I've always loved Psylocke, she is one of my favorite characters of all time! Jim Lee's design for her, post body swap, is one of the best redesigns of all time.
And most if not all videos continue with "...have a discussion...", which I find a bit ironic since videos don't quite feel like a discussion to me, at least on their own and not counting comment sections.
Psylocke in X:Men Apocalypse looks absolutely perfect, but she isn't a character so much as an action figure; she has maybe two lines of dialogue, explaining absolutely none of her motivations. She definitely has lots of badass action moments, but they didn't really even try to flesh her out as a person.
Psylocke is one of my favorite X-Men characters! I hated her in the new movie because Bryan Singer sucks at characterization of characters not named Wolverine, Magneto and Xavier.
Good point. In Apocalypse it would have been better to just concentrate on developing the new characters instead of delving back into Mystique, Xavier and Magneto.
+Darsh Sheeter true, they had a really good chance to show off there powers at the scence where apocalypse say "everything they built...." like storm could have created a storm to show off her power and phylocke could have crushed a mountain
Well, at least Psylocke, and Betsy are both getting some respect on Jonathan Hickman's run here in 2021! I am loving the new Krakoa/Dawn of X, set of stories!
True, though to be fair at least it was a better representation of the character powerwise and lookwise than her appearance in The Last Stand. *Spoilers for Apocalypse* She does end up surviving Apocalypse and just leaves, so maybe she'll return in future movies and get development (maybe in that X-force movie Fox has been talking about).
Munn at least physically looks perfect as Psylocke. Like, she looks like she jumped straight out of the pages, so I do kind of hope they bring her back if (or rather when) they continue the film series and give her more to do. They at least left it very open at the end.
Kiyosuki- u need to look at her comics AND the movie side-by-side. Movie DIDNT make her look as good. The comics made me wanna see her more in the 90's, the movie just made her unlikeable.
It's funny you should say this because Munn dived into the character & stood up for the character but the directors were completely clueless on the storyline and this was poorly managed and made. Munn should definitely get a second opportunity to reprise the role as complex as psylocke the character is, she's definitely up there in the ranks with fan fav
Great break down of the history of Ms. Betsy Braddock, however, the fact that she is not a mutant was missed. It was covered in the old Captain Britain comics that Betsy and her brothers are decedents of the same race of extra-dimensional aliens as Merlin. Her abilities have more to do with how she understands her abilities to work, rather than how they actually work, which is the ability to alter reality. Her older brother Jack's insanity unlocks his raw potential, While Brian's inner focus resulted in his superhero physique and powers. In Betsy's case, it was her psyche.
I kinda wish they'd have psylocke interact with captain Britain more because, despite the fact that they're twin siblings, they don't actually talk that much. I just think it would be cool to see more interactions between the two, with maybe psylocke checking in on her brother or either of them coming to each other for advice with certain situations.
opesnkies11 - It's always been complicated. Because of different writers, different creators, different ideas. People get fired and someone else takes over with a different ideas. Even with all those complex writing there is still an average of logical continuum in each characters stories that is pretty good to follow.
I was introduced to Psylocke when she wore armor and had curly purple hair a little before the whole siege perilous thing. Didn't really like the new look for a long time. Until i went back and read the new mutant issues with her, giving a better understanding of her inner motivations n stuff. After that i saw how an uber sexy killer ninja badass fit her. So I like it now. If she is ever used more in movies, i'd like to hear her talk with a british twang, that'd be sweet.
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I've always loved Psylocke since the early 90's. Definitely an underrated super hero it's all because of the many confusing and complex background of her story that kept her from being more recognizable.
I'm surprised you didn't talk about her second fight with Sabretooth that led to her getting the Crimson Dawn scar. But she's pretty convoluted anyway and that was a whole mess. Great vid!
@@deezee2965 At first I thought it was stupid to have this convoluted backstory, but then I got to thinking: You have Betsy and Kwannon who now have half of each other and are now psychically locked. Hence they *BOTH* identify as *Psylocke* due to the fact they're psychically locked with one another. Then in an effort to ease the psychic torture of being split, and due to the fact each of them are now identifying with this ONE identity (Psylocke) they seek to kill each other to claim the 'title'.
Psylocke is my favorite Marvel character. You pretty much nailed her history in this video. As for the movie, I see her as an introduction of Psylocke. Her arc was very minimum. She's pretty much a blank slate at the moment. Time for Deadpool or X-Force to picked up her as team member!
she was very underused in the movie, she needs to be in the x force movie, and it needs to be olivia munn playing the character. she actually cares about the character and I want to see her done justice.
Robert Deffenbaugh an actress who only did her voice in a video game and doesn't look like the character at all doesn't sound very true to the character
Robert Deffenbaugh But that's not a casting problem, that's a writing/directing problem. Also, X-men legends doesn't follow the comic's history, if anything it's loosely based on the ultimate x men comic
psylock only had like two lines in flick. why was she in it anyway just to shoehorn a character into the movie. they should focus on plot and character development
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Psylocke was great in what she had in the new Apocalypse movie. I was just hoping for a lot more. She barely had any dialogue. And, Olivia Munn is awesome.
She sucks at acting though. I havent seen that Xmen movie to be fair, but man I hated her in the Newsroom and other smaller roles I've seen her in. She suffers from "I only have one expression"-face. However I did like her on Attack of the Show.
It was a waste... she said nothing, did nothing, the movie would not have missed her if she wasn't there. It was just a weak movie in general that did nothing for the X-Men franchise.
Rob, I'd love to hear your thoughts on Marvel's current landscape overall. Like do you believe that Marvel is slowly trying to kill the mutants off and replace them with Inhumans?
I'm glad that we finally get a true, PROPER Psylocke in the movies!! And she freaking looks the part too! Great job for the costume designer! Seriously I'm often so tired of comic book movies where instead of making "comic book" style outfits, they slap them in generic looking leather uniforms >coughcough
I'll disagree. The Psylocke from the movie was little more than a cardboard cutout. The look and the psyblade they got (but wtf psywhip?!?), but they completely failed to develop her at all. The mutant at the very beginning who shielded Apocalypse was better developed than Psylocke. I'll give them kudos for at least including the costume and power, but they failed to include Psylocke in this movie.
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Psylocke suffered from the same problem all the villains suffered from in the movie. She was under developed and under utilized. If you removed her from the film it would not have changed much of anything. It's sad because Olivia Munn is great and I hope she gets to come back to the character in a script that does the character justice.
Wow. That was a great way to put it all together. I always thought Psylocke's character was just all over the place. Would love to see one about Emma Frost. :)
With regards to her role in the movie, she is completely forgettable. She's given little screen time or lines so there's no way to care about her character.
Eh, Quicksilver, Cyclops, Jean, and Magneto stood out and left an impression whether good or ill. I will say, they got Psylocke outfit and the visual effects of her power correct. Nothing that actually makes the character great from the comics was included. Though that's been a running theme with most of the characters in the x-men movies with the exception of Wolverine, Xavier, and Magneto.
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I was disappointed by Psylocke in the X-Men: Apocalypse movie. Not because of how she was portrayed but the lack of use. They made this big deal about her being in the movie but she had what may 10 mins tops of screen time. I think Olivia Munn did a great job and looked great but wasn't given her time to shine!
munn did about as well as she could have in that role. she was kind of just a henchman and the script didnt allow her character to be fleshed out, or to have much defining screen time
One of my all time favorite X-Men characters. Great video. I'll let you know how I feel about her after I see the movie. I'm skeptical but I'm trying to keep an open mind about it.
BTW: The black Ops X-Force was created by Cyclops. NOT Wolverine, but Wolverine was the team leader. Love the Psylocke coverage, thank you! She is my all time fav female hero! Also wished you had gone thru her power set and its changes. Maybe a follow up vid? As for the movie, it looked nice, but was a disservice to Betsy. No story for the audience to care about. They used her only for eye candy. Hope she is back with more screen time, dialogue, and lovin'!
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When it cones down to the movie, They should broken Apocalypse up into at least 2 movies simply because Apocalypse is such a Mega villian with a very broad background. I feel as though the story line was rushed a bit, and was focused too much on mystique and magneto. a two part would have really let us get into the background of psylock and her connection with Angel. Also the movie didnt let us fully see what she was capable of. It basically showed that she could form energy based weapons and was good at hand to hand combat. If I wasnt a marvel comics fan, I eould have never known she pocessed powers that could rival Jean Grey and Professor X. Seems like none of the X men team based movies do their powers any justice unless its Magneto, Professor X, Jean Grey, Mystique, or Wolverine .
I wonder if she and Angel have a relationship in the film. It was Psylocke's idea to recruit Angel as a horseman and she seems shocked at Angel's crippled wing, his rejection and his painful transformation. But she is clearly impressed by Archangel new power and the two of the them actually perform teamwork whilst fighting the X-men. I wonder if she will be a member of X-Force and would she take ArchAngel with her.
Yeah man, keep it up. I really liked Olivia Munn’s Version of the character in that last movie, I think the role was cast well. And her costume was great, I think she did a great job
FINALLY somebody did her history correctly. I've had to correct some people who didn't do much research at all. I appreciate what you did. Still a fan of the original and to me better Psylocke, thanks.
How many times are they going to get her character wron on screen. In X-Men the animated series she was a thief and in X-Men the Last Stand, Wolverine and the X-Men and X-Men Apocalypse she was on the bad guys side. And of course the two live action versions could at laest give some reference to her English background.
The movie did not spend much time to develop her character, so I do not blame Olivia Munn for her performance, which was mostly action scenes. She was competent, but her motivations were a cipher.
of all the characters in the new movie Psylocke and Archangel we the least fleshed out. I had hoped for more story, but... that's just what happens with some late character additions
psylocke's character in the x-men apocalypse movie was not well developed and actually kinda nonexistent. (i'll go into my opinions about her in comics throughout her history first, and then talk about psylocke in the movie, what i think could be better, and then also talk a little about psylocke's caucasian/asian race problems that they addressed by casting olivia munn) in the comics, from what i've gathered (after reading through most of her history starting from the captain britain comics), she is a hero at heart. she wants to do good for others, and to protect others. this was evident when she took on a metallic warrior form during uncanny x-men giant sized annual #11, fulfilling her heart's greatest desire to become a warrior and protect her friends. but over the years, she has been hurt, she has been manipulated, she has been traumatized physically and mentally, and she has been twisted around in the worst possible ways. coming out from the "body swap" (which originally was not meant to be an actual body swap by chris claremont.... and it was meant to be temporary, but after claremont left, his original story was messed up by fabian nicieza and was made permanent), psylocke's character was.... not the same. she was violent. and kind of heartless too. personally i blame this on bad writing. writers just wanted her to be the cold ruthless ninja but that isnt her character at all. not her true character, anyway. it wasn't until after the sisterhood event in the late 2000's that saw her reincarnation back into her original british body and then yet another body swap into her japanese kwannon body that psylocke's original personality started to show through again, during uncanny x-force. now, this is my favorite version of psylocke, the version that makes the most sense, in my opinion. rick remender's psylocke shows the most compelling character, which makes way for some of the most compelling stories that have been told with psylocke as a main character. was she violent during remender's run? yes. but she was also a good hearted hero at the same time. deep deep down, she knew what was right and wrong. but because of her history, there were times when she became a bit violent, and actually began to enjoy killing. immediately she would regret those feelings of violence, and there were even times where she chose to kill because she had to, not because she wanted to. the relationship between her good hearted morals and her addiction to bloodshed and violence was actually what I enjoyed most about rick remender's psylocke. it was much more interesting and much more compelling than both claremont's original psylocke and what psylocke became immediately following the body swap. now, in uncanny x-force vol 2, remender was no longer writing psylocke stories, and she once again kinda lost her character. tbh uncanny x-force vol 2 was just bad writing all around in my opinion. she was much better in the marvel now x-men series (especially once g willow wilson took over towards the end) and in the marvel now x-force series. neither of these series were great, but they were readable. psylocke was portrayed ok too, i think. but nothing beats rick remender's uncanny x-force vol 1. in current comics, she leads a team with magneto (well... magneto IS the leader, but psylocke is seen as second in command, and the female leader of the team). I haven't actually read all of the issues in this series yet but from what i've gathered, psylocke is portrayed pretty well by cullen bunn here too. again, doesn't really beat rick remender in my opinion, but still good. psylocke from 2010-present is what I want to see in future x-men movies since x-men apocalypse didn't do her justice. heck, they didn't even get her powers right. they seriously underpowered her telekinesis and didn't even give her telepathy, and did not put much focus on her ninja martial arts abilities either. since rick remender's run, I've seen her character as being truly heroic, but at the same time her character is conflicted and burdened, always struggling with right vs wrong because of the relationship between her morals and the violence in her that has been sparked by her convoluted but tormenting history. the movies have A LOT of really good source material to work with in making psylocke a badass psychic ninja, AND a compelling character that is actually useful to the story. i'm hoping they take that chance. ALSO, one thing that most people don't talk about is olivia munn's race. I think it's great that they chose her because she is half asian. It effectively addresses the problematic race issues that psylocke has, being a white british woman inside the body of a japanese ninja assassin. i'm super glad they chose her to address that problem. could they have picked someone else who is a better actress? eh, maybe. but i didn't pay too much attention to olivia's acting because she didn't really get much of a chance to do a lot of acting during the movie. but i really do appreciate munn's dedication to psylocke, all the training she went through to be in good enough shape for the character, and her research that she's done on psylocke's history and character. i think that dedication trumps any acting issues she might have had tbh, so i like olivia munn as psylocke. i get that not everyone will agree with me, but as a big fan of psylocke that's just my two cents. :)
timothy moore yeah I agree. Kate Beckinsale would have been great, though most people would probably hate to see her in a role where she can't fight well, since beckinsale has become primarily associated with action/fighting roles. British psylocke was an excellent telepath, but not really that effective when it came to physical combat. or at least not nearly as good as she is now with the japanese body. but did you know that Kate Beckinsale is actually part asian too? she has some Burmese in her. I think if they decided to go with japanese psylocke (instead of the mixed race psylocke with Olivia Munn), I would probably pick a Japanese action actress like Rinko Kikuchi. I think she's a badass and with the right hairstyle and costume, she could make a good psylocke. of course there are other japanese actresses who would look the part a bit better but i think rinko's experience in action movies and martial arts would put her ahead of most other actresses.
If they still do the Captain Britain thing, only rumours for now. We'll probably get a semblance of the purple haired Elizabeth. I don't mind if the TV show/movie version isn't a trope of every female ever now being some super combatant. I'd liken her more to Scarlet Witch. Using her powers to be a badass, and probably getting trounced up close. I don't even think every male should be an amazing combatant. Some people are there just for support, and add contribute in other ways. I'm a huge British Psylocke fan and write my own alternate universe version of her. I didn't add combat abilities, just expanded her Telepathy adding Technopathy. I think Kelly Brook would make a good Elizabeth Braddock, just on looks alone.
Hey CE, do you think you could explain the Ultimate Nullifier? also showing key stories for and and all that good stuff? Thanks, and love your channel!
Hey Rob if you see this, it would be dope to see you make a what if story on Psylocke, but here's a small idea to run with. At first I thought it was stupid to have this convoluted backstory, but then I got to thinking: You have Betsy and Kwannon who now have half of each other and are now psychically locked. Hence they *BOTH* identify as *Psylocke* due to the fact they're psychically locked with one another. Then in an effort to ease the psychic torture of being split, and due to the fact each of them are now identifying with this ONE identity (Psylocke), they seek to kill each other to claim the 'title'.
Psylocke has a very complex origin that went in different directions. There was much more to her than I realized, and I used to collect the X-Men, years ago. The movie version of Psylocke was presented as mercenary and an assassin, before she as a follower of Apocalypse. I loved the movie, but she should have had a much bigger role in latest X-Men movie.
While X-Men Apocalypse had a lot of flaws. I think Olivia Munn managed to convey a lot of the characters strength and emotion through body language. I could see her being a Lieutenant for Sinister in a sequel before becoming a member of the X-Men or possibly appearing in "Old Man Logan" Wolverine.
Wait....The Xmen gave their lives as a sacrifice for Forge's spell to stop the Adversary. Roma resurrected them and then gave them the Siege Perilious to use should they decide to want a new life, but it was used to keep them from being killed by the Reavers because of the "fever dream" Psylocke had of the Xmen being killed.
Psylocke looked amazing and I could be biased because I love Olivia Munn but she definitely needed more screen time and to be more involved. Her costume was on point, the effects were fantastic but not enough screen time I thought!
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I've always loved Psylocke, she is one of my favorite characters of all time! Jim Lee's design for her, post body swap, is one of the best redesigns of all time.
Psylocke was soooooo underused in X-Men Apocalypse ughhh
nun wrong with underdressed
X-Men Apocalypse destroyed so much characters TBH
Psylocke
Angel
Storm
Cyclops
Mystique
and even Jean gray to an extent were just ...ugh
it was an over glorified cameo
That movie could've been better if everyone was underused.
Who cares
Jim Lee drew her so good in the 90s....too good lol my young mind was very distracted by her n Rogue in the early 90s
Maddy's run was pretty hot too, Mmm, mm, loved me some Psylocke.
Are you talking about Madelyne Pryor? Jean Grey's clone and Cable's mother?
Me2 haha
Andy Kubert's Psylocke was pretty hot too.
Agreed
haven't started the video yet, I am almost sure he is going to start the video with "so what I want to do here"
hahaha
And most if not all videos continue with "...have a discussion...", which I find a bit ironic since videos don't quite feel like a discussion to me, at least on their own and not counting comment sections.
But we're having a discussion right now :D
He just starts the dialogue with a monologue.
*Slow Clap*
ahahhahahaha
Psylocke in X:Men Apocalypse looks absolutely perfect, but she isn't a character so much as an action figure; she has maybe two lines of dialogue, explaining absolutely none of her motivations. She definitely has lots of badass action moments, but they didn't really even try to flesh her out as a person.
Psylocke is one of my favorite X-Men characters! I hated her in the new movie because Bryan Singer sucks at characterization of characters not named Wolverine, Magneto and Xavier.
Good point. In Apocalypse it would have been better to just concentrate on developing the new characters instead of delving back into Mystique, Xavier and Magneto.
+Darsh Sheeter true, they had a really good chance to show off there powers at the scence where apocalypse say "everything they built...." like storm could have created a storm to show off her power and phylocke could have crushed a mountain
I don't know ice man and storm where pretty okay
Well, at least Psylocke, and Betsy are both getting some respect on Jonathan Hickman's run here in 2021! I am loving the new Krakoa/Dawn of X, set of stories!
Right !!!!!!!
one of my main complaints of X-Men Apocalypse is Psylocke was only a generic henchman
She literally had no plot but 'looking badass'
ikr. It's a DAMN shame that she wasn't this deep in the movie.
True, though to be fair at least it was a better representation of the character powerwise and lookwise than her appearance in The Last Stand.
*Spoilers for Apocalypse*
She does end up surviving Apocalypse and just leaves, so maybe she'll return in future movies and get development (maybe in that X-force movie Fox has been talking about).
+BBmetalhead04 True words from a wise man. Still wished she had a British accent tho
or so it seems...
jim lee's artwork . . . still the best
I liked Marc Sivestri's art on the X-Men during the 80s too before Jim Lee took over from him.
Did ya read Wild Cats by Image? Pretty dawned good drawn and created by Jim Lee.
RIGHT??? I've always loved Jim Lees art. Especially when he created those new X-Men in the 90's.
Madureira was my favorite.
X-Men #6 (1991)
Munn at least physically looks perfect as Psylocke. Like, she looks like she jumped straight out of the pages, so I do kind of hope they bring her back if (or rather when) they continue the film series and give her more to do. They at least left it very open at the end.
No she didn't
Agreed. Wanted to see more like her backstory but I think were definitely going to see more of her because of her last scene.
Kiyosuki- u need to look at her comics AND the movie side-by-side. Movie DIDNT make her look as good. The comics made me wanna see her more in the 90's, the movie just made her unlikeable.
It's funny you should say this because Munn dived into the character & stood up for the character but the directors were completely clueless on the storyline and this was poorly managed and made. Munn should definitely get a second opportunity to reprise the role as complex as psylocke the character is, she's definitely up there in the ranks with fan fav
Check out Munn's interviews where she openly speaks about her artistic differences due to her insistence for the characters proper portrayal.
Great break down of the history of Ms. Betsy Braddock, however, the fact that she is not a mutant was missed. It was covered in the old Captain Britain comics that Betsy and her brothers are decedents of the same race of extra-dimensional aliens as Merlin. Her abilities have more to do with how she understands her abilities to work, rather than how they actually work, which is the ability to alter reality. Her older brother Jack's insanity unlocks his raw potential, While Brian's inner focus resulted in his superhero physique and powers. In Betsy's case, it was her psyche.
I kinda wish they'd have psylocke interact with captain Britain more because, despite the fact that they're twin siblings, they don't actually talk that much. I just think it would be cool to see more interactions between the two, with maybe psylocke checking in on her brother or either of them coming to each other for advice with certain situations.
I literally typed comics explained psylocke and this popped up. It's crazy how far you've come. short change my dude. short change
Holy shit, the X-men have gotten complicated since I was a kid.
You can say that again XD
opesnkies11 - It's always been complicated. Because of different writers, different creators, different ideas. People get fired and someone else takes over with a different ideas. Even with all those complex writing there is still an average of logical continuum in each characters stories that is pretty good to follow.
@@devonferris if I owned fox then I'd make a lot of changes to the bad movies
These stories are from decades ago
Psylocke is my favorite female Marvel hero.
I was introduced to Psylocke when she wore armor and had curly purple hair a little before the whole siege perilous thing. Didn't really like the new look for a long time. Until i went back and read the new mutant issues with her, giving a better understanding of her inner motivations n stuff. After that i saw how an uber sexy killer ninja badass fit her. So I like it now. If she is ever used more in movies, i'd like to hear her talk with a british twang, that'd be sweet.
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I've always loved Psylocke since the early 90's. Definitely an underrated super hero it's all because of the many confusing and complex background of her story that kept her from being more recognizable.
The psyloche theme from SNES was really good
I definitely think that Psylocke needs her own movie.
I had a huge crush on her in the 90's. =)
same here lol
"Had?" Hmmm, I still do maybe that's the boy in me.☺️
I'm surprised you didn't talk about her second fight with Sabretooth that led to her getting the Crimson Dawn scar. But she's pretty convoluted anyway and that was a whole mess. Great vid!
She was completely underused
Probably my favorite member of the Xmen, too bad she's all over the place
In the movies and in the comics... the recent writer who got what she was about was Rick Remender.
I think that Olivia Munn Psylocke's was Spot on. I'm looking forward to seeing more of her in film and more in Comics.
Ugh, such a long convoluted background, with multiple overlapping layers of retcons by different writing teams ... my head hurts now.
The worst fate for any superhero...
@@deezee2965 At first I thought it was stupid to have this convoluted backstory, but then I got to thinking:
You have Betsy and Kwannon who now have half of each other and are now psychically locked. Hence they *BOTH* identify as *Psylocke* due to the fact they're psychically locked with one another. Then in an effort to ease the psychic torture of being split, and due to the fact each of them are now identifying with this ONE identity (Psylocke) they seek to kill each other to claim the 'title'.
Psylocke is my favorite Marvel character. You pretty much nailed her history in this video.
As for the movie, I see her as an introduction of Psylocke. Her arc was very minimum. She's pretty much a blank slate at the moment. Time for Deadpool or X-Force to picked up her as team member!
Man, whenever I hear of astrolprojection I just remember how Jackie Chan Adventures explains how useless it is lol
Psylocke was one of my favorite parts of X-Men Apocalypse, but I just wanted MORE.
she was very underused in the movie, she needs to be in the x force movie, and it needs to be olivia munn playing the character. she actually cares about the character and I want to see her done justice.
strykerx24 Agreed
Robert Deffenbaugh but she doesn't look like the character at all
Robert Deffenbaugh an actress who only did her voice in a video game and doesn't look like the character at all doesn't sound very true to the character
Robert Deffenbaugh But that's not a casting problem, that's a writing/directing problem. Also, X-men legends doesn't follow the comic's history, if anything it's loosely based on the ultimate x men comic
Clearly not enough to put on an accent
I think......if they had gone with a producer and director that actually loved the xmen we'd get a better movie.
What do you give it out of 10
6
+dragha a 4
Fox butchered the movies 😭
Like Joss Whedon? He'd be perfect
psylock only had like two lines in flick. why was she in it anyway just to shoehorn a character into the movie. they should focus on plot and character development
There wasn't enough of Psylocke in X-Men: Apocalypse.
Psylocke character in the films were sorely underused as she is a huge part of The Xmen.
You videos are perfect. Whenever i want to sleep, i just put on my earphones and watch your stuff. Works like magic!
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I don't think that's something he wants to read.
I feel the same thiing lol
not an insult, its such an escape after a stressfull day. i get the same release and enjoyment from his videos before bed that i got on saturday morning watching the cartoons or when my dad would bring me home a new comic as a kid. its a great comfort, and revival of a world some of us adults may have lost forever had not his passion kept us embibed.
90s psylocke is the bet pylocke
I despise Ninja Chick Locke, but she's thankfully written better, and got a cotume upgrade.
Remember when she are Lady Psydug? He cotume is terribal.
she was basically just eye candy then
I prefer her newer versions
She's important cause her costume is hot.
yup lol..
And she has a nice ass and rack
Tru fam
Lol
Mutant Giggity (⌐■_■)
A buddy of mine got me X-Men #256 as a birthday present one year. One of the coolest gifts I've ever received :)
Psylocke was great in what she had in the new Apocalypse movie. I was just hoping for a lot more. She barely had any dialogue. And, Olivia Munn is awesome.
She sucks at acting though. I havent seen that Xmen movie to be fair, but man I hated her in the Newsroom and other smaller roles I've seen her in. She suffers from "I only have one expression"-face.
However I did like her on Attack of the Show.
It was a waste... she said nothing, did nothing, the movie would not have missed her if she wasn't there. It was just a weak movie in general that did nothing for the X-Men franchise.
he starts every episode with: "so, what I wanted to do here is.."
That's the best part of these videos. A simple thesis to the video, and it makes the whole channel cohesive.
They did Psylocke wrong in X-Men Apocalypse. Truly, they even made Apocalypse look weak.
Rob, I'd love to hear your thoughts on Marvel's current landscape overall. Like do you believe that Marvel is slowly trying to kill the mutants off and replace them with Inhumans?
my top favorite x-girl. i play marvel ultimate alliance 2 w/psylocke DLC. just to use her. thanks for the origin. your a scholar sir.
Psylocke was pretty good in the film but needed more screen-time and I didn't think he costume was quit right. Hope she returns in more films
I'm glad that we finally get a true, PROPER Psylocke in the movies!! And she freaking looks the part too! Great job for the costume designer! Seriously I'm often so tired of comic book movies where instead of making "comic book" style outfits, they slap them in generic looking leather uniforms >coughcough
I'll disagree. The Psylocke from the movie was little more than a cardboard cutout. The look and the psyblade they got (but wtf psywhip?!?), but they completely failed to develop her at all. The mutant at the very beginning who shielded Apocalypse was better developed than Psylocke.
I'll give them kudos for at least including the costume and power, but they failed to include Psylocke in this movie.
They may well as just called her Kwannon or Revanche.
Thanks for the update. She has been one of my favorite X-men for a lone time although I haven't picked up a book in years
This may seem ignorant, but simply in the little I know about the X-men/Marvel comics, the ingenuity of the authors and artists simply amazes me!
I've been subscribed for a while and your content is awesome and great. I only have one small criticism, the recording of your voice tends to be a bit heavy on the lows which sounds muddy from time to time and I have a hard time understanding. I think adjusting the EQ a bit would be great :) cheers
I pull the 250 hz down a bit and it clears it right up for me.
yes it sounds kinda muddy and no other vidios i watch sound like this.i really hope this is fixed cause i love the content
Psylocke suffered from the same problem all the villains suffered from in the movie. She was under developed and under utilized. If you removed her from the film it would not have changed much of anything. It's sad because Olivia Munn is great and I hope she gets to come back to the character in a script that does the character justice.
I enjoyed her role in the apocayps movie. Curious to see more of her. Not to mention Tara greaking NAILED IT
Thank you because I ALWAYS loved this X- Men character and NOW I understand her fully now.
Late 80s to all of 90s up until the image comics shake up marvel was so good
Love her. Really hope they bring her into the new XMEN reboot. She's one of my favs in MCOC .
Wow. That was a great way to put it all together. I always thought Psylocke's character was just all over the place. Would love to see one about Emma Frost. :)
So much info to keep track off! Definitely rematch rewatching this video!
With regards to her role in the movie, she is completely forgettable. She's given little screen time or lines so there's no way to care about her character.
I keep hearing that actress is shit, but that's no excuse because J-law was uninterested at best.
She isn't forgettable. She actually stands out. She just didnt have as much of a role in the plot. But it was more of her introduction.
Eh, Quicksilver, Cyclops, Jean, and Magneto stood out and left an impression whether good or ill. I will say, they got Psylocke outfit and the visual effects of her power correct. Nothing that actually makes the character great from the comics was included. Though that's been a running theme with most of the characters in the x-men movies with the exception of Wolverine, Xavier, and Magneto.
Remy Melanie Like I said. It was more of n introduction. It was obvious were going to get more of her when she gave everyone the stink eye.
Love your videos my friend..! I know quite a bit about a lot of characters but I always learn or re-learn something with your videos. Thanks so much. Nice speaking voice as well. Keep up the good work.
I was disappointed by Psylocke in the X-Men: Apocalypse movie. Not because of how she was portrayed but the lack of use. They made this big deal about her being in the movie but she had what may 10 mins tops of screen time. I think Olivia Munn did a great job and looked great but wasn't given her time to shine!
I always remember that she saved the team.✊🙏
Acts of vengeance was amazing.
In The Xmen new movie psylocke was great.
munn did about as well as she could have in that role. she was kind of just a henchman and the script didnt allow her character to be fleshed out, or to have much defining screen time
One of my all time favorite X-Men characters. Great video.
I'll let you know how I feel about her after I see the movie. I'm skeptical but I'm trying to keep an open mind about it.
BTW: The black Ops X-Force was created by Cyclops. NOT Wolverine, but Wolverine was the team leader.
Love the Psylocke coverage, thank you! She is my all time fav female hero! Also wished you had gone thru her power set and its changes. Maybe a follow up vid?
As for the movie, it looked nice, but was a disservice to Betsy. No story for the audience to care about. They used her only for eye candy. Hope she is back with more screen time, dialogue, and lovin'!
This video reminded me... Do an explanation of Longshot! He was one of my favorites back in the day, plus the whole Mojoworld story arc was awesome.
Olivia Munn as Psylocke is the best looking adaptation of a comic book character on the big screen
thanks for the video 👍 psylocke was my favorite character in x-men apocalypse! I wished they explained more but maybe bring her back later I hope!!
you have my love and thanks for this video.
As a fan, I ask if you would ever make a video on how you organize all your comic knowledge.
Such as in a way that comic fans can figure out what connecting comics are worth reading.
thank you again
When it cones down to the movie, They should broken Apocalypse up into at least 2 movies simply because Apocalypse is such a Mega villian with a very broad background. I feel as though the story line was rushed a bit, and was focused too much on mystique and magneto. a two part would have really let us get into the background of psylock and her connection with Angel. Also the movie didnt let us fully see what she was capable of. It basically showed that she could form energy based weapons and was good at hand to hand combat. If I wasnt a marvel comics fan, I eould have never known she pocessed powers that could rival Jean Grey and Professor X. Seems like none of the X men team based movies do their powers any justice unless its Magneto, Professor X, Jean Grey, Mystique, or Wolverine .
I wonder if she and Angel have a relationship in the film. It was Psylocke's idea to recruit Angel as a horseman and she seems shocked at Angel's crippled wing, his rejection and his painful transformation. But she is clearly impressed by Archangel new power and the two of the them actually perform teamwork whilst fighting the X-men.
I wonder if she will be a member of X-Force and would she take ArchAngel with her.
Yeah man, keep it up. I really liked Olivia Munn’s Version of the character in that last movie, I think the role was cast well. And her costume was great, I think she did a great job
FINALLY somebody did her history correctly. I've had to correct some people who didn't do much research at all. I appreciate what you did. Still a fan of the original and to me better Psylocke, thanks.
Thanx for this! I'm hoping you make a video about X-Force soon as well.
Thank you for sharing, keep doing what you do!!!
Great video as always, keep up the great work
Super helpful, totally worth watching
Thank you for this. I've always LOVED Psylocke, but didn't know her full story.
Loved psylocke from Rick remendeirs xforce run
How many times are they going to get her character wron on screen. In X-Men the animated series she was a thief and in X-Men the Last Stand, Wolverine and the X-Men and X-Men Apocalypse she was on the bad guys side. And of course the two live action versions could at laest give some reference to her English background.
The common thing with Elektra (Soul Swap to a dancer before she die)& Psylocke(Mind Swap with Kwannon’s dead body)is The Hand
same problem everywhere i look, not enough consistency with continuity
The movie did not spend much time to develop her character, so I do not blame Olivia Munn for her performance, which was mostly action scenes. She was competent, but her motivations were a cipher.
Blame Bryan Singer.
I like to participation in the movie but I thought they could have done more in the character development I hope Marvel finally takes overl
The inspiration for Soulknives in D&D, gotta respect her.
of all the characters in the new movie Psylocke and Archangel we the least fleshed out. I had hoped for more story, but... that's just what happens with some late character additions
I want them in X-Force. It doesnt suit their negative personalities to be X-men. But I can imagine them doing the Wrong things for the Right reasons.
One of my favorites for almost twenty years.. man am I old
Psylocke is on a rampage ha
psylocke's character in the x-men apocalypse movie was not well developed and actually kinda nonexistent. (i'll go into my opinions about her in comics throughout her history first, and then talk about psylocke in the movie, what i think could be better, and then also talk a little about psylocke's caucasian/asian race problems that they addressed by casting olivia munn)
in the comics, from what i've gathered (after reading through most of her history starting from the captain britain comics), she is a hero at heart. she wants to do good for others, and to protect others. this was evident when she took on a metallic warrior form during uncanny x-men giant sized annual #11, fulfilling her heart's greatest desire to become a warrior and protect her friends.
but over the years, she has been hurt, she has been manipulated, she has been traumatized physically and mentally, and she has been twisted around in the worst possible ways. coming out from the "body swap" (which originally was not meant to be an actual body swap by chris claremont.... and it was meant to be temporary, but after claremont left, his original story was messed up by fabian nicieza and was made permanent), psylocke's character was.... not the same. she was violent. and kind of heartless too. personally i blame this on bad writing. writers just wanted her to be the cold ruthless ninja but that isnt her character at all. not her true character, anyway.
it wasn't until after the sisterhood event in the late 2000's that saw her reincarnation back into her original british body and then yet another body swap into her japanese kwannon body that psylocke's original personality started to show through again, during uncanny x-force. now, this is my favorite version of psylocke, the version that makes the most sense, in my opinion. rick remender's psylocke shows the most compelling character, which makes way for some of the most compelling stories that have been told with psylocke as a main character.
was she violent during remender's run? yes. but she was also a good hearted hero at the same time. deep deep down, she knew what was right and wrong. but because of her history, there were times when she became a bit violent, and actually began to enjoy killing. immediately she would regret those feelings of violence, and there were even times where she chose to kill because she had to, not because she wanted to. the relationship between her good hearted morals and her addiction to bloodshed and violence was actually what I enjoyed most about rick remender's psylocke. it was much more interesting and much more compelling than both claremont's original psylocke and what psylocke became immediately following the body swap.
now, in uncanny x-force vol 2, remender was no longer writing psylocke stories, and she once again kinda lost her character. tbh uncanny x-force vol 2 was just bad writing all around in my opinion. she was much better in the marvel now x-men series (especially once g willow wilson took over towards the end) and in the marvel now x-force series. neither of these series were great, but they were readable. psylocke was portrayed ok too, i think. but nothing beats rick remender's uncanny x-force vol 1. in current comics, she leads a team with magneto (well... magneto IS the leader, but psylocke is seen as second in command, and the female leader of the team). I haven't actually read all of the issues in this series yet but from what i've gathered, psylocke is portrayed pretty well by cullen bunn here too. again, doesn't really beat rick remender in my opinion, but still good.
psylocke from 2010-present is what I want to see in future x-men movies since x-men apocalypse didn't do her justice. heck, they didn't even get her powers right. they seriously underpowered her telekinesis and didn't even give her telepathy, and did not put much focus on her ninja martial arts abilities either. since rick remender's run, I've seen her character as being truly heroic, but at the same time her character is conflicted and burdened, always struggling with right vs wrong because of the relationship between her morals and the violence in her that has been sparked by her convoluted but tormenting history. the movies have A LOT of really good source material to work with in making psylocke a badass psychic ninja, AND a compelling character that is actually useful to the story. i'm hoping they take that chance.
ALSO, one thing that most people don't talk about is olivia munn's race. I think it's great that they chose her because she is half asian. It effectively addresses the problematic race issues that psylocke has, being a white british woman inside the body of a japanese ninja assassin. i'm super glad they chose her to address that problem. could they have picked someone else who is a better actress? eh, maybe. but i didn't pay too much attention to olivia's acting because she didn't really get much of a chance to do a lot of acting during the movie. but i really do appreciate munn's dedication to psylocke, all the training she went through to be in good enough shape for the character, and her research that she's done on psylocke's history and character. i think that dedication trumps any acting issues she might have had tbh, so i like olivia munn as psylocke. i get that not everyone will agree with me, but as a big fan of psylocke that's just my two cents. :)
I think Kate Beckinsale would have been a great british Psylocke if they wanted to go that route in a movie.
timothy moore yeah I agree. Kate Beckinsale would have been great, though most people would probably hate to see her in a role where she can't fight well, since beckinsale has become primarily associated with action/fighting roles. British psylocke was an excellent telepath, but not really that effective when it came to physical combat. or at least not nearly as good as she is now with the japanese body. but did you know that Kate Beckinsale is actually part asian too? she has some Burmese in her.
I think if they decided to go with japanese psylocke (instead of the mixed race psylocke with Olivia Munn), I would probably pick a Japanese action actress like Rinko Kikuchi. I think she's a badass and with the right hairstyle and costume, she could make a good psylocke. of course there are other japanese actresses who would look the part a bit better but i think rinko's experience in action movies and martial arts would put her ahead of most other actresses.
i agree did you know she just recently got a phylocke tattoe on her arm
They might still be able to seeing as how Marvel UK still owns Elizabeth Braddock, the NON mutant, and her Brothers.
If they still do the Captain Britain thing, only rumours for now. We'll probably get a semblance of the purple haired Elizabeth. I don't mind if the TV show/movie version isn't a trope of every female ever now being some super combatant. I'd liken her more to Scarlet Witch. Using her powers to be a badass, and probably getting trounced up close. I don't even think every male should be an amazing combatant. Some people are there just for support, and add contribute in other ways. I'm a huge British Psylocke fan and write my own alternate universe version of her. I didn't add combat abilities, just expanded her Telepathy adding Technopathy. I think Kelly Brook would make a good Elizabeth Braddock, just on looks alone.
Love your videos, great channel.
Hey CE, do you think you could explain the Ultimate Nullifier? also showing key stories for and and all that good stuff? Thanks, and love your channel!
Cool series! Keep them coming
Hey Rob if you see this, it would be dope to see you make a what if story on Psylocke, but here's a small idea to run with. At first I thought it was stupid to have this convoluted backstory, but then I got to thinking:
You have Betsy and Kwannon who now have half of each other and are now psychically locked. Hence they *BOTH* identify as *Psylocke* due to the fact they're psychically locked with one another. Then in an effort to ease the psychic torture of being split, and due to the fact each of them are now identifying with this ONE identity (Psylocke), they seek to kill each other to claim the 'title'.
Psylocke has a very complex origin that went in different directions. There was much more to her than I realized, and I used to collect the X-Men, years ago. The movie version of Psylocke was presented as mercenary and an assassin, before she as a follower of Apocalypse. I loved the movie, but she should have had a much bigger role in latest X-Men movie.
While X-Men Apocalypse had a lot of flaws. I think Olivia Munn managed to convey a lot of the characters strength and emotion through body language. I could see her being a Lieutenant for Sinister in a sequel before becoming a member of the X-Men or possibly appearing in "Old Man Logan" Wolverine.
I want her and Archangel as X-Force members. Do bad things for the right reasons.
Wow, fantastic video. Thanks a lot!
8:44 I remember reading this comic back in the day.
Thank you for the great video Rob! I have a question. Can you make a video about Starlins last Thanos run? :)
I've been waiting for this one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ahhhh!!!!!
Wait....The Xmen gave their lives as a sacrifice for Forge's spell to stop the Adversary. Roma resurrected them and then gave them the Siege Perilious to use should they decide to want a new life, but it was used to keep them from being killed by the Reavers because of the "fever dream" Psylocke had of the Xmen being killed.
joe quesada I have to think hard of any changes he has made that I like in regards to xmen.....that jim lee psylocke tho is stuff of legends
Psylocke looked amazing and I could be biased because I love Olivia Munn but she definitely needed more screen time and to be more involved. Her costume was on point, the effects were fantastic but not enough screen time I thought!
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