Show Notes: [02:00] Yeonmi's story [04:30] Information Control [06:00] Eating in North Korea [08:00] Spring; the season of death when people can't make it to the summer for food. [10:30] Average wage in North Korea and living off of grasshoppers [13:00] Class distinctions in North Korea [15:00] Group guilts [18:00] What Yeonmi’s parents did to survive. [21:00] When her father started to trade and how she links trade with freedom [24:30] How Yeonmi’s mother was almost thrown in a prison camp because of her uncle [29:00] Being alone as a kid in North Korea typical day and week (one of the best clips [33:00] What she was eating and where she was getting her food. [36:00] Constantly thinking about food [41:30] The North Korean prison camp experience [44:00] Her dad getting out of the concentration camp [45:00] What happened to her father when he came back from prison [48:00] China lights from North Korea [49:30] Trafficking into china [50:30] Her time as a sex slave in China [56:30] Eating enough food to get full for the first time [58:00] Reuniting with her father and the slave owner [01:01:30] Selling her mother for food [01:03:30] Sex chat rooms [01:05:00] Freedom in South Korea through Christianity [01:06:30] Christian missionary [01:11:30] Traveling to Mongolia [01:14:30] The holding camp in Mongolia [01:19:00] Being identified as refugees in South Korea [01:20:00] When she realized what North Korea was. [01:21:00] Why she thought George Orwell's book is relevant to the time she spent in North Korea. [01:23:30] When Yeon Mi started to speak out. [01:27:30] What drove her from the university. [01:34:00] Managing to get into a university in South Korea [01:35:30] Becoming the North Korean Paris Hilton and studying criminal justice. [01:39:00] Discovering her sister [01:40:00] Ending up at Columbia University [01:44:00] Her time at Columbia University [01:57:30] What's next for Yeon Mi?
Thank you, Dr. Peterson for caring about the North Korean people and helping me to free my country from a dictator. Thank you everyone for your kind support and heartfelt words ♥️
I think we should not compare ourselves to other’s tragedies. But instead, what I think we need is a broader perspective to know what we are truly capable of.
@@TheVineOfChristLives I agree and her biography certainly wouldn't be useful reference for me in that regard anyway, as I fortunately can't relate to it. Still, taking a glimpse down this dystopian abyss, allows me to view my own problems from a different perspective. I'm grateful for that.
@@martinm6368 her story is definitely inspiring of gratitude, but to my mind, there’s something far greater we need to be more than just grateful from her account. If it was anything beyond gratefulness, And don’t get me wrong, I think being grateful is good too Martin. But Perhaps her story really shows we need to champion our own change to overcome the kinds of evil that still exists in the world today? Perhaps?
@@TheVineOfChristLives Just remember every time you hear the Marxist tripe about racism, Islam, critical race theory, social justice, Chinese communism, blm…..that their goal is to bring you to a place where you are eating rats and starving and so are your children. Don’t ever think for a second that this isn’t the goal of the left. It is what they did in Russia, in China, in Ukraine, Cambodia, Vietnam, Yugoslavia and North Korea.
We are slaves. Though not to such a degree of severity, we still slave under a cookie cutter means to education, work, life and family. All of it needs to have the light shined on it. Given the current state of government dependency for people to make ends meet, how banks own nearly everything. You believing your house or car is yours is just an idea, not truth. It can all be taken at any moment.
I'm cuban, every people that lived in a dictatorship can see it clearly where this country is going, we need to stop it, you all must care about politics. Is the only way. Be and activists, even in a soft form.
@@Helicopterpilot16 To be fair, this is a pretty huge exaggeration. Taking out massive loans and credit card debt and then not being able to pay for it is very different from living in a totalitarian regime.
I bow before the reaction of Jordan when he was hearing her story. Many-many people took interview from Yeonmi and nobody shed a tear, and Jordan was the only one who felt her so well that he really started crying. That is the best thing. He is the greatest human being, the example of what we all should be...
People love to mock Jordan for becoming emotional somewhat frequently when he’s doing interviews. But honestly I think he’s just highly empathetic and really feels these people’s pain. He’s seen the broken people coming to his events and telling him how beaten down they are. How could you not become emotional when you’ve seen so many people fight through so much. Yeonmis appearance on Flagrant was a little cringe worthy because she was sitting there talking about some of these horrific things and the guys were sitting there cracking jokes every 5 seconds and talking about her eating rats non stop. This is a million times better interview
@@videogra5645 Ethan Klein of H3h3 and Hassan Piker who’s also on that show sometimes. A lot of super far left people just absolutely hate Jordan with a passion because he thinks that the transgender issue has gone too far in the US and Canada. So instead of respectfully disagreeing with him they mock him for his mental health issues and attack his daughter on her intellect and appearance. They’re some of the most vicious people I’ve seen
That has always been the case for decades. I've listened to lectures and read many instances of Western academics and professors praising the Cultural Revolution and "debunking" Chinese survivor and escapee accounts of the brutality of Maoist China as exaggeration because they claim that they were also there (which is true). Many Western academics went to China during the Cultural Revolution but unlike the ordinary citizen these people were treated as guests by the communists so they get to experience the pageantry and parades and were not shown the reality. This is no different from those Potemkin Villages shown to Western journalists who visited the USSR where the government created villages with prisoners were supposed to live happily and prosperously so these journalists can report back to the West that the anti-communist activists were just crazy paranoid right-wing lunatics and communism wasn't so bad. I apologize for this long reply.
@@MGSVxBreakpoint I was screaming at the screen! I could feel what she was going to say and damn!, Yep, she said it. Escape North Korea/China/Mongolia slave trade to be muzzled upon entering an American school of higher learning. Just wow!
We are being told what to say, what to think, what not to listen to or watch. Indoctrinated in other words, by people who hate us. It could keep moving along that spectrum, or it could be stopped. I must admit I’m fascinated.
They don’t give a shit about us. To those snobs we are not cultured and sophisticated enough to understand their discussion. Our opposing point of view is a sign of lack of cultivation.
She was born in 1993. 5 years younger than me. So the realization that while I was playing Nintendo, listening to CDS, dating, driving, partying with friends, getting married, having kids, having BBQs w family, she had been enduring all of this.
@@juliagulia5823 Wow, that sounds like such a selfish comment. Nothing she or Jbird has experienced in life means anything unless is for our benefit. I would like to think Yeonmi outside of human flaws is a survivor who would never again progress through life using another persons suffering. To me we all benefit from that greater then the latest product APPLE pushed.
@@richardmcmechan7831 I was on highschool from '03 to '07. We read it. We read A Brave New World by Huxley too. Huxley seems so prescient now. Soon Orwell may seem the same.
I just burst out laughing at your name. Here we are listening to a serious discussion about the fall of western civilization and Totalitarianism than I see the most dictator or dictators the God Damn Emperor of Man.
Why tf you dissing TV there some real jarring things on thier if actually took time to look. FOR every video like this They're Literally 1000 shitty ones.
That could be because this is so great, or it could be because TV is so horrible. James Corbett calls it dinosaur media because it's basically obsolete.
No words. I’m sobbing. This interview should be shown to every high school student and every college student in America. I’m a grown woman and this taught me more than anything has in the last 20 years. She is changing the world- she has changed mine. Thank you so much for doing this interview. I am so grateful. Beyond grateful.
@kyuhotae6410 Good point. I also reacted to some of her non-verbals and a number of other signals my trade has taught me to be wary of. I think there is much truth to her testimony but neither can I shake the reaction my intuition fired off a good number of times during this interview. Like she herself said: ""People are complex."" I would not write it ALL off. Yet, there is some healthy skepticism I will keep about multiple aspects of this testimony. PS There are NO mainstream denominations of Christianity that claim sins can be too great for forgiveness. Certainly not for prostitution. Jesus healed and forgave many prostitutes during his ministry and one of them became the first person to be told the good news of Jesus' resurrection by Jesus himself in the Garden of Gethsemane. According to ALL congregations of standard Biblical Christianity ALL sins are forgiven the sincerely repentant sinner. But to the unrepentant who actively CHOOSE to despise the sacrifice and redemption of God's Son...in other words the sin of rejecting God's forgiveness itself in condemning the mercy of Christ toward his repentant creation, there is no healing of sins and thus they remain. Even blaspheming God's name and blaspheming His Son is forgiven by God to the repentant sinner. But how can one who despises the Holy Spirit when it comes with forgiveness be forgiven? This is what Jesus taught. Perhaps there was a simple misunderstanding on her part and she mistakenly THOUGHT that the missionary said she could not be forgiven? Something does not add up about that part of her story.
The female professor that pulled her to one side over a debate about gender norms and whom ultimately concluded that she was still brainwashed by North Korean culture.... I have no words to describe the level of loathing I felt. I hope she wakes up to the horror of herself one day.
When people believe in what they talk about without self-reflection and no critical thinking, like puppets.That's how you tell when they are a product of serious and effective propaganda. These people who are going around telling others what the truth is. Reminds me more and more of the description of double-think from Orwells 1984. So much of that book has come true, you could almost think it is sitting somewhere in the higher echelons as some kind of handbook or guide.
That professor, and her colleagues with such views, have voluntarily "brainwashed" themselves to be the new, metaphorical North Korea. To paraphrase the old axiom; we have the ironies we deserve.
That's was my biggest take away, a warning that you are only a few steps away from totalitarian socialism when you higher education system is teaching intolerance. No wonder Peterson was upset.
The pain Dr Peterson felt when Yeonmi couldn't recall any thing that she found impressive when she was at prestigious Columbia University must be so painful that he couldn't hold back his tears. That's is something all educators should be contemplating about the works they are doing with their students.
yeah but it makes no sense. Its beyond that its insanely stupid. There are circumstances where that can be the case but most oppressed people know. North Korea and the Soviet Union are 2 examples of people not knowing.
When Jordan asked Yeonmi how she feels about the west, I expected her to sing praises of the freedom and technology. Instead, she started talking about how they're trying to associate group guilt to people whose ancestors were slave owners, and my heart just sank. It really gives you pause when you see a person from a literal tyranny find things in common with what she experienced and what she's seeing in society today.
She seemed to be saying she sees the seeds of dictatorship in the group guilt and censorship seeds that grow into the chains our children will be forced to wear. May enough people wake up and stand for freedom.
The way this young woman is able to accept life in all of its complexity and pain but without carrying anger and bitterness is fascinating. To see that no one is truly evil, and humanity is just incredibly complicated is a proof of immense emotional intelligence. Her story is the story of life itself, in all of its horror and the jewel that came out of it. She shines so bright on the world ❤✨
I kindly suggest to watch Phuong DPRK, a lone voice in the dark aspousing the truth about the Korean people's 75-year-long war against America. And read Abrams' book _Immovable Force._ - Adûnâi
Are you sure you have "zero" problems? Be realistic. Everyone has problems. That's life. I think a better way to go about this should be: We can be grateful and solve our problems at the same time ❤
Breakman Radio maybe perhaps in different parts of world but for freeing someone in China or NK, you can't donate to anyone or anything unfortunately except those who want to take down CCP
I understand from her perspective what she means by “if you know you’re oppressed, you are not oppressed”. But in every broader sense of the term that is categorically untrue. Thinking about POC in America is just one example
These are two of the most inspirational people I’ve seen in my life. Dr. Peterson’s compassion and bravery in the face of an oppressive government, Yeonmi’s strength and determination to live and seek a better life. If I could be half the person they are I would be proud
I totally agree agree. What an interview, that was one of the most incredibly touching and thought provoking interviews I’ve ever watched. Two powerful and brave people right there, unafraid of speaking the truth.
Top bad she literally lied about everything😂 she never experienced any of these tragedies, yeonmi park has been exposed by other defectors and her own mother🤦♂️
@@epyonsystem1869 it’s really sad that you would be such a bitter person that you would attack somebody who has already been through hell. What are you basing these accusations on may I ask?
For the exact reasons you say such a thing, is the real reason why it would be rejected. Mainly coz those who would not want you to know this would do what NK does
I had VERY mixed emotions watching this; from numbness to anger to extreme sympathy (i.e. weeping like fellow Canadian Jordan). Saying > "don't be silent" > you knocked it out of the ballpark GRANDSLAM. The ole Soviet regime under Stallin started that Korean War testing Truman...Truman dropping the bombs must have been a horrid decision to make w.r.t. Japan BUT, he saved ally lives vs. an Emperor that would push his own country men LIKE HITLER to suicidal bombing. Wherever cruelty and evil rises its devilish head we've a moral duty to snuff it out at all costs. I'd easily choose death then to live as this young lady did likely cuz I grew overly privileged.
Her grandmother knew what oppression was, but kept silence. Now her grandchildren doesn't know what the word even means. She speaking to me? Us? So, who's speaking up about government's reaction to COVID?
They are not rotting away. University is a choice. If you don’t like what they are teaching in a class you don’t go to it. It’s that simple. They are having debates in a classroom which are simply that debates and people are acting as if this is what society is doing as a whole.
I don't know you, but you used the phrase "ultimate warning sign" and I can't fit that into my map of reality. I feel like you are free to do whatever you want, and so are your neighbors, the police and everybody else. Limiting yourself by weighting the consequences of your actions is just basic intelligence, and the western world is relatively more free, as a whole and for most people, than North Korea indeed. In the future, there will probably be a fully realistic virtual world, where you can be as free as you want, and you can see the value of your freedom from the amount of your viewers, and the feedback that they provide. Before that, the damage from, say 300 million people feeling absolutely free to indulge whatever crosses their mind, seems unbearable. Sorry if this seems condescending, but it's just how I feel. Maybe I missed some kind of joke or a deeper point, so feel free to expand.
@@shakalpb1164 In Austria, the European country? That's something, but compare that to any North Korean university. Seriously, navigating newspeak is way better than their totalitarian system. Public executions of state enemies, that everybody nearby over the age of twelve has to observe? Nothing's perfect, but that's Hell. I got no love for the ultra-woke, but check out some off-the-radar social medias, bulletin boards and forums mostly, that don't moderate speech. Cesspools of childish obscenities, laden with prejudices, no matter what the subject. If that's freedom, I'll take vanilla.
@@maintaint3003 I wonder if you actually watched the video? Did you even listen to Yeomi? The fact that she comes from a country ruled by a murderous totalitarian/authoritarian regime and is now saying that here, in America, she is beginning to feel the same dread and fear as she did in N. Korea, allow me to repeat...IN AMERICA...that should scare the ever living fuck out of you. Because it means that she is seeing signs of the same totalitarian/authoritarian regime structure in OUR government. Or at least the beginnings of such a structure. Do you get it yet? The Cuba/Venezuela immigrants and refugees in Florida have been screaming the same warnings for a while now, "Hey guys! We've seen this shit before, we know where this leads! You don't want to do this!" It's why the Democrats lost so much of the Hispanic vote in Florida. You don't peddle Socialism to people who came here fleeing Socialist countries and expect them to vote for you. Half this country had better wake the Hell up, and do it pretty damn quick, or we are all up the proverbial creek with no paddle.
it makes me so upset hearing people who have never watched Jordan Peterson say that he’s an icon of “toxic masculinity”, when this man has shed more genuine, compassionate tears on camera than any other man on TH-cam…
I agree! I mostly live under a rock but a friend sent this to me so I don’t know who he is but I found him very poignant and you can tell he was feeling the emotion from her story.
I'm in awe of her. It's as if it wasn't enough to just survive her nigh impossibly horrific life circumstances, but she turned it into razor sharp observation and wisdom and a continued thirst for knowledge. The fact that she is not jaded by her past and turned cynical by the stupidity of the woke west speaks volumes of the strength of her character. I want my girls to see her story.
@@jobarry8227 Wikipedia requires sources or it flags it. I mean she could say literally anything and you'd believe her, cause she's not providing anything to back her story.
This is a love story. She credits him with helping to save her soul and he credits her with helping to save his hope. It is so good to know such people exist.
As a South Korean who is living in U.S, this is very interesting educational video but also very gloomy, it is pure sadness, when Yeonmi talks about his dad became soul-less after the long torture from the prison camp at 45:00 i literally cried with Jordan, I never thought of North Koreans because they are taught to be our primary enemy but after this video my heart got shocked.
I've gotten used to political correctness as a sort of annoying foolishness, like flat-earthism, but it's interesting to see how absolutely frightening it is to someone who was raised with it in its maximum form. We all need to react that way.
The way today that SJWs want to silence, censor, punish anyone that disagrees with them. The way that nonsense social constructs like Race Theory is preached .. the parallels with N.Korea is scary. How to we bring this rubbish down?
Not New Europe the coutries like Czechia, Slovakia, Poland, Ukraine, Estonia, Lithuania that were through with this poison. But it was far easier to ridicule this part of World as backward and poor. Now the USA swallow the poison of communism without even a blink. What happened America ?the 90ties and early 2000 were so great for You the land of the Free, American Dream, where is it ? Where is freedom of speech, entrepreneurship. Split by all colors but united by none, talking about equality but not about ambition, responisibilty or work.
@@alismith1618 That’s not a very progressive stance, you know. We heard the same argument in the 80’s from people who didn’t believe that Romanians or Russians were any worse off than the worker victims of capitalism in the West, though they used their right to freedom of speech, protest and go on strike at every opportunity. These blasé besserwissers were very quiet in 1989 when the wall was brought down by the people who’d lived under real life communism. Not that the anti West crowd couldn’t have found out what that was really like if they had wanted to. The evidence was rife. And noone was ever shot by West German guards trying to escape from the West into East Berlin. Perhaps the grifter here is you?
As a Reformed Christian, the fact that the missionary told her that she could not be washed clean of her Sin is despicable. It’s great that he was helping them physically but the lack of The Gospel is abominable
But that is Christian's Gospel. "You are born sinful. If you do something evil, or good, it's God's doing or plan, not yours, Etc....Now let's just pray... "
@@alysgrant6732 You got the first part right. Pretty much all Christian denominations do believe in original sin and that all people are sinners. However, the second part is heavily dependent on who's preaching the gospel. Millions of people ascribe to the Christian faith, so there is no way on God's green earth that we will all believe the same things. So yes, there is a Christian missionary who believes that prostitution is a sin that cannot be cleansed (despite the very popular belief that one of the most prominent female figures in the new testament was formerly a prostitute) and there are Christians who would be deeply disgusted with him telling a victim of rape that she's irredeemable.
Like it or not, organised religions have a tendency of attracting people with a lot of shame related to bodily functions. I won't play armchair psychiatrist here, but I've met enough puritanical christians to know it's something to be wary of. That's not to say I'm against spirituality at all, but while many do a lot of good, many missionaries are really just ideologues projecting their own fear and insecurities onto vulnerable people, while hiding behind the image of piety and spiritual purity.
Yes! She escapes, survives starvation, slavery and looks after her family at the same time when still a teenager. Then gets and education in a quarter of the time than an average western student would. Average? I think not! AMAZING, COURAGOUS, AND A TRUE HEROINE
It's not that difficult to escape a communist country. The problem when you escape is for your relatives that stay behind and get punished for your escape, can easily end up imprisoned, tortured or even dead!!
The beautiful thing about her is that even after seeing the worst of humankind, she has the courage to say "No one is pure evil." I read her book, a few weeks ago. I don't think I will ever be the same person again.
Amazing woman. Sad that our institutions are heading down a dark road and some of the most protected individuals in our society are college professors.
Haha that was the first time I heard that too! Never really thought about the long term effect of silence in the face of evil. Yes, it was eye opening for me, even though it is such a common knowledge
I learned two things from this, We take so lightly the concept of oppression and tyranny but we cannot permit it to happen in whatever form it presents.
I grew up in China during the years of the Cultural Revolution, and later was educated both in China and America. I am currently teaching in a US public school. I want to say, I’m 100% with two of them. I share every drop of their tears.
How we come to find society currently progressing, given the collective level of human understanding and the historical extent of the attrocities laid upon the people by their governments is unforgivably destruction-worthy.
I cannot speak for you, but it must horrify you to see the same methods from the Red Book being used now, on Americans, and on their children. What can we do? How can we stop this?
@@runningbear6391 what good was your 2nd amendment when they stole the election? What good was your 2nd amendment when the mob burnt down the police station in Minneapolis? Revolutions are not won with guns. When it comes to gunfire it's already too late.
I've heard Yeonmi recount the story of the dying man with his insides outside his body twice, and both times her reaction to the words she's speaking breaks my heart. There are no words to describe the resilience of this woman in the most unfathomably horrific situations imaginable. I take solace in the fact that she was spared from that utterly hellish existence.
It is a tremendous problem. Everything's infused with PC SJW CRT propaganda crap that choosing a class that you can actually learn something from is impossible > 1:58:10 . This is suppose to be one of the top universities & going here now is straight up just wasting large amounts of money.
I censor myself on TH-cam all the time. Very often it's not enough, and what I write gets blocked. I cannot tell people about real events happening now or in recent past because they are too violent or nasty for TH-cam.
I was a Columbia student at the same time she was and she accurately described the atmosphere. I was told by my University Writing (required class) professor she was going to fail one of my papers because she didn't agree with my thesis, NOT BECAUSE I DIDN'T SUPPORT IT IN MY PAPER. That is, she was going to fail my paper because she disagreed with me.
I graduated from Columbia while she went there. After leaving, I feel like I can finally speak and be free. I'm so grateful to not be in that hell hole. The education was great because I learned how to speak/write/think better but all of that is directed only towards politically correct stuff. I remember one of my favorite essays to write when I wanted an easy A was what my friends and I called the gender essay. Look at differences between men and women in any topic/book write about inequality, get an automatic A- atleast, god bless their dogma haha
I never ever comment on any TH-cam video but I just couldn't resist commenting on this. I am from Egypt and a big fan of JBP. This interview is probably my favorite JBP podcast of all time. It's so crucial and wisdom dense. You westerns do not understand how precious the freedom you enjoy is. Don't let stupidity be the reason you lose that!
I can promise: (as a 22 yr old kid) not all of us are fools. Some of us are trying to figure out how to... how to keep America on the path that it was supposed to be
Every citizen of a 'western' nation or civilization should look at this testimony and understand how good we have it, how much we take it for granted, and much we have to lose
The fucked up irony is that American leftists seriously think they're "slaves" to capitalism and apply the same types of quotes and logic to living in a western country.
@@vincentduhamel7037 And you all are going to be unbelievably shocked and disappointed when the truth comes out, that she had effectively made a career out of betraying and lying about her homeland (at the expense of all the other people who still live there, but are increasingly prohibited from accessing basic necessities including food and medicine due to further sanctions being imposed at the hands of this witch), and you’ll be demanding to be refunded for having supported such a career criminal.
@@revolutionaryhealing9992 the lapse of logic is deeply disturbing. You are trying to blame Yeonmi for the torture of other North Koreans because she’s the one who escaped. You are shamelessly blaming a victim and promoting survivor’s guilt. She should not have to answer for the Kims crimes against humanity
@@adamp108 sooo because she's changed her story a few times and maybe exaggerated or embellished it ( which all human being do by the way when relaying specific life experiences ) does it mean that everything going on in North Korea is just BS and that there is no dictatorship or human suffering on a massive scale? You detractors really baffle me, what are you trying to accomplish here by attempting to discredit her? Because I think you fail to realize that this story she's telling isn't just her story alone, it's the story of millions of other North Koreans living under the Kim dictatorship which have been told by other North Korean defectors about life in that country, which makes majority of what she says true, maybe she could be exaggerating her own personal experiences, but I think when she talks about the system that exists there, the human suffering, the brutality of the Kim dictatorship etc. All that is most definitely true, because all that has been relayed by other defectors as well....I don't know what your deal is, maybe you're one of these woke people who tries to discredit other people who are victims of real oppression because their stories poke holes in your beliefs or maybe you live in such a comfortable and privileged bubble that hearing about oppression and suffering from an actual victim of it is so unfathomable or uncomfortable to you that in order to cope with it you downplay it or accuse the victim of being liar or a fame seeker etc. Either way you and all the other detractors could at least reflect on your own lives before judging someone else.
I love how he tries to counsel her while also letting her tell her story. This women is the definition of a survivor. A demonstration of the human spirits will to survive.
It is so wonderful how he doesn't fill the talk up with a lot of his own feelings and thoughts...even when he is crying from the pain of her story, he forces himself to be the medium in which she can bring it all out. He doesn't condescend to her by sympathizing.
Holy Smokes Dr. Peterson. “I speak out because I know the price of silence.” That must be the most profound statement uttered here. It gave me chills hearing her say that.
Gave me chills too. This whole podcasts makes me realize we can do more and we must. We must protect our freedom. We must protect eachother. We must speak out. "Evil prevails when good people do nothing"
That hit me so profoundly. She’s so strong and painfully honest. The last thing she’s worried about is being on a kill list. Because she knows being silent is more dangerous for this entire world’s future. We have got to get it together if not we are setting up complete doom for our children. I don’t what to be that kind of ancestor. Thank you Dr. Peterson and Miss Park.
OH MY WORD! I thought my childhood was rough. Not anymore!! It’s all perspective. I can’t even watch this interview more than a few minutes at a time without crying so hard that I can’t hear her words. She is a living miracle.
Her conclusion is tragic : she escaped a totalitarian state, settled in a free society only to witness its coming downfall because of people being brainwashed by political correctness and moral grandstanding.
You can fool people that you are a Christian but you can not fool Jesus. True Christians are usually not easily fooled either. They also have compassion and great love for others that is what the gift of God gives us through the Holy Spirit.Not by works, money, fame but the free gift we only must believe. Jesus is the way the truth and the life and that no man comes unto the father except through Jesus Jesus also says you cannot enter the Kingdom of Heaven unless you are born again
One of the things I find so compelling about JP is how readily he weeps at the pain of another, that's the sign of a person who really cares. It's not righteous anger, or indignation or outrage, it's when you feel for someone else's pain.
I am weeping right now. It’s unbelievable to realize this is really happening. And I’m already so aware of the gift of being born in America through no merit of my own (even though I then grew up in South Africa). She is amazing to be able to share.
Respectfully, I disagree. And I think Jordan Peterson has talked about it himself, althought I don't remember when. Yes, him crying shows he cares, but that's not the only way to show that one cares. For instance, mothers tend to cry more with their children, but that doesn't mean that the fathers don't care. One could even argue that to help someone is better; maybe giving food to the hungry while not crying is better than crying with the hungry while doing nothing to help them.
Crying is wonderful way how the body down regulates and caries toxins out of the body, we highly educated considering it as "weakness and shameful" is so sad and NOT helpful for humanity!
The amount of humanity between these two is unimaginable. Calling the end of this video beautiful would be a massive understatement. Thank you Mrs Park and Dr Peterson.
37:38 I love how JP is so quick to catch Yeonmi when she begins to question her character while she was under such horrific stress and circumstances in NK. Both of y'all are lovely humans ❤️.
I kept shaking my head every time she mentioned the regimes' requirement of its citizen...I am overwhelmed that a govt can be this cruel to its citizen... I am from Nairobi, Kenya and truly I am free...
She is so articulate, strong, and she speaks so well about N. Korean's and what she not only went through but what others are going thru and how sad this is for all who are currently still suffering from a tyranny society and how she cares so much about helping others by speaking out about it. This is shocking and sad story. Im glad she wrote this book so she can look back and then turn to look forward and keep surviving and keep moving ahead.. God Bless Yeonmi Park your a pillar of strength.
Search this online! Or watch North Korea Uncovered's summary on TH-cam "The Strange Tale of Yeonmi Park" A high-profile North Korean defector has harrowing stories to tell. But are they true? .
@@cshelley5658 It doesn't seem as though you actually watched this video. or you would understand why the video you mention is a gross misinterpretation. but hey, you could also just keep copy pasting away I guess.
You can still complain. Just don't take it too seriously. More like a: "This could've gone better" - moment. I think a lighter way to see our discomforts is a good take away for sure.
The Gadsden Flag represents a willingness to complain about government overreach. F the gov. I’ll never stop complaining until I go at least a full year without noticing regulation in my everyday life.
@Craig David Both is true. Life is a curse for some people. A curse that isn't always impossible to be lifted, but often enough the cure seems unreachable. That's why so many people always say you have to live, because at some point in the future, that cure might come to you in some form. Personally, I think a person has the right to decide whether they wanna wait for that cure or not but most of life wants to find a way to persist.
"If you know what 'opressed' means, you are not opressed." She lived that and worse, and yet has the incredible strength to consider herself lucky, and instead pittys the state of western education and worrys about the global loss of freedom. I dont even think this can be put into perspective. Wow...
Or you are being oppressed by those tricking you into believing a perversion of the word oppression... The north Koreans believe they have it good and everyone else in the world is being oppressed by the capitalists.
no, you misunderstood... she doesn't pity us... let me phrase it how it actually is. She escaped hell in a set of events that can only be deemed beyond lucky, some might even call it an act of God. As she finally left the hell of being opressed, she comes to the western world where she learns she has to opress herself in the highest levels of education. The core of the society. Imagine what this does to her. Being at the university was exactly how they forced them back in North Korea to not think, to blindly believe lies, to have guilt by association. all this PC garbage. It's all communist ideology. She realised, that she never truely escaped that hell-hole, but in a spiritual way and because she literally LIVED it... imagine how fucking distraught she must have been at the realisation of "I actually never escaped". Think about that one. I mean, go back and listen that's literally what she said, but with other words.
@@siegpasta no, the problem is that she escaped, and is watching her new adopted home choose to become the same kind of nightmare willfully. The terror is not that her current situation is as bad as her former, quite the opposite, but that she has to watch her current situation deteriorate, and yet there is no where else to run. There is no longer a free world to run to. You will know how bad it is, because you will watch them take everything from you, and you have no where else to go.
This should be mandatory viewing for everyone. We spend so much arguing about such trivial matters when there is so much more important things happening in the world
Dr Peterson hosting the interview is SOOO important, as he is a student of humanities atrocities. he knows the words she speaks are true and the mindset. no other host could pull this off without dumb questions or sensationalizing it
No word for "slave" or "free", no word for "love" except love for Dear Leader. No globe, no history, no internet... And that's what our dear SJW brothers and sisters want to impose on US. Think about that next time they say "It's just about being considerate." or "What's the harm?"
“All I’m offering is the truth” “What truth?” “That you are a slave Neo. That like everyone else you were born into bondage. Born into a prison that you cannot smell or taste or touch. A prison for your mind”
I was having a “terrible” last two days due to struggling in my career and where I am in my life. After listening to Yeonmi story I realized my life compared to hers is no struggle at all. Living in the America’s we vastly take our freedom and in particular women’s freedom for granted...thank you Yeonmi for your story ❤️
Well some say that its not you who struggless.....but your true self struggles...or yor soul.... Abraham Hicks said that your inner self (soul) is always happy, ... its source of happines.... so you dont struggle because you of some outer problem/anxiety... or whatever but because your inner self is not allowed to express the happiness, calmess creativity, to show you to be happy and express itself....... Your inner self is in prison, but it has nothing to do with some other details as electricity bill or conflict with neighbor whatever.
@@dehistoriapisciumfish7639 Listen to her story, she didn’t escape because she knew the system was shit, it wasn’t for freedom because she didn’t even know what that was She went there because she was starving and hoped to find rice to eat
@@dehistoriapisciumfish7639 I think the comparison Park is trying to draw is that there’s a difference between true oppression and 1st world oppression
I don't think it's a very accurate statement though. I'm sure the millions of people in the gulags all across the soviet union knew they were being oppressed.
Not only hope, but love. In the deepest darkest pits of humanity she is able to see love in that person. Like the missionaries. Or her captor that bought her.
It was so crazy to think that in 2008, i was 11, watching The Dark Knight in theaters with my dad, while she was 14 & the burying the ashes of _her_ dad.
I cried like I have never cried before. Freedom is so fragile and we take it for granted every single day. Thank you Yeonmi for sharing your story, Thank you Dr. Petersen for using your platform to always speak Truth. 🙏
Mrs. Cruz , you weren't alone with your tears. I cried and cried like a baby and seeing Dr. Peterson feeling her emotions just opened the floodgates even more for me. You're so right in saying that we take freedom for granted. I believe that this video should be mandatory in schools
Freedom IS fragile and yet many people across the globe voluntarily gave it up yet again. I’m referring to the current global events. It broke my heart to see the society being split into two groups, brainwashed by the mainstream media. It scared me. It scared me because my country was oppressed by a totalitarian system for 50 years and my family fought for freedom. It’s very, very scary at the moment but we must speak up. As Yeonmi said: “the alternative to that is worse’.
I admit that I didn't cry PHYSICAL tears...but I did cry BUCKETS of MENTAL tears...and I'm what you would consider a manly man type. I wish there was something I could do to help her...but I think the only thing she would consider as help would be to kill off the NK regime. Shame on China for NOT doing exactly that...and, in fact, doing the exact opposite.
When they both start crying together, it gives me such hope - there is a soul to soul connection here because JBP knows communist literature inside out by his own admission and it resonates with what he's read. You can tell how deeply it pains him. God bless you both. May your voices humble those who are arrogant to think they can live what they don't understand.
Search this online! Or watch North Korea Uncovered's summary on TH-cam "The Strange Tale of Yeonmi Park" A high-profile North Korean defector has harrowing stories to tell. But are they true? .
I cried with them too I've read some Auschwitz testimonials and lately I've been ungrateful for many things in my life. I had to pause the video a handful of times because it was just too much to take in. My life is fucking awesome, I'll try not to complain ever again damn.
@@lancedolphmalsi8146 I believe the comment is talking about the conversation that starts at 45:20 where she talks about what happened to her father...
OMG i am disgusted with myself after fighting in gulf war one and tours of bosnia for this shower we call Democracy i am ashamed and this interview has confirmed my fear that we are in a dark place. Thankyou Yeonmi for sharing your journey this has touched me and inspired me and for shining a light on reality and JP for his continued truth telling. My hope is we can get behind a real leader very soon who can put the west back on the right path !
I grew up in Soviet Union, and I had my appenix removed without anesthesia, no sleepimg pills either. I was fully awake for about 90 min, strapped to the operating table. I was 18 years old, will never forget this experience. Also, I never had a shots during any dental work, until we made it to the US when I was a young adult. Gives me chills to listen to this brave lady 😢😢😢
@@charleskulvet4911 In the USSR there was no such thing…I only told my sister (future doctor) how much pain I endured. I knew nothing about anesthesia at that time, so I thought that’s how it was…I didn’t think it was a trauma, just a part of life in ‘workers’ paradise’.
@@badballiance87 We lived in Leningrad. This surgery was performed at the teaching hospital , affiliated with one of the two Medical schools in the city (#2, named after Dr. Mechnikov, I think).
I don't know how I haven't seen this conversation with Dr.Peterson and Yeonmi Park before now, but I am so glad I came across it. What an absolutely insightful and thought provoking discussion to witness. Alot of the issues Yeonmi discussed are even more poignant today in 2024 than ever. Thank you both for letting us all have a chance to see a glimpse of humanity in its rawness. It certainly reached into my soul. God bless you both.
It really hit me that after starving under a dictatorship, being sold as a sex slave, torture, and abuse she had to come to a US university to learn to self censor. It struck me how bad things are. I broke down into tears and haven’t been able to recover from the thought.
This interview is shocking to the core. And illuminating at the same time. I wish too that I had just one professor like Jordan. I don't think I would've dropped university. Twice. Thank you Jordan and thank you Yeonmi. From the bottom of my heart I wish both good health
I thought s.korea meant heaven for them, but then i became hopeless when she mentioned that 2 north Koreans died in Seoul from hunger. Man how cruel this world is!
As a German I hope you can one day welcome your northern brothers and sisters back into your country. I know it seems impossible to happen right now, but if the opportunity ever presents itself I hope the people of the south will have heart and courage to face all of the difficulties that come with reuniting a people that was torn apart for decades.
@@Barwasser Unlikely, because S. Korea is a US allie. The US will never side with N.Korea unless it’s overhauled. Or unless the democrats won and hand the rest of us of us to China (China has a grip on n Korea)
Dr Peterson is a deeply passionate and compassionate person. His sincerity with his angst about what has happened to western education is a profound statement about this tragedy.
Show Notes:
[02:00] Yeonmi's story
[04:30] Information Control
[06:00] Eating in North Korea
[08:00] Spring; the season of death when people can't make it to the summer for food.
[10:30] Average wage in North Korea and living off of grasshoppers
[13:00] Class distinctions in North Korea
[15:00] Group guilts
[18:00] What Yeonmi’s parents did to survive.
[21:00] When her father started to trade and how she links trade with freedom
[24:30] How Yeonmi’s mother was almost thrown in a prison camp because of her uncle
[29:00] Being alone as a kid in North Korea typical day and week (one of the best clips
[33:00] What she was eating and where she was getting her food.
[36:00] Constantly thinking about food
[41:30] The North Korean prison camp experience
[44:00] Her dad getting out of the concentration camp
[45:00] What happened to her father when he came back from prison
[48:00] China lights from North Korea
[49:30] Trafficking into china
[50:30] Her time as a sex slave in China
[56:30] Eating enough food to get full for the first time
[58:00] Reuniting with her father and the slave owner
[01:01:30] Selling her mother for food
[01:03:30] Sex chat rooms
[01:05:00] Freedom in South Korea through Christianity
[01:06:30] Christian missionary
[01:11:30] Traveling to Mongolia
[01:14:30] The holding camp in Mongolia
[01:19:00] Being identified as refugees in South Korea
[01:20:00] When she realized what North Korea was.
[01:21:00] Why she thought George Orwell's book is relevant to the time she spent in North Korea.
[01:23:30] When Yeon Mi started to speak out.
[01:27:30] What drove her from the university.
[01:34:00] Managing to get into a university in South Korea
[01:35:30] Becoming the North Korean Paris Hilton and studying criminal justice.
[01:39:00] Discovering her sister
[01:40:00] Ending up at Columbia University
[01:44:00] Her time at Columbia University
[01:57:30] What's next for Yeon Mi?
Timestamp guy is back!
Very Much Appreciated! 🙏
The timestamps are super useful. Doc, you're crushing it!
These time indexes are VERY helpful! Thanks for putting in the work to make it!
These time stamps are great. And if you put them in the video description they’ll turn into chapters
Thank you, Dr. Peterson for caring about the North Korean people and helping me to free my country from a dictator.
Thank you everyone for your kind support and heartfelt words ♥️
So glad you did this Yeonmi :)
Much love ❤️ and all the best on your journey.
Thank you for being as brave as you are.
Thank you Yeomni for taking the time to do this for us
Modern day hero
I've just learned I never had a bad day in my life.
Thank you for sharing
I think we should not compare ourselves to other’s tragedies. But instead, what I think we need is a broader perspective to know what we are truly capable of.
@@TheVineOfChristLives I agree and her biography certainly wouldn't be useful reference for me in that regard anyway, as I fortunately can't relate to it.
Still, taking a glimpse down this dystopian abyss, allows me to view my own problems from a different perspective. I'm grateful for that.
@@martinm6368 her story is definitely inspiring of gratitude, but to my mind, there’s something far greater we need to be more than just grateful from her account. If it was anything beyond gratefulness, And don’t get me wrong, I think being grateful is good too Martin. But Perhaps her story really shows we need to champion our own change to overcome the kinds of evil that still exists in the world today? Perhaps?
@@TheVineOfChristLives Just remember every time you hear the Marxist tripe about racism, Islam, critical race theory, social justice, Chinese communism, blm…..that their goal is to bring you to a place where you are eating rats and starving and so are your children. Don’t ever think for a second that this isn’t the goal of the left. It is what they did in Russia, in China, in Ukraine, Cambodia, Vietnam,
Yugoslavia and North Korea.
When a North Korean defector who has escaped to USA starts to worry about USA’s own freedom..it terrifies me. It should terrify everyone.
Anger is more useful than terror.
so true
We are slaves. Though not to such a degree of severity, we still slave under a cookie cutter means to education, work, life and family. All of it needs to have the light shined on it. Given the current state of government dependency for people to make ends meet, how banks own nearly everything. You believing your house or car is yours is just an idea, not truth. It can all be taken at any moment.
I'm cuban, every people that lived in a dictatorship can see it clearly where this country is going, we need to stop it, you all must care about politics. Is the only way. Be and activists, even in a soft form.
@@Helicopterpilot16 To be fair, this is a pretty huge exaggeration. Taking out massive loans and credit card debt and then not being able to pay for it is very different from living in a totalitarian regime.
I bow before the reaction of Jordan when he was hearing her story. Many-many people took interview from Yeonmi and nobody shed a tear, and Jordan was the only one who felt her so well that he really started crying. That is the best thing. He is the greatest human being, the example of what we all should be...
People love to mock Jordan for becoming emotional somewhat frequently when he’s doing interviews. But honestly I think he’s just highly empathetic and really feels these people’s pain. He’s seen the broken people coming to his events and telling him how beaten down they are. How could you not become emotional when you’ve seen so many people fight through so much. Yeonmis appearance on Flagrant was a little cringe worthy because she was sitting there talking about some of these horrific things and the guys were sitting there cracking jokes every 5 seconds and talking about her eating rats non stop. This is a million times better interview
@@talbotd27 Who would have made the jokes like that?... horrific...
@@videogra5645 Ethan Klein of H3h3 and Hassan Piker who’s also on that show sometimes. A lot of super far left people just absolutely hate Jordan with a passion because he thinks that the transgender issue has gone too far in the US and Canada. So instead of respectfully disagreeing with him they mock him for his mental health issues and attack his daughter on her intellect and appearance. They’re some of the most vicious people I’ve seen
@@videogra5645 and I used to be a fan of Ethan 😂 But at some point he morphed into this ultra left wing monster
How could you say such a thing? This is not about Jordan, this is about Yeonmi!
I find the arrogance of Columbia University's lecturers in assuming that they can teach Yeonmi Park about oppression utterly nauseating.
That has always been the case for decades. I've listened to lectures and read many instances of Western academics and professors praising the Cultural Revolution and "debunking" Chinese survivor and escapee accounts of the brutality of Maoist China as exaggeration because they claim that they were also there (which is true). Many Western academics went to China during the Cultural Revolution but unlike the ordinary citizen these people were treated as guests by the communists so they get to experience the pageantry and parades and were not shown the reality.
This is no different from those Potemkin Villages shown to Western journalists who visited the USSR where the government created villages with prisoners were supposed to live happily and prosperously so these journalists can report back to the West that the anti-communist activists were just crazy paranoid right-wing lunatics and communism wasn't so bad. I apologize for this long reply.
Well said
Arrogance doesn't even begin to capture the absurdity of a Columbia University professor lecturing this woman about tyranny....
Link?
Yeonmi is the right voice at the right time.
When a North Korean defector tells you that things are getting bad in the west LISTEN.
Yeah. When she said she relearned how to self-censor in USA.. I felt that
The west can’t hear it cause it’s too busy censoring each other.
@@MGSVxBreakpoint I was screaming at the screen! I could feel what she was going to say and damn!, Yep, she said it. Escape North Korea/China/Mongolia slave trade to be muzzled upon entering an American school of higher learning.
Just wow!
Indeed!
We are being told what to say, what to think, what not to listen to or watch. Indoctrinated in other words, by people who hate us. It could keep moving along that spectrum, or it could be stopped. I must admit I’m fascinated.
How do these universities not die of shame when a north Korean defector says her studying there was a waste of time. Is there a bigger insult?
They live in bubbles, They won't even hear about it lol
Well, as she explained, they rather ridicule and discriminate her than admit they are in the wrong. I fear it's already too late for them.
There really isn't, I can't believe they said she must still be brainwashed as an answer to her disagreement. The irony!
They don’t give a shit about us. To those snobs we are not cultured and sophisticated enough to understand their discussion. Our opposing point of view is a sign of lack of cultivation.
I am sure they understand she's just trying to sell some books and don't take what she's saying personally or literally.
She was born in 1993. 5 years younger than me. So the realization that while I was playing Nintendo, listening to CDS, dating, driving, partying with friends, getting married, having kids, having BBQs w family, she had been enduring all of this.
Yeah but all of those "things" did what exactly for our benefit?
@@juliagulia5823
😂😂
@@juliagulia5823 they did not traumatize us, that's for sure.
So heartbreaking. Thinking of it that way. I remember all the times being "bored" as a kid.. boredom is a luxury not many kids get around the world
@@juliagulia5823
Wow, that sounds like such a selfish comment. Nothing she or Jbird has experienced in life means anything unless is for our benefit.
I would like to think Yeonmi outside of human flaws is a survivor who would never again progress through life using another persons suffering. To me we all benefit from that greater then the latest product APPLE pushed.
This should be required viewing in American humanities classes.
No one would watch it because it's "triggering"....
Well we used to read animal farm in school, maybe we could bring that back first? Baby steps
Share Share Share!
@@hrogarfyrninga3238 They should be forced to watch it at gun point. WTH
@@richardmcmechan7831 I was on highschool from '03 to '07. We read it. We read A Brave New World by Huxley too. Huxley seems so prescient now. Soon Orwell may seem the same.
Jordan, do not stop, you can’t. These voices need to be heard.
I just burst out laughing at your name. Here we are listening to a serious discussion about the fall of western civilization and Totalitarianism than I see the most dictator or dictators the God Damn Emperor of Man.
Free market good, Xenos and Heretics bad.
@@thegodemperorofmankind7yea704 Never thought I'd here you say that first part.... but I can get behind it! Praise to The God Emperor!
Ave Imperator!
My buddy just told me a couple weeks ago about warhammer 40k too lol!
This free interview is better than anything TV has to offer. I'm left speechless by this..
Why tf you dissing TV there some real jarring things on thier if actually took time to look. FOR every video like this They're Literally 1000 shitty ones.
Just like Michael Knowles' new book! Speechless: Controlling Words, Controlling Minds.
A tragedy of our modern ways.
That could be because this is so great, or it could be because TV is so horrible. James Corbett calls it dinosaur media because it's basically obsolete.
Speechless
No words. I’m sobbing. This interview should be shown to every high school student and every college student in America. I’m a grown woman and this taught me more than anything has in the last 20 years. She is changing the world- she has changed mine. Thank you so much for doing this interview. I am so grateful. Beyond grateful.
It absolutely should be taught in schools.
Amen 🙏
I know. I’m older than her but she’s my role model now!
Marxist Utopia is North Korea.
@kyuhotae6410
Good point.
I also reacted to some of her non-verbals and a number of other signals my trade has taught me to be wary of.
I think there is much truth to her testimony but neither can I shake the reaction my intuition fired off a good number of times during this interview.
Like she herself said:
""People are complex.""
I would not write it ALL off.
Yet, there is some healthy skepticism I will keep about multiple aspects of this testimony.
PS There are NO mainstream denominations of Christianity that claim sins can be too great for forgiveness.
Certainly not for prostitution.
Jesus healed and forgave many prostitutes during his ministry and one of them became the first person to be told the good news of Jesus' resurrection by Jesus himself in the Garden of Gethsemane.
According to ALL congregations of standard Biblical Christianity ALL sins are forgiven the sincerely repentant sinner.
But to the unrepentant who actively CHOOSE to despise the sacrifice and redemption of God's Son...in other words the sin of rejecting God's forgiveness itself in condemning the mercy of Christ toward his repentant creation, there is no healing of sins and thus they remain.
Even blaspheming God's name and blaspheming His Son is forgiven by God to the repentant sinner.
But how can one who despises the Holy Spirit when it comes with forgiveness be forgiven?
This is what Jesus taught.
Perhaps there was a simple misunderstanding on her part and she mistakenly THOUGHT that the missionary said she could not be forgiven?
Something does not add up about that part of her story.
The female professor that pulled her to one side over a debate about gender norms and whom ultimately concluded that she was still brainwashed by North Korean culture.... I have no words to describe the level of loathing I felt. I hope she wakes up to the horror of herself one day.
Well said!
@@tonypage604 I agree, well said. But it should read: ''.....and who ultimately concluded......" Best to all!
When people believe in what they talk about without self-reflection and no critical thinking, like puppets.That's how you tell when they are a product of serious and effective propaganda. These people who are going around telling others what the truth is. Reminds me more and more of the description of double-think from Orwells 1984. So much of that book has come true, you could almost think it is sitting somewhere in the higher echelons as some kind of handbook or guide.
why the univ is an utter and total waste of EVERYTHING.
That professor, and her colleagues with such views, have voluntarily "brainwashed" themselves to be the new, metaphorical North Korea. To paraphrase the old axiom; we have the ironies we deserve.
That was a life changing interview. What an incredible and strong person she is.
100 percent
Yeah and imagine the people who didn’t get out.
I agree. I was moved to tears many times by how strong she is.
@@DougMaverickTube or the family members of the ones who escaped. 😢
your video POUR 585 is a very good depiction of tyranny, thank you. and i was very affected by this interview as well.
When someone from North Korea complains about control of speech in America, we better listen
Ya. And the fact that she sees no value in a university education that costs six figures. Oof.
It's enough to disillusion a man of the fantasy of freedom and democracy.
That's was my biggest take away, a warning that you are only a few steps away from totalitarian socialism when you higher education system is teaching intolerance. No wonder Peterson was upset.
Heih! Hands on my head....we better listen indeed
@@paulemillevasseur7622 IF it's NOT STEM, then College IS Wasted! Wake the Fuck up!
The pain Dr Peterson felt when Yeonmi couldn't recall any thing that she found impressive when she was at prestigious Columbia University must be so painful that he couldn't hold back his tears. That's is something all educators should be contemplating about the works they are doing with their students.
This is possibly the most important video for society at this time.
wished I could click hundreds of times on this comment
Sounds like it!
Agree 100%.
No kidding!
This brings things full circle & gives us focus.
“If you know you are oppressed, you’re not oppressed.” This will stick with me forever.
Yes because you know and can say the word. The control of Nth Korea is ( I was going to say mindblowing, but is the opposite ‘mind shrinking’)
That stood out for me too.
yeah but it makes no sense. Its beyond that its insanely stupid. There are circumstances where that can be the case but most oppressed people know. North Korea and the Soviet Union are 2 examples of people not knowing.
Wtf if you know your fat your not fat if you know your being abused your not abused if you know your sick your not sick? Doesnt make since.
Big facts
When Jordan asked Yeonmi how she feels about the west, I expected her to sing praises of the freedom and technology. Instead, she started talking about how they're trying to associate group guilt to people whose ancestors were slave owners, and my heart just sank. It really gives you pause when you see a person from a literal tyranny find things in common with what she experienced and what she's seeing in society today.
Perspective from others must be shared.
What? Your telling me that wrong pronouns isn't real oppression?
/s
She seemed to be saying she sees the seeds of dictatorship in the group guilt and censorship seeds that grow into the chains our children will be forced to wear. May enough people wake up and stand for freedom.
How can we choose our ancestors?
We're also rushing towards the next big us/them:
vaxxed/unvaxxed
The way this young woman is able to accept life in all of its complexity and pain but without carrying anger and bitterness is fascinating. To see that no one is truly evil, and humanity is just incredibly complicated is a proof of immense emotional intelligence. Her story is the story of life itself, in all of its horror and the jewel that came out of it. She shines so bright on the world ❤✨
Well said 👌
I was gonna complain about my day, but it turns out I don’t have any struggles or problems at all after listening to this.
Did you remember to clean your room for starters? :)
Seriously. Talk about a reality check.
I kindly suggest to watch Phuong DPRK, a lone voice in the dark aspousing the truth about the Korean people's 75-year-long war against America. And read Abrams' book _Immovable Force._
- Adûnâi
Salute !
Are you sure you have "zero" problems? Be realistic. Everyone has problems. That's life. I think a better way to go about this should be: We can be grateful and solve our problems at the same time ❤
"Life is a gift. No matter how hard it is, you have to fight for it."
- her Father
hit me hard... wow
So much of this has hit me hard. I have watched her a few times now and this is by far the best space she was able to give her story to the world.
How she loved her father-- brought me to tears, and I'm 67 yrs old!
Another argument against abortion
I cried so hard at that point. She obviously loved her father a lot, I can’t imagine how it felt for her to watch what happened to him
She said “I KNEW the price of SILENCE.” Man. That hit hard.
Also, “If you KNOW you are oppressed, you are NOT oppressed”
What a perspective to hear.
Breakman Radio maybe perhaps in different parts of world but for freeing someone in China or NK, you can't donate to anyone or anything unfortunately except those who want to take down CCP
@@breakmanradio2530 🙋🏽♂️
She made things really clear. In a way I wouldn't have thought possible ☺️
I understand from her perspective what she means by “if you know you’re oppressed, you are not oppressed”. But in every broader sense of the term that is categorically untrue. Thinking about POC in America is just one example
POC are not oppressed in America. 65 years of reparations and preferential treatment has fixed that. And then some.
These are two of the most inspirational people I’ve seen in my life. Dr. Peterson’s compassion and bravery in the face of an oppressive government, Yeonmi’s strength and determination to live and seek a better life. If I could be half the person they are I would be proud
Well said
I totally agree agree. What an interview, that was one of the most incredibly touching and thought provoking interviews I’ve ever watched. Two powerful and brave people right there, unafraid of speaking the truth.
Top bad she literally lied about everything😂 she never experienced any of these tragedies, yeonmi park has been exposed by other defectors and her own mother🤦♂️
@@epyonsystem1869 it’s really sad that you would be such a bitter person that you would attack somebody who has already been through hell. What are you basing these accusations on may I ask?
@@talbotd27 love how it's crickets once you ask for more info 🙃
This interview should be required watching in high-schools. Not just for the students either....
I agree 100% with you!
Yup. No doubt. Here in Sweden too.
I third that!
For the exact reasons you say such a thing, is the real reason why it would be rejected. Mainly coz those who would not want you to know this would do what NK does
@@StixFerryMan the only way to fight this madness is to tell the truth.
Every single person needs to watch this. Freedom is SO fragile.
“I know the price of silence.” Wow. Don’t be silent.
I had VERY mixed emotions watching this; from numbness to anger to extreme sympathy (i.e. weeping like fellow Canadian Jordan). Saying > "don't be silent" > you knocked it out of the ballpark GRANDSLAM. The ole Soviet regime under Stallin started that Korean War testing Truman...Truman dropping the bombs must have been a horrid decision to make w.r.t. Japan BUT, he saved ally lives vs. an Emperor that would push his own country men LIKE HITLER to suicidal bombing. Wherever cruelty and evil rises its devilish head we've a moral duty to snuff it out at all costs. I'd easily choose death then to live as this young lady did likely cuz I grew overly privileged.
But don't blabber stupidly either.
Gunpower-Barrel 'N-Korea'...
Her grandmother knew what oppression was, but kept silence. Now her grandchildren doesn't know what the word even means.
She speaking to me? Us?
So, who's speaking up about government's reaction to COVID?
We the people don't want to hear the truth. We benefit from slavery.
"A small room with a lot of books, isn't so small" The world is such a better place to have these 2 in it.
🥲👍
That is a profound statement to say the least.
...we first worlders with all our non-communist controlled lives don't even know how good we have it.
@@FUNZO1975 Covid is aiming to ending all of our non-communist controlled lives
@@terryharnden5510 true
All true. Covid is just part of the bigger picture to end personal freedom-to end the individual! What’s next? Beware the Great Reset. Resist!
Hearing about her experience at Columbia was such a shame. Our formerly-prestigious institutions are all rotting away.
first world problem. people got offended when others hold doors for you
@@ReBorn0704and God forbid, the wrong half-ass pronoun.
Ivy League education of self absorbed feelings without knowing the importance of humanity for survival of society.
They are not rotting away. University is a choice. If you don’t like what they are teaching in a class you don’t go to it. It’s that simple. They are having debates in a classroom which are simply that debates and people are acting as if this is what society is doing as a whole.
@@shanghaichica Ok so what's the alternative choice? Be a truck driver?
If a North Korean defector not feeling free in the west isn't the ultimate warning sign, I don't know what is.
I don't know you, but you used the phrase "ultimate warning sign" and I can't fit that into my map of reality.
I feel like you are free to do whatever you want, and so are your neighbors, the police and everybody else. Limiting yourself by weighting the consequences of your actions is just basic intelligence, and the western world is relatively more free, as a whole and for most people, than North Korea indeed.
In the future, there will probably be a fully realistic virtual world, where you can be as free as you want, and you can see the value of your freedom from the amount of your viewers, and the feedback that they provide. Before that, the damage from, say 300 million people feeling absolutely free to indulge whatever crosses their mind, seems unbearable.
Sorry if this seems condescending, but it's just how I feel. Maybe I missed some kind of joke or a deeper point, so feel free to expand.
@@maintaint3003 In Austria´s universities you will fail your Bachelor/Master Degree if you don´t "gender" correctly ! This is not free speech !
@@shakalpb1164 In Austria, the European country? That's something, but compare that to any North Korean university.
Seriously, navigating newspeak is way better than their totalitarian system. Public executions of state enemies, that everybody nearby over the age of twelve has to observe? Nothing's perfect, but that's Hell.
I got no love for the ultra-woke, but check out some off-the-radar social medias, bulletin boards and forums mostly, that don't moderate speech. Cesspools of childish obscenities, laden with prejudices, no matter what the subject. If that's freedom, I'll take vanilla.
@@maintaint3003 And when the option of vanilla also vanishes? What then?
@@maintaint3003 I wonder if you actually watched the video?
Did you even listen to Yeomi?
The fact that she comes from a country ruled by a murderous totalitarian/authoritarian regime and is now saying that here, in America, she is beginning to feel the same dread and fear as she did in N. Korea, allow me to repeat...IN AMERICA...that should scare the ever living fuck out of you.
Because it means that she is seeing signs of the same totalitarian/authoritarian regime structure in OUR government.
Or at least the beginnings of such a structure.
Do you get it yet?
The Cuba/Venezuela immigrants and refugees in Florida have been screaming the same warnings for a while now, "Hey guys! We've seen this shit before, we know where this leads! You don't want to do this!"
It's why the Democrats lost so much of the Hispanic vote in Florida. You don't peddle Socialism to people who came here fleeing Socialist countries and expect them to vote for you.
Half this country had better wake the Hell up, and do it pretty damn quick, or we are all up the proverbial creek with no paddle.
Dr. Peterson, you weren't the only one crying at her story.
I literally had to stop the video because I was crying hard
😭😭😭 X
it makes me so upset hearing people who have never watched Jordan Peterson say that he’s an icon of “toxic masculinity”, when this man has shed more genuine, compassionate tears on camera than any other man on TH-cam…
Dude they would hate on anyone even if they didn't do anything wrong
I was thinking that exact same thing!
Preach
Amen sister
I agree! I mostly live under a rock but a friend sent this to me so I don’t know who he is but I found him very poignant and you can tell he was feeling the emotion from her story.
I'm in awe of her. It's as if it wasn't enough to just survive her nigh impossibly horrific life circumstances, but she turned it into razor sharp observation and wisdom and a continued thirst for knowledge. The fact that she is not jaded by her past and turned cynical by the stupidity of the woke west speaks volumes of the strength of her character. I want my girls to see her story.
Right. She's an absolutely incredible person.
Dude she lied about a lot of this for money and fame. Her story doesn't add up at all if you look into it. All of us have been lied to.
Shame it's all lies lmao. Google her wikipedia page.
@@kratos.8151 Oh no! No wikipedia!! Not the fount of all things absolutely factual and true!! 😱
@@jobarry8227 Wikipedia requires sources or it flags it. I mean she could say literally anything and you'd believe her, cause she's not providing anything to back her story.
"a room full of books isn't small" What a great quote.
It is.
Time stamp ?
Amazing quote!!
@@rogerc23 1:34:08
@@hayatosasaki5826 Thanks mate. Very kind of you.
When JP calls you kiddo, you know you've made it in life. God bless him for his compassion and her for her courage.
I completely lost it at that point. my mom came in to my room all concerned to see why I was bawling
@@adelehall5313 I'm still crying
She felt it.
This is a love story. She credits him with helping to save her soul and he credits her with helping to save his hope. It is so good to know such people exist.
That... was a really beautiful way to put it.. Thank you for that.
Indeed.
One might even call it... a symbious relationship.
Very well put. It is beautiful watching both of them.
As a South Korean who is living in U.S, this is very interesting educational video but also very gloomy, it is pure sadness, when Yeonmi talks about his dad became soul-less after the long torture from the prison camp at 45:00 i literally cried with Jordan, I never thought of North Koreans because they are taught to be our primary enemy but after this video my heart got shocked.
'In Times of Deceit, Telling the Truth IS a Revolutionary Act.'
George Orwell
Never forget that.
You can quote every page in 1984 on this video.
@@Feodor1418 you can quote every page in 1984 on this day and age
I've gotten used to political correctness as a sort of annoying foolishness, like flat-earthism, but it's interesting to see how absolutely frightening it is to someone who was raised with it in its maximum form. We all need to react that way.
Yeonmi Park saying "I knew the price of silence" should be heard by everyone. This is the best interview I have ever watched.
Agree! Totally!
Same!
Yes!
The way today that SJWs want to silence, censor, punish anyone that disagrees with them. The way that nonsense social constructs like Race Theory is preached .. the parallels with N.Korea is scary. How to we bring this rubbish down?
Everyone needs to watch this video. Literally, the whole world should watch.
Not New Europe the coutries like Czechia, Slovakia, Poland, Ukraine, Estonia, Lithuania that were through with this poison. But it was far easier to ridicule this part of World as backward and poor. Now the USA swallow the poison of communism without even a blink. What happened America ?the 90ties and early 2000 were so great for You the land of the Free, American Dream, where is it ? Where is freedom of speech, entrepreneurship. Split by all colors but united by none, talking about equality but not about ambition, responisibilty or work.
She's a grifter. She found a niche market of impressionable young boys. Ohhh look at me, I suffered because of communism. Capitalism good
100%!!!
I came on to say precisely the same thing
@@alismith1618 That’s not a very progressive stance, you know. We heard the same argument in the 80’s from people who didn’t believe that Romanians or Russians were any worse off than the worker victims of capitalism in the West, though they used their right to freedom of speech, protest and go on strike at every opportunity. These blasé besserwissers were very quiet in 1989 when the wall was brought down by the people who’d lived under real life communism. Not that the anti West crowd couldn’t have found out what that was really like if they had wanted to. The evidence was rife. And noone was ever shot by West German guards trying to escape from the West into East Berlin. Perhaps the grifter here is you?
As a Reformed Christian, the fact that the missionary told her that she could not be washed clean of her Sin is despicable. It’s great that he was helping them physically but the lack of The Gospel is abominable
RIGHT!!!! That made me angry.
YES! I had the same feeling.
But that is Christian's Gospel. "You are born sinful. If you do something evil, or good, it's God's doing or plan, not yours, Etc....Now let's just pray... "
@@alysgrant6732 You got the first part right. Pretty much all Christian denominations do believe in original sin and that all people are sinners. However, the second part is heavily dependent on who's preaching the gospel.
Millions of people ascribe to the Christian faith, so there is no way on God's green earth that we will all believe the same things. So yes, there is a Christian missionary who believes that prostitution is a sin that cannot be cleansed (despite the very popular belief that one of the most prominent female figures in the new testament was formerly a prostitute) and there are Christians who would be deeply disgusted with him telling a victim of rape that she's irredeemable.
Like it or not, organised religions have a tendency of attracting people with a lot of shame related to bodily functions. I won't play armchair psychiatrist here, but I've met enough puritanical christians to know it's something to be wary of. That's not to say I'm against spirituality at all, but while many do a lot of good, many missionaries are really just ideologues projecting their own fear and insecurities onto vulnerable people, while hiding behind the image of piety and spiritual purity.
She calls herself an average person, but she’s one of the biggest heroes for western civilization. God bless her. ♥️
Yes, she's definetly not an average person?
Yes! She escapes, survives starvation, slavery and looks after her family at the same time when still a teenager. Then gets and education in a quarter of the time than an average western student would. Average? I think not! AMAZING, COURAGOUS, AND A TRUE HEROINE
For the world*
It's not that difficult to escape a communist country.
The problem when you escape is for your relatives that stay behind and get punished for your escape, can easily end up imprisoned, tortured or even dead!!
@@JC-XL Then no one escapes?
The beautiful thing about her is that even after seeing the worst of humankind, she has the courage to say "No one is pure evil."
I read her book, a few weeks ago. I don't think I will ever be the same person again.
I love her.
The "no-one is pure evil" thing may be true, but I don't think it's for lack of trying.
this podcast made me buy her book
❤️❤️❤️
Amazing woman. Sad that our institutions are heading down a dark road and some of the most protected individuals in our society are college professors.
“Tell the Truth. Not because you are brave, but the alternative is worse!” Wow!
@@vandalayindustries3057 it flapped once.
Haha that was the first time I heard that too! Never really thought about the long term effect of silence in the face of evil. Yes, it was eye opening for me, even though it is such a common knowledge
Yes this is one of my favorite things he said.
we continue to lie b/c it is more comfortable in the moment!
Tell the truth, not because you are brave, but because you'd be terrified not to.
I learned two things from this, We take so lightly the concept of oppression and tyranny but we cannot permit it to happen in whatever form it presents.
But yet it happens under every government because they are ALL by threat, duress and coercion. Unless of course you can name even one that is not?
Yeonmi's crying
Jordan's crying
I'm crying
Samesies
Crying as well
Same
Google laughs
Siri laughs
Timestamps?
"Most people die in the spring because that's when there's no insects and plants." Just ponder on that alone..
And the fact that so many westerners refer to our socities as inequitable. Sickening.
The phrase “they ESCAPED to China “ imagine a world where ending up in China is an escape
well by that logic it would be "better" to kill people in winter...
Right?
And now the Western Elite are trying to convince in us to eat insects. Foreshadowing?
I grew up in China during the years of the Cultural Revolution, and later was educated both in China and America. I am currently teaching in a US public school. I want to say, I’m 100% with two of them. I share every drop of their tears.
How we come to find society currently progressing, given the collective level of human understanding and the historical extent of the attrocities laid upon the people by their governments is unforgivably destruction-worthy.
How do you morally intellectually survive the US education system?
They can die free.
I cannot speak for you, but it must horrify you to see the same methods from the Red Book being used now, on Americans, and on their children.
What can we do? How can we stop this?
@@runningbear6391 what good was your 2nd amendment when they stole the election? What good was your 2nd amendment when the mob burnt down the police station in Minneapolis? Revolutions are not won with guns. When it comes to gunfire it's already too late.
I've heard Yeonmi recount the story of the dying man with his insides outside his body twice, and both times her reaction to the words she's speaking breaks my heart. There are no words to describe the resilience of this woman in the most unfathomably horrific situations imaginable. I take solace in the fact that she was spared from that utterly hellish existence.
When she went to Columbia University she had to learn how to censor herself all over again...this is a problem people.
It is a tremendous problem. Everything's infused with PC SJW CRT propaganda crap that choosing a class that you can actually learn something from is impossible > 1:58:10 . This is suppose to be one of the top universities & going here now is straight up just wasting large amounts of money.
I censor myself on TH-cam all the time. Very often it's not enough, and what I write gets blocked. I cannot tell people about real events happening now or in recent past because they are too violent or nasty for TH-cam.
I was a Columbia student at the same time she was and she accurately described the atmosphere. I was told by my University Writing (required class) professor she was going to fail one of my papers because she didn't agree with my thesis, NOT BECAUSE I DIDN'T SUPPORT IT IN MY PAPER. That is, she was going to fail my paper because she disagreed with me.
I graduated from Columbia while she went there. After leaving, I feel like I can finally speak and be free. I'm so grateful to not be in that hell hole. The education was great because I learned how to speak/write/think better but all of that is directed only towards politically correct stuff. I remember one of my favorite essays to write when I wanted an easy A was what my friends and I called the gender essay. Look at differences between men and women in any topic/book write about inequality, get an automatic A- atleast, god bless their dogma haha
@@riversj88 yep, exactly!
I never ever comment on any TH-cam video but I just couldn't resist commenting on this. I am from Egypt and a big fan of JBP. This interview is probably my favorite JBP podcast of all time. It's so crucial and wisdom dense. You westerns do not understand how precious the freedom you enjoy is. Don't let stupidity be the reason you lose that!
Preach brother
I can promise: (as a 22 yr old kid) not all of us are fools. Some of us are trying to figure out how to... how to keep America on the path that it was supposed to be
Same!
Agreeing from the Pacific
Yet we’re raising a generation of stupid and entitled.
I'm using this as a part of my homeschooling curriculum on the evils of communism and tyranny, and the importance of freedom.
Good luck. I would like an update on this, if possible
I think I will do the same!
Good. Do it while it’s still legal.
yes me as well
@alex they need to be taught. The world can be a horrible place. At a certain age I would say, maybe 7th or 8th grade.
Every citizen of a 'western' nation or civilization should look at this testimony and understand how good we have it, how much we take it for granted, and much we have to lose
“How do you fight to be free when you don’t know you’re a slave?” -Yeonmi Park
Mind numbingly brutal existence .
Puts a different slant on your own troubles dont it!
so applicable to us in the West today
You don't because you don't want it either if you know it :D
That was so shockingly horrifying to hear in this podcast
The fucked up irony is that American leftists seriously think they're "slaves" to capitalism and apply the same types of quotes and logic to living in a western country.
Protect this woman at all costs! She is such a light and the world needs her.
I wish I could like this more than on once
Christ jesus is the light for humanity but she is still a sparkling light
I think she's more adept at protecting herself than any of us will ever be able to claim.
@@vincentduhamel7037 And you all are going to be unbelievably shocked and disappointed when the truth comes out, that she had effectively made a career out of betraying and lying about her homeland (at the expense of all the other people who still live there, but are increasingly prohibited from accessing basic necessities including food and medicine due to further sanctions being imposed at the hands of this witch), and you’ll be demanding to be refunded for having supported such a career criminal.
@@revolutionaryhealing9992 the lapse of logic is deeply disturbing. You are trying to blame Yeonmi for the torture of other North Koreans because she’s the one who escaped. You are shamelessly blaming a victim and promoting survivor’s guilt. She should not have to answer for the Kims crimes against humanity
Jordon Peterson’s tears, the depth of his compassion and intellect brought a flood of tears to my eyes.
yeah, pretty silly...the three of us crying simultaneously.
@@milindlokhande1470 Three? I counted four at least.
@@eden12340 Five
I think it's around 480,000 crying together. Anybody that tries to assign evil to jordan is so obviously malicious.
@@eden12340 I meant while watching the video. I was thinking. you know
This woman is the definition of a Warrior, what she went through to get the truth out is simply UNREAL, but sadly real.
This woman is a walking breathing miracle. What a strong and inspiring human. Bless.
@@adamp108 sooo because she's changed her story a few times and maybe exaggerated or embellished it ( which all human being do by the way when relaying specific life experiences ) does it mean that everything going on in North Korea is just BS and that there is no dictatorship or human suffering on a massive scale?
You detractors really baffle me, what are you trying to accomplish here by attempting to discredit her? Because I think you fail to realize that this story she's telling isn't just her story alone, it's the story of millions of other North Koreans living under the Kim dictatorship which have been told by other North Korean defectors about life in that country, which makes majority of what she says true, maybe she could be exaggerating her own personal experiences, but I think when she talks about the system that exists there, the human suffering, the brutality of the Kim dictatorship etc. All that is most definitely true, because all that has been relayed by other defectors as well....I don't know what your deal is, maybe you're one of these woke people who tries to discredit other people who are victims of real oppression because their stories poke holes in your beliefs or maybe you live in such a comfortable and privileged bubble that hearing about oppression and suffering from an actual victim of it is so unfathomable or uncomfortable to you that in order to cope with it you downplay it or accuse the victim of being liar or a fame seeker etc. Either way you and all the other detractors could at least reflect on your own lives before judging someone else.
There is no such thing as miracles or god. Only the actions, determination and drive of human ingenuity.
I love how he tries to counsel her while also letting her tell her story. This women is the definition of a survivor. A demonstration of the human spirits will to survive.
@T. de Goeij nigga 🤣🤣
@@marza339 llllil
*woman
Theres this youtuber saying she is lying..
It is so wonderful how he doesn't fill the talk up with a lot of his own feelings and thoughts...even when he is crying from the pain of her story, he forces himself to be the medium in which she can bring it all out. He doesn't condescend to her by sympathizing.
Holy Smokes Dr. Peterson. “I speak out because I know the price of silence.” That must be the most profound statement uttered here. It gave me chills hearing her say that.
Yes! It shook me to the core when she said that.
utterly misuttering the word "utter"
Gave me chills too. This whole podcasts makes me realize we can do more and we must. We must protect our freedom. We must protect eachother. We must speak out. "Evil prevails when good people do nothing"
Yes and amen. Powerful words to hold onto.
That hit me so profoundly. She’s so strong and painfully honest. The last thing she’s worried about is being on a kill list. Because she knows being silent is more dangerous for this entire world’s future. We have got to get it together if not we are setting up complete doom for our children. I don’t what to be that kind of ancestor. Thank you Dr. Peterson and Miss Park.
OH MY WORD! I thought my childhood was rough. Not anymore!! It’s all perspective. I can’t even watch this interview more than a few minutes at a time without crying so hard that I can’t hear her words. She is a living miracle.
Her conclusion is tragic : she escaped a totalitarian state, settled in a free society only to witness its coming downfall because of people being brainwashed by political correctness and moral grandstanding.
Marxism always produces tyranny.
It’s a great warning. Truly hope it’s not prophetic
I think you may find out your view is not correct, this country, its people, have overcome much worse...Keep the Faith
❤❤Yeonmi Park, Doctor Peterson
You can fool people that you are a Christian but you can not fool Jesus. True Christians are usually not easily fooled either. They also have compassion and great love for others that is what the gift of God gives us through the Holy Spirit.Not by works, money, fame but the free gift we only must believe. Jesus is the way the truth and the life and that no man comes unto the father except through Jesus Jesus also says you cannot enter the Kingdom of Heaven unless you are born again
Of all of Peterson’s interviews, this is among the greatest.
Agreed
No doubt
True
I agree - what empathy I have seen presented here - thanks to both of them. I was spellbound through most of it.
I agree
One of the things I find so compelling about JP is how readily he weeps at the pain of another, that's the sign of a person who really cares. It's not righteous anger, or indignation or outrage, it's when you feel for someone else's pain.
I am weeping right now. It’s unbelievable to realize this is really happening. And I’m already so aware of the gift of being born in America through no merit of my own (even though I then grew up in South Africa). She is amazing to be able to share.
JP seems to be really compassionate person, might be a good quality for a psychologist to be able to empathize with people.
Respectfully, I disagree. And I think Jordan Peterson has talked about it himself, althought I don't remember when. Yes, him crying shows he cares, but that's not the only way to show that one cares. For instance, mothers tend to cry more with their children, but that doesn't mean that the fathers don't care. One could even argue that to help someone is better; maybe giving food to the hungry while not crying is better than crying with the hungry while doing nothing to help them.
Yea but Oprah can cry if not enough Oscar nominees are the right color skin so there
Crying is wonderful way how the body down regulates and caries toxins out of the body, we highly educated considering it as "weakness and shameful" is so sad and NOT helpful for humanity!
The amount of humanity between these two is unimaginable. Calling the end of this video beautiful would be a massive understatement. Thank you Mrs Park and Dr Peterson.
37:38 I love how JP is so quick to catch Yeonmi when she begins to question her character while she was under such horrific stress and circumstances in NK. Both of y'all are lovely humans ❤️.
One of the reasons I love great psychotherapists
Yeah that was awesome
And you can see how genuine he was from his eyes. It got really red and a bit watery as if to fight back tears. His heart was listening.
That was beautiful. I was in tears almost the entire time. This entire conversation was a gift beyond measure.
Yes, he's a true gentleman ...
"Because I knew the price of silence." What a haunting line. So much fear and truth in one line.
Never cried this much watching an interview before.
I kept shaking my head every time she mentioned the regimes' requirement of its citizen...I am overwhelmed that a govt can be this cruel to its citizen... I am from Nairobi, Kenya and truly I am free...
She is so articulate, strong, and she speaks so well about N. Korean's and what she not only went through but what others are going thru and how sad this is for all who are currently still suffering from a tyranny society and how she cares so much about helping others by speaking out about it. This is shocking and sad story. Im glad she wrote this book so she can look back and then turn to look forward and keep surviving and keep moving ahead.. God Bless Yeonmi Park your a pillar of strength.
What an incredible interview. You are both a gift to the world.
Search this online! Or watch North Korea Uncovered's summary on TH-cam
"The Strange Tale of Yeonmi Park"
A high-profile North Korean defector has harrowing stories to tell. But are they true?
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@@cshelley5658 It doesn't seem as though you actually watched this video. or you would understand why the video you mention is a gross misinterpretation. but hey, you could also just keep copy pasting away I guess.
@@cshelley5658 hey there corporate bot
@@cshelley5658 What is your mission?
Indeed, Dr. Jordan Peterson and Yeonmi Park ripped open hearts 'n soul..., with so much tears.
My God...
I swear i won't complain ever again.
She is a living miracle.
Don't stop complaining. The price of silence is slavery.
Appreciate you guys! 😎🌎❤️
@@yourboyslim348 just depends on what you're complaining about.
You can still complain. Just don't take it too seriously. More like a: "This could've gone better" - moment. I think a lighter way to see our discomforts is a good take away for sure.
The Gadsden Flag represents a willingness to complain about government overreach. F the gov. I’ll never stop complaining until I go at least a full year without noticing regulation in my everyday life.
"Never give up on life, life is a gift". That is the survival instict of all the life on earth.
@Craig David Yes she was suicidal in one point in life, and her hather said : "Never give up on life, life is a gift" , and here she is.
@Craig David
Both is true. Life is a curse for some people. A curse that isn't always impossible to be lifted, but often enough the cure seems unreachable. That's why so many people always say you have to live, because at some point in the future, that cure might come to you in some form.
Personally, I think a person has the right to decide whether they wanna wait for that cure or not but most of life wants to find a way to persist.
She is a testimony of human strenght. She is very inteligent and gifted. I wish her and her family the best
"If you know what 'opressed' means, you are not opressed."
She lived that and worse, and yet has the incredible strength to consider herself lucky,
and instead pittys the state of western education and worrys about the global loss of freedom.
I dont even think this can be put into perspective. Wow...
Such a strong quote.
Or you are being oppressed by those tricking you into believing a perversion of the word oppression... The north Koreans believe they have it good and everyone else in the world is being oppressed by the capitalists.
no, you misunderstood... she doesn't pity us... let me phrase it how it actually is.
She escaped hell in a set of events that can only be deemed beyond lucky, some might even call it an act of God.
As she finally left the hell of being opressed, she comes to the western world where she learns she has to opress herself in the highest levels of education. The core of the society. Imagine what this does to her.
Being at the university was exactly how they forced them back in North Korea to not think, to blindly believe lies, to have guilt by association. all this PC garbage. It's all communist ideology.
She realised, that she never truely escaped that hell-hole, but in a spiritual way and because she literally LIVED it... imagine how fucking distraught she must have been at the realisation of "I actually never escaped".
Think about that one. I mean, go back and listen that's literally what she said, but with other words.
@@siegpasta so true, universities are now telling people how they should think. Very very dangerous.
@@siegpasta no, the problem is that she escaped, and is watching her new adopted home choose to become the same kind of nightmare willfully. The terror is not that her current situation is as bad as her former, quite the opposite, but that she has to watch her current situation deteriorate, and yet there is no where else to run. There is no longer a free world to run to. You will know how bad it is, because you will watch them take everything from you, and you have no where else to go.
This should be mandatory viewing for everyone. We spend so much arguing about such trivial matters when there is so much more important things happening in the world
So true
Great job 👏 go watch yeonmi park to save North Korea that need to be freed $
Agreed
💯
@Lee you make a good point. I'm on your side now
Dr Peterson hosting the interview is SOOO important, as he is a student of humanities atrocities. he knows the words she speaks are true and the mindset. no other host could pull this off without dumb questions or sensationalizing it
The heartbreaking thing is that he cries but keeps going because if he stops she'll continue to cry.
💯💯💯
Life changing
Joe Rogan could probably pull this interview off, but Jordan hits the topics from a completely different aspect.
@@josh12508 i disagree on rogan
Jordan Peterson and Yeonmi Park. Both national treasures.
"How do you fight to be free, when you don't even know you're a slave?"
God. Bone chilling. God bless you two.
No word for "slave" or "free", no word for "love" except love for Dear Leader. No globe, no history, no internet...
And that's what our dear SJW brothers and sisters want to impose on US. Think about that next time they say "It's just about being considerate." or "What's the harm?"
“All I’m offering is the truth”
“What truth?”
“That you are a slave Neo. That like everyone else you were born into bondage. Born into a prison that you cannot smell or taste or touch. A prison for your mind”
I was having a “terrible” last two days due to struggling in my career and where I am in my life. After listening to Yeonmi story I realized my life compared to hers is no struggle at all. Living in the America’s we vastly take our freedom and in particular women’s freedom for granted...thank you Yeonmi for your story ❤️
Well some say that its not you who struggless.....but your true self struggles...or yor soul.... Abraham Hicks said that your inner self (soul) is always happy, ... its source of happines.... so you dont struggle because you of some outer problem/anxiety... or whatever but because your inner self is not allowed to express the happiness, calmess creativity, to show you to be happy and express itself....... Your inner self is in prison, but it has nothing to do with some other details as electricity bill or conflict with neighbor whatever.
@@alaalfa8839 thank you for your wise words! I definitely feel like this 👍🏽
@@mitchelljeffrey9632 thanks for your kind words ☺️
Exactly! People should occasionally go on gore websites and see the REAL NEWS that is never shown and hidden from public view
Well said. As a fellow Canadian to Jordan I really relate to his mind and heart.
"if you know you're oppressed, you're not oppressed."
This gave me chills.
@@dehistoriapisciumfish7639 Listen to her story, she didn’t escape because she knew the system was shit, it wasn’t for freedom because she didn’t even know what that was
She went there because she was starving and hoped to find rice to eat
@@dehistoriapisciumfish7639 Ah I see, you’re a leftist
@@dehistoriapisciumfish7639 I think the comparison Park is trying to draw is that there’s a difference between true oppression and 1st world oppression
Great job 👏 go watch yeonmi park to save North Korea that need to be freed
I don't think it's a very accurate statement though. I'm sure the millions of people in the gulags all across the soviet union knew they were being oppressed.
Watching this changes you. Be grateful for what you have. I’m struggling for words right now
It’s astonishing how she can explain the darkest parts of humanity and still find hope in it. I’m in tears
Not only hope, but love. In the deepest darkest pits of humanity she is able to see love in that person. Like the missionaries. Or her captor that bought her.
You defined Shostakovich's no. 10 Symphony.
It was so crazy to think that in 2008, i was 11, watching The Dark Knight in theaters with my dad, while she was 14 & the burying the ashes of _her_ dad.
"Happiness can be found, even in the
darkest of times, if one only remembers
to turn on the light.' -
Albus Dumbledore
I cried like I have never cried before. Freedom is so fragile and we take it for granted every single day. Thank you Yeonmi for sharing your story, Thank you Dr. Petersen for using your platform to always speak Truth. 🙏
Great job 👏 go watch yeonmi park to save North Korea that need to be freed from 4
Mrs. Cruz , you weren't alone with your tears. I cried and cried like a baby and seeing Dr. Peterson feeling her emotions just opened the floodgates even more for me. You're so right in saying that we take freedom for granted. I believe that this video should be mandatory in schools
Freedom IS fragile and yet many people across the globe voluntarily gave it up yet again. I’m referring to the current global events. It broke my heart to see the society being split into two groups, brainwashed by the mainstream media. It scared me. It scared me because my country was oppressed by a totalitarian system for 50 years and my family fought for freedom. It’s very, very scary at the moment but we must speak up. As Yeonmi said: “the alternative to that is worse’.
For real. Same here. Crying several times. Perspective.
I admit that I didn't cry PHYSICAL tears...but I did cry BUCKETS of MENTAL tears...and I'm what you would consider a manly man type. I wish there was something I could do to help her...but I think the only thing she would consider as help would be to kill off the NK regime. Shame on China for NOT doing exactly that...and, in fact, doing the exact opposite.
When they both start crying together, it gives me such hope - there is a soul to soul connection here because JBP knows communist literature inside out by his own admission and it resonates with what he's read. You can tell how deeply it pains him. God bless you both. May your voices humble those who are arrogant to think they can live what they don't understand.
Thank you for writing this comment. I wish I could like your comment more than one time.
Timestamp?
Search this online! Or watch North Korea Uncovered's summary on TH-cam
"The Strange Tale of Yeonmi Park"
A high-profile North Korean defector has harrowing stories to tell. But are they true?
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I cried with them too
I've read some Auschwitz testimonials and lately I've been ungrateful for many things in my life. I had to pause the video a handful of times because it was just too much to take in.
My life is fucking awesome, I'll try not to complain ever again damn.
@@lancedolphmalsi8146 I believe the comment is talking about the conversation that starts at 45:20 where she talks about what happened to her father...
OMG i am disgusted with myself after fighting in gulf war one and tours of bosnia for this shower we call Democracy i am ashamed and this interview has confirmed my fear that we are in a dark place. Thankyou Yeonmi for sharing your journey this has touched me and inspired me and for shining a light on reality and JP for his continued truth telling. My hope is we can get behind a real leader very soon who can put the west back on the right path !
I grew up in Soviet Union, and I had my appenix removed without anesthesia, no sleepimg pills either. I was fully awake for about 90 min, strapped to the operating table. I was 18 years old, will never forget this experience. Also, I never had a shots during any dental work, until we made it to the US when I was a young adult. Gives me chills to listen to this brave lady 😢😢😢
American leftists dream of everyone having this for free.
If you don’t mind, what methods did you use to recover from the trauma?
Where in the Soviet Union was this going on?
@@charleskulvet4911 In the USSR there was no such thing…I only told my sister (future doctor) how much pain I endured. I knew nothing about anesthesia at that time, so I thought that’s how it was…I didn’t think it was a trauma, just a part of life in ‘workers’ paradise’.
@@badballiance87 We lived in Leningrad. This surgery was performed at the teaching hospital , affiliated with one of the two Medical schools in the city (#2, named after Dr. Mechnikov, I think).
This is heartbreaking. Every young person needs to watch this.
It’s terrifying. Terrifying because this is EXACTLY what’s happening in the West. And it’s possibly past the point of no return.
The west is too busy being 'oppressed' with the wrong pronouns and too many white people in a car advert
*everyone needs to watch this
@@5atoru we're sure you would know more than Dr. Peterson and we're also sure you understand who deserves a platform.
All ages need to watch
Seeing him so devastated over what's happening in the universities is just heart wrenching
The Dr. is a true interlectual. It IS heartwrenching to the world if our universities become breeding ground for propaganda rather than free thought.
I don't know how I haven't seen this conversation with Dr.Peterson and Yeonmi Park before now, but I am so glad I came across it. What an absolutely insightful and thought provoking discussion to witness. Alot of the issues Yeonmi discussed are even more poignant today in 2024 than ever. Thank you both for letting us all have a chance to see a glimpse of humanity in its rawness. It certainly reached into my soul. God bless you both.
Great to see Yeonmi on here!
Good to see you here too. Keep it up kiddo!
Yeah!
Hey there China Uncensored!!! Glad to see here you too! Say hi to Tiffany Mier for us, great work she does for NTD China in Focus!
You know..... now that I see You here, a colab whit JP would be amaizing!!!1!
Wow!, I didn't expect to see you guys here!. A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one
It really hit me that after starving under a dictatorship, being sold as a sex slave, torture, and abuse she had to come to a US university to learn to self censor. It struck me how bad things are. I broke down into tears and haven’t been able to recover from the thought.
Well said.
you can do something about it by learning and speaking.
lol
Me too. All I could think about was the immense irony and thought, "She's come full circle".
I know Joshua, it's sad. And people complain about living here where we have FREEDOM! BLESSINGS my friend!
Why has this young woman not been given the Woman Of The Year award? An amazing young woman.
she'll have to change her mind and support totalitarianism to get that award.
Because she's a biological female
Because China wouldn't like that
because she's doesn't have genders in her fluids or something like that
I have never heard about her, actually. I am ashamed to say that.
This interview is shocking to the core. And illuminating at the same time.
I wish too that I had just one professor like Jordan. I don't think I would've dropped university. Twice.
Thank you Jordan and thank you Yeonmi. From the bottom of my heart I wish both good health
As a South Korean, I'm ashamed of the discrimination she experienced in South Korea. We need to educate ourselves.
I thought s.korea meant heaven for them, but then i became hopeless when she mentioned that 2 north Koreans died in Seoul from hunger. Man how cruel this world is!
❤️
As a German I hope you can one day welcome your northern brothers and sisters back into your country. I know it seems impossible to happen right now, but if the opportunity ever presents itself I hope the people of the south will have heart and courage to face all of the difficulties that come with reuniting a people that was torn apart for decades.
Human nature sadly, though it turned out to be a good practice for a ever growing soul.
@@Barwasser
Unlikely, because S. Korea is a US allie. The US will never side with N.Korea unless it’s overhauled. Or unless the democrats won and hand the rest of us of us to China (China has a grip on n Korea)
“The Suicide of Civilization” That’s her take on the American Education System. Very telling and it deeply worries me.
It's actually terrifying.
Forcing the masses to obtain their protein from bugs makes North Korea seem like a model example for sustainability.
@@bubbajones6907 cute
Wow.."if you think you are oppressed, you are not oppressed" ...so profound! So unbelievable that people live like this in 2021.
And that from a person who escaped from North Korea.
Dr Peterson is a deeply passionate and compassionate person.
His sincerity with his angst about what has happened to western education is a profound statement about this tragedy.
@Vasileios Voutsinos you must be fun at parties... at communist parties that is.
@Vasileios Voutsinos where you're fact how is she a liar?
@Vasileios Voutsinos link source please give me proof.
@Vasileios Voutsinos how convenient fine I'll see.
@Vasileios Voutsinos I have question for you in your TH-cam account how come you don't have liked videos giving the fact you be on TH-cam for 8 years?
Ms.Park, you are one of the most courageous beings ever created. Blessings to you 🙏🏼 and Mr Peterson.
Unbelievable. This podcast just should be translated to other languages!
Broadcast to the Middle East, Uyghar China, and BLM riots.
I’m afraid that books and videos of JBP will be blocked by CCP soon.
Couldn't agree with you more...@DariaDobszai
@@SuperDachshund
Deluded BLM and ANTIFA Are Marxist-Leninist Agenda Enablers.
@@coiledsteel8344 Exactly my point. This is what these morons are fighting for!
It's amazing that she keeps saying, "nobody is completely evil", when it comes to her enslaver and the missionary. The whole tale is so soul-shaking.
stark contrast to all the progressives who never had a hardship in life but are so quick to call everyone an evil nazi
I think soul shaking is the perfect way of describing the magnitude of this interview, well said
This might be the most important interview done by anyone in the last decade
It's sad that you say that, because it only shows you haven't seen all the other most important interviews of the decade.
I still suprise this is still on you...tube
I like the Lex one w her best
tbh every interview with her has to be up there.
@@amjan like what