Well, they used to. And they're literally Gods, more than gods even. The Aedra make up the facets of our reality. It was their power, their energy that created Mundus(the physical plane). They can quite literally do whatever they please.
@@TheCourierIsValid they all have. Even minor Aedra like Dragons don't NEED to have a mortal body. That's why alduin was able to resurrect them. He simply pulled their soul back from Aetherius and rewound time so their bodies existed again, the shoved them back in. All Aedra and Daedra are higher beings, even scamps.
If you say "the Dawnguard would want me to kill you" as a regular person, Serana says "not fond of vampires are they?" If you say that as a vampire, Serana responds something along the lines of "they'll turn on you too when they find out what you are".
Using console codes and the Alternative start, 80% of my Skyrim playthroughs I start as a vampire lord. And as a vampire, I've started the Dawnguard quest and Isran hasn't even said a word to me. _Yet!_ But the mods Dark Envoy 3.3.2 and Ancient Blood Magic II are a vampire must.
I want to be a good vampire I'm wondering if I can just complete as many Dawnguard side quests as possible before turning vampire lord and possibly use illusion spells on them to buy me a troll but if that's not an option I'll either load a save to join Valkihar or just kill them both lol perhaps there's a mod on PlayStation that can allow me to be a vampire that hunts vampires.
Just get a "Dawnguard - Dark ally". It allows to walk among Dawguard while being a vampire, but as long as you carry vampire dust. The more character hateful towards vampires, the more vampire dust you should carry to speak with them.
So, basically you can't. You either a vampire or dawnguard. I prefer the supernatural powers and transformation. You can always be a werewolf and be dawnguard, but you might miss the Serana mod, but you can make her human, but it is not as fun.
@@Driamera thx guess I'll have to with standart crossbow I rethought it and actually I seen ppl that could get the special bolts even after siding with vamp and between the normal crossbow and max one is 3 points difference in base damage and the rest of the weapons aren't really interesting ig And vamp actually have some interesting restoration and stealth bonuses so guess they aren't bad after all
@@shadowgamer4108 i just now remembered I actually tested this, and made a video long time ago, you can check it out if you want th-cam.com/video/asIfIjtwzeo/w-d-xo.html
What if you become a vampire before starting the dawnguard questline? Can you even start it? I would guess no, since you need to meet Istan to start it, and i dont see that happen as long as you dont cure your vampirism
You can't become a full vampire before starting it. If you were to try doing it before getting bitten by Harkon or Serena it would just give you the weaker version which only really gives you life drain with the immunity and silence perks. You wouldn't get the vampire lord power. And either way if you were to have Harkon bite you and give you the power you immediately join the vampires instead. After getting bitten by Harkon, if you try going back to the Dawnguard they immediately attack you no questions asked. Hoep that answers your question 👍
If you become a vampire before the Dawnguard questline (a standard vampire) you can join the Dawnguard anyway. Then Isran sends you for Sorine and Gunmar. Once you return after finding them there comes a test where if you a vampire, Isran instructs you to cure your vampirism with a help of Falion. If you won't do that, the questline won't progress.
You can start it as a vampire. In fact, the only point it basically kicks you out of the Dawnguard quest will be during the part where Isran checks for vampires with the sun-floor; He'll comment that you've not attacked him up to this point, meaning you must have recently turned, and tells you to go get cured before you can be part of his club again.
@@Umbra_Ursus Yeah, since then I found it out the hard way. Could find a way around it, tho it would have been nice to complete the quest as an "undercover" vampire
@@Umbra_Ursus Later, being a vampire you can't do quests for Dawnguard and can't trade/train with Dawnguard members (I'm only not sure if all won't talk or some of them) - they will comment that you are sick.
If I understand your question correctly... Yes, you can get infected with vampirism and be cured. Speak to an innkeeper to trigger the quest "Rising at Dawn" Basically, you bring a filled soul gem to the priest/mage in Morthal (Falion) and there is a ritual to remove vampirism. The Dawnguard will accept you back once you have been cured. Or, you can refuse the initial gift. You get a "one free pass" at the vampire castle since you brough Serana home. Be mindful that there is a limit on the number of times you can become a Vampire Lord (I think it is twice), so just be mindful of that if you are switch between human and vampire.
@@onkelhehe5286don't say that as if you know its 100% correct. Even if you cure yourself after letting Harkon turn you into a vampire the dawnguard will still be hostile towards you. The only way to become a vampire after doing the dawnguard stuff is to let serena turn you during the soul cairn quest or after you finish the whole questline. either way after doing so they won't be good to speak wiht you
It's amazing how the eadra have no bodies but still can have offspring like dragons or dragon born
Well, they used to.
And they're literally Gods, more than gods even. The Aedra make up the facets of our reality. It was their power, their energy that created Mundus(the physical plane). They can quite literally do whatever they please.
@@TheCourierIsValid they all have. Even minor Aedra like Dragons don't NEED to have a mortal body. That's why alduin was able to resurrect them. He simply pulled their soul back from Aetherius and rewound time so their bodies existed again, the shoved them back in. All Aedra and Daedra are higher beings, even scamps.
If you say "the Dawnguard would want me to kill you" as a regular person, Serana says "not fond of vampires are they?"
If you say that as a vampire, Serana responds something along the lines of "they'll turn on you too when they find out what you are".
If only Isran could see that not all Vampires are Evil Monsters
Using console codes and the Alternative start, 80% of my Skyrim playthroughs I start as a vampire lord. And as a vampire, I've started the Dawnguard quest and Isran hasn't even said a word to me. _Yet!_
But the mods Dark Envoy 3.3.2 and Ancient Blood Magic II are a vampire must.
What are the orders?
I want to be a good vampire I'm wondering if I can just complete as many Dawnguard side quests as possible before turning vampire lord and possibly use illusion spells on them to buy me a troll but if that's not an option I'll either load a save to join Valkihar or just kill them both lol perhaps there's a mod on PlayStation that can allow me to be a vampire that hunts vampires.
Just get a "Dawnguard - Dark ally".
It allows to walk among Dawguard while being a vampire, but as long as you carry vampire dust. The more character hateful towards vampires, the more vampire dust you should carry to speak with them.
So, basically you can't. You either a vampire or dawnguard. I prefer the supernatural powers and transformation. You can always be a werewolf and be dawnguard, but you might miss the Serana mod, but you can make her human, but it is not as fun.
Is there any way I can join the dawnguard after choosing vampire lord? Like turning against vampire during the storyline
unfortunately no, after becoming a vampire lord they will banish you forever from dawnguard and they will be hostile while around u
@@Driamera thx guess I'll have to with standart crossbow
I rethought it and actually I seen ppl that could get the special bolts even after siding with vamp and between the normal crossbow and max one is 3 points difference in base damage and the rest of the weapons aren't really interesting ig
And vamp actually have some interesting restoration and stealth bonuses so guess they aren't bad after all
Would have been interesting if you could swap sides by curing vampire tho
@@shadowgamer4108 i just now remembered I actually tested this, and made a video long time ago, you can check it out if you want th-cam.com/video/asIfIjtwzeo/w-d-xo.html
@@Driamera will do, thank you
What if you become a vampire before starting the dawnguard questline?
Can you even start it?
I would guess no, since you need to meet Istan to start it, and i dont see that happen as long as you dont cure your vampirism
You can't become a full vampire before starting it. If you were to try doing it before getting bitten by Harkon or Serena it would just give you the weaker version which only really gives you life drain with the immunity and silence perks. You wouldn't get the vampire lord power. And either way if you were to have Harkon bite you and give you the power you immediately join the vampires instead. After getting bitten by Harkon, if you try going back to the Dawnguard they immediately attack you no questions asked. Hoep that answers your question 👍
If you become a vampire before the Dawnguard questline (a standard vampire) you can join the Dawnguard anyway. Then Isran sends you for Sorine and Gunmar. Once you return after finding them there comes a test where if you a vampire, Isran instructs you to cure your vampirism with a help of Falion. If you won't do that, the questline won't progress.
You can start it as a vampire. In fact, the only point it basically kicks you out of the Dawnguard quest will be during the part where Isran checks for vampires with the sun-floor; He'll comment that you've not attacked him up to this point, meaning you must have recently turned, and tells you to go get cured before you can be part of his club again.
@@Umbra_Ursus Yeah, since then I found it out the hard way. Could find a way around it, tho it would have been nice to complete the quest as an "undercover" vampire
@@Umbra_Ursus Later, being a vampire you can't do quests for Dawnguard and can't trade/train with Dawnguard members (I'm only not sure if all won't talk or some of them) - they will comment that you are sick.
My question is can I be cured of vampirism after becoming one at the castle while leading Serena home, and still stay in dawngaurd?
If I understand your question correctly...
Yes, you can get infected with vampirism and be cured. Speak to an innkeeper to trigger the quest "Rising at Dawn"
Basically, you bring a filled soul gem to the priest/mage in Morthal (Falion) and there is a ritual to remove vampirism. The Dawnguard will accept you back once you have been cured.
Or, you can refuse the initial gift. You get a "one free pass" at the vampire castle since you brough Serana home.
Be mindful that there is a limit on the number of times you can become a Vampire Lord (I think it is twice), so just be mindful of that if you are switch between human and vampire.
Yes
Actually no, I became a vampire at the castle and later got rid of it. I went to dawngaurd and they’re all against me.
@@onkelhehe5286don't say that as if you know its 100% correct. Even if you cure yourself after letting Harkon turn you into a vampire the dawnguard will still be hostile towards you. The only way to become a vampire after doing the dawnguard stuff is to let serena turn you during the soul cairn quest or after you finish the whole questline. either way after doing so they won't be good to speak wiht you