Yeah the only reason i don't like skim milk is because the fat makes it taste better .. not because its worse for you. But a little fat can improve taste by a lot imo
I am confused about Abbew's age. A site on the interweb gives his exact date of birth, 10/10/68, which would make him 55 years old today, that age is consistent with his pro debut in 1998, in the same video on Steroids referenced next, he also says he started training young. But in the video he did about a month ago about steroids, he claimed to be in his 60s (it is always suspicious when someone gives a wide range for their age). I suspect he is exaggerating his age to present himself as the super fit old guy for marketing purposes.
Ive lost 25 lbs in 2 months following Eddie's way. I have not counted 1 f'ing calorie. I havent been to the gym in this time. Its all about what foods I put in my body. A lot of people who have gone this way have also reversed their Diabetes. You dont need science when they are thousands of people whose lives have improved significantly. And ive tried all kinds of different weight loss methods for a decade. None were sustainable like Eddie's plan. Why? Because once i eat properly , I no longer crave unhealthy food. So you can be right all you want, however from my experience, I have tried variety of ways to reduce body weight, Fat Adaption through Eddie is the only that has worked wonders for me. Before you knock it, try it for 4-12 weeks and see how your body feels. If his plan messes you up, go back to "destroying" Eddie.
@@pierrefitch nope I don't drink milk at all. It bloats me if I touch that stuff. It's all about listening to my body. If it affects me negatively, I don't put it in my body. Eddie's plan is mostly about experimenting which foods work well with body and which don't. Easiest way is a cleanse of most toxic stuff.
It’s impressive how much Eddies content grinds my gears. He is the epitome of someone who speaks in clickbait and also does it with a moderate dose of rage behind it(“you shouldn’t eat dis fuckin shit cereal”). He’s a “contrarian” and leverages the ignorance of the viewer using shame and extremism that’s backed with zero evidence. HE IS TERRIBLE imo.
I thought I was the only one. Everytime someone criticizes his videos, some fanboy/fangirl just says that they would rather listen to Eddie instead of them because he is in great shape and was a “pro-bodybuilder”, which i’m PRETTY SURE doesn’t invalidate someone’s point. His whole “dont count calories” argument grinds my gears. I just hope that other VALID science-based fitness influencers call eddie out on his BS because there’s NO WAY there should be this much support for him.
@@jiasd123 lactose intolerance isn't really an allergy (it's an enzyme production deficiency of lactase), he's most likely referring to an actual immune response to the milk protein component in dairy where it only takes a very small amount to trigger an IgE mediated reaction.
I get awful heartburn and acid reflux from "factory" milk. Grassfed fermented dairy products like Kefir and goats or sheepsmilk cheeses cause zero issues for me and I make them a daily part of my diet now. There are some great grassfed sheepsmilk manchego and feta cheeses available- maybe try those.
I have no idea who this Eddie guy is, however I believe data suggests that whole milk produces greater satiety compared with skim milk. I've gone back and forth on whole vs skim vs 2% through my life. Right now I'm on the whole milk train. Tastes better, and the difference in my daily intake amounts to only a few grams of additional fat.
@@DoggieFosters Right, but Dr. Norton suggested in his video that this Eddie person gave no justification for "sugar and fat water" vs "sugar water." To an uneducated viewer they may think there is no benefit, and to go with the skim milk. I also remember when I first started lifting, over 20 years ago, some people were doing extremely low fat diets thinking fat was bad. We've come a long way since then.
yes of course it gives greater satiety, not even a remarkable point given that it still has the fat content. It is food. Take the fat out and Eddie is right, you have something akin to sugar water.
@@squirrelpatrick3670 "Sugar water" with the majoriry of the high qualiry macro & micronutrients that whole milk does. It's just silly to call it sugar water.
0:57 No buddy, you just can’t interpret what the guy is saying 😂 Eddie never says that the whole milk has less sugar or the fat free milk has more. He means that the fat free milk is deprived of the nutrients that come from the fat in whole milk, essentially leaving it with nothing but the sugar, which he’s referring to as “sugar water”. It’s not that difficult to understand… So, the rude/arrogant demeanour is what’s actually comedic 🤦♂️
Your assumption is that he or his subs think rational. Thinking rationally is something you only attain by education. These guys are stuck on an emotional level of thinking.
Im not sure but maybe he was just saying in a round about way that skimmed milk has had all of the other stuff removed and has just left you with sugar? 🤷🏻♂️ so its had all the good stuff taken out. I dont know the guys content at all but seems like a perfectly legitimate comparison, just worded poorly?
That's exactly what he saying. I think Eddie is kinda silly but he said he doesn't suggest drinking milk at all. The argument "How is whole milk not just sugar with fat, then?" Is exactly what I think Eddie was trying to say. That is, both are bad but at least one still has the fat. I feel like this video kind of dishonestly tried to twist it as if Eddie was endorsing one as having sugar and the other did not when I didn't hear that from Eddie at all.
Except that it is a wonderful source of protein, calcium and other vitamins. I’m all for healthy fats, but “all the good stuff” has not been removed and most people have plenty of fat in their diets. There’s nothing wrong with skim milk. I also have nothing against whole milk, but I prefer to drink skim milk and get my healthy fats elsewhere.
A little irrelevant, but I just want to say how it's weird that most of diet/nutrition world are usually anti-milk/dairy? Milk/dairy seems to be quite demonized often.
Milk consumption in the US is way down, and still declining, being replaced in part by all the motherless milks (plant). And yet the prices of whey protein continue to skyrocket. What is there a global shortage of cows? Me thinks we're being gouged for no real reason at all. I cut my consumption in half until prices come back to normal. If they don't, oh well, no loss. I'll just eat Greek yogurt.
It's an easy target, full of old arguments to regurgitate so they don't have to do any actual research. They can just repeat the same debunked nonsense people have been spouting for decades. Billions of people consume milk so it's a relevant subject, likely to gain a lot of traction and response, and it's a perfect example for people who are prone to the naturalistic fallacy. Add the spectre of lactose intolerance and it has all the ingredients you need to start a little cult: easy access to the message, wide appeal, and a discernable fear of the alternative. Oh and you get to virtue-signal for the poor cows and be against the dairy industry to boot so you can throw in how good you are for the environment and how against animal abuse you are. Worship my anti-milkness!
A lot of people have bad reactions to dairy. Some suggest blood-type plays a role. I’m type B and dairy is my ‘crack.’ I have one type B friend who likes dairy as well. I have way more type O friends, and none like dairy because it meases with their gut. The only thing I do know is some people like and tolerate dairy more than others and lots of people don’t do well with dairy. I also believe the FDA lists (pasteurized) dairy as the #1 food allergen - double check this if interested.
@@wellnesspathforme6236 People make up all kinds of explanations but there's no evidence that blood type plays a role of any kind in regards to dairy. Anecdotes really don't matter, I know people with blood type O who consume dairy frequently and I know people with type B who don't consume it, including one who is lactose intolerant. The FDA does indeed recognize milk as one of the nine major food allergens. Just "milk", not "pasturized milk", not "processed milk", but "milk, overall". The law they got passed specifically references cowmilk but the allergies get triggered by any milk containing similar proteins. The other eight are eggs, fish, Crustacean shellfish, tree nuts, peanuts, wheat, soybeans and sesame. That doesn't make milk or these other eight foods bad for people or unsuitable for consumption, it simply means that people who have specific allergies should avoid consuming these foods. You never see people marching against peanuts for some reason, or fish so why do it against milk?
You are just being rude. The fats helps lowering blood sugar spike, so in that sense the skim milk is bad, it is not how macros are supposed to be in natural food.
Or reading nutrition labels. Those folks boggle my mind. Do they really think people will just blindly believe whatever they say in some short and never double check actual information?
I clicked on this video because I saw Eddie’s name in the title. I am fascinated that this channel has so many followers and so many fans when all this guy does is insult his followers and produces nothing but reaction content where he bashes other people.
The point of the video was the fat within the milk is better than without. This guy just took eddies funny outlook on things that he displays on social media as a humor joke and turned it into a full blown criticism of which he tackles like a mad man. Eddie prioritizes high fats as one of his balances. This has an ego bigger than an elephant
i’ve been followed the nutrition world for over a decade now, and I remember when i disliked Layne too but the more you learn you realise Layne knows his shit
I've thought shit this before. I think it's because you need to drink more semi-skimmed milk to feel as full, it's not as nourishing or filling. Therefore you are consuming more sugar
Guessing that he advocates for whole milk since its more satiating. The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition found less risk of being overweight or obese to be associated with people who drank whole milk, and no such correlation with low fat dairy. It also naturally contains more fat soluable vitamins. The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition indicated that a group drinking whole milk had better vitamin d levels versus a group drinking low fat. They believed it was due to better bio availability in whole milk vs the fortified low fat milk. Honestly Layne, this isn't the dunk you are pretending it is. You could have at least thrown out some studies to back your opinion here.
All he was refuting was the claim that skim milk was sugar water compared to whole milk. There wasn’t any other claim here that Layne had a problem with. Why don’t you talk about what the video says and not the narrative in your head?
@@andrewzach1921 Back at ya. Layne could have and should have talked about the real scientific differences. It would show that while this dude's claims were at best hyperbole and at worst, misinformation, there are real reasons to advocate for whole milk over skim or low fat. Instead Layne acted as if this guy was to be taken at fave value and that his claims were ridiculous and there is nothing more to discuss about milk. Layne was being lazy imo.
@@PFirefly06 The video was about the sugar claims SPECIFICALLY! what part of that do you not get haha. If Eddie made outrageous claims about the full nutrient profile then Dr. Norton would have addressed that... with studies!!! Fact is, there was no need for studies as a simple comparison of nutrition labels refutes the claim from Eddie.
@@PFirefly06 Quite frankly people take these influencers at face value, so why exactly should Layne not do so when debunking the actual claims an influencer makes? Regarding your actual points by the way, do you have a reference to that study? YT is finnicky with links so an ID or specific keywords to search for would be good. Also has the study been replicated? Regarding the fat soluable vitamins in full fat milk, honestly it's 3.6% of your daily recommended intake. You'd exceed the daily recommended maximum for saturated fat long before you reached the minimum recommended value of daily vitamin A intake. You're better off eating a carrot if you want retinol.
You mean Paul Saladino who believed the Liver King was natural and not on massive amounts of Roids? But why rock the boat when your partnership with him is making you thousands of dollars a month from the supplement line due to his lies.
However, there is an obvious mutual respect between these two men and one is drawing attention to the other’s content in an act commercial brotherhood . Keep up the good work guys!
Correct me if I'm wrong but anyway as far as I understood all kind of milks (full fat, 1%, 2%...) are made by adding back the appropriate amount of cream to skim milk and then homogenized so the fat doesn't separate. (Which also means unless you go with "true" whole milk straight from the cow, most "whole milk" we purchase is even more processed than skim milk)
no disrespect doctor i respect.your postion and knowledge im currently 3 months in to eddies bulking diet ive lost my.belly fat look a lot sharper and better muscles more defined and honestly i feel so much better im not saying if hes right just giving my experience
My friend, I agree, you’ve seen progress. But be careful, that’s how they get you, they mix in truth with their lies. Find what is actually effective, and ditch the BS that serves no purpose.
be wary of anyone telling you not to consume dairy for health reasons, if you don't tolerate dairy, different story. if you tolerate dairy, it should be a part of your diet, skim or whole. you would have a difficult time finding a more nutrient dense food.
Skim milk is gross- its dyed white with titanium dioxide because after its been pasteurized and "skimmed" its this unappetizing anemic pale/clear liquid- they have to make it look like milk again. Proper milk from grassfed cows is thick and has a yellow/orangeish tint to it from all the beta-carotene. Natural grassfed dairy is loaded in vitamin A, K, CLA, has different fat ratios (3-6-9), etc... Grassfed meat and milk products also don't require antibiotics because cows getting their natural gut microbiome from the soil are naturally resistant to pathogenic bacteria like e-coli, and h-pylori. Cows fed sterilized high carb diets of corn and soy don't have proper gut bacteria and require way higher use of pre-emptive antibiotic treatment. Additionally the natural fat soluble vitamins are stripped out when milk is skimmed - that is why its "fortified" with synthetic forms of vitamins that are less bioavailable. I used to get the most awful acid reflux if I consumed "factory" dairy products. If I consume grassfed Kefir, and grassfed sheep or goatsmilk cheeses I get zero heartburn and feel great.
@@One-Ring-To-Rule-Them-All milk from a local farm is definitely better, probably not any different than normal store bought milk health wise unless you live very far from a source. i live relatively close to one, big chain stores buy from the local farms, probably about the same stuff. if you have the financial and geographical means to go purchase milk directly from a farm that is the best thing for the planet and the economy, but i don't think we should be shaming people or gatekeeping health because not everyone is that lucky
The labels must be all linked to Big Milk, right? But…wait a minute…if it’s sugar water…why do they even bother filtering the fat…? Well, at least there’s no need to add sugar to your chocolate milk…
Skim milk is gross- its dyed white with titanium dioxide because after its been pasteurized and "skimmed" its this unappetizing anemic pale/clear liquid- they have to make it look like milk again. Proper milk from grassfed cows is thick and has a yellow/orangeish tint to it from all the beta-carotene. Natural grassfed dairy is loaded in vitamin A, K, CLA, has different fat ratios (3-6-9), etc... Grassfed meat and milk products also don't require antibiotics because cows getting their natural gut microbiome from the soil are naturally resistant to pathogenic bacteria like e-coli, and h-pylori. Cows fed sterilized high carb diets of corn and soy don't have proper gut bacteria and require way higher use of pre-emptive antibiotic treatment. Additionally the natural fat soluble vitamins are stripped out when milk is skimmed - that is why its "fortified" with synthetic forms of vitamins that are less bioavailable. I used to get the most awful acid reflux if I consumed "factory" dairy products. If I consume grassfed Kefir, and grassfed sheep or goatsmilk cheeses I get zero heartburn and feel great.
Whole milk is a whole food and will not raise your sugar like skim milk. When the fat has been removed then it causes the spike. I'm really surprised you don't know this!!!
This is like, why not just drink 2 ounces of vodka instead of a glass of milk? With both having the same amount of calories. Of course, it is arguable that adults should not be drinking milk at all.
Obviously whole milk is better regardless, the best would be raw milk. But to his point it has the same amount of sugar but the fat in the whole milk will slow down the insulin response and slowly digest the sugar, se he’s right in a way.
Hey Layne, I'm from the netherlands. There its debated by a lot of tiktok health influencers that you should drink raw milk rather than pasteurized milk. Because the pasteurising process solidifies enzymes and proteins in the milk thus they become ineffective. According to them this is the reason people become lactose intolerant. Not really sure it is accurate. What do you think???
It's nonsense. Lactose intolerance is genetic, barring injuries that result in a reduction of lactase production in the small intestine. Pasteurization has no effect on the amount of protein in milk and the first thing that happens in your body when you consume protein is that the protein unfolds, or "denatures", in the stomach acid, making it easier for your body to break down and absorb the amino acids. Pasteurization also denatures the proteins (because that's what applying heat to protein does) but that happens in your stomach anyway so who cares? Your body does not absorb and use complete protein chains but they get broken down, that is why we speak of "essential amino acids" and not "essential protein chains". Our bodies synthesise the proteins we need from these amino acids (some of which we can also produce ourselves, the "non-essential" ones). On a sidenote, denaturization is the unfolding of the protein structure which is the opposite of "solidifying" so these influencers *could not possibly be more wrong*. As for "solidifying enzymes", I don't even know what that's supposed to refer to. Neither, I suspect, do they, because it doesn't mean anything without being specific. That statement is vague fear-mongering crap. These influencers have no idea what they are talking about and as a general rule, you should not listen to influencers. Not just on dietary advice, you should not listen to them, period. Not just on Tiktok, just nowhere. Ever. Listen to people who have actually studied the topics and cross-reference information from multiple *expert* sources to reach a conclusion. The vast majority of influencers are not experts and ought to be ignored.
Oh and to take the cake, you know what may cause injury to the small intestine? Infections. You know what increases the risk of intestinal infection? Drinking raw milk. Now I can't tell you that a raw milk infection specifically results in the kind of injury that would reduce lactase production but why on earth you'd even risk it without that exact knowledge when all research shows pasteurized milk drastically reduces infection risk, is beyond me. It's amazing how these influencers get everything the wrong way around since pretty much the exact opposite of what they advise, it more likely to give the results they espouse.
Dude, your question is what is wrong with society nowdays. Just think for yourself. Who is lactose intolerant? Take a map. It's people who didn't have ancestors that used milk as nutrition. So, when was pasteurising invented? Probably somewhere 18th century or 19th. So, you had lactose intolerant people way before that. They couldn't drink raw milk. You had lactose tolerant people also before that. They could drink raw milk. And later they could drink pasteurised milk. And we still do. Like, why do you need someone to answer that question for you? It's the problem with blindly following experts. Educate yourself to a point where you know that it is wrong.
@@Melesniannon To add to your answer. Denaturization makes the protein sometimes easier to digest because your digestive enzymes have an easier path to break it down to amino acids. It's one of the reasons that cooking food makes it sometimes more accessible to your digestive systems. So instead of getting 20% of the the nutrients, you'll get 40% from cooking the stuff. Obviously, doesn't work for all things. Don't cook Brocolli if you want Folic Acid :D
@@robertmusil1107 I mostly agree but interestingly enough, most of the water-soluable vitamins that are lost in the cooking process are lost to the water you're cooking in. If you consume that water (either by drinking it or by incorporating it into a larger dish) you still manage to absorb most of the "lost nutrients". But yeah, what you say is one of the reasons I prefer steaming my vegetables instead 'cause drinking the water you cooked broccoli in is...... not tasty.
He says not to drink milk at all but if you do drink milk get the full fat one. I dont think hes saying that one has more sugar than the other. I think hes saying that the low fat one has been stripped from its nutrients which makes it sugar water rather than milk
You are right but.... skim milk is just an awful, watery, tasteless nastiness, while whole milk is a creamy delight, the perfect base for the perfect cup of hot chocolate. Drink whole!
Even if I think whole milk is superior due to the fats contained that improve calcium and vitamin D absortion apart from having a certain protective effect as per available evidence, to use the classic fearmongering of sugar....bad.... when both have the same is ridiculous
No deep dive needed, they're both scams. If you want milk, drink milk. If drinking it raw or grass-fed makes you somehow think you'll be healthier for it, then have at it.
@@paulthomas5901 results in what context? studies measure specific things, not general pros and cons. Are you a referring to bioavailability of a specific nutrient?
Great job in pointing out the obvious, which Eddie did not refute in the clip you showed. Yes, skimmed and whole milk have similar sugar levels, but whole milk has the added benefit of providing more nutrients through its fat content. The fats in whole milk, such as omega-3 fatty acids, are crucial for overall health and enhance the absorption of vitamins, making whole milk a more nutrient-rich option than its skimmed counterparts. Be careful about spreading unfounded claims for clicks and instead focus on providing accurate information.
Pasture fed with 21.23% herbs, 51.26% legume and only 27.51% grass and it is good, any deviation from this and it is bad. Lol. In dairy grass should not be the primary food source.
@One-Ring-To-Rule-Them-All well I usually go with 1.5% cows milk, and go with fatty 3-4% plant/nuts milk. High extract almond milk is so much better than watery low calorie crap most people buy, and a great source of healthy fats
@@peejayfromhell My strategy has always been to use less but high quality and tasty. I think as well that it makes big difference in animal products (milk, eggs and meat) if you use good organic sources 😊
It's not worth giving up the taste for a few calories. You guys obsess over the small things while dumping chocolate and fried food inside you :D It's like the guys ordering 2 liters of diet coke and 4 Big Macs in McDonalds.
@@robertmusil1107 I have no idea what are you talking about. We were discussing milk. What is the connection to fried food and chocolate? Why are you making these assumptions? Remember when you judge other people you don't define them, you define yourself 🤷♀️
To be fair, skim milk also loses fat soluble vitamins. All that fat is vitamins is just replaced by water (and maybe synthetic vitamins). And did you notice the 8 oz serving of skim milk has like half the calories. The fat was replaced by water in that cup. So water makes up a much bigger percentage of skim milk than whole milk ...and sugar is a much bigger contributor to the calories in that skim milk. So Eddie is kind of right. Skim milk is a lot more like "sugar water" than whole milk
The point of the video was the fat within the milk is better than without. This guy just took eddies funny outlook on things that he displays on social media as a humor joke and turned it into a full blown criticism of which he tackles like a mad man. Eddie prioritizes high fats as one of his balances.
Not that I think it’s enough to even consider Eddies argument but….. Won’t he come back and say the labels you posted show that whole milk has less sugar?
What? Data scientist here. OBVIOUSLY the sugar content * PER CALORIE * of whole milk vs skimmed milk is NOT THE SAME. You take out the nutritious component, you are left with something less nutritious. EDDIE IS RIGHT
This is an inflammatory rant on eddie because you just dont like him. Eddie says nothing about the difference of sugar in either of the milks. He talks about the fat content, and Eddie's diet consists of high fats as one of his priorities. "I dont think we should be drinking milk myself" meaning in context as an 60-70 year old trying to not gain weight. He has a diet. This video is a rank completing neglecting any and all context and is just a rant.
@@Polar_Bear_Pete he said himself he doesn’t drink milk anyway in the video because of the sugar content by default. Understand context instead of making a wall of text
I have no idea who Eddie is, but what he is saying isn't totally wrong. Eddie is apparently British and British skimmed milk does have more sugar than British full fat milk (no idea what you Americans do to your milk) - its not a huge difference, but it is there. With the removal of that fat (some of which at least is healthy fat) what are you left with? Even more so if you are considering nutrition per drink. I mean, I haven't drank milk in 30 years, but still.....
4.6g vs 4.8g is statistically and physiologically insignificant. Those differences in no way make one sugar water. What's missing when you remove the fat? Fat and calories. That said, I normally drink full fat milk because I'm not looking to cut a lot of calories. All depends on what your macros look like with the rest of your food intake.
With the removal of fat you are left with nearly everything else that milk has, the only additional reduction is in vitamin A which full fat milk is kind of a bad source for anyway (at 3.6% per 100 ml of your daily recommended intake). Consider if that's worth an additional 2.1 grams of saturated fat per 100 ml (and some unsaturated which adds to the caloric difference).
I think you missed Eddie’s point. Eddie’s point was simple and not controversial. He is saying that you may as well buy the full fat , because in terms of sugar content they are both similar. I think the person who made this video(Lane) lacks intelligence and has gone barking up the wrong tree
And if it's lactose-free, it still has the same amount of sugar because the lactose is only broken down by the added lactase enzymes to glucose and galactose.
This channel is both dangerous, and stupid. Eddie is talking about how the body breaks down food. Both skimmed milk and full-fat milk contain lactose, a natural sugar, hence not being listed as an ingredient. The body breaks down lactose into glucose and galactose, which are then absorbed into the bloodstream. The fat content in full-fat milk slows down the digestion process. This slower digestion leads to a more gradual absorption of sugars. Whereas with the skimmed milk, because there is no fat, it is digested very quickly, so you absorb all the sugars fast spiking your blood sugar levels. Thats why he called it sugar water. *Edit. Quite worrying that this guy is a Dr
I think it's more normal to drink skimmed milk. Like you skim the cream off for its other uses. I mix butter 50 50 with olive oil for a spread, and use skim milk
Skim milk is gross- its dyed white with titanium dioxide because after its been pasteurized and "skimmed" its this unappetizing anemic pale/clear liquid- they have to make it look like milk again. Proper milk from grassfed cows is thick and has a yellow/orangeish tint to it from all the beta-carotene. Natural grassfed dairy is loaded in vitamin A, K, CLA, has different fat ratios (3-6-9), etc... Grassfed meat and milk products also don't require antibiotics because cows getting their natural gut microbiome from the soil are naturally resistant to pathogenic bacteria like e-coli, and h-pylori. Cows fed sterilized high carb diets of corn and soy don't have proper gut bacteria and require way higher use of pre-emptive antibiotic treatment. Additionally the natural fat soluble vitamins are stripped out when milk is skimmed - that is why its "fortified" with synthetic forms of vitamins that are less bioavailable. I used to get the most awful acid reflux if I consumed "factory" dairy products. If I consume grassfed Kefir, and grassfed sheep or goatsmilk cheeses I get zero heartburn and feel great.
So is whole milk, we put it in buckets, pasteurize it and then put it in cartons. We should all just go lie under cows and yank the udders ourselves, straight into our mouthes!
He's like the mario rios of food 😬 all honesty though he has something against supermarket meal deals 😂 guess on my break at work, despite getting over 15000 steps each day I'm at work I'll have to go to the park and eat grass, can't go wrong with that, right?
Perhaps - taking the argument at its most effective - he's saying that per calorie it's more sugar. 12g per 150 calories < 13g per 80 calories. So, if you equate calories, skim milk would have 26g of sugar - huge fan BTW. Love the content. :)
Not sure why it was 13g of sugar on the skim milk ingredience since the carb count was 12g. Must have been a typo. BTW, the serving size was the same for both. It's just that the whole milk had more SATURATED FAT and the skim milk had none. That's why there's a difference in the calorie count. Whole milk: 150 calories per serving; Skim milk, 80 calories per serving. Let's see, my calculator says that's a difference of 70 calories per serving. The lesson, imitating Dr. Layne's style: "If you're trying to lose weight Eddie, it's not the damned SUGAR bozo; it's the effing CALORIES. So, either drink skim milk or drink less of the whole milk, you effing clown with your brain dead clown followers." Not a perfect imitation, but maybe Eddie and his subscribers will get the message -- CALORIES IN CALORIES OUT.
How's that an effective argument?? It's some astounding mental gymnastics to claim that something is better because you reduce the total amount of calories through which the relative contribution of sugar to the caloric total goes up. Like the calories from the fat don't actually matter, or for that matter, that 2,2 grams of it is satuated vs the 0,1 grams in skimmed milk. It's kind of like saying, "This road A is safer because only 0,1% of people die in accidents than that road B there where 1% of people die in accidents". Never mind that that 1000 times more accidents occur on road A than on road B.
I didn’t say the argument was effective. I said taking the argument at its most effective. 26g of sugar in 150 calories is more sugar than 13g of sugar in 150 calories. Equating for calories, skim milk has more sugar per calorie. Yes, equating for volume, it doesn’t - as reflected on the nutritional label. I acknowledged the argument is weak and unpersuasive, but, for fun, tried to take his very bad argument and refine it into a somewhat bad argument. Trying to convince me the argument is a bad, is missing the point and focusing on where we already agree. I know it’s bad. I was trying to make it slightly less bad, for fun. And rather than join in on the fun, you’re double clicking on a point we already agree on and not realizing you’re doing it.
@@brandonholt1344 Well, sometimes intent doesn't come across very well in text. It has no tone. It also doesn't help that there's plenty people who make arguments like this without any attempt at humour but rather consider it a legitimate defense.
@@Melesniannon but Eddie's point is that the calories do matter. You need to eat a certain amount of calories per day for your energetic needs, and you want to minimise the proportion of those that is high glycemic index carbs. So, avoid skimmed milk.
I don’t understand this video at all, someone help me out please. From what I’ve seen, Eddie encourages people to eat real, non-processed whole foods. He recommends a lot of animal fat, which is great for hormone balance and overall health. Why is it so hard to understand that whole milk is healthier than skimmed milk? It’s obvious in my opinion
The point of the video eddie made was the fat within the milk is better than without. This guy just took eddies funny outlook on things that he displays on social media as a humor joke, and turned it into a full blown criticism of which he tackles like a mad man. Eddie prioritizes high fats as one of his balances. This guy has an ego bigger than an elephant.
So, this is actually true but let's put that in some actual scientific context. Incidentally on the food labels shown in the video, the skimmed milk lists 15% of the daily recommended intake in vitamin A at 150 mcg. Sadly it's not shown on the full fat milk label (which is odd, tbh). We'll get back to that in a bit. Fat-soluable vitamines are commonly known as "Vitamin A". The two vitamin A types in milk, are retinol and beta-carotene. Conveniently since active vitamin-A is synthesized in the body, the actual intake of vitamin A is referenced in labels in a convenient value, the active retinol equivalent. For skimmed milk this equivalent is 1 microgram, for full fat milk it is 36 microgram. Recommended daily values vary a bit but for the sake of argument let's look at what was provided on the label for the skimmed milk: 150 mcg or 15% of the daily recommended intake. This means that this is based on a recommendation of 1000 micograms of vitamin A. If we apply that value to the full fat value of 36 micrograms we find that 100 ml of this skimmed milk gives us 15% of our daily recommended value while full fat milk gives us 3.6%. This might not be an entirely honest comparison since we don't have the exact value from the full fat milk shown. We can conclude that this particular skimmed milk is probably fortified with vitamin A, which is why reading nutritonal labels of what you buy is important when you make your choice. Either way in terms of vitamin A consumption the fortified skimmed milk is a clear winner. What full fat milk also has, is 2.2 grams of saturated fat per 100 ml where skimmed milk has 0.1 gram per 100 ml. Now, let's ignore the fortified skimmed milk for a second and just consider how low 3.6% actually is. If you were to get all your vitamin A from milk, you'd need to drink nearly 2800 ml or 2.8 litres of milk per day. This'd also net you a little over 61 grams of saturated dietary fat. You probably wouldn't do this since you also get vitamin A from other sources, so let's look at dietary fat in full fat milk as a ratio to daily recommended dietary fat consumpion. The dietary guidelines in the US suggest no more than 10% of your daily caloric intake from saturated fat. Let's assume an intake of 2000 kcal per day, that means a maximum of 200 kcal from saturated fat. At 9 kcal per gram, that's 22.2 grams of saturated fat per day or about 1000 ml (aka 1 litre) of milk tops. Well that's not going to work, you couldn't reach your recommended vitamin A levels doing this. In short, the amount of fat you're consuming with full fat milk reaches its maximum faster than the amount of vitamin A you minimally need. That is kind of a bad investment, and that's before we even start talking caloric value and how that needs to fit in the rest of your diet. You're probably better off drinking fortified skimmed milk, or even nonfortified skimmed milk and getting your active retinol equivalents somewhere else. Like, carrots for example. Per 100 gram, an active retinol equivalent value of 694 micrograms, with only 0.1 grams of saturated fats and at only 33 kcal it's a total steal, being 19.2 times as effective in vitamin A consumption than full fat milk. Skimmed milk + 200 grams of carrots > full fat milk any day of the week.
@@nigeriansareamazing5555 I'm sorry that knowledge is lost on you and that you prefer simple but ultimately false assumptions because what you say, isn't even true in any context.
@@Melesniannon The point eddie was makinig is the fat is better than no fat. And he says himself he doesnt even drink it because of the sugar in the video. Eddie consumes types of cheese which is dairy, low in sugar, high in fat.
@@nigeriansareamazing5555 Which isn't a point, which you would've realized had you actually bothered to read my reaction for the much needed context to understand that. But you prefer simplicity and at all costs, to avoid reading and understanding, so you just whine about the length of the explanation. So again, what you state isn't true in any context, and whether or not Eddie eats cheese is completely irrelevant.
The point of the video eddie made was the fat within the milk is better than without. This guy just took eddies funny outlook on things that he displays on social media as a humor joke, and turned it into a full blown criticism of which he tackles like a mad man. Eddie prioritizes high fats as one of his balances. This guy has an ego bigger than an elephant. And with the name "studentoffitness" i reccomend you change that to idiotoffitness
There was this one study on whole vs skimmed milk on rats where they saw acne. And then there was this other study on insects. And another one on the lactose intolerant extra terrestials. All pointing to the fact that whole milk is better for you. - research on people like Eddie or Paul
“Eddie are you ok” “are you ok Eddie”
“You’ve been hit by a smooth clinical 😂
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😂😂😂
The accuracy and comedy of this is friggin fantastic
😂😂😂😂😂
Brilliant
Eddie's "wife" owns a meal prep business in London where you can also purchase Orange Juice, Hot Chocolate, and Full Sugar Coca-Cola... Just saying...
But it’s probably organic and also probably comes with a free detox tea right?
So it’s so much better that way. 🙃
@@MattLaneFitness Yh mate still struggling to find organic coke in my supermarket. I’ve left a complaint and awaiting feedback
@@MuradFitness 😂you let me know when they respond 🤣❤️💪🏽
@@MuradFitnesshow good would organic be though. Made with real coke and real cola
Yeah just say what you want about people without any evidence prior thats how you spread info.
Yeah the only reason i don't like skim milk is because the fat makes it taste better .. not because its worse for you. But a little fat can improve taste by a lot imo
yep i only have full fat
Mate what you sniffing? Green top is just watered down blue top
To be fair, is the point that full fat milk lowers the sugar absorption/spike as consumed with fat?
100% is mate
I am confused about Abbew's age. A site on the interweb gives his exact date of birth, 10/10/68, which would make him 55 years old today, that age is consistent with his pro debut in 1998, in the same video on Steroids referenced next, he also says he started training young. But in the video he did about a month ago about steroids, he claimed to be in his 60s (it is always suspicious when someone gives a wide range for their age). I suspect he is exaggerating his age to present himself as the super fit old guy for marketing purposes.
bro i thought he was in his 70s! I would love to see this guy even run 2 miles.
Ive lost 25 lbs in 2 months following Eddie's way. I have not counted 1 f'ing calorie. I havent been to the gym in this time. Its all about what foods I put in my body.
A lot of people who have gone this way have also reversed their Diabetes. You dont need science when they are thousands of people whose lives have improved significantly.
And ive tried all kinds of different weight loss methods for a decade. None were sustainable like Eddie's plan. Why? Because once i eat properly , I no longer crave unhealthy food. So you can be right all you want, however from my experience, I have tried variety of ways to reduce body weight, Fat Adaption through Eddie is the only that has worked wonders for me. Before you knock it, try it for 4-12 weeks and see how your body feels. If his plan messes you up, go back to "destroying" Eddie.
Your drink milk 🥛 part of weight loss
@@pierrefitch nope I don't drink milk at all. It bloats me if I touch that stuff. It's all about listening to my body. If it affects me negatively, I don't put it in my body. Eddie's plan is mostly about experimenting which foods work well with body and which don't. Easiest way is a cleanse of most toxic stuff.
@@pierrefitch Nope.
@@4hasnain good fats and protein diet can help you burn calories.
@@georgeton4991 that's right.
It’s impressive how much Eddies content grinds my gears.
He is the epitome of someone who speaks in clickbait and also does it with a moderate dose of rage behind it(“you shouldn’t eat dis fuckin shit cereal”).
He’s a “contrarian” and leverages the ignorance of the viewer using shame and extremism that’s backed with zero evidence.
HE IS TERRIBLE imo.
A lot of eddies advice aligns with Tim Spector and Zoe research
@@manpreetruprai6259 haven’t seen him cite a damn thing
Love your content man. keep it going, helps me out
@@SageVTX agreed Laynes content is so good!
I thought I was the only one. Everytime someone criticizes his videos, some fanboy/fangirl just says that they would rather listen to Eddie instead of them because he is in great shape and was a “pro-bodybuilder”, which i’m PRETTY SURE doesn’t invalidate someone’s point.
His whole “dont count calories” argument grinds my gears. I just hope that other VALID science-based fitness influencers call eddie out on his BS because there’s NO WAY there should be this much support for him.
I am actually allergic to milk. Which really sucks because its one of the best protein sources. Especially whey
wb a2 milk
Allergic to milk, or you lack the enzymes to break down lactose?
Yeah as above, are you just lactose intolerant? Cause whey isolate might work for you otherwise
@@jiasd123 lactose intolerance isn't really an allergy (it's an enzyme production deficiency of lactase), he's most likely referring to an actual immune response to the milk protein component in dairy where it only takes a very small amount to trigger an IgE mediated reaction.
I get awful heartburn and acid reflux from "factory" milk. Grassfed fermented dairy products like Kefir and goats or sheepsmilk cheeses cause zero issues for me and I make them a daily part of my diet now. There are some great grassfed sheepsmilk manchego and feta cheeses available- maybe try those.
I have no idea who this Eddie guy is, however I believe data suggests that whole milk produces greater satiety compared with skim milk. I've gone back and forth on whole vs skim vs 2% through my life. Right now I'm on the whole milk train. Tastes better, and the difference in my daily intake amounts to only a few grams of additional fat.
Fat is generally satiating for most people. I don't need the extra fat & have no problems with satiety myself so...🤷🏻♀️
@@DoggieFosters Right, but Dr. Norton suggested in his video that this Eddie person gave no justification for "sugar and fat water" vs "sugar water." To an uneducated viewer they may think there is no benefit, and to go with the skim milk. I also remember when I first started lifting, over 20 years ago, some people were doing extremely low fat diets thinking fat was bad. We've come a long way since then.
yes of course it gives greater satiety, not even a remarkable point given that it still has the fat content. It is food. Take the fat out and Eddie is right, you have something akin to sugar water.
@@squirrelpatrick3670 "Sugar water" with the majoriry of the high qualiry macro & micronutrients that whole milk does.
It's just silly to call it sugar water.
0:57 No buddy, you just can’t interpret what the guy is saying 😂 Eddie never says that the whole milk has less sugar or the fat free milk has more. He means that the fat free milk is deprived of the nutrients that come from the fat in whole milk, essentially leaving it with nothing but the sugar, which he’s referring to as “sugar water”. It’s not that difficult to understand… So, the rude/arrogant demeanour is what’s actually comedic 🤦♂️
Except they offer the same vitamin and mineral content also so yh, the only difference is the amount of fat
Except they offer the same vitamin and mineral content also so yh, the only difference is the amount of fat
you’re spewing absolute bullshit to defend Eddie, there’s no extra nutrients within the fat 😂😂😂
How does he rationalize that. Thats wild.
I’d imagine he justifies it with a “link in bio”
Revenue from clicks he gets. That's how.
Your assumption is that he or his subs think rational. Thinking rationally is something you only attain by education. These guys are stuck on an emotional level of thinking.
Everyone can open the camera and talk about nutrition nowadays, fearmongering all types of food at this point.
Im not sure but maybe he was just saying in a round about way that skimmed milk has had all of the other stuff removed and has just left you with sugar? 🤷🏻♂️ so its had all the good stuff taken out. I dont know the guys content at all but seems like a perfectly legitimate comparison, just worded poorly?
It is a perfectly legitimate point. I have no idea why this video was made
That's exactly what he saying. I think Eddie is kinda silly but he said he doesn't suggest drinking milk at all. The argument "How is whole milk not just sugar with fat, then?" Is exactly what I think Eddie was trying to say. That is, both are bad but at least one still has the fat. I feel like this video kind of dishonestly tried to twist it as if Eddie was endorsing one as having sugar and the other did not when I didn't hear that from Eddie at all.
Except that it is a wonderful source of protein, calcium and other vitamins. I’m all for healthy fats, but “all the good stuff” has not been removed and most people have plenty of fat in their diets. There’s nothing wrong with skim milk. I also have nothing against whole milk, but I prefer to drink skim milk and get my healthy fats elsewhere.
A little irrelevant, but I just want to say how it's weird that most of diet/nutrition world are usually anti-milk/dairy? Milk/dairy seems to be quite demonized often.
Milk consumption in the US is way down, and still declining, being replaced in part by all the motherless milks (plant). And yet the prices of whey protein continue to skyrocket. What is there a global shortage of cows? Me thinks we're being gouged for no real reason at all. I cut my consumption in half until prices come back to normal. If they don't, oh well, no loss. I'll just eat Greek yogurt.
It's an easy target, full of old arguments to regurgitate so they don't have to do any actual research. They can just repeat the same debunked nonsense people have been spouting for decades. Billions of people consume milk so it's a relevant subject, likely to gain a lot of traction and response, and it's a perfect example for people who are prone to the naturalistic fallacy.
Add the spectre of lactose intolerance and it has all the ingredients you need to start a little cult: easy access to the message, wide appeal, and a discernable fear of the alternative. Oh and you get to virtue-signal for the poor cows and be against the dairy industry to boot so you can throw in how good you are for the environment and how against animal abuse you are. Worship my anti-milkness!
A lot of people have bad reactions to dairy. Some suggest blood-type plays a role. I’m type B and dairy is my ‘crack.’ I have one type B friend who likes dairy as well. I have way more type O friends, and none like dairy because it meases with their gut. The only thing I do know is some people like and tolerate dairy more than others and lots of people don’t do well with dairy.
I also believe the FDA lists (pasteurized) dairy as the #1 food allergen - double check this if interested.
@@wellnesspathforme6236 People make up all kinds of explanations but there's no evidence that blood type plays a role of any kind in regards to dairy. Anecdotes really don't matter, I know people with blood type O who consume dairy frequently and I know people with type B who don't consume it, including one who is lactose intolerant.
The FDA does indeed recognize milk as one of the nine major food allergens. Just "milk", not "pasturized milk", not "processed milk", but "milk, overall". The law they got passed specifically references cowmilk but the allergies get triggered by any milk containing similar proteins.
The other eight are eggs, fish, Crustacean shellfish, tree nuts, peanuts, wheat, soybeans and sesame. That doesn't make milk or these other eight foods bad for people or unsuitable for consumption, it simply means that people who have specific allergies should avoid consuming these foods. You never see people marching against peanuts for some reason, or fish so why do it against milk?
You are just being rude. The fats helps lowering blood sugar spike, so in that sense the skim milk is bad, it is not how macros are supposed to be in natural food.
You're uneducated stop talking please
You are completely ignorant of nutrition
what about calories genius?
Eddie is allergic to science
You win the internet with this
Not true. Tim Spector also suggests drinking full fat milk
Or reading nutrition labels. Those folks boggle my mind. Do they really think people will just blindly believe whatever they say in some short and never double check actual information?
@@klocugh12 calalries on nutrition label is not accurate. It depends how the food is processed
@@manpreetruprai6259 irrelevant in context of full fat vs skimmed milk.
I clicked on this video because I saw Eddie’s name in the title.
I am fascinated that this channel has so many followers and so many fans when all this guy does is insult his followers and produces nothing but reaction content where he bashes other people.
The point of the video was the fat within the milk is better than without. This guy just took eddies funny outlook on things that he displays on social media as a humor joke and turned it into a full blown criticism of which he tackles like a mad man. Eddie prioritizes high fats as one of his balances. This has an ego bigger than an elephant
i’ve been followed the nutrition world for over a decade now, and I remember when i disliked Layne too but the more you learn you realise Layne knows his shit
If someone’s spreading misinformation, someone’s gotta clear it up
Forget cow milk , how do they milk almonds? 😂
If you think Eddie & Layne are both OK go for the semi-skimmed milk.
I've thought shit this before. I think it's because you need to drink more semi-skimmed milk to feel as full, it's not as nourishing or filling. Therefore you are consuming more sugar
Guessing that he advocates for whole milk since its more satiating. The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition found less risk of being overweight or obese to be associated with people who drank whole milk, and no such correlation with low fat dairy.
It also naturally contains more fat soluable vitamins.
The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition indicated that a group drinking whole milk had better vitamin d levels versus a group drinking low fat. They believed it was due to better bio availability in whole milk vs the fortified low fat milk.
Honestly Layne, this isn't the dunk you are pretending it is. You could have at least thrown out some studies to back your opinion here.
All he was refuting was the claim that skim milk was sugar water compared to whole milk. There wasn’t any other claim here that Layne had a problem with. Why don’t you talk about what the video says and not the narrative in your head?
@@andrewzach1921 Back at ya. Layne could have and should have talked about the real scientific differences. It would show that while this dude's claims were at best hyperbole and at worst, misinformation, there are real reasons to advocate for whole milk over skim or low fat.
Instead Layne acted as if this guy was to be taken at fave value and that his claims were ridiculous and there is nothing more to discuss about milk.
Layne was being lazy imo.
I used to love skim milk , then I tried raw A2 milk just feels more nutritious.. if your gonna compare milk have to back it up with research 🤯
@@PFirefly06 The video was about the sugar claims SPECIFICALLY! what part of that do you not get haha.
If Eddie made outrageous claims about the full nutrient profile then Dr. Norton would have addressed that... with studies!!!
Fact is, there was no need for studies as a simple comparison of nutrition labels refutes the claim from Eddie.
@@PFirefly06 Quite frankly people take these influencers at face value, so why exactly should Layne not do so when debunking the actual claims an influencer makes?
Regarding your actual points by the way, do you have a reference to that study? YT is finnicky with links so an ID or specific keywords to search for would be good. Also has the study been replicated?
Regarding the fat soluable vitamins in full fat milk, honestly it's 3.6% of your daily recommended intake. You'd exceed the daily recommended maximum for saturated fat long before you reached the minimum recommended value of daily vitamin A intake. You're better off eating a carrot if you want retinol.
Really weird, but the whole milk nutrition label you posted had 12g carbs and 12g sugar. The skim milk actually had 12g carbs and 13g sugar...
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So yeah, buy whole milk. Cheers Eddie.
Adding in Paul Saladino and Gary Brekka was genius 😂
You mean Paul Saladino who believed the Liver King was natural and not on massive amounts of Roids? But why rock the boat when your partnership with him is making you thousands of dollars a month from the supplement line due to his lies.
However, there is an obvious mutual respect between these two men and one is drawing attention to the other’s content in an act commercial brotherhood . Keep up the good work guys!
"Do you wanna tell him?...should I tell him?" 😂💀
Correct me if I'm wrong but anyway as far as I understood all kind of milks (full fat, 1%, 2%...) are made by adding back the appropriate amount of cream to skim milk and then homogenized so the fat doesn't separate. (Which also means unless you go with "true" whole milk straight from the cow, most "whole milk" we purchase is even more processed than skim milk)
no disrespect doctor i respect.your postion and knowledge
im currently 3 months in to eddies bulking diet ive lost my.belly fat look a lot sharper and better muscles more defined
and honestly i feel so much better
im not saying if hes right just giving my experience
My friend, I agree, you’ve seen progress.
But be careful, that’s how they get you, they mix in truth with their lies.
Find what is actually effective, and ditch the BS that serves no purpose.
P.S. props for being civil btw.
appreciate your response mate and yeah 4 months in so far so good but your right lot of crap out there can never be to careful 😉
be wary of anyone telling you not to consume dairy for health reasons, if you don't tolerate dairy, different story. if you tolerate dairy, it should be a part of your diet, skim or whole. you would have a difficult time finding a more nutrient dense food.
That's just utter bs :D
@@Larpake ha
Skim milk is gross- its dyed white with titanium dioxide because after its been pasteurized and "skimmed" its this unappetizing anemic pale/clear liquid- they have to make it look like milk again. Proper milk from grassfed cows is thick and has a yellow/orangeish tint to it from all the beta-carotene. Natural grassfed dairy is loaded in vitamin A, K, CLA, has different fat ratios (3-6-9), etc... Grassfed meat and milk products also don't require antibiotics because cows getting their natural gut microbiome from the soil are naturally resistant to pathogenic bacteria like e-coli, and h-pylori. Cows fed sterilized high carb diets of corn and soy don't have proper gut bacteria and require way higher use of pre-emptive antibiotic treatment. Additionally the natural fat soluble vitamins are stripped out when milk is skimmed - that is why its "fortified" with synthetic forms of vitamins that are less bioavailable. I used to get the most awful acid reflux if I consumed "factory" dairy products. If I consume grassfed Kefir, and grassfed sheep or goatsmilk cheeses I get zero heartburn and feel great.
I agree but I would add it is important that you get good quality milk. I buy only organic full fat milk from local farms 😉
@@One-Ring-To-Rule-Them-All milk from a local farm is definitely better, probably not any different than normal store bought milk health wise unless you live very far from a source. i live relatively close to one, big chain stores buy from the local farms, probably about the same stuff. if you have the financial and geographical means to go purchase milk directly from a farm that is the best thing for the planet and the economy, but i don't think we should be shaming people or gatekeeping health because not everyone is that lucky
The labels must be all linked to Big Milk, right? But…wait a minute…if it’s sugar water…why do they even bother filtering the fat…? Well, at least there’s no need to add sugar to your chocolate milk…
Skim milk is gross- its dyed white with titanium dioxide because after its been pasteurized and "skimmed" its this unappetizing anemic pale/clear liquid- they have to make it look like milk again. Proper milk from grassfed cows is thick and has a yellow/orangeish tint to it from all the beta-carotene. Natural grassfed dairy is loaded in vitamin A, K, CLA, has different fat ratios (3-6-9), etc... Grassfed meat and milk products also don't require antibiotics because cows getting their natural gut microbiome from the soil are naturally resistant to pathogenic bacteria like e-coli, and h-pylori. Cows fed sterilized high carb diets of corn and soy don't have proper gut bacteria and require way higher use of pre-emptive antibiotic treatment. Additionally the natural fat soluble vitamins are stripped out when milk is skimmed - that is why its "fortified" with synthetic forms of vitamins that are less bioavailable. I used to get the most awful acid reflux if I consumed "factory" dairy products. If I consume grassfed Kefir, and grassfed sheep or goatsmilk cheeses I get zero heartburn and feel great.
Whole milk is a whole food and will not raise your sugar like skim milk. When the fat has been removed then it causes the spike. I'm really surprised you don't know this!!!
This is like, why not just drink 2 ounces of vodka instead of a glass of milk? With both having the same amount of calories. Of course, it is arguable that adults should not be drinking milk at all.
The fat slows the absorption of the sugar. 😂😂😂
Yeah but milk by design is built for growth, fat included
to be fair to eddy here, full fat milk just tastes better
Is it just me or Layne's videos always seem to be low volume?
Yup, have to crank up the volume to hear him and then crank it down for the next video
Obviously whole milk is better regardless, the best would be raw milk.
But to his point it has the same amount of sugar but the fat in the whole milk will slow down the insulin response and slowly digest the sugar, se he’s right in a way.
It's my favourite time of the week again! 😅
Hey Layne, I'm from the netherlands. There its debated by a lot of tiktok health influencers that you should drink raw milk rather than pasteurized milk. Because the pasteurising process solidifies enzymes and proteins in the milk thus they become ineffective. According to them this is the reason people become lactose intolerant. Not really sure it is accurate. What do you think???
It's nonsense. Lactose intolerance is genetic, barring injuries that result in a reduction of lactase production in the small intestine. Pasteurization has no effect on the amount of protein in milk and the first thing that happens in your body when you consume protein is that the protein unfolds, or "denatures", in the stomach acid, making it easier for your body to break down and absorb the amino acids.
Pasteurization also denatures the proteins (because that's what applying heat to protein does) but that happens in your stomach anyway so who cares? Your body does not absorb and use complete protein chains but they get broken down, that is why we speak of "essential amino acids" and not "essential protein chains". Our bodies synthesise the proteins we need from these amino acids (some of which we can also produce ourselves, the "non-essential" ones).
On a sidenote, denaturization is the unfolding of the protein structure which is the opposite of "solidifying" so these influencers *could not possibly be more wrong*. As for "solidifying enzymes", I don't even know what that's supposed to refer to. Neither, I suspect, do they, because it doesn't mean anything without being specific. That statement is vague fear-mongering crap.
These influencers have no idea what they are talking about and as a general rule, you should not listen to influencers. Not just on dietary advice, you should not listen to them, period. Not just on Tiktok, just nowhere. Ever. Listen to people who have actually studied the topics and cross-reference information from multiple *expert* sources to reach a conclusion. The vast majority of influencers are not experts and ought to be ignored.
Oh and to take the cake, you know what may cause injury to the small intestine? Infections. You know what increases the risk of intestinal infection? Drinking raw milk. Now I can't tell you that a raw milk infection specifically results in the kind of injury that would reduce lactase production but why on earth you'd even risk it without that exact knowledge when all research shows pasteurized milk drastically reduces infection risk, is beyond me.
It's amazing how these influencers get everything the wrong way around since pretty much the exact opposite of what they advise, it more likely to give the results they espouse.
Dude, your question is what is wrong with society nowdays. Just think for yourself. Who is lactose intolerant? Take a map. It's people who didn't have ancestors that used milk as nutrition. So, when was pasteurising invented? Probably somewhere 18th century or 19th. So, you had lactose intolerant people way before that. They couldn't drink raw milk. You had lactose tolerant people also before that. They could drink raw milk. And later they could drink pasteurised milk. And we still do. Like, why do you need someone to answer that question for you? It's the problem with blindly following experts. Educate yourself to a point where you know that it is wrong.
@@Melesniannon To add to your answer. Denaturization makes the protein sometimes easier to digest because your digestive enzymes have an easier path to break it down to amino acids. It's one of the reasons that cooking food makes it sometimes more accessible to your digestive systems. So instead of getting 20% of the the nutrients, you'll get 40% from cooking the stuff. Obviously, doesn't work for all things. Don't cook Brocolli if you want Folic Acid :D
@@robertmusil1107 I mostly agree but interestingly enough, most of the water-soluable vitamins that are lost in the cooking process are lost to the water you're cooking in. If you consume that water (either by drinking it or by incorporating it into a larger dish) you still manage to absorb most of the "lost nutrients".
But yeah, what you say is one of the reasons I prefer steaming my vegetables instead 'cause drinking the water you cooked broccoli in is...... not tasty.
Why does the skim milk ingredients show 13 g of sugar when the carb count is only 12? Is it a typo?
It is the same sugar content but the whole milk(full fat) does buffer the sugar spike.
The word "just" is doing a lot of lifting. Skim milk is "just sugar water", as in "sugar water without the fat"
For the algorithm!
I was wondering how long it would take for Eddie to appear on here 😂
It’s scary how many followers he has and the influence he has 😮
Hes the best because its true
There are a lot of low IQ people. Actually, 100 is the average and you know how "intelligent" people with 100 are.
Why is it scary if what he says are facts! Wake the Eff Up!!!!
Mmmmm facts 🤔
He has a funny way in saying stuff, but if you follow his advice you'd be healthier. He is however wrong about sugar in milk. Do your own research
He says not to drink milk at all but if you do drink milk get the full fat one. I dont think hes saying that one has more sugar than the other. I think hes saying that the low fat one has been stripped from its nutrients which makes it sugar water rather than milk
It only removes the fat tho?
i drink full cream milk cause skim milk taste like shit . just account for the energy bruh
How do people not know that full fat is healthier then skimmed.Skimmed is overly processed
You are right but.... skim milk is just an awful, watery, tasteless nastiness, while whole milk is a creamy delight, the perfect base for the perfect cup of hot chocolate. Drink whole!
Agree 😂
Whole milk is gross.
I've been drinking skim milk for decades (I'm 60) and I find the fat in whole milk to be disgusting.
The gift that keeps on giving ….
Even if I think whole milk is superior due to the fats contained that improve calcium and vitamin D absortion apart from having a certain protective effect as per available evidence, to use the classic fearmongering of sugar....bad.... when both have the same is ridiculous
I got a picture in my head of Homer Simpson saying "Mmmm sugar and fat water..." and drooling... 😂🤤🖖🏻
I drink whole milk. Any reduced fat or skim milk give me the shits
Dr. Norton I love you so much. I also need you to get a microphone that can tolerate your volume better. All love Sir!
I would be really interested in seeing you do a deep dive into the pros and cons of raw milk and A2 milk.
why do you care about that at all
No deep dive needed, they're both scams. If you want milk, drink milk.
If drinking it raw or grass-fed makes you somehow think you'll be healthier for it, then have at it.
Raw milk is ok but A2 is just another marketing product. Instead of A2 drink goat or sheep milk if is available where you live
@@brennand933 because I'm curious if there are any good studies about either one, and what the results would show (good or bad).
@@paulthomas5901 results in what context? studies measure specific things, not general pros and cons. Are you a referring to bioavailability of a specific nutrient?
The less ingredients food has the better, whole foods are better than processed, low calorie food
Dr Layne literally doing gods work.
Great job in pointing out the obvious, which Eddie did not refute in the clip you showed. Yes, skimmed and whole milk have similar sugar levels, but whole milk has the added benefit of providing more nutrients through its fat content. The fats in whole milk, such as omega-3 fatty acids, are crucial for overall health and enhance the absorption of vitamins, making whole milk a more nutrient-rich option than its skimmed counterparts. Be careful about spreading unfounded claims for clicks and instead focus on providing accurate information.
lmao nice pseudo science
No they dont have the same sugar content. Semi skimmed is recored as having more sugar in than hole milk.
Well. If it is raw, organic grass fed drank from a hollowed out papaya it probably ok
Pasture fed with 21.23% herbs, 51.26% legume and only 27.51% grass and it is good, any deviation from this and it is bad. Lol. In dairy grass should not be the primary food source.
Have you looked at the LMHR study?
My grandfather was a B17 tail-gunner in ww2 and he passed away this week. RIP Corporal E.T. Flood and bless you for your service.
Did he have a milk preference?
@@SkylerKingTW I bet he drank whole milk, not that pussy sugar water skimmed milk!
I drink whole milk because it tastes better.
Its always the best to settle with something like 1.5% milk, almost no taste difference between 3.2% and HUGE difference from 0% one.
I use 3.9 % and it is amazing ❤
@One-Ring-To-Rule-Them-All well I usually go with 1.5% cows milk, and go with fatty 3-4% plant/nuts milk. High extract almond milk is so much better than watery low calorie crap most people buy, and a great source of healthy fats
@@peejayfromhell My strategy has always been to use less but high quality and tasty. I think as well that it makes big difference in animal products (milk, eggs and meat) if you use good organic sources 😊
It's not worth giving up the taste for a few calories. You guys obsess over the small things while dumping chocolate and fried food inside you :D It's like the guys ordering 2 liters of diet coke and 4 Big Macs in McDonalds.
@@robertmusil1107 I have no idea what are you talking about. We were discussing milk. What is the connection to fried food and chocolate? Why are you making these assumptions? Remember when you judge other people you don't define them, you define yourself 🤷♀️
Out of all the followers I have seen on TH-cam, Eddie's hardcore followers are up there for being among the most ignorant.
This is why i always wait for friday 😂
To be fair, skim milk also loses fat soluble vitamins. All that fat is vitamins is just replaced by water (and maybe synthetic vitamins). And did you notice the 8 oz serving of skim milk has like half the calories. The fat was replaced by water in that cup. So water makes up a much bigger percentage of skim milk than whole milk ...and sugar is a much bigger contributor to the calories in that skim milk. So Eddie is kind of right. Skim milk is a lot more like "sugar water" than whole milk
The point of the video was the fat within the milk is better than without. This guy just took eddies funny outlook on things that he displays on social media as a humor joke and turned it into a full blown criticism of which he tackles like a mad man. Eddie prioritizes high fats as one of his balances.
I don't think Americans understand that the UK has different ingredients to Americans food 😂😂
Never clicked a notification faster. MILK
The point of the video is the fat within the milk is better than without. This video is just a cherry picked 2 minute yapping session.
Reading is fundamental!
Not that I think it’s enough to even consider Eddies argument but…..
Won’t he come back and say the labels you posted show that whole milk has less sugar?
What? Data scientist here. OBVIOUSLY the sugar content * PER CALORIE * of whole milk vs skimmed milk is NOT THE SAME. You take out the nutritious component, you are left with something less nutritious. EDDIE IS RIGHT
This is an inflammatory rant on eddie because you just dont like him. Eddie says nothing about the difference of sugar in either of the milks. He talks about the fat content, and Eddie's diet consists of high fats as one of his priorities. "I dont think we should be drinking milk myself" meaning in context as an 60-70 year old trying to not gain weight. He has a diet. This video is a rank completing neglecting any and all context and is just a rant.
@@Polar_Bear_Pete he said himself he doesn’t drink milk anyway in the video because of the sugar content by default. Understand context instead of making a wall of text
I can't believe this, I didn't know it was possible to drink the wrong milk 😂😂😂
For Pete's sake people it's just milk
I think WTF is starting getting to you 😂 love the them but I think you get more and more upset by all the stupidity online
I have no idea who Eddie is, but what he is saying isn't totally wrong. Eddie is apparently British and British skimmed milk does have more sugar than British full fat milk (no idea what you Americans do to your milk) - its not a huge difference, but it is there. With the removal of that fat (some of which at least is healthy fat) what are you left with? Even more so if you are considering nutrition per drink.
I mean, I haven't drank milk in 30 years, but still.....
4.6g vs 4.8g is statistically and physiologically insignificant. Those differences in no way make one sugar water. What's missing when you remove the fat? Fat and calories. That said, I normally drink full fat milk because I'm not looking to cut a lot of calories. All depends on what your macros look like with the rest of your food intake.
With the removal of fat you are left with nearly everything else that milk has, the only additional reduction is in vitamin A which full fat milk is kind of a bad source for anyway (at 3.6% per 100 ml of your daily recommended intake). Consider if that's worth an additional 2.1 grams of saturated fat per 100 ml (and some unsaturated which adds to the caloric difference).
You HAVE to do this guy named "Yahki the awakening"
I think you missed Eddie’s point. Eddie’s point was simple and not controversial. He is saying that you may as well buy the full fat , because in terms of sugar content they are both similar. I think the person who made this video(Lane) lacks intelligence and has gone barking up the wrong tree
So semiskinmed milk is the middle ground then, right? Not too good but not too bad either... 😞
That’s literally his point , if you’re gonna get sugar water get the full fat one. He still doesn’t recommend it .
I sometimes get 2percent or almond milk it's easyer on my stomach than skim milk.
The whole point is animal fat is good for you!!!
Isnt lactose, which is found in milk, literally milk sugar? So unless your milk is lactose free, it will have sugar in it.
And if it's lactose-free, it still has the same amount of sugar because the lactose is only broken down by the added lactase enzymes to glucose and galactose.
This channel is both dangerous, and stupid. Eddie is talking about how the body breaks down food. Both skimmed milk and full-fat milk contain lactose, a natural sugar, hence not being listed as an ingredient. The body breaks down lactose into glucose and galactose, which are then absorbed into the bloodstream. The fat content in full-fat milk slows down the digestion process. This slower digestion leads to a more gradual absorption of sugars. Whereas with the skimmed milk, because there is no fat, it is digested very quickly, so you absorb all the sugars fast spiking your blood sugar levels. Thats why he called it sugar water. *Edit. Quite worrying that this guy is a Dr
I think it's more normal to drink skimmed milk. Like you skim the cream off for its other uses. I mix butter 50 50 with olive oil for a spread, and use skim milk
Skim milk is gross- its dyed white with titanium dioxide because after its been pasteurized and "skimmed" its this unappetizing anemic pale/clear liquid- they have to make it look like milk again. Proper milk from grassfed cows is thick and has a yellow/orangeish tint to it from all the beta-carotene. Natural grassfed dairy is loaded in vitamin A, K, CLA, has different fat ratios (3-6-9), etc... Grassfed meat and milk products also don't require antibiotics because cows getting their natural gut microbiome from the soil are naturally resistant to pathogenic bacteria like e-coli, and h-pylori. Cows fed sterilized high carb diets of corn and soy don't have proper gut bacteria and require way higher use of pre-emptive antibiotic treatment. Additionally the natural fat soluble vitamins are stripped out when milk is skimmed - that is why its "fortified" with synthetic forms of vitamins that are less bioavailable. I used to get the most awful acid reflux if I consumed "factory" dairy products. If I consume grassfed Kefir, and grassfed sheep or goatsmilk cheeses I get zero heartburn and feel great.
Expose that clown 😂
Dude, but skim milk is processed. That makes it automatically bad 😅
So is whole milk, we put it in buckets, pasteurize it and then put it in cartons. We should all just go lie under cows and yank the udders ourselves, straight into our mouthes!
Eddie is Kali Muscle in the future
He's like the mario rios of food 😬 all honesty though he has something against supermarket meal deals 😂 guess on my break at work, despite getting over 15000 steps each day I'm at work I'll have to go to the park and eat grass, can't go wrong with that, right?
Eddie is bringing a bad name to us Eddies
Perhaps - taking the argument at its most effective - he's saying that per calorie it's more sugar. 12g per 150 calories < 13g per 80 calories. So, if you equate calories, skim milk would have 26g of sugar - huge fan BTW. Love the content. :)
Not sure why it was 13g of sugar on the skim milk ingredience since the carb count was 12g. Must have been a typo. BTW, the serving size was the same for both. It's just that the whole milk had more SATURATED FAT and the skim milk had none. That's why there's a difference in the calorie count. Whole milk: 150 calories per serving; Skim milk, 80 calories per serving. Let's see, my calculator says that's a difference of 70 calories per serving. The lesson, imitating Dr. Layne's style: "If you're trying to lose weight Eddie, it's not the damned SUGAR bozo; it's the effing CALORIES. So, either drink skim milk or drink less of the whole milk, you effing clown with your brain dead clown followers." Not a perfect imitation, but maybe Eddie and his subscribers will get the message -- CALORIES IN CALORIES OUT.
How's that an effective argument?? It's some astounding mental gymnastics to claim that something is better because you reduce the total amount of calories through which the relative contribution of sugar to the caloric total goes up. Like the calories from the fat don't actually matter, or for that matter, that 2,2 grams of it is satuated vs the 0,1 grams in skimmed milk.
It's kind of like saying, "This road A is safer because only 0,1% of people die in accidents than that road B there where 1% of people die in accidents". Never mind that that 1000 times more accidents occur on road A than on road B.
I didn’t say the argument was effective. I said taking the argument at its most effective.
26g of sugar in 150 calories is more sugar than 13g of sugar in 150 calories. Equating for calories, skim milk has more sugar per calorie.
Yes, equating for volume, it doesn’t - as reflected on the nutritional label.
I acknowledged the argument is weak and unpersuasive, but, for fun, tried to take his very bad argument and refine it into a somewhat bad argument.
Trying to convince me the argument is a bad, is missing the point and focusing on where we already agree. I know it’s bad. I was trying to make it slightly less bad, for fun. And rather than join in on the fun, you’re double clicking on a point we already agree on and not realizing you’re doing it.
@@brandonholt1344 Well, sometimes intent doesn't come across very well in text. It has no tone. It also doesn't help that there's plenty people who make arguments like this without any attempt at humour but rather consider it a legitimate defense.
@@Melesniannon but Eddie's point is that the calories do matter. You need to eat a certain amount of calories per day for your energetic needs, and you want to minimise the proportion of those that is high glycemic index carbs. So, avoid skimmed milk.
Here for Al Gores Rhythm.
Your way of talking getting familiar to, oh you make me remember about Michael Greger of nutritionfact
But Eddies got more subs than you!? 🤧
ODB likes it raw, but that's beside the point.
I don’t understand this video at all, someone help me out please.
From what I’ve seen, Eddie encourages people to eat real, non-processed whole foods. He recommends a lot of animal fat, which is great for hormone balance and overall health.
Why is it so hard to understand that whole milk is healthier than skimmed milk? It’s obvious in my opinion
The point of the video eddie made was the fat within the milk is better than without. This guy just took eddies funny outlook on things that he displays on social media as a humor joke, and turned it into a full blown criticism of which he tackles like a mad man. Eddie prioritizes high fats as one of his balances. This guy has an ego bigger than an elephant.
Full fat milk has more fat soluble vitamins - better for your micronutrients
So, this is actually true but let's put that in some actual scientific context. Incidentally on the food labels shown in the video, the skimmed milk lists 15% of the daily recommended intake in vitamin A at 150 mcg. Sadly it's not shown on the full fat milk label (which is odd, tbh). We'll get back to that in a bit.
Fat-soluable vitamines are commonly known as "Vitamin A". The two vitamin A types in milk, are retinol and beta-carotene. Conveniently since active vitamin-A is synthesized in the body, the actual intake of vitamin A is referenced in labels in a convenient value, the active retinol equivalent. For skimmed milk this equivalent is 1 microgram, for full fat milk it is 36 microgram.
Recommended daily values vary a bit but for the sake of argument let's look at what was provided on the label for the skimmed milk: 150 mcg or 15% of the daily recommended intake. This means that this is based on a recommendation of 1000 micograms of vitamin A. If we apply that value to the full fat value of 36 micrograms we find that 100 ml of this skimmed milk gives us 15% of our daily recommended value while full fat milk gives us 3.6%.
This might not be an entirely honest comparison since we don't have the exact value from the full fat milk shown. We can conclude that this particular skimmed milk is probably fortified with vitamin A, which is why reading nutritonal labels of what you buy is important when you make your choice. Either way in terms of vitamin A consumption the fortified skimmed milk is a clear winner.
What full fat milk also has, is 2.2 grams of saturated fat per 100 ml where skimmed milk has 0.1 gram per 100 ml. Now, let's ignore the fortified skimmed milk for a second and just consider how low 3.6% actually is. If you were to get all your vitamin A from milk, you'd need to drink nearly 2800 ml or 2.8 litres of milk per day. This'd also net you a little over 61 grams of saturated dietary fat.
You probably wouldn't do this since you also get vitamin A from other sources, so let's look at dietary fat in full fat milk as a ratio to daily recommended dietary fat consumpion. The dietary guidelines in the US suggest no more than 10% of your daily caloric intake from saturated fat. Let's assume an intake of 2000 kcal per day, that means a maximum of 200 kcal from saturated fat. At 9 kcal per gram, that's 22.2 grams of saturated fat per day or about 1000 ml (aka 1 litre) of milk tops. Well that's not going to work, you couldn't reach your recommended vitamin A levels doing this.
In short, the amount of fat you're consuming with full fat milk reaches its maximum faster than the amount of vitamin A you minimally need. That is kind of a bad investment, and that's before we even start talking caloric value and how that needs to fit in the rest of your diet. You're probably better off drinking fortified skimmed milk, or even nonfortified skimmed milk and getting your active retinol equivalents somewhere else.
Like, carrots for example. Per 100 gram, an active retinol equivalent value of 694 micrograms, with only 0.1 grams of saturated fats and at only 33 kcal it's a total steal, being 19.2 times as effective in vitamin A consumption than full fat milk. Skimmed milk + 200 grams of carrots > full fat milk any day of the week.
@@Melesniannon a whole lot of yapping, not enough saying that the fat in the milk is better than milk without fat
@@nigeriansareamazing5555 I'm sorry that knowledge is lost on you and that you prefer simple but ultimately false assumptions because what you say, isn't even true in any context.
@@Melesniannon The point eddie was makinig is the fat is better than no fat. And he says himself he doesnt even drink it because of the sugar in the video. Eddie consumes types of cheese which is dairy, low in sugar, high in fat.
@@nigeriansareamazing5555 Which isn't a point, which you would've realized had you actually bothered to read my reaction for the much needed context to understand that.
But you prefer simplicity and at all costs, to avoid reading and understanding, so you just whine about the length of the explanation. So again, what you state isn't true in any context, and whether or not Eddie eats cheese is completely irrelevant.
Once again Eddie Abbew has no clue
The point of the video eddie made was the fat within the milk is better than without. This guy just took eddies funny outlook on things that he displays on social media as a humor joke, and turned it into a full blown criticism of which he tackles like a mad man. Eddie prioritizes high fats as one of his balances. This guy has an ego bigger than an elephant. And with the name "studentoffitness" i reccomend you change that to idiotoffitness
Oh, Eddie, It's not that the Milk is wrong it's the orifice with which you drink is wrong.
I just drink 2 cups of whole goats milk every day. I love the taste of goats dairy combined with the thickness of the full fat
We drinks RAWWWW!!
There was this one study on whole vs skimmed milk on rats where they saw acne. And then there was this other study on insects. And another one on the lactose intolerant extra terrestials. All pointing to the fact that whole milk is better for you.
- research on people like Eddie or Paul
Agreed . Zoe also suggests whole milk
@@manpreetruprai6259I would think it comes down to consume whole milk or consume skim milk, butter and/or cream. I know which one I prefer