The Definitive Way to Play Sonic R
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- Skip to the Tutorial: 3:48
Here's all the relevant download links:
- Sonic R Updater: gamebanana.com...
- Gentle Ring Sound Mod: gamebanana.com...
- Improved SFX Mod: gamebanana.com...
- Sonic 3D Blast Sounds Mod: gamebanana.com...
- You may need 7zip to open some of the compressed 7z archives: www.7-zip.org/
If you'd like to learn more about what, exactly, was broken with Sonic R's lighting engine and how it got fixed, InvisibleUp wrote about the process: invisibleup.ne...
Tutorial:
Step 1: Install Sonic R. If "install.exe" won't work, try "setup.exe." If neither work, copy all files and folders from the CD and paste them in to a folder somewhere on your computer.
Step 2: Run the Sonic R Updater. When it asks you for a folder, tell it where you just put the Sonic R files.
Step 3: When the Sonic R Updater finishes, it will launch the Sonic R Mod Manager. In the Mod Manager, bring up the "Graphics" tab. This is mostly up to your preference, but I'd uncheck "Windowed" and "Force 4:3 Aspect Ratio." In the drop-down menu to the right, select "Native" to set the game to your monitor's resolution. Or, if you want, you can leave these options alone.
Step 4: I'd also recommend installing one of the sound mods listed above. You only need one, so don't install all three at the same time. Place the mod's folder in your Sonic R mods directory. If you still have the Mod Manager open, you may need to click "Refresh" to get the mod to show up. Check the box next to the mod to enable it, then click "Save."
Step 5: Launch Sonic R, but head in to the options first to set up your controls if you think you need to. If you're using a controller, I'd set "Action" (Jump) to the A button, "Accel" to the X button, "Camera" to the Y button, "L Brake" to the left bumper, and "R Brake" to the right bumper.
Step 6: You're done! Play the game!
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If you stop playing Sonic R like a platformer and treat it more like a racer by using the accelerate button to run and bumpers to do sharp turns, it’s actually a really fun game. It just had hardly any levels
Most racing games of that era didn't have many anyway
It's not the best racer but yeah you can legit have fun with it as a weird racing game with a couple platformer elements instead of a platformer with a couple racing elements.
Truth
Hey you're that meme guy from Instagram
Honestly the reason I feel Sonic R is so fun is because rather than a racing game, it is more of a 3d platformer. This is why I liked it better than other racing games from the era. It was a 3d platforming game disguised as a racer.
Unique Sonic games like Sonic R and Sonic The Fighters need to be remade but better.
Right?
Sonic Battle
Sonic 3d blast was pretty unique, and one of the original devs made a director's cut version.
Sonic *R*eboot
Facts
I just hope somebody out there makes a definitive Sonic Heroes one day.
Or how bout a definitive Sonic Adventure 2 Battle that restores the dreamcast DLC and lighting.
Heros is so underrated it's lumped into the bad Sonic game pile occasionally but it's very good, well at least head and shoulders above the worst Sonic game
I recall playing Heroes on PC with a mod loader.
@@Smilephile its kind of hard to be worse than secret rings
I would pay anything to have a version of Heroes with the quickstep or anything that can keep me from constantly hugging the wall as a speed character.
I am unbelievably happy to see a sonic R video in 2019 that talks about it in a sense that isn’t bashing the controls or hating it due to that being the common consensus. I love Sonic R with a passion. This is an absolutely solid video, I’m really glad my friend showed it to me. Great work
Hear, hear!
@Replayed Word, all of that following others opinions sh- is lame
I used to play the hell out of this game on PC as a kid. I always remember it controlling horribly (I used a keyboard, pressed up to move, and never even knew there was a drift, so yikes) and I had a nightmare of a time unlocking everything, so I never really came back to it as an adult. After this video though, my interest peaked and I gave this a try and replayed the updated Sonic R with the racing game controls like you said. It was honestly a whole new experience and I have a brand new appreciation for this game now. It was so surprisingly fun, I just sat there and beat everything and got all the characters and emeralds and stuff. It's like it patched a memory up and now I can come back to this and have fun, which is pretty mind blowing for me. Just wanted to say thanks for sparking peoples interest in this and convincing people to give this clunky old thing a try, you've given me some fond memories to look back on. Nice video man.
Also you have a smooth ass voice.
I remember how my pc couldn't handle it performance wise so it ran a lil slow, and I didn't know this till later when I played it on a better PC I was like HOLY SHIT I CAN'T CONTROL IT IT'S TOO FAST! 😂 The original slower speed honestly helped me play it better.
I had no idea there was a drift button either lmaooo
8:35
IS THIS WHAT THIS TRACK WAS SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE ALL ALONG??
I can't say how grateful I am for this video dude, especially since I was so much less knowledgeable on Sonic R's porting problems (as opposed to SA1 and 2). It's a game I hold near and dear to my heart, not least because of its music (that stopped working on my childhood copy lol), and I can't wait to play it again. Thank you!
I was just as shocked by Radiant Emerald at that part too, man. Honestly with how smooth the rainbow pattern is you almost don't see how low-poly the track is, it almost looks modern.
CAN YOU FEEL THE SUNSHINE
@@Zennan I can! Fancy meeting you here by the way lol
I KNOW, IT BEING TRANSPARENT AMAZES ME
Pretty sure it wasn't colorful on the original Saturn release.
I wonder if GameHut knows a way to unlock Sonic R's framerate.
@Autumn the Squirrel Nice! He replied. He is such a cool guy. I bet getting Sonic R to run at 60fps would be a fun challenge for Jon.
@@RG7621 Surely if it was tied to the code it would just mean most speed values being nerfed, adjusting how quickly the clock progresses per second, extending jump values so they don't last like a second and other stuff like that. Could very much be possible just would need a lot of values double checked to still be playable
It becomes much easier when you have access to the game's source code, and then do testing to ensure that there are no (or few) timing related snags. M2 was able to port Virtua Racing to the Switch, and also increased the frame limit from 30 to 60 FPS. The main reason why PC ports often have framerate locks is because publishers see PC as a "least concern" platform, and want to cut porting costs to maximize profits, plus they already have free defenders on Steam forums where they continually defend awful ports being released at full price. Source code access is the reason why Mortal Kombat X got "unbusted" on PC by a different developer; if you can save a trainwreck then you can surely improve a game.
I wonder if GameHut knows a way to add netplay to the newer port, like in the patch for the older PC version. I'd appreciate that, a lot
@@sethseth6ify If there was netplay in one version of the game, then surely the modders have been able to transplant it. Even though it was rereleased, the base code hasn't changed much so it should be significantly easier than trying to hack in 60fps support.
Excellent video, thanks for doing this. I've always loved Sonic R!
Now, I just wish there was a way to restore the Saturn version of Radiant Emerald. You're not kidding with that seizure warning!
Well, the transparency is restored in this mod. It just also has the disco lights still present.
I personally enjoy the mix of the two together; disco transparency.
That said, it would be a nice feature to be able to turn off the disco light for more authenticity.
Oh hey man! Small world seeing you here. :)
Without the transparency on it's like staring into a strobe light because the lighting mod makes the track so much brighter. It's super easy to turn off the strobe effect, though, so I'll look into that.
@@InvisibleUp Ah, that is interesting! Is that caused due to the same reason that certain objects like on the title screen etc appear brighter?
Also, that would be cool for people who just want transparency. I myself, as stated above, like them together. Having options is always a good thing~ 😎
@@PeterDCOHanlon Nah. It's just because the background is black, so when the stage is semi-transparent it looks darker than it would otherwise.
The issue with the shiny title screen stuff is because it's still using the vertex colors for the Direct3D mode, which are brighter to make up for the lighting engine being wrong. I still need to sit down and figure out how to fix it for the shiny objects, because they're rendered differently than everything else.
Such a difference, gotta love the modding community!
I may be in the minority, but I actually really enjoyed Sonic R.
SteveGames same. When I first learned people hated it I was genuinely shocked
Yeah. I think a lot of people's gripes with it come from false expectations, but if you just embrace the game for what it is, it's actually really fun. Kinda short, but fun nonetheless.
I enjoyed it but could easily see the cracks.
Same here
S a m e
Oh, I never heard the Saturn Sonic 3D Blast ring effect before, that's a really satisfying sound
And i realized the shield sound is in an SRB2 mod.
Two words.
THANK YOU!!!!
After all this time, I can finally play the game I've always had, not a watered down version as a means to an end TvT
Thanks for this Blaze, I actually still had my copy of Sonic R, So i installed it again & followed the Tutorial.
Thanks to this, i can now play Sonic R on my Windows 10 gaming PC, Even better is now i can use my Xbox One Controller too!
Wow, you weren't kidding when you said this is simple to do! Already got it set up. :)
I also use the knuckles shoe fix mod, it fixes knuckles’ shoe (obviously) from tails’ shoe with an extra texture on it, to knuckles’ shoes.
You're telling me that my game had mussed up graphics all these years and I didn't even realise
god damnit.
Coming Soon, the Definitive Way to Play Sonic Adventure 2: Battle PC.
This will take a while
there's no fucking mods for the game other than character swaps, cheats, a shitty enb, netplay, and an emerald coast port
xMetalx59x chao garden extended you fucking swine
@@dinglebingus2625 now there are mods. Model swaps and stages too
@@imdone8243 and cutscene fixes.
They fixed Sonic R, but they won't fix the PC version of Sonic Heroes.
It's mainly an issue with the DRM.
If there is a way for the DRM to be completely disabled (Piracy patches do not work, as it still communicates with the incompatible DRM) fine.
But for the time being, it's impossible to run it on anything newer than unpatched 7
we can't run sonic heroes anymore?? shiat
@@CHMernerner On 7 there is a way of disabling the update that breaks Heroes' DRM. But 8 and newer, it is impossible, unless SEGA release a DRM free executable.
@@Motscoud Funny that you say that since there is a DRM-free version of Heroes in a re-release package (it came with Adventure DX, Riders, and Mega Collection+) and apparently it uses a crack to remove the DRM.
@@Motscoud the "sonic pc collection" supposedly has no drm on heroes.
Great video as always, Blaze! Makes me wanna go out and buy a copy of Sonic R if nothing else for the nostalgia.
Oh my goodness, thank you for this video! I have missed playing Sonic R so much over the years, it was always a fan favorite of mine. Now I'm going to buy the PC version and get this mod!
Was the weather effects and time of day of the PC version affected by the PC's internal clock/calandar? or was it just random?
fancy seeing u here
also 11 minutes gang
It was just random. I remember reloading some levels multiple times trying to get the snow to come up.
@@BlazeHedgehog i just changed the weather option from "random" to "snow" in the options lol
I didn't think you were a Sonic fan.
This was one of my fav games on Saturn and until this very moment I had no idea that it was on PC or that the PC version looked so damn good
Except the PC version looked so damn good _and_ bad at the same time.
Does it fix the tails model? Tails had white on his ears on Saturn, but never had it on the PC version due to a rendering bug.
> The network mode was also removed as the game got re-released up into the 2000's.
Just in time for home networks to actually become reasonably common.
I remember when all you could do was get a patched exe from a website (able to run on faster hardware) and use dxwnd (so the keyboard wouldn't lock up as soon as the game booted).
Sonic R is awesome and you can’t tell me otherwise. The only complaint I have is that Tails’s flight and max run SFX (same sound) need to be lowered or removed altogether.
Ah, a fellow 1600 x 900 user.
I've always wondered if some creative modder could turn Sonic R into its own sort of Sonic game. I don't think we've tried a Sonic game where A moves you forward, but as you've stated about Sonic gameplay in the past, Modern Sonic games have become almost like racing games. In that vein, why not try a Sonic game with racing-style controls?
There's definitely some potential for a Sonic R Platformer,
Ive often thought a new game in 3D blast's engine could be really cool
Sonic 3 A.I.R. is making some progress, this could be a basis for a future episode.
I was introduced to Sonic R as a kid. I found it at a used game store we used to have here while looking for games for the Saturn that I purchased (it was 2009 or smth. I thought it looked cooler then the PS3 lol) and I recently came across a PC disc for it which I didn't even know existed. It's going to be great reliving my childhood again!
I'm so happy to see this video I clicked on it immediately, Sonic R is one of my old faves from the Saturn and I have tried in years since to run the Sonic R PC port with less success with each new computer so I'm absolutely thrilled to find an update & fix....
now if only someone could give the PC port of Sega Rally the same treatment
D A N M 3 years since and this guide still works
I love this guy's voice. It has that specific sound rage to it.
What does that even mean
@@BlazeHedgehog The way you pronounce syllables and letters, it's soothing.
Sonic R?
More like Sonic RYAN BLOOM
...
give me a break it's 2 am
I specifically went and bought a PC copy of Sonic R and followed your steps just to play it for the first time. Seeing you said looking at it as a driving game rather than a platformer made me get used to the controls fairly easily. It's a fun little gem. Thanks for the video
7:30 This statement makes complete sense when you remember that the game originally was going to be an F1 style racer.
Thanks for the tutorial! Just downloaded it and I'm going to play it with my favorite person in the world tomorrow!
I ended up using both the Improved SFX mod and the Sonic 3D Saturn SFX mod (although that resulted in me only getting the bumper sounds from the Better SFX mod)
I clicked on this (from my recommended vids) expecting it to be about gameplay tips, etc--was pleasantly surprised! I've only ever played the GC port, so I had no idea that the lighting was so broken. Great video. Might have to go track down the PC version to try it/the mods out :D
I never knew Sonic R was released on the PC, now I want it.
You should also install the sonic r improvement mod
Edit: It makes the physics better and makes the characters more balanced
Ahh thank you so much for this video! I've been wanting to replay this game from my past, but was actually wondering what differences there actually were between the different versions (and which is best).
Sonic R is a very misunderstood game - it may not be the best, but it has undeniable charm and I love it ♥
I got Sonic R for the Saturn that Christmas. Honestly having only 5 tracks wasn't unusual for the time. Sega Rally had what, 4? And the 4th one was really hard to unlock, so more like 3. Oh and it only had 3 cars. But it's still a fantastic game.
Sonic R sometimes gets a bad rap but I love it. The only game that does 3D Sonic properly in my opinion. I never had any issues with the controls, unlike some. Better than the complete lack of control you seem to have in the recent games. And although he ran fast, it wasn't the absurd speeds the new games have. Which is honestly how it should be.
I'm happy to know now why I loved Sonic R back then
Thank you so much!! I missed this game and these improvements are smoooooth
Aaaaand I've 100% completed it again :')
Great mods, really improve the visuals and overall experience!
I thought that i was the only guy that liked Sonic R, but reading this comment section is making me happy
Same
Thanks man! I tried to play my copy of Sonic R a couple of years ago but it just didn't work. Apparently it was something about how the game checks the PC's specs using loading times being too quick. Tried some suggestions like changing a line in the code that checks the speed, or playing in a specific dial windowed DirectX sandbox thing, and neither option had great success. But this looks like the answer I was hoping for!
Great video. Also, I have your PC case! Nice.
A user by name of Showin recently released a Sonic R improvement mod that genuinely does a lot to fix many of the issues with the control scheme as well as rebalancing characters. Even has a final boss race added to the game against eggman, I’d recommend you check it out it’s pretty cool, would definitely be a good thing to add to a definitive version to play the game.
Professor Abrasive, the guy who's working on the device that will bypass the Saturn copy protection and allow you to run disc images from the port in the back, called the Satiator, said something to the effect of the Saturn's hardware only allowing certain data throughput speeds, so his device won't speed up load times.
I imagine this is why Sonic R is hard capped at 30fps, because the hardware couldn't get data fast enough to do any better.
i hope that now more people know that, more mods and other stuff can appear in this game.
i f@cking love this game, and because i don't own a gamecube/saturn, don't have the ps2 version and the pc version (before watching this video) was unplayble in modern systems.
thanks man.
btw, sorry for my broken english.
I love your videos! Also, has anyone told you that you sound like a warm, friendly version of Dan vs, or Snott from American Dad? That's actually not an insult, because I love that guy's voice work!
Most people don't usually add the "warm, friendly" bit.
I wonder if GameHut could take a look at the code to make it 60fps?
But why is it necesarry?
@@aluigiFromKart PC Mustard Race accepts no less
@@licentioushowler3400 what kind of bullcrap is that? >:0
@@aluigiFromKart There are literally people out there who cannot play a game if it runs sub-60.
It's utterly baffling to me having grown up on Super Mario 64 (30 fps), Ocarina of Time/Majora's Mask (20 fps), countless 30 fps 7th gen games, and running whatever I could on a crap PC for years back before I could really get a job out of school and afford a big boy PC.
I also totally didn't make a pretty bad jokey mock video about this topic on my channel. Totally didn't.
@@licentioushowler3400 i once watched 4 60fps videos and got dizzy >:(
I actually never knew about the colored lighting because I grew up with the GameCube version
To be honest, I like Sonic R. Not in terms of being a racing game like CTR or Mario Kart, but in terms of everything else.
I lived my whole life thinking the Gamecube version was how the Saturn version looked but I was wrong, it was the scuffed computer version. I play Sonic R like a racing game because every part of it screams racing, including Amy but not anyone else.
Alright so I watched this out of curiosity right to the end and saw your disc drive struggles...now hear me out, I know it's a nitpick, but:
If you find any random trashed PC made in 2008 or later with a DVD drive chances are you've got a good replacement within 20 minutes of fiddling with dragging the broken machine's drive out, dragging your drive out of your machine and throwing the "new" drive in.
Not a bad idea, really.
I’ve never forgotten about this game after playing it at my cousins house 20+ years ago 😊
this man knows how the PC way is the DEFINITIVE way, respect man
Radiant Emerald looks gorgeous with those effects.
Awesome. Now if only someone can care enough to mod Asteroids 98 on PC.
This is the only definitive way to play that actually worked 100%
I still think Sonic R has on of the best level desing of 3D Sonic games. Reach some shortcuts is almost like play 2D Sonic but in 3D.
bro i dont even have sonic r i just watched this because I always wanted to see what a better looking sonic r would look like and I'm glad I saw this!
I think if this game came out before Mario kart 64 it would have been more fondly remembered.
Can't wait for the "Definitive Way to Play Sonic Heroes"
If anyone knows their way around XInput Plus, you can also improve modern XInput controller support for the game, allowing for proper D-pad and analog triggers support.
Great video. Thanks for making it.
im surprised this has only 50k views, this is genuinely cool and useful
Excited to try this! Glad to know I’m not the only one who loved sonic R! :D
I don’t understand what is with developers and using the worst versions of games for re-releases and ports. I get it’s the latest version and what not, but like, it’s also the worst version
1:21
WHAT?!?! Is was??!
I unironically played and loved this game and didn't know that.
Honestly Sonic R is a good game..................okay it's not my place to say weather or not it's objectively "Good" but i like it
Sonic R is the perfect example that there's not always a parallel between a game being good and an game being fun
I almost thought this was gonna be a joke video about how different the controls are but I'm really glad I watched this. :)
Also if you use a VPN network you can connect via LAN with anyone connected to the exact same network.
The definitive way to play Sonic unleashed?
Xbox one?
The GameCube version with Sonic gems collection
So this is where the youtubers go to hang out
hey man, loved the video, i just wanted to ask if you remembered like a year or two ago i accidentally started a huge fight in your comments because i said something about how your voice sounded, but then i talked to you on twitter and we worked it out like bros, it was a good day. anyways i just wanted to say your voice sounds great now, i don't know if you're recording it differently or taking hamōn breathing classes or something but just keep doing what you're doing, you sound great, and much love from ya boy zachary C G
I have a vague memory of that, yeah. I think part of what makes it sound better now is I've learned more about how to master audio, so things like P and S sounds aren't so sharp anymore. Going back and listening to older videos before I learned how to do this is actually kind of painful for me now.
BlazeHedgehog filtering out the 'plosives! nice as fuck. just keep rocking and then alternately rolling my dude 😎
I played the pc version back in the day and was actually kind of sad i couldnt anymore, thanks!
Huh, I didn't know there was a updater for the old Sega PC version...I honestly wish the game was on Steam so that all of this would be slightly quicker and easier...
So, im a few years too late, but a crucial detail for those of you still playing this game that was left out of this video: the cursor moves so absurdly slow in the menus on the Saturn/PC version compared to the Sonic Gems port.
in the Sonic R mod manager, under "codes" theres a code for speeding up the cursor movement to the speed from the Gems port. this is another essential change to really make this the definitive version imo, it makes a world of difference despite being a small change
Trivia: in Sonic R, Super Sonic can run on water. Plus, Super Sonic is a broken and unbalanced character because when you play against him, he will easily beat you in a race. In other words, if you play as Metal Sonic, Tails Doll, Metal Knuckles or EggRobo, you will be forced to race against Super Sonic. If you don't want to race against Super Sonic, then stick with the default characters (Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Amy and Dr. Eggman).
*cough* Iwonlotsofracesagainstsupersonicwithtailsdoll *cough* Imaddictedtosonicrhelp *cough*
Hm? Oh, sorry. I have a cold. *cough* killme *cough*
Now I just gotta figure out how to make this all work on Steam Deck.
Man I was struggling to get this to run and then I remembered your video.
Gog damn, thank you for this man.
the way you say game banana is oddly satisfying
1:02 one of the few sonic games that was released 1st in america form my knowlage
My childhood😭❤️
Sonic R is a really fun and underrated spin-off in my opinion
Since this video has been made, this game has recieved many more mods which might make it outdated. I feel like you should give links to the following mods in the description:
Sonic R Improvement by Showin
Metal Knuckles has Green Eyes by L0an47
and L0an47's Fun Pack (even though some codes are expermiental and only work in specific scenarios)
I believe the Sonic R Improvement mod had just come out while I was in the process of finishing this up and I didn't include it because I'd rather remain a purist and not get into a whole debate about how to "fix" the game's physics (in part because I don't even think they need to be fixed; there's a reason I have the "it's a Sonic game, just bounce around" line)
3:33 It is ok man!
I love this game!
Though people played Sonic R like a platformer instead of a racing game?
I never played it like that. To me it was a racing game with Sonic characters and played it like that.
Had a lot of fun unlocking and using Super Sonic. And got introduce to Metal Knuckles and Tails Doll here.
A shame Metal Knuckles never appeared again.
I have this on the Saturn, and I had trouble placing why the PC version looked so dull to me until now.
God, what I wouldn't give for a Sonic R re-release.
If only there were something like this for Billy hatcher for PC. The sound effects blow your eardrums out.
Edit: I'll give you one of my spare DVD drives if you make a billy hatcher sound mod.
Speaking of; always wanted to play that. Should I buy the PC version from Amazon or track down a GameCube disc?
Sonic R has many problems but I love playing that game!
Sonic R Improvement Mod + Sonic R Updater = a Playable Sonic R On 2022
i played the daylights out of this on my 486 laptop. at about 10 to 15 FPS most of the time.
lots of fun. glad to know an update is out to make it run on newer computers. thanks
I still have my sonic R disc, but when I played it on my old computer my save kept getting erased.
Unfortunately my new computer doesn't have a disc drive now.
Sweet! I wanted to play Sonic R on PC, but couldn't, because my PC is too fast to run the game. Hopefully this fixes things. Hopefully the network feature works as well, and if it doesn't, then maybe a mod can fix it.
I love this game. Why do so many people hate it. It’s such a good time to just play, and that soundtrack OOOOOH BABY