Chris Trotter & Martyn Bradbury react to Jacinda Ardern's resignation
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It's taken a long time to take the title off robert muldoon as nz most hated prime minister , jacinda was special.
As much as I despised Rob Muldoon back in the day no PM since has shared his genuine love for NZ and NZers.
Thus, Rob slips into third place best PM of my lifetime behind Big Norm and Bill Rowling.
He may not have been liked but he got things done.Look at his think big project.He got important power stations etc built.Now with printing and spending billions of dollars we DONT have all we have are pot holes,huge crime,familys in hotels.Just imagine what mr muldoon could have done for THE COUNTRY if he had 20 to 50 billion dollars to spend.We would be in the same dept but have a hugely better country to live in.
@@jeremyashford2115 I once briefly hosted the man and his wife in my family's home. He had a sense of humor, and an empathy for his fellow man.
@@Williamottelucas yes Thea used to arrive in a chauffeur driven Bentley to have her hair done, I washed it as a young apprentice in the 70's.
Some of the goss was funny regarding Rob's penchant for a whiskey or three 🥃👋🏻🥴💛
@@God-Zin-uru She did most of the talking at our home during the 20 minutes or so that they were there, while Rob sat dozing in the sun in an armchair. That armchair had a loose arm, and my father was worried that it might drop off! This was in about 1987.
i hate when women play the misogyny card; after all wasn't she 'adored' all around the world? Many people just don't like her and she gave many of us good reason for that. Her gender has nothing to do with it.
Eh historically women make kinda crazy rulers.
Gender probably does play into why she acted like she did but it's no excuse for why people hate her. If she was a man the masses would probably be more riled up. She played onto the fact she was a woman from the start and tried to push this weird gross "mother of the people" thing, she probably knew no matter what happened she can play a victimhood card.
Toni, don't you love that you tried to downplay the misogyny (which, she's never... ever mentioned herself, it's everyone else that notices) and your comment is enthusiastically followed up by someone trying to agree with you, yet sensationally backhanding an entire gender with "women make kinda crazy rulers" 😅😂🤣
@@shadowbanned1999 Could you name a war started by a female leader please... At any point in history will be fine thanks
haha, well I agree with the 'crazy rulers' comment but not because I'm misogynistic. Men and women rule differently.
@@daveyboots79 Cleopatra, Catherine the great, Isabella of Spain. There's a study out there somewhere showing the statistics of war in Europe during the medieval era and it showed female rulers were like 26 or something more likely to start a war but they also we're more likely to gain land during there rule.
Her resignation was widely expected - done her bit for WEF as her peer Trudeau is doing to Canada. New job at UN or BlackRock?
You do know that the WEF is about neoliberal (capitalist) economic policies and governance.
No retirement in her Tairua home paid for by Pfizer and Blackrock.
Don’t forget she met and signed (late last year) with Bill Gates the introduction of a digital ID for New Zealanders.
Yes the UN maybe, back home there is the shooting lodge at Queenstown that the BF was set to manage while Ardern travels the world doing a Hillary Clinton "Play For Pay" she has already made millions out of it.
BlackRock I reckon,she paid them a visit last year.
She messed with the Sovereignty of the land. She reaps
Only people who messed with the sovereignty of this land were racist British colonizer land thieves in the 1800's Get your facts right beast
I voted for her but could not have imagined the amount of division and hurt her policy's would have caused. She just didn't listen and was far from kind. She didn't look after us as a faithful caring steward should have and consequently caused a rift in the fabric of society. If she had been open to alternative points of views and found ways to help collaborate and cooperate to help move things forward then I would have held more respect for her. But as it were we had none of this. I won't miss her and hope we will find someone who can give us hope and bring unity to this great country.
Amen to that.
Beware false prophets.
Treat voting as you would, buying a house. Dont be fooled by a thin coat of paint
Don't do it ever again.
I hear you bro
Flicked on talk back last night, Marcus lush show, could only stand about 5 mins, all praise for jacinda, how blind many people are.
Can't stand Lush, so make sure I don't tune in at his time slot. Yet the next host praised her, was a leftist show, so turned him off. This morning again, Roman Travers doing the same, so turned off. 1ZB has gone woke! Shame the late Bruce Russell, is not here to call it as he sees it.
Then there's Paddy Goldenshoa🥴🚿
@@gayledenholm987 Roman Travers did not praise her if you listened to his whole show, just getting the headlines again
Do you think such People should "go to Specsavers"? They not only supply a vast array of eyewear but also do hearing test? Sorry must run, the radio station is playing "3 blind mice..."
What she destroyed is irreversible, she has blood on her hands, the resignation is just an easy run away for her.
You talk rubbish fool
@@sambrockgareth Or it's you?
Calm down, what a bunch of hyperbole.. name 'what' exactly she destroyed, and then 'what' she has blood on her hands for... Be specific, without the hysterical narrative please.
@@daveyboots79 geez. You got walls for eyes?
Election promises?
100k houses....
End child poverty
End homelessness
Reform stormwater and environment for the good...
Pick any one, and it's an abject failure.
In doing this, she has driven a division in the ONE country in the world which had ZERO racist issues, zero terrorism, and a low crime rate.
We now have jabbed vs unjabbed.
We have rich vs poor.
Destroying farming with dumb, useless legislation.
Hell, couldn't even take industry advice on how to phase out caged eggs.
@@masksarelies391 Those are political issues / shortcomings you could apply to any outgoing leader / party... Not one thing you mentioned equates to the hysteria trying to be created as if she's Pol Pot.
The fact you think that NZ had "zero" racism before her leadership just makes it hard to take you seriously... and you accuse me of not being able to see 🙄
Mahuta can rely on 15% of the vote, the rest of nz will definitely vote against her. And Labour.
Mahuta's self serving history in the Labour gvt will give you an idea what will happen 10 fold.....so she alone if nominated new leader will take the Labour party down the poles to depths not seen before.
3 waters killed labour , isn’t a farmer , agriculture food grower or anyone living rurally will ever support Mahuta policy .
Will the Government release the emails and manuscripts between Jacinder Ardern and Klaus Schwab from the WEF meetings and talks they had this is a big question that the votes of NZ should view.
Surely you wouldn’t put that shit in writing. Verbal only…
@@nonfictionone The world economic forum it’s not hiding anything it is all out there to see what they are trying to achieve where the people agree with it or don’t I’m guessing you don’t know that much about them it would pay to have a quick look into it so you understand what they are doing. Right when our politicians go overseas and have meetings everything is documented nothing is meant to be hidden for this very reason some things are kept under confidential wrap others are there to be seen but I tell you the world economic forum has no qualms about what they’re trying to achieve whether that the people think it is right or wrong. Also The reporters at the New Zealand Herald newspaper are trying to get these transcripts and emails released under the official information act because as Jacinda Ardern said that she is the pulpit of truth so if they are true to there word they will release these documents.
PS Did you know that the world economic forum actually existed before reading this article and comment for what I have found that a lot of people in this world don’t know they exist and what they are trying to do mainly because they’re too busy trying to survive by earning a living and paying their bills thanks for listening.
Oh the irony!
Jacinda mandated people out of their jobs, which made her so disliked that she had to quit... Lol
Not people……unvaccinated people, quite a different thing….twister.
@@banjopete you mean unvaccinated people are not people? And what do you mean exactly by "unvaccinated"?
@@authenticshift5515 - I have no sympathy unless its was on medical grounds to antivaxers, as they made a decision not to be vaccinated putting the country at risk during the Delta outbreak.
@@banjopete really? So someone choosing not to be a guinea pig for big Pharma isn't a person? I really struggle to understand folk with this type of mentality.
🎵banjo pete🎶deliverance springs to mind☝🏻🥴
So she knowingly dug her own political grave and wants sympathy for it.
How inappropriate to liken Jacinda to Big Norm.
Norm Kirk remains my favourite PM from my lifetime (now in my seventh decade). Next is Bill Rowlng and strange as it may sound the next is Rob Muldoon. None since those three have shown any particular love for our country or its people, preferring to put their energies into self aggrandisement, and, in the case of the Labour leaders, pursuing a program that places NZers down the list of their concerns, while following programs set by the UN.
Jacinda Ardern by contrast with Kirk has been the least caring, despite her posturing, and in my lifetime the worst PM ever. No other New Zealander from my recollection has brought such loss of freedoms and none has caused more death.
Jacinda Ardern is the opposite of Norm Kirk.
David Lange ?
💯👍❤️
Muldoon was my favourite and next is Norm Kirk. None of the parties these days have the interest of the ordinary man in the street as they are too busy catering to special interest groups as you so eloquently said.
Muldoon did his level best, he rooted the economy utterly decimated it, the one good thing was his think big projects beyond that a bully tyrant and in general not a person to be inspired by in any way what so ever, the only PM to do more damage to NZ may be JA but we will have to wait and see just how much damage has been done.
You obviously don’t know what was never allowed to be spoken about him. They all have skeletons in their cupboards. They are politicians!!!
Nah, you are getting only a small part of the story. Not only did she not get the job in New York but the succession deal with Mahuta was, in the end, not acceptable to the core of Labour. The resignation was the only option that gave Labour some time to prepare for the election. Labour is still in the historical position of being short of Parliamentary talent. Jacinda doesn’t leave a vacuum, she leaves a bottomless pit.
Richard well said!
jacinda is a joke, end of story.
jabcinda,her legacy a killer no jab no job 1000s outa work,dead n dying ok.
Labours talent pool is about the size of one of those kiddies plastic play pools you get from the Warehouse for $15. Mind you not that National got the pick of the litter either.
You are talking through a hole in your head. Are you a conspiracy theorist. And by the way the earth ain't flat
The most devisive and tyrannical PM in NZ’s history. This country has many years to heal from the tin pot tyrant.
The comment of "back to White blokes in charge" is an observation - sure - but I don't care about gender, sexual preference, race or creed - I just simply want leadership to be competent and Labour has failed miserably... I wish I could say that National had anything much to offer but they aren't looking very good...
I hang my hat on the fact that Chris Luxon is a businessman and a team leader, ACT with Seymour, he's a good(politician) man, and Winston will rise again with NZ First. We need a united NZ and not the separatist policies of the last few years.
There’s always WINSTON !😂
“Blokes” may not be strictly accurate. Perhaps Cucks.
Any man who praises Jacinda, whether sincerely or otherwise, is not a born leader.
@@stevehughes1510 - A NACT government will create the current economic and social mess worse so they can pander to their corporate masters.
Exactly, throwing misogynist comments is a joke, if someone is incompetent its not misogyny, its dislike for whoever's actions. The contant lies and deceit, unwillingness to speak to the plebs, she's definitely not "kind"...another lie.
Why feel sorry for her, she engineered her demise with the policies she espoused..
Didn't Mr Robertson sign off on all the wasteful spending, let's not forget that, We need a financial minister who will not bow down to pet projects of elite Maori and spend tax payers money unwisely in a time of financial stress in this country.
Exactly.
Spot on!
Jacinda’s vilification was justified. She earned every bit of it. Pretend all you’d like she didn’t destroy people’s lives with her policies. Worse off across every sector. Many of her authoritarian nanny state handling that violated human rights- which you all seem to be ok with- wasn’t necessary. It’s also not going to be forgotten. Rewrite all you’d like.
Well said. A cruel, tyrant whose Marxist policies have ruined NZ.
Agreed. It is all too easy for these commentators to gloss over how deeply the mandates disaffected tens of thousands of us. The wonder is that most of us hung onto a relatively moderate and rational perspective despite horrendous provocation.
They are completely ignoring the Elephant in the room and continuing to blame anti Vac views is wilful ignorance. Ardern didn’t want to face the music from the fallout of her poor decisions.
The clue was she said she wasn't going to do it..... She has done most things she said she wouldn't
she also has done little that she said she would.
She was ordered to go. Hence the emotion. If it had been her decision, she wouldn’t have shed a tear.
God! I have had a smile on my face all day and have to stop and realise why😁 The scourge has been removed/ pushed 😊🎉
Don't get too excited..
She is 'out of here' because of her stance on COVID 19 and now finds herself on the wrong side. She probably resigned in case of being held responsible for her COVID actions which was criminal and evil. ☘️☘️
Rule 1- for Marxist, liberterian, Atheist, Dawinist ,Anti traditional kiwi families and anti bill of rights politicians is , if your backs against the wall - "devour your own".
Tradie analysis.
The worst people are those who honestly think, no matter how authoritarian they are, that they are doing what is best for you. Every deed, every restriction, every compulsion, every policy is a difficult decision and may be questionable, but their consciences are salved, they know they are doing what is best and this is good; this is their kindness.
@@sollyharr Well I did write it initially and now I am just sharing bc that is the sort of 'kind' person I am...
The original by Lewis Carroll is better.
@@jaysdood or CS Lewis?
The overbearing mother.
Brilliant 👏 you summarize her perfectly and helen Clark was exactly the same
She could'nt handle defeat, Weak weak weak.
The unvaccinated are trolled by the public writ large. Give me a break!
Jabcinda was a bully , pushing the needle hard 💉💉💉 now look what’s coming out 💔💔💔
Why don't you ask John Key why he resigned? I think you'll find they are the same if you could get to the truth of it.
Not the same reason , but they both resigned when given an ultimatum from a third party.
@@michaelpether1331 Domestic or internationally? I and all my friends believed (separately) when they heard, WEF has compromised their position/power trying to make them submit to a higher (unelected) force. Let's see what happens with the next long-standing PM?
She had blood on her hands
And they've managed to skim past talking about that.
looked a bit more urgent than she would like. NZ rejoice
Mahuta for pm… is she deluded?
THAT resignation speech of hers was THE one and only genuine emotion I have seen her display...It will always be the yard stick we can measure her by......SOMETHING has happened and she is jumping ship before it comes out. Had it been her own decision, we would have had a different speech...one like the BS she has used for the last 5 years. I wish her nothing but pain and misery.
Gosh what a horrid comment. What does that say about you, that you're the type of person that wishes pain and misery on other people..?
Yeah, her costume and frowning at Chch didn't endear me at all. I can see thru all that acting.
Are you sure it was genuine?
JESUS LYN GET A LIFE
Wishing her pain and misery just shows how hateful and down right evil you right-wingers are. As for emotions, you see what you want to see to justify your hate, your fact-free desperation to find something sinister about her leaving also is an attempt to justify your hate.
what she has left us is a seperate Maori corcase.....what happened to the team of 5 million
Thanks for inviting Chris Trotter. He is one of the most astute commentators on New Zealand current affairs and politics.
It was just more excuses and not getting to the point that Jacinda and her Govt largely failed at everything they attempted. Everyone wants to take a deeper dive into this but the fact is that she failed mainly due to promotion on sex, race agenda and not ability, it was doomed to fail from the start like most pie in the sky socialist ideas.
She was most likely pushed by her boyfriend who would be sick of being housebound with his child and all the crap that goes with that job. I think he has told her to put on an apron and get back in the kitchen while he goes to the pub or its over.
dumb comment says everything about you
I have friends who partied hard out back in the day with him. I'll leave it at that!
@@justinpreid ewww!🥴
Make me a sandwich.
Cook me some eggs women
The death threats are so disgusting😢
totally agree. I can't stand her personally, but threats of violence are never acceptable.
I agree, I think she's evil but don't agree with that sort of behaviour. Is there any proof of these death threats or just heresay?
@@sleepinggiant5161 She's had all sorts of death threats, multiple people through courts charged with threats of physical harm to her and her family. I'm stoked to see her leaving the role, but at the end of the day she's a person and threats of violence against her is just totally unacceptable. We all want to live in a peaceful world.
@@markelliott6112 well theres a reason for it.
If any of my family died due to "mandated" procedures...Im pretty sure I would be "unacceptable "
like most bullies....she handed it out but couldnt take it. She deserved all the flack, and more, the worst PM ever
Back perhaps in September I heard Winston Peters on the radio allude to quote “a tectonic shift” coming in NZ politics but that the media weren’t talking about it. Was this on the table for so long?
For me it was clear that Jacinda would not seek re-election due to the fact that she would get thrown out and that would hurt Brand Jacinda. She made her own bed when she became a dictator.
Really good analysis and insights way ahead of any msm political reporting or opinion pieces. Jacinda has always strived to be loved by everyone now shes hated by a faily strong majority and she couldnt stand that any longer.
You can fool some of the people some of the time, and you can fool 60% of the people all of the time but that is not enough for the narcissist Jacinda Ardern.
@@jeremyashford2115 shes not A NARC.....derrr
Jucinda has finally done the only honest thing she will do in her entire life .
Are you really suggesting she has started telling the truth?
I sincerely doubt it.
@@jeremyashford2115 no ,she has stopped telling us lies as a politician .
Only to avoid repercussions and accountability.
As a socialist and long time labour supporter one who doesn't always agree with your political views.
That was an amazing interview.
Great insight Great respect.
Karl Marx is the father of socialism. And there have been many socialist leaders in history. Stalin, Lenin, mao zedong, salvador Allende, Hugo Chavez. They all ruined the society they lead. Great precedents of socialism.
@@Here.now123 worst excuse ever for excusing a pathological lier, you think you can stand in court of law and say I'm a human and people going to say case dismissed?
Worth an🍎and cream donut or two💨🤍
@@Here.now123 all you jacinda supporters talk like that, think that ignoring lies and saying be nice etc makes everything OK lol. I was telling people about the wrecklesss spending back when it was happening g and they spoke like you. They stood their lieing silencing journalists and eventually the facts surfaced. It's always the same with you Muppets.
Thanks for hosting a diverse range of views including Chris Trotter and Martyn Bradbury. It’s good to engage with people from opposing political spectrums and philosophies.
Great to hear Chris Trotter’s analysis of the events of the last two days. I always respected his commentary on election nights. He never let his personal political bias override his analysis. His and my politics are quite different.
It was the biggest pile of BS excuses that I've ever heard. Jacinda failed NZ and she was going to get -20% at the next election and she wanted to protect Brand Jacinda and get bigger money over seas. Nothing more nothing less it has always been about Jacinda and not NZ.
@@roilhead I’m having difficulty joining the dots between my comment about Chris Trotter and your comment about the ex prime minister. Care to help me join the dots?
@@sojourn6697 His comments were one side excuses for Jacinda and bugga all facts. One excuse after the other as we always see with this Govt.
@@roilhead I am not a Labour or Adern supporter and currently neither is Chris Trotter, if you can open your mind enough to listen to him. Go to his Bowalley Blog and read what he has to say about her. Not much of it is flattering. Finally, in conclusion, when I weigh up what Chris Trotter has to say and what you are saying, I’ll go with Chris Trotters comments anytime.
@@sojourn6697 Chris Trotter is full Left Wing I've read a few of his articles.
Thanks for the great debate.
She pushed an unknown drug on us. And has done a runner now the shit's hit the fan. Why didn't you discuss that?
Buyers regret, I voted for you to complete your term as PM, you didn't, I want my money back!...
The takeaway from this interview cements the fact that Martyn Bradbury should have stayed at drama school
After listening to Chris Trotter’s well thought out analysis, Bradbury along with Plonket grated on me. As I have said my basic politics and Chris Trotters are quite different.
Yep, Bradbury is Adern's little simp. A truly intellectual lightweight, just like Adern.
The Horse has bolted ...
Great interview
I'm 33, and she was the worst PM of my lifetime. But I probably only say that cause I'm interested in politics now.
I'm 65, and she WAS the worst PM of my lifetime 🙂
But you gotta be anti vax by Sean's mentality to be saying vicious things like that
@@Williamottelucas Same here Bill. Worst by a long shot and stands alone.
Stop calling it misogyny- she wasnt trolled because she was a woman, she was trolled for being a petty WEF tyrant.
Pushed out by her own party to put in the looter
Why doesn't anyone ever bring up the Agenda 2030? Am I wrong and its not important?
Lol i agree with mark dolan from gb news she is the kiwi musolini 😂
Labour lost their best leader Doctor Sharma
National and Act here we come. Bye-bye to any say from Greens and racist moari party.
Same shit different bog roll! 🤷🏻♂️
I agree with Chris Trotter assessment to why Jacinda resigned and Martyn Bradbury assessment of what the 'new' Labour line up could be.
Horse 🐴 head is gone 😂 the worst Kiwi prime minister in history
The labour party meeting on Sunday but the Caucasus Maori meeting on Saturday even got segregation with in the party sick sad no good can come from segregation only hate and disbelief violence will follow state of vengeance from racist angry minority
Told u sean. Next stop UN top 3 job.
Enjoyed Chris Trotter’s comments, didn’t care much for Martin Bradbury’s. Another excellent programme from Sean.
here is some food for thought, any future employer looking at her tenure as prime minister and how she resigned, having said what she has said about seeing it through then just up and resigning, the first questions id think would be, why quit, why wasn't there any determination to see the job through, certainly not something id want to see in a future employee, to be honest, she would even get an interview.
Correct she threw in the towel at the hint of an upcoming recession and a dip in the polls
Roll on Act/National
Jabcinda the jabber 💉💉💉💔💔💔
How arrogant to announce when the next election will be and then resign. Could have left that decision to wee Chris.
Excellent segment
Great interview ,thanks
Legacy of jacinda adern.."over promised, under delivered". End of story.
Best bet for the Labour party ? But not the Best bet for the people of New Zealand come on Shaun
She has no heart Chris,make no mistake.
She lost her mandate.
Sure lets blame it on masogany ha ha ha ha
... HELEN CLARK WASN'T ANY BETTER
great show. zb have blocked me as they don't like free thought so I'm changing.
Truef is cous dat Mahutas nephew Murray...was selling her and her man top shelf powders...
Goodbye to the Corporate Rent Girl, now todays Fush and Chup wrapper.....
comrade Bomber .. GFYS
Real change yeah for the worst public relations we have seen since the 1800s
A brilliant way to get Labour back in the front pages 🙄
I AM WITH U, THERE MUST BE SOMETHING BEHIND J.A.,RESIGNATION.
TH-cam: you need to get better at inserting ads. 21:50 and someone is speaking - and you cut across him with an ad. You're abysmal about when to stick in an ad.
The lure of Chatham House became tooo hard to ignore! J.
Resignation: When even a second baby and a royal wedding won't deliver an election victory. 😂
‘Blind mouths’ - Cicero
maybe the decision was made in davos
What about Kelvin Davis….#2 isn’t he?
He's not very bright, that's his problem
Good riddens
Why does Trotter and Bradbury's diplomacy regarding Ardern sound like a Third Former attempting to evade a good canning before the Principal. Maori are at the controls of the Country and Ardern had reached her use by date.
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They say the cream rises to the top, well whatever’s at the bottom seems to take up politics.
We had no voice! Ardern had propped up the MSM with millions and then owned them thus ensuring she only got good press... on top of this she only spoke to her so call "accredited journalists" Ardern speak for "my puppets" who knew not to challenge or ask the hard questions and always give great press... The several brave journalists true to their profession who did speak out and question received a lot of flack and a great deal of pressure from Ardern... she refused to be interviewed by them and refused to appear on their shows. If you were caught speaking out or questioning you were labelled as a "hater or hate speaker".... This is terrifying as we used to be a democratic country with a free press and freedom of speech - until Ardern came to power - it is everyone's democratic right to question a non performing government going back on all their mandates. ... this is New Zealand not Russia... I think the most frightening thing I have heard her say... do not believe anything that comes from any other source, believe only me... I am your single source of truth!" She has wrecked our economy, brought every sector down on its knees, brought apartheid to our country, on and on . A very dangerous socialist - we need a leader with a vision, forget about grievances of 170 years ago, get the country moving so we can be proud of our country once again ....but then .... we must BE KIND!
good knowledge in this interview
6:38 😊
we are about to get more of the same aren't we. Them and us i.e 17% Maori and 83% of the rest of us. Hipkins didn't say he was going to shelve some policies that weren't liked he said he was going to put some policies on hold, that won't win the election.
New job Black rock or pfizer
And she got too big for her boots, tripped over and fell on her face👏
Held to ransom, enjoy the result, you don't know what ya lost till it's gone.
Jacinda Vilified? I think probably they were just concerned (even desperate) citizens trying to and call out a non achieving and heartless government and were trying to get answers without the usual Ardern side steps, spin and no answer ... surely that is a person's democratic right? It was a slap in our faces being told to be "kind" when we were being treated with anything but kindness and left with no voice!
Bring back Cunliffe.
She went down with everything else in the flush.. Good riddance