I decided not to wait on JD parts to be made, and I bought a bell crank for my 2025R off Ebay ($53). This one was fabricated with steel and welded(much stronger). It took me less than 45 minutes to install, and would probably take someone who has done it before about 25 minutes. I suggest you put the tractor on level ground and block the wheels for safety. Use a 13mm wrench (a 1/2 inch will also work, but remember the two bolts are metric, M8 - 1.25) and it is helpful to have a long screwdriver for leveraging off the rod that goes back to the rear axle/brake. When finished, I replaced the cotter pin with a new one. Remember that the rod (which goes to the back of the tractor) is on springs and can be pulled forward by hand, to help you line up the brake rod hole in the crank. Both original bolts through the bell crank do NOT have nuts. You will see that the original bolts (when backing them out) will literally eventually hit part of the frame, but if you tip the head of the bolt back and wriggle, you have just enough room to get the bolts completely out. I used a ratcheting 1/2" box wrench, but then had to switch to a crescent wrench, otherwise the ratcheting wrench will get stuck [because the bolts are flanged] when the bolt is nearly out. Note that only the axle (?) itself is threaded. I discovered that the original bell crank is cast [aluminum ???] and cheaply made. The cast crank is only threaded about 25%. There is no need to jack the tractor up because there is plenty of room [unless you have a big stomach] to crawl on your back under the right side of the tractor. The bell crank is on the RIGHT side of the tractor, directly beneath where the heal of your shoe is, when your right foot is on the (foreward/reverse) pedals. It's a simple fix because the part is 100% metal and there is no electronics or plastics, etc., involved. Local people are fabricating them from steel in their shops [welding]. JD plans on sending techs to your home and doing the needed replacements there, so you don't have to go to a dealership. But the fix is pretty easy, if you want to do it yourself. Again, I got the part for about $53 from someone probably fabricating them in their garage or metal working job. Honestly, a 12 year old boy could probably figure out how to do the removal/installation, but remember, the rod that goes between the crank and the rear brakes is with springs so it can be easily moved back and forth to line it up with the crank hole (top) again. [Don't have the parking brake on when doing the replacement.] When you take off the original (cast) bell crank and hold it, you will see how cheaply it is made and realize why it cracks for so many people.
I've inspected my bell crank and it looks in good shape. I seen pictures of a split bell crank. No cracks or anything in my 2019 J.D.. So, I think I'll pass on taking it in to the dealer, but I will do periodic checks of the bell crank, which is easy to do and takes less than a minute.
Yeah, I looked at mine too, no apparent issues, probably because I never use it😂. Well hardly ever, I was using it the other day to de-bead some tires...not the brake but the loader and I had to have the brake on for it to work. Thanks for watching.
You are welcome. I use mine a lot for a host of issues I have on 20 acres of Little Brushy Mountain foothills--downed trees, dredging creeks, moving dirt, even tilling my garden with my backhoe. But I will know in an instant when that brake begins to fail and the trip to J.D. is 20 miles round trip on a small ten foot trailer. That scares me more than anything. So, I guess I'll pass and hope for the best.
@@jonesrick1 That sounds like the next property I'd like to own. Florida is a fine place for many, but it's gotten too full and it's hot and humid and flat...which is good for the brake issue, but not otherwise.
North Carolina is my dream home. We moved here from N.J. in 2009. I never thought of retiring to Florida for the reasons you cite plus the hurricanes. Golf is no fun in the heat or when it rains. I can't play golf here in the foothills, but I love working the land and so I keep busy. Weather is mild, but we did get nipped by Helene, although not seriously, thank God.
@@jonesrick1 Yep, again agree with that. I prefer the mountain activites and have little desire to golf, boat or go to the beach. I prefer SW Virgina and western NC for sure. Yep, a little colder in winter, but not as bad as the northeast for sure and much better summers than Florida, which usually last about 5-6 months of heavy heat. You made a good choice to go half way, meaning not all the way to Florida. I think a lot of people move to Florida from the northeast and then move to the states in between searching for a happy medium between both.
Have a 2019 1025R. My brakes are fine. Live in Virginia in the Roanoke area and have hilly terrain. But I will continue to use my tractor as I rarely use the brake, even on hills. Since these tractors are hydro-static, when you remove pressure from the forward or reverse pedal the tractor stops. If you have to, just drop the bucket. Anyway, how a company messages a recall, especially a safety recall, is critically important. in this case, i think it was poorly done. Good messaging builds customer satisfaction and loyalty. The customer knows that the company has their back. On Deere's side, they've sold a crap ton of these little tractors. It's hard to beat their versatility vs. cost. I get so much stuff done with mine. I'm sure tooling up to produce and distribute all the replacement parts is no small thing. Hope they test the replacements. it's still unclear how they expect to replace the part. i would expect that they would cover the replacement of the part, but what about the transport of the tractor to and from the dealer. Scheduling is also going to be a challenge for your dealer. They only have so much tech time available. If they allow it, I'll just opt to install it myself.
I agree with you on all points, I love my tractor, very nice tractor, if the channel doesn't make a good enough impression, I love Deere, new and old. Huge process to roll out the replacements agreed, my main criticism is the roll out of the information from Deere, if it's important, why did I hear about it from social media two months before from the people that made the tractor and noticied the issue? Most of the time I'm pretty positive on Deere, but this time, they need improvement. My same situation, it's a hydro tractor, they essentially stop on their own, so to me it's not a huge deal, but for some I could see it being a problem. And lastly, myself included, just hand over the part, save the appt for someone else and let me install it at my shop. Thanks for watching.
I started to use my tractor 10/5. Stepped on the brake and nothing! sure enough that part is broken! Luckily I was in low gear. Then my wife tells me we got this same letter.
@@shawnmack70 Not sure that's good or bad, well I guess bad because it broke. Have you been able to make an appointment yet? Do they even have the parts yet? If not, there are a few dudes making replacement parts and not waiting for Deere if you have an immediate need. Just FYI. I think there is a guy or two in these comments that posted a link.
Did he just pitch the product on the 1Series facebook group by any chance? I know one of the guys mentioned they were making them after seeing my video. Thanks for watching.
John Deere’s are ok but too pricey. I just like the Kubota BX with shorter hood and I really think is made better. A lot of Kubota is in house manufacturing some sourced out too I’m sure. I hope they get their act together. 🇺🇸
I agree to a certain extent. I was a long time Ford guy, but now I'm onto Toyota. Ford no longer cares about being American and quality and Toyota still does. I recently bought a 4Runner, all 100% Japanese assembled with all 100% Japanese parts, a rarety in today's manufacturing game. But even Toyota builds other things all over the place and because of that, they are slipping. I have recently wondered if I'll have to switch to Orange, but I do believe that John Deere is way ahead of it's peer class versus Ford, or at least I hope so. Thanks for watching.
Yea, feel your pain…kinda stinks how they run things anymore…bought my 1025r we over 3 years ago…had minimal problems since owning and try to take good care of it…i could have saved money and time by going for a different brand but didnt because of how the hydro cools and comfort level….if i would have known then what ive known now, the other option would have been better….and cost me less…
Hey, they are a good product and crap happens, but it just seems like a slow response, maybe it's not. I just think it's weird to learn about it two months ago from another social media platform, not from Deere, like the maker of the product🤣. It really isn't a big deal to me, but for folks that use the brake a lot and the tractor a lot, well, it would suck to not be able to use it or put yourself in a serious liability situation every time you did. If I still did paid tractor work, I would stop in case any liability arose from it. Thanks for watching.
One thing I regret about my J.D. purchase was that it didn't come with the hydraulic diverters that are standard on some other sub compacts on the market. You need them for a stump grinder or top link, or grapples that I could make some use of on my land.
Don't have a stump grinder. I think they're bad for a small tractor like the 1025R. If I had to, I might invest in a Baumalite. But they'll vibrate the poop out of a tractor and they are hard to use because they're on the back of the tractor and you have to twist your neck for long periods while using it. If they made one for the front I'd be more inclined to purchase one, but they're expensive, noisy as hell, and shake you to the bones. Lots of videos on YT about them. Tractor Time With Tim is a good source.
@@jonesrick1 Yeah, I have a Baumalight, can't argue with you, they shake quite a bit, you do have to turn your head, but I did get mine when they were cheaper with my TTWT discount code😎. You can mitigate the shaking my properly using the machines and also making sure the 3 point is tight. Working from across the side instead of going over the middle of the stump really does minimize the vibrations. To be fair, you still have a fair amount of vibration, it can't be eliminated altogether. I actually have a video where I use a Woodland Mills stump grinder on a X585 garden tractor and it actually did pretty well. But I agree, a larger tractor would be a better system for a stump grinder. Side note, that is easily the attachment that has paid for itself over and over again. I paid $2450 and probably made $5500-6000 and that doesn't include all my uses at my house and family and friends of which we didn't have to pay for.
Yeah, notification sooner, not sure they could have had the part out sooner, but they could have at least stopped selling the defective part. One of the guys on the Facebook group proactively bought the part, only to find out it was the defective part that needed to be replaced. How crazy it that the the part responible for the recall was not flagged in the system as a Stop Sale, Stop Use part? Nuts. Deere is a well run company overall, but it takes effort to keep that going, I hope they get stuff straighted out. Thanks for watching.
LOL, sounds like Ford, simple thing yet, they don't want to take ownership of it. I hope Deere does better than Ford, I'd hate to move from Ford to Toyota and Deere to Kubota in the same year. I'm trusting Deere, while not fixing this in a timely manner will actually fix it correctly, I hope I'm not wrong. Thanks for watching.
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I decided not to wait on JD parts to be made, and I bought a bell crank for my 2025R off Ebay ($53). This one was fabricated with steel and welded(much stronger). It took me less than 45 minutes to install, and would probably take someone who has done it before about 25 minutes. I suggest you put the tractor on level ground and block the wheels for safety. Use a 13mm wrench (a 1/2 inch will also work, but remember the two bolts are metric, M8 - 1.25) and it is helpful to have a long screwdriver for leveraging off the rod that goes back to the rear axle/brake. When finished, I replaced the cotter pin with a new one. Remember that the rod (which goes to the back of the tractor) is on springs and can be pulled forward by hand, to help you line up the brake rod hole in the crank. Both original bolts through the bell crank do NOT have nuts. You will see that the original bolts (when backing them out) will literally eventually hit part of the frame, but if you tip the head of the bolt back and wriggle, you have just enough room to get the bolts completely out. I used a ratcheting 1/2" box wrench, but then had to switch to a crescent wrench, otherwise the ratcheting wrench will get stuck [because the bolts are flanged] when the bolt is nearly out. Note that only the axle (?) itself is threaded. I discovered that the original bell crank is cast [aluminum ???] and cheaply made. The cast crank is only threaded about 25%. There is no need to jack the tractor up because there is plenty of room [unless you have a big stomach] to crawl on your back under the right side of the tractor. The bell crank is on the RIGHT side of the tractor, directly beneath where the heal of your shoe is, when your right foot is on the (foreward/reverse) pedals. It's a simple fix because the part is 100% metal and there is no electronics or plastics, etc., involved. Local people are fabricating them from steel in their shops [welding]. JD plans on sending techs to your home and doing the needed replacements there, so you don't have to go to a dealership. But the fix is pretty easy, if you want to do it yourself. Again, I got the part for about $53 from someone probably fabricating them in their garage or metal working job. Honestly, a 12 year old boy could probably figure out how to do the removal/installation, but remember, the rod that goes between the crank and the rear brakes is with springs so it can be easily moved back and forth to line it up with the crank hole (top) again. [Don't have the parking brake on when doing the replacement.] When you take off the original (cast) bell crank and hold it, you will see how cheaply it is made and realize why it cracks for so many people.
I've inspected my bell crank and it looks in good shape. I seen pictures of a split bell crank. No cracks or anything in my 2019 J.D.. So, I think I'll pass on taking it in to the dealer, but I will do periodic checks of the bell crank, which is easy to do and takes less than a minute.
Yeah, I looked at mine too, no apparent issues, probably because I never use it😂. Well hardly ever, I was using it the other day to de-bead some tires...not the brake but the loader and I had to have the brake on for it to work. Thanks for watching.
You are welcome. I use mine a lot for a host of issues I have on 20 acres of Little Brushy Mountain foothills--downed trees, dredging creeks, moving dirt, even tilling my garden with my backhoe. But I will know in an instant when that brake begins to fail and the trip to J.D. is 20 miles round trip on a small ten foot trailer. That scares me more than anything. So, I guess I'll pass and hope for the best.
@@jonesrick1 That sounds like the next property I'd like to own. Florida is a fine place for many, but it's gotten too full and it's hot and humid and flat...which is good for the brake issue, but not otherwise.
North Carolina is my dream home. We moved here from N.J. in 2009. I never thought of retiring to Florida for the reasons you cite plus the hurricanes. Golf is no fun in the heat or when it rains. I can't play golf here in the foothills, but I love working the land and so I keep busy. Weather is mild, but we did get nipped by Helene, although not seriously, thank God.
@@jonesrick1 Yep, again agree with that. I prefer the mountain activites and have little desire to golf, boat or go to the beach. I prefer SW Virgina and western NC for sure. Yep, a little colder in winter, but not as bad as the northeast for sure and much better summers than Florida, which usually last about 5-6 months of heavy heat. You made a good choice to go half way, meaning not all the way to Florida. I think a lot of people move to Florida from the northeast and then move to the states in between searching for a happy medium between both.
Have a 2019 1025R. My brakes are fine. Live in Virginia in the Roanoke area and have hilly terrain. But I will continue to use my tractor as I rarely use the brake, even on hills. Since these tractors are hydro-static, when you remove pressure from the forward or reverse pedal the tractor stops. If you have to, just drop the bucket.
Anyway, how a company messages a recall, especially a safety recall, is critically important. in this case, i think it was poorly done. Good messaging builds customer satisfaction and loyalty. The customer knows that the company has their back.
On Deere's side, they've sold a crap ton of these little tractors. It's hard to beat their versatility vs. cost. I get so much stuff done with mine. I'm sure tooling up to produce and distribute all the replacement parts is no small thing. Hope they test the replacements.
it's still unclear how they expect to replace the part. i would expect that they would cover the replacement of the part, but what about the transport of the tractor to and from the dealer. Scheduling is also going to be a challenge for your dealer. They only have so much tech time available.
If they allow it, I'll just opt to install it myself.
I agree with you on all points, I love my tractor, very nice tractor, if the channel doesn't make a good enough impression, I love Deere, new and old. Huge process to roll out the replacements agreed, my main criticism is the roll out of the information from Deere, if it's important, why did I hear about it from social media two months before from the people that made the tractor and noticied the issue? Most of the time I'm pretty positive on Deere, but this time, they need improvement. My same situation, it's a hydro tractor, they essentially stop on their own, so to me it's not a huge deal, but for some I could see it being a problem. And lastly, myself included, just hand over the part, save the appt for someone else and let me install it at my shop. Thanks for watching.
I started to use my tractor 10/5. Stepped on the brake and nothing! sure enough that part is broken! Luckily I was in low gear. Then my wife tells me we got this same letter.
It broke the same day you got the letter?!?!
Same day I found out about the letter.
@@shawnmack70 Not sure that's good or bad, well I guess bad because it broke. Have you been able to make an appointment yet? Do they even have the parts yet? If not, there are a few dudes making replacement parts and not waiting for Deere if you have an immediate need. Just FYI. I think there is a guy or two in these comments that posted a link.
My buddies a professional welder and making them on EBay.
Did he just pitch the product on the 1Series facebook group by any chance? I know one of the guys mentioned they were making them after seeing my video. Thanks for watching.
John Deere’s are ok but too pricey. I just like the Kubota BX with shorter hood and I really think is made better. A lot of Kubota is in house manufacturing some sourced out too I’m sure.
I hope they get their act together. 🇺🇸
I agree to a certain extent. I was a long time Ford guy, but now I'm onto Toyota. Ford no longer cares about being American and quality and Toyota still does. I recently bought a 4Runner, all 100% Japanese assembled with all 100% Japanese parts, a rarety in today's manufacturing game. But even Toyota builds other things all over the place and because of that, they are slipping. I have recently wondered if I'll have to switch to Orange, but I do believe that John Deere is way ahead of it's peer class versus Ford, or at least I hope so. Thanks for watching.
Yea, feel your pain…kinda stinks how they run things anymore…bought my 1025r we over 3 years ago…had minimal problems since owning and try to take good care of it…i could have saved money and time by going for a different brand but didnt because of how the hydro cools and comfort level….if i would have known then what ive known now, the other option would have been better….and cost me less…
Hey, they are a good product and crap happens, but it just seems like a slow response, maybe it's not. I just think it's weird to learn about it two months ago from another social media platform, not from Deere, like the maker of the product🤣. It really isn't a big deal to me, but for folks that use the brake a lot and the tractor a lot, well, it would suck to not be able to use it or put yourself in a serious liability situation every time you did. If I still did paid tractor work, I would stop in case any liability arose from it. Thanks for watching.
One thing I regret about my J.D. purchase was that it didn't come with the hydraulic diverters that are standard on some other sub compacts on the market. You need them for a stump grinder or top link, or grapples that I could make some use of on my land.
@@jonesrick1 What kind of stump grinder do you have? I have diverters, but I didn't need them for the stump grinder, mine is just a PTO driven unit.
Don't have a stump grinder. I think they're bad for a small tractor like the 1025R. If I had to, I might invest in a Baumalite. But they'll vibrate the poop out of a tractor and they are hard to use because they're on the back of the tractor and you have to twist your neck for long periods while using it. If they made one for the front I'd be more inclined to purchase one, but they're expensive, noisy as hell, and shake you to the bones. Lots of videos on YT about them. Tractor Time With Tim is a good source.
@@jonesrick1 Yeah, I have a Baumalight, can't argue with you, they shake quite a bit, you do have to turn your head, but I did get mine when they were cheaper with my TTWT discount code😎. You can mitigate the shaking my properly using the machines and also making sure the 3 point is tight. Working from across the side instead of going over the middle of the stump really does minimize the vibrations. To be fair, you still have a fair amount of vibration, it can't be eliminated altogether. I actually have a video where I use a Woodland Mills stump grinder on a X585 garden tractor and it actually did pretty well. But I agree, a larger tractor would be a better system for a stump grinder. Side note, that is easily the attachment that has paid for itself over and over again. I paid $2450 and probably made $5500-6000 and that doesn't include all my uses at my house and family and friends of which we didn't have to pay for.
They surely should have come out with the notice sooner and they should have had the part available at the same time.
Yeah, notification sooner, not sure they could have had the part out sooner, but they could have at least stopped selling the defective part. One of the guys on the Facebook group proactively bought the part, only to find out it was the defective part that needed to be replaced. How crazy it that the the part responible for the recall was not flagged in the system as a Stop Sale, Stop Use part? Nuts. Deere is a well run company overall, but it takes effort to keep that going, I hope they get stuff straighted out. Thanks for watching.
2019 1025R, got mine on 9/27
Maybe they are rolling them out according to the year of the tractor. But it still seem slow. Thanks for watching.
They are still trying to figure out how a software update could fix it. Idiots.
LOL, sounds like Ford, simple thing yet, they don't want to take ownership of it. I hope Deere does better than Ford, I'd hate to move from Ford to Toyota and Deere to Kubota in the same year. I'm trusting Deere, while not fixing this in a timely manner will actually fix it correctly, I hope I'm not wrong. Thanks for watching.
I have not got the letter at this time 09/27/24
People are still getting them I suppose, what year is your tractor? I wonder if the roll out of letters follows year built? Thanks for watching.
@@FloridaDeere 2020
Call your dealer.