‘There was never a Mughal state’: Hilal Ahmed on Muslims, secular parties, new India | NL Interview
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In his new book ‘A Brief History of the Present’, author and scholar Hilal Ahmed has tried to reimagine the space for minorities, especially Muslims, in the “new India”.
In a conversation with Manisha Pande, Hilal says the Muslim community is usually represented by two extremes in the media - either fundamentalist voices or individuals who criticise Islam. Meanwhile, Hindutva politics has continued to gain strength, with secular parties failing to voice concerns fearing a loss of Hindu votes.
Amid this, historical figures such as Aurangzeb and Maharana Pratap have been politicised. Hilal says Aurangzeb’s heroic image is a creation of Hindutva politics. But how? And who is the true Indian Muslim? How does the community engage with politics? How do Muslims look at Islam and how can they negotiate their space in the new India?
Hilal says, “Figures like Rana Pratap and Aurangzeb are political figures. These are not historical figures. There wasn’t any Mughal state. It was a Mughal-Rajput state. It was a Mughal-Rajput state even during Aurangzeb. So when a temple was demolished, what were the Rajputs doing?”
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@@newslaundry if it is true public service, you should not be asking us to pay for it. At least this kind of interviews should be free so that more people will watch and benefit.
Prophet Mohammad was more political then any figure in this world. Bhai taliban ko support nahi karne ko kaha tha nashiruddiin. Tum log jabardasti unke upar ye daal rahe ke unhone tumhe liberal hone ko kaha. Muslims n liberalism is quite opposite thing.😂 Media talks about facts ryt . Let's talk about fact only.I will talk about migration in all muslim countries in whole world.number of sikh and hindus, yazidi prople ahmedi in pakistan and many more community endless list.Matlab what this guy want. I seriously don't like this u wanna play victim politics.
Prophet Mohammad was more political then any figure in this world. Bhai taliban ko support nahi karne ko kaha tha nashiruddiin. Tum log jabardasti unke upar ye daal rahe ke unhone tumhe liberal hone ko kaha. Muslims n liberalism is quite opposite thing.😂 Media talks about facts ryt . Let's talk about fact only.I will talk about migration in all muslim countries in whole world.number of sikh and hindus, yazidi prople ahmedi in pakistan and many more community endless list.Matlab what this guy want. I seriously don't like this u wanna play victim politics. And last thing inse cross question kyu nahi. Ye aayenge gyaan pel ke chale Jayenge bas? We all know jab political leaders se cross question nahi hota we weep a lot. To agar inhone ek theory de. Uska ha ha karke accept kar lenge. Aur agar nahi aata question puchna to go and join line of godi media.
Prophet Mohammad was more political then any figure in this world. Bhai taliban ko support nahi karne ko kaha tha nashiruddiin. Tum log jabardasti unke upar ye daal rahe ke unhone tumhe liberal hone ko kaha. Muslims n liberalism is quite opposite thing.😂 Media talks about facts ryt . Let's talk about fact only.I will talk about migration in all muslim countries in whole world.number of sikh and hindus, yazidi prople ahmedi in pakistan and many more community endless list.Matlab what this guy want. I seriously don't like this u wanna play victim politics.
Hi chi*kali.... please don't tell false history, i swear if situation like bangladesh happens in india then they won't let you go just because you support them , all are equal before their maksad.
Who built Taj Mahal? You will immediately say Shajahan! But who demolished Kashi Mathura temples? Not Aurangzeb, but Mughal Rajput state! Wah! This is not just disingenuous. It is absurd!
The interviewer should've asked these questions, but what else can you expect from a sold out media.
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@@kafka1343😂 self loathing isn’t it ?
Sahi kaha! Aur.... Aap ki taarif ?
Wrong...Dhruv's contents doesnt match with this news channel..
Babur was a tourist in India not an invader 😂😂😂
Wait for another 20 years, pretty sure what you said will be taught in our schools. That's exactly what the left want. Just kneel to the Islamists.
Going by this logic, there was never a British Raj, because the government was mostly Indiannif you go by the numbers. Secondly, the Britishers are not responsible for the impoverishment and the famines that occurred in India, because the Indians didn't object when the British were emptying India of its wealth.
@@user-wu4sk8fn2j You are right. Indians made the slavery possible by working with the british. Who do you think managed the day to day activities of british...it was your brahmin clerks....baniya merchants....kshatriya policemen etc. Farmers were probably the only ones oppressed by everyone.
The British emptied the coffers of India and deliberately enacted policies that promoted the starvation and weakening of Indians so they remained in servitude and not a threat to the British raj but at the same time the British imperialists laid the foundation of modern India through sweeping social reforms, democratic institutions, civil services, schools and colleges, hospitals, railways, roads, bridges, ports, cities, town planning and civic infrastructure, posts and telegraph and the English language. It was more of a Jekyll and Hyde rule.
There was no “Republic of India” just as there was no United Kingdom or United States of America. British - or rather just the English (not Scots or Irish) - came to India and used citizens of Rajput Empire against the Citizens of Maratha Empire (just an example - not suggesting this is what happened). So this idea of India was enslaved is not enslavement of a political entity but a geographic region called India.
Yes Mughals who fid invade were of Turkic origins and most who joined them were geographically Indians. Nader Shah - the Persian hated the Mughals and plundered Delhi - but went back to Persia. So a Muslim ruler of Persia invaded a Muslim empire of the Mughals, it was just business.
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Because upper castes were least bothered about the country instead of helping their country men @@minkusingh4681
In Mughal Rajput Era, there were Rajputs in POWER with rulers. They would have objected if Govt demolished Indian Culture or Temples.
Same way as we did in British India, we have numerous proof that Indians were not party to atrocities. Revolt of 1857, was just a perfect example, non cooperation movement, swadeshi movement etc
But why cant Rajput did so when Mughals were on demolition drive in India.
Question everything don't get bogged down by your own political favouritism otherwise you will be used as a tool to further the political agenda.
It is not even biased........it is a complete False .......seems like fictional book
Have you read the book
@@amoghavarsha5715 yes , obviously
It is called Takkiya
Absolutely
Al Taqia @@sandhyas1292
His background is in Politics not History. Time to close the video 😂
And a Hindu interviewer literally refuses to ask counter questions. Shame on her.
Those who are asking Newslaundry to comment on the current ongoing attacks and killing of Hindus in Bangladesh. Please dont ask them to comment because they will make a video. But that video will be on the lines of justifying the killing under the garb of revolution and overturning the dictatorial regimes. They will say that Muslims are protecting the minorites bht wont tell from whom. And honestly that will be painful to watch. So its better that Newslaundry doesnt make a video on this issue.
Why u people make to Hindu Muslims.
That was the Chhatr league goons those are With HASINA and attack minorities but not Other.
Because they can create a political fear and go to Akash Banerjee channel watch Hindus r Being tortured .
Which Scale is important for Judging to anyone not few incidents.
Well said. Glad many like you are waking up.
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Going by this logic, there were no invaders in India at all, because if there were invaders, what were the people who were getting invaded doing?
@@unsung.2770
He is talking about common Muslims living right now in india
What is there part
What muslims did to India is nothing what British Portugal French did to India..still indians have nothing problem in that
@@Msd-d1b Going by your logic Reservation should not exist because why are General and OBC are paying reparations for their ancestors deeds?
@@Msd-d1b Abdul Hameed got Param Vir Chakra. SRK donates for plastic surgery of acid attack victims.Mohammad Shami got many crucial wickets for India
@@unsung.2770 Reservation still exists coz the upper class corrupted and exploided Dalits , Shudras and other lower class people , which created a really high Economical instability in between Lower casts which is being passed to their Next generation Until now , Millions of such stories where lower class people are still struggling to afford education as education is the biggest buisness now , Millions of stories of young minds who fighted hard with their economical instability that they couldn't even afford daily life resources and its much more harder with growing inflamation........
@@faizspitsfaxx But why Brahmins don't have any ancestral property compared to other communities?
He is full of shit.... Talking crap to just get attention
I am not scholar like Hilal ahmed.
A common sense question ..Many indian muslims work in Government run by BJP. Does that mean Muslim Govt employees approve of all action of Narendra modi ? Many muslim worked in government /Police/Miliary when disputed Babri masjid was destroyed..does that mean muslim govt employees agreed with it. Can we say Muslim-BJP destroyed the disputed masjid ?
Similarly. ..just because Rajput were part of Muslime administration , how can we assume they were willingly allowing destruction of temples ?
another question to the scholar sir I may be wrong, Is it true that when Akbar took over the kingdom at young age., he was comparitively ignored by Nobles of Tukish/Persian origin..who felt they were more suited to run the state that the young boy. To strengthen his position, he aligned with Rajput., but still from whatever i read..atleast 70-80% of rulers in Akbar time were muslim not of indian origin., but turkish/persian origin. It was higher amongest his ancestors.
Disputed structure not Desputed masjid
🤣🤣🤣🤣 laughing so hard after reading your comments. Do you know how Muslims feel or did you try to understand Muslims.
@@Dhuf657Every masjid on Hindu holy land is illegal and disputed
Sahih al-Bukhari 2658 -- The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Isn't the witness of a woman equal to half of that of a man?"
The women said, "Yes." He said, "This is because of the deficiency of a woman's mind."
Lies lies and more lies. What is the credibility of media like these?
‘Islam does not permit destruction of others places of worship😢.‘
What is sura Taha 63 sahi bukhari??
People are crying here in the comments just because the speaker is going against their hateful ideology. Get well soon, friends.🥀
7:15 As someone who doesn't believe in god and read both Hindu and Islamic scriptures, here he's definitely lying. Shahi bukhari allows or even encourages Muslims to destroy all the idols of kafirs. When you're making a point lying won't work. On the other things i agree
Site preference.... If u r truthful
Rajputs were a part of Mughal nobility, but that doesn't justify calling Mughal state as Mughal-Rajput state. Because there were many many others nobles such as the Afghans, Turks, Uzbeks, and most prominent ones were mostly Persians. Later even Marathas became part of Mughal administration.
@@HumanBeing-jj3mc no they refused to part of Mughal administration
@@VivekKamble-ir4xq many prominent maratha figures were part of mughal
There was literally matrimonial relations between them. Wikipedia their marriage lists. They were hand in hand running the empire with Mughal having big share. Aurangzeb's dadi was rajput
@@cinefile0075 they had more number and of marriage alliances with turks and persians than rajput ..akbar humayun aurangzeb all had persian mothers.. Jehangir too born of rajput is a myth there was no jodhabai ever existed.. Jehangir in his autobiography doesn't call amer princess as his mother.. Only person through rajput women was shah jahan.. Even aurangjeb named azam shah as next heir to throne who was born of safavid princess
In fact if you go to in list of mughal nobilities only 25 percent nobles were rajput rest turks Afghans persisns with persians being dominant
Also rajput marriages were forced the amer princess harkha bai whom fictional character jodha is based on.. Her marriage with mughal akbar only happened because.. Sarifuddin akbar's brother in law took amer prince as hostage
So most rajput marriages were forced even without consent
@@cinefile0075 wow
Ye propaganda ab nhi chalega is desh me 😡 😡 😡 😡 😡 😡 😡
This man saying anything and this anchor not even asking for source of his information not even link is provided about his source. He saying hindu temple were destroyed with the consent of some hindu people, thats a big clame. And this anchor and everyone in the comments section taking it to the face value. Guys please start thinking rationally and start question these extraordinary claims.
@@VivekSingh-pu1im bro that's a promo. Picture abhi baki h mere dost
Expect such narratives as long as muslims are minority. Afterwards they will start breaking again. It's a basic part of their religion 😢
@@rashidrazakhan9153 kya picture
@@rashidrazakhan9153 seen the full interview, nope didn't provide any source of information. He is just like any other guys who say things in sophisticated manner and sound very intelligent but didn't provide any historical evidence. I suggest you to read Vikram sampath who is the real historian and also provided reference and evidence. Doesn't make any claim as he wishes
@@VivekSingh-pu1im You are very correct. As Vikram is telling the truths only, he is hated by the so called peaceful religion people, sudo secularists, leftists etc.
So much nonsense, MMD himself has destroyed idols and religious places, There is no religion in the world that can claim that they've never done this to others. Even Buddhists have committed genocides..
There are plenty in the comment section lapping up to this guy's narrative. It's shameful to misrepresent history, let alone defend it with lies.
Buddhists never commit genocide.Genocide is a practice of western and middle east countries. By genocide only religion spread in the middle east starting from the earliest days of Islam
If demolishing any place of worship is absolutely not permitted in islamic sense how did Mohammad break the idols of makka?
And don't forget Bambyan statues.
Makka was made my Adam (a.s) but they didn't made the idols. The history is long and interesting try to find out on TH-cam or Google how and why they were built in makka after Adam (a.s) died.
@@abosayeednazari3809 really we are seeing that in our neighborhood. Islam 1400 sal phle paida hua aur kabza idol worshipers ne kiya. Wah
@@abosayeednazari3809 First man was muslim? How do you know?Because its written in Quran. So how do you know its correct? Because it came to prophet muhammad. How do you know he is prophet? Because its written in quran. Welcome to circular logic of quran
@@abosayeednazari3809 afganistan bhi hai aur bewakoof theory of evolution kha gya
7:10 demolition of places of worship is absolutely not permissible in Islamic sense. Says a person of a religious identify whose own prophet first and foremost destroyed idols as soon as he won mecca.
Yes he did broke them as they were kept inside Kaaba and its Muslims sacred place coz Prophet Ibrahim PBUH and Prophet Ish'maeel PBUH built it with their hands , Secondly Muslims had a peace treaty "A contract" signed with Quraysh tribe that they won't attack each other neither will they bother each other which Quraysh tribe broke and collaborated with Other tribes and declared a war against Muslims all of a sudden Muslims were looted , K'!!ed and got dragged out of Mecca for 13 years and Muslims didn't fought them as Islam means peace but after 13 years of suffering Allah SWT sent a verse which allowed Muslim to fight back and conquer Kaaba , Which Muslims fought and won , Also the People of the Quraysh who accepted there mistake and accepted defeat and wanted to seeke refuge under Muslims were forgiven and they were granted protection , As Quraysh Broke the peace treaty Muslims had no obligation to follow the contract either and we took back our Kaaba , You people only read some snippets out of the whole Quran than make a perception lol 😶🌫
😂😂, you're questioning this ,so can you please tell ,kaba was mandir or idol worship place since starting?? You need to study the history of Mecca and especially kaba .and please answer my question.
Let's do a debate.about your question.will you??
@@logicalatheist he destroyed idols because mecca pre idol worshipping era, was actually use to practice monotheism.... You should not disregard prophet of islam's ruling for muslims expansion, he asked muslims to protect temples and places of worship of other religion categorically... If his ruling wouldn't have present, in india with 800 years of Muslim rule, no temples would have left it the ruling was not there.
@@Political___Economy_ no protection he and his later caliphate gave to the zoroastrians in iran. nice protection his followers and caliphate gave to the buddhists of Afghanistan. You're not fooling anybody dum dum.
Newslaundry seems to live upto its own name. It does a fabulous job of washing away the sins of one side!
What about Hindus being killed at this moment in Bangladesh?
HOW about it ? "Learn to think " is easy to say to you,but how could you possibly do that? You need grey cells for that.
@@royrand8521kya bachodi karra usne jo pucha wo bta
@@royrand8521 oh man. This delusional intellectual arrogance would never allow you to understand jo ho raha hai woh kyun ho raha hai. Everyone who doesn't has the same views as me "lacks grey cells" is the stupidest worldview one can have.
@@jayantabsarma bro its fake news
Its indian media propaganda , just to provoke hindu nationalists so that they will do something wrong to indian muslims
What were Rajput kings doing? Sawai Jai Singh 2 bought land specially to keep the legacy alive and rebuilt the temple
Dear team News Laundry, I humbly request to have a look on this comment.
The arguments given by Mr Hilal need to be rationally countered rather than nodded just because he’s a professor. I’m raising only three points:
1. “Mugal-Rajput state”: He’s confusing the audience with the word “State” and not using “Empire”. He forgets to say there was Mugal-Rajput state under Mugal Empire. On temple demolition, he asks what were Rajputs doing in that state?
Now, will it be valid to ask what were Rajputs doing in the British Empire and therefore Rajputs are also responsible for whatever wealth British looted from India and the rest of the other atrocities?
Rajputs were trying to survive, they fought with Mughals (Rana Sanga, Ajja Jhala and more) and they mostly lost, they had to work with Mughals, that doesn’t mean they agreed with each and every thing what Mughals were doing.
For example, Mr Hilal must be asked if Rajputs were happy with Mughals imposing Jizya tax?
2. He says, “this heroic image of Aurangzeb is outcome of Hindutva politics “! Really? He’s mocking history by saying this. Aurangabad is cherished by Muslim community from the time of his reign. This notion must have been countered by the anchor.
3. He says, “… figures like Rana Pratap, Aurangzeb; these are political figures, these are not historical figures…”. On what basis he says that? Is it on the basis of how people or a group of people see these figures or he’s saying in the context of history writing?
I feel things must be put in an unbiased manner rather than seemingly leaning towards any particular direction and anchors asking tough and logical questions to any so called scholar.
Regards
3500- 4000 years ago aryans came in india and beaten the Dravidians and brought their idols and after invasion made their kingdom and imposed casteism...divided the society in castes.....
When 1200 years ago the Turks and Arabs came to india....now the former Aryan invaders started crying...and told local population that look new invaders came....
Aryan invaders crying against a new invasion that took power from them....its ironic...
Why all dalits can't be pundits and read Religious books....
THERE ARE NO ARYAN DRAVIDIAN
THESE ARE ALL CREATION OF CHURCH TERRORIST TO FOOL PEOPLE
I admire Dr. Hilal Ahmed. Unfortunately, the current trend in India seems to reject nuanced arguments. People seem to favor a viewpoint that aligns with their political and ideological leaders.
Aurangzeb was bisexual and ge had a affair with his wife brother, that's my claim. Now u must be thinking what a stupid man I'm to say that or u will say I'm andhbhakt or u will ask me for the source of information. I get it, but why are u denying my claim but accepting his claim which are never heard of on the face value just because he is a professor. Does any questions arise in ur mind while listening to this interview or u r just accepting it whatever he says, if u r doing that then I'm sorry to say brother u have not developed any rational thinking and can be easily manipulated by any media house, ur the perfect audiance for these kind of media.
Leftist and i$lamist of india 🇮🇳 are trying to do the same thing in india by throwing elected gov. They want to create anarchy in india, if u watch the left puppet youtubers like @The deshbhakt @Dhruv rathee @Ravish kumar @Arfa khanum etc u will notice that they are happy and supporting these protest of Bangladesh (bcz its not a student protest but a potential CIA operation to change thd regime) knowing that its not good for india 🇮🇳 and minority of Bangladesh. We should support our gov in this though geo political situation 🙏
Here comes a liberal / secular Hindu apologist who'd lap up everything Muslims throw at you.
I can proove him wrong right now right here
@@abhinavpapa Wish i had this amount of confidence, expertise and hubris😶🌫
Is this guy a sanatani tana tani muslims serving the agenda of Mr. Godi Xi??? oh Sorry Mr. Godi Ji?
secular muslim is a oxymoron. whoever says it neither understand secularim nor understand Islam
After this, I am ashamed that I used to watch newslaundry
At 7:12 of your video Hilal Ahmed stated: "Demolishing any place of worship in Islamic sense is absolutely not permissible". I think Newslaundry should have asked him to provide any reference from Quran and Hadith prohibiting or declaring it Haram to demolish places of worships of Kafirs (Non Muslims). I think that Hilal Ahmed is incorrect is saying so. As per my understanding the fact is that Islam requires the demolition of places of worship of Kafirs.
Just answer one thing why did they proclaimed themselves as "Ghazi" ?
Itna white karna nahi chahiye history ko .
I hope this guy knows what he is saying...
Most apologists don't know what they're saying. But they surely are confident when they're lying.
Muslims already got one portion of India isolated by polarisation and political negotiations. What more do they want now in India.
there were even Jagirs given to Jats , Gujjars , Ahirs , Sikh and Marathas by Mughals so better call it Mughal-Rajput-Jats-Gujjars-Ahir-Sikh-Maratha state
A mullah will be mullah first
Then he may be scholar but still peddle narrative of Aurangzeb
HILAL AHMED should stop using AL TACQUIYAH to fool PUBLIC
THOSE TIMES ARE LONG OVER
You can't change karma, kismet, destiny of the past. Reality was and will be what it is. Mughals, Rajputs, Marathas, Sultanates etc when powerful ruled to protect their own against adversity with the reality of their times. Today this diverse history is being perception manipulated by impotent vested interest political, communal or otherwise to gain importance. Humans are being inhumane in God's name to each other. What the country needs is " mind your own business culturally and live and let live." Livelihood even under ideal conditions is not easy. Don't make it harder for common citizens.
क्या तमाशा हुआ इस्लाम की तक़दीर के साथ
क़त्ल ए शब्बीर हुआ नारा ए तकबीर के साथ
•- अल्लामा इक़बाल
Religious extremism has to be rejected by people of that particular religion only that way can people rise up and prosper. Hindus have mostly been able to do that, they have slowly and steadily rejected religious dogma and chosen logic and science primarily and religion as a spiritual guide. Most of the Hindu society has achieved that. This path actually has been shown by the Christian community in India. While on the other hand the Muslim society majorly has reform itself from within. They have to reduce their dependency on religion for community building. The elite Muslim has used religion as a tool to remain elite and rich within their own community all the while spreading dogma within their own community to remain influential. The same strategy is used by BJP walas who have gained power through religion. The always try to spread dogma and fear in the Hindu community for their own relevance. But Hindus are smart to realise that from time to time. Most muslims on the other simply are happy playing the victim card.
I don't know how you say that Hindus have chosen logic and science when so many hindu still believe in pseudoscience of all kinds.
Right । But Not all the Protest are just for playing Victim Card .
@@rounakrizvi2915protest only happens when people consider themselves victim.
@@sukhenbhowmick3709 তো কি মার খেলে আ উ ও করা যাবে না ??
U r living in delema that hindus are having logical thoughts.
U can talk about yourself not for every hindu.
Same goes for muslims and any other religion
Hilal Ahmed is playing politics. He is playing the victim card in a Hindu nation.
All religion should be banned in india. Matter close. Faith is the most distructive thing.
I agree about the latter part
Thats the funny part. The left love the opium.
destructive hota hain bhai edit karlo ...baki apka baat sahi hain
Really .....then no holidays coz I Indian holidays are on religious base.....Hindus celebrate max religious festivals
@@rehmatansari83 We can create a few. Like Shakthiman day.
Main to bas yaha inka rona dekhne aaye tha 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Mr. Hilal, I think it will be better that Muslims acknowledge the history of Islamic Iconoclasm. The moment you uttered "when a temple was demolished, what were the Rajput doing", you are compromising your secular credential.
I think reconciliation is the only way forward, not brushing the facts under the carpet. It takes two to tango.
Well said. Seems Muslims don't have it in them to accept their mistakes. They'll resort to whataboutism, diversion, even lies, but will never accept their wrongs.
🎉 BJP rss ideologue mostly have comments in comment section 😄😄😄.
Very interesting.
I always love this man and his thoughts
i think he may be right in saying if mughals were destrying structures what tge so called noble warrior clans in the hundu religion were doing? and not every hindu warrior clan was incapable of facing muslim rulers. the thing is so called warrior clans of hindu religion had an interest in expanding their kingdom by taking cobtrol of other hindu kingdoms. and therefore not many of so called hindu warrior clans were really interedted in protecting hindu religion at cost of their kingdom. and as far as muslim people defending people of their religion is concerned they do it even if they had to make up so called facts to show muslims can 9nly do good and there hasnt been anything wrong in islam
This narrative has been debunked by many Historians. By the way, it's one thing when your father hits you, it's another when you neighbour's father hits you right? There were Shia-Sunni conflicts, but Muslims don't see it in the same light as they do the conflict with Christians during the crusades right? Why? Don't dilute the atrocities committed by Islamic invaders. Just accept it and move on.
Time now for making videos on Bangladesh Hindus not burried mughals
Oversimplification and oversimplification. This book should be given to people who want to understand what a strawman argument is. 😂
Yeh programme hindi mein bhi banaye please
I can't give my opinion without watching full interview or reading the full book. But when he says there was a "mugal -rajput" state not just mugal state. It is absolutely comprehensible. That is the first thought came in my mind when i was in school that what the hell these hindus were doing if the temples are broken..
EITHER the external rulers or attackers of those time were more better , powerful, and modernized than us OR our rulers, stakeholders, societal structure was too weak and fragile that it collapsed.
And we should accept that.. move on the path of upcoming centuries.
And again u didn't even ask for his source of information
@@VivekSingh-pu1im this is just a common sense. Rajputs were sentapati of mugals and muslims were also there in rajput side.
But it is fact that no one can rule anywhere without the support of locals. And which locals? Those locals who are the stakeholders of that land.
Rajput in northern-western India were the main stakeholders, some got defeated while some got mixed with muslims as their part.
Politicians in any time live for controlling and ruling on the people. They just want to remain in power anyhow. Even today. So they also did the same.
IT WAS A MUGHAL-RAJPUT STATE. There is no shame in accepting that. And it is just a common sense brother.. even Britishers could not have ruled here without the support of local stakeholders of the society there. They came , they were better , so they fight , they won. But they ruled only when someone accepted their slavery. Maharana prtap didn't accept that.. he was a great warrior so he fought but never succeeded. But he also had muslims in his army, even shivaji also had. Mughals and Britishers ARE THE VERY IMPORTANT history of INDIA.. next India is built on the learnings of that by our freedom fighters like bhagat singh, nehru, gandhi, bose , patel .
But sadly what RSS is doing and brainwashing the youths is very very terrible. They are the real Jihadis in the name of fake hindupna or fraudulent nationalism.
No aurangjeb was run by a maulanas his policy was to impose jaziya break temples
@@vision_111Its feels so much great after literally witnessing someone who accepts the past, is living in the present and want to create future. What you said is true brother in those times it wasn't just the mughals but our ancestral hindu and atheist rulers too, there still was a diversity. I would support RSS only for their role of preserving and preaching hindutva and not for repeating the history all back again by victimizing the ancestors and forcing upon others.
@@sukhchainpatel80 Good , but those who make them "thekedar" of hindutva for preserving it. They are self proclaimed thekedar for the political interests majorly.
I'm hindu, Aryan, my grandfather hindu, great grandfather hindu, all previous generation hindu, even in all the generations of mother, grandmothers , were hindu only. My all next generation will be hindu only.
Why the hell do they want to PREACH to me their "hindupna".
This makes them like those Muslim molanas who make Jihadis.
I'm proud of being hindu bcoz I'm free to debate, cross questioning, non believing in wht you believe, pluralistic, accepting, co-existing. I can go to temples as I want.. no one can preach me Or I can choose not to go at all. And many more liberty...
BUT they are just trying to bind all the things as per their narratives , which is similar to these new religions like Christianity, islam etc.
Please note, All secular Indians, india was ruled by Muslim rulers for almost 850-900 years. At the time the Majority of administration and top ministers were upper cast Hindu Brahmins. While Muslims were ruling india. Those are upper the cast Hindu people running Muslim kingdom for all 800 years, except some initial few years. If any atrocities might have done by those rulers, it is not the Muslim rulers, it all happen by the initiative and blessing of those Hindu upper cast who use to take major decisions and manipulate the admin to prove their self interest. So even at the time Muslim were ruling india , it was controlled by high cast Hindus like todays india.
"free me itna hi milega"
Me: Thank God.
Can we pay for a particular video, like this one, to watch them in their entirety?
My straight question, is islam eligible for a secular or democracy land for living...?
yes brother...
Nope
Dhruv Rathi University!
Not clear with your statement ... 'if temples were demolished?' .... you are questioning this very fact .... are you suggesting tbay ASIs report on Babri Masjid is false .... what one sees in Gyanbapi is an illusion?
Why no one is talking about the Hindus in Bangladesh, Pakistan or Muslims tortured in China. Why is it always Muslims being tortured in India, especially when their population has increased since independence... I'm sick of this narrative ... Does news laundry have courage to talk about Muslims tortured in China ...do it! Show some steel man
One of the main reason I personally don't like Newslaundry is because of the fact that they are extremely left leaning media. Yea this doesn't mean they do not work hard for their ground reports infact they have the best ground reports team (look how they covered Delhi). But where are they when post poll violence was at its peak in Bengal. Near Central media news is actually supported by Deshbhakt by Akash Banerjee.
Newslaundry is very balanced without any leanings, but in the world where the norm is skewed towards the "Right", anything that is balanced and unbiased would sound "Left"!
@@mirfan-ullah6014 excellent analysis and this is true. That's why in the US there is a news portal called Ground report that actually shows how much left and right leaning each and every media are. For example when Trump was attacked by the assassin just a few days back the headlines of left and right leaning media are absolutely different. Newslaundry actually has done a great work but this was my absolute personal view.
@@mirfan-ullah6014 Yes, the balanced for you ought to downplay any atrocities against Hindus and any aggression by the second majority of India.
@@souvikchakraborty3620 Newslaundry has been caught fabricating stories and giving false spins to controversial events they cover many times in the past.
Why is it that in every Muslim majority situation, the radical Islam is established. The moderate and educated Muslims should lead Islamic reformation and certain aspects of Islam needs to be publicly disagreed by them. These are Gazwa e Hind , Jihad, rights of women , treatment of Kafirs, sex slavery and so on. Or else these talks have limited value.
His logic has so much holes as there is on Indian roads.
stop calling aurangzeb your hero- imagine people calling hitler hero. Or else Netanyahu being called a hero- a wali- a prophet also.
Haven't you still realised that these figures are actually portrayed as modern days hero
इस तरह के इंटरव्यू हिंदी भाषा में होने से यह विचार और चिंतन ज्यादा लोगों तक पहुंच सकेगा🙏
He is absolutely correct that it was a mughal-rajput state, hundreds (if not thousands) of royal rajput girls were married into mughal nobility throughout mughal rule. rajputs were always shoulder to shoulder with their supreme mughal masters when mughals launched all out campaign against marathas in deccan, same rajputs were the major roadblock for marathas in north India after annihilating the mughal power and putting puppet of their choice on mughal throne. Some rajput royals even helped that barbarian afghan looter abdali in third battle of Panipat. Even in 1947 there were some rajput royals who wanted to be part of pak over India, in fact one of the royal house is still there in pak.
@@bindaasmard664 You forget to mention that Marathas were the most prolific looters ever in the history of this country. They had looted so much that when they went to fight Abdali, only the Jats turned up to help them, and they were so unscrupulous that they tried to steal from the Jats as well.
There are poems in northern and southern regions where people still remember the terror of Marathas, who spared neither children nor elderly. They took grain from regions which were struck by famine even when they were the reason for famine.
If people knew real history, they would all hate each other, because the reality is that all the various rulers everywhere backstabbed each other whenever they could. The Rajputs intervened with Aurangzeb to spare Shivaji and the Marathas, and the Marathas later paid them back by stabbing them in the back.
@@saintofall3653 why you are making personal remarks ? no power was saint in medieval history, not even in the west. marathas at least had guts n courage to completely annihilate those barbarian invaders when they were at their peak unlike north indian puny warrior clans who made marriage alliance with those invaders for so many centuries !!!!! Go and read about marathas presence in orissa or come to chennai (my home town) just outside the city there is huge presence of maratha heritage which proves how huge chunk of land they liberated and protected from the invaders which no other north inidian puny warrior clan could do. Long before marathas crossed narmada river your guys were paying the same tax + jiziya to the mughals, they even allowed them to destroy temples in north india without any resistance, that's exactly what this guy is saying. The north indian puny warrior clans only resisted marathas after they wiped out mughals off India, just goes onto prove how much narrow minded and self centric those kinnars were whom you are so proud of.
@@mardrandibaaz4367😂😂 what? When ur Marathas were under bijapur and ahmadnagar sultanates then north was almost liberated under those clans.
Lol rajput Mughal war began in 1679 when Aurangzeb reimplemented jazia. Mewar, Marwar, Bundelkhand revolted and faught from 1679.. That's why Aurangzeb shifted his capital to Ajmer to invade Marwar and then Mewar. Rajput nobility was less under Aurangzeb compare to Marathas.
@@tinkujiya1332 what a joke 😂😂😂 rajputs always were under the mughals and before that under the turkish clans for so many centuries. How did so many temples disappear from the north of those joke clan of yours were so powerful ? Why there are so many ancient temples in southern n western part of India than the cowbelt hindi bimaru heartland ?
Few Rajput's had alliance with Turks , and that alliance was done on in such way that none of them accepted i#₹lam , not a single temple in Rajasthan was demolished in Rajasthan , not a sigle district of Rajasthan is name after a m#gal ।
Bangla sahib gurudwara was gifted by kachwaha rajputs , Taj Mahal was under mirja raja jai singh ।
Kachwahas build thousands of temples during the mugal reign ।
I don't know what kind of historian is this guy
Actually they are partners here along with the Christians and Jews. .they have made the country each in their own way. .and these three should be a group the protect.
Hnnnn, hum hindu hi terrorist hain aur India m immigrants bhi hum hi hain muslims to bechare peaceful h kisi se muh bolke bhi nhi jaante. Nhi humari hi glti h jo hum iss desh m paida ho gaye. Ek kaam karte h hum Hindus desh chhodke hi chale jaate h baaki bechare peaceful muslims ko yhi rhne dete h.
Muslims ruled India with the help of Rajputs. Without Rajput's help , the Mughal rule could have collapsed in the day. Whenever the Mughal army went to temple destruction, it was led by a Rajput।
That's politics, rajputs wouldn't have given in under muslim rule , but rajputs were subdued by brutal force of Mughals who massacre rajputs like anything
@@Political___Economy_ bro in fact Rajput kings like Rana Sanga invited Mughals to attack India. Please dig a little bit deeper and you will find that even when maratha, sikha and jats were fighting to finish the Mughals, Rajput's were with Mughals. Even at the time of partition, many large rajput states like Jodhpur and Bikaner wanted to join Pakistan as they were comfortable with Muslims. After independence, due to dalit assertiveness, Upper caste were fearful that's why they entered into a political alliance with Rajputs and made them acceptable. Otherwise in pre independence era , they were hated equally by lower caste and upper caste people for their support to earlier Mughal and later to British rule.
@@Progbkn07 sorry, you are right.. they did have fight though ?
Which temple was destroyed by Rajput in mughal rule ?
@@gnmurthy not in mughal rules... But hindu kings kept destroying other pagan kings place of worship, they hate each other idols, different gods were worshipped in different regions... So , they hate each other gods, hence destroying each ither temples to make them economically weaker, because temple was the place, where pagans fooled people and use to collect daan or used to justify kings policies at that time to the people..
Interfaith marriages should be acceptable with out any conversion; and couple should have the heart to make their kids follow the both the faiths with equal respect
Inter faith marriage is available.
So what wrong with that.
@@majidallgamingchannel9797 Nothing wrong with that as long as both parties don't impose their faith on each other
@@FreddieMurphy746 Forced is wrong .
@@majidallgamingchannel9797 Forced, or otherwise is wrong. It takes ages for someone to study and understand religion; anyone who converts for marriage is forced ( it could be emotional blackmail, or physical force)
@@majidallgamingchannel9797 interfaith marriage where is the law which says not to marry idolators and only men mentioned are allowed to marry.
Love muslim & liberal for mughal
If some one talks about a country of present times, he should also know about its historical past. Islam is a religion that has crept in to India by force and inducements. Islamic caliphate is the slogan of many Muslims in India. They want their Sharia law to be implemented in India. The way the Muslims behave when they are non- cognisable minority, cognisable minority or a lean majority or a countable majority differs from - we always respect and follow the natives attitude to what we say should be law and all non Muslims these laws. There are large number of instances where in a certain locality they are in very great number- they put up no entry to others. If the Muslims live in harmony with the larger population of the country with love and affection, with out asking the natives to abandon their own customs and say that their own -Muslims - should be allowed the problem arises. When the Muslims and the others in country can live in peace and harmony without any rupture to the customs and practices of larger population, the country will flourish and with the country the Muslims also will flourish.
To all crying what he is saying is history not mythology pls take time and do research on this these all are facts just bcoz someone doesnt match your ideology doesnt mean he is wrong😂
Yeah! I researched his statement of "Aurangazeb was imposed on us" and found out it was Romila Thapar and Irfan Habib who did that! Strange!! Hindutvavadis, S. L. Bhyrappa, K.K Mohmmad were saying the same thing and we were informed to reject it as outright intellectual fascism by the very same leftist intellegencia 😅.
@@cross1928 already researched didn't find any thing that suggests hindu kings gave concent to destroy temples. Now I want to suggest to read the Quran and Hadith then u will find out the mindset of muslims and why they always wants to demean hindu history. I was just like you before reading quran and hadith but after reading it I understood everything.
Did you do your own research before claiming what he's saying is right? Pretty sure you just liked what you heard and defending it on here. Not everyone has to be a Historian to debunk someone's claim.
@@reach2prasannabhai mat behas self proclaimed intellectual hai wo
100 baaton ki ek baat Muslims jahan honge wahan Shanti nahin ho sakta..pure world me dekh Lena
Superb journalism. A true public service 👍
Without education on a [subject], we are at high risk of taking educated people seriously. And this is that video. But comment section is the light.
I do not give anyone the permission to speak on my behalf. I will not comment on the plight of millions of muslims living below the poverty line or allow the comparison of modern democracies like India ot its past kingdoms, nor do I think it is fair to blame and punish people practicing the same faith in this day & age for something someone did 500 years ago just because they seem to be of the same faith. In fact, people who decided to leave India during partition either of their volation or due to the fear of persecution have no connection to those who chose to stay back. Especially in Kingdoms of the aouth as they were nor even technically part of the freedom struggle.
He has immense power in his hand he can even reject raput senapati idea
Digest truth
Gaali bakna chahta hu, magar nahi bakunga...
@@kamalkaddu bak de bhai pllzz, bhut se logo ka pratidhingiv karega tu
Do it so i can report.
Han ab jiski jaisi aukaat sachayi hajam nahi hoti.
Kitna mushkil hai thoda sa sabhya hona, koshish jaari rakhiye!
What my briend you are saying! The Muslims-mughals are the one who created hindustan!
What nonsense! Please get your facts straight
Every one requested to report such misleading videos
Can a middle class Muslim rent a house in a big city like Delhi ?
There are Muslim ghettos in Kerala, TN, West Bengal, Mumbai, even Delhi where non-Muslims can't even wander, let alone live. So stop with your victim card.
Not as long as he is an UMMAH SLAVE
Jajia Impose on Hindus
Temple demolished of Hindus
those temple who came under Mughal regime are demolished.
If these community leader invaded other states land than they demolished temple .
According to him Islamic regime place of worship can't be demolished. So what Mughal and. Turk had done these country. Some people argue they will come to loot for wealth of temple so whey they demolished idols. Why they scratch wall paint if they come only for loot . don't sugar coat .
Stop fooling people! Don’t manipulate history.
You are a muslim, you said you stuck to the identity, and are studying muslim identity. How do disentangle you from your subject of study? What is the methodology that you are not biased?
@@jayantabsarma he is also saying that the demolition of the hindu worship places couldn't have happened without the consent of hindu figures. Has he done his research well? His muslim identity is making him biased in his opinion so much so that he will concoct information as hindus consented to have their places of worship to be demolished. Wow. Absolutely wow! Newslaundry is losing credibility since they keep inviting people like mehdi hasan n the person in interview and say that they are neutral but really they are just using their platform for so called minorities. He also said that social reform continued with RSS. And what are the political parties in the South doing then? Social engineering I guess. It's not difficult to see his internal biases clouding his judgement.
Would you ask this question if it was a Hindu doing research on Hindu topics? It is you who is biased.
@@Indimum if context is provided then yes. You see there is grounds for speculation in hindus. The sensible ones won't hesitate to call out bigots if we see one. Could you say the same for Muslims?
@@te-amo8076 Yes sometimes. Every religion has its fair share of people like that. Hindus are not special in this regard.
@@Indimumif it is factually false then why not.
Ppl report such mis information vedios....
Good Analysis
Not English language, but Hindi and Hindustani, Urdu
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They keep maintaining the silence on moblynching is indicate their support and they want to keep as it is which fullfill their agendas. But remember this type of crimes will not go on for long time but sometimes this might have reversed in such a way these hands will reach to the neck of law and order's representatives oneday with the guidance of Almighty.
Trying to justify false Version
"free m itna hi milega " bhai thank u. or jeher body na jhel pati
Seriously muslim Rajput do exists in Pakistan
@@drjagritisingh6569 yes Sindh area is full of sodha rajput
Not agree with his points, he needs to do fair n u biased research 🧐
The trailer is not inspiring enough for me to spend money
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If no destruction of religious places is allowed- what happened to hagia sofia. or the idols in mecca /medina ?
@@abosayeednazari3809 : hagia Sofia?
@@abosayeednazari3809 : there is no coexistence with evil is my pov. Just like nazis
@@soodabhi u need to cure ur self dude. nothing i can do.
@@abosayeednazari3809 what happens if other gods claim their home back? Like spain. Like Ram mandir in india
@@soodabhi good for them.
Quran 9:29 -- Fight against those who do not believe in Allāh or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allāh and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth [i.e., Islām] from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.
hahahahaha
This girl is the most irritating jouralist on internet. Be it the face or the way she talks. Feel sorry for her husband
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This laundry washed the reality down the drain. What remained on public display is fiction and straight off senseless bs. Classic newslaundry.