Hiya, The original Wellington was David Troughton. Sharpes Eagle was David Troughton's second and last appearance as Sir Arthur Wellesley. He also left due to Illness and, as you said, was replaced by Hugh Fraser. David Troughton is the son of the second Doctor Who Patrick Troughton and has two sons Sam, and actor and Jim a cricketer.
@caileansmith I think the point is to see things from Wellington's perspective. It's not a matter of Wellington actually hating the men. He's supposed to be angry BECAUSE he has to to punish them and he does not want to. Despite the makeup of the British forces, they were far less likely than most armies to rape and pillage because of discipline.
I think on balance they obeyed Sharpe's fictional rules. Don't steal from the population. Don't get drunk without permission.* Fight like the devil. * Bearing in mind in this period the beer was a lot safer to drink than the water.
The sequence of events got slightly muddled up in the tv series. In the books Sharpe was raised from the ranks in India for example whilst in the series it was in Portugal at the beginning of the peninsular campaign (actually it made more sense in the tv series for me having him promoted then). The sequence of episodes differing from the books was driven mainly by budget.
I REALLY doubt a lieutenant would accuse a major, in the middle of a war, with ONLY 2 MEN BEHIND HIM. I mean, Sharpe (as depicted in the episode) could have EASILY shoot the provost and his punny 2 companions. Who would have tell what happened? the man that was to be hanged?, his regiment buddies?, an spanish civilian?. Things like that were much much MUCH HARDER to pull off (that is, burglar charges against an officer, in fact less that 30 officers were ACUSSED of anything, much less hanged).
Actually no. A theft is a theft and breaches Wellington's standing orders. Wellington was more p'od at Sharpe for preventing the disciplinary hanging. As Harper pointed out /that's/ what caused the real trouble.
@@julianmhall Maybe, but as Sharpe said to Ayers later, "I disciplined him like this :::hits Ayers in the gut:::" But Wellington even said, "The man stole a CHICKEN" at the end. That tone clearly says, "for crying out loud".
@@JnEricsonx no 'maybe' about it. The soldier disobeyed Wellington's order and Sharpe prevented Ayers carrying out the punishment. Wellington held his officers to a higher standard and Sharpe fell short. The tone is your interpretation - he could easily have meant he deprived the owner of an income - eggs etc.
@caileansmith They were. At the time much of the British Army relied heavily on the draft, which wasn't uncommon at the time. The problem is, Britain is a Tenth the size of France and and France back then also had several other countries conquered. Napoleon had a large variety of professional soldiers to draw from (which was part of his success in battle), but Britain, with much less manpower to draw from, frequently drafted murders, rapists, and criminals from the prisons out of necessity.
Actually no, there was no draft (Called conscription in the UK and was not brought in until world war 1, watch Sharpe's regiment)Britain is smaller than France but not a tenth of the size. So your talking crap!
Where is this guy getting this utter shite from? No, as stated above, the only period of conscription in the UK was 1916-18 in the Great War (1918 in Ireland). Other than this, the British army has always been a volunteer force. Criminals could be offered a conditional pardon if they agreed to join the army but they could - and a few did - refuse and suffer the original sentence. As such, even these men were volunteers because they had the right to say no. (As in Sharpe when Cooper says "he was invited to join by a magistrate".) The level of ignorance in thinking the population of the UK is one tenth of France is mind blowing. Think nine tenths and you'll be much closer to the mark.
Actually everyone is wrong. In terms of /population/ - which is all that matters when you're talking about men able to fight - the population /at the time/ of Britain was around 10.5-11 million. France had a population of circa 29 million. Ergo Britain by population was around 38% of France. Not a tenth and certainly not nine tenths. Napoleon introduced conscription in France after the Grand Armee got decimated in Russia, so 1812 or so. Britain had no conscription at the time /officially/ but magistrates are known to have given men a choice between prison and serving in the army. Many chose the army, hence Harper's - magnificent - speech in the inn where he named all the felonies of the Chosen Men '... broken down scribblers like Harris...' The claim that the FWW was the /only/ time Britain had conscription is wrong. The 1939 Register wasn't just taken instead of the 1941 census; it told the authorities how many men of fighting age they had, and how old children were, so /when/ conscription was introduced in the same year - www.parliament.uk/about/living-heritage/transformingsociety/private-lives/yourcountry/overview/conscriptionww2/ - they would know who to call up and when.
I've read few of the Sharpe-books n' now, the whole time i've been watchin the Sharpe-series on Y.T., i've been wonderin why the TV-series differs SO DAMN MUCH from the books? For ex. this Sharpe's Gold's main plot is almost TOTALLY different than the book. Only the beginnin where Sharpe meets that provost lieutenant Aires is same in the book. In the book this ep. is the one where Sharpe meets Teresa for the first time, he rescues her from the french in Moreno's house. Why're they so different?
Each of the series is a couple of the books. The series ignores all Sharpe's career until Portugal. Artistic licence is the usual excuse given when a film or TV series wanders off a book.
@Ukka68 I've never really had a problem with distinguishing accents from the UK honestly. Of course I lived in St Ives for three years, so I guess that's kind of an unfair advantage...
Napoleon has disciplined soldiers?! The fact that the french soldiers have to live off the land seemed to make condemning them as 'looters' superfluous.
1:50 Munro advice to Sharpe: "dire and dreadful" . . . "grovel cringe squirm and toady to the Lt. Ayres" Wellington "four score evidences of impending court marshalls - am I to add another" Note: four score (skor Norse, scoru OE = 20)
Can ya tell why Lord Wellington's actor was changed too? cos i REALLY liked the Wellington in Sharpe's Rifles n' Sharpe's Eagle. don't remember that original actor's name now, but he was much more convincin n charismatic than Hugh Frasier as Wellington. I was SO DISAPPOINTED when i noticed the first time that Wellington wasn't the same guy anymore ;)....
The Australian experience of the British who were brutal in shooting their own, in one case a Welsh lad who spoke no English, was shot for dis-obeying an order, made them make the shooting of their own soldiers illegal. The British hated that, in WW1 and WW2 and so did the Yanks. However the Aussie troops fought exceptionally well; mate-ship held them together.
0:30 Ayers holding up that chicken, as he horses away is the funniest thing ever
Hiya, The original Wellington was David Troughton. Sharpes Eagle was David Troughton's second and last appearance as Sir Arthur Wellesley. He also left due to Illness and, as you said, was replaced by Hugh Fraser. David Troughton is the son of the second Doctor Who Patrick Troughton and has two sons Sam, and actor and Jim a cricketer.
"Antiques? What the fook do we know about antiques?!"
That fella from Lock Stock should've known all about antiques cos he fought in Sharpe's army! 😆😁
even sharpe sorries are sharpe >.
@caileansmith
I think the point is to see things from Wellington's perspective. It's not a matter of Wellington actually hating the men. He's supposed to be angry BECAUSE he has to to punish them and he does not want to. Despite the makeup of the British forces, they were far less likely than most armies to rape and pillage because of discipline.
I think on balance they obeyed Sharpe's fictional rules.
Don't steal from the population.
Don't get drunk without permission.*
Fight like the devil.
* Bearing in mind in this period the beer was a lot safer to drink than the water.
Lieutenant Aires has an extremely slapable face...
Ayres is bumbling ponce but damnit that is one fine helmet
The sequence of events got slightly muddled up in the tv series. In the books Sharpe was raised from the ranks in India for example whilst in the series it was in Portugal at the beginning of the peninsular campaign (actually it made more sense in the tv series for me having him promoted then). The sequence of episodes differing from the books was driven mainly by budget.
Also in the series Sharpe was already in the Rifles when promoted whereas in India he was in the 33rd.
A scouse stealing?....never 😂
. . . in every sandbox there was always the little bully that spoiled it for others . . .
the guy that played hogan was ill so they wrote a new character in.
They changed Wellington's actor? I rather liked the fellow in "Sharpe's Eagle"..
For some reason the main actor hated the series (dunno why)
Also he was sick
@@hannibalburgers477 Also it depends how popular the series was at the time, and how busy the actor is.
I REALLY doubt a lieutenant would accuse a major, in the middle of a war, with ONLY 2 MEN BEHIND HIM. I mean, Sharpe (as depicted in the episode) could have EASILY shoot the provost and his punny 2 companions. Who would have tell what happened? the man that was to be hanged?, his regiment buddies?, an spanish civilian?. Things like that were much much MUCH HARDER to pull off (that is, burglar charges against an officer, in fact less that 30 officers were ACUSSED of anything, much less hanged).
On top of that killing a chosen man , worth 10 red coats, for a chicken. While Welly pardons actual rapists, deserters, looters. 🤦🏻♂️
Lads on holiday: "AGWA?"
At least Wellington realized that hanging a kid for a chicken was bullshit.
Actually no. A theft is a theft and breaches Wellington's standing orders. Wellington was more p'od at Sharpe for preventing the disciplinary hanging. As Harper pointed out /that's/ what caused the real trouble.
@@julianmhall Maybe, but as Sharpe said to Ayers later, "I disciplined him like this :::hits Ayers in the gut:::" But Wellington even said, "The man stole a CHICKEN" at the end. That tone clearly says, "for crying out loud".
@@JnEricsonx no 'maybe' about it. The soldier disobeyed Wellington's order and Sharpe prevented Ayers carrying out the punishment. Wellington held his officers to a higher standard and Sharpe fell short. The tone is your interpretation - he could easily have meant he deprived the owner of an income - eggs etc.
They've been playing a bit too much Skyrim...
10 years later and were still playing skyrim and watching sharpe lol
@@squeesmyth9025 yes!
I guess too much was not enough for Todd. :/
Pvt. Rodd’s stupid laugh when he’s talking to the Spanish
@caileansmith
They were.
At the time much of the British Army relied heavily on the draft, which wasn't uncommon at the time.
The problem is, Britain is a Tenth the size of France and and France back then also had several other countries conquered.
Napoleon had a large variety of professional soldiers to draw from (which was part of his success in battle), but Britain, with much less manpower to draw from, frequently drafted murders, rapists, and criminals from the prisons out of necessity.
Actually no, there was no draft (Called conscription in the UK and was not brought in until world war 1, watch Sharpe's regiment)Britain is smaller than France but not a tenth of the size. So your talking crap!
Where is this guy getting this utter shite from? No, as stated above, the only period of conscription in the UK was 1916-18 in the Great War (1918 in Ireland).
Other than this, the British army has always been a volunteer force. Criminals could be offered a conditional pardon if they agreed to join the army but they could - and a few did - refuse and suffer the original sentence. As such, even these men were volunteers because they had the right to say no. (As in Sharpe when Cooper says "he was invited to join by a magistrate".)
The level of ignorance in thinking the population of the UK is one tenth of France is mind blowing. Think nine tenths and you'll be much closer to the mark.
Actually everyone is wrong. In terms of /population/ - which is all that matters when you're talking about men able to fight - the population /at the time/ of Britain was around 10.5-11 million. France had a population of circa 29 million. Ergo Britain by population was around 38% of France. Not a tenth and certainly not nine tenths.
Napoleon introduced conscription in France after the Grand Armee got decimated in Russia, so 1812 or so. Britain had no conscription at the time /officially/ but magistrates are known to have given men a choice between prison and serving in the army. Many chose the army, hence Harper's - magnificent - speech in the inn where he named all the felonies of the Chosen Men '... broken down scribblers like Harris...'
The claim that the FWW was the /only/ time Britain had conscription is wrong. The 1939 Register wasn't just taken instead of the 1941 census; it told the authorities how many men of fighting age they had, and how old children were, so /when/ conscription was introduced in the same year - www.parliament.uk/about/living-heritage/transformingsociety/private-lives/yourcountry/overview/conscriptionww2/ - they would know who to call up and when.
Did anyone notice the Highlanders were posing like in those old Victorian Cigarette Cards?
@Isildun9 The actors thought that the series was going nowhere and left. In the books nearly all of Sharpes original 40 or so riflemen die.
@definitelyimperfect
Supposedly Brian Cox, who played Hogan, got sick and was unable to continue filming, then went on to other projects.
I've read few of the Sharpe-books n' now, the whole time i've been watchin the Sharpe-series on Y.T., i've been wonderin why the TV-series differs SO DAMN MUCH from the books? For ex. this Sharpe's Gold's main plot is almost TOTALLY different than the book. Only the beginnin where Sharpe meets that provost lieutenant Aires is same in the book. In the book this ep. is the one where Sharpe meets Teresa for the first time, he rescues her from the french in Moreno's house. Why're they so different?
Each of the series is a couple of the books. The series ignores all Sharpe's career until Portugal. Artistic licence is the usual excuse given when a film or TV series wanders off a book.
The only scouser and they hang him for stealing 😂
@smellincoffee so do I,specially when he talked about losing the kings colourz
Obnoxious provosts complaining about looters when they're wearing French helmets... Lol.
funny how they made the 1 steelin the chicken a scouse lol
The Provost still took it too! XD
@@rubix4195 Evidence when /they/ do it.
Brian Cox got fed up after two episodes, so they had to get different actors to play different characters.
At 5:27, you could see famous spokesperson for Coca-cola - Santa Claus in his youth with his buddies.
haha the only person to steal in the 35th was a scouser? I love sharpe XD
95th..
Yet another British regional accent to confuse the rest of the world with!
@Ukka68
I've never really had a problem with distinguishing accents from the UK honestly.
Of course I lived in St Ives for three years, so I guess that's kind of an unfair advantage...
I'm reading this now and Hogan is his 'mentor' not Monroe.
Napoleon has disciplined soldiers?! The fact that the french soldiers have to live off the land seemed to make condemning them as 'looters' superfluous.
Hey, living of the land, "makes ya go fasta".
Same reason why Brits have red uniforms.
7;20 A thumbs up? Didn't realize that gesture has been around since at least then.
@definitelyimperfect you probably know by now but the actor who played hogan (brian cox) quit over poor conditions in crimea where they were filming
Thanks for the information. I really like him, he and Sharpe always arguing with each other.
Wellington's not a happy bunny it seems..
What happened to Nosey?
1:50
Munro advice to Sharpe:
"dire and dreadful" . . . "grovel cringe squirm and toady to the Lt. Ayres"
Wellington
"four score evidences of impending court marshalls - am I to add another"
Note: four score (skor Norse, scoru OE = 20)
They took me chicken...
A popular phrase then and now. XD
34,358 views...0 dislikes the way it should be for this video.
106k views 7 dislikes.... How times chance....
A scouser nicking stuff? Say it ain't so.
Hell yeah. They even nicked the league. Finally.
Lieutenant
3:43
wheres nairn gone?
What about Hugo? Did he go off looking for Logan?
Nairn was completely wrong anyway. Never a colonel and never Sharpe's CO.
Hagin over a chicken seems a bit much.they gave lashes before why didn't they institute that?
Hanging for /stealing/. It's the crime not what was stolen.
Too bad this episode is so far from what happens in the book. Get's pretty silly by the end, imo.
@Nurdbot they are now thats funny
Can ya tell why Lord Wellington's actor was changed too? cos i REALLY liked the Wellington in Sharpe's Rifles n' Sharpe's Eagle. don't remember that original actor's name now, but he was much more convincin n charismatic than Hugh Frasier as Wellington. I was SO DISAPPOINTED when i noticed the first time that Wellington wasn't the same guy anymore ;)....
OK 10 years later reply 🤣, The original actor had to leave because of medical conditions. His name was David Troughton.
@Nurdbot Everyone knows that if there was a real Sharpe he would have been a Scot and not and Englishman lol.
@Iwasateeninthe80s As evidence.
The Australian experience of the British who were brutal in shooting their own, in one case a Welsh lad who spoke no English, was shot for dis-obeying an order, made them make the shooting of their own soldiers illegal.
The British hated that, in WW1 and WW2 and so did the Yanks.
However the Aussie troops fought exceptionally well; mate-ship held them together.
What an absolute pile of shit you have written
I'm a self righteous keyboard warrior, who is going to shame a nation on unfounded evidence I heard off someone somewhere!!