@@chrismartinez4933 lol sure buddy, just like you’d be able to take down a bear, make an emergency landing, and would have survived the OceanGate sub implosion 😉😂
I love this game to death. Started playing it the year it released on Dreamcast and eventually ps2. I always sucked at it. I understand why everyone uses a variation of the same 6 characters.. and I agree.. but watching online matches where people use their own weird/random teams and characters that I always sucked with, scratches that mahvel itch for me. This, is slightly hard to watch, and I only have the capacity to watch the grand finals. Having said that, I’m extremely happy that this game has survived the test of time and is still beloved by so many.
You can tell that there are more old school gamers that are a part of this event, and probably been playing MVC 2 since the early dreamcast days. I can't wait to see how the new younger generation handle this game.
@@TrollCapAmericaI disagree. I have been playing this and other FG for years to know “anything” to complain if I want to. I have seen amazing players who don't use Storm and Magneto to show a difficult and great game to win. It's ok if you don't agree, I don't care. As a viewer it's just not exciting to see the same over and over again.
@@OGchallengeCommissionerI understand but as a viewer, it gets monotonous. Maybe the tournaments can implement a category where these god-tier characters are banned, to encourage the other rooster usage, idk.
I had no idea there were other streams going on, besides the main ones. There was absolutely no advertising for them, which is unfortunate. I'm sad I missed this live.
@@jumboshrimps4498 I’m thinking if they promoted as a main stage game that would get showcased maybe some OG players would join it and would help push the hype for the collection . Ppl loved that match with Wong and Snipes on stage. Just imagine if it meant something more than an exhibition
3:59 he mashed out because it has to be a specific height and combo into the tempest for the unmashable on sent and servbot did it wrong. I could tell right away as he did it.
@@cooltron You're able to mash out. The tempest dispersion pattern is affected by both player's input so if you hold an incorrect direction you won't be able to block on time.
@@xGOFORBROKEx I've been playing on a pro level since 2000 for 12 years straight. You cannot mash out of it. You're saying you can't block on time. There will be no blocking because you cant mash out of tempest. People think you can mash out of it because the opponent does it incorrectly therefore allowing you to mash out. LIke i said, magnetro and others have proven you cannot mash out of it on video.
@@cooltron I’ve seen the video by Magnetro and it’s well explained on how to mash out and what causes people not to mash out. I have no idea how you think it’s unmashable when you can mash out but sometimes you don’t get it on time. I’ve seen people mash out and still get hit because they were mashing too much.
I kinda love watching these MVC2 matches. Not because I admire players' skills, game's old-school graphics nor hype-upped audience and their reactions but the actual fact that I STILL CANNOT comprehend what the actual phuck happens during fights xD
I cant play the game but i think whats happening is they spam attacks to built meter, maneuver the chaos with dashes, and flying. Call assists to defend, attack, or counter call assists. I think they both look for an opening if they get they do those crazy combos,
Actually, there are no crazy combos, bar the occasional infinite . You're right. 90% call assists build meter, and if you get a hit cash out with supers. Rinse repeat@joey5745
Tournaments before where in the arcade the worst part of you got the pad that the joystick was malfunctioning or a button lol those where the days had a crowd after school of people watching you go at it
This is what I'll never understand about today's players. Back in the day, all resets were banned, and if you tried using them in the arcade it meant you had a death wish
Screw ratio, weird complicated rules and points.. just simply ban the god tier characters and let tournaments go on. Lets just see how that goes, i guarantee it'll make this game 1000x more hype
Definitely fun low tiers, but u dont see and appreciate in the high tier competitions is the technical side, which only players of this game understands.
what's this version? the music is not the same as the OG, weird instruments, the background textures are blurred too. Is this the capcom collection version?
What platform is the game being held on? Dreamcast? Fightcade? Or something else…? How do they ensure their modern fightstick has compatibility if it’s an old platform?
@@xGOFORBROKEx beautifully answered. Thank you. Do you think when the new MvC Collection game comes out, the scene will pivot to playing the version of MvC2 on that, possibly on PS5/4, rather than on Dreamcast? Also - is there a web page on EVO where they tell you the specific versions and platforms that are being used for the tournament?
@@TheLumaInChroma Good question! It depends on the final version when it comes out! It may be played on the PS4 (maybe PS5 due to cloud) but Dreamcast isn't bad as there are AV converters to HDMI with about 1ms delay. So, we don't need to use those big CRT. But, if Sony wants more people they will most likely use the new collection.
I freaking hate this assists of captain commando, and sentinel , all of these guys can't even perform combos and just keep running away and calling assist, that's why I hate this type of players they don't have the guts to go one vs one
You'd think for something massive like EVO they would restrict the cheese a bit, that timer countdown by Potter was super lame. I would've thrown my stick and hands at him after that Lmao
he had 1 earphone off so he can hear when the opponent touches buttons/stick on his arcade stick. don't sit opponents next to eachother, talk about budget.
If my friend havent suiced we had come and he had win this fucking devision we played this game in my house like 15 years in row smoking weed making brake to smoke more weed and play capcom snk2 ...
They really need to make a Low tier Tournament strictly, these MSP Sent CC games are boring at this point , it’s like watching early 2000 match’s again
@@1neinate0 all community are streamed by other streamers. Example this was on Tenomedia and I’ve seen about 3 other stream set up. The main games were streamed by EVO’s channel.
This marvel Vs capcom 2 looks no where close to the arcade version it’s more of the original Xbox PS2 Sega Dreamcast version that’s being overpriced on ebay I’m glad I own the marvel Vs capcom 2 arcade 1 up knowing how the arcade rom plays like glad to know how the Nintendo switch PS4 Steam version will look like before getting my copy the only way to get the original rom is by paying $600 for the arcade 1 up it’s worth my money
@@Patrick-tw7nr if you had the arcade 1 up you would understand what I’m saying arcade 1 up surprised me that I never had the arcade version on PS2 Xbox Dreamcast it’s worth $600 you wouldn’t be able to get it on mame 32 I also own arcade machines
On the Marvel collection once you get to around 300 rank, you get more and more God tier teams and you have a choice… learn a competitive team or play casual
It's absolutely disgusting that this time around, on the reboot for this game, everyone only plays top-tier characters... "Teo high level cables" had me rolling... pure gutter trash
When its mag, sent, and storm its the same reason i cant watch 3rd strike when its Yun and Chun li. Its sooo boring to watch 😴 💤 i like MVC3 except for boring ahh Zero
Sounds like you personally are going to hate any video game that you play long enough. Also complaining like that makes you sound like a little bitch lmao just go watch something else
The brackets look like trash gimmicks on all mvc games. The game has no defense and hinges on 1 footsie for a ko. kinda trash gameplay loop. Mortal Kombat Trilogy had the same gameplay loop, had a cooler footsie game, and had block on frame mechanics at least.
@@thefrankiepalmeri do you think I don’t know what a capture card is? I want to know what brand to get a 480i signal looking this clean. I’ve own several capture cards that do not pump out Dreamcast footage this clean. You do not need to type like an asshole.
I played this game when I was a high school student in JPN
It was quarter century ago
Cable was very strong
I love this game
Clockw0rk's beard game continues to be amazing.
Clearly a west coast thing - style that goes so hard it alludes the rest of the world.
I haven't watched a lot of FGC events the past ten years, it feels surreal seeing him with the beard.
That was great! That finals match up was epic! Those 2 were so evenly matched. So much skill and reflexes! Its a great time to be a MVC2 fan!
I use to play this game in Xbox and I can confidently say I would wreck these guys
@@chrismartinez4933 lol sure buddy, just like you’d be able to take down a bear, make an emergency landing, and would have survived the OceanGate sub implosion 😉😂
@@AngelYZ125 diabolical
@@chrismartinez4933 I have no reason to doubt you. There are ways to prove your claim beyond doubt.
You know the talent pool is dry when Smoothviper is making it to Evo finals.
Lol
Evo pisses me off sometimes, they don't advertise the OG tournaments.
But they sure didn't forget to fill the side tourney streams with ads. Couldn't stand that shit
How are competitors supposed to know to go there to complete then?
What's OG?
Third strike was advertised a lot? Same with street fighter hyper 2?
Maybe because marvel is just an American game?
"advertise"? If you can't figure it out at this point on your own then you're not a fan of the game
I remember the time i go to the arcade All i can hear every minute storm shouting "HOAH HOAH HOAH HOAH HOAH HOAH" 😂
I love this game to death. Started playing it the year it released on Dreamcast and eventually ps2.
I always sucked at it.
I understand why everyone uses a variation of the same 6 characters.. and I agree..
but watching online matches where people use their own weird/random teams and characters that I always sucked with, scratches that mahvel itch for me.
This, is slightly hard to watch, and I only have the capacity to watch the grand finals. Having said that, I’m extremely happy that this game has survived the test of time and is still beloved by so many.
Man smoothviper plays clean, always has. Didn't know he had an msp
Yeah he been played MSP a long time ago. I’d say maybe like mid 2000’s like maybe 2007 he started playing it.
You can tell that there are more old school gamers that are a part of this event, and probably been playing MVC 2 since the early dreamcast days. I can't wait to see how the new younger generation handle this game.
I love this game! It’s hard to believe it has 56 playable characters when in competitions everyone plays with almost the same teams.
They ain't all playable in competition/serious matches......it's just how the game is
People who know anything about fighting games know why that is and dont complain
@@TrollCapAmericaI disagree. I have been playing this and other FG for years to know “anything” to complain if I want to. I have seen amazing players who don't use Storm and Magneto to show a difficult and great game to win. It's ok if you don't agree, I don't care. As a viewer it's just not exciting to see the same over and over again.
@@OGchallengeCommissionerI understand but as a viewer, it gets monotonous. Maybe the tournaments can implement a category where these god-tier characters are banned, to encourage the other rooster usage, idk.
@@Jackdaw_monedula Which you cant name specifically because they dont exist
I had no idea there were other streams going on, besides the main ones. There was absolutely no advertising for them, which is unfortunate. I'm sad I missed this live.
48:57 lmao at Josh getting paid by Clockw0rk in the background after Grand Finals. Big ol smile looooool
Awesome matches/commentary! This is the game that made EVO!
19:00 I SEE YOU CLOCKWORK, with that beard you looking like a wise sage, like Raiden trying to blend in amongst us mere mortals
😂
He's on his Sifu Pei Mei vibe!
Locdown is my favorite player to watch.
Should’ve been main stage ngl … didn’t know this even happened
Smoothviper and Potter in grand finals? No disrespect, but MVC2 is dead
@@jumboshrimps4498 I’m thinking if they promoted as a main stage game that would get showcased maybe some OG players would join it and would help push the hype for the collection . Ppl loved that match with Wong and Snipes on stage. Just imagine if it meant something more than an exhibition
@@jumboshrimps4498definitely not.=)
Why would this be a main stage game?
There needs to be a high level play tournament with a big prize pool that has magneto, psylocke, sentinel, commando and storm banned from play.
And cable. BS infinite hyper viper anybody can pull off even my 12 yr old cousin.
3:59 he mashed out because it has to be a specific height and combo into the tempest for the unmashable on sent and servbot did it wrong. I could tell right away as he did it.
The only way he will get unmashable is with Psylocke into tempest. It’s harder to mash out with sentinel than other characters.
@@xGOFORBROKEx No. What I am saying is, if done correctly with all the right stipulations, you cannot mash out of it. It’s been proven already.
@@cooltron You're able to mash out. The tempest dispersion pattern is affected by both player's input so if you hold an incorrect direction you won't be able to block on time.
@@xGOFORBROKEx I've been playing on a pro level since 2000 for 12 years straight. You cannot mash out of it. You're saying you can't block on time. There will be no blocking because you cant mash out of tempest. People think you can mash out of it because the opponent does it incorrectly therefore allowing you to mash out. LIke i said, magnetro and others have proven you cannot mash out of it on video.
@@cooltron I’ve seen the video by Magnetro and it’s well explained on how to mash out and what causes people not to mash out. I have no idea how you think it’s unmashable when you can mash out but sometimes you don’t get it on time. I’ve seen people mash out and still get hit because they were mashing too much.
The no vocals of that mod is weirding me out XD. (But then there's vocals on the Ice Raft?)
I thought I was the only one. Like just hearing no vocals is bugging me tf out😭😭
The Daytime Ship was using the OG theme so there's still vocal SFX in there. I'm still singing along lol
Locdown is pretty funny and also knowledgeable of the game haha 😅
Good commentary
And Roundhouse did in fact take Smoothviper's money
I kinda love watching these MVC2 matches. Not because I admire players' skills, game's old-school graphics nor hype-upped audience and their reactions but the actual fact that I STILL CANNOT comprehend what the actual phuck happens during fights xD
I cant play the game but i think whats happening is they spam attacks to built meter, maneuver the chaos with dashes, and flying. Call assists to defend, attack, or counter call assists. I think they both look for an opening if they get they do those crazy combos,
Actually, there are no crazy combos, bar the occasional infinite . You're right. 90% call assists build meter, and if you get a hit cash out with supers. Rinse repeat@joey5745
I agree with the narrator making it clear he didn't approve of Potter just running away for a whole minute.
As a new player, that shit is so lame lol.
Where's Cable Guy when you need him? 🤣
il est très fort ce jeu, ça donne envie de l'avoir encore 😘
Glad to see the Start button didn't win the tournament this time around.
Boy,, I WISH somebody would throw a MKTRILOGY 64 TOURNAMENT!
Very unique team magneto storm sentinal
Yipes Wong and Thrax: * Don't enter because they'd body everybody *
Can't forget sanford
Ughh no! 🤦🏽♂️
@@lmfz4800 who do you think hes talking about when he mentioned Thrax? lol
@@lmfz4800Sanford aka Santhrax
@kcidd12 haha I always thought sanford kelly and santhrax were two different ppl bc nobody puts his name as thrax at events
What if they put "character ban" in competitive mvc2 in the future? It could really change the meta
Tournaments before where in the arcade the worst part of you got the pad that the joystick was malfunctioning or a button lol those where the days had a crowd after school of people watching you go at it
is the music live?
Love me some Thrax, Scrub, MSS and MSP. Mvc2 the 🐐
Is the servbot I always see in JMCrofts twitch streams all the time? I was expecting him to look different
Yeah there’s only one guy named servbot.
This is what I'll never understand about today's players. Back in the day, all resets were banned, and if you tried using them in the arcade it meant you had a death wish
What are resets?
I thought my Playback speed was at 1.5 again... It wasn't lol!
I can't wait to start training in this game and I 👀 there's No X-Factor mechanics
Let ..go...baby... juggernaut, colossus, cable gonna be my main
You're going to get smoked unmercifully.
This music! o.O
Cable/Commado are best of friends.
Custom mix or new music for mvc2
No Khaos on This EVO?
Congrats to Smoothviper 2024
Amazing 1:57
This would be the best mvc series ever i say. Movement is much fluid than the mvc3 and infinite series
I'd love to see an official ratio tournament at Evo for MvS2
Screw ratio, weird complicated rules and points.. just simply ban the god tier characters and let tournaments go on. Lets just see how that goes, i guarantee it'll make this game 1000x more hype
@@extremepop324 Yeah watching Omega Red beat everyone superjumping and mashing Heavy will be great fun to watch
Definitely fun low tiers, but u dont see and appreciate in the high tier competitions is the technical side, which only players of this game understands.
That was some good ass marvel!
Love this game
Came for the mvc2 music
what version of mvc2 are these gents playing. i ask because of rematch feature im sure they say it in video at some point but i skipped around
I believe it’s a modded rom of the dreamcast version running on Dreamcast or pc,
it's called mvc2 t.e. tournament edition it's on fightcade as well free
@@stackbundles2663 awesome
crazy how noel and erik got into that fist fight in 2011 and both won evo this year
It was more like a bionic arm
Is that J360 and Clockwork?
yah, and combofiend is behind Clockwork. . next to big Wes.
Sad I missed this live but again no advertisements 🤷🏾♂️
shoutouts to the dudes in the back doing karate @45:02
Why aren't the announcers playing, they're both godlike. Also where's Khaos?
Prob eliminated
Khaos only shows up for locals or online he don't go to big events
@@hotzauhse legit got second at fight kingdom not too long ago
Laverna Ridge
need that smoothviper vs roundhouse FT15
Smooth viper technically won but because he reset the game before the KO came up on screen, roundhouse took the W
Mirror match... grand finals... top tier characters... O; 8==D~
Did Khaos get knocked out? Or was he not there?
Khaos retired from tourney play. At least that’s what he said on his channel and after his final tournament earlier this year.
@@cooltron crazy. How well has he done at tournaments?
@@elvistwatty doesnt he just win them all
he wa snot there because he doesn't care about tournament play anymore. he still plays online whenever you can catch him on there.
@@1neinate0Nope.
what's this version? the music is not the same as the OG, weird instruments, the background textures are blurred too. Is this the capcom collection version?
No this was on a Dreamcast
Dreamcast version didn't sound like this.
@@epicnerf1 I was there, they were playing on Dreamcast
@@rocketman3652Was it a modified version? There's no way this was stock.
Ah wait! I just noticed. They have that rematch dialogue at the end. It's modded, but I didn't know those run natively on dreamcast. That's so cool!
If Psylocke caught Sentinel in that air combo and hit him with the Psy Butterfly special Psylocke would have won.
Es jugo es tan viejo que como caudo yo lo jugaba el las makinas en secundaria. Y cuando tenía Pley 2
What platform is the game being held on? Dreamcast? Fightcade? Or something else…? How do they ensure their modern fightstick has compatibility if it’s an old platform?
Dreamcast w/ Brook Converters.
This is on the dreamcast! Also, there are boards for old retro or you can use a brooks converter if you wish to use your PS4/PS5 stick.
@@xGOFORBROKEx beautifully answered. Thank you. Do you think when the new MvC Collection game comes out, the scene will pivot to playing the version of MvC2 on that, possibly on PS5/4, rather than on Dreamcast? Also - is there a web page on EVO where they tell you the specific versions and platforms that are being used for the tournament?
@@TheLumaInChroma Good question! It depends on the final version when it comes out! It may be played on the PS4 (maybe PS5 due to cloud) but Dreamcast isn't bad as there are AV converters to HDMI with about 1ms delay. So, we don't need to use those big CRT. But, if Sony wants more people they will most likely use the new collection.
They using MAS sticks
That’s what an EVO championship looks like!?😮 I guess non of the elites participated 🤷🏻♂️
names are switched in the description of servbot vs msp
Woo!
I freaking hate this assists of captain commando, and sentinel , all of these guys can't even perform combos and just keep running away and calling assist, that's why I hate this type of players they don't have the guts to go one vs one
we need evo mvc2 lowtier tournament
The commentators’ headset brand please 🙏
I wanna internet them out of curiosity. 🧐
You'd think for something massive like EVO they would restrict the cheese a bit, that timer countdown by Potter was super lame. I would've thrown my stick and hands at him after that Lmao
Viper is like Justin wong😂😂
he had 1 earphone off so he can hear when the opponent touches buttons/stick on his arcade stick. don't sit opponents next to eachother, talk about budget.
If my friend havent suiced we had come and he had win this fucking devision we played this game in my house like 15 years in row smoking weed making brake to smoke more weed and play capcom snk2 ...
Don't do drugs lol😂
I want to see YIPES play
When's the release date 51:22
They really need to make a Low tier Tournament strictly, these MSP Sent CC games are boring at this point , it’s like watching early 2000 match’s again
WHY WAS THIS NOT ON THE STREAM!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!??!?!??!
It was streamed on Friday. It started at 6pm PST on tenomedia.
yeah they streamed the community events i saw sf5 as well, ITS PROB NOT ON THE MAIN STREAM BECAUSE OF ENTRY NUMBERS AND VIEWERSHIP !
@@1neinate0 all community are streamed by other streamers. Example this was on Tenomedia and I’ve seen about 3 other stream set up. The main games were streamed by EVO’s channel.
@@xGOFORBROKEx i know i saw sf5 by 10/0 i was replying to the all caps commenter
This marvel Vs capcom 2 looks no where close to the arcade version it’s more of the original Xbox PS2 Sega Dreamcast version that’s being overpriced on ebay I’m glad I own the marvel Vs capcom 2 arcade 1 up knowing how the arcade rom plays like glad to know how the Nintendo switch PS4 Steam version will look like before getting my copy the only way to get the original rom is by paying $600 for the arcade 1 up it’s worth my money
It’s the arcade version
@@Patrick-tw7nr if you had the arcade 1 up you would understand what I’m saying arcade 1 up surprised me that I never had the arcade version on PS2 Xbox Dreamcast it’s worth $600 you wouldn’t be able to get it on mame 32 I also own arcade machines
@@bryancook6345 i have Dreamcast versions of Marvel vs Capcom and MVC 2. It is superior to 1up
O melhor jogo da marvel nen se compara
Greatest fighting game of all time ❤️🔥 still can’t believe how garbage mvc3 was smh
I wish they would play with other characters. Same characters every tournament
Capcom over cooked on those X-men
@@darkmagicianfan3423 EVO just sucks balls in general.
On the Marvel collection once you get to around 300 rank, you get more and more God tier teams and you have a choice… learn a competitive team or play casual
Are they playing on the collection? I've never seen the rematch option before.
No this a mod of the original dreamcast version
Larue Branch
Bring infinite back to evo in 2025 or a marvel fighting game
@3:46 LMAO
Where the Low tiers at? Still cant beat the META....
Logan Port
did everyone agree to wear black and white to this?
Who’s the first guy with the tats? Asking for a friend
It's absolutely disgusting that this time around, on the reboot for this game, everyone only plays top-tier characters... "Teo high level cables" had me rolling... pure gutter trash
Yo! Where’s my cousin Derek !?
Sentinel is super cheap spam character that is OP and should be banned from tournaments but Magento Psylocke and Storm are ok
Bartoletti Passage
Is there frame dropping every time Captain Commando assist lands? It seems like it compared to the dreamcast version. Anyone else notice?
On the original version on Dreamcast there are certain instances where commando lags the game.
Dreamcast slowdown. Doctor doom slows the game down too.
Ni e great moment tankx
Where is Khaos
He retired from going around the country and competing. he only does local and online tournaments.
It's pretty lame that top 4 is JUST MSP/Santhrax
I'd have been happy to see more Cable dead-ass.
Too bad none of the Hiryu/Doom guys made it this far.
When its mag, sent, and storm its the same reason i cant watch 3rd strike when its Yun and Chun li. Its sooo boring to watch 😴 💤 i like MVC3 except for boring ahh Zero
Sounds like you personally are going to hate any video game that you play long enough. Also complaining like that makes you sound like a little bitch lmao just go watch something else
Typical “I love the game but I hate bc of X characters” so original😴💤
The brackets look like trash gimmicks on all mvc games. The game has no defense and hinges on 1 footsie for a ko. kinda trash gameplay loop. Mortal Kombat Trilogy had the same gameplay loop, had a cooler footsie game, and had block on frame mechanics at least.
yt comments when the competitors playing to win play to win:
Ironman is usually in the mix
Hilma Neck
Is this captured off a Dreamcast? What is the tech to make this look so good?
MvC collection
Capture cards. Not new.
@@thefrankiepalmeri do you think I don’t know what a capture card is? I want to know what brand to get a 480i signal looking this clean. I’ve own several capture cards that do not pump out Dreamcast footage this clean. You do not need to type like an asshole.
You use a capture card just like streamers who stream online.
DCHDMI