I live 2000 ft above sea level and I hate to break everyone's heart but the new 2.7T 4 banger pulls my trailer better than my 5.3l 2019 new body 8 speed, I'm not a believer in boosted engines in trucks but I just can't believe it.
Forced induction does crazy things man, its even cooler on disels because they can really multipuly it. Think of a 4cl dmax with two turbos standard on a trailboss
Just made a nice dodge v8 hemi sit I dident win tbh but it was tied and if I would of turned ac off and break boosted the turbo and turned 4wd on I think I would of pulled him. But my buddy talking endless shit in the passenger seat about the 4 banger with a turbo being slow af definitely got real quiet. Gotta love it. A engine is a engine it’s all about design and functionality there are tractors that pull 16k and have v6s it’s all about how the thing performs. Size does not always matter but it sure can help when done right if chevy put a turbo in the v8 it would perform better then 4 banger turbocharged but the boosted 4 banger comes for the regular v8s neck silent but deadly. I think at higher speeds the hemi might of pulled on me thoe but the quickness of the 2.7 is a god damn thing of beauty if feels more responsive then you would ever imagine. Also at the gm proving grounds the 2.7 lived longer then all there v8s.
Traded in my C6 for a new 2021 2.7T crew cab in Feb 2021. And I've never been happier. I absolutely love this truck. All the haters will continue being haters. No use in attempting to change thier minds on this engine option because they believe displacement is everything.
I have the 4cyl in a crew cab Custom 2WD. Other than sounding like a Camry on take off, the motor isn't bad but the lag is definitely noticeable. I traded in my Ford F150 crew with the 2.7 twin turbo ecoboost. Quickness is night and day between the two trucks. The torque is good but don't pull out in font of someone. MPG is very good. I'm 26 on the hwy (with a/c 75mph) and 17-18 in town with easy starts. Haven't towed yet but I would think most people will be happy. I'd buy it again
Sorry but based on it's rating I was hoping this would be in the 30s on highway ... and I'm not hating on this cause it's Ok 'ish ... but not really much better than my 4x4 '18 ram that could pull 25 - 27mpg all day long on the 180mile r/t I did 3x times a week ( 5ft elevation to almost 2,000ft elevation and back ) honestly I was more impressed with the 5.3 and it's 24mpg on same run ( 2wd RCLB )
@@PKDesigns2011 😂 so much bullshit in this post.. no way ur ram got that kind of milage 😅😅 I hate how ppl think they get that kind of mpg qith a v8😅😅 dude u dont.
I own a 2013 Ford King Ranch with the 3.5 ecoboost v6. 213,000 miles no issues. Carbon build up is for grandma's that never stomp down on the throttle. I'm a mechanic and am so far happy with it.
These power numbers are better than my 08 & 13 5.3L versions! Personally i like the shifter handle on the dash, the cloth seats, and the tan color as well as off road capabilities... This would be a killer work or farm truck! Id buy it for $30-$35.
I recently got a LT with the 2.7 back in August. I have no complaints with it. Only reason I didn't get a trail boss was because I wanted the lowest msrp truck with the most options. I'll take the heated seats, duel climate control and extra steering wheel control all day over a 2" suspension lift I can add on if I really feel the need. I also really prefer the 8sp Trans over a 10. Had a 10 sp in my 17 f150 and it was always trying to figure out what gear to be in. 8sp is just right. Hell if you keep the 2.7 running consistently around 1500-1800rpm I've been. Getting around 22-26mpg with it. My favorite part about my truck is the steering wheel controls for the audio. Engineered flawlessly.
You and I got the same truck around the same time. Agree on all counts. The only thing I wish it had was blind spot and rear parking sensors, but you couldn’t find any on trucks in this price range because of the chip shortage.
They should have kept the steering wheel controls from the safety and confidence package. Instead they went cheap and tossed them and the larger information screen in the gauge cluster . You’re paying more than 4K on the base price you’d think they would have kept them. I know they kept all the safety stuff and added the inteli beam auto high beams . But now it will always look cheap and for $48,700 you are spending a lot of money.
I'm really trying to like the 2.7L turbo four . Its impressive they are putting out the power of a V8 but since it also has the gas mileage of a V8 I don't understand why anyone would purchase the complex 4 cyl over the v8.
How is that super BASIC stripped down truck $50,000!!!!!!????? They are are out their minds! That’s a nice $35,000 truck that would sell like hot cakes under $40k. That price is wack. Gotta be nuts to pay that.
I have had a gen1 2.7 gmc sierra for 2 years now. 45k miles. Zero issues. 21.8 mpg average. From my experience, this engine is not underpowered, and will be an incredible off road option. The torque power band comes so low in RPMs it’s amazing. I got the $1,500 discount, and the dealer added more because they could not sell this engine. It will be a beast in the trail boss, but an outright monster in the Colorado/Canyon platforms. Light truck, light engine, 430 lbs of torque at 2000rpms. Doesn’t get much better than that.
Bought a new '23 Custom crew cab 4wd 2.7 turbo recently. $50,500 sticker. Paid $36,800. 5.3 = 383 ft lbs torque - - - 2.7 turbo = 430 ft lbs torque. Built like a diesel to handle 22 psi of intercooled turbo boost on 87 octane fuel. Same tow rating & payload of 5.3, but $6,000 less. Savings paid for my 1st 40,000 miles of gasoline. Love it.
@@ews360 congrats on the purchase price! I bought mine for about $33k out the door back in 2019. It’s paid off now, 85k in miles, 20.9 lifelong mpg. Not a single issue. I hope you have a similar experience, at this price point I would definitely buy it again!
@@FradyKatt almost 5 years of ownership. 85k miles. Not a single engine issue so far. 20.9 lifetime fuel economy, and I paid way less for the truck compared to a v8. Keep watching old marbarro man and “like a rock” Chevy commercials for me. I need demand to be low so I can get a bunch of discounts when I buy another one.
The 4 cylinder ecoboost is excellent in a midsize truck like the ranger, as long as you’re not towing a ton of weight and driving it like it’s a race car. However, a full-size truck is just too much for an engine like this. My ranger gets about 23 mpg, the fact that this thing gets 16 mpg tells me it’s going to be too stressed and will probably not last 100k miles.
Yeah 16 MPG if your driving it rough these get 19-22 mpg depending on how you drive I’ve already seen a few videos people accomplishing this but nice try tho.
I like the base entry level concept, GM please include leather wrapped steering wheel, heated seats and sliding rear glass as standard or a $1000 option. To cold in MN winters not to have heated seats for nearly $50k
I agree. I lived in ND for 6 years. Getting -20F without the windchill was unnerving sometimes. Heated seats definitely help! I remember windy days with -40 to -60 windchill. So glad I don't live there any more!
@Austin TA I agree. I watched a grown ass man review one of the first revamped 2022 Tundras and all he did was whine about the heated steering wheel not working and something about the aps not syncing with his phone. People complain about the price of trucks today, but gotta have the auto-butt warmer, hand warmer, automatic braking/steering/starting/lane departure/ 30 cameras/apple car play.
Personally I love the 2.7 engine. I don't understand all the flack it gets. 310 hp and 430tq!!! People rave about how awesome the 3.0 Duramax that only has 277hp and 460tq the "little" 2.7 makes 33 hp more and almost the same tq (just 30lbs less) All available from 1500-4000rpm That's quite literally diesel numbers. There's even a comment on here about how they should put the 2.8 duramax 4cyl in this truck. That thing is a slug in the colorado compared the the 2.7 turbo in a silverado. But because it's a diesel it gets all the praise. This is a great option for a truck and makes impressive power. Additionally, if you don't care about the new front end, you can buy a 2022 LTD custom trail boss with the 6.2 for $51000 Now that's a deal for a budget off-roader.
Very low MPG for a 4-cylinder; kinda defeats the purpose? I personally prefer at least a solid V6; smoother and with more natural torque... And it'll probably last longer.
You can only get so much energy out of a gallon of gas. I think the real driver behind this is stricter emissions in the future. I think one day, manufacturers will no longer be allowed to make large displacement V-8s. The writing is on the wall.
I'm perfectly fine with the 4 cylinder aspect. My semi tractor hauls around 90k lbs with just six cylinders, so the number of cylinders doesn't make a difference to me. To me the milage just isn't there enough to warrant me getting one. If it'd run with the 3.0L babymax mileage wise, I'd get one in a heartbeat.
Correct. That's why it's rated to tow 9,000 lbs, w/ gasoline cubic inches, not 90,000 lbs. If it was based on diesel cubic inches, it would be rated for 18,000 lbs?
As a suggestion you may want to consider videoing a portion of your test drive/review on the highway at typical highway speeds with your comments. I think for myself, I'd love to know how quiet a particular vehicle may be on those higher-speed surfaces.
Nice but only with the 5.3 or 6 2 for me. There is a reason that GM is paying you $1500 to buy it over a v8,not many people want a 4cyl. They have to give a price break to get rid of them.
I'd like to see the tuning capability. Turbocharged engines are much easier to tune out for significant power or fuel economy increases. Also it'll have a significant weight advantage off road. Won't sink as much in the mud.
I've owned a few GM products and I'm not hating cause this motor is ok-ish ... but I just feel this motor is gonna be pushed extra hard to keep this moving ... the 5.3 can do similar mpg with less effort and if ya lucky to get one put together right it be a better option ( key hint on put together right *** )
Awesome looking truck. I love that color. Im not sure I would get the Turbo4 unless it was around $40k. And why the hell is the 8 speed even an option anymore. Every engine should be mated to the 10 speed.
They are just Variable Speed Transmission's. They have a partial steel belt On two Pullies. It raises and lowers upon commands from the valve body. It's going to be interesting. Nissan had this Problem with their Jatco transmission. But people are going To have to do something.
@@jeremygregory7178 i think ur missing the obvious here. My point is that if people are willing to settle for these absurd prices, then they are continuing the problem. These vehicles have so many issues and are built with questionable quality but people think 40k is ok. No. Its not. Houses once used to be 40k. Now a depreciating asset is this much? Ita insane. Stop buying vehicles unless u can afford 48 months AT ABSOLUTE MOST worth of finance.
@@dr._breens_beard I get what you are saying but that’s where we are at right now. I agree 40k for a pretty work truck that should be 30k max is crazy. Kind of like a 200k house that should be around 140k. Prices of everything are going up and up but wages are not. Even used cars are crazy priced. Any truck in good shape and less than 100k miles is still 30 grand. For anyone that makes average wages and has a mortgage it’s pretty hard to finance a vehicle for only 48 months.
The only good thing about the 2.7 turbo is that it still has a normal engine belt and not the stretchy belt for the accessories and ac belt on the 5.3 and 6.2
I know this is a chevy review. With that said, I drive a 2018 F150 with the 2.7L ecoboost. I Won't go back to a NA V8 truck. There is to much efficiency left on the table. When a V8 powered truck can make 420 pound feet of torque at 1500 rpm and still get 25 mpg at 70 mph I'll buy one. Until then trucks and turbos go together like peanut butter and jelly.
@@Ghidorah00 check back in when you hit about 150k miles. I doubt most of the 4 bangers will make it that far. 150k was MAYBE midlife for the 800 series. They were just getting broken in by that point.
@@glenhalstead2301 fingers crossed it holds together for 150k! Anything can happen of course, but it truly doesn’t feel like the engine is working hard considering how big the vehicle is. I am cautiously optimistic that this engine is going to be a big winner.
I went to see these in person. I laughed at the fact that for $5k more you get an LT 2022 Trail Boss with the NEW interior. Where for this 2022 Custom Trail Boss you get not only stuck with the OLD interior but a 4 cylinder?! Who to blame? GM for sending out vehicle that are missing features and not up to par engines?! Or dealerships overpriced sticker prices for these things?! Anything over $45k to $50k and it's a 4 cylinder, do not care if it's a truck or car, that's insane and dealers know that too and act clumsy towards us when attempting to negotiate.
I bought a 22 LT with a 5.3L , the 5.3L seems like an old friend that never needed repairs of any kind in my previous trucks. They made millions of them over the years. I like it.
Kicking myself a bit for not buying a V8 Custom Trail Boss 2 years ago when they were available in the low 40's and had identical interior. $50,000 truck with a plastic steering wheel SMH
i cant wait until chevy offers this engine as a crate option with everything needed to swap into older models that is smog legal in 50 states like their connect and cruise packages
Right now there's a dealer with a 2022 Trail Boss not the refreshed interior but they want 46K for it. It has the 5.3L in it. I'd probably go for it for the price over this which has the 2.7L
310hp and 430lb of Torque. Isnt that more than the v6 4.3 Chevy retired? And it almost matches the 5.3. I think a lot of peple hate on it JUST because it has 4 cylinders before they even understand the tech or what Chevy can squeeze out of an engine this size.
This would be a cool upgrade from my ‘03 Silverado. I wouldn’t mind the 2.7. Off the bat it is way more powerful than my old 5.3. But @ $50k, i’d have to wait to save up.
Great video as usual! How does this refreshed custom trailboss with the 2.7 feel as compared to the previous custom trailboss you tested with that older 2.7? Is the increased torque really noticeable?
@@iandl9147 This is not the refreshed custom trail boss though. I think the way you have it worded just sounds odd. No worries. Yea, when you say a refreshed custom trail boss, that would mean the updated interior. It is not really the trail boss either, it is update on the 1/2 ton trim models also. It is not a trail boss refresh really. Trail boss is just a added package.
@@calebniederhofer6529 This is the refreshed trail boss...but in custom trim...not the lt trim with the new interior . The refreshed trail boss..custom and Lt both have the updated 2.7 turbo, but only the LT has the updated interior. It does have the new 2.7
The 430 ft/lb rating is only on the refreshed 2022 2.7t trucks which also have the new interior. My source told me if you see the new interior on a 2022 and it's got the 2.7 you'll know it has the updated engine.
You cannot convince me a vehicle of this size and weight with a 4 Cyl Turbo is sufficient for the long term being 60K plus miles even when we’ll maintained under the best of circumstances. GM knows exactly what they are doing which is kicking back waiting for us to buy another one after this ridiculous monstrosity falls apart.
If they fall apart at 60k that’s not a good biz model they would start losing money. It can tow 9600 you don’t think it can pull its own weight for 60k ,lies.
A 2wd RCSB WT specs out at about that price but it looks like you'd have to try and order/wait for it. It's a pretty plain truck for that money. I considered replacing my 2007 RCSB 5.3 3.73 with one of these but it doesn't seem like they want to sell them very badly.
I’m obsessed with these trucks and I’ve been looking for one in white. As someone who mainly wants it for a daily driver who does around 20-25k miles per year would you recommend it ??
Wait...did that actually come with rear fender liners? They usually don't. But it should be standard in all trucks. That's nice. Is the acceleration comparable to the v8? That's what I'd like to know.
Nice review Ben. yes its no frill inside, I like it since it reminds me of the Frontier and as you know a lot of people knock and call it cheap with the plastic and not much technology .Ben I agree with you on this review and I probably wouldn't take this off road.
kinda eh on this truck on the insides of it... its targeted at first time truck buyers who want to look like they offroad but keep it on pavement. I think the 4 banger is a crime...great review ben.
I almost bought a truck with a 2.7. I almost threw up on my way to pick it up. I changed my mind and bought a GMC sierra with a 6.2. Wow! That was a close one.
put a diesel 3 liter 6cyl with 310 hp in it with a extended cab regular bed or long bed then i mite think about buying one...witha brown and medium and dark tan interior and maybe a crisp popping metallic pearl green paint job
This truck has almost 50 ft lbs of more torque than the 5.3, but everyone is saying "BuT tHeRe'S nO rEPlAcEmEnT FoR DiSpLaCeMeNt, iT's NoT A 5.3 Or 6.2; dUrR DuRr duRR. ThEy tUrK Ur JeRbS".
The turn on sound cracks me up. It sounds lie a 1980 datsun. Gm should have made us all comfortable and kept the 4..3 and add a turbo. the 2.7 doesnt seem like its saving much gas. Im getting 22mpg with my 2001 silverado
It's not that the 4 banger isn't capable, it's that it's working so hard and under constant boost to achieve what's needed that larger engines do better naturally. There is such a thing as being TOO small and this is right on that edge. Couple that with the notorious 8 speed transmission, yikes. Seriously, how is this unreliable junk and garbage torque converter still allowed to be sold? Good luck on 100k+ reliable miles.
I know someone who bought a brand new 2021 Silverado 4 cylinder turbo. And he gets NO better gas mileage than what I get in my 2002 GMC Sierra 5.3. so what's even the point to get the 4 cylinder to have a turbo? Well one day I'll have a turbo also...
The Four Cylinder Engine Is going to be the new norm. A small Motor With A big turbo. The Problem Is People are going to be having a lot of warranty issues due to blown Motors. People Can't keep their foot out of them. 40 to 50,000 Seems like A lot¡
I have a 2019 custom trail boss and would absolutely kill to have that console space on my bench seat! Does anybody know if this seat would be a direct fit in a 2019??
Testing 4wd in dry paved lot Rediculous sharp turning in such condition will bind the 4wd use Awd 2wd mode only dry must be wet or snow dirt mud or straight driving highway 4wd use
"The affordable, entry level off-road truck for right around $50,000..." What kind of world are we living in and how do we get the old one back?
C’mon man, you can finance for 120 months! LOL
@@travisp11 🤣🤣
Exactly, they can keep it.
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Yea... that much for a junk 4 popper, I'll pass. Tacoma over this easy.
I have a 2020 rally edition And Im very impressed and love it.
The turbo you can feel the power.Just love my truck.
I live 2000 ft above sea level and I hate to break everyone's heart but the new 2.7T 4 banger pulls my trailer better than my 5.3l 2019 new body 8 speed, I'm not a believer in boosted engines in trucks but I just can't believe it.
Forced induction does crazy things man, its even cooler on disels because they can really multipuly it. Think of a 4cl dmax with two turbos standard on a trailboss
I feel the same with my 2022 f150 3.5 eco boost
Just made a nice dodge v8 hemi sit I dident win tbh but it was tied and if I would of turned ac off and break boosted the turbo and turned 4wd on I think I would of pulled him. But my buddy talking endless shit in the passenger seat about the 4 banger with a turbo being slow af definitely got real quiet. Gotta love it. A engine is a engine it’s all about design and functionality there are tractors that pull 16k and have v6s it’s all about how the thing performs. Size does not always matter but it sure can help when done right if chevy put a turbo in the v8 it would perform better then 4 banger turbocharged but the boosted 4 banger comes for the regular v8s neck silent but deadly. I think at higher speeds the hemi might of pulled on me thoe but the quickness of the 2.7 is a god damn thing of beauty if feels more responsive then you would ever imagine. Also at the gm proving grounds the 2.7 lived longer then all there v8s.
Traded in my C6 for a new 2021 2.7T crew cab in Feb 2021. And I've never been happier. I absolutely love this truck. All the haters will continue being haters. No use in attempting to change thier minds on this engine option because they believe displacement is everything.
From what I watch and read this engine is totally amazing and gets the job done with no problem.
We just bought tonight the 2023 just like this one. I'm an a 350 man but I'm impressed so far fingers crossed.
Hearing that engine startup reminded me that I need to change the oil in my weed wacker this season.
LOL
It reminds me consumers are not getting what we pay for.
Ha Ha you're right!
Lmao
I have the 4cyl in a crew cab Custom 2WD. Other than sounding like a Camry on take off, the motor isn't bad but the lag is definitely noticeable. I traded in my Ford F150 crew with the 2.7 twin turbo ecoboost. Quickness is night and day between the two trucks. The torque is good but don't pull out in font of someone. MPG is very good. I'm 26 on the hwy (with a/c 75mph) and 17-18 in town with easy starts. Haven't towed yet but I would think most people will be happy. I'd buy it again
Sorry but based on it's rating I was hoping this would be in the 30s on highway ... and I'm not hating on this cause it's Ok 'ish ... but not really much better than my 4x4 '18 ram that could pull 25 - 27mpg all day long on the 180mile r/t I did 3x times a week ( 5ft elevation to almost 2,000ft elevation and back ) honestly I was more impressed with the 5.3 and it's 24mpg on same run ( 2wd RCLB )
@@PKDesigns2011 😂 so much bullshit in this post.. no way ur ram got that kind of milage 😅😅 I hate how ppl think they get that kind of mpg qith a v8😅😅 dude u dont.
@@PKDesigns2011 except RAMs look like crap
I own a 2013 Ford King Ranch with the 3.5 ecoboost v6. 213,000 miles no issues. Carbon build up is for grandma's that never stomp down on the throttle. I'm a mechanic and am so far happy with it.
Gotta give the Italian Tune-up and clean it out.👍
How many miles do you have on the odometer right now? Any issues?
These power numbers are better than my 08 & 13 5.3L versions! Personally i like the shifter handle on the dash, the cloth seats, and the tan color as well as off road capabilities... This would be a killer work or farm truck! Id buy it for $30-$35.
I recently got a LT with the 2.7 back in August. I have no complaints with it. Only reason I didn't get a trail boss was because I wanted the lowest msrp truck with the most options. I'll take the heated seats, duel climate control and extra steering wheel control all day over a 2" suspension lift I can add on if I really feel the need. I also really prefer the 8sp Trans over a 10. Had a 10 sp in my 17 f150 and it was always trying to figure out what gear to be in. 8sp is just right. Hell if you keep the 2.7 running consistently around 1500-1800rpm I've been. Getting around 22-26mpg with it. My favorite part about my truck is the steering wheel controls for the audio. Engineered flawlessly.
You and I got the same truck around the same time. Agree on all counts. The only thing I wish it had was blind spot and rear parking sensors, but you couldn’t find any on trucks in this price range because of the chip shortage.
Have you towed with it yet?
@@nspgreen If you need blind spot stuff, you don't need a truck sized vehicle...
What octane r u running?
4 cyl diesel for 40-45k could be a different story
They should have kept the steering wheel controls from the safety and confidence package. Instead they went cheap and tossed them and the larger information screen in the gauge cluster . You’re paying more than 4K on the base price you’d think they would have kept them. I know they kept all the safety stuff and added the inteli beam auto high beams . But now it will always look cheap and for $48,700 you are spending a lot of money.
I'm really trying to like the 2.7L turbo four . Its impressive they are putting out the power of a V8 but since it also has the gas mileage of a V8 I don't understand why anyone would purchase the complex 4 cyl over the v8.
buy the turbo with low mpg if you are a nitwit.. turbo tin won't be worth squat at 100k miles.
It get v8 mpg in city but on the highway it does great! I have 2.7 and it 22-23mpg at 72mph. At 67mph is the sweet point where 26 mpg meets mph.
You don’t get the low end torque out of the 5.3 compared to this. It is all preference, and needs.
Traded in my Jetta for a 3.6 Colorado and absolutely love the power to mpg ratio, would never want to go back to a turbo
@@calebniederhofer6529 Yes you do...
How is that super BASIC stripped down truck $50,000!!!!!!????? They are are out their minds! That’s a nice $35,000 truck that would sell like hot cakes under $40k. That price is wack. Gotta be nuts to pay that.
That's the prob....everything is 50k....that's a 35k truck all day
For some reason people keep paying these crazy prices
I have had a gen1 2.7 gmc sierra for 2 years now. 45k miles. Zero issues. 21.8 mpg average.
From my experience, this engine is not underpowered, and will be an incredible off road option. The torque power band comes so low in RPMs it’s amazing. I got the $1,500 discount, and the dealer added more because they could not sell this engine. It will be a beast in the trail boss, but an outright monster in the Colorado/Canyon platforms. Light truck, light engine, 430 lbs of torque at 2000rpms. Doesn’t get much better than that.
Yea it does get Better V8 That 4 banger will not Pan out 3 years from now it will be gone....
@@FradyKatt It’s been around for 5 years so far and gaining popularity so I doubt it will be gone in 3, we shall see.
Bought a new '23 Custom crew cab 4wd 2.7 turbo recently. $50,500 sticker. Paid $36,800. 5.3 = 383 ft lbs torque - - - 2.7 turbo = 430 ft lbs torque. Built like a diesel to handle 22 psi of intercooled turbo boost on 87 octane fuel. Same tow rating & payload of 5.3, but $6,000 less. Savings paid for my 1st 40,000 miles of gasoline. Love it.
@@ews360 congrats on the purchase price! I bought mine for about $33k out the door back in 2019. It’s paid off now, 85k in miles, 20.9 lifelong mpg. Not a single issue.
I hope you have a similar experience, at this price point I would definitely buy it again!
@@FradyKatt almost 5 years of ownership. 85k miles. Not a single engine issue so far. 20.9 lifetime fuel economy, and I paid way less for the truck compared to a v8.
Keep watching old marbarro man and “like a rock” Chevy commercials for me. I need demand to be low so I can get a bunch of discounts when I buy another one.
The 4 cylinder ecoboost is excellent in a midsize truck like the ranger, as long as you’re not towing a ton of weight and driving it like it’s a race car. However, a full-size truck is just too much for an engine like this. My ranger gets about 23 mpg, the fact that this thing gets 16 mpg tells me it’s going to be too stressed and will probably not last 100k miles.
Yeah 16 MPG if your driving it rough these get 19-22 mpg depending on how you drive I’ve already seen a few videos people accomplishing this but nice try tho.
@@Back_door_bandit_98 my 5.3 gets the same if not better
@@Back_door_bandit_98 exactly. People just dont want to accept the fact that these little engines are going to be the death of the small block v8
19-22? That motor is going to using that Hanoi Hairdryer 24/7 to move that heavy ass truck. I would believe the 16-18 is accurate.
The wife has the 4 cylinder, 2020 model year and it's getting 19.7 mpg. Decent considering mostly stop and go traffic.
I like the base entry level concept, GM please include leather wrapped steering wheel, heated seats and sliding rear glass as standard or a $1000 option. To cold in MN winters not to have heated seats for nearly $50k
I agree. I lived in ND for 6 years. Getting -20F without the windchill was unnerving sometimes. Heated seats definitely help! I remember windy days with -40 to -60 windchill. So glad I don't live there any more!
@Austin TA We were men.lol
@Austin TA I agree. I watched a grown ass man review one of the first revamped 2022 Tundras and all he did was whine about the heated steering wheel not working and something about the aps not syncing with his phone. People complain about the price of trucks today, but gotta have the auto-butt warmer, hand warmer, automatic braking/steering/starting/lane departure/ 30 cameras/apple car play.
Oh… now your dreaming! 😆😆😆
I'm a Chevy Boy but everyone here got Rams i see so many and them nissan Rouges are everywhere
I’d actually prefer the hood from the last year of this truck without that black insert/bulge what ever you call it
Personally I love the 2.7 engine. I don't understand all the flack it gets. 310 hp and 430tq!!! People rave about how awesome the 3.0 Duramax that only has 277hp and 460tq the "little" 2.7 makes 33 hp more and almost the same tq (just 30lbs less) All available from 1500-4000rpm That's quite literally diesel numbers. There's even a comment on here about how they should put the 2.8 duramax 4cyl in this truck. That thing is a slug in the colorado compared the the 2.7 turbo in a silverado. But because it's a diesel it gets all the praise. This is a great option for a truck and makes impressive power. Additionally, if you don't care about the new front end, you can buy a 2022 LTD custom trail boss with the 6.2 for $51000 Now that's a deal for a budget off-roader.
Very low MPG for a 4-cylinder; kinda defeats the purpose? I personally prefer at least a solid V6; smoother and with more natural torque... And it'll probably last longer.
Turbo 4 cyl > v6 any day
You can only get so much energy out of a gallon of gas. I think the real driver behind this is stricter emissions in the future.
I think one day, manufacturers will no longer be allowed to make large displacement V-8s. The writing is on the wall.
I just got one of this truck but is a V8, needed a truck with great power to use it for what I really want it, but I love it.
Its a nice truck, personally I'd want a bigger engine for a full size rig..
Good review overall.
I'm perfectly fine with the 4 cylinder aspect. My semi tractor hauls around 90k lbs with just six cylinders, so the number of cylinders doesn't make a difference to me. To me the milage just isn't there enough to warrant me getting one. If it'd run with the 3.0L babymax mileage wise, I'd get one in a heartbeat.
your i6 diesel is probably over 850 cubic inches. This thing is 166 cubic inches....
Correct. That's why it's rated to tow 9,000 lbs, w/ gasoline cubic inches, not 90,000 lbs. If it was based on diesel cubic inches, it would be rated for 18,000 lbs?
As a suggestion you may want to consider videoing a portion of your test drive/review on the highway at typical highway speeds with your comments. I think for myself, I'd love to know how quiet a particular vehicle may be on those higher-speed surfaces.
Nice but only with the 5.3 or 6 2 for me.
There is a reason that GM is paying you $1500 to buy it over a v8,not many people want a 4cyl. They have to give a price break to get rid of them.
If that was the case they wouldn't have made it
I'd like to see the tuning capability. Turbocharged engines are much easier to tune out for significant power or fuel economy increases. Also it'll have a significant weight advantage off road. Won't sink as much in the mud.
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They made it to meet government mandates for a required average MPG among thier fleet of vehicles.
Not for that price. If it was 10 grand less thats a different story.
5.3 and 6.2 have lifter issues.
I've owned a few GM products and I'm not hating cause this motor is ok-ish ... but I just feel this motor is gonna be pushed extra hard to keep this moving ... the 5.3 can do similar mpg with less effort and if ya lucky to get one put together right it be a better option ( key hint on put together right *** )
5.3 has lifter issues. Max torque on this one is at 2000 rpm’s so no need to rev it out.
Not charging over sticker sounds a lot like "were charging sticker and that's it. No haggling"
Awesome looking truck. I love that color. Im not sure I would get the Turbo4 unless it was around $40k. And why the hell is the 8 speed even an option anymore. Every engine should be mated to the 10 speed.
They are just Variable Speed Transmission's. They have a partial steel belt On two Pullies. It raises and lowers upon commands from the valve body. It's going to be interesting. Nissan had this Problem with their Jatco transmission. But people are going To have to do something.
Ud be stupid to pay more than 25k for a 4 banger half ton.
@@dr._breens_beard you can’t even buy a base Tacoma for 25k.
@@jeremygregory7178 i think ur missing the obvious here. My point is that if people are willing to settle for these absurd prices, then they are continuing the problem. These vehicles have so many issues and are built with questionable quality but people think 40k is ok. No. Its not. Houses once used to be 40k. Now a depreciating asset is this much? Ita insane. Stop buying vehicles unless u can afford 48 months AT ABSOLUTE MOST worth of finance.
@@dr._breens_beard I get what you are saying but that’s where we are at right now. I agree 40k for a pretty work truck that should be 30k max is crazy. Kind of like a 200k house that should be around 140k. Prices of everything are going up and up but wages are not. Even used cars are crazy priced. Any truck in good shape and less than 100k miles is still 30 grand. For anyone that makes average wages and has a mortgage it’s pretty hard to finance a vehicle for only 48 months.
What a truck Chevrolet built a beautiful fullsize truck awesome offroad truck. I like to buy a truck like this one
Disappointed they don't put led headlights as standard.. and unfortunately you would have to drop the price way more for me to take a 4cyl.
Waiting to see if anyone finds a part number or something to replace them with LEDS
Similar size Tundra SR5 TRD Off Road starts at $49k.
And that comes with a turbo 3.5L.
Lol.
Not with the 8 speed transmission that g.m. has a class action lawsuit against them
Wow Ben! That was an awesome off road test probably the best I’ve ever seen! Now maybe that’s a good idea to stay very close to the garage..😂😂😂
lmao. Loran
@@RAM-KINGOFTRUCKS friends call him "Lory"
@@cesarconh895 first time I've heard that one🤣
Crazy how the newer custom has the same features as the 2020 LT and RST. Minus the heated seats and steering wheel
The only good thing about the 2.7 turbo is that it still has a normal engine belt and not the stretchy belt for the accessories and ac belt on the 5.3 and 6.2
I absolutely love my 2.7
I get the reasons why people prefer an 8 banger over a turbo dohc i4.
However, the 2.7 has proven to be a very reliable engine.
I know this is a chevy review. With that said, I drive a 2018 F150 with the 2.7L ecoboost. I Won't go back to a NA V8 truck. There is to much efficiency left on the table. When a V8 powered truck can make 420 pound feet of torque at 1500 rpm and still get 25 mpg at 70 mph I'll buy one. Until then trucks and turbos go together like peanut butter and jelly.
lol. GM hasn't made reliable engines since they added AFM to almost all their V8s and axed the 3800 V6 for the piece of garbage 3.6L V6.
I can confirm this. 45k miles on my gen1 2.7 Sierra and it’s been smooth sailing. It’s a huge step forward for GM
@@Ghidorah00 check back in when you hit about 150k miles. I doubt most of the 4 bangers will make it that far.
150k was MAYBE midlife for the 800 series. They were just getting broken in by that point.
@@glenhalstead2301 fingers crossed it holds together for 150k! Anything can happen of course, but it truly doesn’t feel like the engine is working hard considering how big the vehicle is.
I am cautiously optimistic that this engine is going to be a big winner.
I went to see these in person. I laughed at the fact that for $5k more you get an LT 2022 Trail Boss with the NEW interior. Where for this 2022 Custom Trail Boss you get not only stuck with the OLD interior but a 4 cylinder?! Who to blame? GM for sending out vehicle that are missing features and not up to par engines?! Or dealerships overpriced sticker prices for these things?!
Anything over $45k to $50k and it's a 4 cylinder, do not care if it's a truck or car, that's insane and dealers know that too and act clumsy towards us when attempting to negotiate.
I blame both. Then again this isn’t a Silverado or C/K from 20-25 years ago.
Beautiful mountains in the background
Nice TRUCK Wow
I bought a 22 LT with a 5.3L , the 5.3L seems like an old friend that never needed repairs of any kind in my previous trucks. They made millions of them over the years. I like it.
Kicking myself a bit for not buying a V8 Custom Trail Boss 2 years ago when they were available in the low 40's and had identical interior. $50,000 truck with a plastic steering wheel SMH
got mine for 34k out the door in may 2020 i almost sold it due to price increases but kept it
@@jimhenry9207 Wow. Congrats. Great deal. Crazy that some vehicles 1-4 years old are worth more used than what people paid brand new
i cant wait until chevy offers this engine as a crate option with everything needed to swap into older models that is smog legal in 50 states like their connect and cruise packages
I say it's good for the 2.7L turbo my dad has a 2021 custom 2.7L and it's great
Right now there's a dealer with a 2022 Trail Boss not the refreshed interior but they want 46K for it. It has the 5.3L in it. I'd probably go for it for the price over this which has the 2.7L
I've owned both the 5.3 and the 2.7 and power wise they feel the same.
310hp and 430lb of Torque. Isnt that more than the v6 4.3 Chevy retired? And it almost matches the 5.3. I think a lot of peple hate on it JUST because it has 4 cylinders before they even understand the tech or what Chevy can squeeze out of an engine this size.
This would be a cool upgrade from my ‘03 Silverado. I wouldn’t mind the 2.7. Off the bat it is way more powerful than my old 5.3. But @ $50k, i’d have to wait to save up.
Its about 30k now
Very good looking truck. Now I'm hooked on this truck.
Nice truck...for $ 35,000
That 4 banger is great when it works. Ht when it doesn't...good luck finding a guy who can fix that one
The fact they don't put wheel well liners on the zr2 is crazy for that kind of $
My dad bought a brand new Cadillac Escalade in 2008 for around 60,000. Now, base model trucks are 50k. I give up
Cold day in hell before I buy a truck with a four cylinder engine.
Great video as usual!
How does this refreshed custom trailboss with the 2.7 feel as compared to the previous custom trailboss you tested with that older 2.7?
Is the increased torque really noticeable?
This truck has the updated 2.7 lol.
@@calebniederhofer6529 🤔....yeah...that's why I asked how it compares to the old one that he also test drove before...
@@iandl9147 This is not the refreshed custom trail boss though. I think the way you have it worded just sounds odd. No worries. Yea, when you say a refreshed custom trail boss, that would mean the updated interior. It is not really the trail boss either, it is update on the 1/2 ton trim models also. It is not a trail boss refresh really. Trail boss is just a added package.
@@calebniederhofer6529 This is the refreshed trail boss...but in custom trim...not the lt trim with the new interior .
The refreshed trail boss..custom and Lt both have the updated 2.7 turbo, but only the LT has the updated interior.
It does have the new 2.7
It gets worse mpg then my 14 ram 1500 hemi 4x4 the ram can atleast touch 20mpg. So whats the point of the 4banger if its only getting 18mpg???
The 430 ft/lb rating is only on the refreshed 2022 2.7t trucks which also have the new interior. My source told me if you see the new interior on a 2022 and it's got the 2.7 you'll know it has the updated engine.
Or it days 2.7 high output engine on the sticker.
You cannot convince me a vehicle of this size and weight with a 4 Cyl Turbo is sufficient for the long term being 60K plus miles even when we’ll maintained under the best of circumstances.
GM knows exactly what they are doing which is kicking back waiting for us to buy another one after this ridiculous monstrosity falls apart.
dido --- and this things gets worse mpg then the '18 ram v6 I had ...
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If they fall apart at 60k that’s not a good biz model they would start losing money. It can tow 9600 you don’t think it can pull its own weight for 60k ,lies.
I think that was a very good honest review thank you.
Ok
We need a wt single cab version for 35k
I’d buy it
A 2wd RCSB WT specs out at about that price but it looks like you'd have to try and order/wait for it. It's a pretty plain truck for that money. I considered replacing my 2007 RCSB 5.3 3.73 with one of these but it doesn't seem like they want to sell them very badly.
So you only get the new interior on the upper trim levels?
I paid $54k for my 2021 silverado rst z71 with the 6.2 V8. The heck with that crappy baby engine
I’m obsessed with these trucks and I’ve been looking for one in white. As someone who mainly wants it for a daily driver who does around 20-25k miles per year would you recommend it ??
Beautiful truck on the exterior….
Wait...did that actually come with rear fender liners? They usually don't. But it should be standard in all trucks. That's nice.
Is the acceleration comparable to the v8? That's what I'd like to know.
Is the bed liner from the factory? Looking for the same bed liner for my custom trail boss just like that. Any help here would be awesome!
Nice review Ben.
yes its no frill inside, I like it since it reminds me of the Frontier and as you know a lot of people knock and call it cheap with the plastic and not much technology .Ben I agree with you on this review and I probably wouldn't take this off road.
kinda eh on this truck on the insides of it... its targeted at first time truck buyers who want to look like they offroad but keep it on pavement. I think the 4 banger is a crime...great review ben.
I almost bought a truck with a 2.7. I almost threw up on my way to pick it up. I changed my mind and bought a GMC sierra with a 6.2. Wow! That was a close one.
put a diesel 3 liter 6cyl with 310 hp in it with a extended cab regular bed or long bed then i mite think about buying one...witha brown and medium and dark tan interior and maybe a crisp popping metallic pearl green paint job
Where was this color when I bought my 2021 trail boss!?
Looks good but talk about skipping leg day! Tires are a solid couple inches too small!!!
Personally I couldn't do a 4 banger in a full size. I'd definitely consider it in a Colorado zr2 over the V6 or even the diesel tho.
2022 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 Custom Z71 Trail Boss Crew Cab 4X4!
Unless it’s a diesel, a full size truck has no business having a 4 cylinder engine. Turbo or not.
My 2010 Sierra 5.3 gets the exact mpg and the afm v4 mode has been deleted with 285,000 miles.
This truck has almost 50 ft lbs of more torque than the 5.3, but everyone is saying "BuT tHeRe'S nO rEPlAcEmEnT FoR DiSpLaCeMeNt, iT's NoT A 5.3 Or 6.2; dUrR DuRr duRR. ThEy tUrK Ur JeRbS".
310 hp not bad. Almost super car numbers. 100 hp per cylinder.
That thing makes more Tq than the Lexus Rx 500h with the 2.4 L turbo & the hybrid system!
The 2.7 is good for rally/off roading
I wish the custom trailboss had the refreshed interior. 😕
The turn on sound cracks me up. It sounds lie a 1980 datsun. Gm should have made us all comfortable and kept the 4..3 and add a turbo. the 2.7 doesnt seem like its saving much gas. Im getting 22mpg with my 2001 silverado
It's not that the 4 banger isn't capable, it's that it's working so hard and under constant boost to achieve what's needed that larger engines do better naturally. There is such a thing as being TOO small and this is right on that edge.
Couple that with the notorious 8 speed transmission, yikes. Seriously, how is this unreliable junk and garbage torque converter still allowed to be sold?
Good luck on 100k+ reliable miles.
Love the color looks nice
I thought you said they don't charge above msrp lol. They literally selling this one above msrp on their website.
Strange
4 cylinder turbo gets almost worse mileage than a 5.3. Just a feel good motor.
Internet says these trucks have all kind of engine issues oil consumption in the diesel and lifter failures in gas engines Run!
I know someone who bought a brand new 2021 Silverado 4 cylinder turbo. And he gets NO better gas mileage than what I get in my 2002 GMC Sierra 5.3. so what's even the point to get the 4 cylinder to have a turbo? Well one day I'll have a turbo also...
The Four Cylinder Engine Is going to be the new norm. A small Motor With A big turbo. The Problem Is People are going to be having a lot of warranty issues due to blown Motors. People Can't keep their foot out of them. 40 to 50,000 Seems like A lot¡
Own a carbon copy of this. Excellent truck. No regrets
Where’d the fog lights go?
I have a 2019 custom trail boss and would absolutely kill to have that console space on my bench seat! Does anybody know if this seat would be a direct fit in a 2019??
16/18 mileage? that doesn't seem right at all for the 4 cyl. most things i've read have that engine at 19/22 for 4x4
Our new 2022, 2 month old trail boss is currently getting 19.1mpg. It just keeps going up as we drive it. Started at 16 mpg.
Love the cold start!😅
Whoever is in charge of the styling department for these trucks must be blind. That front end is horrendous.
General Motors insists on it no matter how many customers switch to Ford and Ram because of it.
I just saw they have about $15K in discounts at the dealerships...
Can I get one with. 5.3 motor
Testing 4wd in dry paved lot Rediculous sharp turning in such condition will bind the 4wd use Awd 2wd mode only dry must be wet or snow dirt mud or straight driving highway 4wd use
Does this particular model have Blind-Spot monitoring?
Beautiful truck all around. Just can't get past the fact it sounds like a honda civic