Let's just say that Bagnaia and Martin are very lucky that Marquez isn't on a GP24. Morbidelli is doing eff-all on a GP24 while Marquez is fighting it out with Martin, Bagnaia and Bastianini. And looking beyond Marquez, Acosta and Quartararo are stuck on sub par bikes too.
Even if you're right, your comment has nothing to do with the theme of this video, yet you come and stick it in here just because you want Marquez to be winning, but he's unable to. If next season he will be able to do what you think he would be doing, so be it, but for now it's irrelevant.
They aren’t lucky by any means. Both of them have been more consistent than Marquez. Marquez is doing good and having a great come back but you can’t blame it on being a gp23 lmfao he has crashed much much more than either bagnaia and Martin
@@brdllc Marc has been more consistent then the 2 championship contenders, with fewer DNF than either of them. Of Marcs many crashes very few of them have been during the races, and especially few on sunday races. Marc finds the limit and rarely crosses it during the race, thats been his entire career, crashes only matter if they cost points.
Gotta consider the amount of laps this season has almost doubled with all the sprints. Gotta calculate the number of laps per crash to have a fair comparison with previous seasons.
I love your use of this format! Very thoughtful and engaging! I started treating it like a podcast and put it on in the background and you immediately drew me back in! Good job! Would love to meet some of your other colleagues!
The races now are like pushing till last lap rather than managing it like earlier. In any case Enea and Marc are not out yet when we are discussing like Martin and Pecco constantly throwing it away and as Simon mentioned its 44 races and no longer 20 or 21 races like earlier, so risks and testing the limit is more
If you look at the crashes from the GP24 riders, outside of Pecco's clashes with the Marquez brothers, the crashes have all been the same front ends washing out at very similar lap times to previous laps. Is this the GP24's weakness, a lack of front end feel?
I do think that MM93 could be closer in the championship with a 2024 ducati, but Marc has fallen off the bike a lot as well. I don't think it is as easy to just say he would have walked away with the title. I think the main issue is just the small line these riders have to walk to be fast and not crash. But it defo feels like nobody wants to win😅
Great work on this channel and this video but if possible can we see more data backed analysis for example: falls per competitive session or per lap of racing. Use this data to compare riders/teams to themselves now and in the past. This shows viewers the actual numbers and gives us insight on trends and better our understanding and contextualization of events.
I think there have only been 2 events where both Martin and Bagnaia were on the podium in both races! That is crazy where they have both been in the top 3 fastest basically every weekend
@@AKK5I if any of them give up especially the Japanese manufacturers that have dominated for the longest time they never deserved to go racing btw none of the current manufacturers have shown any sign of leaving in fact Aprilla, KTM and Yamaha have taken big strides on Ducati and will continue to do so in the coming years not to mention the reg change. PS you do t win championships by being weak minded
Jorge and Peco's level is extremely high, they are pushing boundaries, mark's doing the same on the 23 and crashing plenty. I think their mentality and consistency is not as high as Marks, but he is a phenom
Pecco and Martin need to crash together atleast twice and be injured for them to lose to anyone else now. even with them not scoring Marc and Bastianini have to punish those mistakes hard, which itself is an achievement. they had an outside chance until last week.
It’s kinda wild when you think about a brand having teams with lesser machines than they have capable, like, why wouldn’t they want as many riders as possible for their brand to have the best chance possible to win
Politics and money, they want the 'official' rider with the 'official' branding and sponsors to win, to keep those sponsors happy. It's to Ducati's credit that they haven't sabotaged Martin and Pramac the way Honda used to do in the Telefonica/Gibernau/Melandri days, where they seemed to prefer Rossi winning on a Yamaha to a non-Repsol rider winning on the 'wrong' Honda. It's also expensive to build 8 (or 12, 16) sets of current year engines and bikes, leasing out last year's machinery allows a bit of return on investment.
Power is moving forward, electronic intervention has not. Once again, 2023 to 2024 has seen another breakthrough in lap times and top speeds. It won't be a stretch to see 370km/h on the straights next year or in 2026 during the twilight of the 1000cc era. People don't want another 800cc era, so traction control development along with other forms of electronic intervention is being limited, but this means the bikes will become harder and harder to push to their limits without relying too much on traction control.
great video as always, I always wanted F1-like channel for motoGP👌Anyway, I see you using footage from motogp, which F1 doesn't allow. is it paid licence or fair use, and do you think will it remain that way after Liberty Media buyout, to maximaze profits ofc??
im following motogp recently and i see many changes happen, can the race make some video about it when there is no race or we got a long break from race? coz i was a motogp fans (kinda), but not hardcore, i was enjoying see the overtakes back in the day when rossi, biaggi, nicky hayden, casey stoner, jorge lorenzo, dani pedrosa era. Also i was watching Indonesian GP last week and yeah, i dont know much, but before i was watching, i see 4 rider got a shot at world champion and all 4 rider mess up in certain way (pecco start problem, marquez disaster quali, bastianini fell off, martin sprint disaster), and half of the grid was dnf, is the quality of the rider got decresed, or the motorbike nowadays are bad or what...keep up the good work and keep feeding us with your good content, make it like the main one xD
Basically why there’s less passing nowadays is how the bikes are. Slightly dirty aero some say, but it’s mainly that these bikes favor a more squared off turning style and to get the bike back up to the fat of the tire and get on the gas as quick as possible. As opposed to during the golden era with Rossi and the like it favored a more traditional rounded turn, which made it easier to pass than it is today. Many factors but that is a basic reason why. Rider quality hasn’t gone down though, there are todays version of the “aliens” of the golden era as well, the top 4 in the standings. There are other fantastic riders that aren’t near the top, such as Fabio quartararo that are just on inferior bikes for the time being
They are riding at speeds beating lap records everywhere, and race times in some cases ~1 second faster per lap over full distance. With that, physics will take over more frequently.
Let's start with last season, Jorge Martin was deliberately taken out by Marc Marques so that Marques secured a Ducati team ride in 2025. Move forward to this season and we're seeing the new script being played out, starting with Aleix Espargaro was handed the sprint win in Spain as a gift for him retiring from racing which he wouldn't have won if Martin and Bagnaia hadn't crashed out! Since then I have noticed so many 'unnatural'crashes that it's getting unbearable to the point of me being close to stopping myself watching any more of it. I know that if I did stop watching it wouldn't make much difference to the overall viewing numbers, but that's how I feel. The battle continues and I miss the sportsmanship from the past, but I also look forward to the future of the championship and its shiny new rules for 2027. Oh, and there wasn't even any real replays of the Marquez/Martin incident, let alone any kind of investigation of any sort into it so make of that what you will. Anyway, thanks for being more reliable than some other reporters for Moto GP!
Marc has come around and is doing well, but pretending he hasn’t crashed just as much, and that he would walk away with it on a gp24 is borderline delusional.
I am today year's old to find out The Race has a MotoGP channel. Also I may not watch MotoGP like the diehards but even I know the two title contenders have had way too many mistakes.
No if u look at per season crashes by # of races with sprints added in they arent crashing anymore than any other champs. Heck MM93 only won w/60% of avalible season pts. Martin is cllose 2 this 60% now
Let's just say that Bagnaia and Martin are very lucky that Marquez isn't on a GP24. Morbidelli is doing eff-all on a GP24 while Marquez is fighting it out with Martin, Bagnaia and Bastianini. And looking beyond Marquez, Acosta and Quartararo are stuck on sub par bikes too.
They are making mistakes too.... None of them is consistent enough
Every single one of them wacks.
Luck has nothing to do with it
Even if you're right, your comment has nothing to do with the theme of this video, yet you come and stick it in here just because you want Marquez to be winning, but he's unable to. If next season he will be able to do what you think he would be doing, so be it, but for now it's irrelevant.
They aren’t lucky by any means. Both of them have been more consistent than Marquez. Marquez is doing good and having a great come back but you can’t blame it on being a gp23 lmfao he has crashed much much more than either bagnaia and Martin
@@rmndsexactly. The MM stans seriously cannot help themselves. I love Marc but it’s so annoying
@@brdllc Marc has been more consistent then the 2 championship contenders, with fewer DNF than either of them.
Of Marcs many crashes very few of them have been during the races, and especially few on sunday races.
Marc finds the limit and rarely crosses it during the race, thats been his entire career, crashes only matter if they cost points.
Gotta consider the amount of laps this season has almost doubled with all the sprints.
Gotta calculate the number of laps per crash to have a fair comparison with previous seasons.
Exactly martin has 60%+/- of pts. Exactly what MM93 had winning several.of his titles more races+sprints + more rounds =more wrecks
They’re all very similar crashes. I think it’s more the way these bikes (or the tyres) can give out on you when you ride on the limit
I love your use of this format! Very thoughtful and engaging! I started treating it like a podcast and put it on in the background and you immediately drew me back in! Good job!
Would love to meet some of your other colleagues!
The races now are like pushing till last lap rather than managing it like earlier. In any case Enea and Marc are not out yet when we are discussing like Martin and Pecco constantly throwing it away and as Simon mentioned its 44 races and no longer 20 or 21 races like earlier, so risks and testing the limit is more
Please comtinue this channel, I live the short and precise coverage and the opinion piecea
love watching u guys after a long day of work and school or right after i wake up before i start my day. keep up the goood work boys!
As a person who came from F1: YES ABSOLUTELY
But are the bikes to blame, including the aero and the Michelin front tyre?
If you look at the crashes from the GP24 riders, outside of Pecco's clashes with the Marquez brothers, the crashes have all been the same front ends washing out at very similar lap times to previous laps. Is this the GP24's weakness, a lack of front end feel?
I do think that MM93 could be closer in the championship with a 2024 ducati, but Marc has fallen off the bike a lot as well. I don't think it is as easy to just say he would have walked away with the title. I think the main issue is just the small line these riders have to walk to be fast and not crash. But it defo feels like nobody wants to win😅
Great work on this channel and this video but if possible can we see more data backed analysis for example:
falls per competitive session or per lap of racing.
Use this data to compare riders/teams to themselves now and in the past.
This shows viewers the actual numbers and gives us insight on trends and better our understanding and contextualization of events.
I think there have only been 2 events where both Martin and Bagnaia were on the podium in both races! That is crazy where they have both been in the top 3 fastest basically every weekend
It's just becoming f1
Nothing less nothing more
The only reason we have a title fight is because unlike f1 satellite team gets a factory spec bike
Tell Honda, Yamaha, Aprila and KTM to get there shit together
@@asadallibhoy9206cool ok so what happens of they leave and you're left with a one make championship?
@@AKK5I if any of them give up especially the Japanese manufacturers that have dominated for the longest time they never deserved to go racing btw none of the current manufacturers have shown any sign of leaving in fact Aprilla, KTM and Yamaha have taken big strides on Ducati and will continue to do so in the coming years not to mention the reg change. PS you do t win championships by being weak minded
Great discussion guys. Keep it coming!
Jorge and Peco's level is extremely high, they are pushing boundaries, mark's doing the same on the 23 and crashing plenty. I think their mentality and consistency is not as high as Marks, but he is a phenom
Pecco and Martin need to crash together atleast twice and be injured for them to lose to anyone else now.
even with them not scoring Marc and Bastianini have to punish those mistakes hard, which itself is an achievement. they had an outside chance until last week.
It’s kinda wild when you think about a brand having teams with lesser machines than they have capable, like, why wouldn’t they want as many riders as possible for their brand to have the best chance possible to win
Politics and money, they want the 'official' rider with the 'official' branding and sponsors to win, to keep those sponsors happy. It's to Ducati's credit that they haven't sabotaged Martin and Pramac the way Honda used to do in the Telefonica/Gibernau/Melandri days, where they seemed to prefer Rossi winning on a Yamaha to a non-Repsol rider winning on the 'wrong' Honda. It's also expensive to build 8 (or 12, 16) sets of current year engines and bikes, leasing out last year's machinery allows a bit of return on investment.
Power is moving forward, electronic intervention has not.
Once again, 2023 to 2024 has seen another breakthrough in lap times and top speeds. It won't be a stretch to see 370km/h on the straights next year or in 2026 during the twilight of the 1000cc era. People don't want another 800cc era, so traction control development along with other forms of electronic intervention is being limited, but this means the bikes will become harder and harder to push to their limits without relying too much on traction control.
great video as always, I always wanted F1-like channel for motoGP👌Anyway, I see you using footage from motogp, which F1 doesn't allow. is it paid licence or fair use, and do you think will it remain that way after Liberty Media buyout, to maximaze profits ofc??
refreshing ,interesting commentary compared to the usual consensus, opinion yobs
That picture is just great, looks like one of my G.I. Joes when i was a kid just stuck in a wierd position after it fell off my r.c. car.
No one wants to be a champion 😂😂😂 can't wait for MM93 to get GP25❤❤❤
@5:04 why you gotta do my man like that?
im following motogp recently and i see many changes happen, can the race make some video about it when there is no race or we got a long break from race? coz i was a motogp fans (kinda), but not hardcore, i was enjoying see the overtakes back in the day when rossi, biaggi, nicky hayden, casey stoner, jorge lorenzo, dani pedrosa era. Also i was watching Indonesian GP last week and yeah, i dont know much, but before i was watching, i see 4 rider got a shot at world champion and all 4 rider mess up in certain way (pecco start problem, marquez disaster quali, bastianini fell off, martin sprint disaster), and half of the grid was dnf, is the quality of the rider got decresed, or the motorbike nowadays are bad or what...keep up the good work and keep feeding us with your good content, make it like the main one xD
Basically why there’s less passing nowadays is how the bikes are. Slightly dirty aero some say, but it’s mainly that these bikes favor a more squared off turning style and to get the bike back up to the fat of the tire and get on the gas as quick as possible. As opposed to during the golden era with Rossi and the like it favored a more traditional rounded turn, which made it easier to pass than it is today. Many factors but that is a basic reason why. Rider quality hasn’t gone down though, there are todays version of the “aliens” of the golden era as well, the top 4 in the standings. There are other fantastic riders that aren’t near the top, such as Fabio quartararo that are just on inferior bikes for the time being
They are both at their limit every race it’s normal to make mistakes
They are riding at speeds beating lap records everywhere, and race times in some cases ~1 second faster per lap over full distance. With that, physics will take over more frequently.
Hmmm.... agree with some points made, disagree with many points made!
Let's start with last season, Jorge Martin was deliberately taken out by Marc Marques so that Marques secured a Ducati team ride in 2025. Move forward to this season and we're seeing the new script being played out, starting with Aleix Espargaro was handed the sprint win in Spain as a gift for him retiring from racing which he wouldn't have won if Martin and Bagnaia hadn't crashed out! Since then I have noticed so many 'unnatural'crashes that it's getting unbearable to the point of me being close to stopping myself watching any more of it. I know that if I did stop watching it wouldn't make much difference to the overall viewing numbers, but that's how I feel.
The battle continues and I miss the sportsmanship from the past, but I also look forward to the future of the championship and its shiny new rules for 2027.
Oh, and there wasn't even any real replays of the Marquez/Martin incident, let alone any kind of investigation of any sort into it so make of that what you will.
Anyway, thanks for being more reliable than some other reporters for Moto GP!
Marc has come around and is doing well, but pretending he hasn’t crashed just as much, and that he would walk away with it on a gp24 is borderline delusional.
I am today year's old to find out The Race has a MotoGP channel. Also I may not watch MotoGP like the diehards but even I know the two title contenders have had way too many mistakes.
Live from a Motegi bathroom. 😂😂
riding on the edge of two wheels and the GP champ is on the line.
Asking that question is like asking does the sun set in west?
No if u look at per season crashes by # of races with sprints added in they arent crashing anymore than any other champs. Heck MM93 only won w/60% of avalible season pts. Martin is cllose 2 this 60% now
mister bib....besides losing the front, not much else........................