The Dawnguard: Hunts vampires: Invests in a fort for an HQ The Vigilants of Stendar: Hunts all kinds of dangerous beings: Designates a glorified farmhouse as an HQ
My only problem with it when I was young is that its relatively forgettable. Some of the members of the dawguard aren't very flushed out, and it feels like you don't spend enough time with the dawguard given how much time you spend alone with Serena between the forgotten vale and the soul carin.
I did dawnguards all the time...then did the vampire side once and felt guilty killing all the members of dawnguard. Especially one girl can't remember who ran away and was saying please don't kill me. I was like nooooo 😭
I know it's relatively minor, but in ESO, there's an ability in the Fighters Guild skill tree called Silver Bolts, and it's description reads, "Fires an augmented DAWNGUARD Vampire Hunter's crossbow bolt".
Just stumbled across this video today... a year too late but I was going to mention the same thing... I think its important to note that it is a FIGHTER'S GUILD ability that references the Dawnguard. We know that mercenaries made up the very first members of the Dawnguard and the Fighter's Guild is made up of mercenaries. This ability has also been in the game way before even Imperial City launched (not sure if it is a vanilla game ability although I know the skill was reworked and renamed at another point)
I can see both versions of the Dawnguard's history being true. Maybe only part of the old Dawnguard became vampires, the other half abhorred vampires and hunted them down. In the end, there weren't enough of them left to keep the group going.
I was about to bring up the same thing... Being made up of merc's it wouldn't be a shock if the order fictionalized some seeking the power of the vampire others going to slay all undead route
@@luciandragos8556 Or maybe some of them were secretly turned and the rest had to put down their brothers. In the end the vampires are all but wiped out but so are the Dawnguard?
Thoughts on why the Dawnguard faction (and the Fort) are never mentioned in ESO: it's possible the Jarl of Riften was so embarrassed about his son becoming a vampire that all mention of the place was stricken from the records. Think about it. The Fort is situated in a box canyon that is hidden in the mountains east of Riften, and you can only get to it by going through a cave/tunnel hidden off the main road. It's possible that the only reason Isran ever knew about it was because an ancestor of his was an original member. Even Sorine and Gunmar joke about his "secret hideaway." Perhaps the members of the original Dawnguard dissolved due to infighting, lending credence to Sorine's side of the story about some of them becoming vampires. If the son of the Jarl infected some of the original guard, and the others fought against them, it's likely few survived the ordeal, thus ensuring few people outside of Riften ever knew the faction or the Fort even existed. News in a medieval setting tends not to travel very quickly, despite the prodigious prowess of the couriers. Anyway, those are my thoughts. But then, I'm a writer. It's how I would have explained it, if I worked for Bethesda.
The news part is 🧢 I watched a friend of mine die in falkreath from a dragon attack not 5 minutes later the courier came to tell me the bad news as I was looting his corpse
Yeah it’s the issue the witchers we’re starting to face too. And if people in fantasy old times are as dumb as people in real modern times, I believe it.
I know it’s been three months but I know the pain never leaves it only dulls. I’m truly sorry for your loss friend. You will get through it and you will be alright, trust me.
I'm sure my werewolf brothers would disagree Harkon. You'll rue the day you tried to get me to ditch being a werewolf. I didn't kill all those innocent people for nothing.
They also have very smilar hairstyles, and there is even one pic of Selene (I think it was on a DVD menu) where her outfit has the same sort of "window" that Serana's outfit has. Another things, is that the vampire lord forms also bears a remarking resemblance to the form Markus could take in the 2nd Underworld movie. Sure, the vampires in the Van Helsing movie could also take on a similar form, but the vampire lord has more in common with Markus's form. If you ask me, there are too many coincidences here.
There are a bunch of mods on the nexus that implement all sorts of dawnguard armour... some of which are absolutely awesome and close to the original style but better!
@@yodelingshrimp8316 plus, the ebony dawnguard amour which looks really good. There was another mod which made different varients on sleeves for robes, guard armour, dawnguard armour and vampire robes (prob other things too)
@@yodelingshrimp8316 yeah there are many many many armour mods... and a good chunk of them are for factions in the game... if you're interested you should check it out ;) nexus mods is your place to look for it
There is one, and only one, reference to the Dawnguard in ESO. When the group was allegedly founded they used silver bolts, a projectile that is only referenced in Skyrim and ESO but only present in the latter.
I came here to say this, in the fighter's guild skill tree in ESO the skill Silver bolts says "Fire a Dawnguard Vampire Hunter's crossbow bolt to strike an enemy"
@@TopKekMadLad there's actually a reference to the dawn dawnguard in eso with the silver bolts ability in the fighter's guild skill line. It says you fire silver bolts from a dawnguard crossbow. I think it implies that either it's still a very small faction that's yet to get big or has already dissolved at this point.
I do know that the signature weapon of the dawnguard , the crossbow, was absorbed into the fighters guild arsenal. My fighter character in ESO uses the dawnguard crossbow pretty regularly as it's an ability.
There is, actually ONE reference to the Dawnguard in ESO, and that is in the fighter's guild skills, the Silver Bolts skill and morphs "Fire a Dawnguard Vampire Hunter's crossbow bolt"
@@toni1693 agreed. Some of the most fun I've had was a female stealth assassin and thief that used illusion that eventually joined the vampires. Plus with some good mods being a vampire becomes way cooler. Like being able to increase your vampire abilities BY feeding instead of by not feeding (cause it's so much fun to be a vampire and not bite people right?) And being able to kill people in their sleep with draining. Just so fun all around lol.
You get pretty srong lvling it up and faster than werewolf, it is also for the trophy for mastering it.. only downside is the annoying noise when in sunlight
Vampire lords are awesome. I just wish you could use vampire lord powers outside of that form. I wanna use telekinesis to force choke fools without transforming.
@@tahabashir3779 I just saw a dragon fly over Whiterun as I was strolling down the road near the Lorieus Farm. It burned my sweetroll. Thank you very much, Mr. Dragonborn. -_-
I actually belive that the reason why ESO doesn't have any references to the Dawnguard is because ESO takes place before the Dawnguard was formed. Note: I don't know exactly in what point in 2E the Dawnguard was first formed, if there even is an known year/decade/century in wich they were formed
@@HzizsVynryn yeah, but there really isn't that many dawnguard books out there. Apart from the ones the came with the expansion there really isn't any other books.
"Heard they're reforming the dawngaurd, old vampire hunters fort or something. Might consider joining up myself" *joins Harkon instead because they cooler*
@@whiterunguard5633 bruh trolls could eat me bc they decided to be wild again, death hounds are better man they trained to kill and they look good doin it, and oh yes VAMPIRE LORD, isran just pats you on the back says good job and pays you $100 to f*¢k off, harkon gives me powers and then I get to kill him and take his place bro
Serana doesn't need such petty tricks to win people over! She's a lovely goddess, perfect in every possible- oh, crap... I may have been affected after all.
Serana's charming enough not to need it, unless it reaches through the screen too. Hard not to take her with me, but I prefer a bit more stealth than serana likes.
Actually, Now that I'm taking the full sentence into context, Serana was once a human, therefore she still must have some humanity left, otherwise she wouldn't be so nice to you.
@@LuisMartinez-gu5ii Do not exclusively equate humanity to compassion or social actions. Humanity is what humans do which just so happens to include social thinking and compassion at times.
@@shadowstrider5033 The word 'humanity' in this context comes with the connotations of compassion and benign social activities. Humanity does not simply mean the actions that human beings perform, it means actions that are exclusive to humans, such as compassion.
Dawnguard is THE best written questline of the entire game, specially on Dawnguard side. The ideology conflict, the emotions involved, even the entire family vs true companions that splits serana apart while she accompanies and guides you through her family's secrets. It all peaks when she willingly raises a blade against her father, by your side. She realizes that her father and family died when Harkon laid his eyes upon the prophecy, that she had become a mean to an end in his sight. It is truly a miniature masterpiece within the Skyrim.
I want to be prominent in saying your videos are very well done in terms of cinematography and general delivery your content, this echoes for every other video too, keep it up!
After killing harkon and taking over as the vampire lord, i got a random encounter around the western watchtower where i got attacked by dawnguard that had a letter stating there was a treasure cache somewhere nearby
Not sure if it's new since this video, but I recently got into ESO, and they do mention the Dawnguard very briefly with the flavour text for the crossbow skill from the fighter's guild.
Damn, for the first one I always wanted a mod that added vigilants to fort dawnguard, I had no idea that it was cut content, I wish it stayed in the game.
Actually, the Dawnguard are mentioned in both ESO and in Blades. In ESO the Fighters Guild skill Silver Bolts is specifically described as being a "Dawnguard Vampire Hunter's crossbow". I'm also almost positive I heard an NPC in the ESO Greymoor expansion talking about them; one of those things where a random NPC makes some comment related to quests you've completed when you're walking by. Of course, since it's a random bit of dialogue and I was rushing by at the time, I can't be totally sure of what they said, I just thought I heard someone say something along the lines of "too bad the Dawnguard isn't around".
You missed that in ESO the Fighters guild skill lines first unlockable ability is a Dawnguard Crossbow. So by the time of ESO the Dawnguard did their thing already and disbanded. They also used the Ravenwatch in place of the Dawnguard in the Greymoor and Markarth DLCs a MUCH better option for us vampire lovers.
Thank you, Nate. I too am salty the Dawnguard weren't involved in the Greymoor expansion. I want to be hopeful something will come up, but that's all I can be, sadly.
I love coming back to EpicNates videos whenever I restart from a very long break away from Skyrim. All these years this game is still my top (elder scroll) 5 games
Hey Nate! I have been watching your channel for at least a year and a half now and have never come across a video that I didn’t appreciate, love your vids! - Me Lol
Hey Nate, I doubt you'll see this since it's been two years but I've been watching your videos for a long time now and I love them. Just wondering what graphics mods you use to give it that clean, almost cartoony look? I still haven't quite figured it out 😆 Thanks
I love all the skyrim videos you do they are so informative and interesting i watch each one about 3 times each just to know and remember everything. Me and my wife love the games and when i give information i hear in the videos she is always like "how do you know all this!" And im like "i have a great teacher" haha love the videos keep them comin!!! Thanks nate!
If you pay attention, you’ll find a Dawnguard flag/pennon hanging in Volkihar Keep. Also, the Vampire Noble armor look similar to Dawnguard armor. I think that perhaps the original Dawnguard are linked to Harkon in some way.
I wish there was on option to respond to, the commander's question with: "Because, if you so much as harm one hair on her head, I will destroy the DawnGuard starting with you."
And being the best NPC in the game, by default of being added by a DLC where the devs had more experience and more time to work on her, isn't really saying much when you think about it. Heck, she isn't even tolerable without mods. : P
There actually is a refferance to the Dawnguard in ESO: the Silver Bolts Skill in the Fighters Guild Skill Line, its description says: 'Fire a Dawnguard Vampire Hunter's crossbow bolt to strike an enemy, dealing X Physical Damage.'
I thought ESO was making an entire quest line for the Dawnguard, but you are just a recruit at a small recon camp. You basically never see Fort Dawnguard. I don't think they want to spend time studying the skyrim fort and then have to rebuild it in the ESO engine
Are you sure the Dawnguards were suddenly formed to fight against Harkon and his people? I'm pretty sure the Dawnguards started as mercenaries who were hired as jailors by the Jarl of Riften (not current Jarl but a Jarl from long ago) to keep imprisoned the son of the Jarl who became a vampire.
There's a skill in the Fighter's Guild skill tree in ESO called Silver Bolts which has your character fire a crossbow at a target and within the skill description it says that this is a Dawnguard Crossbow so that means the Dawnguard were referenced in ESO too!
Ever since I first heard about the alternate history of the dawnguard I've always thought that they didn't do it for selfish reasons, at least not at first, I have a feeling that they turned themselves because they thought it would make hunting vampires that much easier (see the whole 'fighting fire with fire' concept) which makes sense in theory but they would have quickly been corrupted by not only the need to feed but also the very power that they sought to aid them
My guess is the Dawnguard disbanded before the events of eso. Those members joined the fighter's guild hence why the crossbow ability is in the fighter's guild tree.
Dayum Ive never been this early! I really love these lore videos! Good thing I started a new playtrhought this week. The quarantine has hit a new cycle!
Unrelated to Dawnguard, but also cool. If you wear a piece of thieves guild armor, while talking to the blacksmith in Solsthiem, he tells you he used to be a guild brother, with his birth brother Delvin. Doing a quest for him, gets you a key to his house, where you find a letter to his daughter Sapphire
Hi there, thanks for the video. I might be a little late, however I might have something to add to all of these. In ESO the Fighter's Guild skill line has a skill called "Silver Bolts". The skill descrition reads as follows: "Fire a Dawnguard Vampire Hunter's crossbow bolt to strike the enemy...". This just might suggest, that Dawnguard has indeed existed at the time of ESO and it is somehow connected to the Fighter's Guild, it just might has been a subdivision of the Fighter's Guild focused on vampires or something, though not appearing in Greymoor is still strange. I don't know if ESO skill descriptions can be trusted as canon thing or used in this kind of investigations, but this is an interesting detail.
@@spasdelev1284 ...Lydia can still be a Follower, even when Married. All it does, is give her a new set of lines. Infact, Spouse Characters don't really change their roles THAT much when they're married to you. Companions are still companions, and NPCs are still NPCs. The difference is their dialogue and options afterwards. It's a shame, really, As I like Shahvee. Wish she was a Companion post-marriage, especially with the implication she was a Rogue Type prior to Skyrim. (She gives the Dragonborn some extra levels in Lockpicking, One-Handed and Light Armor after her mini-quest to retrieve her amulet.)
Florentius is a member you forgot to mention. He (or Arkay) says they weren't so much a noble bunch as the story tells us, rather they were looting, stealing, raiding etc. And had all that stolen loot stashed in a cave in the fortress.
I haven't started this questline yet. Can't wait. I was waiting till I finished the main questline a second time, due to bug that messed up the dragonborn questline. I'm gonna skewer those vampires
Standar Survivor: "I will go to the cave and avenge my brothers and sisters!" Isran: "No! You're NOT experienced!" *turns to player who literally just entered DG castle*: "You there, you should go."
Its so nice to escape the chaos happening these days to this fictional world to just learn interesting facts about the Dawnguard. Its refreshing that at least some things aren't completely changing because of current events. Thank you Nate, keep up the good work.
Skyrim: So what do you do exactly?
Dawnguard: Hunt vampires.
Skyrim: But vampires don’t exist.
Dawnguard: You’re welcome.
That's when you know you're really good at your job.
Why thank you
Trolls don't exist!
Then how do you explain all the dead unicorns?
This rock stops tiger attacks. There's no tigers around here so clearly it works.
A girl ask me this and I gave her this exact reply but she blocked me now :(
The Dawnguard: Hunts vampires: Invests in a fort for an HQ
The Vigilants of Stendar: Hunts all kinds of dangerous beings: Designates a glorified farmhouse as an HQ
Remember they use monk/wizard clothes instead of good protection as dawnguard do.
Guess it's about being subtle for them.
More like a village inn
They tried calling it "The Tavern of Vigilants", but it just lacked gravitas.
Lol, I Conjured Dremora lord in front of them but they didn't got aggro
Heard they're reforming the Volkahair clan, old vampire lords or something, in that old castle near Northwatch Keep. Might consider joining up myself!
@@patrick_btmn Quick Question on behalf of the spiffng brit, can you let our Lord Reanu Keeves out of skyrim already?
Todd Howard now are you gonna sell Skyrim this time
Todd Howard. I thought I told you to never return here.
There driving you nuts.
lol
@@patrick_btmn Todd Howard is a vampire confirmed
“Don’t like those eyes you’ve got. They’ve got a bad hunger to them”.
''I must learn ALL the details of Tamriel. Beginning with Skyrim''
Todd Howard can you sell me Skyrim remastered remastered edition
lunasollie what the hell is wrong with you
@@commandercody7693 - Report it, I did.
@@commandercody7693 Yo what did he say?
Still, after all these years, the Heavy Dawnguard armor looks SPICY as hell.
Yeah love it that the helmets dont have holes in the eyes
Ive always loved the closed helmet look
maybe because it looks like real armor for once?
@@thomasjenkins7506 Exactly. As good of a game Skyrim is, the Armor is horrible in terms of looks.
@@metetural9140 Who needs to see when you look that badass?
Harkon garvey: another vampire needs your help here I'll mark it on your map.
Shit
*Sigh* Ok, I´ll bite......
I spit out my tea laughing
I do not understand the hate for Preston at all...
I wonder if people troll Preston garvey's voice actor in real life. Sending him messages saying that another settlement needs his help
Dawnguard, while not perfect, is an extremely underrated DLC. It's ripe with lore and interesting points for both sides of the factions.
Yess it is my favourite quest line and has the best characters like serana isran Harken duniver snow elf’s and more
And crossbow
My only problem with it when I was young is that its relatively forgettable. Some of the members of the dawguard aren't very flushed out, and it feels like you don't spend enough time with the dawguard given how much time you spend alone with Serena between the forgotten vale and the soul carin.
Isran: "Avoid sleep if you can, sleep is for the week."
*Gets to bed on the 2nd floor*
Weak
@@gotbeef6808 Thank you sir
"For the week"? I didn't know a mortal could sleep that long, Isran. That's quite remarkable.
@@theimmortalmadness8010 damn it stop it.
@@zixiaozhang3491 What did I do? I was talking to Isran. :)
Just completed this questline for the first time not siding with the Vampires, was actually really fun
i actually prefer siding with the dawnguard.
I thought siding with the vampires would be more fun but turns out I was wrong
I did dawnguards all the time...then did the vampire side once and felt guilty killing all the members of dawnguard. Especially one girl can't remember who ran away and was saying please don't kill me. I was like nooooo 😭
Agreed
Best DLC hands down in my opinion, cool weapons and awesome armor and a fantastic story line plus one of the greatest followers
I know it's relatively minor, but in ESO, there's an ability in the Fighters Guild skill tree called Silver Bolts, and it's description reads, "Fires an augmented DAWNGUARD Vampire Hunter's crossbow bolt".
Just stumbled across this video today... a year too late but I was going to mention the same thing... I think its important to note that it is a FIGHTER'S GUILD ability that references the Dawnguard. We know that mercenaries made up the very first members of the Dawnguard and the Fighter's Guild is made up of mercenaries. This ability has also been in the game way before even Imperial City launched (not sure if it is a vanilla game ability although I know the skill was reworked and renamed at another point)
@@rockinheartless1 it's vanilla yeah
I can see both versions of the Dawnguard's history being true. Maybe only part of the old Dawnguard became vampires, the other half abhorred vampires and hunted them down. In the end, there weren't enough of them left to keep the group going.
I was about to bring up the same thing... Being made up of merc's it wouldn't be a shock if the order fictionalized some seeking the power of the vampire others going to slay all undead route
@@luciandragos8556 Or maybe some of them were secretly turned and the rest had to put down their brothers. In the end the vampires are all but wiped out but so are the Dawnguard?
Ooooh. I like that theory.
Which just makes it a repeat of the Companions/Silver Hand theory. One faction in the group seduced by power, the other seeking to wipe them out.
Thoughts on why the Dawnguard faction (and the Fort) are never mentioned in ESO: it's possible the Jarl of Riften was so embarrassed about his son becoming a vampire that all mention of the place was stricken from the records. Think about it. The Fort is situated in a box canyon that is hidden in the mountains east of Riften, and you can only get to it by going through a cave/tunnel hidden off the main road. It's possible that the only reason Isran ever knew about it was because an ancestor of his was an original member. Even Sorine and Gunmar joke about his "secret hideaway." Perhaps the members of the original Dawnguard dissolved due to infighting, lending credence to Sorine's side of the story about some of them becoming vampires. If the son of the Jarl infected some of the original guard, and the others fought against them, it's likely few survived the ordeal, thus ensuring few people outside of Riften ever knew the faction or the Fort even existed. News in a medieval setting tends not to travel very quickly, despite the prodigious prowess of the couriers. Anyway, those are my thoughts. But then, I'm a writer. It's how I would have explained it, if I worked for Bethesda.
The news part is 🧢 I watched a friend of mine die in falkreath from a dragon attack not 5 minutes later the courier came to tell me the bad news as I was looting his corpse
You know you're real good at your job when everybody starts doubting they need you because you did your job too well
The curse of IT. Everything works what are we paying you for? / Nothing works what are we paying you for?
RIP Grey Wardens
A good reason not to be an overachiever
@@smith22041 underrated comment
Yeah it’s the issue the witchers we’re starting to face too. And if people in fantasy old times are as dumb as people in real modern times, I believe it.
I just lost my father figure two days ago. Your videos have helped me take my mind off of things for a few minutes. Thank you.
Hang in there, mate. Take things at your own pace.
So sorry to hear that.. hang in there, buddy.
I know I'm late, but you have my condolences, friend. May he rest forever in peace.
I know it’s been three months but I know the pain never leaves it only dulls. I’m truly sorry for your loss friend. You will get through it and you will be alright, trust me.
Sorry to hear this
Last time i was this early Miraak was getting an ass beating from Alduin
Shiiiiiiiiit i must have missed something.
Valok*
Harkon: "Thank you for the information Nate. This will make destroying the Dawnguard much easier."
Lol!
Haha!
Harkon:You cant defeat me
2004 Grievous:I know I cant but he can
2003 Clone Wars Grievous
I'm sure my werewolf brothers would disagree Harkon. You'll rue the day you tried to get me to ditch being a werewolf. I didn't kill all those innocent people for nothing.
*Equips Dawnbreaker* are u sure about that?
I think they got rid of the vigilants because they would have killed Serana regardless of her affiliation
Kostadin Hadjidinev why not? The Vigilants are very very radical
It makes perfect sense lore wise lol
@@spasdelev1284 lol What? That literally makes perfect sense lore wise
Vigilants were destroyed before Serana was even known about
WinterSplinterM.II did you hear what he said in the video? 😂 he literally said originally they weren’t supposed to be completely destroyed
could serana be a reference to selene? selene also hates what she's become, and has killed several vampire elders.
They also have very smilar hairstyles, and there is even one pic of Selene (I think it was on a DVD menu) where her outfit has the same sort of "window" that Serana's outfit has.
Another things, is that the vampire lord forms also bears a remarking resemblance to the form Markus could take in the 2nd Underworld movie. Sure, the vampires in the Van Helsing movie could also take on a similar form, but the vampire lord has more in common with Markus's form.
If you ask me, there are too many coincidences here.
@@TheHornedKing and the vampires in underworld are very aristocratic, like the volkihars. plus the hatred of lycans.
@Syauqil Ula kate beckinsale + black leather = 'nuff said.
What movie?
@@chompyhunter123 Underworld. Action movies about a war between vampires and werewolves. There are 5 of them.
Next videos title: “5 things they never told you about Nazeem.”
Then “5 things you didn’t know about the sweet rolls”
He doesn’t actually go to the cloud district
Goddammit Brynjolf
I'd have you know, there's no pussieeeee.
Entry one. If you talk or, more accurately, walk by his wife, she sometimes admits she suspects he is stuffing himself on balgruufs ass.
Serana is probably one of my favorite characters. It was funny how she called out Harkon’s BBEG monologue
i love the danwgurad armor. wish there was some different version of it
There are a bunch of mods on the nexus that implement all sorts of dawnguard armour... some of which are absolutely awesome and close to the original style but better!
@@Mr3ppozz wait for real?
@@yodelingshrimp8316 there is a better quality version on nexus. It looks incredible.
@@yodelingshrimp8316 plus, the ebony dawnguard amour which looks really good. There was another mod which made different varients on sleeves for robes, guard armour, dawnguard armour and vampire robes (prob other things too)
@@yodelingshrimp8316 yeah there are many many many armour mods... and a good chunk of them are for factions in the game... if you're interested you should check it out ;) nexus mods is your place to look for it
There is one, and only one, reference to the Dawnguard in ESO. When the group was allegedly founded they used silver bolts, a projectile that is only referenced in Skyrim and ESO but only present in the latter.
The crossbow pack adds silver crossbows and bolts to Skyrim
I came here to say this, in the fighter's guild skill tree in ESO the skill Silver bolts says "Fire a Dawnguard Vampire Hunter's crossbow bolt to strike an enemy"
True
I think In saints and seducers you can make/buy some
@@Scotty-tl3jjOf course, Saints and Seducers add cool gear, but have a lackluster questline
Heres an idea, maybe the events in ESO lead up to the Dawngaurd becoming a faction in skyrim.
Thats what i thought. Eras last for so, so, so long. So the dawnguard wouldn't have formed as soon as the 2nd era began..
@@TopKekMadLad there's actually a reference to the dawn dawnguard in eso with the silver bolts ability in the fighter's guild skill line. It says you fire silver bolts from a dawnguard crossbow. I think it implies that either it's still a very small faction that's yet to get big or has already dissolved at this point.
I do know that the signature weapon of the dawnguard , the crossbow, was absorbed into the fighters guild arsenal. My fighter character in ESO uses the dawnguard crossbow pretty regularly as it's an ability.
Arielle Jurard is also the name of a random Battlemage in Oblivion. Jurard probably isn't that uncommon a Breton name.
Yeah Nate just goes "OH LOOK TAHT GUYS NAMES SMITH HE MUST BE RELATED TO THAT ORC SMITH"
End of the video
@TheFreshest Slice I'm pretty sure they're related, I might be wrong but I've played and beat both several time and I see similarities
He's notorious for having confirmation bias.
The only thing more disappointing than the lack of references to the Dawnguard outside of Skyrim...is Serana not being a viable marriage candidate. :/
Mods
@@JG-lf5vm yes
There are mods that implement it seamlessly after you cure her of her vampirism.
You would feel like a sicko if you knew her backstory...
@@ako6760 why?
There is, actually ONE reference to the Dawnguard in ESO, and that is in the fighter's guild skills, the Silver Bolts skill and morphs "Fire a Dawnguard Vampire Hunter's crossbow bolt"
"Rip and Tear...until it is done"
* "doom's gate" plays in background as I load my explosive dwemer crossbow *
Maybe the player character in Elder Scrolls Online will help form the Dawnguard.The story finishes in November.
That sounds cool!!
8 years later Skyrim
Nate still finding tiny little iddy bitty details within TES Skyrim i salute you mad lad
As long as I've been playing Skyrim, I've never played as a vampire...may have to try it next time just for the experience.
Illusion assasin vampire is fun build.
@@toni1693 agreed. Some of the most fun I've had was a female stealth assassin and thief that used illusion that eventually joined the vampires. Plus with some good mods being a vampire becomes way cooler. Like being able to increase your vampire abilities BY feeding instead of by not feeding (cause it's so much fun to be a vampire and not bite people right?) And being able to kill people in their sleep with draining. Just so fun all around lol.
You get pretty srong lvling it up and faster than werewolf, it is also for the trophy for mastering it.. only downside is the annoying noise when in sunlight
@@BallBatteryReligion I had the exact same build, female and everything, stealth illusion is super fun, I used a dagger though
Vampire lords are awesome. I just wish you could use vampire lord powers outside of that form. I wanna use telekinesis to force choke fools without transforming.
I really love how there's so many characters with last names that relate to important characters in other ElderScrolls games.
Nate: "Let's zoom in on her"
Also Nate: *Zooms at her chest*
Me: Nice
I used to hunt vampires in the United States. Haven't seen a vampire in a while? You're welcome.
Thank you for your service :)
No wonder why I never seen tom crusie and brad pitt in movies anymore
well I'm the Dragonborn, and my destiny is to hunt down the Dragons.
seen a Dragon lately? you're welcome.
@@tahabashir3779 I just saw a dragon fly over Whiterun as I was strolling down the road near the Lorieus Farm. It burned my sweetroll. Thank you very much, Mr. Dragonborn. -_-
@@theimmortalmadness8010 don't worry Sheo, I'll turn that Dragon into a sweetroll with the...
*WABBAJACK!*
didn't expect that, did you?
"No other Elder Scrolls game or app has references to the Dawnguard"
I actually belive that the reason why ESO doesn't have any references to the Dawnguard is because ESO takes place before the Dawnguard was formed.
Note: I don't know exactly in what point in 2E the Dawnguard was first formed, if there even is an known year/decade/century in wich they were formed
A minicounter to that would be that ESO still has books from all over different times, so a lack of any Dawnguard is still a bit interesting.
@@HzizsVynryn yeah, but there really isn't that many dawnguard books out there. Apart from the ones the came with the expansion there really isn't any other books.
You can get a fighters guild abillity that says something about having a crossbow from the dawnguard.
Awesome! The Dawnguard quest line is my favorite in the entire game, and I love the faction!
Next “5 things you didn’t know about the sweet rolls”
If that actually becomes a video, I will piss myself laughing. All they are are just iced biscuits.
Id watch the hell out of that
Fact 1: Someone stole my sweet roll. All other facts about this little baked good are irrelevant.
You made me hungry... You don't want to make me hungry...
Unless if you're cooking the meal. Then you're okay in my book. :)
#1: No sweet rolls have ever actually been stolen
Last time I was this early, Serena wasn’t imprisoned yet.
She was never "imprisoned" I think she just took a long nap.
@@LuisMartinez-gu5ii r/wooosh
"Heard they're reforming the dawngaurd, old vampire hunters fort or something. Might consider joining up myself"
*joins Harkon instead because they cooler*
The Stranger The Dawnguard has huskies and armored trolls though.
That's cool! 😁 the death hounds are cooler and i don't trust trolls
@@whiterunguard5633 bruh trolls could eat me bc they decided to be wild again, death hounds are better man they trained to kill and they look good doin it, and oh yes VAMPIRE LORD, isran just pats you on the back says good job and pays you $100 to f*¢k off, harkon gives me powers and then I get to kill him and take his place bro
@@whiterunguard5633 they armored trolls are pathetically weak
Werewolves are better
Last time I was this early, Cyrodiil was not the seat of an empire
You must be from the Merethic Era then.
@@LuisMartinez-gu5ii Good old times when the census didn't count farming tools as people
Every Skyrim NPC : "Your skins as pale as the snow. You scared of the sun or something?"
Me : Indeed.
Me a redguard asking wtf they're talking about
I wonder if the secret regarding serena growing on the dawnguard, was also hinting at her passively using vampires seduction on the guild
Nah they trained against -simping- vampire seduction
if anyone is a simp in skyrim, it's isran.
Serana doesn't need such petty tricks to win people over! She's a lovely goddess, perfect in every possible- oh, crap... I may have been affected after all.
Serana's charming enough not to need it, unless it reaches through the screen too.
Hard not to take her with me, but I prefer a bit more stealth than serana likes.
@@thomasjenkins7506 isran x serana go brrrrrrrr
Love the parts with cut content. Thank you for your work!
"Or even recognise her humanity."
Possibly because she's not a human? She's a vampire I thought this was obvious, Nate...
I agree with you.
Yeah, Nate milks Skyrim to the max, yet he somehow is still incompetent with the game.
Actually, Now that I'm taking the full sentence into context, Serana was once a human, therefore she still must have some humanity left, otherwise she wouldn't be so nice to you.
@@LuisMartinez-gu5ii Do not exclusively equate humanity to compassion or social actions. Humanity is what humans do which just so happens to include social thinking and compassion at times.
@@shadowstrider5033 The word 'humanity' in this context comes with the connotations of compassion and benign social activities. Humanity does not simply mean the actions that human beings perform, it means actions that are exclusive to humans, such as compassion.
So funny you posted this because I just finished the Dawnguard quest tonight. This is my first time playing Skyrim ☺️
Dawnguard is THE best written questline of the entire game, specially on Dawnguard side.
The ideology conflict, the emotions involved, even the entire family vs true companions that splits serana apart while she accompanies and guides you through her family's secrets.
It all peaks when she willingly raises a blade against her father, by your side. She realizes that her father and family died when Harkon laid his eyes upon the prophecy, that she had become a mean to an end in his sight.
It is truly a miniature masterpiece within the Skyrim.
@Jamie Last At least it ain't dragonborn, with the cheesy villain.
I'd be the member of Dawnguard that would say, "You didn't tell me the female Vampires would be this hot."
My husband: what’re you watching? *HEY GUYS ITS NATE HERE* husband: nvm
that's sad
I want to be prominent in saying your videos are very well done in terms of cinematography and general delivery your content, this echoes for every other video too, keep it up!
There is a skill from Fighter Guild tree call "Silver Bolt" that work well against daedra and undead for obvious reason: it was made by Dawnguard
Thank you for this video! I always love when you upload new videos.
The Dawnguard armour is honestly my favorite armour. Like they just looks so cool
hey nate i just came across your channel for the first time, i never thought anyone still played
After killing harkon and taking over as the vampire lord, i got a random encounter around the western watchtower where i got attacked by dawnguard that had a letter stating there was a treasure cache somewhere nearby
Not sure if it's new since this video, but I recently got into ESO, and they do mention the Dawnguard very briefly with the flavour text for the crossbow skill from the fighter's guild.
when ur wearing headphones and u can hear nates tongue touching the inside of his mouth when he speaks
God, why did you point it out lol
When having a nice mic backfires lol
I only just noticed after your comment. Damn it
"lets zoom in on her"
literally zooms in on her lmao
Damn, for the first one I always wanted a mod that added vigilants to fort dawnguard, I had no idea that it was cut content, I wish it stayed in the game.
Actually, the Dawnguard are mentioned in both ESO and in Blades. In ESO the Fighters Guild skill Silver Bolts is specifically described as being a "Dawnguard Vampire Hunter's crossbow".
I'm also almost positive I heard an NPC in the ESO Greymoor expansion talking about them; one of those things where a random NPC makes some comment related to quests you've completed when you're walking by. Of course, since it's a random bit of dialogue and I was rushing by at the time, I can't be totally sure of what they said, I just thought I heard someone say something along the lines of "too bad the Dawnguard isn't around".
“since many people have fallen in love with her.”
Ah come ok man don’t call me out like that 🥺👉👈
You missed that in ESO the Fighters guild skill lines first unlockable ability is a Dawnguard Crossbow. So by the time of ESO the Dawnguard did their thing already and disbanded.
They also used the Ravenwatch in place of the Dawnguard in the Greymoor and Markarth DLCs a MUCH better option for us vampire lovers.
Thank you, Nate. I too am salty the Dawnguard weren't involved in the Greymoor expansion. I want to be hopeful something will come up, but that's all I can be, sadly.
I love coming back to EpicNates videos whenever I restart from a very long break away from Skyrim. All these years this game is still my top (elder scroll) 5 games
Hey Nate! I have been watching your channel for at least a year and a half now and have never come across a video that I didn’t appreciate, love your vids!
- Me
Lol
Hey Nate, I doubt you'll see this since it's been two years but I've been watching your videos for a long time now and I love them. Just wondering what graphics mods you use to give it that clean, almost cartoony look? I still haven't quite figured it out 😆
Thanks
1. They don’t get to the cloud district very often
Hello Nazeem
Get out of here Nazeemo
Hey Nazeem, I thought I just killed you?!
Nazeem I already killed you in Whiterun
You should thank me because I helped you to reach the Cloud District
I love all the skyrim videos you do they are so informative and interesting i watch each one about 3 times each just to know and remember everything. Me and my wife love the games and when i give information i hear in the videos she is always like "how do you know all this!" And im like "i have a great teacher" haha love the videos keep them comin!!! Thanks nate!
If you pay attention, you’ll find a Dawnguard flag/pennon hanging in Volkihar Keep. Also, the Vampire Noble armor look similar to Dawnguard armor. I think that perhaps the original Dawnguard are linked to Harkon in some way.
I wish there was on option to respond to, the commander's question with: "Because, if you so much as harm one hair on her head, I will destroy the DawnGuard starting with you."
I think it's obvious why the Elder Scrolls community likes Serana so much LOL. She's literally the best NPC in the game.
And she's the best because of -tits- her personality.
And because shes voiced by Laura Bailey
**violins playing**🎼🎻Laura Bailey
I personally hate her and find her very anoying.
And being the best NPC in the game, by default of being added by a DLC where the devs had more experience and more time to work on her, isn't really saying much when you think about it.
Heck, she isn't even tolerable without mods. : P
There actually is a refferance to the Dawnguard in ESO: the Silver Bolts Skill in the Fighters Guild Skill Line, its description says: 'Fire a Dawnguard Vampire Hunter's crossbow bolt to strike an enemy, dealing X Physical Damage.'
We’re almost at 1 mil, keep it up!
I thought ESO was making an entire quest line for the Dawnguard, but you are just a recruit at a small recon camp. You basically never see Fort Dawnguard. I don't think they want to spend time studying the skyrim fort and then have to rebuild it in the ESO engine
Are you sure the Dawnguards were suddenly formed to fight against Harkon and his people?
I'm pretty sure the Dawnguards started as mercenaries who were hired as jailors by the Jarl of Riften (not current Jarl but a Jarl from long ago) to keep imprisoned the son of the Jarl who became a vampire.
There's a skill in the Fighter's Guild skill tree in ESO called Silver Bolts which has your character fire a crossbow at a target and within the skill description it says that this is a Dawnguard Crossbow so that means the Dawnguard were referenced in ESO too!
Ever since I first heard about the alternate history of the dawnguard I've always thought that they didn't do it for selfish reasons, at least not at first, I have a feeling that they turned themselves because they thought it would make hunting vampires that much easier (see the whole 'fighting fire with fire' concept) which makes sense in theory but they would have quickly been corrupted by not only the need to feed but also the very power that they sought to aid them
Boy am I glad to see Isran survives until the end of the questline unlike others guild/faction leaders in Skyrim :'D
My guess is the Dawnguard disbanded before the events of eso. Those members joined the fighter's guild hence why the crossbow ability is in the fighter's guild tree.
Dayum Ive never been this early! I really love these lore videos! Good thing I started a new playtrhought this week. The quarantine has hit a new cycle!
12:22
*Drinks through helmet*
“Yeah, this is big brain time.”
What did you think them little holes were for?
@@3DTyrant obviously not for breathing of course who needs to breathe
Nate: "Alas"
Viewer: "You keep using that word... I do not think it means what you think it means."
From what I remember I think that Vampires passively "seduces" everyone around them. That may be the reason too. Why they started to like her.
"Good Serana, gooood. The Force is stroooong in you. A powerful Sith you shall become."
Sheev Palpatine/Darth Sidious
11:00 "we don't know" me focusing on his broken wrist
Nate: “They never mentioned the Dawnguard in ESO”. ESO:”ooooohhhh shit that’s what we forgot”
Nate you surprise me, altthogh I'm a die-hard elder scrolls fan, 2 of those were completely new to me. Keep up the good work. Btw Serana forever:3
the glowing dawnguard axe, looks godly, what mod is that?!
Edit: wow, I have that mod, just never found the runic axe lmao
What is that mod plz!!!??
@@raphchelly3413 Frankly HD Dawnguard Armor, from FrankFamily (on the Nexus)
Are you swedish?
@@SS_Joker_88-18 no, my user name is an old PewDiePie meme. Ancient history at this point.
You're at the back of the castle and jump down the hole you'll land in the old Dawnguard area
Nate’s back, guys!
What about Nate's back?
I found my comment from 6 months ago
Holy shit he's still going with these, I applaud the dedication bruh 🔥🔥🔥
As soon as I finish the dawnguard quest I turn into a vampire. I’m there undercover agent 🧛🏾♂️
Nice
Very true but luckily that’s where mods come in
Unrelated to Dawnguard, but also cool.
If you wear a piece of thieves guild armor, while talking to the blacksmith in Solsthiem, he tells you he used to be a guild brother, with his birth brother Delvin. Doing a quest for him, gets you a key to his house, where you find a letter to his daughter Sapphire
Well, as she said herself, "she's nothing but persuasive".
Hi there, thanks for the video. I might be a little late, however I might have something to add to all of these. In ESO the Fighter's Guild skill line has a skill called "Silver Bolts". The skill descrition reads as follows: "Fire a Dawnguard Vampire Hunter's crossbow bolt to strike the enemy...". This just might suggest, that Dawnguard has indeed existed at the time of ESO and it is somehow connected to the Fighter's Guild, it just might has been a subdivision of the Fighter's Guild focused on vampires or something, though not appearing in Greymoor is still strange. I don't know if ESO skill descriptions can be trusted as canon thing or used in this kind of investigations, but this is an interesting detail.
Still wish there was a secret to marry Serena with no mods
@@spasdelev1284 I mean, you could marry her and still have her as a follower.
So do I. It's frustrating that u need a mod to marry her
@@spasdelev1284 ...Lydia can still be a Follower, even when Married.
All it does, is give her a new set of lines.
Infact, Spouse Characters don't really change their roles THAT much when they're married to you. Companions are still companions, and NPCs are still NPCs. The difference is their dialogue and options afterwards.
It's a shame, really, As I like Shahvee. Wish she was a Companion post-marriage, especially with the implication she was a Rogue Type prior to Skyrim. (She gives the Dragonborn some extra levels in Lockpicking, One-Handed and Light Armor after her mini-quest to retrieve her amulet.)
Kostadin Hadjidinev wow, take a chill pill bruh
Simp
Florentius is a member you forgot to mention. He (or Arkay) says they weren't so much a noble bunch as the story tells us, rather they were looting, stealing, raiding etc. And had all that stolen loot stashed in a cave in the fortress.
Serena: *exists
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Vigilants: "NEVER SHOULD HAVE COME HERE!"
Few missions: later oh well im gonna make an exception
I haven't started this questline yet. Can't wait. I was waiting till I finished the main questline a second time, due to bug that messed up the dragonborn questline. I'm gonna skewer those vampires
Standar Survivor: "I will go to the cave and avenge my brothers and sisters!"
Isran: "No! You're NOT experienced!"
*turns to player who literally just entered DG castle*: "You there, you should go."
Its so nice to escape the chaos happening these days to this fictional world to just learn interesting facts about the Dawnguard. Its refreshing that at least some things aren't completely changing because of current events. Thank you Nate, keep up the good work.