@@EmptyMan000 That's nearly what Peter did during Ends of the Earth, he used his new anti-Sinister Six armor to track that grain of sand and isolate it from the rest of Sandman, then held it in a containment unit where he threatened to destroy it with acid unless Sandman told him more about the Six's plans.
@EmptyMan000 That's basically what Insomniac Spider-Man did to his Sandman. Trapped him in a small vial, put him in a backpack, and forgot about him on some random rooftop for months.
@@davidhong1934 He actually has a really weird weakness related to his spider powers. He has a bizarrely specific kryptonite in the form of the pesticide, ethyl chloride. Like kryptonite does to Superman, exposure to the toxin saps his amazing strength, and if exposed to enough of the compound for long enough, he will die.
I'd like to think that Spider-Man isn't actually concerned with Sandman's soul, or that he is worried about the theological implications of fighting him, but rather he's so used to fighting freaks with absurd powers that he's learned how to pick at their insecurities and make them flee in shame before a punch is thrown. And Iceman is playing along because he's a bro like that.
Makes sense, like this guy is buddies with a Norse god and a sorcerer, he ain't going to believe in monotheistic god, and his powers are the result of a scientific abomination with radiation and retroviruses or something.
Fun Fact: In the comics, Sandman actually became immortal after the human part of him died, so now he's just chilling as a beach and only occasionally shows back up whenever the Sinister Six is involved.
Is he? I've always thought he just gets a "layer of ice", but he still has all his organs and whatnot normal. Sandman, on the other hand, can literally dissolve into sand, which means he has to turn entirely to sand
@@robertolanzoneiceman is able to turn into nothing but ice as long as he’s alive, which does in fact mean he’s also made of water while being made out of ice.
@@robertolanzone at this "old school" point its just a layer yes, but at one point in the early 00s he had a 15 year arc where he power-leveled and went full ice. He had an existential crisis where he was afraid to reconstitute back into human form because he wasnt sure if a mortal wound would "heal", joined the water table and did a "I am everything and everywhere" thing, and came out of the closet. The writers were REALLY working the character lol.
@@redskared8093so only people with souls get cencored? You know that you can see the recent comments somebody made when you click on their profile picture in the same manner as trying to @ them in the comments right? It even shows the comments you made on the channel you're commenting on
I love how throughout all these videos, Spiderman has rarely ever thrown a punch. He doesn't need violence. He just gives his villians an existential crisis or bullies them.
It also burns when he pees. So he's living sand that can generate liquid. Heck Spiderman could even punch him to death just by not drying off his hands after washing them.
@bengsynthmusic As much of a weakness as it is to humans. His web may be merely useless but he should be able to swim 🏊♂️ instead of die. I seen spiders 🕷 walk on water 💧.
I love that Spider-Man is a hero who is light-hearted and quippy, but when confronted with Sandman he immediately constructs a metaphysical argument about his existence and tells him he’s going to hell even though the two of them have literally just met.
@@sirwannabeguy4886 A talented strategist can win a battle without fighting. But a wise strategist understands that their employer will think they have done nothing and fire them. Therefore, the wise and talented strategist will, instead, show that they can fight a battle, but ensure the war is never won, thus securing their employment.
I think the best example of that was the Dragon Ball Z one, when Freiza (the only other character who had the exact same plan as Vegeta) immediately raises the same questions as everyone else, and Vegeta just lost his shit haha
@@joemorgan2390 Iceman had been a full-blown ice elemental who can reconstitute himself from any moisture even if his physical body has been completely obliterated for awhile now, in the comics.
This reminds me of how Peter, in the Spider-Man PS4 universe, actually locked sandman in a tiny vial and stuffed him in one of his school bags, then proceeded to lose said bag for what seems to be YEARS. And Sandman was still there.
@@Spinnermist there's a vial with sand inside one of the backpack collectibles, and when you grab it the first time Peter says "I still don't know if opening this would set the Sandman free!" Now imagine that guy with the black suit on
Huh, that'd be an interesting thing in Spider-Man 2. Sandman gets free and he becomes the most deadpan sarcastic bastard in the game due to years of being locked away in a tiny vial and forgotten about.
All this does is remind me of the comic where Sandman is losing his ability to keep himself together and, in effect, is dying as a result. Spiderman takes him out of the hospital to a beach, has a heartfelt talk with him, and watches as he finally lets go, blown into the wind. It's a beautiful moment, really.
The biological and existential nature of fully transformable characters is worth thinking about. Applies to Hydroman as well. When you consider Plastic Man has survived being in pieces for thousands of years, it's actually scary.
Oh, oh man. Of all the cartoons to do it, Steven Universe ramps this idea up to 110, like with the shattering and cluster. Heavy spoilers, but basically Gems are immortal shapeshifters, right? But they can be permanently split into shards that are *all conscious*. They can be forcibly fused into genetic abominations of agonized fragments minds and bodies. And then they shattered and fused millions of them into a hive mind superweapon. Man, you send this idea back to WW2 Germany and they'll think it's too far.
Fun Fact: In current times, Sandman is no longer weak to water. He's been defeated by it several times, but he trained himself to adapt to it and can move his grains and manipulate the density to shed the water off. He also one shot Spider-Man in one comic by accident. In the zombies storyline, he thought Peter was a zombie and got so scared he used his powers in panic and accidentally caused Peter to ingest so much sand his organs popped out. Sandman is beyond OP and could do serious damage if he wanted to, but just wants to be left alone so he rarely uses his powers fully
There's also that more recent comic where Sandman from the future goes back to the past to take over the body of present day Sandman because the universe/Earth ended and yet Sandman was still alive, just floating through the nothingness for eternity.
I love that their interaction starts with wanting to fight to talking about the metaphysical essence of one's soul and what this implies to completely bullying and emotionally breaking Sandman
What's weird is, Sandman is technically one of the most powerful villains in Spiderman's rogues gallery. He's just lucky Sandman is only aiming to rob banks, when he could literally take over countries.
@@kinyutaka Spiderman: "Yes, Egypt the country, I didn't think you meant Egypt the amusement park. But why would they elect him." Iceman: "Hmm, poor explanation on my part. I meant he took it by force." Spiderman: "The powers that be have any luck reclaiming it?" Iceman: "They tried sending in jet powered fighter planes but he put up a barrier. They got torn apart like they were flying through sand paper." Spiderman: "... Yeah, I'm done." Iceman: "You're not going to liberate Egypt?" Spiderman: "Dude, that's gonna be us!"
This is really something to say but aren't all x-men mutants and other mutates including Spiderman an insult to God's creation too since God wanted to make people have normal lives and behaviors?
I will always love how Solid differentiates each version of Spider-Man with their voice (visuals too, but thats way more obvoius) rather than using a basic Spidey impression for all of them
The fact that Iceman, entirely made out of ice, is telling Sandman, entirely made of sand, that he’s soulless and going to Hell is the icing on the cake! 😂
so basically sandman is backwards ice man. iceman is a human who can take the form of ice but sandman is sand who can take the form of a human. Sandman’s whole plight is trying to become human again
Love that Spider-Man and Iceman worked out their differences after the “Crime Machine built into the Apartment” argument they had based on how he just went “Hey Iceman”.
He won't "melt", the sand he's made out of will get wet, he'll retain the water for a little while and drop to the ground, unable to move until he dries. It's the equivalent of getting so fat you can't move by yourself
I think the comics confirmed that there's like a single grain of sand that is the whole of sandman heart and soul and everything and the sand he controls to be himself are just whatever sand he's picked up. Also, trust me, that kind of sand based power is deadly. Do not underestimate him.
You know, there was once a point in comic cannon that proved he has a soul, and it could be isolated from the rest of his body. It's a single grain of sand that projects his consciousness to the rest of his body.
Well according to the wiki he has Soul Molecule which is said to originated Over the years, Spider-Man managed to discover that Sandman's consciousness is located in only one grain of sand, which has Marko's brain pattern and is responsible for commanding the other grains of sand what form to take. With the proper instruments, it can be induced to it different ideas which makes Marko change his form against his will. If that grain is separated from the another and isolated, Marko can't recover his mass.
Sandman and Hydro Man have a "Soul Molecule" that contains their consciousness when they enter their elemental state. so canonically Sand Man does have a soul
@majesticgothitelle1802 well, we got Hydro Man (water), Molten Man (fire), Sandman (earth), Cyclone (wind), and Electro (electricity) that are all Spider-Man villians.
@@The_Killah29 Out of all those enemies I haven't even heard of Cyclone and I used to collect Spider-Man comics. I do have a few issues with the other enemies. There's even that one where Sandman and Hydro Man combined. And I know it's not an element but there's even Swarm, the enemy made of bees.
@Gatorade69 So we have enough dudes who are made out of a thing that are Spider-Man's enemies that they could form their own Sinister Six. The Sinister Storm? Venom and Carnage are essentially evil sentient alien goop so could they be part of the Sinister Storm?
The fact they went after him so harshly and called him a soulless creature has me in stitches. Imma use that one day. “You fucking soulless creature.” 😂
@@RobinTheMetaGodWhile the existence of god is certainly dubious, from a modern perspective. That’s not really what the commentator was really getting at or advocating, rather the pretty universal and standard human inquiry and dialectic about the existence of supernatural entities. It’s funny albeit unsurprising to envision Parker as religious, though I mostly take this bit as him taking the monkeys paw just to fuck with Sandman. It’s disingenuous, and ironically immature, to associate anything related to god as a matter to simply grow up, like it or not, it’s a fair and important question to at least bring up or think about once that’s here to say. Jumping to such far-fetched conclusions, the mere mention of the supernatural equivocated as advocation for its existence is as dogmatic as any religion.
@@crookedhairlineman7763 it’s the same thing as innocent until proven guilty where it’s much harder to prove you didn’t do something than that you did. The burden of proof is therefore on the religious for positing a positive doctrine.
@@dreska255 The comments of mine are the same because they are copy and pasted to be used against an entire comment section. Grow up, stop being a child.
according to the start... their on the Washington bridge, he just covered the entire thing with sand. which is worse then a beach because its OVER water rather then next to it. nice of him to plant palm trees on it tho.
He actually has a brain/soul/smth in comics. In thousands of grans of sand in his body there is one which controls every other ones. In one fight, Spider-man marked that speck with radiation and managed to pull it out from Sandman, destroyng his body. And put that speck into a box and was done with it.
I'm convinced that when Spider-Man is feeling lazy or wants to stall, he'll just force whatever villian he is fighting into a bull session and pick apart their motives (or lack their of) and what makes them tick. It's amazing how it works out for em in the end at times. Also, Sandman has a special sand grain within him that has his consciousness/essence and what allows him to reform. As far as I know now due to some Marvel time travel mumbo jumbo and because comics, he is full on immortal. After having issues staying formed. I guess Sandman as a concept is someone not meant to keep it together for long.
consider, Kingpin crashed a poker night between heros, just to play poker. he bet a stupid amount of money, saying that he would do illegal shit with it if he won (which he was sure he would). He got beat by spider man, who took 20 bucks of it to buy flowers for MJ
Spiderman is well known for talkin' shit anyways, so yeah checks out. It's just that spiderman is also fighting while he does it so he can bully while he bullies.
The first half I wasn’t entirely set on the joke, but the ending with Spiderman in the water and the Ocarina of Time intro starting to play, I actually lost it. Probably one of the hardest I’ve laughed from your videos, and that’s saying something.
I had this thought where if Sandman got Fire powers, he could have the ability to shoot out glass seeing as melting sand down is a major part of what makes glass. Like imagine Sandman generating a tommy gun and shooting out glass bullet.
I wanna say the armor he got from the Wizard allowed him to do that, considering the main point of that suit was altering his sand in various ways to achieve effects that wouldn't be possible normally, though most involved various chemical compounds so I'm not sure if there was a heating/melting function.
@@captaincomic8678 If the suit allowed him to modify his composition without energy input then is probably viable to rearrange his stricture into glass without heat.
@@massgunner4152 Actually, come to think of it I distinctly remember an issue of Hulk back when Sandman was still wearing that suit, and he was forcibly turned to glass and couldn't shift back, so I'm guessing the suit didn't account for glass as one of its forms.
I love how there can be many layers to this, from how Spider Man canonically got messed over by Satan/demon, his name also being Peter (like Saint Peter), iceman essentially being entirely ice as well, and the fact that Sandman is most likely alive because of said soul.
To be fair, Iceman has a form made of flesh and blood he regularly shifts to. But also he was once melted down into water and reconstituted himself with his powers, so it's really up in the air what the hell his deal is. Mutants are weird like that.
@@spiderssssssssssssDude imagine if that's how he defeats villains, like by tricking them into drinking him and then just reconstitutes himself inside their body like how we all thought Antman was gonna fight Thanos I'd imagine being melted down and be drank would feel pretty good
I love how Spider-Man makes fun of him for being weak to water, completely disregarding the fact in every Spider-Man game (I’ve played), he could never swim
The juxtaposition of ICEman questioning if sandman has an immortal eternal soul because he's entirely composed of sand reminds me that Iceman actually does have a single cell nucleus which allows him to reconstitute provided it's not damaged and thus is OBVIOUS at least to Iceman that he retains his immortal soul
Literally those people that stand on street corners saying you'll go to hell if you don't repent (and probably threaten you tbh)vs the average person just trying to do anything but pay attention to them
That's always been his strategy. He relentlessly mocks his opponents until it pisses them off, then because it makes them sloppy, he gets an edge over them. He makes fun of the Green Goblin for being a man with a purse, he makes fun of Kingpin for being fat, he makes fun of Rhino for being stupid, he makes fun of Mysterio for his outfit and he makes fun of random criminals for being helpless against him.
Maybe sandman’s soul became so powerful that it could metaphysically control the sand particles with telekinesis. Sort of like how a ghost can levitate objects but extremely more intricately and focused.
You're not wrong, I guess? Flint's soul is essentially within a grain of sand. So technically speaking, Sandman is a sand ghost, manipulating sand to make himself look human
Oh man, so few things make me laugh out loud like this did. I love how he just wants to fight and keeps getting torn down about sand not having a soul.
Holy shit this is so funny when I started playing Spider-Man 2 my brother and I were laughing our asses off and constantly quoting this video. Thank you so much for making this dude 🤣
He can actually turn back and forth from human to snowman. Sandman, well he can just look the part. You punch Iceman in human form, it’s a fair fight(until he changes). You punch Sandman in his human looking form, it’s like punching a bag of sand, because he’s merely mimicking what he used to look like.
I can't get over, Spider-Man Just outright saying "you're going to hell dude" I don't know why but that just destroys me so much I can't stop laughing. He just completely zerosums sandmans entire existence. And then he starts in on the whole weakness. Being water which is just the icing on the cake.
1:09 *THIS RIGHT HERE!* Honestly, feels like every other comic now Spider-Man is fighting a supernatural or demonic enemy more than mutants or sci fi criminals. Nothing too wrong, but just saying. I think we’ve jumped the shark
For those who are wondering how this works in the comics, there is a single grain of sand within the mass of sand that houses his consciousness. And yes, if you remove that one grain the rest of the sand just goes back to normal. But good luck finding that one, it's like trying to find a grain of sand in a desert
Fun fact, apparently Sandman's consciousness is contained within one specific grain of sand, which is likely also where his soul would reside.
So basically you can put his soul in a jar and leave it there forever. That's fucked up.
@@EmptyMan000Glass is basically just sand.
So couldn't he become the jar?
@@EmptyMan000 That's nearly what Peter did during Ends of the Earth, he used his new anti-Sinister Six armor to track that grain of sand and isolate it from the rest of Sandman, then held it in a containment unit where he threatened to destroy it with acid unless Sandman told him more about the Six's plans.
@EmptyMan000 That's basically what Insomniac Spider-Man did to his Sandman. Trapped him in a small vial, put him in a backpack, and forgot about him on some random rooftop for months.
@@veemonjosh on the avenger's roof too, fun fact, lmao.
I love how Spiderman telling Sandman to take the fight seriously implies that he thinks Sandman actively made the choice to be weak to water.
To be fair, what are Spider-Man's weaknesses?
Can you just throw bug spray at him?
@@davidhong1934oh he has a simple weakness, simply give him the choice between a loved one and a large group of people. That’s worked multiple times.
@@supreme_king_obama1158True, but that's not superpower-related that'a character-related
@@BonWso.... his weakness is a gun?
@@davidhong1934 He actually has a really weird weakness related to his spider powers. He has a bizarrely specific kryptonite in the form of the pesticide, ethyl chloride.
Like kryptonite does to Superman, exposure to the toxin saps his amazing strength, and if exposed to enough of the compound for long enough, he will die.
Man, I genuinely feel bad for Sandman, it started as questions about how does his body functions and ended up like bullying. He can't catch a break
I hate it when that happens
Does he have sand poop?
Does he have sandy cheeks?
relatable
His weakness is water. What a stupid power, fricking soulless stack of sticks
(Joke)
I'd like to think that Spider-Man isn't actually concerned with Sandman's soul, or that he is worried about the theological implications of fighting him, but rather he's so used to fighting freaks with absurd powers that he's learned how to pick at their insecurities and make them flee in shame before a punch is thrown.
And Iceman is playing along because he's a bro like that.
fantastic headcanon
I mean... he's not allowed to let them go free. Not after what happened with Rhino...
Makes sense, like this guy is buddies with a Norse god and a sorcerer, he ain't going to believe in monotheistic god, and his powers are the result of a scientific abomination with radiation and retroviruses or something.
But that isn't the case
He straight up says he was about to fight him until he found out water was his weakness
Genuinely felt sorry for Sandman... Does Peter really think he can go to heaven after bullying him?
Last time I checked bullying ain't a sin
well his weakness is water so do you know what that would do to spiermans street cred?
he doesn't have a soul so it doesn't count as bullying
@@danielssss1342 It is
"You want forgiveness? Get Religion."
Fun Fact: In the comics, Sandman actually became immortal after the human part of him died, so now he's just chilling as a beach and only occasionally shows back up whenever the Sinister Six is involved.
Is he chilling out as a popular beach? Does he want to get stepped on?
@@jokuvaan5175He likes semi-naked people laying all over him.
@@jokuvaan5175kinky
@@-Axio-😂😂😂
@@jokuvaan5175 don't kink shame him
I like how Iceman, who's made if ice in exactly the same way Sandman's made of sand, fully agrees with Spiderman's questions and doubts.
Is he? I've always thought he just gets a "layer of ice", but he still has all his organs and whatnot normal. Sandman, on the other hand, can literally dissolve into sand, which means he has to turn entirely to sand
@@robertolanzoneiceman is able to turn into nothing but ice as long as he’s alive, which does in fact mean he’s also made of water while being made out of ice.
naw.. he cool 😎🥶😂
@@rosieroti4063 ha HA!
@@robertolanzone at this "old school" point its just a layer yes, but at one point in the early 00s he had a 15 year arc where he power-leveled and went full ice. He had an existential crisis where he was afraid to reconstitute back into human form because he wasnt sure if a mortal wound would "heal", joined the water table and did a "I am everything and everywhere" thing, and came out of the closet. The writers were REALLY working the character lol.
"Your weakness is fucking water?"
Gives "Wait, your weakness is... copper?" vibes
Good megamind reference. Love that movie. Shame there's never been a sequel. And there never will be.
@@michaelmcdoesntexist8350 Yes, so shameful that we'll never have a sequence. Just like we'll never have Toy Story five.
It's also in a similar boat to "Your weakness is the color yellow."
@@ChaplainPhantasm”Wait are you serious?”
@@michaelmcdoesntexist8350 I have bad news for you pal about a Megamind sequel
I love how Sandman doesn't get censored, but Spiderman does.
think of his street cred!
Well yeah, Pete can still go to heaven, Sandman has no soul so he can swear all he likes.
@@redskared8093so only people with souls get cencored? You know that you can see the recent comments somebody made when you click on their profile picture in the same manner as trying to @ them in the comments right? It even shows the comments you made on the channel you're commenting on
Once spiderman gets demonetized he can never go to heaven again
Gotta stay friendly neighborhood
The "Get me now" while Spiderman is chilling in water is what broke me 🤣
It sent man, i lost it at that point
The way he was teasing him made me remember Spiderman's from NYC. I love it
Had me dying
Bro🤣🤣🤣
I love how throughout all these videos, Spiderman has rarely ever thrown a punch. He doesn't need violence. He just gives his villians an existential crisis or bullies them.
Bully Maguire
Spider-Man: “I’m gonna put some water in your eyes.”
No wonder why Deadpool is so obsessed with him.
Just like the 90's cartoon
I don't see how that's his problem.
I like how sandman can cry, disproving the “made entirely of sand” thing
The tears did burn... Is he disolving himself when he cries?
@@Melody_Raventresswhere is he holding the terrors when he doesn't cry?
@@masscreationbroadcastsYou don't wanna go down that rabbit hole...
He probably made himself solid like concrete when he cries so he doesn't dissolve his face.
It also burns when he pees. So he's living sand that can generate liquid. Heck Spiderman could even punch him to death just by not drying off his hands after washing them.
Him being in water like “get me now sandman”
Absolutely sent me
Despite being an “insta-kill” for Spider-Man in the video game my daughter used to play 20 years ago. Ironic.
That was so f*ckin uncalled for! 🤣
@@Roboprogs
That's the flaw in that game 🎮. If they're going to use the GTA method of the game then at least use San Andreas where he can swim 🏊♂️.
Isn't water one of his weaknesses?
@bengsynthmusic
As much of a weakness as it is to humans. His web may be merely useless but he should be able to swim 🏊♂️ instead of die. I seen spiders 🕷 walk on water 💧.
“The tears, they burn” was absolutely hilarious.
I didn't even notice that😂
Key & Peele "Insult comic" has an identical line.
I love that Spider-Man is a hero who is light-hearted and quippy, but when confronted with Sandman he immediately constructs a metaphysical argument about his existence and tells him he’s going to hell even though the two of them have literally just met.
I don't know about you guys but I'm starting to suspect that the Solid jj universe Spider-Man might just be a bit of a jerk!
@@shan4680 Well, he's a freelance web developer so... I figured that was just assumed.
The mark of a good strategist is to subdue the enemy without fighting
@@sirwannabeguy4886 A talented strategist can win a battle without fighting. But a wise strategist understands that their employer will think they have done nothing and fire them. Therefore, the wise and talented strategist will, instead, show that they can fight a battle, but ensure the war is never won, thus securing their employment.
@@sirwannabeguy4886 This, he defeated Flint without ever lifting a finger.
"I don't like sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere."
- Spiderman, apparently
You saying apparently is funnier than probably
He actually does say that in Shattered Dimensions
The gag where someone else shows up just as the joke is starting to get stale and immediately asks the same question never gets old.
I think the best example of that was the Dragon Ball Z one, when Freiza (the only other character who had the exact same plan as Vegeta) immediately raises the same questions as everyone else, and Vegeta just lost his shit haha
"Do you have a receipt?"
@@marvelsandals4228abridged or canon?
@@lavellelee5734On Solid JJ other video about "Implication of Immortality" or something
very contradicting and confusing dialogue @1EthanCC
I love the implicit joke behind getting Iceman to make fun of Sandman.
And the very good joke of getting a frame of Spider-Man in the water.
I mean to be fair, Iceman is just covered in ice rather than being made of it
@@joemorgan2390ah that’s why. i was wondering why nobody else pointed out that iceman was making fun of sandman lmfao
@@joemorgan2390 Iceman had been a full-blown ice elemental who can reconstitute himself from any moisture even if his physical body has been completely obliterated for awhile now, in the comics.
@@joemorgan2390 Iceman can totally become full-on ice.
@@joemorgan2390 not anymore
This reminds me of how Peter, in the Spider-Man PS4 universe, actually locked sandman in a tiny vial and stuffed him in one of his school bags, then proceeded to lose said bag for what seems to be YEARS.
And Sandman was still there.
wait Spiderman did WHAT?
That’s Punisher or Green Goblin level stuff
@@Spinnermist there's a vial with sand inside one of the backpack collectibles, and when you grab it the first time Peter says "I still don't know if opening this would set the Sandman free!"
Now imagine that guy with the black suit on
I'd at least put the vial in front of a TV or something every now and then
Damn at that point I think he ether accidentally killed him or made him go completely insane lol
Huh, that'd be an interesting thing in Spider-Man 2. Sandman gets free and he becomes the most deadpan sarcastic bastard in the game due to years of being locked away in a tiny vial and forgotten about.
All this does is remind me of the comic where Sandman is losing his ability to keep himself together and, in effect, is dying as a result. Spiderman takes him out of the hospital to a beach, has a heartfelt talk with him, and watches as he finally lets go, blown into the wind. It's a beautiful moment, really.
I love the idea of Sandman’s tears hurting him. He just doesn’t get any breaks.
I'd imagine it's the equivalent of having sand in his eyes
The tears! They burn!
@@dreska255 Spidy: I'm gonna put water in your eyes.
“Gonna cry?” -Bully Maguire
Wait... wouldn't the tears be sand? ?!... NVM i aint.dealing with this.
The biological and existential nature of fully transformable characters is worth thinking about. Applies to Hydroman as well. When you consider Plastic Man has survived being in pieces for thousands of years, it's actually scary.
Oh, oh man. Of all the cartoons to do it, Steven Universe ramps this idea up to 110, like with the shattering and cluster. Heavy spoilers, but basically Gems are immortal shapeshifters, right? But they can be permanently split into shards that are *all conscious*. They can be forcibly fused into genetic abominations of agonized fragments minds and bodies.
And then they shattered and fused millions of them into a hive mind superweapon.
Man, you send this idea back to WW2 Germany and they'll think it's too far.
@@farhan5647you are a dork
@@farhan5647"acthuale it's not real and it's never been real 🤓"
@@farhan5647 dumbass, the best part IS thithinking ut it!
@@farhan5647 me when i neglect my ability to imagine
Fun Fact: In current times, Sandman is no longer weak to water. He's been defeated by it several times, but he trained himself to adapt to it and can move his grains and manipulate the density to shed the water off. He also one shot Spider-Man in one comic by accident. In the zombies storyline, he thought Peter was a zombie and got so scared he used his powers in panic and accidentally caused Peter to ingest so much sand his organs popped out. Sandman is beyond OP and could do serious damage if he wanted to, but just wants to be left alone so he rarely uses his powers fully
God, that comic panel where he stuffs Spiderman with sand is seriously fricking disgusting/nightmare scarring.
I thought he purposely tried to kill zombie spiderman but ended up killing the wrong spiderman
There's also that more recent comic where Sandman from the future goes back to the past to take over the body of present day Sandman because the universe/Earth ended and yet Sandman was still alive, just floating through the nothingness for eternity.
But he doesn't have a soul?
@@revearain7692his soul is contained in one specific grain of sand
I love that their interaction starts with wanting to fight to talking about the metaphysical essence of one's soul and what this implies to completely bullying and emotionally breaking Sandman
What's weird is, Sandman is technically one of the most powerful villains in Spiderman's rogues gallery. He's just lucky Sandman is only aiming to rob banks, when he could literally take over countries.
I feel like Spidey would just quit if he was told Sandman had taken over Egypt
Spider-Man: What do you mean, he took over Egypt? Why would they elect him?
Iceman: No, I mean he took over all the land of Egypt. Dude's huge now
@@kinyutakalmfao a giant sand man of 50000ft tall
@@kinyutaka Spiderman: "Yes, Egypt the country, I didn't think you meant Egypt the amusement park. But why would they elect him."
Iceman: "Hmm, poor explanation on my part. I meant he took it by force."
Spiderman: "The powers that be have any luck reclaiming it?"
Iceman: "They tried sending in jet powered fighter planes but he put up a barrier. They got torn apart like they were flying through sand paper."
Spiderman: "... Yeah, I'm done."
Iceman: "You're not going to liberate Egypt?"
Spiderman: "Dude, that's gonna be us!"
sand man take over country.... alabasta
"The tears they burn" is the best ending and the best line!😂
Curious, considering his tears should also be made of sand.
This is really something to say but aren't all x-men mutants and other mutates including Spiderman an insult to God's creation too since God wanted to make people have normal lives and behaviors?
I’m still looking for the song that plays around the end
@@reaux1560 i think it's the title theme from ocarina of time
I will always love how Solid differentiates each version of Spider-Man with their voice (visuals too, but thats way more obvoius) rather than using a basic Spidey impression for all of them
ice is cooler get it hehehe
I like it too, lie he makes it clear that every Spiderman is a different one, which fits since everyone is from a different cartoon
I don’t mean this in a genuinely cruel way, but referring to Solid JJ as just “Solid” is deeply cursed.
I do like how he makes them different through the replicating the audio effects of the era the show was made
2:27 “Hey sandman! Get me now pssy!” That was brutal 💀💀💀
I like how Peter is so confused by a guy made of sand but the guy made of ice is just totally normal
Ice is cool literally.
At the end of the day though he's still Flesh and Blood, or can turn back into it anyway lol Sandy can't
@@GothamKnight-hsw4vx526430 Yeah true I just like that he doesn't question it at all. Just like "yeah his whole body freezes so what"
Religious hypocrisy at its finest.
@@Rofflestomper nah ice man is cool that's all.
"You fight demons every month but sand is where you draw the line?"
Ahh, brilliant
Looks like he draw the line... In the sand
Well of course, it’s rough, course, and irritating, and it gets everywhere
To be fair demons aren't godless creations...
The fact that Iceman, entirely made out of ice, is telling Sandman, entirely made of sand, that he’s soulless and going to Hell is the icing on the cake! 😂
I mean, if Sandman no longer has a soul, then he can't go to Hell because his soul has already gone to the next world to be judged.
So he is basically a zombie made of sand
And iceman is gay so he goes to hell
so basically sandman is backwards ice man. iceman is a human who can take the form of ice but sandman is sand who can take the form of a human. Sandman’s whole plight is trying to become human again
@@gaminglord3052 Who said it was unintended…? 😜
Love that Spider-Man and Iceman worked out their differences after the “Crime Machine built into the Apartment” argument they had based on how he just went “Hey Iceman”.
"I only have so much time before is starts raining"
I never thought about how if it rains, Sandman'll probably just melt like the wicked witch lmao.
@@LTNetjakBut sand can't contain too much water or they'll fall to peices
I mean Clayface got a similar problem
He won't "melt", the sand he's made out of will get wet, he'll retain the water for a little while and drop to the ground, unable to move until he dries. It's the equivalent of getting so fat you can't move by yourself
Happens in Toby Maguire Spider-Man 3 but he turns into mud
@@pinkdaveandchaps3697clay at least has some water tolerance. It gets wet and it just becomes more mailable clay.
I think the comics confirmed that there's like a single grain of sand that is the whole of sandman heart and soul and everything and the sand he controls to be himself are just whatever sand he's picked up.
Also, trust me, that kind of sand based power is deadly. Do not underestimate him.
Wow, simultaneously the easiest and hardest foe to contain.
Didnt Sandman once become like a mindless planet sized monstrosity?
He killed zombie-spider that was using his veins instead of web so yeah. Probably one of the deadliest
It can be deadly to his chances to go to heaven, for sure.
@@Nobody-hw6jvwrong he THOUGHT it was zombie spidey but it was the spider-man from his universe and he filled out his body with sand
You know, there was once a point in comic cannon that proved he has a soul, and it could be isolated from the rest of his body. It's a single grain of sand that projects his consciousness to the rest of his body.
Then he was trapped inside a vial forever basically
Wait, so he's like a slime slug? A 'nucleus' that calls forth the rest to form a thing?
So... we can actually quantify a human soul? Fullmetal Alchemist fans, get on this!
@@thecatladytm7172 We already know the value of a soul in Fullmetal. It costs an arm and leg.
@@PlanetHouston damn u right XD
Well according to the wiki he has Soul Molecule which is said to originated Over the years, Spider-Man managed to discover that Sandman's consciousness is located in only one grain of sand, which has Marko's brain pattern and is responsible for commanding the other grains of sand what form to take. With the proper instruments, it can be induced to it different ideas which makes Marko change his form against his will. If that grain is separated from the another and isolated, Marko can't recover his mass.
Did you make this up or is this an actual thing in the comics? If you made it up, it's funny! 👍
@-0rbital- nope, that's a comic book fact for you.
...that's kinda messed up
Imagine if they took that grain and just put it in a jar...
@valiang8867 I mean, you'd have to find a single grain in a human sized sand collective conscious, so I don't think he's in that much danger .
@@CletusLCassidyno spiderman literally did that
Sandman and Hydro Man have a "Soul Molecule" that contains their consciousness when they enter their elemental state. so canonically Sand Man does have a soul
Too sad we don't have pyroman and windman to have the elemental four. Add electric then a perfect elemental 5
@majesticgothitelle1802 well, we got Hydro Man (water), Molten Man (fire), Sandman (earth), Cyclone (wind), and Electro (electricity) that are all Spider-Man villians.
@@The_Killah29 Out of all those enemies I haven't even heard of Cyclone and I used to collect Spider-Man comics. I do have a few issues with the other enemies. There's even that one where Sandman and Hydro Man combined.
And I know it's not an element but there's even Swarm, the enemy made of bees.
@@Gatorade69 "AAAAAHHH! NOT THE BEES!"
@Gatorade69 So we have enough dudes who are made out of a thing that are Spider-Man's enemies that they could form their own Sinister Six.
The Sinister Storm?
Venom and Carnage are essentially evil sentient alien goop so could they be part of the Sinister Storm?
The fact they went after him so harshly and called him a soulless creature has me in stitches. Imma use that one day. “You fucking soulless creature.” 😂
The buildup is what made it so effective
i do it every day to my ginger friends.
Love how Solid jj can turn any thought provoking subject into a meme.
And it works so well❤
@@RobinTheMetaGodWhile the existence of god is certainly dubious, from a modern perspective. That’s not really what the commentator was really getting at or advocating, rather the pretty universal and standard human inquiry and dialectic about the existence of supernatural entities. It’s funny albeit unsurprising to envision Parker as religious, though I mostly take this bit as him taking the monkeys paw just to fuck with Sandman. It’s disingenuous, and ironically immature, to associate anything related to god as a matter to simply grow up, like it or not, it’s a fair and important question to at least bring up or think about once that’s here to say. Jumping to such far-fetched conclusions, the mere mention of the supernatural equivocated as advocation for its existence is as dogmatic as any religion.
@@RobinTheMetaGodprove it
It's a bot, I saw the same account reply to several comments with the exact same thing
@@crookedhairlineman7763 it’s the same thing as innocent until proven guilty where it’s much harder to prove you didn’t do something than that you did. The burden of proof is therefore on the religious for positing a positive doctrine.
@@dreska255
The comments of mine are the same because they are copy and pasted to be used against an entire comment section.
Grow up, stop being a child.
Headline: SPIDERMAN CAUSES MENTAL BREAKDOWNS
You know Jonah James Jameson's gonna want that on the front page.
Definitely the only Daily Bugle headline that would make perfect sense.
Definitely the only Daily Bugle headline that would make perfect sense.
“Tears, they burn”
He truly is an godless creation😂
Well, his weakness is water, what else would the tears feel like?
@@MyVanir Sand.
The fact that they’re on a beach and then he says his weekness was water was honestly a death sentence
according to the start... their on the Washington bridge, he just covered the entire thing with sand. which is worse then a beach because its OVER water rather then next to it. nice of him to plant palm trees on it tho.
He actually has a brain/soul/smth in comics. In thousands of grans of sand in his body there is one which controls every other ones. In one fight, Spider-man marked that speck with radiation and managed to pull it out from Sandman, destroyng his body. And put that speck into a box and was done with it.
Wow. What a power move. Toss it in your closet and forget about it.
Better than the time Spiderman beat Sandman with a vacuum cleaner
That's horrifying.
Now all I can think about is Sandman encountering the SCP Foundation and they just shove him in a box and call it a day.
_who wants_
_to live_
_FOREVEEEEER!!!_
"Water and I don't mix"
Well actually, you do mix. That's the problem.
Asking him if his brain is made of sand actually sounds like the kind of question the real Spider-Man would ask him. 😹😹😹
What do you mean "real Spider-Man"? This is the real Spider-Man. Everything on this channel is canon.
I'm convinced that when Spider-Man is feeling lazy or wants to stall, he'll just force whatever villian he is fighting into a bull session and pick apart their motives (or lack their of) and what makes them tick. It's amazing how it works out for em in the end at times.
Also, Sandman has a special sand grain within him that has his consciousness/essence and what allows him to reform. As far as I know now due to some Marvel time travel mumbo jumbo and because comics, he is full on immortal. After having issues staying formed. I guess Sandman as a concept is someone not meant to keep it together for long.
consider, Kingpin crashed a poker night between heros, just to play poker. he bet a stupid amount of money, saying that he would do illegal shit with it if he won (which he was sure he would). He got beat by spider man, who took 20 bucks of it to buy flowers for MJ
@@charnor2727tf does this have to do with anything
Spiderman is well known for talkin' shit anyways, so yeah checks out. It's just that spiderman is also fighting while he does it so he can bully while he bullies.
I like the line "but sand is where you draw the line?"
Like drawing a line in the sand? Good stuff.
Sandman: “My entire body is made of sand!”
Spider-Man: “…but have you considered the implications?”
Sandman not once asking how he lives post-powers for over a month is hilarious
The first half I wasn’t entirely set on the joke, but the ending with Spiderman in the water and the Ocarina of Time intro starting to play, I actually lost it. Probably one of the hardest I’ve laughed from your videos, and that’s saying something.
Spiderman jumping into the ocean for a single frame just to taunt sandman was peak comedy
I've seen vids from others who have tried to copy Solid JJ's style and they all fail in comparison. This is another classic.
I had this thought where if Sandman got Fire powers, he could have the ability to shoot out glass seeing as melting sand down is a major part of what makes glass. Like imagine Sandman generating a tommy gun and shooting out glass bullet.
Sandman was turned into glass by Otto several times. He couldn't move at first, but eventually managed to break himself into pieces and cut Otto
I wanna say the armor he got from the Wizard allowed him to do that, considering the main point of that suit was altering his sand in various ways to achieve effects that wouldn't be possible normally, though most involved various chemical compounds so I'm not sure if there was a heating/melting function.
@@captaincomic8678 If the suit allowed him to modify his composition without energy input then is probably viable to rearrange his stricture into glass without heat.
@@massgunner4152 Actually, come to think of it I distinctly remember an issue of Hulk back when Sandman was still wearing that suit, and he was forcibly turned to glass and couldn't shift back, so I'm guessing the suit didn't account for glass as one of its forms.
In Spiderman 3, Harry's hoverboard does solidify a little bit of Sandman
"the sand is where you draw the line" very subtle, i love it
I love how there can be many layers to this, from how Spider Man canonically got messed over by Satan/demon, his name also being Peter (like Saint Peter), iceman essentially being entirely ice as well, and the fact that Sandman is most likely alive because of said soul.
“The tears they burn!” from Sandman at the end was brilliant. 😂
Kept half-expecting Sandman to turn the tables on them by pointing out Pete’s spider powers and Iceman’s ice powers 🤣
I mean it's not like he can practice his arguments in the shower like the rest of us...
@@d2cuadrados510Big oof
The fact that spidey doesnt question icemans soul despite him being made of SEE THEOUGH ICE, VERY CLEARLY NOT HAVING ORGANS OR SOUL OR WHATEVER
To be fair, Iceman has a form made of flesh and blood he regularly shifts to. But also he was once melted down into water and reconstituted himself with his powers, so it's really up in the air what the hell his deal is. Mutants are weird like that.
@@spiderssssssssssssaaaah
@@spiderssssssssssssDude imagine if that's how he defeats villains, like by tricking them into drinking him and then just reconstitutes himself inside their body like how we all thought Antman was gonna fight Thanos
I'd imagine being melted down and be drank would feel pretty good
@@dreska255 "What did you do to my drink?!"
@@dreska255bro just came up with a new vore fetish
I love how Spider-Man makes fun of him for being weak to water, completely disregarding the fact in every Spider-Man game (I’ve played), he could never swim
"The tears they burn!" that one broke me 🤣
ironically it’s sandman who seems to have more of a soul than the others
2:03
That was the coldest solid jj spider- man f bomb I've ever heard, that was from the deepest part of his soul😂😂😂
The fact sandman's tears are made of water brings everything into question. Water is the essence of a soul, so he must have one!
2:26 is a perfect standalone meme
You mean a perfect "sand alone" meme.
Spider-Man: "You're soulless and weak to water!"
Sandman: "You let your uncle die."
Spider-Man: *sobbing*
Carnage: "Your mother hung herself."
Sandman was the one that shot him
@@talkingben3332 That's only in the Raimi movies.
@@TheAzulmagia True
@@talkingben3332and it was a accident
1:31 this is dead ass hilarious.
You never fail to make me laugh solid jj.
2:34 "The tears they burn"
Wait,. so, his body is made of sand, but his tear are water?
How does THAT work?
Are your tears made of meat?
@@sansplayer6254 No, but neither is my blood.
Guess what, now YOU are mad of sand. So, checkmate
0:58 this is now my new favorite insult
Same
I love how casually Iceman revealed Peter's secret identity
"You're existence is an insult to god"
Says the dude that have the abilities of a spider
"the tears they buuuurn !"
That had me rolling 🤣
Jesus, just that one part with Spiderman on the water killed me. Love it
2:18 The Legend of Zelda Orcarina Of Time intro music had me rolling!🤣🤣🤣
"I hate sand. Its coarse, SOULESS, and it gets everywhere"- Spiderman
2:13 best part. "Soulless fucking Sandman"
I felt bad for Sandman after that encounter. Bad enough being weak to water but to be told he doesn't have a soul? Wow!
He deserves that, the godless freak.
He might not have landed a single punch but Spidey ended up dealing way more damage
*”THE TEARS, THEY BURN”*
@@RobinTheMetaGod I guess that means you don't exist.
@@RobinTheMetaGod...well first of all, beyond the fact the guy didn't even mention God, you're just a prick.
@@RobinTheMetaGodprove it
@@Icemario87
The fact I exist proves against your God.
The juxtaposition of ICEman questioning if sandman has an immortal eternal soul because he's entirely composed of sand reminds me that Iceman actually does have a single cell nucleus which allows him to reconstitute provided it's not damaged and thus is OBVIOUS at least to Iceman that he retains his immortal soul
Assuming this Iceman is from spiderman and his super friend's. Then he is just guy that coats himself in ice
Literally those people that stand on street corners saying you'll go to hell if you don't repent (and probably threaten you tbh)vs the average person just trying to do anything but pay attention to them
I like how Spiderman's new strategy is just to humiliate and destroy his villains' ego so brutally that they lose the will to fight.
That's always been his strategy. He relentlessly mocks his opponents until it pisses them off, then because it makes them sloppy, he gets an edge over them.
He makes fun of the Green Goblin for being a man with a purse, he makes fun of Kingpin for being fat, he makes fun of Rhino for being stupid, he makes fun of Mysterio for his outfit and he makes fun of random criminals for being helpless against him.
I was half expecting further humiliation involving “watering” Sand Man, since that’s his weakness and not to be taken seriously.
Maybe sandman’s soul became so powerful that it could metaphysically control the sand particles with telekinesis. Sort of like how a ghost can levitate objects but extremely more intricately and focused.
You're not wrong, I guess? Flint's soul is essentially within a grain of sand.
So technically speaking, Sandman is a sand ghost, manipulating sand to make himself look human
1:38 he dig his own grave with this one
SandMan: My weakness is water
'Signs' Aliens: That's rough buddy, we feel you.
Oh man, so few things make me laugh out loud like this did. I love how he just wants to fight and keeps getting torn down about sand not having a soul.
Spider-Man jumping into a body of water yelling
"Get me now pussy" is peak comedy
Holy shit this is so funny when I started playing Spider-Man 2 my brother and I were laughing our asses off and constantly quoting this video. Thank you so much for making this dude 🤣
The nerve of Iceman
The sheer audacity
For him to be talking shit
I honestly expected spidey to start shitting on him too.
He can actually turn back and forth from human to snowman. Sandman, well he can just look the part.
You punch Iceman in human form, it’s a fair fight(until he changes). You punch Sandman in his human looking form, it’s like punching a bag of sand, because he’s merely mimicking what he used to look like.
ice man did go to hell once but he just froze everything there and dipped.
your haiku failed 😅
@@thedreadtyger this wasn't meant to be a haiku, though that is a good idea
Spider man 3 always had me morbidly curious about how the hell being made of sand works. Was borderline body horror to me as a kid.
I can't get over, Spider-Man Just outright saying "you're going to hell dude" I don't know why but that just destroys me so much I can't stop laughing. He just completely zerosums sandmans entire existence. And then he starts in on the whole weakness. Being water which is just the icing on the cake.
“The tears, they burn!”
😂 holy shit perfect line delivery.
"Spiderman, you're focusing on the wrong thing."
This is basically it goes trying to teach kids literally anything for the first time 😂
1:09 *THIS RIGHT HERE!* Honestly, feels like every other comic now Spider-Man is fighting a supernatural or demonic enemy more than mutants or sci fi criminals.
Nothing too wrong, but just saying. I think we’ve jumped the shark
I'll pray for you, Sandman
For those who are wondering how this works in the comics, there is a single grain of sand within the mass of sand that houses his consciousness. And yes, if you remove that one grain the rest of the sand just goes back to normal. But good luck finding that one, it's like trying to find a grain of sand in a desert
Finding a grain of sand in a desert is pretty easy
@@RomeroDisease Not if you're looking for a very specific one XD
"The Tears they burn"
Being Sandman is suffering.
I love that Spiderman's curses are censor and Sandman aren't. The good guy can't swear, but bad guys are free!
Sandman can curse because he doesn't have a soul
'Im glad you finally asked" is the most underrated line. Thats absolutely hilarious.
"Am I getting Punk'd" absolutely destroyed me
Solid JJ once again proves he’s the master of the last second stinger joke
0:11 "No that's the guy at the other studio."
"The god of dreams?"
"What? No, the older one."
"...Hawkman?"
"NO! The one with the sleep gun!"