Thanks Dan and Kika for the great video - you totally nailed it. Lots more Dazcat videos on our Dazcat Catamaran You Tube for anyone interested in fast cruiser-racer type multihulls.
What an awesome opportunity and great experience!!!! I love that you love your Uma but are also not stuck in the monohull-only bubble mind set, and just love to experience multiple things. Also I must add: this might be the Best “review” I’ve see so far. you actually showed us what this boat is made for instead of just standing and talking about it. That is a propper endorsement for dazcat !
It was really great to see Kika and Dan's first time 'fast sailing' on one of our cats. It took them awhile to get over the surprise of the difference of it all but totally got the cat thing in the end! We were lucky that we got the wind so they could really experience it...
@@DazcatCatamarans sadly I have not been on a cat myself, however I have seen several videos from other channels, where their catamarans just break apart during long passages, no doubt they would break on a passage similar to this one. It would be interesting to see how a boat like this handles a longer passage such as the Atlantic crossing.
@@noahbruket5906 as with everything there are different purposes and pluses or minuses for every boat in different situations... our boats have frequently crossed the Atlantic! Here are a couple of videos you might enjoy - the first is a gentle cruise across from the Canaries to Portugal and up the coast then across Biscay. The second is racing in the Caribbean with the oldest crew in the race (86, 70, 59, 52, 50!) with winds up to 40 knots and many boats in difficulties...we also had to retire but not because of the boat,,,but after the race the 86 year old owner sailed back to the UK with one of the crew and a couple of other friends! I think you might enjoy the story and drama in this video. I hope you get to sail and enjoy a catamaran soon. I'd only sailed monohulls, all my life, until I started working with Dazcat. I'm a full multihull convert now! Dazcat 1195 From La Palma to Falmouth 2018:th-cam.com/video/jZo5H3aBinE/w-d-xo.html Dazcat 14 Dazzla in Caribbean 600: th-cam.com/video/udVM32CHCyw/w-d-xo.html
@@ek9772 I also was looking for the speeds. In my 20s I skippered a 23-foot Tempest (Olympic class) with.a planing hull. It is exhilarating to get up on a plane sailing down a big wave, but the little Tempest could take a knock-down and pop right back up , and it was self-bailing through the scuppers. It was not, of course, a cruiser, but safety would be a top consideration for Kika. Not sure about Dan!
Really appreciate Dan's descriptions of the boat & the feel, around 11:30 and again later. It's the detail that gives richness to the audio, similarly to focus in the video. Increases our understanding, gives us a sense of being a part of the journey. Thanks so much!
I think nothing bad can be said about the two of you. I'm new to this on TH-cam. I do love seeing young beautiful couples such as yourselves living life to the fullest. God speed on your life's journey beautiful man and woman.
Thank you English Skipper for taking these two young American Varmits on a Catamaran cruise; they do wonderful videos and I enjoyed being with all of you - as well as I can be!!!!!!!!!
Guys UMA has taken us to many places, A long way from the couch sometimes we need to just sit back and learn. If you've done it share it , if not ask how and if you need a hand learning start reading. Sailing is one of the oldest transportation in the world other than walking. Thx Uma for sharing ~~
Sailboat design is evolving so fast right now, it is hard to keep up. This is the first close up view of a multi-hull I have come across, and I am impressed. The fast multi-hulls I have seen videos of had very little cabin area visible, whereas this one has a sizable cabin on top of the hulls, plus berths in the hulls. And very fast sailing. for sure.
The Dazcats are designed as fast cruisers that can also be raced, and very often win. If you want a really good look, here's us winning the 2017 Fastnet race while dining in style! th-cam.com/video/EA8TL4372zY/w-d-xo.html
That was without doubt the best cat video I have seen. Good on you for going out in that weather and doing a proper evaluation. Shows the gulf between performance cats and cruising cats. Nice job!
So you liked the sail on the CAT along the coast of England. You need to try a trimaran. I built my 41' Trimaran. up in Wisconsin, and sailed it down the Mississippi to the Gulf. Then across the Gulf to Florida. The best thing about the trimaran is that when you are on a broad reach, and you get hit by a gust, the boat didn't heel.....it just accelerated. I built my boat with a captains chair, and when we got that gust of wind, I was pushed back against the back of the seat. Just like punching a 600 HP supercar. That is a cool feeling in a sailboat.
I just spent the past two weeks getting current with the last 4 ish years of your lives. It's been an amazing journey. I'm actually from about ten minutes away from where you picked Uma up. I love the mix of sailing and work you manage to get in your videos, the only thing I'm less fond of is that recently you've been putting more emphasis on eye candy shots at the cost of telling your story. The two of you and Uma are the story, the places you go are just the back drop. Keep following your dreams they will never steer you wrong.
I just watched this step. Although I am old now and live in Dallas, I grew up in Weymouth. It was great to see you pull into Weymouth harbour vith a view of the Nothe Fort. I learned to sail in Weymouth Bay in a 12' dinghy we built at school. Very nostalgic for me!
The English pretty much pioneered the present day Cruising/racing catamaran, but today French are so good at it that one would not know history of Multihulls in UK. Its great to see a well balanced multihull designed and built in UK. And btw it seems you were in company of some very experienced sailors, out there in such conditions with total confidence.
I read somewhere that some of Sir Francis Drake's ships anchored in the calm area behind where the tidal race at Portland kicks up. Some ships from the Spanish Armada, not realising it was a trap, thought they were sitting ducks and sailed toward them. As they approached the tidal race suddenly kicked up and swamped the Spanish ships. Local knowledge is a wonderful thing!!
Draw a equilateral triangle and placing the words ‘Fast’, ‘Spacious’ and ‘Inexpensive’ at each apex of the triangle. If a marker is placed in the triangle you’ll soon see that as you move closer to any one apex you move further away from the other two. To get a fast catamaran, you sacrifice inexpensive and spacious. Dazcats are very fast, very expensive and not nearly as spacious as the other cats they mentioned.
If you come to Southampton again. Itchen marine is a low cost marina. Near the city center. There is a wood shop on site with table saws and such if you want to do more wood work.
Great video! Dazcats are great boats, extremely well made, by people who know what they’re doing. In the thirty years they have been making cats, I believe every one of their boats is still in use, and a good number of them race regularly.
Hi What a great experience. The Portland Race is a notorious piece of water in the Uk summer, so hats off to the guys for showing you the inshore route. Not something you would want to do on your own after reading a sailing guide in the middle of winter...lol
Hi, you two, I am new here. I had a big grin on my face as Dan described the new catamaran designs floating apartments. They are, in my eyes, an insult to catamarans. My wife and I lived and sailed on our catamaran for 11 years. (between 1990 and 2001) A fast 11 m catamaran. My design, I have designed them for 42 years. No, no, I do not design houseboats. I design real catamarans. A reason I did not get rich with my design work. Yes, you two, fast sailing can be safe and fun. And yes, Kika, you feel every change in the boat's behavior more direct than on a monohull. This is part of the fun and a safety point. Now? I have to watch the next of your videos. They are simple, the best here on TH-cam.
Man what a ride that must have been! I kept waiting for it to "pitch pole" when she would slam her bow beneath a wave, but it just went on crashing through! Very exciting and scary too!
We've sailed in force 10 winds off the north coast of Scotland - no pitch poling on a Dazcat unless the helm is very silly, and that's the same on any boat...
Cats are definitely MY STYLE, I love comfort, stability, and safety. I grew up with monohulls, love to sail for sure, but cats just are so much better at getting into places a mono can never go, and I can safely beach a cat and enjoy the beach and isolated locations. It's just an all-around better option for me. I loved this video. I vote for MORE CATS please, LOL!!!!
That cat was flying along with a second reef and then I hear you say had they been racing then the sails would be out more and the boat would be doing 20 knots! Wow. Thanks for sharing. Cheers!
David C I think the 'race' dan was referring to was the race off Portland bill , where the water from the strong tidal current makes for very ugly water! You could see it in the video. ( I watched again and he was referring to racing I think) Cheer s Warren
@@CheersWarren that particular boat is used for both family cruising (the owners have two young children) and also offshore and inshore racing. Simon and his brother Matt who were on board with Dan and Kika are hard-core racers and often win. You can check out lots of videos of all our boats racing and cruising on our channel.
Taking the inside route around Portland Bill! The Cape Horn of British sailing, a Bermuda Triangle of sorts. Those tidal rips and overfalls can be intimidating aye! Well done :-) Cheers
I'ts a DazCat made in the UK by Multimarine. There a a few made now and seem to win everything the race in. A bit basic inside the price you pay for a true racer. There are quite a few TH-cam videos already uploaded.
I love sailing light sport catamarans, usually a Hobie 16. We love sailing on a close reach and beam reach. So fun ripping upwind at 24 knots! We aren't so good downwind without a Spinnaker
Gunboat next? Would have liked a pan of the interior but thats okay as the whole point , if I got it right, was your experience on the cat. Awesome vid.
The bows really seem to bury deep into those waves. I’m no expert but the Dazcats seem to have more weight forward then other performance catamarans. Gunboat, Outremer, HH, Marsaudon and Schionning all have their main salon/bridge deck and engines placed farther aft. They appear to have much longer bows and trampolines making them less likely to pitch pole in extreme conditions.
As I understand it, this Dazcat that they were on was 'only' 42.5 ft long. Most of the boats from Gunboat, Outremer, HH and Marsaudon are longer than that. Now some four years later HH has launched their new HH44. Yachting World has a sailing review of one of those in much nicer weather than this, but you can clearly see that it has a similar motion. And the O'Kelly's now have video of an Atlantic crossing with a new O55 that Nick didn't find particularly comfortable due to the sea state during large parts of that crossing... If you sail in certain conditions you are going to get motion similar to this even if you're on a 55 ft long new Outremer or some such...
I live on my sailing boat on the Dart (the next river inlet up from Plymouth) I wish I had known you guys were over here I'd have loved to meet you. You should sail over hede in the summer as the waters around the UK are beautiful during spring and summer Devon and Cornwall to name 2, lots of tradition in the town's to vlog about and plenty of fun in the summer with lots and lots of events all over. Anyways I'm hoping to set off around the world asap.
That's a thoroughbred racing catamaran...I sail similar level racer/cruiser monohulls, 64', and 42', you were coasting, you'll know all about it when you power that sort of boat up in 30 knots true breeze, we fly asymmetrics in that when racing (South African coast) Good fun sail😁😁😁
Ever seen a Wharram design? There are a large number options. You get as much or as little as you put into it. Keep it simple and light, and get the flexibility and speed that affords, or load it down and make it an oceangoing luxury condo. Definitely different than the typical cats you see everywhere.
I'm a Volvo ocean and open 60ties fan but for sheer speed and on the edge sailing the extreme 40ties (cats) are a race series worth watching. However i remember what ans old salt once told me, mono hulls are most stable when they are "hove to" and a cat is most stable when they are upside down.
True, but a mono can sink and you're relegated to surviving in a shitty liferaft. However, a multi can be prepared beforehand to be relatively comfortable if in the unlikely event you capsize.
You should sail a small- say 20' performance cat with trapeze for the two crew to hang out off of the hull. They are very fast and a great deal of fun. With the rigging singing in the wind and the water rushing underneath you while you are hiked out and throwing rooster tails off the rudders is a real rush. I loved the big cat to Thanks.
john mccormick 31 years, sailed through all conditions - often pushing hard for winning races, very very few breakages ever and fantastic safety record. Check out some of our You Tube videos...th-cam.com/channels/MPoF_KJsQrpYtjSM6-IxgQ.htmlvideos
15:44 Wow, what a ride! Of all the cats you said you would NOT want to sail in gnarly conditions (Lagoon, Fontaine Pajot, etc.), I was surprised to hear you include the Outremer. I wish you would expound upon that.
That wasn’t a direct jab at Outremer, more a comment on new production boats in general, we’ve been in many and they all seem to fall apart too quickly, not the hulls or rig, but the finishes, hardware etc just don’t hold up well to full time cruising.
Sailing Uma I commented elsewhere on this page that there has been at least one second gen Outremer where a large section of the fiberglass on the port hull delaminated and came off while cruising.
Another bonus is that if you went electric in a catamara like this that is happy to go 15 knots, generating though the prop is exponentially better the faster you go and having 2 props generating power is even better.
@@joeblow1942 they don't yet, but with some modification it could be, although it would be better with a prop that could be feathered to appropriate pitch for regeneration.
@@alexhamon9261 Yeah, it would be a shame to put non feathering props on sailing machine like the Daz. But wow, if you could generate power underway as needed and then feather the props when done that would be awesome.
@@joeblow1942 it's expensive but Oceanvolt makes electric drives like this. Can be adjusted for optimum power forward and reverse, or best power generation, and when the batteries are full they automatically adjust to minimize drag. Would be limited on Uma by monohull hull speed but over distance would still make plenty enough to charge batteries under sail. Like they said on a fast catamaran, 2000-3000 watts at a comfortable speed of 10 knots.
Cat sailing is awesom! I have raced and cruised them. Your general comment on cat's sailing performance I think is partially wrong! Outremer is a vessel that can sail in any condition with a trained crew. I sailed my FP Athena 38 through the BC and had up to 50 kn winds averaging 12-13 kn and top speed of 23 kn. No sqeeking and pleasant movement of the boat.
I want to sail as a live aboard so I can travel and I love the idea of a catamaran, but not having to fill one with fuel to travel. Nice to know that some actually sail ⛵️. It would be perfect if some exist with electric propulsion like Uma.
You're a right. This is the most sailing I have seen on a YTB channel of any cats. Perhaps they are not posted as often, and certainly not on those seas. Kinda weird to see the water rushing past between hulls so fast. I wish it would have been warmer. Great video. Fair winds.
Cowes to Weymouth via the Needles channel, then round the bill at Portland (inner passage) across Lyme bay and down the coast to Plymouth. Done it many times! That's real sailing. If you have done it you know what boat you would want to be in and speed through the water wins every time. Although the armchair sailors will be choking on their Horlicks, and kicking off their uniboot footwarmers to shout at the TV right now 🤣🤣Fair play to you guys for telling it how it is! Sail Safe. Ant, Cid & the Pooch crew.
A very nice boat. I never got to sail a big cat, only the small 2 man racing types, but it looked like you could really crank it up. The spec is great but the price is high. I had a look at the spec of there big one the 1895 and that is amazing a real ocean racer with luxury accommodation, but a price tag of £3M+!
Great fun.... appears the bow should be raised to cut the waves instead of doing the submarine thing.... you would get not only another knot or two but a much smoother ride.
Hey monosnobs! There was actually a compliment for this cat in there! Suggest to stay away from sweeping generalizations of almost all major cat manufacturers if you haven't tested them properly i.e. in adverse conditions. It doesn't reflect well on you.
Interesting that the Outremer didn't pass muster for you. They claim to be /racing/cruising cats, and SV LaVagabonde (Outremer 45) as well as a few other I follow which are from different builders all seem to fair well in rough seas states...
They do seem to sail well. And the few we've been on are well laid out. They just all seem to have similar issues with finish and not holding up to the wear and tear of cruising life.
It's true. I saw an episode before I stopped watching la vaga where he had to put an interior panel back in that was simply falling out and another where he was chasing squeaks. There was a lack of skill apparent too but that's what happens when you dont "know your boat" from having it for decades or refitting it yourself.
yo guys welcome to 2020 are you both getting acclimatized to our weather or is that just a brave face for the camera WOW what an amazing boat could tell you were surprised at the agility of it liking the diversity you present on your channel allways something new but entertaining {:-) PAV uk
@@msnpassjan2004 Right! Even though I was amazed by the Wharrams before sailing Lyckyfish - afterwards, there are so many thought through details in the design I would like to see in other designs, but not finding. Like the wing sail schooner rigg!
This vid has raised some serious questions for me as a 73yr old singlehanded cat sailor. Do I upgrade to a bigger and can I handle it singlehanded. (currently sailing an Iroquois Mk2 30ft out of Dartmouth.) (Surprised you overnighted in Weymouth unless you needed the onshore delights)
John Foster - why don't you pop down and visit us, we're only in Millbrook just across the Tamar. We'd love to meet and chat with you. And yes, Dazcats can be singlehanded. Also, our oldest owner is 87. You might enjoy this video of him racing in the RORC Caribbean 600 in 2018 th-cam.com/video/udVM32CHCyw/w-d-xo.html
There are only a handful of builders in the world that can deliver a Cat with the performance pedigree of a Racer while successfully integrating the important features needed in a livable cruiser (without adding additional tonnage). You traditionally think to look in Australia & New Zealand down-under, then France in Europe... Dazcat holds the crown for the UK and would likely spank any Outremer 50!
It was good to just watch a sailing video for a change. I had heard that sailing around England can be in very rough seas. What was the temp outside you both look cold? Happy Trails
I did a passage on a new Outremer 45 some 3 years ago, from south of France to Tunisia and back. Was kinda “visa run” for the boat, as well as showing the owner what she could do. Top speed was just over 25 knots. We sailed a full day almost never below 20 knots. Mostly one reef and full jib. We did push the boat, but anyway, it proves that the Outremer cats can go properly fast, if they’re not stuffed full of shit. I’ve never tested the Dazcats, but I’m pretty certain that this one could also push about the same speeds, perhaps even more. Looks light. Minimum weight is extremely important for speed, on any boat, but especially on a light cat.
Never said they can’t do it... only said I would be nervous going that fast in that sea state. They’re definitely fast boats. We’ve just seen them not hold up well to the rigours of full time cruising. Most boats don’t. They’re not designed or built too. We’re not bashing Outremer, just new boats in general aren’t built to last more than a few years before needed serious maintenance.
@Sailing Uma. I think most people are not aware of how hard it is on a boat to cruise full time. Also they’re not aware of how flimsy “normal” consumer products are. Like cars. They might be high quality, but drive a Mercedes nonstop for a month. How much of it would be operational? Not much! And then do it for two years nonstop... That’s just the start of a long distance boats life. As we customers keep asking for home comforts afloat, and steadily more bling, we’ll end up with vulnerable boats, no matter what the builder tries to do. Simple is always better...
If you get past Denmark, you should have a chat with Quorning Boats. They produce some pretty fine trimarans, where it is the joy of sailing that has 1. Priority.
What a great video. Good to see the comparison of cat vs. monohull. Never sailed a cat (of any size) before. Can't imagine what it is like to NOT hear the Pearson creak! If you can find where she's rubbing, blow in some talcum powder. That will quiet her down.
Guys that was a great video but other cats can be almost as fun. In my Fountaine Pajot 44 I did many long passages and often encountered similar conditions to what you showed and the boat was amazingly fast, safe and comfortable. For sure cruising cats will not sail upwind well, but down wind they can really fly and actually feel safer and more stable when surfing. Reaching 20 knots was not unusual. Good luck with your travels.
Exactly. Down wind is great. Which is why many choose a cat for trade wind sailing. We like to go other places and with electric motors, good upwind sailing traits are a must, which is why we’ve never really considered a cat before. Also surfing speeds and sailing speeds are two very different things. We’ve surfed at 18kts on Uma before but rarely sail faster than about 6.5-7kt average. Most cats can’t sail at 20kts. Even the top performing cats tend to average closer to 15-20 even though they can certainly go faster in perfect conditions.
@ Interesting and thanks for the info. I suppose with todays modern lines, like Spectra and Dyneema that the connections would be much better. Chafe would be a killer regardless of the type of line used though.
always a good video. love your work. Hi im islandboy and i am a sailing vessel video youtube binger. Rolling and liking my way through your videos. enjoying.
There are some deceptively heavy sea's around the UK south coast, not for the faint hearted. I believe that was a Dazcat 1495, for anyone looking for information.
It's 5 pm right now and you start your video by saying good morning🙂. I will always say hello friends or something similar when I start my youtube videos😀
We're very used to the motion on Uma so we don't really notice anymore. But the motion on the cat was definitely different and hard for us to get used to in such a short amount of time. So we really can't say.
@@SailingUma first time I sailed on a Dazcat I was quite worried, and also taken by surprise - I worked on boats for years and never got sick but for awhile on my first catamaran sails it felt like I might. I didn't, and got used to it pretty quickly but yes, it's definitely different!
Y’all should go to South Africa and see the new Leper’s and meet the captain who sails them out in 30-50 nots. The newer cat are better for speed and handling now
It would be informative for most viewers if you were able to try catamarans under various conditions. This one was arguably necessary, but extreme, and the boat appeared to perform well. Skeptics say that, if the sheets jam and a multihull capsizes, it will not right itself like a keeled monohull will.
My old sailing area - great to see it all again. But I have never made it all the way to Plymouth from Cowes that fast. That was amazing! Great video once again, guys. Happy New Year.
Hey, was that a silly walk right there at the end, Dan? If so, it could have been much sillier! : - ) Beside that, this was an interesting Step. I've never sailed on a cat so it's kind of hard to relate. But I do watch LaVagabonde. My idea from them is that they are sailing a house (boat) with sails. It would be cool to have the specs on this Daz cat. I didn't here them mentioned. It looked narrower than a typical cat. ? ? ? Scott W
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Thanks Dan and Kika for the great video - you totally nailed it. Lots more Dazcat videos on our Dazcat Catamaran You Tube for anyone interested in fast cruiser-racer type multihulls.
@@ianrkav Dazcat is the design and they are built by Multimarine Manufacturing in Cornwall, UK www.multihullcentre.com/multimarine/
What an awesome opportunity and great experience!!!! I love that you love your Uma but are also not stuck in the monohull-only bubble mind set, and just love to experience multiple things. Also I must add: this might be the Best “review” I’ve see so far. you actually showed us what this boat is made for instead of just standing and talking about it. That is a propper endorsement for dazcat !
It was really great to see Kika and Dan's first time 'fast sailing' on one of our cats. It took them awhile to get over the surprise of the difference of it all but totally got the cat thing in the end! We were lucky that we got the wind so they could really experience it...
@@DazcatCatamarans sadly I have not been on a cat myself, however I have seen several videos from other channels, where their catamarans just break apart during long passages, no doubt they would break on a passage similar to this one. It would be interesting to see how a boat like this handles a longer passage such as the Atlantic crossing.
@@noahbruket5906 as with everything there are different purposes and pluses or minuses for every boat in different situations... our boats have frequently crossed the Atlantic! Here are a couple of videos you might enjoy - the first is a gentle cruise across from the Canaries to Portugal and up the coast then across Biscay. The second is racing in the Caribbean with the oldest crew in the race (86, 70, 59, 52, 50!) with winds up to 40 knots and many boats in difficulties...we also had to retire but not because of the boat,,,but after the race the 86 year old owner sailed back to the UK with one of the crew and a couple of other friends! I think you might enjoy the story and drama in this video. I hope you get to sail and enjoy a catamaran soon. I'd only sailed monohulls, all my life, until I started working with Dazcat. I'm a full multihull convert now!
Dazcat 1195 From La Palma to Falmouth 2018:th-cam.com/video/jZo5H3aBinE/w-d-xo.html
Dazcat 14 Dazzla in Caribbean 600: th-cam.com/video/udVM32CHCyw/w-d-xo.html
Dazcat Catamarans would you know the hull and planing speeds?
@@ek9772 I also was looking for the speeds. In my 20s I skippered a 23-foot Tempest (Olympic class) with.a planing hull. It is exhilarating to get up on a plane sailing down a big wave, but the little Tempest could take a knock-down and pop right back up , and it was self-bailing through the scuppers. It was not, of course, a cruiser, but safety would be a top consideration for Kika. Not sure about Dan!
Serious winds, serious swell, serious speed, serious fun, seriously jealous!
This is easily my favourite episode... Look at the CAT fly! That boat is raw sailing! Love it!
Really appreciate Dan's descriptions of the boat & the feel, around 11:30 and again later. It's the detail that gives richness to the audio, similarly to focus in the video. Increases our understanding, gives us a sense of being a part of the journey. Thanks so much!
I think nothing bad can be said about the two of you. I'm new to this on TH-cam. I do love seeing young beautiful couples such as yourselves living life to the fullest. God speed on your life's journey beautiful man and woman.
Glad you got to experience the difference between a real sailing cat & the floating apartments. Fun fun fun..
Thank you English Skipper for taking these two young American Varmits on a Catamaran cruise; they do wonderful videos and I enjoyed being with all of you - as well as I can be!!!!!!!!!
No Americans were harmed (or even involved) in the making of this video. A Canadian and a Haitian were on said cruise with the English folk.
@@justchillinout2002 What a relief!!!! I stand corrected!
Guys UMA has taken us to many places, A long way from the couch sometimes we need to just sit back and learn. If you've done it share it , if not ask how and if you need a hand learning start reading. Sailing is one of the oldest transportation in the world other than walking. Thx Uma for sharing ~~
You're very welcome Wayne!! Thanks for your comments and kind words.
Sailboat design is evolving so fast right now, it is hard to keep up. This is the first close up view of a multi-hull I have come across, and I am impressed. The fast multi-hulls I have seen videos of had very little cabin area visible, whereas this one has a sizable cabin on top of the hulls, plus berths in the hulls. And very fast sailing. for sure.
The Dazcats are designed as fast cruisers that can also be raced, and very often win. If you want a really good look, here's us winning the 2017 Fastnet race while dining in style! th-cam.com/video/EA8TL4372zY/w-d-xo.html
That was without doubt the best cat video I have seen. Good on you for going out in that weather and doing a proper evaluation. Shows the gulf between performance cats and cruising cats. Nice job!
So you liked the sail on the CAT along the coast of England. You need to try a trimaran. I built my 41' Trimaran. up in Wisconsin, and sailed it down the Mississippi to the Gulf. Then across the Gulf to Florida. The best thing about the trimaran is that when you are on a broad reach, and you get hit by a gust, the boat didn't heel.....it just accelerated. I built my boat with a captains chair, and when we got that gust of wind, I was pushed back against the back of the seat. Just like punching a 600 HP supercar. That is a cool feeling in a sailboat.
I just spent the past two weeks getting current with the last 4 ish years of your lives. It's been an amazing journey. I'm actually from about ten minutes away from where you picked Uma up. I love the mix of sailing and work you manage to get in your videos, the only thing I'm less fond of is that recently you've been putting more emphasis on eye candy shots at the cost of telling your story. The two of you and Uma are the story, the places you go are just the back drop. Keep following your dreams they will never steer you wrong.
I just watched this step. Although I am old now and live in Dallas, I grew up in Weymouth. It was great to see you pull into Weymouth harbour vith a view of the Nothe Fort.
I learned to sail in Weymouth Bay in a 12' dinghy we built at school. Very nostalgic for me!
The English pretty much pioneered the present day Cruising/racing catamaran, but today French are so good at it that one would not know history of Multihulls in UK. Its great to see a well balanced multihull designed and built in UK. And btw it seems you were in company of some very experienced sailors, out there in such conditions with total confidence.
Love the wind turbine blade at 1:42
Such a mighty vessel - a Cornish wonder. Lovely to see you two out there doing it West-Country style!.
I read somewhere that some of Sir Francis Drake's ships anchored in the calm area behind where the tidal race at Portland kicks up. Some ships from the Spanish Armada, not realising it was a trap, thought they were sitting ducks and sailed toward them. As they approached the tidal race suddenly kicked up and swamped the Spanish ships. Local knowledge is a wonderful thing!!
Draw a equilateral triangle and placing the words ‘Fast’, ‘Spacious’ and ‘Inexpensive’ at each apex of the triangle. If a marker is placed in the triangle you’ll soon see that as you move closer to any one apex you move further away from the other two. To get a fast catamaran, you sacrifice inexpensive and spacious. Dazcats are very fast, very expensive and not nearly as spacious as the other cats they mentioned.
If you come to Southampton again. Itchen marine is a low cost marina. Near the city center. There is a wood shop on site with table saws and such if you want to do more wood work.
Great video! Dazcats are great boats, extremely well made, by people who know what they’re doing. In the thirty years they have been making cats, I believe every one of their boats is still in use, and a good number of them race regularly.
Thanks David Webster - spot on!
Hi
What a great experience. The Portland Race is a notorious piece of water in the Uk summer, so hats off to the guys for showing you the inshore route. Not something you would want to do on your own after reading a sailing guide in the middle of winter...lol
Hi, you two, I am new here. I had a big grin on my face as Dan described the new catamaran designs floating apartments. They are, in my eyes, an insult to catamarans. My wife and I lived and sailed on our catamaran for 11 years. (between 1990 and 2001) A fast 11 m catamaran. My design, I have designed them for 42 years. No, no, I do not design houseboats. I design real catamarans. A reason I did not get rich with my design work. Yes, you two, fast sailing can be safe and fun. And yes, Kika, you feel every change in the boat's behavior more direct than on a monohull. This is part of the fun and a safety point.
Now? I have to watch the next of your videos. They are simple, the best here on TH-cam.
Man what a ride that must have been! I kept waiting for it to "pitch pole" when she would slam her bow beneath a wave, but it just went on crashing through! Very exciting and scary too!
Those bows are designed to punch through and keep going. I hear ya though.
Pretty much what I thought as well. Scary but exciting.
We've sailed in force 10 winds off the north coast of Scotland - no pitch poling on a Dazcat unless the helm is very silly, and that's the same on any boat...
You guys have done so much for UMA, to make it sailable and beautiful inside, but I get the comforts of a catamaran can be alluring.
Comfort, speed and FUN!
I'm not sure I could ever know enough about sailing in order to keep from feeling like I was in this guy's way!
Cats are definitely MY STYLE, I love comfort, stability, and safety. I grew up with monohulls, love to sail for sure, but cats just are so much better at getting into places a mono can never go, and I can safely beach a cat and enjoy the beach and isolated locations. It's just an all-around better option for me. I loved this video. I vote for MORE CATS please, LOL!!!!
That cat was flying along with a second reef and then I hear you say had they been racing then the sails would be out more and the boat would be doing 20 knots! Wow. Thanks for sharing. Cheers!
David C I think the 'race' dan was referring to was the race off Portland bill , where the water from the strong tidal current makes for very ugly water! You could see it in the video. ( I watched again and he was referring to racing I think)
Cheer s Warren
@@CheersWarren that particular boat is used for both family cruising (the owners have two young children) and also offshore and inshore racing. Simon and his brother Matt who were on board with Dan and Kika are hard-core racers and often win. You can check out lots of videos of all our boats racing and cruising on our channel.
Taking the inside route around Portland Bill! The Cape Horn of British sailing, a Bermuda Triangle of sorts. Those tidal rips and overfalls can be intimidating aye! Well done :-) Cheers
I'ts a DazCat made in the UK by Multimarine. There a a few made now and seem to win everything the race in. A bit basic inside the price you pay for a true racer. There are quite a few TH-cam videos already uploaded.
I love sailing light sport catamarans, usually a Hobie 16. We love sailing on a close reach and beam reach. So fun ripping upwind at 24 knots! We aren't so good downwind without a Spinnaker
Perhaps , the best video you have produced.
Bravo to the crew of the cat.
Gunboat next? Would have liked a pan of the interior but thats okay as the whole point , if I got it right, was your experience on the cat. Awesome vid.
The bows really seem to bury deep into those waves. I’m no expert but the Dazcats seem to have more weight forward then other performance catamarans.
Gunboat, Outremer, HH, Marsaudon and Schionning all have their main salon/bridge deck and engines placed farther aft. They appear to have much longer bows and trampolines making them less likely to pitch pole in extreme conditions.
As I understand it, this Dazcat that they were on was 'only' 42.5 ft long. Most of the boats from Gunboat, Outremer, HH and Marsaudon are longer than that. Now some four years later HH has launched their new HH44. Yachting World has a sailing review of one of those in much nicer weather than this, but you can clearly see that it has a similar motion. And the O'Kelly's now have video of an Atlantic crossing with a new O55 that Nick didn't find particularly comfortable due to the sea state during large parts of that crossing... If you sail in certain conditions you are going to get motion similar to this even if you're on a 55 ft long new Outremer or some such...
A little different than the Caribbean. That was some serious sailing. Thanks.
Awesome stuff!
Aha!!! Do I smell or see you guys moving in another direction😄 😕great video Kika & Dan..... Excellent conditions for testing!!!
I live on my sailing boat on the Dart (the next river inlet up from Plymouth) I wish I had known you guys were over here I'd have loved to meet you. You should sail over hede in the summer as the waters around the UK are beautiful during spring and summer Devon and Cornwall to name 2, lots of tradition in the town's to vlog about and plenty of fun in the summer with lots and lots of events all over.
Anyways I'm hoping to set off around the world asap.
Did you start your journey?
That's a thoroughbred racing catamaran...I sail similar level racer/cruiser monohulls, 64', and 42', you were coasting, you'll know all about it when you power that sort of boat up in 30 knots true breeze, we fly asymmetrics in that when racing (South African coast)
Good fun sail😁😁😁
Ever seen a Wharram design? There are a large number options. You get as much or as little as you put into it. Keep it simple and light, and get the flexibility and speed that affords, or load it down and make it an oceangoing luxury condo. Definitely different than the typical cats you see everywhere.
I'm a Volvo ocean and open 60ties fan but for sheer speed and on the edge sailing the extreme 40ties (cats) are a race series worth watching. However i remember what ans old salt once told me, mono hulls are most stable when they are "hove to" and a cat is most stable when they are upside down.
Your old salt was wrong. A monohull is most stable right side up - on the bottom.
True, but a mono can sink and you're relegated to surviving in a shitty liferaft. However, a multi can be prepared beforehand to be relatively comfortable if in the unlikely event you capsize.
WE enjoyed this very much,...thank you for sharing. Some days, I miss my NACRA 5.8. Safe travels.
You should sail a small- say 20' performance cat with trapeze for the two crew to hang out off of the hull. They are very fast and a great deal of fun. With the rigging singing in the wind and the water rushing underneath you while you are hiked out and throwing rooster tails off the rudders is a real rush. I loved the big cat to Thanks.
Awesome!..the stress on a catamaran frightens me tho in strong winds.Great video and awesome sail.
john mccormick 31 years, sailed through all conditions - often pushing hard for winning races, very very few breakages ever and fantastic safety record. Check out some of our You Tube videos...th-cam.com/channels/MPoF_KJsQrpYtjSM6-IxgQ.htmlvideos
I can Fell a Daz cat coming your way, as an ambassador around the world sailing, they need that too. fantastic content.
Celso Cavallari - we have a wheelchair accessible catamaran in build that is going to circumnavigate. It'll be launched next year.
15:44 Wow, what a ride! Of all the cats you said you would NOT want to sail in gnarly conditions (Lagoon, Fontaine Pajot, etc.), I was surprised to hear you include the Outremer. I wish you would expound upon that.
That wasn’t a direct jab at Outremer, more a comment on new production boats in general, we’ve been in many and they all seem to fall apart too quickly, not the hulls or rig, but the finishes, hardware etc just don’t hold up well to full time cruising.
Sailing Uma I commented elsewhere on this page that there has been at least one second gen Outremer where a large section of the fiberglass on the port hull delaminated and came off while cruising.
Would love to see you guys go to Haiti. Its somewhere I dream of visiting.
...We have
Amazing Cat. Wouldnt mind zooming from Plymouth to Weymouth at 30 knots myself
Another bonus is that if you went electric in a catamara like this that is happy to go 15 knots, generating though the prop is exponentially better the faster you go and having 2 props generating power is even better.
Very true. At 10 kts you can get expect about 1-1.5kw from each motor.
Do you generate power using the same props you use to motor the boat?
@@joeblow1942 they don't yet, but with some modification it could be, although it would be better with a prop that could be feathered to appropriate pitch for regeneration.
@@alexhamon9261 Yeah, it would be a shame to put non feathering props on sailing machine like the Daz. But wow, if you could generate power underway as needed and then feather the props when done that would be awesome.
@@joeblow1942 it's expensive but Oceanvolt makes electric drives like this. Can be adjusted for optimum power forward and reverse, or best power generation, and when the batteries are full they automatically adjust to minimize drag. Would be limited on Uma by monohull hull speed but over distance would still make plenty enough to charge batteries under sail. Like they said on a fast catamaran, 2000-3000 watts at a comfortable speed of 10 knots.
That was some snotty weather but a super " cool cat " !!!!
Cat sailing is awesom! I have raced and cruised them. Your general comment on cat's sailing performance I think is partially wrong! Outremer is a vessel that can sail in any condition with a trained crew. I sailed my FP Athena 38 through the BC and had up to 50 kn winds averaging 12-13 kn and top speed of 23 kn. No sqeeking and pleasant movement of the boat.
Just started watching
"FAST BOAT" is all I can say
Power boat wake under sail.
I've sailed out of Portsmouth but not in the winter
I want to sail as a live aboard so I can travel and I love the idea of a catamaran, but not having to fill one with fuel to travel. Nice to know that some actually sail ⛵️. It would be perfect if some exist with electric propulsion like Uma.
You're a right. This is the most sailing I have seen on a YTB channel of any cats. Perhaps they are not posted as often, and certainly not on those seas. Kinda weird to see the water rushing past between hulls so fast. I wish it would have been warmer. Great video. Fair winds.
30 knots is hardly extreme. Very nice of the people to invite them out.
Brilllllliant, thanks for sharing 👍
Cowes to Weymouth via the Needles channel, then round the bill at Portland (inner passage) across Lyme bay and down the coast to Plymouth. Done it many times! That's real sailing. If you have done it you know what boat you would want to be in and speed through the water wins every time. Although the armchair sailors will be choking on their Horlicks, and kicking off their uniboot footwarmers to shout at the TV right now 🤣🤣Fair play to you guys for telling it how it is! Sail Safe. Ant, Cid & the Pooch crew.
The six knot tide mentioned...would that gave been the races?...they appeared to sail right through them 🤪
A very nice boat. I never got to sail a big cat, only the small 2 man racing types, but it looked like you could really crank it up. The spec is great but the price is high. I had a look at the spec of there big one the 1895 and that is amazing a real ocean racer with luxury accommodation, but a price tag of £3M+!
Great fun.... appears the bow should be raised to cut the waves instead of doing the submarine thing.... you would get not only another knot or two but a much smoother ride.
I think you just might convert for the right performance cat!
Hey monosnobs! There was actually a compliment for this cat in there! Suggest to stay away from sweeping generalizations of almost all major cat manufacturers if you haven't tested them properly i.e. in adverse conditions. It doesn't reflect well on you.
amazing epic video Kika&Dan just can say waow ! fair winds
Interesting that the Outremer didn't pass muster for you. They claim to be /racing/cruising cats, and SV LaVagabonde (Outremer 45) as well as a few other I follow which are from different builders all seem to fair well in rough seas states...
They do seem to sail well. And the few we've been on are well laid out. They just all seem to have similar issues with finish and not holding up to the wear and tear of cruising life.
It's true. I saw an episode before I stopped watching la vaga where he had to put an interior panel back in that was simply falling out and another where he was chasing squeaks. There was a lack of skill apparent too but that's what happens when you dont "know your boat" from having it for decades or refitting it yourself.
Thank you for taking me along.
yo guys welcome to 2020
are you both getting acclimatized to our weather
or is that just a brave face for the camera
WOW what an amazing boat could tell you were surprised at the agility of it
liking the diversity you present on your channel
allways something new but entertaining
{:-) PAV uk
If you ever get the chance to sail on a bigger Wharram, 38, 42, 48, 52, 55, 63… just go for it!
Would be interesting to here your opinion.
I really think Wharram is the boat Dan and Kika will like the best. Sailing Lucky Fish has made me a fan of Wharram. Just such an excellent design.
@@msnpassjan2004 Right! Even though I was amazed by the Wharrams before sailing Lyckyfish - afterwards, there are so many thought through details in the design I would like to see in other designs, but not finding. Like the wing sail schooner rigg!
This vid has raised some serious questions for me as a 73yr old singlehanded cat sailor. Do I upgrade to a bigger and can I handle it singlehanded. (currently sailing an Iroquois Mk2 30ft out of Dartmouth.) (Surprised you overnighted in Weymouth unless you needed the onshore delights)
John Foster - why don't you pop down and visit us, we're only in Millbrook just across the Tamar. We'd love to meet and chat with you. And yes, Dazcats can be singlehanded. Also, our oldest owner is 87. You might enjoy this video of him racing in the RORC Caribbean 600 in 2018 th-cam.com/video/udVM32CHCyw/w-d-xo.html
Great view of the Portland race!
I SO want a Dazcat. Awesome boats. Are you guys going to be at the May boat show in Southampton?
Sorry no, in May we will most likely be in Scotland getting ready to cross over to Iceland .
Hi Renee - we'll be there :)
It's this simple...there are catamarans and then there are condomarans.
The Weather Sure Sucks over there for sure, summertime would been the ace time to be over there.
Yes, but the place is empty and you can sail anywhere, brilliant time of year to go sailing. Just bring good waterproofs.
There are only a handful of builders in the world that can deliver a Cat with the performance pedigree of a Racer while successfully integrating the important features needed in a livable cruiser (without adding additional tonnage). You traditionally think to look in Australia & New Zealand down-under, then France in Europe... Dazcat holds the crown for the UK and would likely spank any Outremer 50!
It was good to just watch a sailing video for a change. I had heard that sailing around England can be in very rough seas. What was the temp outside you both look cold? Happy Trails
To be fair.
The outremer 5x that you were on.
Did you really get to sail her?
From what I remember you mostly motored her. and in the fog.
Yes. A few hounded miles with the sails up. But it was
I did a passage on a new Outremer 45 some 3 years ago, from south of France to Tunisia and back. Was kinda “visa run” for the boat, as well as showing the owner what she could do. Top speed was just over 25 knots. We sailed a full day almost never below 20 knots. Mostly one reef and full jib. We did push the boat, but anyway, it proves that the Outremer cats can go properly fast, if they’re not stuffed full of shit. I’ve never tested the Dazcats, but I’m pretty certain that this one could also push about the same speeds, perhaps even more. Looks light. Minimum weight is extremely important for speed, on any boat, but especially on a light cat.
@@SailingUma The Outremer have the reputation of being good boats that can handle rough stuff.
Never said they can’t do it... only said I would be nervous going that fast in that sea state. They’re definitely fast boats. We’ve just seen them not hold up well to the rigours of full time cruising. Most boats don’t. They’re not designed or built too. We’re not bashing Outremer, just new boats in general aren’t built to last more than a few years before needed serious maintenance.
@Sailing Uma. I think most people are not aware of how hard it is on a boat to cruise full time. Also they’re not aware of how flimsy “normal” consumer products are. Like cars. They might be high quality, but drive a Mercedes nonstop for a month. How much of it would be operational? Not much! And then do it for two years nonstop... That’s just the start of a long distance boats life. As we customers keep asking for home comforts afloat, and steadily more bling, we’ll end up with vulnerable boats, no matter what the builder tries to do. Simple is always better...
If you get past Denmark, you should have a chat with Quorning Boats. They produce some pretty fine trimarans, where it is the joy of sailing that has 1. Priority.
What a great video. Good to see the comparison of cat vs. monohull. Never sailed a cat (of any size) before. Can't imagine what it is like to NOT hear the Pearson creak! If you can find where she's rubbing, blow in some talcum powder. That will quiet her down.
Guys that was a great video but other cats can be almost as fun. In my Fountaine Pajot 44 I did many long passages and often encountered similar conditions to what you showed and the boat was amazingly fast, safe and comfortable. For sure cruising cats will not sail upwind well, but down wind they can really fly and actually feel safer and more stable when surfing. Reaching 20 knots was not unusual. Good luck with your travels.
Exactly. Down wind is great. Which is why many choose a cat for trade wind sailing. We like to go other places and with electric motors, good upwind sailing traits are a must, which is why we’ve never really considered a cat before. Also surfing speeds and sailing speeds are two very different things. We’ve surfed at 18kts on Uma before but rarely sail faster than about 6.5-7kt average. Most cats can’t sail at 20kts. Even the top performing cats tend to average closer to 15-20 even though they can certainly go faster in perfect conditions.
The Cat in question was a DazCat out of England. See more here: www.multihullcentre.com/dazcat-range/
I think the Wharram cat is the perfect boat for you guys. You can check one out on Sailing Lucky Fish.
I know of two Wharrams that went missing in the S. Pacific.
@ No shit?! I hadn't heard about that. Do you have any details I can look up?
@ Interesting and thanks for the info. I suppose with todays modern lines, like Spectra and Dyneema that the connections would be much better. Chafe would be a killer regardless of the type of line used though.
You got a good ride . Lots of wave surfing .
We bought a 2000 45 leopard, and gotta say these old cats sail really well compared to the newer condo versions.
Agreed. And probably built better too.
always a good video. love your work. Hi im islandboy and i am a sailing vessel video youtube binger. Rolling and liking my way through your videos. enjoying.
I told you to turn around when you were half way over here 😂
I never get SEASICK watching these videos , thank God
HAVE FUN GUYS
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There are some deceptively heavy sea's around the UK south coast, not for the faint hearted. I believe that was a Dazcat 1495, for anyone looking for information.
stijndeklerk Dazcat 1295
A new D1495 is £ 935,000, over a million US $..... That's why it's such a bitchin ride!
Yeah, welcome to boats built 100% in the UK with UK craftsman. They even build their own masts. It all comes at a premium price tag.
@@kjc9trader491 thanks
It's 5 pm right now and you start your video by saying good morning🙂. I will always say hello friends or something similar when I start my youtube videos😀
I wanted the interior tour of the cat.
Have a look on the dazcat channel there are a couple - not of this one but similar boats.
Use the link provided by them, it will take you to the main website that has the diagrams and additional videos.
I'm curious if the different motion made you feel more or less squeezy than what you might have felt on Uma under similar conditions.
We're very used to the motion on Uma so we don't really notice anymore. But the motion on the cat was definitely different and hard for us to get used to in such a short amount of time. So we really can't say.
@@SailingUma first time I sailed on a Dazcat I was quite worried, and also taken by surprise - I worked on boats for years and never got sick but for awhile on my first catamaran sails it felt like I might. I didn't, and got used to it pretty quickly but yes, it's definitely different!
you should try trimarans at some stage, they are amazing for 'always sailing', even in a very light winds
Tri's are great but horrible at anchor!
@@TheShadow941 Since most time is spent at anchor I would imagine that could be a deal breaker.
Y’all should go to South Africa and see the new Leper’s and meet the captain who sails them out in 30-50 nots. The newer cat are better for speed and handling now
A OK Looks great,Happy NewYear Regards Kad
Sailing Uma !! Hope you can have this boat some time soon !!!!!!
Something for you to look forward to in the future perhaps. 🌊🎐🐨
How much longer in the UK? Looking forward to new places to visit.
It would be informative for most viewers if you were able to try catamarans under various conditions. This one was arguably necessary, but extreme, and the boat appeared to perform well. Skeptics say that, if the sheets jam and a multihull capsizes, it will not right itself like a keeled monohull will.
It's true. An Outremer just pitch poled in Croatia last month when it was hit by a katabatic gust.
Thanks for posting and sharing. Nice to see and hear about your experience sailing that cat.
My old sailing area - great to see it all again. But I have never made it all the way to Plymouth from Cowes that fast. That was amazing! Great video once again, guys. Happy New Year.
Usually it's upwind.
Hey, was that a silly walk right there at the end, Dan? If so, it could have been much sillier! : - ) Beside that, this was an interesting Step. I've never sailed on a cat so it's kind of hard to relate. But I do watch LaVagabonde. My idea from them is that they are sailing a house (boat) with sails. It would be cool to have the specs on this Daz cat. I didn't here them mentioned. It looked narrower than a typical cat. ? ? ? Scott W
Check out Luckyfish
www.multihullcentre.com
www.multihullcentre.com/dazcat-range/dazcat-1295/
That was Awesome!
thanks for the awesome vid. Crazy fast!
Wow that looked like fun guys! Whohooo!
Slicing thru the seas, wow!