ARE HONDA LAWN MOWERS STILL WORTH BUYING IN 2023?
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ARE HONDA LAWN MOWERS STILL WORTH BUYING IN 2023? Honda has always made an EXCELLENT MOWER! Unfortunately, their LAWNMOWERS are being discontinued as of September 2023. Should you still consider BUYING one before they're gone? Watch and see what I think as I UNBOX this HONDA HRX217VKA lawn mower. LIKE & SUBSCRIBE!!!
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Dang inflation is nuts right now.
@@kartboarder22g17 sure is!
@@kartboarder22g17 id paid $1,182.00 for my 12.3hp hrx2176 but its for sell upgrading to 16.5hp dr
@@kartboarder22g17😊😊😊😊😊😊😊”@
@@GarageGearwq
Pro tip, keep the original oil bottle for the next oil change. You fill the bottle with the exact amount of oil then pour in the mower it will not over fill.
Thanks for tip! Thanks for watching!
That is such a good tip. So intuitive yet I threw that little one that came with the mower away. Thanks
It is in the ballpark, but not necessarily a good idea. For instance, the oil supplied in the video is 12 fl oz, but the Honda stated engine oil capacity on the HRX 217 engine is 18.6 fl oz 10W-30. It seems to me that about 4 fl oz may have been left in the engine from the factory testing and even the manual warns about varying oil levels left in the engine and to confirm on fill and engine break in. Not to mention various methods of draining the oil on maintenance can vary wildly in their success rate at removing all used oil. In my experience with Honda motors and oil changes, I will let drain, and fill with 10 fl oz, then run for a few minutes and check the level and top off. After my first couple of mows I will double check the level and run for that season with periodic checks that something hasnt failed. Will filling with 12 fl oz like the initial top off container work, probably enough to not fail, but for my results and for my Honda to last as long as possible, I go with fill mostly, run, and top off to get best level to be sure.
Yes I do this when I change my trucks oil. Also helps to give an indication about how much oil you burn
@@Amouselives Agreed, the oil drain amount always varies.
I do miss the drain plug on the bottom. It did drain more of the oil in the engine, it was a pain but I always found it more effective than the tip over the side.
Lawn mower emissions. Lol what a joke. Hondas are the best.
Right!?! Thanks for watching hillbilly!
California will have grass issues everywhere first with nobody except council staff affording battery operated equipment to cut multiple lawns
I’m speechless. Emissions from mowers. Do politicians have vested interests in children-run copper/cobalt mines in 3rd world countries? The world has gone crazy.
A company that makes lawnmowers makes safer planes than Boeing!
@@DadolaurenovicAnd good luck with the billions (each EV has several thousand) of lithium batteries coming to your local landfills, polluting everyone's water supply.
"Market forces" such as "government regulations". At least they told people why they can no longer get these mowers. Thank your politicians.
Always sucks when they get in the way!
It is to bad they quit making Honda lawn mowers
It is a shamed, but you can get them while they last.
After opening the included 12-oz. bottle of oil, look inside to see the oil level, then mark that level on the outside of the bottle. Keep the marked bottle as a handy way to measure new oil for oil changes.
Good way to do it. Thanks for watching tt!
i never change oil for my lawn mower, look like it still working just fine
My husband is a diy guy and in the twenty five years we've had our house he has never purchased a mower. He finds them on the side of the road and fixes them to use for awhile and then give away to family and friends charging only for parts. Someone curbed this exact mower three years ago because it wouldn't start. He took it home, spent a weekend in his garage, and now it is his favorite mower. Starts first pull every time. I asked what was wrong with it and he said people are stupid.
Hey Andrea! This is awesome! I’ve found many on the side of the road as well. Fixed them up and sold them. Easy money. Your husband has a skill that will last a lifetime! Thanks for sharing! 👍
I found an old 86 toro mower on the side of road, fixed it up then gave it to my manager after a couple years of using it for myself and it started on fire lol
@@jonnysnipes3123 awesome!
Yea most mower engines are pretty rugged. I have fixed many old mowers the same way, most need work but the engines are still great.
I trashed picked my walk behind tiller and two stage snow blower. A few minor parts like filters etc, a good cleaning and a tank of non ethanol gasoline and they run better than new.
Same with outboard motors. I have had a few trash picked outboards the same way. Throw away society’s loss is my gain.
Not to mention the old boats I have gotten for nearly free, cleaned up an sold for thousands of dollars. A little scrubbing and maybe a touch or paint. Your hubby is correct, many people are stupid .
@@BillO964 thanks for sharing!
I bought a Honda Harmony in 1993 with a plastic deck like this one - it was expensive back then but I wanted a mower to last forever - it cost $500 if I remember right. The mower is perfect and the deck is better than any metal deck. I use it to this day.
Awesome my friend! Thanks for sharing!
Makes me feel good about the used HRX 217 HMA I bought. Has been amazing so far!
Have a honda lawn mower since 2010 now is 2023 still easy to start and cut the grass nicely
I bought the Honda HRX217HYA and gave my parents my Honda hrr216vka that was 10 years old. As you know, I’m a huge Honda fan. I called multiple dealers and even Honda themselves. Yes it’s true, in USA they are discontinuing all mowers and single stage snowblowers. Super sad 😢. Huge fan of your Channel. You didn’t grease his wheels haha
Crazy world we’re in now my friend! Changing times! Sad to see Honda getting out. Your an awesome fan my friend! Fan of yours as well! My neighbor watches my videos he can hit em! 👍 have a good rest of the weekend bud!
Just like VW quit importing the diesels after they were fined for fudging emissions numbers. People were regularly getting 50mpg in high reliability vehicles. Makes you wonder….is it worth the trade off?
Battery powered lawn mowers are limited and there's no strength in cutting thick grass with battery powered lawn mowers. Moving to battery it's absolutely garbage.
I agree! No longevity either! Thanks for watching!
honda uk is not stopping making lawnmowers. we have the hrx and hrn, as well as the hrg 'izzy', over here, just with different engines and different tunes for our strict emissions rules. you will definitely be able to buy parts for honda mowers for many years to come. they might eventually become a bit more expensive over time for transport costs, but they definitely will still be available
Awesome thanks for sharing Sammi!
My dad had a 1989 top of the line honda mower. Cast aluminum deck, shaft drive, real bearings in the drive wheels. Lasted 28 years before the deck was worn through. Engine still started on one pull. Honda's ad campaign at the time was the Clara Johnson test. I got my honda right before they started using plastic bushings on the drive axles.
These things just last! Thanks for sharing JT!
1988 HR214 here. Aluminum deck. Shaft drive. Blade brake. I paid a little over 500 then. Smokes a little when I first start but still runs great.
A tip: when you go to a dealer, and they look up the Quadra cut blade/belt adapter, it is listed in two parts of the parts catalogs one section has the part listed as 12 dollars, the other section has it listed for 75 dollars, if you are at the dealer, and they quote you 75 dollars, have them look it up towards the front of the parts catalog, they will find it much cheaper, different part number, but same exact part.
Thanks for sharing this knighthawk!
@@GarageGear Hi knighthawk
KnightHawk you are a lawn legend 🎉🎉
Mid 80’s HR 214 with key start. I used it as a kid growing up and still use it at my house! Key start and self propelled still works perfect!
Awesome my friend! Thanks for sharing!
Loved the comment “nothing beats the smell of a brand new Honda”! Smells like victory! Love my 5 year old Honda mower and always use non ethanol gas and do the tuneups myself.
ROCK ON JOHN! 👍
Here in Australia, I have a self-propelled mower Honda mower for more than 20 years it starts first time every time. I don't think the new Honda here come close to looking like your mower.
Hey Robert! Are you saying your mowers in Australia are of better or worse quality compared to ours? Thanks for sharing
Honda push and self-propelled mowers are simply the best mowers ever made, period. I've owned two and bought my family one and we've been using them for over 20 years. There simply isn't a better mower.
Honda makes a great machine Bert! Thanks for sharing
I agree. I bought my first one in 1983. HR-214 SMA which had a Key Start. Key start was a waste of money. I've had many since I buy them broken and restore them. Although the Honda's are excellent, I just bought a year 2000 Toro Commercial Mower. It has the Suzuki 5.5 HP 2-cycle engine. The self propelled system is harder to use than I like but the Mower's quality is like nothing I've seen before. Plus I use it to piss off the neighbors that turned in their gasoline Mowers for Battery Mowers and now think anyone that operated gas equipment is a Terrorist. Figured the 2-cycle would add to their frustration as they told me my quiet Honda Mower was ruining the Planet. Now they can see the smoke. They were good with gas yard equipment until the Green Bug bit them.
@@scotta9114 Wonderful! I attempted to buy Stihl battery lawn tools and the 300S batteries have depleted a great deal since I bought them. This EV scam is total BS. Everything battery powered that I've ever owned failed very quickly from All-Clad hand mixers, to Apple laptops, to iPhones to Stihl lawn equipment, including their self propelled lawn mower which I returned the same day I bought it. It was trash.
How much money $$$$$ does this Honda lawn mower Cost ? Thanks for sharing ! I Love Honda Motorcycles. I know one guy in Canada that makes and sells Log Splitters and is having trouble getting Honda engines for his splitters.
Hey stanley! This mower runs about $850-$1000 depending on the model. Thanks for watching
Can't companies just not sell to CA
Hahaha right? Let them fend for themselves! Thanks for watching!
Honda lawn mowers still going to be made, just not in the USA…
Thanks for sharing bd!
my third Honda mower 15 yr old HRX217HYA has hydrostatic transmission (no belts). Axle clips are slipping, wheels lock up, possibly need entire new transmission and, given the age of this, I no longer want to spend on more parts so off to the store for new mower. I can get the exact same model on sale but commercial version has reputation for durability beyond residential versions - so probably spend up for one given it will give me less problems given the issue of parts. My current gives me a fantastic cut on Bermuda grass and some forums say the commercial version (steel deck) does not cut as smoothly even though both have the twin blades. Any opinion on residential versus commercial version and even if I should not buy another Honda at all so Toro?
Hey half! A lot of subscribers mention that they love the Honda commercial mowers! No complaints about them. The toro commercial mowers are great too. I personally want the one with the Honda engine! Either will give you a great cut too!
I'm a toro personal pace guy but always wanted a Honda HRX217. I bought one last year. I found some issues with it. It was much heavier than toro personal pace. It's not as nibble as toro. Grass clippings would get jammed into the clippings selector. I had to power wash it to get all of the clippings out of the selector. The air filter had to be super clean in order to run well. I had to remove the air filter to get it to go up hill. I decided to stick with my toro. My lawn is about 2500sqf. Plus the personal pace feature is so much easier to use and just intuitive.
agreed with you 100% I also purchased an HRX217 a few years ago, gave it away a couple years later and purchased a toro personal pace super recycler, a lot of people dont know they are not as easy to maneuver as say a toro, love the engine, quality and cut, but if you have lots of trees etc then you are better off with a more manoeuvrable mower, my opinion.
Thanks for sharing malisha
Thanks for sharing zman
the nice thing about Honda is even if they stop making engine parts there’s chinese Honda cones out there you can buy from HF . therefore even though it’s not honda parts the honda cone parts should work , keeping your honda mower going . I unfortunately had to replace my old 2008 Briggs & stratton brute 6.5hp because the rear grass bag needed to be replaced and it was going to cost me $150-200 plus shipping and the wheels were also shot so it didn’t make financial sense. I wanted a honda Hrn216pkc but there $749 canadian and after reviews honda seems to have cut corners on theirs decks as well as using more plastic parts so i went with a toro 21445
I love my Honda HR214! It was my aunt's and I got it in '92 after she passed. It still starts on the first pull every time! All I've done is replace the carb and tune ups. 👍👍
Thanks for sharing! Honda makes a great machine!
They are the king of lawnmowers in Australia. All the mowing guys used HRU196 and HRU216. Heavy, but built to last 20+ years.
Thanks for sharing big Chief!
In Europe the HRU is called HRD (many names!) with the bulletproof GXV160 engine, mine is stil working after 27 years 🙂
@@Tintoycar Yes the GXV160 is outstanding. I have a HRU196 here also over 20 years old, still starts first time.
Disappointing that the rear roller models only seem to be available in the UK. I’m in the market for my first mower since moving to NZ, Honda obviously top of my list but I’m also considering a reel mower for the roller and a new experience
I bought hrx216 SPelled for about 950 at Northern Tool in March. I used it once and a safety device broke & would not let mower start. NT had the mower for 2 months and said Honda will NOT send us parts for repair. According to store mgr, honda was getting out of small mower business and they were unable to get parts for repair. Store was helpful, I returned mower and refunded my $. My question: is Honda no longer making and servicing mowers?
My bad, it was a 217, not 216.
Hey bill Honda is on a stop sale right now and are done making mowers in September.
Honda has had a good reputation for supporting their products long after their end of life. I'm sure the mowers will be no different. Especially considering how many of these are out in the wild.
Hey Smallblock I believe there will be some part out there for a while! Have a great weekend bud!
@@jeremynguyen2346 hey Jeremy
This is not aging well. Today is July 17th 2023 and I heard over the weekend Honda has stopped sale of all mowers because of defective starting issues with the camshaft sensors that are causing injuries.
Thanks for sharing this!
I read Honda will cease manufacture of gas mowers September 2023. Briggs & Stratton declared bankruptcy and was bought by KPS Capital. I bet they send manufacturing to china. That knocks out the vast majority of gas mowers. Sux.
I was one of the few and lucky people to be able to buy a HRX217HYA in 2020 during the peak of epidemic with very limited supply at MSRP of $750. Today the same mower costs $999. I love this mower. I tried battery electric and it doesn't perform as well. All these battery electric mowers claim to cut great, but they don't hold a candle to Honda. If you put a 4 year old EGO, Ryobi, Greenworks, Kobolt, or any battery electric up against a 4 year old Honda, honda will perform just as good like on day 1 since those 4 year old batteries will have degraded.
Battery is not the way to go that’s for sure.
💯 agree Chris! Thanks for sharing!
I agree. Yet so many people are buying batteries today. Not sure why. The last thing I want to worry about with a mower is having enough battery. My extended family likes Ego products (to each their own). I can't stand the ergonomics of the trimmer, and almost like clockwork the batteries are completely shot at the 3 year mark right outside the warranty period. They actually start to have issues at 18 months, not getting a long run time but Ego won't warranty them. And the batteries are $250- $450 depending on the size!
@@lazylearner967 crazy I know! You can buy a battery powered trimmer for $200-$250. Get 3-5 years out of it before it’s completely dead. Or you can buy an echo gas trimmer for $250 and have it for 20 years. You would have to spend nearly $1000 to equal that with battery stuff! They’re just taking your money lol!
It depends on the quality and type of cells. If lfp cells are used then they can last over 10 years without degradation.
BUT "HRC's" !!! Honda auto-chokes" are JUNK, and: "I'm on my 3rd choke 'sensor' for my old Honda". The new Commercials have a MANUAL Choke. LASTLY: The auto-choke works great ("when you use an accelerant"). GREAT CLIP !.
Thanks for sharing Tommy!
Man, I bought the same HRX217VKA Feb ‘22. And I’ve been super happy with it. This Spring it turned on the engine from the 1st pull after being “winterized” . I followed all the videos you did for it, specially your 30 mins oil break in when I bought it and yes sir, it was interesting to see all those specs in the old oil. I want to sit down and make a spare part list and buy them so I don’t have to have a hard time getting them. Keep up the great job filming videos.
Great plan Eugene! Appreciate the positive feedback bud! Thanks for being a cool fan!
Honda parts will be available for 10 years at least
@@royhobbs785 thanks for sharing Roy!
Would you suggest using full synthetic oil immediately after the 30 minute break in? Thanks
you can 100% thank California for this. 1 state should not be able to dictate the rest of the country and its policies in regards to emissions
💯agree! Thanks for watching!
I seriously considered a Honda mower last year, but the rear discharge was the deal-breaker. I bought a Toro Super Recycler.
Same here....no side discharge option really rubs me the wrong way
I’ll see if I can get a test mow in with it to see how she does!
My Honda lawn mower purchase has been a nightmare. I have the 217 model. It's been in the shop twice already. One for the camshaft recall that rendered the machine useless and now it's back in with an oil leak on the crank seal. Parts are on back order. Machine is 10 months old. Not happy with this purchase. $1200 Canadian.
@@chris36771 thanks for sharing this with the community chris
Took you advice and bought my last mower (3 others still working)! Used it one time and when I went to use it the next time, it didn’t work. Dealer stated it was the “cam”. Three people months later it was returned. Dealer stated that had a hard time getting a “good” cam….finally they got one that worked. I was tempted to return but knowing it was the last one, I kept it. I looked at other brands but there are no others like a Honda!
Glad you got one that worked Brenda! Thanks for sharing
I bought one and love it. I got tired of paying lawn guys $80 a month for sometimes showing up.
Smart move!
My Arien has a honda motor.....its about 20yrs old....it just took a shit......just like everything....the lawnmower prices have skyrocketed.,
Wild times were in! Thanks for watching nord!
Excellent play on leaving the box on his front porch!! He actually sounded pissed!! 😂😂 GOT EM!!
Hahaha we go after each other all the time! We went to high school together! Now I’m stuck with him as a neighbor lol! 😂🤷♂️😉
@@GarageGear its fun to gag with neighbors like that! Sounds like a good friend 🤙
@@fromex2lsturbo sure is! He’s a good neighbor to have! 👍
Jb, can you tell me if you have a loud noise/vibration coming from your lawnmower ( Honda hrn 216 vka) used, what is that usually from. Some say a bent crankshaft, or a bent blade. The noise sometimes goes away after a while but comes back. Can you help me?
Hey Eric! If the crankshaft is bent you’ll hear a consistent loud knocking noise when it runs. If it comes and goes I’m not exactly sure! I would make sure all nuts and bolts on the mower are tight. Perhaps something is loose and vibrating.
Knowing where Brian lives, i am surprised you didn’t carry it over there. But you got to protect those tires.
Haha got it all there in one trip! He didn’t want to be out in the cold for too long! Lol 😉😂
I had a John Deere 14SB, Honda, and the old Toro Commercial with the Suzuki engine and I wish I kept them all, the John Deere 14SB with the Kawasaki engine was my favorite of them all it was perfect IMO. Had the easiest to empty catcher and the fastest walk behind self propel. The Toro with Suzuki was damn good too.
Awesome thanks for sharing jas!
Hey brother, great video! I know I hate to see Honda make the decision, some of my commercial gear like aerators and dethatchers have Honda GX motors as does my PermaGreen ride on sprayer/spreader. I have 1 Honda mower in my collection for use at home along with my Toro TimeMaster. I still love my Honda.
It’s a bummer my friend! Fingers crossed they make them again in the future or another brand steps up their game. Thanks for watching as always! 👍
Is the Honda HRN a good lawnmower?
Sure is! Video coming out tomorrow on it!
I wish wheels was more "grippy". I have a little slope in yard and wheels keep spinning. Other than that I'm pleased with my purchase, it pay itself because my local lawn guy charged me $120 every month
I’ll agree with that! I suppose you could possibly try taking a dremel and carve more tread into the wheels lol! Definitely pays for itself!
these wheels hasnt changed in ages
I'm having a hard time pulling the trigger but I think I will get the hrx217hya. The hydrostatic drive and brake stop would be nice features.
@@markd9105 definitely nice features! 👍
One thing you missed is you should have checked engine oil level after filling just to make sure if didn't have too much.
Good idea thanks for sharing!
Here in the UK the Honda range already seems to have thinned out. We were looking for a 17 inch mower with electric start and self propulsion but only recoil start models were on offer. The other issue is the price. The Hondas are around 4 to 5 times the price of most other brands.
@@ColinMill1 good to know! Thanks for sharing Colin
My old 4 stroke Rover finally decided to die last week and I've been looking to replace it with a Honda, we get different models here in Australia though. Been looking at the HRU196M2 which is a 19" cut alloy deck push mower with a GXV160 4 stroke engine, seems like a super solid mower. I must admit though, I am a bit worried about spending all that coin and then having petrol mowers banned in a few years time. Cheers for the video!
Thanks for sharing NA!
I was using a Rover Scott Bonner GreenKeeper (23yo). Considered the same Honda till I looked at and just bought the Makita XGT 40v battery mower. Zero regrets. Awesome mower.
@@ecp4500 thanks for sharing!
Well bois, My HONDA that i ordered showed up tonight at Home depot ( HRX 217VYA ) Had it on the cart and heading out the door since it was paid for online, they STOPPED me and said sorry. Theres a STOP SALE on ALL Honda Lawn mowers right now, we cant let you take that.... WHAT??? After doing research Its true, Pallets and Hondas are being sent back due to a recall, rumour is something to do with camshaft?
Absolutely bummed right now. Im just hoping there will be a chance before they shut it all down for us to get the Honda mower we want before they are gone for good.... Still cannot believe this timing. LAMEEEEEE
**Edited**
You cant even FIND a Honda HRX or HRN or ANY honda mower on LOWES or Home Depot Online right now.... They are gone... Maybe its just for me being in alaska But WOW. This sucks.
Wow I wonder the story is with the camshafts? Thanks for sharing this! I hope this situation gets fixed fast!
I bought an HRX217 last year and love it. No problems. Easy to start, runs great, cuts amazingly well.
Can’t beat em!
Don't be CHEAP! Buy their commercial grade Mower.
A totally different product design and quality .
It WILL last you a lifetime.
Thanks for sharing bare
Congratulations on 50,000 subscribers JB.
Appreciate you as always WHITIE! What’s the plan for the weekend?
@@GarageGear getting my hair done and watching the snow melt. How about you guys?
@@WhitieInVermont there ya go! Editing the next one! Watching the grass go from brown to green. Slowly… few more weeks and we’re mowing! 👍
My 1972 honda is still going strong despite it being abused at times!
Keep it running! Thanks for sharing!
I completely agree with you about Honda mowers. I have an HRX 217 HXA that I have had for over ten years. I maintain it myself and it runs like a charm. Before I had the Honda, I went through a series of Craftsman mowers. Never again!
I recommend Honda mowers to anyone who asks me about my mower. Half of my neighbors now have Honda mowers, with which they are very happy. As you do, I trust Honda to have mower parts available for decades. If my old Troy-Bilt 3090 snow blower were not such a dependable beast, I'd have a Honda snow blower, too. Honda engines RULE!
Regards! 👍👍
ROCK ON JERRY! Can’t go wrong with a Honda! Thanks for watching!
I went crazy three years ago and bought a HRC 216. I figured it would last me the rest of my life or till I can’t mow my own grass anymore. My theory is you buy cheap you get cheap.
💯 agree Lyn! Thanks for watching!
I purchased my HRX in 2003 when they first hit the market.
Always a great mower. Starts easy and runs smooth.
My previous home had a steep yard front and rear. The transmission failed in 2017 so I replaced it = no other issues.
All original except for trans and spark plug.
Mower just keeps on going great. I sharpen my own blades and do all maintenance.
This mower may outlast me as I'm 73 now.
You got another 20-30 to with it at least! 😉 thanks for watching Joe!
I have had an EGO for 2 years. Self Propel just went out, and the battery only last 18 months. I keep batteries indoors. 1 warrant battery @ $399 battery and this one has a 90 day. So, in two years $400 battery and probably a self propel motor. Never had a gas mower break that I could not go to the parts store and fix the same day. When the Hondas come back from recall, I am buying one and take care of it like a 64 impala. I will get 10 years out of it. The electric? $849 mower, $400 battery x 3 $1200 and that's warranty on every other one. $2000 in 10 years to own an EGO not to count down time. If it breaks after 5 years. Big loss. If it breaks within 5 years, you have to send it in, months lost. You need a gas one anyways. I mow year round. Electric is not reliable.
Great information here! Thank you for sharing Texas truth!
I enjoy your videos. Thank you
Appreciate you Bob! Thanks for being a cool fan !
They recalled 400,000 of these for faulty decompressor , bucket engine with plastic cam gears are junk! Honda use to be good but are junk with these models now. 32yrs mechanic!
Thanks for sharing
I have an HRX and love it. Like you said it a one pull machine from the day I purchased it. The only thing I wish was available is a high lift blade. It bags fine but I find during the leaf season some extra suction would be an improvement. Honda has always been a pricey product line but you get what you pay for!
You absolutely do John! Thanks for watching!
All mowers are one pull machines if properly serviced and maintained.
If you think Hondas are pricey, wait til gas mowers are phased out almost completely, even mid level electric mowers are the same if not more than a premium level honda, once you include the batteries
@@pillcosby3949exactly, we can’t let the government ban our gas mowers, they just want to make more money of us.
I bought a Honda Commercial mower approximately 30 years ago. It's finally come to the time to replace it. I was sad to hear they will no longer make them in the USA. France will still make them for Europe. The tires are cracked and coming off of the wheels. The pull chord retracter is worn out and motor is smoking. But Hey, its been 30 years. Glad I bought a commercial model for the extra power when I did. One complaint I had was that it was a little under powered and when the grass got really heavy it couldn't handle it. There was no option to just blow it out of a shoot and rake it. You have to bag or mulch. Mulching takes a lot of horse power. And bagging on a big yard is not practical. Stil,, I'm shopping for another Honda.
You’ll find one! Keep an eye out! Thanks for sharing my friend!
I love Honda mowers, especially the dual blade setup, but honestly the tire tread are really poor. Especially on the drive tires. I’m lucky to get 2 seasons out of the drive wheels before the tread wears off and they come apart. There’s a reason the big box stores have plenty of Honda replacement tires for sale. Which are not cheap.
I have the commercial version and the traction sucks
Ditto! 12 year old HRR. On my 4th set of wheels and the front ones bow outwards / \ no matter which hardware I replace. Having said that, the engine runs and the mower mows like the day I bought it. Just those darned wheels!
How many lawns do you do with the machine a week?
Thanks for sharing!
I mow 3 quarter acre house lots with my Honda mower. From mid April to mid November. If you subtract the houses, driveways, sidewalks, landscaping and patios, we’re not talking a lot of grass that gets mowed. When your putting out $500+ for a mower, you should expect the wheels to last more than 2 years. Honda should stand by their product, but then again they are getting out of the lawn mower business, aren’t they?
I’m going to buy a Honda mower this weekend. Should I get the HRN 216 or HRX 217? I know the wheels are different and I like the rubber tires. Is that the only advantage?
Bigger engine and the bag deflector and huge advantages too.
As a small business owner in the lawnare business . Ive added one of these to my arsenal for the small city lots . Love that mower . Does a great cut as always.
These machines ROCK! Thanks for watching moodee
I have 7 of them. I cut about twice a week
@@temujinkhan6326 you must have alot of small yards.
@@temujinkhan6326 thanks for sharing!
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Would love to have them send me one! I’ll see what I can do! 👍
Still have my HR215HXA from the 90’s. Mowed with it twice last week, since my Electric riding mower was having a “lack of sufficient charge” problem. Filled the tank with gas, turned in the fuel, and start on second pull. I hadn’t used the Honda mower for 5 years. Still works like a champ. 😎
Honda for the win! Thanks for watching dig!
Picked up my HRX217HZA today,to replace my poor running toro super recycler vortex with the 163 briggs that i bought new in April.4 times back to the dealer and it still doesnt run right…done with it.excited to try my first Honda!!!
Awesome whiskey! Thanks for sharing
I still use my Honda lawn mower that I bought brand new in 1996 when I was mowing lawns commercially. Still, starts 1st-time pull. Used it 5 days a week 6-7 lawns a day for 8 years. Now that is reliable.
Definitely reliable! Thanks for sharing!
First, i love my Honda lawn mower. But what a terrible ending. On September 14th of 2023, about 391,800 Honda lawnmower and pressure washer engines were recalled for improper manufactered cam shafts. Right when Honda is stopping production of their lawn mowers. It will be interesting to see how they handle this recall.
It will be interesting to see how they handle this!
Awesome Video!! I have this exact lawnmower and I love it!! It's sad to think Honda won't be making them anymore!! All because of the currupt EPA!! I would love to see you do a full service on this mower! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Hey cl! Sad I know! Perhaps down the road I can! Thanks for watching
Don't worry. After 5 years of making battery mowers that fail, or need a fleet of batteries to keep going, the gas engines will be back.
@@jayjaynella4539 hey Jay! I still don’t see any commercial guys carrying battery stuff. Dozens drive past my house and work in my neighbor’s lawns. No batteries in sight. Thanks for watching
Honda push-mowers are freaking garbage! Being a welder and machinist, I've lost count of the number of times I've had to work on my parents Honda push-mower. The engine is rock solid but the self-propel system is a joke which means your dragging that piece of crap most of the time and it's a heavy bastard to boot!
The solenoid for the starter was DOA right from the dealership which was apparently a sign of things to come!
The Troy-Bilt push-mowers are much lighter, cheaper, and hold up better than a Honda in the long run.
If you buy a Honda self-propelled, my advice is start familiarizing yourself with the parts manual because the drive-train is a FREAKING MONEY PIT especially the spur gears that drive the wheels 😉
Thanks for sharing
No...I find myself..they're not even a nice mower to use.They heavy..bulky..and they don't have the power as B&S 6.75hp..& $$$$$😮😮😮😢
Thanks for sharing!
Well got my lawn mower back they basically replaced the entire engine part by part. Honda didn't send a complete engine, but they had my dealer rebuild it. It now runs perfectly. No joke, though now the transmission went (the mower isn't even a year old). Honda authorized a brand new transmission so essentially I have a brand new engine and a brand new transmission. Doing my first cut since getting it back this week. Hopefully my saga is over with and this baby lasts a long time. Time for the 30 minute warm up and oil change and then Amsoil synthetic it is!!
Glad you got your mower back and you’re ready to tackle this season! After the warm up and oil change, it will be good to go!
Hello! I have a Honda related question. Just bought a HRN216 pkc and now I hear about a possible recall or sell stop. One dealer said it was just the blade-stop versions affected and he could not sell it…..Any idea to what is going on?
Watched all your videos about your hrn and got inspired to get one. Thanks for good and informative videos. 👍 Grateful for answer about the stop sell issue. // Lars, Quebec, Canada
Hey Lars I’m trying to get some more info myself. I’ll keep you posted!
I was gonna ask about the parts being discontinued. I already have two replacement spark plugs and I am hoping to get some air filters and maybe some wheels just in case.
I believe propartsdirect.com will have all you need for them! Thanks for watching
Does California's ban on sales of new gas powered equipment less than 25 horsepower that goes into effect January 2024 effect sales of engines not mounted in equipment? Or is it engines and equipment?
Hey clearance man! Great question that I don’t have an answer to. I believe engine and equipment but I could be wrong!
The old HR 214, and 215 mowers were the best Honda mowers ever made. Back when honda used GXV engines on residential equipment. As they get older, some do have a tendency to smoke a little, though.
They’re old enough to smoke though … lol😂
My son has a lawn care business and the Hondas DO NOT cut well... with the factory dual blade system. We switched to the single Copperhead blades by Rotary Corp. and the cut is much better. There are various replacement blades on the market for the factory Honda dual blades and I think you'll find your mowers cut better with a single blade. Take care and Happy Mowing!
Thanks for sharing freedom
I have a MTD mower with a Honda gcv 160cc engine that I bought on sale for around $150 from Walmart 17 yrs ago, still starts and runs like new. Sucks Honda will stop making mowers. I might have to buy a Honda mower this summer while I can still get one. Id hate for my reliable mower to die in like 2 yrs and be forced into buying something with that Briggs and Stratton garbage on it.
Not a bad plan!
Quality video. I used my mower just today and only saw this video after the fact. I didn’t let my engine run for 30 minutes or drain the oil. Hopefully it’ll be okay? 😅
I think you’ll be fine! Thanks for watching justin!
My neighbor has a Honda with the 190cc engine. And guess what he didn’t put oil in it. Otherwise it looks brand new. Will the 200cc engine work in place of the 190cc. Honda doesn’t make the 190 anymore. Thanks. Now subscribed
Hey Robert! If the bolt pattern matches up it should work just fine! Thanks for watching and subscribing! Welcome to the tribe!
I bought a Toro gas powered blower and that thing was so badly made in terms of engine and crank balancing, my hands will shiver long after I finished the job and it would shut off in hot afternoons. Never bought another Toro product. I have had many Honda products and all of them keep ticking smooth like a fine mechanical watch. Honda is the way to go.
Honda is definitely the way to go
Nope, not buying your hype. At about $1000 this is a terrible idea unless you have money to throw away. The motors are fine, I gave had a few mowers with Honda engines, and they do last and perform well. But buying a full Honda branded mower is such an upcharge that it doesn't make sense. I can get 2-3 Honda motor mowers for this and if each one lasts 5 years, that's 15 years of service for the same price with a totally new refresh ever 5 years. I'm also not convinced they cut any better and that the features are just gimmicks to help justify the price. The base is plastic, which is fine, but should drive the cost down, not up. Bad idea.
Thanks for sharing
Bought a brandy new Honda mower a few years back. Yes, 1 pull start but engine surged forever more. Considered a carb clean out but geez!!! this thing never even hit the grass. Was told Aha!!! You put gas in it with corn. Got some way overpriced ethanol free stuff. Same thing. Scratch the head. Bought a bottle of mechanic in the bottle on Amazon. Dumped the whole bottle in and worked the throttle with my finger wide open trying to blow it up. Soon it smoothed out and now purrs like a kitten. Whoda thunk it. Yo.
Thanks for sharing this Neil! 👍
Thank the liberals with their stupid regulations...when you can't buy a Honda gas mower in the future.
All these regulations are never any good
so if I can count: my Iseki with a Briggs 575 on it cost me 620 euros. Fine and light alu chassis, new generation engine and good barings. . Suppose that machine will last for 10 years. Then take my Honda HRX which cost me 1850 euros that should last for 30 years. I don't say Honda is bad, not at all but it is costly. Also their maintenance scheme is costly. I don't see that happening. I once let me convince that Honda was the top of the bill but there are many machines that are also good and that cost a third of the price. The thing also is as a professional maybe you are going to choose for Honda or Toro. But these machines also are in your books. You will sell them after a couple of years and renew them. So you are operating at a higher cost. That is my logic.
Thanks for sharing Dec!
I would have to disagree with you big time, that mower does not mulch at all and if you're a serious mulcher dont buy this mower. I have a 216, and I would trade this mower for one that's 20 years old. The power of the motor is seriously lacking, it has a double blade system that can't mulch worth a crap and that's due to the stupid bs design of the plastic piece that opens and closes for bagging or mllulching. The grass clippings blow out around that plastic gaurd and jams up the lever constantly and mulching doesn't work. It constantly jams up the stupid lever that you need to move if you want to bag the grass. You have to clean after pretty much every single use. I bought a briggs and stratton from Walmart that I sold to my brother when I moved to Texas, and that mower was $100 cheaper had all the same features, and it worked 100x better
Thanks for sharing
HI i have question which gas should i used for my 2023 Honda Lawn Mower, ( Ethanol free or Regular gas) which is better for Honda lawnmower. thanks
Ethanol free all the way! Thanks for watching
Make sure your friend registers that mower. Huge recall on certain engine serial numbers from late 22 into 23 calendar year. Issues with decompression assembly on cam.
The fix isn't easy and requires a complete teardown of engine to replace part.
Thanks for sharing jason
I’ve had my Honda mower for about 3yrs now it has the double blade and honestly I don’t think it does a very good job cutting my yard. I have to go over the same spot multiple times cuz it leaves behind these single blades of grass all over the yard that it didn’t even cut
Hey B rad, thanks for sharing! Do you keep your blades sharp?
I just want for the gas stained Nexite deck on my 1 year old HRX to get replaced under warranty. Gas splotches everywhere. That's a materials/fluids compatibility issue. Guess I'll be waiting until the end of the season at the end of the warranty.
Thanks for sharing!
Internal combustion engines are a tactical advantage to any country in a dire state of emergency. It’s all fun and giggles until you run out of other peoples money, sun or wind. Love all my Honda stuff. Never selling. Ever. Bulletproof? You bet! :)
💯 agree Chad! Thanks for sharing!
Apparently it is only the US factory that is stopping production. They will still be made and sold in Europe via a France factory, so these things will still be made and hopefully that means parts will continue to be attainable.
I would say parts should be available for a while. 👍 thanks for sharing
Gotta tell ya I have a 1991 Honda HR 215 master series aluminum deck bought it new and still running strong with regular maintenance no problems always starts !! Gonna keep it till the thing eventually conks out whenever that is !! LOL !! 😸
Thanks for sharing scholls!
I’m looking to replace my Troy Bilt TB360 190cc. All I’m finding at the stores are around 150-160cc for $500. THF
Sounds about right nowadays
Very happy with my HRN. I mow an acre once a week. Can I put the HRX wheels on my HRN? I've been told they have a bushing rather than being plastic. Thank for the reply.
I don’t think they will fit! The drive gears may not match up. Worth a look tho.
Buy all you can afford there is gold silver and then Honda lawn mowers I have four an hr217 2 hr214 and a harmony I use all 4 the harmony takes all the abuse 1 hr214 has side shut 1 hr214 for bagging the Hr 217 does mulching and leave duty and enough parts for the next 100 years when ever I see one set out for the garbage I pick it up for spare parts all I can say is if you don’t own at least one Honda lawn mower your missing out on the most enjoyable part of life something that still lasts forever
ROCK ON JOE! Awesome that you have so many! Thanks for sharing!
I don't really know what people are expecting with the electric movement. Where do they think cobalt and lithium comes from? Trees? Batteries haven't really advanced much.
💯 agree dense! I heard a rumor that we may run low on those if this production keeps increasing over the years.
nice thing about honda is even if they stop making parts there’s the chinese Honda cones out there and they make parts that should fit a real Honda . i bought the toro 21445 because it seems the cheaper Hrn216pkc that’s $749 canadian from my research has a cheaper deck and the engine has more plastic parts and there not as good as they once were
Thanks for sharing classic!
Honda buffalo 5 HP commercial, well over 25 years, working perfect
AWESOME JIM!
Brand new Honda starts on the first pull? Hell, my 30 year old JD with a 190 Briggs does that.
Thanks for sharing Don!