[Classic game with ai] A demolition expert Chochikun vs Killer Katomasao game analysis with ai

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  • 50th Honinbo title best 7 5th game
    A demolition expert Cho-Chikun vs Killer Katomasao
    This game was played so long ago but they were very strong! many things to learn :)
    It is also interesting to see ai's analysis. Enjoy it! :D
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  • @eloimcutillasvalles5750
    @eloimcutillasvalles5750 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Gato Masao, means "strong cat" in Spanish XD

  • @StrawberryLegacy
    @StrawberryLegacy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Cho Chikun's style is chaotic, just like his hair these days

  • @petermartin9494
    @petermartin9494 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Thank you, you are a great teacher. I really enjoy this kind of content. Your own opinion plus that of AI is very interesting.

  • @hippophile
    @hippophile 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Kato Masao was a real gentleman (I met him, he even commented a couple of my games). One of my favourite ever players! Thanks for this - and next time show one of his wins, eh? :))

  • @jm.5138
    @jm.5138 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Very nice to see a top level game analyzed by you, a go professional, enhanced by AI suggestions. I read Kato Masao's book Attack and Kill. Painful to see him lose a group at the end by mistake. A big thank you from the USA.

    • @Hyrtsi
      @Hyrtsi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't feel as much ashamed if I lose a big group in endgame after seeing that it can happen in pro games too

  • @hironakae
    @hironakae 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is so fascinating! hearing how much time was spent on a move is very insightful.

  • @Zendath666
    @Zendath666 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just discovering you after The Devil's Plan and having been a fan of other Go creators on youtube and playing on a very amateur level this is great!

  • @ontheballcity71
    @ontheballcity71 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the review! I played over this game many years ago. A magazine called "Go World" published it with an English commentary at the time.

  • @dulcecasitas3056
    @dulcecasitas3056 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonderful! Thank you for the analysis AND the anecdotal commentary.

  • @al-b
    @al-b 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this was a really fun and valuable analysis, thanks for all your hard work putting it together! love seeing your personality when you talk about which moves were huge mistakes or which players' styles are showing. it's also great to hear your take on AI suggestions

  • @bunderbah
    @bunderbah 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Games that last multiple days sounds like a good tradition. Will we/do we still have games like that in the age of AI? Being able to analyze the game with AI during the breaks feels like killing the spirit of the game.

  • @GordonEngels
    @GordonEngels 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for this insightful and funny analysis - miss you please take care and make new videos soon!

  • @vyacheslavbrodovoy2039
    @vyacheslavbrodovoy2039 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kato Sensei is my favourite Go player, as a master and as a person. Pity he left us so early.

  • @JB-gy7ip
    @JB-gy7ip 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi from France. this is very interesting to follow your commentaires. Thank you also to accelerate the initial rythm or this game with more than one hour between the stones during the opening !

  • @mikhaild7871
    @mikhaild7871 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you so much! Amazing review :)

  • @StrawberryLegacy
    @StrawberryLegacy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Classic game with AI is my favorite video series, it's soo interesting

  • @paulbloemen7256
    @paulbloemen7256 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! I appreciate the amount of work it takes to prepare it, you can be proud about the result. The two players were giants, good to see them remembered this way. Thank you!

  • @andyrenshaw9148
    @andyrenshaw9148 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great game thank you for the commentary - excellent :)

  • @ajg7810
    @ajg7810 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    These are two of my favorite players as well. It's great to see one of their games against each other commented by a pro! Thanks!

  • @GGLun
    @GGLun 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm a fan of Cho Chikun

  • @bleydoka6357
    @bleydoka6357 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the analysis.You explain very well and also give backgroundinformations. There really aren't enough good english go channels. 10 years ago i had to watch korean streams without understanding the commentary.

  • @steveurick3044
    @steveurick3044 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love Chi Chikun with all my heart. But you are also the greatest!

  •  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thank you, very nice narrator, love you

  • @teeratats
    @teeratats 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for making such a fun and knowledgeable review. If you have time in the future, I would like to see you review a game between these two players played on 1981-9- 9. I have been tried to make sense of this game but it's far too complicate for me. ( I'm about 1 digit kyu level)

  • @fredorosny
    @fredorosny 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hello, thanks to you we can enjoy old beautiful games too ^^ Which AI did you use ? I used Katago with 5.5 komi and the % were differents

  • @touisbetterthanpi
    @touisbetterthanpi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was really fantastic. Really well prepared, yet still fun and genuine

  • @joseviviano5437
    @joseviviano5437 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah! Cho-Chikun!!! Thanks for the video, I was expectating for this.

  • @helxis
    @helxis 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for showing us these great games! It would be fun to find games where a pro plays a move that AI does not like, but is actually good.

  • @arekkrolak6320
    @arekkrolak6320 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! Cho Chikun is the best!

  • @ImTheReal
    @ImTheReal 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for sharing 🙏💎

  • @Tovify
    @Tovify 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You have very good taste ! :-) Thank you

  • @hellblazerjj
    @hellblazerjj 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing video thank you.

  • @nijamagi1031
    @nijamagi1031 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic!

  • @nahuelcesattilaluce1257
    @nahuelcesattilaluce1257 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cool video!

  • @jowilson5581
    @jowilson5581 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, the fighting spirit is incredible in this game. Thanks!

  • @ewallt
    @ewallt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    These are great. Please do more. Maybe Rin Kai Ho vs. Ishida.

  • @usmleflashcards994
    @usmleflashcards994 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great game!! Thanks!!!

  • @ewalltom
    @ewalltom 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    These are great! I like to see the AI variations.

  • @TheBrokoli42
    @TheBrokoli42 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The automated subtitles call cho chikun true chicken ;D

  • @AediWang
    @AediWang 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Yeonwoo for the great video! What do you use for AI analysis? KataGo? also, it might be helpful to display some AI analysis visualizations.

  • @ChibiRuah
    @ChibiRuah 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love progames and find the few of watch of Cho to be fun as he is very expressive. Also I like your energy of your videos and how you break them down though at like 8k I struggle to understand the logic some times

  • @galliance
    @galliance 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    i watched Hikaru no Go years ago. Why am i watching this x-x

  • @Hwrd-sw5do
    @Hwrd-sw5do 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you :)

  • @williamrice71
    @williamrice71 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    RIP Killer Kato..!!!

  • @Vinyl-Movement
    @Vinyl-Movement ปีที่แล้ว

    What a thriller!

  • @macnolds4145
    @macnolds4145 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    great game, great review. thanks!

  • @romaintisserand8921
    @romaintisserand8921 ปีที่แล้ว

    More please

  • @stevecarson7031
    @stevecarson7031 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks!!!

  • @pianoforte611
    @pianoforte611 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd be interested to see if strong players could beat AI with super long time settings like these games, or even longer - 1 day per move. I'm not sure if it's been done.

  • @Bladavia
    @Bladavia 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also, inventor of the infamous Teasuji

  • @willikey
    @willikey 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What is the name of that book?

    • @phelan_pt
      @phelan_pt 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would like to know this too :)

  • @gangcai2876
    @gangcai2876 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    500 year ago, you are in same family.

  • @KOUGA108
    @KOUGA108 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kato Masao is my favourite professional pro player.

  • @tristan6128
    @tristan6128 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Chô Rock! 🤟

  • @ShiShiBaduk
    @ShiShiBaduk 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great content! Could you share SGF of the games you comment on your channel?

    • @paulschmit4480
      @paulschmit4480 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeonwoo as a couple of other professional or semi-professional Go/Baduk players are actually making a living on teaching which means they are dependent on students taking classes or get support regularly or just occasionally over the Patreon system, as a benefit you will also get relevant sgf-files. Actuallly Yeonwoo is mentioning Patreon in this video which she spent over 4 hours to prepare. I myself was unaware of this for quite some time but now I support contributors whose videos I study regularly, anything else would not be fair.

  • @coffeejazzdude9726
    @coffeejazzdude9726 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Got any videos where you play guitar?

  • @VulcanOnWheels
    @VulcanOnWheels 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:12 So you put your surname first when saying your name?

  • @Funaru
    @Funaru 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I didn't expect professionals would loudly comment their own games during a tournament.

    • @PhenomUprising
      @PhenomUprising 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Cho Chikun is a special case. Usually they don't.

  • @leoalejandro1989
    @leoalejandro1989 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can I say you that I love you so much?. So, I love you speake form and you actitud. I love you

  • @fantasybricks7553
    @fantasybricks7553 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a social questions.
    Does someone became a legendary Gopro if hi was born in a poor family? I think no because of the lack of social backing. But maybe Im wrong.

  • @danubioseneolitic8668
    @danubioseneolitic8668 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gato or Kato ?

  • @danielschmidt5188
    @danielschmidt5188 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yo, your occasional "tak tak tak" could be translated as "like this like this like this" or as "that that that". Quite frankly, the meaning stays the same.

  • @darekk7459
    @darekk7459 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Funny that so famous best killer Kato didn't see so obvious life&death problem for his own group, maybe his killer instinct punished him more to pay attention to his opponent's weaknesses ;)
    And wasn't the Chikun's habit of talking during the game criticized? I read that Japanese ethics prohibits commenting during the game. And in fact it can be very distracting and unpleasant for an opponent, I'd piss off and tell an opponent to shut up.

  • @SasukeyoUchiha
    @SasukeyoUchiha 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think I am in Love. Would you marry me?