I thought this was going to be a paid plug for the windshield film. Glad to hear this is an honest review. Looking forward to hearing some hopeful results in the future from you guys.
Wow. Bummer. There is a real need for this protection. Ideally something easy to install, durable and clear enough with ghosts or phantoms. Great educational video. I still think some protection is better than nothing.
@@BlackoutTinting , ,, just come across your channel by chance . there's this road incident, a truck with double tire has a piece of rock , size just enough that lodge between the tire, and during high speed on highway , it dislodges, and it FLEW like a projectile, to the vehicle following the truck. the rock broke thru the windshield, clear hole break, hit the wife in the face/head, and died very quickly , in minutes, while the children were horrified and screaming , while the husband tried to apply or administer whatever first-aid knowledge he has. this happen in our province, and ever since this news report , i've taken precautions when driving .. it's very EXHAUSTING to be worried about it.
I bought a 2013 and the pvs owner had Xpel put on the front and windshield. No problems with clouding on the windshield, but the PPF on the hood had marks from water stains. This was in TX so it held up in the heat for 9-10 years.
hmm.. Not only does xpel not make a windshield film, there definitely isn't one that would hold up to that much time. The information you received isn't correct, I'm not saying you're lying. XPEL film does hold up great though as far as the ppf.
I installed different types of XPEL films for a few years and while they have a fantastic marketing team, their actual products aren't quite so fantastic... I had multiple cases of window film failing after only a year or so.
I live in Utah right next to the great salt lake, one winter with stek and the distortion in the film grew a ton (garage kept car) so I’m thinking it’s salt. Also to remove it it come off a lot easier if you warm it up first. Maybe cut like 4 vertical lines so there is less tention and it won’t rip so easy
I paid over $800 Canadian to have film installed on my Model X windshield. It required two pieces as its over 60" high. I was not a happy camper with all the wiper scratches. After a year of squinting I took the big lower piece off. Wasn't that hard to remove but it was a poor investment.
I'm wondering if you have any suggestion for apply a clear film to a plastic motorcycle windshield? I have a new windshield that's very prone to scratches. It does have some radius/contouring so probably requires a heat film application. Thanks for any suggestions you can offer.
I was looking for a quote and i was told to avoid windshield ppf because apparently they scratch easily from the wipers.. overtime with so many arc scratches from both wipers, it becomes annoying.
Its be 1 1/2 years on my car and had to get it replaced 3 times now. Now the third one is starting to stain and getting harder to see through it. Its going to have to get replaced really soon. But it works at keeping the windshield from chipping.
That’s pretty much the only thing the films do pretty well is protect. They don’t last long. The easier they are to install the harder the more distorted they are and don’t last as long.
I had you guys install the DYNOflex on my '22 Camaro SS in the spring. 5000 miles later with 5 track days and a rainy road trip to SW Virginia, yep, I'm seeing the same negatives as on the Hellcat. Stains from bugs and chemical spotting that seem to have permanently marred the film (or the ceramic coating). Some streaks from the wipers have also made an appearance. On the positive side it has absorbed rock chips. But for the cost, I'm not sure it was a good investment considering one summers worth of degradation.
On STEK's website now they have listed under the warranty info of a silicon oil remover they put on. Maybe it also helps protect the new film.. will have to put that to the test.
Do you think the salt in the air has anything to do with the issues? Since those are two very different climates, and seems to be the variable. Looks good though all in all.
Hoping they bring out gorilla glass for the new bromco like they did for the jeep. I was looking at this type of product but none of it lasts for the price of it.
I looked at a local installer of windshield protection films and their page says they have discontinued all windshield protection film installs as they are finding that they reduce but do not prevent chips, and seem to start to delaminate and look like crap after a year or so, and they say the same problems apply to every product they used to install.
We have been trying to find a good film option here. It's difficult finding one we trust that is also cost effective for the customer. I don't think any film can guarantee protection.
Hello brother……There is one more windshield product call Exoshield…….Have you ever get chance to get familiar with exoshield..? Waiting eagerly for your review on that …..
Have it on my 22 Forester, cause Subaru glass sucks. I've had exoshield on for about 9 months. It's trash. I already have a huge permanent streak from one of my wipers. I'm paying to get it removed soon!
Man at least the cars you’re trying this stuff on have glass in the USA. We’ve got a bunch of JDM cars and there is always that fear - and even if we got another windshield $$$$$ and 6 months later, who is trust worthy to install a 25-30 year old luxury car windshield? Hopefully someone comes up with a decent product. Enjoyed your video
I installed one from a store at my place, it was awful, it is like wearing an eye glass that doesn't fit, my eyes and brain are hurting, and everything looks like a mirage before the light is bent
thanks for doing this video. seems pretty clear why stek discontinued the product, it doesn't work very well. would be curious if you guys tried exoshield as someone in the comments suggested. whichever company figures this out is going to make a lot of money.
I have ExoShied and like it. Since i got the film i have had several rocks hit my car and no cracks to the windshield. That last one that hit my car I thought for sure it was going to crack as that window was the size of a 50 cent piece. but just the film had a pin tip spot but window is still protected.
@Westcoastrocksduh this product is more for more expensive vehicles and those that just don’t want to deal with everything that goes into windshield replacement
I think they might still be producing the Dynoflex, just not in North America. Their website still advertises it with that caveat -- not available in NA...
We have a playlist on windshield protection film. Our current favorite is called wincrest, but the non evo version from Ultrafit. XPEL is going to be releasing a windshield protection film that we will be testing later this year.
i have the film on my car and it was great and protected the glass. On 2 separate occasions where a rock hit and sounded so loud, left a pretty big mark on the plastic. but nothing happened to the glass underneath. Where. i lived. they were doing construction and. every morning there. was a film of dust. Not knowing any better i. squirted windshield wiper fluid and ran the wipers. Sure enough a couple. weeks of this and the film was completely full of scratches and very difficult to see through. Lesson, when you have this film on, grab a hose and rinse it off then gently with a soft cloth clean the glass and it will give you. much longer life on the window film protection. Taking it off now after 3 years and 25K miles. it is now literally dangerous to drive at night because of the glare and difficulty seeing through it.
i changed mine every 6 months, very hot weather where i am in summer and tried 3M, Johnson etc, all same results, hazy patches... ... decided with the no brand film... much cheaper...
Most cars, thats true. Many exotics have different policies that womt cover glass (we have seen windshields upwards of $6,000). Plus, when your windshield breaks on a car like that, who do you trust do put a new one on, and to do it perfectly? Best to preserve it!
I just had stek installed today and I’m removing it today Hopefully the removal process is easier than yours lol If I would have seen this before i could have saved myself $700
A lot of our customers just don't want to deal with it or having a windshield replacement company crawl on your car. We've had issues with them in the past replacing seals correctly.
These films do not work well in Texas ... they get hazy and make it hell seeing at night ... My son had it on a very expensive pickup that he bought and ended up taking it off with a razor.
They might have been reworking the formula. We still see it on the website but there are certain requirements to sustain the one year warranty. Like applying a silicon oil remover every month..
The gap did not make a difference in performance. This before plotter cutting was available for this material so it was hand cut and very hard to get perfect. If this was not a test/personal vehicle it would have been better. The product is still crap regardless and we're currently testing an alternative.
What is the actual point of this video? All I saw is someone removing film that was old and needed to be replaced. This is normal and expected. The takeaway after 5 minutes is that you simply don’t like it?
Yes, and I just bought a brand new OEM windshield for my car for $750, and after a week there's already a chip in it. Now I'm looking at getting a film.
Slightly disappointing..... I've installed around 10 of these for customers cars , oldest one is around 6 months old ... The climate is pretty cold here in the UK as a general and so far my installs seems to be lasting well with very little to none degrading . I've got one on my garaged show car and it's perfect still which is around 7 months old . Zero staining still optically clear. It's also readily available here In the UK. Also if you use steam it will come off in one piece . I really rate this product highly , I'm open about the slight distortion and my customers have been extremely happy with the product.
I thought this was going to be a paid plug for the windshield film. Glad to hear this is an honest review.
Looking forward to hearing some hopeful results in the future from you guys.
Thanks for watching.. we use this stuff on our own vehicles so definitely looking forward to new and better films
exactly what I was thinking! Its nice to have someone provide an honest opinion when they have financial incentive to give a biased opinion..!
So good on you guys... that's especially rare in our trade I feel.
Wow. Bummer. There is a real need for this protection. Ideally something easy to install, durable and clear enough with ghosts or phantoms. Great educational video. I still think some protection is better than nothing.
Good point. It's definitely a go to for more expensive windshields or vehicles you just don't want someone crawling on top of.
@@BlackoutTinting , ,, just come across your channel by chance . there's this road incident, a truck with double tire has a piece of rock , size just enough that lodge between the tire, and during high speed on highway , it dislodges, and it FLEW like a projectile, to the vehicle following the truck. the rock broke thru the windshield, clear hole break, hit the wife in the face/head, and died very quickly , in minutes, while the children were horrified and screaming , while the husband tried to apply or administer whatever first-aid knowledge he has. this happen in our province, and ever since this news report , i've taken precautions when driving .. it's very EXHAUSTING to be worried about it.
@@enzoh7763 that is a freak accident, keeping distance between you and vehicle in front of you helps a lot too. These films are not bullet proof.
@@BlackoutTinting ,, we subscribed , ,
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@@enzoh7763 thank you😁
I bought a 2013 and the pvs owner had Xpel put on the front and windshield. No problems with clouding on the windshield, but the PPF on the hood had marks from water stains. This was in TX so it held up in the heat for 9-10 years.
hmm.. Not only does xpel not make a windshield film, there definitely isn't one that would hold up to that much time. The information you received isn't correct, I'm not saying you're lying.
XPEL film does hold up great though as far as the ppf.
I installed different types of XPEL films for a few years and while they have a fantastic marketing team, their actual products aren't quite so fantastic... I had multiple cases of window film failing after only a year or so.
@Stellarffxi interesting. We’ve seen one or two cases in the past 5 years.
I live in Utah right next to the great salt lake, one winter with stek and the distortion in the film grew a ton (garage kept car) so I’m thinking it’s salt. Also to remove it it come off a lot easier if you warm it up first. Maybe cut like 4 vertical lines so there is less tention and it won’t rip so easy
That makes a lot of sense
I paid over $800 Canadian to have film installed on my Model X windshield. It required two pieces as its over 60" high. I was not a happy camper with all the wiper scratches. After a year of squinting I took the big lower piece off. Wasn't that hard to remove but it was a poor investment.
I'm wondering if you have any suggestion for apply a clear film to a plastic motorcycle windshield? I have a new windshield that's very prone to scratches. It does have some radius/contouring so probably requires a heat film application. Thanks for any suggestions you can offer.
I was looking for a quote and i was told to avoid windshield ppf because apparently they scratch easily from the wipers.. overtime with so many arc scratches from both wipers, it becomes annoying.
Each film is different. Some scratch easier than others and are only meant for 6 month lifespan or less or track it only.
this actually happened to me and i will get rid of the film
Not looking forward to removing this off of my ZR1 when that time comes lol
Better than replacing I guess.. definitely has its downsides
Its be 1 1/2 years on my car and had to get it replaced 3 times now. Now the third one is starting to stain and getting harder to see through it. Its going to have to get replaced really soon. But it works at keeping the windshield from chipping.
That’s pretty much the only thing the films do pretty well is protect. They don’t last long. The easier they are to install the harder the more distorted they are and don’t last as long.
You going to replace third one. It cost u more then u change the new windshield
@Flamur804 how many windshields were saved though?
Was that cracks in the windshield at 4:03 on the edge ?
Nope, no cracks
Its adhesive left from removal.
I had you guys install the DYNOflex on my '22 Camaro SS in the spring. 5000 miles later with 5 track days and a rainy road trip to SW Virginia, yep, I'm seeing the same negatives as on the Hellcat. Stains from bugs and chemical spotting that seem to have permanently marred the film (or the ceramic coating). Some streaks from the wipers have also made an appearance. On the positive side it has absorbed rock chips. But for the cost, I'm not sure it was a good investment considering one summers worth of degradation.
On STEK's website now they have listed under the warranty info of a silicon oil remover they put on. Maybe it also helps protect the new film.. will have to put that to the test.
We are in the same boat at my shop. However, I hear Ultrafit is great and not so bad to install as say clearplex or exoshield.
Thanks, we will look into that!
ClearPlex is easier than Ultrafit
Ultrafit is a lot more forgiving and definitely easier
Made a polycarbonate windshield, will this help temporarily protect it from wiper blade use?
polycarbonate and films don't do well together because of the outgassing
Do you think the salt in the air has anything to do with the issues? Since those are two very different climates, and seems to be the variable. Looks good though all in all.
Definitely could be.. the correct windshield protection film product has been a hard code to crack for the automotive industry
Hoping they bring out gorilla glass for the new bromco like they did for the jeep. I was looking at this type of product but none of it lasts for the price of it.
Yeah we are hesitant on that stuff. You really need some type of film that can be removable and optically clear.
I looked at a local installer of windshield protection films and their page says they have discontinued all windshield protection film installs as they are finding that they reduce but do not prevent chips, and seem to start to delaminate and look like crap after a year or so, and they say the same problems apply to every product they used to install.
We have been trying to find a good film option here. It's difficult finding one we trust that is also cost effective for the customer. I don't think any film can guarantee protection.
Hello brother……There is one more windshield product call Exoshield…….Have you ever get chance to get familiar with exoshield..? Waiting eagerly for your review on that …..
We haven’t tried that yet, we will be testing out Ultrafit this coming week. Stay tuned for that video
Have it on my 22 Forester, cause Subaru glass sucks. I've had exoshield on for about 9 months. It's trash. I already have a huge permanent streak from one of my wipers. I'm paying to get it removed soon!
How long doe s this process take to complete? Thanks.
Usually a drop off appt
@@BlackoutTinting thank you. Good to know. I live a fair distance from a shop that does this so was hoping to just have one drive instead of two.
Have you looked into or tried the liquid glass type treatments? Was curious if those work.
We have not, wonder how durable those are to prevent a rock chip..
Darn! i am having the same removal issue. How did you get it off? Ugh horrible
We always use a combination of heat, adhesive remover and steam. When it gets this bad it is never easy.
Man at least the cars you’re trying this stuff on have glass in the USA. We’ve got a bunch of JDM cars and there is always that fear - and even if we got another windshield $$$$$ and 6 months later, who is trust worthy to install a 25-30 year old luxury car windshield? Hopefully someone comes up with a decent product.
Enjoyed your video
Thanks, we have a whole playlist on windshield films. The company XPEL has a film they are developing that we can't wait to test as well.
@@BlackoutTinting I'll have to check that out, thanks!
Ever use flexishield DFR ?
Nope. Are you a fan?
There is a new one called terra shield, please do a review on that and let us know
🫡 on it
I installed one from a store at my place, it was awful, it is like wearing an eye glass that doesn't fit, my eyes and brain are hurting, and everything looks like a mirage before the light is bent
Do you have any info on PPF Profilm?
No sir
Have you tried removing the film while hitting with heat?
Yes, our favorite method is letting it bake out in the sun. We've used IR lamps, heat guns, hot water and steamers too.
Great information! Thank you!~
SURE THING CHANGSU
Is exoshield any better?
Nope
thanks for doing this video. seems pretty clear why stek discontinued the product, it doesn't work very well. would be curious if you guys tried exoshield as someone in the comments suggested. whichever company figures this out is going to make a lot of money.
I have ExoShied and like it. Since i got the film i have had several rocks hit my car and no cracks to the windshield. That last one that hit my car I thought for sure it was going to crack as that window was the size of a 50 cent piece. but just the film had a pin tip spot but window is still protected.
@Westcoastrocksduh this product is more for more expensive vehicles and those that just don’t want to deal with everything that goes into windshield replacement
I think they might still be producing the Dynoflex, just not in North America. Their website still advertises it with that caveat -- not available in NA...
They still sell in Australia but the first roll already made me stop using them.. appear dynoflex either mare in China or Korea film with stek brand
Any updates? Have you found one you recommend?
We have a playlist on windshield protection film. Our current favorite is called wincrest, but the non evo version from Ultrafit. XPEL is going to be releasing a windshield protection film that we will be testing later this year.
i have the film on my car and it was great and protected the glass. On 2 separate occasions where a rock hit and sounded so loud, left a pretty big mark on the plastic. but nothing happened to the glass underneath. Where. i lived. they were doing construction and. every morning there. was a film of dust. Not knowing any better i. squirted windshield wiper fluid and ran the wipers. Sure enough a couple. weeks of this and the film was completely full of scratches and very difficult to see through. Lesson, when you have this film on, grab a hose and rinse it off then gently with a soft cloth clean the glass and it will give you. much longer life on the window film protection. Taking it off now after 3 years and 25K miles. it is now literally dangerous to drive at night because of the glare and difficulty seeing through it.
So I should just stick to buying windshields on all my ram 3500's in Colorado?
We're still waiting for the next best thing when it comes to windshield protection.
Too bad. I liked the idea and was considering it.
So far testing is going pretty good on the new films we're trying out.
Here in Montana the DOT thinks gravel is sand and our windshields and pocketbooks suffer. If someone figures it out, I'm in.
We are testing a brand new film that isn't released yet. Might be the unicorn film. Video will go out in a few days.
@@BlackoutTinting thanks for the heads up!!
@xxlxpman we want a solution to windshield protection big time!
We offer a product called ExoShield here in Montana. SWAE industries in Columbia Falls
@trevinjh we have tried to use them but don’t think they’re interested because we make videos showing our likes and dislikes
i changed mine every 6 months, very hot weather where i am in summer and tried 3M, Johnson etc, all same results, hazy patches... ... decided with the no brand film... much cheaper...
hot and humid are not a good match for a lot of windshield protection films
The best solution is to have good car insurance.
never a bad idea
Use boiling water to remove. How do you not know this?
The guy told me that my windshield break I could just go to the insurance company give me a free windshield no need to pay for 500 bucks for the film
Most cars, thats true. Many exotics have different policies that womt cover glass (we have seen windshields upwards of $6,000). Plus, when your windshield breaks on a car like that, who do you trust do put a new one on, and to do it perfectly? Best to preserve it!
@@BlackoutTinting it’s best to prevent a yes that’s true, but why why is 500 bucks if my windshield cost 400 beside all film dont last forever
Because not all windshields cost the insurance deductible as i mentioned above. This product is not for every situation or every car.
@@BlackoutTinting how long does this film last?
I just had stek installed today and I’m removing it today
Hopefully the removal process is easier than yours lol
If I would have seen this before i could have saved myself $700
Oh man, why are you removing it? too much distortion in the install?
@@BlackoutTinting yes. The distortion is like permanent heat waves
dunno, paint is worth protecting... unless you have a very rare piece of glass. you can get a windshield replaced in a day
A lot of our customers just don't want to deal with it or having a windshield replacement company crawl on your car. We've had issues with them in the past replacing seals correctly.
These films do not work well in Texas ... they get hazy and make it hell seeing at night ... My son had it on a very expensive pickup that he bought and ended up taking it off with a razor.
wtf that sucks they quit making it. clear plex such a pain in the ass to install
They might have been reworking the formula. We still see it on the website but there are certain requirements to sustain the one year warranty. Like applying a silicon oil remover every month..
@@BlackoutTinting that's still better then dealing with a clear plex install.
will take anything over having to do those more often
@@dvandentop You can never cont on clearplex either. Basically have to tell a customer "we'll try to have it done in X amount of days"
So the answer is there are no good windshield protection products that you reccomend?
Check out our windshield protection playlist. We have recent recommendations
should try ours, it's different :)
Are you sending us a sample to do so?
@@BlackoutTinting sure, if you test our film like above, it will be great :)
Please email us at our about page on YT
Your install was gapped at the bottom...does that affect performance? If not, just more crap product I guess!
The gap did not make a difference in performance. This before plotter cutting was available for this material so it was hand cut and very hard to get perfect. If this was not a test/personal vehicle it would have been better.
The product is still crap regardless and we're currently testing an alternative.
What is the actual point of this video? All I saw is someone removing film that was old and needed to be replaced. This is normal and expected. The takeaway after 5 minutes is that you simply don’t like it?
lol, windshield are not made of plastic for a reason...
no doubt
Yes, and I just bought a brand new OEM windshield for my car for $750, and after a week there's already a chip in it. Now I'm looking at getting a film.
Slightly disappointing..... I've installed around 10 of these for customers cars , oldest one is around 6 months old ... The climate is pretty cold here in the UK as a general and so far my installs seems to be lasting well with very little to none degrading . I've got one on my garaged show car and it's perfect still which is around 7 months old . Zero staining still optically clear. It's also readily available here In the UK. Also if you use steam it will come off in one piece . I really rate this product highly , I'm open about the slight distortion and my customers have been extremely happy with the product.
when i get this i need wholesale
So...ceramic coating it is!
You need ExoShield
We will look into it, thanks
Have it currently. 9 months and it's done
Must you take the lords name in vain?
Sorry about that 🙏
Your claimed lord. Mind your business
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone
It’s also foggy on mine . I don’t think these films work to be honest . After a year or so it got foggy on me and I couldn’t see out of it