Hey Azhy! Just wanted to chime in and say that there was a slight error in your description of the weaknesses of Dying Light! Old versions of this perk did effect repairing, but in its current state, the buff applied to the obsession is only effective for healing and unhooks. All other survivors do suffer a penalty to repairs, however.
Actually Dying Light never gave the obsession a repair speed buff, it’s only ever had two versions and neither did this so you’re right about the mistake but DL has never done that
@@biggvsdickvs1590 You are exactly correct! I'm so sorry, I really remembered the old version doing as much, but I just checked the wiki and you have the right of it.
I LOVE using Dark Devotion on Wesker, due to his massive terror radius, it can definitely be very confusing. Many times the obsession runs the opposite direction to the other survivors and they end up believing that I'm going the opposite direction. Tons of free hits it's hilarious. It also messes the obsession up when I'm chasing them too as you have no red stain when you whack them for the first time.
Yeah main point of Dark Devotion is to not chase the obsession just hit them and go find some poor sod that does not realize you are coming. Might even get a gen grab if you are lucky. Not to mention as they buffed it work when ever the obsession loses a health state you can get benefit out of it by using killers who hurt remotely. Like survivor steps on trap your terror radius gone, puke infection gets full radius gone etc. You don't even need to be near them to get benefit out of this. Seems like AZHYMOVS still remembers this perk as the old version because he says hitting survivor when in clearly shows that they just need to lose a health state. Its not tied to the basic attack anymore.
i actually find utility in alien instinct. i agree with its folly of alerting the target. however its lack of a ranged limitation like BBQ means that if only 1 survivor is injured and they hiding near where your chase is it can kinda work like awakened awareness so whenever you hook them you get a free down. i kinda view it as a hybrid awara + BBQ and it aint bad imo.
Thing is.. I wish the perk team should just do another big perk rework for all of these outdated or completely useless perks. They could also ask the community for ideas and they could maybe implement what sounds the best to them 🤷♂️
I think Alien Instinct is an extremely solid snowball perk. If you have like 3 people injured and hook one, you can easily get to the next survivor, and then the next one. I don't use the stealth as much as I use the aura reading
Alien Instinct is really solid on high mobility killers like alien since you'll be able to actually get to the survivor just as if not a bit before the arua fades
1. They should have created basekit counters to boons for killers instead of SH. Make it so that a survivor can only boon each totem once, allow snuffing to apply a cooldown for blessing, etc. Plus, the boons have been abandoned only after three perks so it feels even more unnecessary. 2. It's neat that killers can get more value out of niche perks than survivors based on their power. For this list in particular, I've seen a lot of Plagues and Legions use Dying Light and quite a few Ghostfaces using Alien Instinct. Stridor and Spirit is a classic combo. Coulrophobia really compliments Wesker. Survivors don't really have this because they're just skins.
There's four boons, technically, but yeah, pretty much. I don't think they should be basekit, as there was only one boon that was even usable at their "peak", and they were much easier to deal with than to set them up (hence their unusability now). But yeah, the second point is something cool. Because of the unique powers, every killer handles perks differently.
Unnerving would be such a fun perk if it made repair skill checks have an increase in speed by like 25-50% (i.e. Coulrophobia or Soul Chemical), delay the skill check notification while in the Terror Radius, and/or make missed skill checks remove more progress. Unnerving Presence is a perk that would be so fun with a few number & functionality tweaks. Great video, Azhy! Well made, and as entertaining as always. 💜
I've seen Plagues and Legions using alien instinct to great effect. Since they can injure people quickly and keep them injured, you're always guaranteed to get value from it.
Personally, I love using Dark Devotion on the Knight. I'll usually run it with Trail of Torment or Tinkerer, and STBFL. Have the addons for two assassins and a larger scout radius. As you might have guessed. I use the assassins to constantly chase the obsession and apply Dark Devotion while im chasing another surv. This has made for some very fun games.
Dark Devotion may not be a great perk... but it's a very fun perk. If you pair it with another stealth perk, you can confuse the hell out of enemy teams, and it's great. I don't think I've ever made a team more confused than when I used Dark Devotion, Trail of Torment, Plaything, and Monitor & Abuse. Not a powerful build, but it sure as hell gets some reactions!
I like using it with Furtive Chase, Nemesis(perk), and Rancor whenever I get a Mori daily ritual. Especially with the recent buff to Furtive. If played right, you can hide the Rancor aura from the Obsession all match
Okay, but using it on doc is funny. Just static blast after like 20 seconds and it'll hit the obsession guaranteed and possibly whoever is healing them. Yeah, it's a bit meme-y but it's funny.
My position to rework theese perks: 1. Bloodhound - can charge in chase, when 30 sec in chase get undetectable 2. Deathbound - make 32m -> when not in terror radius 3. Dying light - if non obsession hooked 5% debuff to repairs speed for 60 sec, have stacks per hook (like laverage from sm) 4. Predator - Scratch marks become brighter and stay for extra 3 sec 5. Shattered Hope - you can snuff boon totem and break normal totem when you hook survivor (have 4 stacks max, 1 stack per survivor) 6. Grim Embrace - locks generators for 10 sec after first hook on survivor shows obsession aura for 5 sec 7. Unnerving Presence - skillchecks are counterclockwise when in terror radius (if you are in further terror you got only 1 effect, if you are in mid terror you got smaller skillchecks, if you are near killer 8m for example you will get previous effects and your skillcheck is shaking) 8. Alien instinct - when you hit/down survivor you get aura of injured survivor for 5 sec, survivor gets blindness and oblivious for 30 sec 9. Genetic limits - 32 sec and hindered for 12 sec 10. Dark devotion - i'm think it's fine but if the effect can spread out when person with that meets other, that would be great (i mean if obsession walks near survivor, terror swaps to that survivor and timer refresh (30 sec starts again)) If you like some of my changes let me know about it. Like that type of video, premonition also trash type perk. Hate devs for not reworking perks after they said "we will work on it". And nothing...
The point of Dark Devotion is to drop chase and go away from the person who is carrying your terror radius. Then you've got just a free undetectable to attack someone else. Plus, the person carrying your TR might cause people they run near to stop working on generators while they figure out what is going on. Dark Devotion, like a lot of undetectable perks, work best on indoor maps.
The advantage to playing with off-meta or failed perks might is people don't expect it. When the obsession gets injured in one of my bear traps miles away and I get random stealth on my way to a gen, survivors don't know what hit 'em. Add in Grim Embrace for maximum shenanigans and annoy the hell out of teams who were thiiiis close to clinching :D
You forgot one. Scourge Hook: Hangman's Trick is just a far worse Awakened Awareness. Awakened Awareness lets you see survivors close to you while carrying a survivor, aka nearby survivors who may bodyblock, sabotage, rescue. Hangman's show you survivors close to a Scourge Hook, which may not even be useful, as the survivors may be miles away.
I used Predator during my beginner hours of dbd, and it did help greatly on indoor maps like Old RPD, Lerys, Midwich, and sometimes the Game. But I quickly put it out of my kit.
I’m surprised to not see distressing on this list given that it literally increases your terror radius but at the same time this could be good on certain killers but also be detrimental.
It's the "meme" addon every killer has (makes power worse for extra BP per action) but in perk form. It's ironic it's only good on killers that already have a massive (or have add-ons to have) terror radius. I used to use it with Legion to farm BP before the bloodweb rework.
3:00 mistake: Dying light gives bonus to ONLY healing and unhooking speeds. +33% would make it probably best survivor perk - not only the bonus is huge, but you don't even have to use a perk slot!
Great video 👍 Ever think how some perks are significantly better on other killers? Like how Iron Maiden isn't really good on Legion, but great on reloading killers. Or Merciless Storm on Doctor? Almost seems like some were made for other killers and just kind of put on new ones when they came out. Maybe a video worth of something in that ballpark? 🤔
You missed a crucial detail on alien instinct. It reveals furthest *injured* survivor, which may prove even more useless if teams are constantly healthy.
Don’t dog on alien instinct, I use that in my stealth xeno build and the hit and run is so strong with this perk that I had a meg call me a wall hacker, also dark devotion is very good, the terror radius isn’t fake but it’s actually your terror radius so survs can carry terror radius reliant perks and abilities like docs static blast
@@lonetomfoolery8762but he gave reasons as to why he thinks it’s good, didn’t he? it’s not just a “fuck you this perk is good don’t hate on it”, he provided valid reasoning lmfao
the way i remember it BHVR actually released shattered hope as a supposed counter to Boon: CoH. But most people found (me included) that taking shattered hope by chance you'd face someone with said boon perk isnt really a counter. Also the old meta was still appearant back then, so soon after shattered hope released, CoH got nerfed.
Deathbound has worked wonders for me! You know exactly when and where survivors heal, and can make a dash to them, stopping the 2nd person from healing (if they were both previously injured) and can very often run into a disoriented survivor, because they panic and run once giving away their location, yet are oblivious to which way you're approaching. Also if you notice survivors heal and they DON'T scream, you now know they are close by. Win win all around really.
I feel the septic touch would have been a good perk to include, possibly over genetic limits seeing as it does a similar effect, but in far fewer scenarios. Fantastic video btw, love your stuff.
Imagine if Beast of Prey still worked with Rapid Brutality and gave you its bonuses after hitting a survivor. Still wouldn't be great but would have a use at least.
I was playing as blight, using Grim Embrace, I got all 4 survivors hooked before any gens were done! It was great early game pressure, ensuring they couldn't do much, but as you mentioned they just stealthed. Managed to get two stacks back to back, though!
I was laughing at Unrelenting because you're absolutely right; I use it as more of a meme addition and play a sort of mini game on my stream where the only time I'll be aggressive or hit a survivor is if they miss a skill check, otherwise I'm friendly and stay just watching them close by. A lot of people actually have fun with it
An interesting perk which no one talks about in these discussions is thrilling. The perk is supposed to slow down gens, but its not all that great at it. People just use it as a solid info perk instead.
Is it supposed to slow gens? Did they say that or something? To me it seems like it is clearly designed as an info perk that may help make some situations awkward for the survivor if they don't want to show their position.
Deathbound was one of my favourite perks for my first ~30 hours, piramid head was my second licenced killer, demo being the first. I didn't really have access to other information perks but stil. I like the idea behind it. Grim Embrace I like to put into not so serious builds, or when I play some of the top killers like blight or nurse. It's a weak slowdown, but I find it fun to use. The obsession aura part usually does nothing, as somehow, whenever I use it, the obsession tends to be the last one to get hooked lol
I'm gonna be real, Deathbound's one of my favorite perks. It's use is limited on low mobility Killers, ironically including Pyramid Head, but on Killers like Blight or Dredge you can act on that info really fast. It's actually a permanent perk I use on Dredge since Survivors are inclined to heal up and prevent Nightfall, his TP can reach the healing Survivors in no time. It's Oblivious status effect is more of a good bonus if it activates. I do this the perk was a more thematic perk, fitting with Pyramid Head's theme of punishing and atonement, but damn do I love that perk
Imo, you totally missed the mark with shattered hope. Circle pf healing was never OK, cause it provided an infinite number of value - perk remained a huge problem up until it was hard nerfed in 6.7.0. The real reason to shattered hope’s failure is it’s instability. Even when boons were at their strongest and were everywhere, you could have a game with zero boons in your lobby, or a boon was never placed - or you just never had the time to find and crush it, let alone do that multiple times. Shattered hope basically turned to be an alternative to an empty perk slot in most games. Nevertheless, a great video, the type of content I love this cannel for. Something unique and fresh!
23rd video asking ➡️ 1) Who from the killers is the most sensible/in touch with reality/in full control of themselves. 2) Ranking survivors' commentary, grunts, screams, etc., on how believable and realistic they sound? Like which are overdone, which are strange, which are so realistic you feel for the survivor, etc.
Shattered Hope being one of the least used killer perks is genuinely impressive when you consider it is a general perk. After Stranger Things DLC left DbD, the usage of all of Demo's perks jumped up significantly. Even Mindbreaker, a perk that really isn't all that great, started getting a significant amount of use. I also find Grim Embrace particularly badly designed as a perk because it has an anti-tunnelling mechanic in it with the stacks, but it encourages you to camp. When you hook the fourth survivor, there is literally no reason to leave the hook unless the obsession happens to be very near by. It's not like anyone's going to get any gen progress.
Even if the effect is basekit, the extra 10 seconds of Endurance can throw off tunneling killers: They'll wait 10 seconds for the basekit effect to wear off and then hit the Borrowed Time. It's also really good for Endgame rescue saves if the exit gates are more than 10 seconds away from the hook!
@@SinNombre-_- Now I agree there, but since it is basekit. Killers will always suspect the possibility of BT to be in play because of that additional 10 seconds. I'd say personally about 90% of the time killers will wait the 20 seconds regardless before going for the hit.
@@dylanmorse8199in my experience, I'd say borrowed time is pointless because if the intent is to tunnel, the most efficient choice is to hit right off of hook. There are so many possible endurance effects that could be in play after an unhook that it's better to just hit immediately and remove all those possibilities. Hell, even if you're not tunneling it's sometimes still good to hit off of hook just to waste their time a little with the mending.
Deathbound is like a very shallow but large puddle, on paper all the things you can get with it sound amazing and a steath/info/forced altrism would be meta right off the bat or find some niche build. But the values from it are so small that survivor either won't care or it just have little affect on the overall game.
i use dark devotion on Oni so that i can smak the obsession and rage after some other target near unnoticeable other than the sound of my mammoth feet rapidly aproching your location. ADITIONALLY i stack this with onis own perk that allows me to switch the obsession when i get stunned keeping survivors on edge and never truly knowing if its me or not
Dying Light is actually a pretty decent perk, and I'll stand by it. The Obsession gets no repair bonus (but is rather unaffected by any speed penalties). It pairs nicely with Sloppy Butcher because it counters the Obsession's healing speed bonus as well as stacking the with penalties applied to other survivors, and running it with Jolt or another regression perk helps get the most mileage out it. A killer like Legion can be good without SB, since you probably don't want to be healing much against them anyway.
Predator scratchmarks should be thick but be less scattered, and should prevent scratchmarks from being hidden, like from dance with me. Gives it the utility it needs to be useful by itself
I like using Deathbound on Oni since i find survivors will heal on the edges of the map more than in high traffic areas. Plus tells me where my next batch of blood orbs are at :)
Dark Devotion + Coller... Coule... Dark Devotion + Fear of Clowns + Ultimate Weapon: Not sure if this works, but with this survivors can't heal very well and will scream when you open a locker
Dying light actually has been better than it used to be with healing reworks. It works well on killers that prevent healing like legion and plague or broken forcing addons/perks. It's better when you have a obsession juggling perk. It also has a weird multiplication effect on slowdown with some other perks. Allowing you to slow progress to a crawl. Deathbound and alien instinct are EVIL on teleport killers especially sadako. As she doesn't have a lullaby when manafested so if you use fingernails you can zip over and smack them with a jumpscare. Deathbound and genetic limits is also helpful for teleporting killers. For a silly meme build I do genetic limits, mind breaker, blood echo and septic touch. It enrages woo and made for this survivors but Gen rushers still can Gen rush.
I dont agree with alien instinct because i run a build that involved the surviors staying injured and if you use wraith which is fast coverage its a good perk it really just depends on the killer
It’d be cool if Grim Embrace worked like Pain Res, make it a scourge hook and every time a survivor gets hooked on a scourge hook for the first time the gens get blocked for 40 seconds, that’d be more useful
@@Thepre-fixfordeath I mean it’d have to be a decent amount of time to make it worth using considering u only get to use it 4 times, under 30 seconds would be kinda pointless, so I guess 30 seconds would be ok
I would like to say while I mostly agree with the alien open it does have its uses. For instance if the injured person is nearby (usually if they’re the only one or last survivor) it comes in quite handy as it doesn’t have a radius. I would like to say however that the other alien perk is a bit annoying as it relies entirely on you getting a hot while getting rid of killer instinct. In higher level lobbies this can be a bit difficult
I think a nice buff to BOP would be granting undetectable while you're in chase, and when you get BL, you basically get a bond for killer, with both effects persisting for 10 seconds after leaving chase.
To be honest, Genetic Limits is a useless perk in the whole game. If a survivor doesn't run an exhaustion perk, which happens sometimes, it's become very-very useless. If not, the time of 32 seconds is small, and it doesn't give real pressure on survivors (they're really don't need to care about it). It's need a small rework of giving Hindered (about -3%) too.
I believe BHVR didn't make shattered hope base kit cause survivor mains will complain "why are the killers able to destroy my boons for no reason?" When survivors can cleanse hex totems without needing a perk.
Dark devotion is actually fairly good believe it or not use it with perks that swap the obsession like game afoot so even if they are on guard it doesn’t matter it also gives you unique build ideas
Okay admittedly, Beast of Prey is awful for all killers except Onryō, survivors will think she's demanifested but actually she still on you. Works wonders on T L walls. Try it sometime (Coming from yours truly: A BoP user)
I disagree about dark devotion because that requires survivors know every perk in the game and dark devotion usually flies under the radar unless you’re going up against survivors with 2k+ hours
Ironically, you were playing perhaps the only killer that could use Beast Of Prey effectively. On Ghostface, survivors will throw a chase trying to break what they think is your Nightshroud, letting you get free hits by just following a survivor like a bot.
I’m just saying, grim embrace is not a failed perk. That perk, especially paired with deadlock is one of the most nasty combos to go against survivors by far. It is in fact such a good killer perk that it is used in most comp teams. As a killer man, let me tell you it is an absolutely amazing perk, and people shit on it for no reason
Can’t believe you’d post footage of you using such an op build. Come on, do you really need strong perks like Beast Of Prey, Deathbound, Shattered Hope, and Alien Instinct to win your games? Sounds like a skill issue /s On a more serious note, I love Alien Instinct on Nurse. It’s singlehandedly won me a few tough games lately. Farthest injured survivor can mean any range; they can be across the map, or close enough for a blink attack. I’d recommend trying it on her!
shattered hope didnt fail cause it came late, it failed cause it didnt do ANYTHING if survivors didnt bring a boon totem, making it the only perk in the entire game that can have 0 effect if the survivors didnt being or use a spacific type of perk
For Beast of Prey I just came up with a rework idea, curious what the general consensu here is: Beast of Prey: Whenever you break chase with a survivor, you gain 1% movement speed for 20/30/40 seconds or until a survivor loses a health state. This stacks indefinitely and refreshes when you break a new chase.
I **massively** disagree with genetic. you pair that with nurses calling or something and you're gonna be getting chases on folks who can't sprint burst from a heal or what not. it's **really** effective in my experience.
If I Had to rework Grim embrace, Once you get TWO Unique hooks this perk activates, All generators are Blocked for 20/25/30 seconds, and during that time they Regress at 95/105/115% of normal regression speed (non-Stackable) if Survivors are inside a 2 meter Horizontal radius of a Generator or working on one While Grim Embrace Activates, the generator will explode pushing them away by 3 meter and taking a Health state if uninjured, if injured they suffer from Broken and the visual effect caused by Knockout for 10 seconds.
Hey Azhy! Just wanted to chime in and say that there was a slight error in your description of the weaknesses of Dying Light! Old versions of this perk did effect repairing, but in its current state, the buff applied to the obsession is only effective for healing and unhooks. All other survivors do suffer a penalty to repairs, however.
Yeah I was about to say all I saw was hooking and healing. I'm abit newer to the game though so I didn't know what the old version was like.
Actually Dying Light never gave the obsession a repair speed buff, it’s only ever had two versions and neither did this so you’re right about the mistake but DL has never done that
@@biggvsdickvs1590 You are exactly correct! I'm so sorry, I really remembered the old version doing as much, but I just checked the wiki and you have the right of it.
33% faster gen repair would be absolutely insane
@@DoctorTheoyeah for real thank goodness they changed it
I LOVE using Dark Devotion on Wesker, due to his massive terror radius, it can definitely be very confusing. Many times the obsession runs the opposite direction to the other survivors and they end up believing that I'm going the opposite direction. Tons of free hits it's hilarious. It also messes the obsession up when I'm chasing them too as you have no red stain when you whack them for the first time.
Yeah main point of Dark Devotion is to not chase the obsession just hit them and go find some poor sod that does not realize you are coming. Might even get a gen grab if you are lucky. Not to mention as they buffed it work when ever the obsession loses a health state you can get benefit out of it by using killers who hurt remotely. Like survivor steps on trap your terror radius gone, puke infection gets full radius gone etc. You don't even need to be near them to get benefit out of this. Seems like AZHYMOVS still remembers this perk as the old version because he says hitting survivor when in clearly shows that they just need to lose a health state. Its not tied to the basic attack anymore.
dark devotion with septic touch and clowns TR perk combo is **sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet**
@@WezquDoes that mean it works with new Skull Merchant?
@@disfiguringthegoddess1102
Oh that's clever!
i actually find utility in alien instinct.
i agree with its folly of alerting the target.
however its lack of a ranged limitation like BBQ means that if only 1 survivor is injured and they hiding near where your chase is it can kinda work like awakened awareness so whenever you hook them you get a free down.
i kinda view it as a hybrid awara + BBQ and it aint bad imo.
Thing is.. I wish the perk team should just do another big perk rework for all of these outdated or completely useless perks. They could also ask the community for ideas and they could maybe implement what sounds the best to them 🤷♂️
Legit, instead of nerfing all the perks to the point of boredom, maybe improve some of the useless ones enough to bring in variety that way
Dying Light is only buffing healing and unhook speed of the obsession, not repairing or sabotaging
But great video as always
I love the unwinnable scenario during Grim Embrace
shout-out to Territorial Imperative for encouraging basement camping
halfway across the map
I think Alien Instinct is an extremely solid snowball perk. If you have like 3 people injured and hook one, you can easily get to the next survivor, and then the next one. I don't use the stealth as much as I use the aura reading
Alien Instinct is really solid on high mobility killers like alien since you'll be able to actually get to the survivor just as if not a bit before the arua fades
Its fine if You're tunneling or trying to play around the obsession, the problem with the perk is that BBQ usually outshines it.
Genetic limits seems like a perk entirely made to counter made for this. Which proves to me that the devs knew the perk was going to be a problem
1. They should have created basekit counters to boons for killers instead of SH. Make it so that a survivor can only boon each totem once, allow snuffing to apply a cooldown for blessing, etc. Plus, the boons have been abandoned only after three perks so it feels even more unnecessary.
2. It's neat that killers can get more value out of niche perks than survivors based on their power. For this list in particular, I've seen a lot of Plagues and Legions use Dying Light and quite a few Ghostfaces using Alien Instinct. Stridor and Spirit is a classic combo. Coulrophobia really compliments Wesker. Survivors don't really have this because they're just skins.
There's four boons, technically, but yeah, pretty much. I don't think they should be basekit, as there was only one boon that was even usable at their "peak", and they were much easier to deal with than to set them up (hence their unusability now).
But yeah, the second point is something cool. Because of the unique powers, every killer handles perks differently.
Unnerving would be such a fun perk if it made repair skill checks have an increase in speed by like 25-50% (i.e. Coulrophobia or Soul Chemical), delay the skill check notification while in the Terror Radius, and/or make missed skill checks remove more progress.
Unnerving Presence is a perk that would be so fun with a few number & functionality tweaks.
Great video, Azhy! Well made, and as entertaining as always. 💜
Its been used sometimes for impossible skillcheck builds, but is honestly mostly a meme.
Still a funny meme, but a meme nonetheless.
Unnerving Presence should just reduce Repair speed by 7-12% while within terror radius.
Dark Devotion is so fun on Doctor bc your static blast will use the survivor as if you were there instead
Wait. So his Static Blast comes from the SURVIVOR? I *GOTTA* try this.
It does?
I've seen Plagues and Legions using alien instinct to great effect. Since they can injure people quickly and keep them injured, you're always guaranteed to get value from it.
Shattered Hope fixes a problem that should never have existed in the first place.
Personally, I love using Dark Devotion on the Knight. I'll usually run it with Trail of Torment or Tinkerer, and STBFL. Have the addons for two assassins and a larger scout radius. As you might have guessed. I use the assassins to constantly chase the obsession and apply Dark Devotion while im chasing another surv. This has made for some very fun games.
Dark Devotion may not be a great perk... but it's a very fun perk. If you pair it with another stealth perk, you can confuse the hell out of enemy teams, and it's great. I don't think I've ever made a team more confused than when I used Dark Devotion, Trail of Torment, Plaything, and Monitor & Abuse. Not a powerful build, but it sure as hell gets some reactions!
I like using it with Furtive Chase, Nemesis(perk), and Rancor whenever I get a Mori daily ritual. Especially with the recent buff to Furtive. If played right, you can hide the Rancor aura from the Obsession all match
I use it as Oni on RPD. With that build you said, geniuses thinks same. Works very well, i always ambush confused af survivors with this build
Okay, but using it on doc is funny. Just static blast after like 20 seconds and it'll hit the obsession guaranteed and possibly whoever is healing them.
Yeah, it's a bit meme-y but it's funny.
Alien instinct purpouse is not to sneak to the survivor, but to have general knowlege what to do next, after hooking someone.
My position to rework theese perks:
1. Bloodhound - can charge in chase, when 30 sec in chase get undetectable
2. Deathbound - make 32m -> when not in terror radius
3. Dying light - if non obsession hooked 5% debuff to repairs speed for 60 sec, have stacks per hook (like laverage from sm)
4. Predator - Scratch marks become brighter and stay for extra 3 sec
5. Shattered Hope - you can snuff boon totem and break normal totem when you hook survivor (have 4 stacks max, 1 stack per survivor)
6. Grim Embrace - locks generators for 10 sec after first hook on survivor shows obsession aura for 5 sec
7. Unnerving Presence - skillchecks are counterclockwise when in terror radius (if you are in further terror you got only 1 effect, if you are in mid terror you got smaller skillchecks, if you are near killer 8m for example you will get previous effects and your skillcheck is shaking)
8. Alien instinct - when you hit/down survivor you get aura of injured survivor for 5 sec, survivor gets blindness and oblivious for 30 sec
9. Genetic limits - 32 sec and hindered for 12 sec
10. Dark devotion - i'm think it's fine but if the effect can spread out when person with that meets other, that would be great (i mean if obsession walks near survivor, terror swaps to that survivor and timer refresh (30 sec starts again))
If you like some of my changes let me know about it. Like that type of video, premonition also trash type perk. Hate devs for not reworking perks after they said "we will work on it". And nothing...
The point of Dark Devotion is to drop chase and go away from the person who is carrying your terror radius. Then you've got just a free undetectable to attack someone else. Plus, the person carrying your TR might cause people they run near to stop working on generators while they figure out what is going on. Dark Devotion, like a lot of undetectable perks, work best on indoor maps.
The advantage to playing with off-meta or failed perks might is people don't expect it. When the obsession gets injured in one of my bear traps miles away and I get random stealth on my way to a gen, survivors don't know what hit 'em. Add in Grim Embrace for maximum shenanigans and annoy the hell out of teams who were thiiiis close to clinching :D
You forgot one. Scourge Hook: Hangman's Trick is just a far worse Awakened Awareness.
Awakened Awareness lets you see survivors close to you while carrying a survivor, aka nearby survivors who may bodyblock, sabotage, rescue.
Hangman's show you survivors close to a Scourge Hook, which may not even be useful, as the survivors may be miles away.
I used Predator during my beginner hours of dbd, and it did help greatly on indoor maps like Old RPD, Lerys, Midwich, and sometimes the Game. But I quickly put it out of my kit.
I’m surprised to not see distressing on this list given that it literally increases your terror radius but at the same time this could be good on certain killers but also be detrimental.
It's the "meme" addon every killer has (makes power worse for extra BP per action) but in perk form. It's ironic it's only good on killers that already have a massive (or have add-ons to have) terror radius. I used to use it with Legion to farm BP before the bloodweb rework.
@@Chainsawwed that’s cool thanks for the input!
3:00 mistake: Dying light gives bonus to ONLY healing and unhooking speeds. +33% would make it probably best survivor perk - not only the bonus is huge, but you don't even have to use a perk slot!
Great video 👍 Ever think how some perks are significantly better on other killers? Like how Iron Maiden isn't really good on Legion, but great on reloading killers. Or Merciless Storm on Doctor? Almost seems like some were made for other killers and just kind of put on new ones when they came out. Maybe a video worth of something in that ballpark? 🤔
You missed a crucial detail on alien instinct. It reveals furthest *injured* survivor, which may prove even more useless if teams are constantly healthy.
Don’t dog on alien instinct, I use that in my stealth xeno build and the hit and run is so strong with this perk that I had a meg call me a wall hacker, also dark devotion is very good, the terror radius isn’t fake but it’s actually your terror radius so survs can carry terror radius reliant perks and abilities like docs static blast
"Don't shit on my perk, I use it and it works in this one niche for a specific type of killer"
@@lonetomfoolery8762but he gave reasons as to why he thinks it’s good, didn’t he? it’s not just a “fuck you this perk is good don’t hate on it”, he provided valid reasoning lmfao
@@theholytree2130 Exactly
the way i remember it BHVR actually released shattered hope as a supposed counter to Boon: CoH. But most people found (me included) that taking shattered hope by chance you'd face someone with said boon perk isnt really a counter. Also the old meta was still appearant back then, so soon after shattered hope released, CoH got nerfed.
Deathbound has worked wonders for me!
You know exactly when and where survivors heal, and can make a dash to them, stopping the 2nd person from healing (if they were both previously injured) and can very often run into a disoriented survivor, because they panic and run once giving away their location, yet are oblivious to which way you're approaching.
Also if you notice survivors heal and they DON'T scream, you now know they are close by.
Win win all around really.
I feel the septic touch would have been a good perk to include, possibly over genetic limits seeing as it does a similar effect, but in far fewer scenarios. Fantastic video btw, love your stuff.
Imagine if Beast of Prey still worked with Rapid Brutality and gave you its bonuses after hitting a survivor. Still wouldn't be great but would have a use at least.
well now I want to get dying light to my legion build to slow survs even more with tanatofobia
I was playing as blight, using Grim Embrace, I got all 4 survivors hooked before any gens were done! It was great early game pressure, ensuring they couldn't do much, but as you mentioned they just stealthed. Managed to get two stacks back to back, though!
I was laughing at Unrelenting because you're absolutely right; I use it as more of a meme addition and play a sort of mini game on my stream where the only time I'll be aggressive or hit a survivor is if they miss a skill check, otherwise I'm friendly and stay just watching them close by. A lot of people actually have fun with it
An interesting perk which no one talks about in these discussions is thrilling. The perk is supposed to slow down gens, but its not all that great at it. People just use it as a solid info perk instead.
I think it was designed to be both.
Is it supposed to slow gens? Did they say that or something? To me it seems like it is clearly designed as an info perk that may help make some situations awkward for the survivor if they don't want to show their position.
Deathbound was one of my favourite perks for my first ~30 hours, piramid head was my second licenced killer, demo being the first. I didn't really have access to other information perks but stil. I like the idea behind it.
Grim Embrace I like to put into not so serious builds, or when I play some of the top killers like blight or nurse. It's a weak slowdown, but I find it fun to use.
The obsession aura part usually does nothing, as somehow, whenever I use it, the obsession tends to be the last one to get hooked lol
I'm gonna be real, Deathbound's one of my favorite perks.
It's use is limited on low mobility Killers, ironically including Pyramid Head, but on Killers like Blight or Dredge you can act on that info really fast.
It's actually a permanent perk I use on Dredge since Survivors are inclined to heal up and prevent Nightfall, his TP can reach the healing Survivors in no time.
It's Oblivious status effect is more of a good bonus if it activates.
I do this the perk was a more thematic perk, fitting with Pyramid Head's theme of punishing and atonement, but damn do I love that perk
Imo, you totally missed the mark with shattered hope. Circle pf healing was never OK, cause it provided an infinite number of value - perk remained a huge problem up until it was hard nerfed in 6.7.0. The real reason to shattered hope’s failure is it’s instability.
Even when boons were at their strongest and were everywhere, you could have a game with zero boons in your lobby, or a boon was never placed - or you just never had the time to find and crush it, let alone do that multiple times. Shattered hope basically turned to be an alternative to an empty perk slot in most games.
Nevertheless, a great video, the type of content I love this cannel for. Something unique and fresh!
23rd video asking ➡️
1) Who from the killers is the most sensible/in touch with reality/in full control of themselves.
2) Ranking survivors' commentary, grunts, screams, etc., on how believable and realistic they sound? Like which are overdone, which are strange, which are so realistic you feel for the survivor, etc.
Shattered Hope being one of the least used killer perks is genuinely impressive when you consider it is a general perk. After Stranger Things DLC left DbD, the usage of all of Demo's perks jumped up significantly. Even Mindbreaker, a perk that really isn't all that great, started getting a significant amount of use.
I also find Grim Embrace particularly badly designed as a perk because it has an anti-tunnelling mechanic in it with the stacks, but it encourages you to camp. When you hook the fourth survivor, there is literally no reason to leave the hook unless the obsession happens to be very near by. It's not like anyone's going to get any gen progress.
I'd say Borrowed Time fails at its job now since the perk is now base kit, so Killers will typically wait the 10-15 seconds before going for the hit.
Even if the effect is basekit, the extra 10 seconds of Endurance can throw off tunneling killers: They'll wait 10 seconds for the basekit effect to wear off and then hit the Borrowed Time.
It's also really good for Endgame rescue saves if the exit gates are more than 10 seconds away from the hook!
@@SinNombre-_- Now I agree there, but since it is basekit. Killers will always suspect the possibility of BT to be in play because of that additional 10 seconds. I'd say personally about 90% of the time killers will wait the 20 seconds regardless before going for the hit.
@@dylanmorse8199in my experience, I'd say borrowed time is pointless because if the intent is to tunnel, the most efficient choice is to hit right off of hook. There are so many possible endurance effects that could be in play after an unhook that it's better to just hit immediately and remove all those possibilities. Hell, even if you're not tunneling it's sometimes still good to hit off of hook just to waste their time a little with the mending.
Deathbound is like a very shallow but large puddle, on paper all the things you can get with it sound amazing and a steath/info/forced altrism would be meta right off the bat or find some niche build. But the values from it are so small that survivor either won't care or it just have little affect on the overall game.
i use dark devotion on Oni so that i can smak the obsession and rage after some other target near unnoticeable other than the sound of my mammoth feet rapidly aproching your location. ADITIONALLY i stack this with onis own perk that allows me to switch the obsession when i get stunned keeping survivors on edge and never truly knowing if its me or not
I have Alien Instinct on my Oni Build as it gives me information on where I can find blood orbs after A Demon Charge.
Dark devotion is kinda useful especially in solo queue. When I see a teammate sprint at me and heart beat gets louder I assume they brought him to me
A rework to beast of prey i thought of was gaining bloodlust faster by X seconds or X percent but in return you cannot reach tier 3
Dark dev can combo well with other perks, but you gotta build around it
I'm surprised you didn't mention overwhelming presence, or as I like to call it, Franklin's rejected cousin
Dying Light is actually a pretty decent perk, and I'll stand by it. The Obsession gets no repair bonus (but is rather unaffected by any speed penalties). It pairs nicely with Sloppy Butcher because it counters the Obsession's healing speed bonus as well as stacking the with penalties applied to other survivors, and running it with Jolt or another regression perk helps get the most mileage out it. A killer like Legion can be good without SB, since you probably don't want to be healing much against them anyway.
i once went against a skillcheck doctor with sloppy and unnerving presence while i had autodidact on 💀. 3 seconds heals is pretty good tbf
Predator scratchmarks should be thick but be less scattered, and should prevent scratchmarks from being hidden, like from dance with me. Gives it the utility it needs to be useful by itself
I like using Deathbound on Oni since i find survivors will heal on the edges of the map more than in high traffic areas. Plus tells me where my next batch of blood orbs are at :)
as a deathbound enjoyer, it's a really fun concept but it should apply to both sides and maybe also give blindness when both are apart.
Dark Devotion + Coller... Coule...
Dark Devotion + Fear of Clowns + Ultimate Weapon: Not sure if this works, but with this survivors can't heal very well and will scream when you open a locker
All of Skullmerchants perks are super situational and don’t have a lot of bang for their buck. The only one that I even think of using is TWACK.
Alien instinct works well for Dredge and the Xeno, but I don't know if its worth a slot
I guess beast of prey can be useful in chase because it hides the red stain you can mind game easier
great video man i’m pretty new and have no clue what perk is what but still find your vids entertaining ❤️
Dying light actually has been better than it used to be with healing reworks.
It works well on killers that prevent healing like legion and plague or broken forcing addons/perks.
It's better when you have a obsession juggling perk. It also has a weird multiplication effect on slowdown with some other perks. Allowing you to slow progress to a crawl.
Deathbound and alien instinct are EVIL on teleport killers especially sadako. As she doesn't have a lullaby when manafested so if you use fingernails you can zip over and smack them with a jumpscare. Deathbound and genetic limits is also helpful for teleporting killers.
For a silly meme build I do genetic limits, mind breaker, blood echo and septic touch. It enrages woo and made for this survivors but Gen rushers still can Gen rush.
I dont agree with alien instinct because i run a build that involved the surviors staying injured and if you use wraith which is fast coverage its a good perk it really just depends on the killer
It’d be cool if Grim Embrace worked like Pain Res, make it a scourge hook and every time a survivor gets hooked on a scourge hook for the first time the gens get blocked for 40 seconds, that’d be more useful
Might be a little TOO op.
2 1/2 minutes of blocked gens?
@@Thepre-fixfordeath I mean it’d have to be a decent amount of time to make it worth using considering u only get to use it 4 times, under 30 seconds would be kinda pointless, so I guess 30 seconds would be ok
@@majrgaming2633 pain res takes about 22 seconds of gen progress and can only be used 4 times
Bro your videos are so entertaining and well made, keep it up!
I would like to say while I mostly agree with the alien open it does have its uses. For instance if the injured person is nearby (usually if they’re the only one or last survivor) it comes in quite handy as it doesn’t have a radius. I would like to say however that the other alien perk is a bit annoying as it relies entirely on you getting a hot while getting rid of killer instinct. In higher level lobbies this can be a bit difficult
I like beast of prey for mindgaming in prolonged chases
I think a nice buff to BOP would be granting undetectable while you're in chase, and when you get BL, you basically get a bond for killer, with both effects persisting for 10 seconds after leaving chase.
I love that grim embrace is meta now
Deathbound works really well with dredge
To be honest, Genetic Limits is a useless perk in the whole game. If a survivor doesn't run an exhaustion perk, which happens sometimes, it's become very-very useless. If not, the time of 32 seconds is small, and it doesn't give real pressure on survivors (they're really don't need to care about it). It's need a small rework of giving Hindered (about -3%) too.
I believe BHVR didn't make shattered hope base kit cause survivor mains will complain "why are the killers able to destroy my boons for no reason?" When survivors can cleanse hex totems without needing a perk.
I think if you use obsession perks like nemesis dark devotion could be fun
Dark Dovution is a fun niche perk it is strong in indoor maps
Actually Grim embrace, dark devotion and alien predator are good and underrated perks.
Dark devotion is actually fairly good believe it or not use it with perks that swap the obsession like game afoot so even if they are on guard it doesn’t matter it also gives you unique build ideas
Would genetic limits counter the endurance from mft because mft isnt active during exhaustion? Or does it not effect mft since its after the heal
Okay admittedly, Beast of Prey is awful for all killers except Onryō, survivors will think she's demanifested but actually she still on you. Works wonders on T L walls. Try it sometime
(Coming from yours truly: A BoP user)
Wouldn't Shatter hope kind of be a "format dependent?" Like if boons became good again it's technically not a failure anymore
Shattered Hope is a fitting name.
“Dying Light” DYING LIGHT GAME REFERENCE!?
Couldn't The Dredge make use of Alien Instinct since can travel across the map in that 5 seconds of a survivor being furthest away?
Dredge, Alien, Billy, Artist, Huntress etc can use that perk.
This video is a joke
I was tripping when bro Sayd Predator
Deathbound can be good if you have a faster killer or ranged
my dumbass just realized I've been using Dying Light on Oni. I think its a great perk, but never thought about how the healing bonus would affect me
I just want to say that i think "Genetic Limits" is a perk for slugging
Predator good work, for learning play spirit, if you have bad headphones)
Couldn’t u pair shattered hope with hex pentimento to get stacks?
I feel like Oblivious should stay hidden until you see the killer. By definition, you’re not oblivious if you know what’s going on.
We cant forget red herring
I disagree about dark devotion because that requires survivors know every perk in the game and dark devotion usually flies under the radar unless you’re going up against survivors with 2k+ hours
Ironically, you were playing perhaps the only killer that could use Beast Of Prey effectively. On Ghostface, survivors will throw a chase trying to break what they think is your Nightshroud, letting you get free hits by just following a survivor like a bot.
I’m just saying, grim embrace is not a failed perk. That perk, especially paired with deadlock is one of the most nasty combos to go against survivors by far. It is in fact such a good killer perk that it is used in most comp teams. As a killer man, let me tell you it is an absolutely amazing perk, and people shit on it for no reason
Can’t believe you’d post footage of you using such an op build. Come on, do you really need strong perks like Beast Of Prey, Deathbound, Shattered Hope, and Alien Instinct to win your games? Sounds like a skill issue /s
On a more serious note, I love Alien Instinct on Nurse. It’s singlehandedly won me a few tough games lately. Farthest injured survivor can mean any range; they can be across the map, or close enough for a blink attack. I’d recommend trying it on her!
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shattered hope didnt fail cause it came late, it failed cause it didnt do ANYTHING if survivors didnt bring a boon totem, making it the only perk in the entire game that can have 0 effect if the survivors didnt being or use a spacific type of perk
For Beast of Prey I just came up with a rework idea, curious what the general consensu here is:
Beast of Prey:
Whenever you break chase with a survivor, you gain 1% movement speed for 20/30/40 seconds or until a survivor loses a health state. This stacks indefinitely and refreshes when you break a new chase.
Hey bro does beast of prey remove heartbeat also?
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I **massively** disagree with genetic. you pair that with nurses calling or something and you're gonna be getting chases on folks who can't sprint burst from a heal or what not. it's **really** effective in my experience.
No, shattered hope is doing what it’s supposed to. Shattering the killer’s hope of getting value.
If I Had to rework Grim embrace, Once you get TWO Unique hooks this perk activates, All generators are Blocked for 20/25/30 seconds, and during that time they Regress at 95/105/115% of normal regression speed (non-Stackable) if Survivors are inside a 2 meter Horizontal radius of a Generator or working on one While Grim Embrace Activates, the generator will explode pushing them away by 3 meter and taking a Health state if uninjured, if injured they suffer from Broken and the visual effect caused by Knockout for 10 seconds.