Multiple instances Klipper: BigTreeTech Pad 7 / CB1, low-cost Klipper solution for multiple printers
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 มิ.ย. 2024
- 00:00 Intro
02:09 Prepare the Linux OS (For CB1, optional for PAD7, do it only if you want to install the latest OS)
03:12 Setting up WiFi (For CB1, PAD7 can just use the touchscreen to setup WiFi)
03:43 Setting up WiFi (For Pad7)
04:14 Setting up Multiple instances of Klipper for multiple printers
08:49 Changing hostname
09:35 Adding multiple printers on the web interface (Fluidd)
10:17 Adding multiple printers on the touchscreen (for Pad7) by adding KlipperScreen.conf
11:27 Flash Klipper firmware on printers
12:22 Setting up the printer.cfg and debugging error messages
15:01 Change the name printers on the touchscreen (for Pad7)
15:40 Input shaper calibration (for Pad7)
16:41 Sending print jobs directly from Cura using Moonraker plugin
17:57 Test print 3D benchy(55 mins) using Ender 3 printer profile
18:50 Moving the MicroSD card from the Pad7 to the CB1 and finding the new port on the CB1
20:08 Test print 3D benchy(40 mins) using FFF custom printer profile
20:44 Some upgrades on the Ender 3 Neo
22:38 Conclusions
Today, I will show you how to set up multiple instances on Klipper with the BigTreeTech Pad7 or the CB1. The CB1 is a Raspberry Pi replacement board and is combined with the Pi4B adapter to make it work as a Raspberry Pi. Getting something like this costs around $50, and like the Raspberry Pi, you also need to get a USB-C charger and a spare MicoSD card to get started. You can also just plug the CB1 right into the new generation of BigTreeTech motherboards like the Manta series I previously tested.
The Pad7 combines the CB1, Pi4B and the heat sink with a touch screen and packs everything in a case; the package also comes with accessories like an accelerometer for input shaper calibration, a 32GB micro SD card with the system OS pre-installed, and a power supply that allows you to use it right out of the box; this Pad7 costs around $130.
If you are worried about it being difficult to configure the Pad7 or CB1, I will show you every step in this video, as well as setting up multiple instances.
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Nowadays I just run klipper on my old android phone. 0 cost + screen + camera all in one🎉
I've got a few old android phones that I would like to do this with for the exact same reason.
Now Auora needs to do a Android Tablet Klipper hack build video!
Octo4a is best on samsung smartphone, in other hand in umidigi and LG I have a lots of problems
Lately it seems when I'm wondering about things your videos sum up the details thoroughly and procedurally. Love the very simple and effective way you give the information and very clear on every step. Earned a sub from me!
At 6 minutes I knew I would NEVER do this. Too old. You and your brother are amazing, I thank God you and kids like you are out there. Great video and very impressive effort. Am I doomed to just blow up my 10S Pro???
hahha i felt the same way i just use the sonic pad its just much more user friendly
Editing tip for your brilliant brother: instead muting audio for pauses insert pre-recorded silent room noise. This avoids noticable audio breaks.
Oohh... I like this idea.
As always you both provide the best reviews and very informative.
This is exactly what I was looking for to help me setup multiple Klipper instances on my Manta E3EZ (+CB1). Clear, concise, and well presented. Thank you so much!
Thank you for this video .
It will help many folks with PAD7
Much appreciated!
Thank you for helping me set up my Pad7 and my new Sovol SV05. I've still got to tune/tweak it, but I'm at least up and printing through the Pad7 and running Klipper firmware on my printer now. I've got a few more to convert to Klipper, a Biqu B1 SE and a Creality CR6-SE. Your video, and your other videos have been a great help in setting up and where applicable, reviews of 3D printers.
You rock! With your help I was able to set up klipperscreen for 2 instances on a surface go!
Excellent quality instruction. Even if you don't have a tech background you should be able to follow along and understand what you are doing. Well done.
Helpful and clear instructions, I have referenced this video several times setting up my Pad7.
I have extremely limited linux experience but found no issue getting this done. Thankyou!
This is one of the best tutorials on how to control/install multiple printers from one control board(rg. raspberry pi). Great video!
WOW!!! Another great video. Thank you and your brother for the great content.
Congratulations for the excellent work, with these videos you help many people all over the world !!! Thanks!!!
I laughed at the post-credit "elevation" scene! :D Excellent tutorial and very well presented, as always.
Great video and instruction. Much appreciated!
Awesome setup video, considering BTT pad7 for my printers 😊. Thanks for making n sharing this video ❤
That`s by FAR the best production on the subject. You just nailed it without all the nonsense ego BS that 99% of 3dp youtubers fill their videos with !!!! After 4 minutes in the video I did subscribe to your channel and I am a hard earned subscriber !! Thank you !!!
Thank you! I recently started building a small printer farm and I've been looking for a tutorial to cover this exact topic.
This helped me on the accelerometer, thank you!
This video helped me soooooooo much. Thank you for the easy to follow steps.
After watching your videos, i decided to upgrade my Longer LK5 Pro printer. This is my first venture into Klipper and it's quite a learning curve.
I have a couple questions, all relating to Klipper, and it's implementation in a Biqu Manta M8P board, with a CB1 EEMC. I'm running TMC2209 stepper drivers, I purchased both a TFT70 and a Bigtree HDMI 70. I also took the plunge and purchased a Biqu H2 500C to be able to print flexibles and other materials. I've got the mainboard talking to the printer and thanks to your video i have the blTouch working with mesh bed leveling.
Here are my questions,
1. my extruder Thermistor reads either -250C or + 250 C and doesn't track the heater. ( the heater works) I've tried sever config settings to no avail. I've reached out to biqu, but no answer yet. All the documentation is for Marlin, so it doesn't help me with Klipper.
2. I haven't been able to get either screen to work. THe TFT screen displays a menu but says can't connect to printer. The HDMI 70 turns on, but nothing displays
I'm kind of at a standstill and I would appreciate any help you could provide.
Thanks in advance, and please keep those Klipper videos coming!!!
Dave
Thanks for the video! I wouldn't have been able to figure this out by myself. I had to just keep the serial for the printer instead of setting up each usb port for some reason. I can plug into any of the 3 ports and it still connects my printer.
Thanks for the very detailed info! Could you make a video on how to add web cams to the pad 7?
I came back after a chat with Tiny Machines because they recommended the Pad 7 for my 10S Pro as a update for reliability and speed enhancements. I so wadded through your video. I am amazed at the depth of your broad knowledge. Tiny Machine will provide on line setup support which would be required. this level of integration is beyond my patience. I need to design and print. So i ask you, would the Pad 7 for my one 10S Pro Printer provide the extra capability and set the machine up for Linear rails and faster Hot End. Thanks for all you guys for the cause. Dennis
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Awesome video. Can you please do an instruction video on installing Klipper on BTT Pad 7 for the Eleego Neptune 3 Max? Thank you very much.
I like your fluent zooming voice .Very pleasant to listen to .Just saying ;)
Great video!
Outstanding
super vidéo merci
Thanks for the great video.. If you have 3 printer setup on the Pad7, can you also connect 3 webcams for each printer via USB hub? Will this automatically work or needs further setup? Thanks
Thanks!
Great video as usual. Can you share the stl files (fan mount, crtouch mount etc) of the biqu light. Thank you. H2v2s upgrade video would be great too. Thank you.
Could you make a more detailed video on exactly how much did the linear rails upgrade on a Klipperized bedslinger contributed to the increase of speed and acceleration compared to running Klipper on a stock printer with POM wheels? I couldn't find a definitive conclusion anywhere on whether it is worth upgrading to linear rails at all if input shaping is already working. Especially Hiwin rails.
As long as it's still a bed slinger, I can't see how linear rails would contribute much to the speed. They simply run a little smoother and won't wear down like POM wheels. In my opinion, it may not worth getting Hiwin rails on a printer like that.
21:48 Ender 3 Neo: "I am a HUGE Aurora's Fan"
I'd like to heard about the H2 V2S. I going with the Revo version but I'm sure it close enough.
Thank you and your brother for a great video. I am under the impression that the CB1 is installed in the PAD7 when purchased. Is it possible to perform this process of multiple printer installs without the Raspberry Pi?
I'd like to hear your thoughts on the h2v2 lite extruder thanks!
Did you just copy over your input shaper results from a prior run, or are you planning on adding accelerometers to each printer?
Hey @auroatech - any fix for the recent updates to Klipper that breaks the KlipperScreen.conf to display the instance switch button on the BTT Pad7?
H2 v2s Lite. Yes please, do a video describing your upgrade.
Thanks
Hei Aurora, thanks for the video. I want to take a BTT pi v1.2 and i want to ask how to make the calibration of accelerometer from the browser. I don't know if i should take the pad 7 or just the pi. I have an ipad 7th generation, and i think will work better as a display for me. How babysteps should work when you upgrade to klipper?
Regards, Alex :)
Thanks a lot. Cool video. I really liked it and it helped me understand BTT PAD 7. I enjoyed watching a few more videos and of course I immediately subscribed. I have certain difficulties with writing cfg files. I see you were asked to give your files to Ender. I would be very grateful if you post them and provide a download link. There really isn't enough to understand it better. Thanks for your great work.
Not sure you mentioned the Pad 7 can be upgraded up to 8GB of Ram by swapping out the CB1 with the Raspberry Pi Compute Module 4 if you did sorry I missed it, great video tutorial!
Great video! Have you had any negative effects from using the “real” version of Klipper screen vs the BTT version ? The docs say BTT made their own version for the haptic feedback.
Oh... Yes, I didn't realize that the touch feedback was gone with the 'real' KlipperScreen. But that's fine, I would rather use the 'real' one that I can keep updating as the latest version :)
@@AuroraTech I find the touch feedback annoying, glad to hear everything else is working, I’ll change to the “real” version also when I change mine to have multiple instances. Thanks for the detailed video!
take a doubt. I have a btt-pi v1.2, which is the CB1, when I put klipper on the sovol sv-06, via kiauh and install more than one instance, the sv06 doesn't work. it only connects if it has 1 instance and no name. so, by default, the printer is printer_data.
Can you do this test on pad7 and sv06, with more than 1 instance and naming each one of them?
Hello Aurora Tech, I have after some help and re-watching your and others help videos at last got the Pad 7 to log into my browser and now see the Klipper system on it.
Now the real fun begins, I have a Elegoo Neptune 3 Max I wish to control using the Pad 7 system through the Browser, where do I get the Files needed to do so?
I need two it seems? so the klipper runs on the printer it's self and the other file to control that by the browser or the pad 7 directly.
I have a Elegoo Neptune 3 that I also will be adding to the system as I have it working! So how and where do I get the files needed?
Thank you for your help.
i have sonic pad and think its great
Hey Aurora
Great and very detailed Video 👍
Did you think that the Pad7 could also used for the Twotrees sapphire plus v1 (with Z-Axis belt) to work there with Klipper?
Thanks for your Time
Greatings from Austria
Peter
As the Sapphire plus v1 is using the MKS robin nano motherboard, so, it should just work with Klipper like other machines with the same motherboard.
@@AuroraTech thanks a lot
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ive followed your tutorial but when it comes the input shaping im not seeing that option on my pad7 is there extra settings that need to be done so this comes up on the screen?
thnx 👍
Is this the same process to installing klipper on a raspberry pi 3b+ on my ender 5 plus
please do a video about ERCF on none voron printers
Can you please show us how to get multiple printers to show up on btt pad 7 after latest klipper Update, I had it working fine before but now I can only access printer 2 and 3 through web interface. No option to select printers anymore.
Aurora I used your USB port serial ids but my pad7 is moving the printers to different ports after reboots... unplugging the side port says ch341 2-1.4:1.0: device disconnected
Make a video of bq extruder please! How could I configure a fokoos Odín 5 to run klipper?
Help please for Connect speederpad in the Manta M8P without CB1 using speederpad with klipper, is posible? In what Port Connect in manta Mp8?
Would love a comparison of running Klipper on something like the Libre Le Potato compared to CB1.
It is priced similarly to the BTT CB1, but it does not have WiFi on board. Instead, you have to use a USB WiFi adapter which occupies a port. Therefore, I would prefer to save that port for another 3D printer.
I have a Kingroon KP3S Pro S1 printer and a SonicPad. Unfortunately, I cannot get the sonicpad to work with this printer. Maybe you can check?
I can possibly buy BTT7, but I don't know anything about Linux. Do you know if there is any BTT7+KP3S Pro S1 tutorial? One for a novice. Regards.
Where is the printer code you use @ 12:38 @aurora? The printer.cfg code does not match on screen as seen in the github site. Any thoughts?
Love you're videos. Great job. Ca you confirm if the pad 7 will work with the anycubic kobra? Based on what I have seen it won't work due to the motherboard no being compatible to run klipper. I am so frustrated with anycubic. I bought everything needed to run klipper like a pi 3b , touch screen , power supply etc and found out to get it working I have to do some soldering and move resistors. All other printer companies don't have this issue with their boards. Can you confirm? Thanks
They have Kobra Go and Plus printer configs for Klipper, not sure if they use a different boards. But if you can’t use Klipper on your machine, then you won’t be able to use the Pad 7. Unless you change the board.
The HC32F460 chip is now supported by Klipper 1-2 months ago, as Kobra series are using the same chip (my latest Kobra 2 is using HC32F460 as well), so I don't think it's a problem to run Klipper on them. You can refer to the example config files here (Ctrl-F to search for Kobra):
github.com/SteveGotthardt/klipper/tree/master/config
host names do not work for me. i have to use ip addresses instead. i am not sure why but i am leaning toward my home network settings for my new mesh router. not a big issue as it still connects to them.
After updating everything works fine but the touch screen is buggy. When not connected to the printer the Touchscreen works fine but when i connect it to the printer no matter where i touch on the physical screen the response is off by alot, like i cannot click on the menus on the bottom right for example. Any info on that?
Am I missing something? I’m trying to flash Klipper on to the Ender 3 with the 4.2.7 board and you said common printers you could find the firmware online. I have looked. I don’t see it. Printer config yes I would agree firmware not so much.
So I have tried a few times now to install several instances and it does not work. As soon as I remove all the options in Kiauh and install them back when I try to reboot the pad it will no longer reboot in klipper screen. I even tried to not remove klipper screen and just remove and install 2 instances of klipper and moonraker. Either way I can't. And then I am forced to install the CB1 OS all over again and it is a long process. Is anyone else having these issues? I have seen some complaints online about things after the last few updates. I am running out of ideas and have had to reinstall everything close to 10 times now. How are we supposed to get more than 1 instance? I have followed this video and a few others to the letter and keep getting the same results each time. The pad won't boot up . I also ran into this on a raspberry pi as well. I can install one instance no problem but as soon as I remove everything and installing it back on the bad won't reboot again into klipper screen. And I am also not able to SSH back in .
Question: Would you mind providing the configuration info for the input shaper and adxl345? I tried to read and copy the brief screen shot of your printer.cfg file that was shown on the video but it does not work. Perhaps I miss read it because it is not too clear. It will not boot due to an "unable to open spi device" error.
Thank you for the informative video. I'm new to Klipper and this video helped me get it running with only the issue of getting the input shaper configuration setup. Excellent results considering this is my first attempt at using Klipper! Thank you again.
Here you are:
[mcu rpi]
serial: /tmp/klipper_host_mcu
[adxl345]
cs_pin: rpi:None
spi_speed: 2000000
# spi_bus: spidev2.0
spi_bus: spidev1.1
[resonance_tester]
accel_chip: adxl345
accel_per_hz: 70
probe_points:
120,120,10
@@AuroraTech thank you for your prompt response,
I did copy these lines and still get this error:
"MCU 'rpi' error during config: Unable to open spi device"
I've read many similar posts on the web about this error but none relate to the Pad 7. I think this product is too new to have much feedback.
The only thing I can add is that the green LED on the adxl is on. I assume that means the cable is good. I will do a continuity check on it to verify that.
Do you have any ideas as to where I have gone wrong?
@@AuroraTech I'm stuck at this step. I keep getting errors.
I have also read that enabling Jerk control and acceleration control from Cura will cancel out the klipper/pad7 controls of these. Is that true? I heard that was the case with Sonic Pad as well.
Yes, it does, that's how you set acceleration for faster/slower print speed, but it will still be limited by the max acceleration inside the printer.cfg file.
@@AuroraTech I am confused, I was asking if the cura settings cancel out the pad's ability to handle the acceleration and jerk with the adxl and input shaper... please clarify as I have operated on the pretense that if you are using Klipper - those settings should not be checked in Cura
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Hey! Great Vid, although I can't find BTT pad 7 klipper config, can you share yours?
Aurora, we need a DIY of linear rails upgrade, could you help us?
Thanks for your videos they help a lot. I just got a Manta M8P V2.0 board with TMC5610.
I have a Pad 7.
I followed your video and everything went fine except it will not connect, I get mcu 'mcu' Unable to connect. When I run ls /dev/serial/by-path it shows the right port: platform-5200000.usb-usb-0:1.2:1.0-port0.
On the boar next to the USB C is a switch that according to the diagram switch between USB-OTG and UART to USB, I only get a port when it is in (I think. The white square on the diagram is to the right, closed to the edge of the board) USB-OTG.
I also see a dip switch block with 4 switch marked:
eeprom-WP
NEXTRST
RPI_BOOT
USB-OTG
Could it be that I have to set one of those?
I have tried with different USB cables, they works to communicate with Android phones and tablet, when I write code and use them as debugging device.
Thanks for any help.
where you able to resolve your issue? I am having the same problem
How did you quickly comment things out when editing the cfg files?
can someone provide the original printer config file that comes with the Pad 7, I wrote over the existing one and lost the sensor information for the pad7 built in heat probe information, thanks in advance
does anyone know how to add the input shaping screen to the pad 7? ive searched and searched and cant find anything
hello there, how can i change the time on the pad 7? i change the to europe/berlin but on the pad´s time is 2 hour behind my time. can u help me?
Would love to see a Pad 7 vs Sonic Pad to see which one would be a better choice.
PAD7 seems to be much better and flexible, Sonic PAD is close source
@@willngton I have the Sonic Pad and don't like Creality because it's close source but I can also control 4 printers or 3 printers and a camera. I can't find any documentation on how many printers and cameras I can control with the PAD7.
@@georgedunn7573 3 out of the box.
Can you test klipper on sovol sv06 and sv06 plus? many thanks :)
hello where can I get your printer config filer with cr touch for 4.2.2 board?
is nobody mentioning the overvolting of 30XX series GPU's on gigabyte X570 boards with stock settings? I went through 3x motherboard replacements until I complete switched to another brand motherboard.
hi, how can I get orcaslicer to handle multi-instance? please
@auroratech Great video just sucks you didnt put the commands in the description
Can these be used on a 3018 cnc? Thank you for your informative videos
It would be really awesome if someone modified the software to do so...
Please let me know when you modify one😁
I was hoping you would do it and share it with me 🥲
Please don’t laugh, would it work to load raspberry pi os and load universal g code sender. I don’t think it’s that simple but that is all I can think of
Anyone know how to get the KlipperScreen theme to change Per printer?
I am lost on how to set it up for my Bigtreetech B1 SE Plus
Great Video! How can I get your printer.cfg file?
I"m a newbie here, do u have a video like this for the anycubic kobra 2 pro. I have installed klipper on it and can"t get it to work. I have looked for videos on kobra but everything I find is for other printers... can U help...
I don't see a reason why Klipper should not work on the Kobra 2 Pro.
It appears your default screen is working even with the BTT7 Klipper running. How did you manage that?
Classic LCD works with Klipper, you just need to enable the display in printer.cfg (Ender-3, Ender-3 Pro and Ender-3 Neo):
[display]
lcd_type: st7920
cs_pin: PB12
sclk_pin: PB13
sid_pin: PB15
encoder_pins: ^PB14, ^PB10
click_pin: ^!PB2
Does this work with the anycubic kobra 2?
have you tried to run pad 7 with cm4 emmc?
Wow 🤩 so BTT finally got its own Klipper hardware. Can we still use raspberry pi to work with pad7?
You don't need the RPI anymore, Pad7 built-in CB1 which is a RPI replacement board.
@@AuroraTech wow thanks ! so just plug & play. 🤩
help please I don't have a input shaper option on my pad 7 ?
hi where did you download the macro? thanks in advance...
can you post your printer.cfg file for the enders
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Please share your Fluid Macros. Load and unload is not working for me.=(
how do you change the clock on the pad7?
SSH login, then use the linux date command:
sudo date MMDDhhmm[[CC]YY][.ss]
For example, to set the date to November 24, 2023, 21:00:00, type:
sudo date 112421002023.00
The advantage IMO of the Pad 7 is that it uses stock vanilla Klipper and Mainsail, why Creality decided to butcher Klipper with its own fork is beyond me, Creality has a track record of releasing bad software, hell they cant even configuire Marlin correctly, so why they decided not to use stock Klipper that is a proven firmware that receives regular updates and would not need any programming and the costs that incurs was a bad choice IMO.
I myself have previously used a RPi 3B+ and touchscreen to run bothe Klipper and Octoprint but have now changed to Orange Pi Zero 2 + USB expansion and the same 7" touchscreen to free up the Rpi for another project, total cost £83