Mission Delta all the way! Has held up for 3 years of heavy use without any issues and makes the wave on an 06' Malibu great. Plus Mission has a new version now 👀👀
Props to you for the unbiased comparisons and clear footage of each wave. However, I can’t believe you didn’t ride each one or at least have somebody else ride each wave so we could get some feedback on each wave by an actual surfer...
The Wakesurf Edge by Liquid Force clearly has the biggest wave if you view the side-by-sides on a full screen computer at high-res. All were taken at the same camera angle in this vid, and Wakesurf Edge was clearly the only one whose wave was taller than the horizon line. You can see that the curl is almost out of the field of view of the camera, meaning it is super long too. I've run many different shapers on my boat and Wakesurf Edge makes the best wave out of them all.
Well I am a little late to the video but man great job, I've been running the nauticurl and we are very happy with it but it's hard not to notice the Liquid force wave. Thanks for making this video, Liquid Force here I come.
What do you think 5 years later? Just picked up an 04 tige 24v. Came with a wakeshaper (not one listed here). Been playing with placment to see if i can get a clean wave. Thinking another more well known product might be better. Thoughts?
Five years later, not much has changed. They have come out with some slightly larger models, but those are only for larger 23 foot and longer boats. If you put the larger model devices on a smaller boat, you’re just gonna create too much drag and waste fuel. Playing with the placement is helpful and you will find a sweet spot. But these devices also need to be used in conjunction with different speeds and weight to find the optimum performance.
FixItWithJake 1 second ago theskyerow, I was not able to ride them all. It turned out to be too much to get all of these wake shapers together and have a boat driver and observer to ride. As soon as we had friends on the boat, my goal to test each one went to....well you know what. I do well when I am out on the water by myself, but it is too much with friends on the boat to test each one. I suggest you look at the last image and choose what wake shaper has the cleanest wave, but also the best price and the smallest form factor that will fit well under the seat or storage locker. I hope you found this useful!
I have the nauticurl and picked up the edge pro based off this video and ya, it is much better. Surfed two people switching positions the other day on a 07 elite v C4. I am impressed.
I'd like to get into wake surfing. I currently ride a long board and have some questions please;1) Did you add any ballast or just the Wake shaper to get the change in wake2) how much load does it put on the engine 3) For wake surfing do you require huge amounts of power4) Can any shaft drive hull work with one of these (I assume you can't have a keel as the hull must slide with the wave shaper?)Thanks for your input, Much appreciated.
How do these compare to a boat equipped with Malibu’s Surf Gate? Would it be worth the extra expense to buy a boat with Surf Gate installed or do wake shapers compare in performance?
i wonder if you put 2 of these on a sea doo wake 230 if you would get a larger wake to flip, anyone have any thoughts on how to get a symmetrical larger wake. im thinking 2 of these would be expeliarmous af
Are these good for boats with around 130 hp inboard or outboard? I just got a cottage and my first boat isnt like yours in the video it will tow a skier wakeboarder but doesnt make a good enough wake to really have fun
Jose, I suggest you look at the last image and choose what wake shaper has the cleanest wave, but also the best price you can afford and the smallest form factor that will fit well under the seat or storage locker. I hope you found this useful! Each one of these wake shapers made a big difference over not using one!
So which one rode the best? It really hard to tell from the videos which one made the largest and most powerful wave. Have you filmed the riding video where you actually ride each wake Shaper? Eagerly awaiting. I’m planning to buy a wake shaper and can’t make up my mind. Need some help.
Eric, I was not able to ride them all. It turned out to be too much to get all of these wake shapers together and have a boat driver and observer to ride. As soon as we had friends on the boat, my goal to test each one went to....well you know what. I do well when I am out on the water by myself, but it is too much with friends on the boat to test each one. I suggest you look at the last image and choose what wake shaper has the cleanest wave, but also the best price and the smallest form factor that will fit well under the seat or storage locker. I hope you found this useful!
I just bought the WakeForce Edge by Liquid Force. Haven’t had a chance to try it yet but planning to this weekend. I will report back. Obviously it won’t be a comparison to anything else other than using no surf wedge at all. I have a 2014 Moomba Mojo 2.5 with max factory ballast plus another 1,000 pounds. Has a nice wake for wake boarding but I’ve never been able to get enough push to wake surf for more than 30 seconds to a minute after letting go of the rope. I’ve tried every configuration in the book. Hoping a WakeSurf wedge will do the trick.
Love it. Super easy to take on and off and once on it is rock solid. At least doubled the size of my wake surfing wake on my 2013 Moomba Mojo 2.5. I use in in combination with the factory wake surfing plate which was suboptimal alone but now in combo with the Liquid Force WakeSurf Wedge my wake has doubled. Before using this product, I was unable to surf within a rope for more than a minute or two. With this wedge I am able to surf until I’m exhausted and can’t surf any more. Highly recommend the Liquid Force product but I haven’t tried the other ones.
NEVER surf behind an I/O or outboard with the prop facing backwards. A couple manufacturers, like Monterey, designed stern drives the have the prop on the front where it is tucked under the boat, but I've never ridden behind one to know how well they work.
The most useful comparison video I have ever seen!! Well done sir! Very good info!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Mission Delta all the way! Has held up for 3 years of heavy use without any issues and makes the wave on an 06' Malibu great. Plus Mission has a new version now 👀👀
Shawn Malkou I heard they have a new version! I want to try! I reached out to them to test new one.
@@fixitwithjake Please do!
Props to you for the unbiased comparisons and clear footage of each wave. However, I can’t believe you didn’t ride each one or at least have somebody else ride each wave so we could get some feedback on each wave by an actual surfer...
Thanks for keeping the perspective as identical as possible for the test. Seemed very unbiased.
I tried hard to be unbiased and even took a few good hits and complaints but it is up to you to see the video and decide really!
what about NO shaper? I suspect the difference is negligeble
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The Wakesurf Edge by Liquid Force clearly has the biggest wave if you view the side-by-sides on a full screen computer at high-res. All were taken at the same camera angle in this vid, and Wakesurf Edge was clearly the only one whose wave was taller than the horizon line. You can see that the curl is almost out of the field of view of the camera, meaning it is super long too. I've run many different shapers on my boat and Wakesurf Edge makes the best wave out of them all.
Would love to see this one side by side with the Ronix Blade
Well I am a little late to the video but man great job, I've been running the nauticurl and we are very happy with it but it's hard not to notice the Liquid force wave. Thanks for making this video, Liquid Force here I come.
Thanks for watching and commenting.
The Liquid Force looks like it might be the best. I have the Swell. Works good.
I've got a review of the swell vs. wakesurf edge on our page. I weigh 214. Malibu vlx 2008.
Great job, Thank you. Have been thinking about if I should get one of these.
The brand Surf Mode and the 3 wing system. It rocks on my old Supra TS6M direct drive ski boat
what was your weight set up: how much in port, starboard, belly, bow . Thank you for you effort
What do you think 5 years later? Just picked up an 04 tige 24v. Came with a wakeshaper (not one listed here). Been playing with placment to see if i can get a clean wave. Thinking another more well known product might be better. Thoughts?
Five years later, not much has changed. They have come out with some slightly larger models, but those are only for larger 23 foot and longer boats. If you put the larger model devices on a smaller boat, you’re just gonna create too much drag and waste fuel. Playing with the placement is helpful and you will find a sweet spot. But these devices also need to be used in conjunction with different speeds and weight to find the optimum performance.
Great video man, I’m also eager to see the ride results and your thoughts after!
FixItWithJake
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theskyerow, I was not able to ride them all. It turned out to be too much to get all of these wake shapers together and have a boat driver and observer to ride. As soon as we had friends on the boat, my goal to test each one went to....well you know what. I do well when I am out on the water by myself, but it is too much with friends on the boat to test each one. I suggest you look at the last image and choose what wake shaper has the cleanest wave, but also the best price and the smallest form factor that will fit well under the seat or storage locker. I hope you found this useful!
What are the dimensions of the liquid force shaper? The actual blade that deflects the water??
Damn the Liquid force is 50% bigger than the pos swell. The nauticurl is a close second. Excellent unbiased test 🤙
Thanks!
I have the nauticurl and picked up the edge pro based off this video and ya, it is much better. Surfed two people switching positions the other day on a 07 elite v C4. I am impressed.
I'd like to get into wake surfing. I currently ride a long board and have some questions please;1) Did you add any ballast or just the Wake shaper to get the change in wake2) how much load does it put on the engine 3) For wake surfing do you require huge amounts of power4) Can any shaft drive hull work with one of these (I assume you can't have a keel as the hull must slide with the wave shaper?)Thanks for your input, Much appreciated.
Nauticurl looks like the best quality and currently they have a great price compared to others.
Very good video. Do you know if it works with a normal boat. I mean if it works with a boat with an outboard motor. Thanks!
Yes it would. But outboard motors are too dangerous to surf behind with the prop close unfortunately.
Can you add the price of each on the lineup or approx price or cheapest to most expensive
Curtis Young too late now but great idea for next video!
Excellent presentation. The way you had them all laid out together made it easy to compare otherwise you have to rely on your memory
David Calderon thanks. I tried hard. Took almost all day :)
The amount of time you saved me is Irreplaceable. Where do I send the check to? :-)
@@davefromthe80s.davidcalder14 Hah. I don't accept checks. Share this channel with a few friends!
what was the weight set up
Good question. 850 lbs in each rear locker, 300lbs in the center and one person (me as driver) for this test.
Can the wakesurf Edge work on a non wakeboard boat? Is it even worth if its not?
Your not going to be surfing behind your inboard outboard if that’s what your asking
@FixItWithJake - Did you post the follow up video when you rode the different wave shapers?
I did not. I ran out of time that season. Hard to do these tests with family and friends in the boat. Sorry!
How do these compare to a boat equipped with Malibu’s Surf Gate? Would it be worth the extra expense to buy a boat with Surf Gate installed or do wake shapers compare in performance?
Amazing! Thanks!
Welcome!
these wakeshaper works for any boat? the side of my boat is not that straight as your, i’m afraid of it doesn’t stick on and detach.
Would any of these work on a pontoon boat?
I don’t see why not but I’m unfamiliar to be honest. I’d borrow one first from a friend or neighbor to test.
@@fixitwithjake lol .. I'm the neighbor with the boat!!
Join a few FB groups nearby and I bet someone will let you try theirs before you buy!
@@fixitwithjake great idea. Thank you a lot!!
Great video.. amazing efforts .. I really appreciate it .. I think I will go for liquid force
GREAT VIDEO!!! Wish you would have gotten some riding footage but none the less thank you!
What about the propeller? I don't want to get chopped up.
On a wake board boat they are about 3 feet inside the hull and away from the rider. They are purposely designed to be safe.
@@fixitwithjake I mean if I put these on my boat, I will be surfing way to close to my prop. What happens if I fall into it?
Only made for an inboard or V drive wake boat. Not safe on an outboard or I/o style boat.
i wonder if you put 2 of these on a sea doo wake 230 if you would get a larger wake to flip, anyone have any thoughts on how to get a symmetrical larger wake. im thinking 2 of these would be expeliarmous af
Nice Job! Good Test! Thanks!
Are these good for boats with around 130 hp inboard or outboard? I just got a cottage and my first boat isnt like yours in the video it will tow a skier wakeboarder but doesnt make a good enough wake to really have fun
do not surf with an outboard
Can you add what ballast you had on the boat too?
Full stock tanks and wedge down. I have since upgraded the rear tanks to much larger soft sacks. I have a video on that. Look at my channel.
Good video. Thanks.
Thank you Matt.
So would you say its better to leave the Malibu Wedge down or up? I have almost the same boat.
Much steeper (more speed) with the wedge down, much shallower (more room) and long with it up. Depends on what you want...
So of all of them which one do you prefer???
nice job on the test. Very useful
Which wake shapper is the best for a MasterCraft Prostar of 1996?
i have the same boat, please let me know
Jose, I suggest you look at the last image and choose what wake shaper has the cleanest wave, but also the best price you can afford and the smallest form factor that will fit well under the seat or storage locker. I hope you found this useful! Each one of these wake shapers made a big difference over not using one!
Somebody got experience with a Wakesurf Shaper if you have TrimTabs on both side of the Boat? Im talking about a Mastercraft x2 2008.
Great info; looking forward to your comments after riding the waves; is it possible to add the Ronix Blade 138 to the test?
George White I just got my blade 138 and had the ronix sharper befor and it made just as good wave if not better stuck on very well and no Velcro 👌👌👌
Thanks, I've got the Ronix with velcro as well, works fine but velcro isn't ideal.
George White he said full
Yes, send me a Ronix Blade 138 :)
Sorry, I don't have one.
So which one rode the best? It really hard to tell from the videos which one made the largest and most powerful wave. Have you filmed the riding video where you actually ride each wake Shaper? Eagerly awaiting. I’m planning to buy a wake shaper and can’t make up my mind. Need some help.
Eric Reyes I think either the swell or the nauticurl.
Eric, I was not able to ride them all. It turned out to be too much to get all of these wake shapers together and have a boat driver and observer to ride. As soon as we had friends on the boat, my goal to test each one went to....well you know what. I do well when I am out on the water by myself, but it is too much with friends on the boat to test each one. I suggest you look at the last image and choose what wake shaper has the cleanest wave, but also the best price and the smallest form factor that will fit well under the seat or storage locker. I hope you found this useful!
I didn’t know these worked so well
I just bought the WakeForce Edge by Liquid Force. Haven’t had a chance to try it yet but planning to this weekend. I will report back. Obviously it won’t be a comparison to anything else other than using no surf wedge at all. I have a 2014 Moomba Mojo 2.5 with max factory ballast plus another 1,000 pounds. Has a nice wake for wake boarding but I’ve never been able to get enough push to wake surf for more than 30 seconds to a minute after letting go of the rope. I’ve tried every configuration in the book. Hoping a WakeSurf wedge will do the trick.
Eric Reyes how did it work?
How do you like it?
Love it. Super easy to take on and off and once on it is rock solid. At least doubled the size of my wake surfing wake on my 2013 Moomba Mojo 2.5. I use in in combination with the factory wake surfing plate which was suboptimal alone but now in combo with the Liquid Force WakeSurf Wedge my wake has doubled. Before using this product, I was unable to surf within a rope for more than a minute or two. With this wedge I am able to surf until I’m exhausted and can’t surf any more. Highly recommend the Liquid Force product but I haven’t tried the other ones.
@@ericandi do you think you'd still be able to surf without ballast?
Are you placing it above or below the ridge on the Moomba? And all the way back? Any angle?
What’s the ballast
Rag Skate Mag he said full
Fullstock in this video. MLS system.
Can you use a wakeshaper on an inboard/ outboard prop? Or is it too dangerous because the prop is actually exposed?
I wouldn't but you can get prop guards, which are like cages to go on the prop if you want to try
NEVER surf behind an I/O or outboard with the prop facing backwards. A couple manufacturers, like Monterey, designed stern drives the have the prop on the front where it is tucked under the boat, but I've never ridden behind one to know how well they work.
Hands down 3:10
Would it be possible to use a device like this on a sea doo jet ski?
Good question. Never tried that. I can use my ski and let you know. Will report back!
That's like 10 thousand dollars worth of wake shapers right there.
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Swell is barely getting it done.
Dude you took this for “goofy” riders. Anything for most normal people
Yeah just put the shaper on the opposite side of the boat, put it in the starboard side for regular foot
Watch the video in a mirror.