not to allow young men or boys to babysit for any reason, and I think that's a good general rule. Of course, there can be cruel, evil women as well, but it's a good start not to allow young men to be alone with your children in the first place.
20 years?? What the hell kind of punishment is that??
That's just disgusting
Do you not listen? He did not get 20 years, he got life, with 20 years non parole. He served 46 years, and is now in his mid 70's.
He’s walking around in public?! He’s a free man? 🤬🤬🤬 England should be ashamed of themselves
How rich that all the human rights he demands are exactly what he took from those babies. He should never be free & I can only hope he gets what he deserves from the community he lives among.
My thoughts exactly!
Exactly. And anything that happens to him, he brought on himself.
He shouldn’t be alive, show him the mercy he showed those children. NONE
Why didn't anyone get rid of him inside
I CANNOT BELIEVE HE IS FREE!!! 😮😮😮😮😮
Can't even leave my kids to relatives honestly better being paranoid than feeling sorry in the end
Yes I agree with the psychologist. He has not revealed his triggers or intentions therefore he needs to be remained in the custody of the state because of intent to lie and deceive people in general. A nasty child killer .
He should have been sent to the death penalty IMMEDIATELY 🤬💔
I'm surprised that no one brought up jealousy as a possible motive. He was either jealous of the parents, children or both. Things in his life weren't going the way he wanted and he took his frustration out on the family.
Agree, I believe is a factor in some way in many crimes that seem incomprehensible for it being unprovoced.
He had a life full of failures. He probably was not to keen with others who had a better life. He probably killed the kids because they had a mom and dad who loved them and were a family. Something he never had.
Maybe but why the hellwould u leave ur kids with a guy u just took from a bar?! And everyone knew he was not ok when drinking
Yeah, I agree. I was thinking this was an envy-fueled rage killing
@@Plaksa2004 He was not a guy they just met in a pub, he was a friend of the fathers, and had lived with them for over a year.
This poor mother😢😢I don't even want to imagine her pain. I wouldn't make it, except for maby revenge, and that wouldn't last me long.
I think the statement,”seemingly loved the children “ is key here. It can be very easy to behave like everyone else, especially when you are desperate for a place to live. He’s not going to be rude or harsh or refuse to help when he has no where else to go. I feel like there’s the possibility that he acted like he thought he should but was actually resentful that he was in the position he was in after losing his career, fiancée and home. He finally let his anger take over when he was in the position to be able to act without the fear of being attacked or stopped. I am not convinced it was anything other then his drunken anger fueled by his feelings of entitlement and having lost everything. Once the baby started to cry for her bottle he knew that she wasn’t going to listen and be quiet and he ran with it making it the excuse he needed to take out his anger. He knew that it was something that he would eventually allow to happen just like when a spouse eggs their partner on just to argue and fight because they are angry about something completely unrelated and need their spouse to give them a reason to be angry and that can be accomplished very easily with children. It’s like hitting a child hard and becoming enraged when they cry . To be clear I am in no way justifying this scumbags actions, rather trying to explain a theory based on my own personal experience of childhood abuse. My mother would get stressed about things that as a child I had very little knowledge of and she would become impatient with me and tell me to hurry up and get dressed or brush my teeth and then become so frustrated that she squished the tube of toothpaste onto the front of my newly washed and ironed Sunday shirt or dress and then flip out and beat me as though I did it and I had been the one that was too slow or lazy and made us late. It was terrifying but because she became so irrational as though possessed, I eventually learned to show no emotion and remain quiet no matter what. I know now that she was fighting a battle with herself and would set me up because she needed me to give her a reason to lash out so she could not only express her anger and frustration through violence but also feel like I deserved it. So I wonder if this POS was a walking, entitled, self absorbed, wannabe ticking time bomb to a much higher degree than my mother?
Plus having a pathological reaction to alcohol perhaps, and in and out of the fluctuating brain syndrome that alcoholics could be said to suffer, looking normal but becoming incompetent at supporting themselves, and where sex and violence, love and anger, get strangely confused. Alienated from self-actualisation, a mystery to themselves, horribly lonely, and ironically believing that alcohol is their only friend.
Years ago, it was very common to have just anybody watch your children. Rules weren’t set. It was nearly like saying, “Keep an eye out for my dog while I’m gone.” I recall my aunt asking who was looking after her 2 yo because she hadn’t seen her all day. I’m 70, and grew up in a rural area, but we were extremely aware of personalities. Today. It’s harder.
If you look at history, it's never been "safe" to just leave your kids with anyone. My mom always tells me about how you can't do that now....and then I bring up all of the VERY OLD cases of gross child abuse and murder. It's always existed.... people were just less aware. I also grew up in a rural area. That certainly didn't make people trustworthy. I can tell you many stories...OLD stories of "trusted people," that were only exposed for the monsters they were, decades later.
The sad part is that its not even close to as common as being murdered by a close family member.
OMG no do not release this monster he didn't just murder 3 innocent children he then put them on display for the resident's of that street to see...and it doesn't matter why he did this what matter's is he did...I feel so sad for their Mum not only losing her babies but her marriage as well (sadly this happens a lot when children are murdered)...I can understand her need for anti depression medication and it's just sad that her husband couldn't support her during that time 😢 RIP to those beautiful children and to MacGreevy I hope he rots in prison (this is a case that should've had the death penalty)
No the residents of the street could not see them, they were in the back garden and it was night time.
Yes. Let's give the guilty all the protection and rights their victims and the families never get. 🙄
Disgusting isn’t it!
Exactly evil👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼🤮
Sounds like my work place
@@silvana8246 lol oh no, I feel your pain. I was in a work environment like that years ago
So very sad. Blessings to the parents. I lost one child that almost destroyed me and my remaining children...an emptiness resides...to lose 3 children? 😢🎉
Broken hearted
RIP to the three little souls lost 🙏🙏🙏
This scumbag leech had never been responsible & took his anger out on that poor baby, then realized he's now in trouble so probably thought if he's going down for a crime his stunted mind decided he may as well kill them all. Disgusting, vile, demon. His rights should've been rescinded upon the acts he committed. RIP babies. My deepest sympathy for the parents. Greetings friends from U.S.
I can’t imagine leaving for work and not knowing you’ll never see your child again, let alone three. My heart breaks for this strong woman😭
McGreevy doesn’t deserve anything good. He may have changed, but he is the one responsible for stealing the lives of three children, who will never live their lives. He needs to pay for those three lives, and for the other lives he’s ruined. We all have consequences for our past decisions. He should be no different.
He is a fake He has not changed Psychopaths can not change!
He should never be released!
My heart goes out to the parents. Especially, the mother who is still grieving for her precious children. May God give you strength! 😢❤
Yes the “god is good”.
Is that the right one? Or maybe it was the “gods will” those three babies died? Perhaps to bring the killer back to the god? Or test the mothers love of the god?
Oh I remember now, “thoughts and prayers” is the way to go with senseless death of innocents. That god, what a useless POS!
That anyone in society would even think that putting this sorry excuse for a human back into the world is an egregious error in humanity. Then to bend over backward to give him anonymity is disgraceful. What have we become to think this is acceptable.
I grew up in this area in the 1970’s near Worcester , and I must admit I’ve never heard of these murders , absolutely horrific
I wanna study the brain and how ppl like this tick it's so interesting to me the mind is like how we are all wired and some of us just wired wrong
It’s definitely interesting
I totally agree, hoooow does this Happen, HOW??😢
2 bricks short a load
Mainly happens because a person identifies his joy with others suffering. Also, if a person has no control over his life and wants outmost control over another person.
It is very really a brain problem although sometimes that happens.
It is a mind problem most of the time. Lack of compassion and empathy. Making choices that are detrimental to other beings, for their own self gratification, and self empowerment.
It happens because of a perfect storm of things. Genetics, personality, and experiences. The person has to be born with a certain inclination, then how they perceive their experiences. Which is how two identical twins who grew up in the same home with the same experiences, can have one become a successful adult and father, and the other can become a serial killer. They have the same genetics and experiences, but their perception of those experiences differ drastically. One can look at all of his experiences and say “I’ve learned so much from them.” and the other can say “look at this crappy hand I’ve been dealt. I deserve better, and those people don’t deserve anything!” and justify to themselves the reason they kill. It has to be a perfect storm of things. Are people born evil? Ehhh. They can be born with an inclination towards evil, but ultimately their personality and experiences are what cause them to be or do evil.
His right to "family life"... The irony.
No way in hell I would let anyone live with me and my family, not even family.
but you're already living with your family
My anxiety agrees with you. But if not for my sister letting me live with her I probably wouldn't be here right now.
I have no sympathy for this pos. He deserves everything that is dished out to him. This is why criminals get off so easy, because people have "pity" on them. He damn sure didn't have any pity on those poor children nor did he care how the parents would feel or the fact that they would have to live the rest of their lives with this horror that happened to their children. He does NOT deserve a moment of peace while he is still breathing! STOP CODDLING MURDERS!!!!
He should have gotten 20 years for each child.
How about life x3 or the DP because we can't kill him three times?
If their was true justice. He would have died before meeting those children and they would still be alive.
He kills 3 kids and yet have the balls to act self entitled.
He not only took the innocent lives of three children but he destroyed the parents of the children! Not to mention the community!
Those poor parents, I can't even begin to imagine their anquish.
The life long pain they must feel.
This world is full of unimaginable evil so called humans.
Small….very small mercy that Mum and Dad didn’t see or witness their babies in this state. What a truly horrific and inhumane monster this thing (I’ll not call him a ‘man’) is.
My heart goes out to whoever found the babies and the poor police who had to deal with the aftermath.
Parents, please don’t ever let a non-biological person, especially a man, move into your home with your children. The risk is far too high. Children living in a home with a non-biological male are something like 40x more likely to be abused. It’s not worth it. And if the person needing a place to live is really a friend, they either wouldn’t ask you to do that, or they’d understand if you told them they couldn’t. Of course not every person is a bad person. But the risk is just too high. It’s not worth it.
Prison system is a complete joke
"especially a man". Vey sexist comment. There are numerous examples of females who have done the same crime.
So true, I see a lot of true crime content where the unrelated man abuses the children that are not his. Why women pursue male relationships when they have children is beyond me.
Even biological persons. My father and mother had my uncle (my father's brother) live with us for a few months and it was in this time that he sexually abused me at night when my mom and dad was asleep. I was 5.
Please note beforehand that I don't condone what McGreevy did. This said, I will now tell outright that I would NEVER pay money for accommodation, to share it with one or more children not even my own. It wasn't thought through!
What? He got out? He deserved life!
He earned his reputation, why shouldn't people have a right to know he's capable of ending their children without remorse? Why should someone get out of jail when they haven't even felt the weight of what they've done? Some people would end themselves when they feel the weight, others will never really care. Why would they let someone like this out who has done something so heinous? Where are their heads? Are they pro psychopathic behavior?
Lord, please bless this mama.. this is something she'd carried around for 50 yrs... Loosing one child is torment but I can't imagine loosing 3 at one time.. and now that demon is out and about... I pray for comfort for this sweet lady..
Anyone who can take a child's life, or bring harm to a child in anyway as a matter of fact should be put on display for everyone to see. Once a horrific act has been perpetrated then immediately the expectation for privacy should be thrown out!!! How dare any perpetrator think they should be allowed the right to slither away from the public eye!!!
Omg! Not only does this SICK F want his privacy but he didn't even allow that to the child 😢🥺😭😭😭😭 He impaled them and placed them outside on the rails for the world to see. This man has no right to privacy at all. This is so sad im in tears I can't even imagine 😢 😭 I'm so sorry to the parents. May the Lord God Almighty bring his angels to wrap their wings around the parents to protect and comfort them for the rest of their lives. 🙏 Amen
I can't believe they unleashed this sick murderer, on to the public
What's the genius (who had anything to do w/him getting out), going to say, if he hurts, tortures, names, kills, someone else🤔
All those rights that he was asking, those were the rights of those kids that he greedily stole from them. That evil man should be sentenced threefold to a crime he committed with no parole… He deserved to be jailed in hell! 😡
A minimum of 20 yrs?!!!
Are you (F ing) kidding me!
"So appalling, so highs risk of doing it again " (ya think?) , 20 yrs, wtf!
That's sO F wd up and insulting too...
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Too bad for him! He gave up all his rights when he took the right to life of those babies!! What’s soo sad is the rights of murder’s have become more important than the rights of victims. That’s a damn fact!!!!
I'm a bad influence on everyone in my life, but still I have never laid a hand on a kid.
Since you’re aware that you are a bad influence, don’t you think you should do something to fix it?
I'm glad, j.d. but/and I bet you have benefited someone around you more than you know.
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How many rights were violated of the children and their parents? I really belive that the perp should lose these rights, too.
20 years!!???? Np, I'll handle it from there
Anonymity!!???, oh hellllll no
I’d be waiting for his release, I guarantee he wouldn’t kill again!
@@tracyshaffer4510 he was released in 2018 learn to google
Do you not listen? he did not get 20 years he got life, and served 46 years, he is now in his mid 70's and has to wear an electronic GPS device,
The nerve of him to even think that he deserves privacy after what he did to those babies. He was a child-killer then and he will always be a child killer. 20 years!!!he should be in jail forever and even that is too good for such a devilish person.
The UK cares more about the criminal’s “rights” than the rights of the victims, it’s just despicable. 20 years? Unbelievable!!!
Also, I would never trust a man as a babysitter that wanted to do that as a full time job as an adult. I have never met one that I didn’t think was a total weirdo.
Why not get your facts straight, he did not get 20 years, he got life, and served 46 years. I agree he should still be inside, but he is now in his mid 70's. And he did not want to do babysitting as a job, he had jobs but couldn't keep them. The mother looked after the children during the day, she worked at night in the pub. The father looked after them in the evenings and night, just left them for an hour to go and pick his wife up from the pub.
No matter what excuses are given, he brooded evil thoughts in his heart , heaven knows what went on in his brain
I want to know why England doesn't Have the death penalty. If anyone deserves to be beheaded it's this guy. Smh
they used to, but it was by hanging... they abolished it not long after the war i think
I am glad Britian doesnt have the death penalty because poor people, those with mental illness and anyone who isn't white are disproportionately executed. If you are wealthy and white you are far more likely not to recieve the death penalty for your crimes.
Also, nothing in life is 100% certain. It's been proven that some of the people executed in the US were in fact innocent.
You can't wash blood with blood, to quote my late father in law who was the equivalent of a General in NATO.
I think maybe we underestimate the damage executing someone does to the lives of those who participate. I believe they are paid a very small amount and that people who really need the money(poor people) usually participate. I do not think human beings were made to kill defenceless people regardless of what they have done. I remember there was a warden from America who had participated in many executions over many years and he was pro the death penalty yet one day he had a complete mental breakdown. Normal human beings are not meant to kill other human beings especially in the absence of conflict or a direct threat. I believe it damages us.
Though i am glad Britian doesn't have the death penalty this is the kind if crime I would expect warrants it. Still, when i read about the lives ofdeath row inmates they haven't necessarily committed the most violent or gruesom crimes. This surprised me.
I also agree that life should mean life. It is unfair to the victims families to release this kind of person. People do change and i believe in redemption but that is also what makes prison a punishment. You have to live with what you have done and know that you will never ever leave your prison or get to make choices other humans get. Losing one's freedom is a terrifying idea to me. I do understand (especially in this case) why it comes to mind though.
@@natashagournay4866exactly. Thank you.
And I'm glad i live in the US. Sometimes people cannot be helped. It's an ugly fact.
Anonymity is BS, those children had rights, the parents have rights, but he violated those rights when he murdered those children and shattered the parents lives. He can do his time, and pay the price, but the parents and the community will pay the rest of their lives, where is the justice? I know I'm American but 20 years for 3 lives to me is also BS, a life for a life, he should never be free again, put him in with Robert maudsely, he will dole out some jail justice.
20 YEARS? ARE YOU KIDDING? JUST 20 YEARS, WOW.
No, do you not understand the legal system, he got life with 20 years non parole. He served 46 years. He is now in his mid 70's.
I bet that photo is the most cherished picture of her and her children. So heartbreaking
I waitress and this girl that worked there meet a man and right away she was leaving this man with her 4 year old daughter. I told her you don't leave a child with a man you barely even know. She kept saying he is so good with my daughter he always wants to watch her. I told her what young 22 year old man just wants to watch a 4 year old girl all the time. She didn't lesson to me and this little girl was being molested by him.
Apparently authorities still don't know his motive for killing three young children, mutilating their bodies and displaying them on a fence. A "drunken rage" doesn't explain all that. And if they don't know his true motive, they can't be certain he won't harm more people. He shouldn't ever have been released. And that's just the public safety aspect. He also deserves to be punished for his horrible crimes, for the lives he took, for the unimaginable anguish he caused Elsie and the children's father.
They want him released after killing three children? Something is seriously wrong with the law Let us protect the killers and not the victims ....He is exactly the same today as he was then A psychopath never changes There is NO help for him Ever
Has street justice been served on him yet
The fact that he deprived the children of everything he claims is his right, he shouldn’t have any rights.
In December 2018, following a parole hearing, the report said he had "changed considerably" over the last 45 years and legally cleared him for release on parole.
If he truly changed he'd not ask to be a torment to that poor mother by being released.
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He should have gotten life in prison, those were the only human rights left for him. He himself forfeit his full package of humanity, hence...
Imagine being the lawyer who defends this guy...
Yep, this is how socio/psychopaths really, really think. They just don't care about your outrage or rights or pain or hypocrisy- you can't shame them into feeling. You're just standing in the way of what they want, or blocking an exit with your annoying objections. Time is pretty meaningless, other people are one dimensional figments, it's all about right now and what they want, and that. is. all.