there's kind of a cult following for skechers performance shoes now. i think they're bringing back validity to the brand by sponsoring the LA marathon. they're not the end all be all running shoe but they have a lot of pretty awesome shoes right now.
PrinceThe8th I had read somewhere that they had a former Nike person that was working for them , do you know if there is any truth to that ? I believe that it was in one of my old runners world Magazine!!
People saying certain shoes can't make you faster obviously haven't ran before. Take a look at track spikes, they allow you to run faster since they grip the track surface. Try running with heavier shoes for a long distance. I can tell you it's harder opposed to running with lighter shoes.
well, if you give a runner a grip in the back of the car so he could use the cars speed to increase his own than yes a runner could very likely be over 4% faster due to a car
yeah, seems like cherry picking the conditions and adding a placebo effect to boot to me. As a runner, I'll have a hard time legitimizing whatever times they pull, good or bad. No disrespect to the runners, just Nike and their shoes that fall apart before mile 20.
It's essentially a track race. Distance running has both road and track records. So it could be recognized as a track marathon record, which probably has been run before by some idiots who felt like running 105 times around a track.
Why are you guys complaining? I thought his was cool and they're not saying the shoes will make you flash. They are trying to beat a record and the shoes look to be a major part in that, these shoes are literally amazing
***** of course they are gonna make a difference, try running with bricks in your feet and that's gonna make a difference. I'm not saying he shoes are gonna make a huge difference in saying what they are doing is amazing
I heard this story the guy was 2 seconds late I felt so so so sorry for him as I am a runner so I understand how it feels to be off your goal by only a few seconds. Never tried a marathon but I have done triathlons and I was 4.32 seconds off my target and i was so upset. A week ago I done a 5km I tried for 19 mins but got 20. I was sad, but I done another 5km yesterday and reminded myself if my time, so I pushed harder and got 19 mins and 5 seconds. I was so happy!!.. It teaches you to keep going, keep reaching and keep striving for your goal. Let this be a reminder, keep trying and you will succeed
Z I V A well said , also it’s important as we get older to remember that something is more important than time. The sheer pleasure in running 🏃 just being outside, slow or fast , just running with the wind 😀👍
Running downhill is much worse than running on a more flat surface, otherwise you can really hurt yourself. I say that for if you want to start running.
To all the idiots saying shoes are irrelevent and blablabla. Just go to a running store. Just try on a pair of expensive (higher quality) shoes and you'll see the difference right away. But dont buy em obviously
Adela Covarrubias A. The shoes are supposed to make runners 4% more efficient. According to Nike, if they become that much more efficient, they can break the record.
I think these shoes are also based on an illusion effect. When runners think the shoe can make them run faster they actually run faster without the shoe having an actual effect.
well, running 4% faster wouldn't make that big a differnce, would it? they still need to run at least 21,09 km/h and they can do that already, the problem isn't the speed, the problem is to keep that speed for 2 hours, so 4% more speed wouldn't make it any easier, they would still have to run at least 21,09 km/h for 2 hours
Yes, it would be like those swim suit records in the Olympics, but I don't know how these shoes could possibly help. I would think striking the surface as solidly as possible would be the most efficient way to run, so in the past most runners have used a minimal racing flat that just protects their feet from abrasion.
The interesting thing here is now that metal plates and probably more things to come are going to be in running shoes, where do the Olympics and professional events draw the line with what's legal, and whats considered a performance enhancing tool.
Look at how many people are saying this is an ad. I mean, the name Nike just really stands up for itself when they do things like these. It's like saying Porsche is advertising their LMP's.
These could actually prevent a 2 hour marathon. Anything which alters the biomechanics of the foot or dissipates energy will be detrimental. The foot is a complicated spring. You just need thin soled light shoes which protect you from the road.
boost tech by adidas has already added a 1% reduction in energy use and it feels like 50% over long distance so im interested to see what these can do or if theyre bull shit.
wired isnt marketing this, plus that man who said this, "Matthew Nurse" litterally in the beginning of this video, is the Nike sports research lad director, he's no marketing manager. You could've easily solved your conumdrum within the first 20 seconds of this video you fool
Mere Mortal You're so not ready for today's world it'd almost be cute if it didn't cause Trumps, Brexits etc. You have no idea how marketing/PR works, do you? Anyway, bullshit is bullshit no matter who said it or what title Nike gave them.
I have got no clue about how marketing or pr works but i do know the facts, your statement was false, and by the way you realize theirs no marketing at play here right? They said these will not hit shelves, its merely an experiment.
All I know is PF Flyers promised they would make me run faster and jump higher...which I did over the next couple years.I was 12yo and growing fast at that time,which may have been a critical factor
Calabi-Yau Manifold in my experience nike shoes suck. Maybe it's my feet or something but they are so uncomfortable and heavy and I get more injuries with nike then with saucony or Asics
Basically a Hoka One One shoe with a swoosh on it. Look up any Hoka One One shoe online and I 100% guarantee you the Hokas are better than these. The specific model is the Bondi 5. Feel really cushiony and I can go running for hours non-stop in them. They may look ugly, but they 100% perform the same at a cheaper price.
Do you like paying 200$ for basic running shoes? Didn't think so. Stfu and realize the world doesn't work the way you want it to. If everyone got payed equally across all countries, things would be so expensive you couldn't buy anything. Commie
There's capitalism, which I'm all for, then there's people like you. Do you honestly believe that the people that work in the factories are only worth the few dollars that they are paid a day? Nike's marketing budget is $804 million annually, following them increasing the budget by 10% last year. If, rather than increasing the budget for marketing, they had invested the $70 million (ish) into their workers in their factories, it could have a huge proportional effect on their wages. They didn't seem to be struggling on the previous budget, did they? Also if you had any awareness, you may have realised that productivity increases with increases in wages. If you don't believe me, Google "efficiency wage argument," so the effects these wage increases have on prices may have been even smaller than you make them out to be. All I'm saying is that if rather than greedy western multinationals investing all their money back into making commercial after commercial, they spent a little bit on their workers who are right on the breadline, it wouldn't have the effect of basic shoes costing $200 dollars which I'm guessing you just made up as it sounded like a nice big round number. I bet you voted for Trump.
The ráramuri people of Mexico can run up up to 400 miles non stop,in fiber sandals or the more common style, barefoot. They don't have as many problems with their feet as you would think. No collapsing of heels and etc.
Justin Lao I agree it's probably better for basketball but I personally like running in boost for cross country compared to Nike cross country sneakers
Actually the foam in these shoes has been directly compared to ultra boosts, and in their tests this particular Nike foam did perform better in terms of energy efficiency. Granted, neither of us have seen or tried this new nike foam, so we have no way to compare the two. So how about you chill out, hype beast
Skarth they could be either lying or stretching the truth too, and, I'm not a hypebeast, I just really like oh it's teddy, and there's nothing wrong with being a hype beast in the first place
@@gentjanh8581 i was playing with a peahen baby once and it's mother started chasing me i ran in circles till the peahen left me The adrenaline helped me run fast i can't run that fast normally What if all track atheletes had a dog chasing them. We would see many world records shattered. P.s we have a lot in common😀
Since I was a teen playing soccer I always said if they manufacture custom shoes for the individual and to the specific use you can definitely increase the athletes performance through the shoe alone. I can always see the answer to these problems because of the way I think. Most people can't so when I explain things to people they don't understand. They believe you need experience in Every thing to know about it. I don't. I can solve everyday problems including business related and sort out issues like you'd find in a courtroom w ease. I'm for hire.
My light up sketchers make me go fast
John D'Orso actually its proven green timbs make you go 1000% faster.... science
funny actually bc the new skechers performance running shoes are actually really fucking good, lots of people run and race in them now
+Zadius895 it is a shame people look over Sketchers performance. I train in Brooks and Hooka but wear Sketchers on race day! they are amazing
there's kind of a cult following for skechers performance shoes now. i think they're bringing back validity to the brand by sponsoring the LA marathon. they're not the end all be all running shoe but they have a lot of pretty awesome shoes right now.
PrinceThe8th I had read somewhere that they had a former Nike person that was working for them , do you know if there is any truth to that ? I believe that it was in one of my old runners world Magazine!!
Here after Kipchoge's 1:59:40.
Anyone else?
I heard if you wear your crocs backwards you can go sub 1 hour.
flarfo or in adventure mode
+4% SPD
kejorafall 100 like
Haha eher -4% SPD
Haha eher -12% SPD
@@noel.friedrich Ja hast recht
You know it's legit when he says "scientifical"
Lmao! Where
Harry Lo 0:17
What is your point? Scientifical is a real word, but it's not commonly used.
I call bs it's all about mentality
DaSo .
Who else is here after seeing that he broke the record.
Did he do it in these shoes?
nice!
ProRed Bull no he didnt...the shoes he wore in Vienna are still unreleased and are an iteration of the Vaporflyes Next%
He had people in front of him to block air
are you dumb?
literaly everyone will come here after the event happened
how could someone watch this before it happened
you are stupid af
Adias About to make a shoe that makes you 5% faster
loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
Yea and I'm about to make a 100% faster shoes so I can beat usain bolt
Adias is way more faster than Nike and adidas
Black Dot most underrated comment
Space Cowboy yea and Adias is a underrated brand
People saying certain shoes can't make you faster obviously haven't ran before. Take a look at track spikes, they allow you to run faster since they grip the track surface. Try running with heavier shoes for a long distance. I can tell you it's harder opposed to running with lighter shoes.
El Blanco its about the percentage that Nike claims. Its bullshit.
chr1s it's really not feeling
Nike is a shit brand for running. They suck. They fall apart and are horrible for your ankles.
HolyRope plus they look fucking boring
@@holyrope9182 i bet you dont even run
so if i were to wear 1,656,384 pairs, i would run %6,625,536 faster
nice marth
nice sppeling
It’s Bill guys
Nerd on the loose...
Quicks maffs
A car can make a runner more than 4% faster
Extra Mental I had to like can't be lieaving it at that number of likes
Random Guy I don't run and I drive everywhere, im not fat
Extra Mental than you get a driver and not a runner
well, if you give a runner a grip in the back of the car so he could use the cars speed to increase his own than yes a runner could very likely be over 4% faster due to a car
+ulizinho
*whoosh*
If they break 2 hours, it will not be recognized as a world record due to the fact that they did not run in one of the certified races.
Carol Lai they are doing that race for publicity, not to break some record and it works from what I see.
thats racist
yeah, seems like cherry picking the conditions and adding a placebo effect to boot to me. As a runner, I'll have a hard time legitimizing whatever times they pull, good or bad. No disrespect to the runners, just Nike and their shoes that fall apart before mile 20.
mefnow it's just not racist
It's essentially a track race. Distance running has both road and track records. So it could be recognized as a track marathon record, which probably has been run before by some idiots who felt like running 105 times around a track.
Are Nike trainers good? Here are some Nike employees to tell you yes.
ooops
Which one is good
Why are you guys complaining? I thought his was cool and they're not saying the shoes will make you flash. They are trying to beat a record and the shoes look to be a major part in that, these shoes are literally amazing
baby steps of progress. I think it's great!
***** ok 😂
***** of course they are gonna make a difference, try running with bricks in your feet and that's gonna make a difference. I'm not saying he shoes are gonna make a huge difference in saying what they are doing is amazing
Attack Helicopter what's cool is that these shoes just shattered the record
I call total bs it's all about mentality
I heard this story the guy was 2 seconds late I felt so so so sorry for him as I am a runner so I understand how it feels to be off your goal by only a few seconds. Never tried a marathon but I have done triathlons and I was 4.32 seconds off my target and i was so upset. A week ago I done a 5km I tried for 19 mins but got 20. I was sad, but I done another 5km yesterday and reminded myself if my time, so I pushed harder and got 19 mins and 5 seconds. I was so happy!!.. It teaches you to keep going, keep reaching and keep striving for your goal. Let this be a reminder, keep trying and you will succeed
Eliud was 25 seconds over the 2 hour goal. There is a very nice National Geographic documentary here on YT. Cheers!
Z I V A well said , also it’s important as we get older to remember that something is more important than time. The sheer pleasure in running 🏃 just being outside, slow or fast , just running with the wind 😀👍
you need to keep trying and buy the latest edition of running shoe. :)
Z I V A *
Z I V A I
The video said that this shoe wasn't on the market, yet people still call this marketing bullshit.
Perhaps they mean for the Nike brand in general.
Jack Coburn Because they will sell it later on
Icex Aoki no they wont
Jack bignell yes they will, look at the Nike website
Jack bignell guess what there selling them
I wore this during a race and I did something wrong, I slowed down by 4% and I lost the race. Thanks a lot
Ur suppose to put 1 foot in front of the other
Nike shoes are garbage for running
@@evanyoung6993 if you’re slow, they certainly are.
If they wanted to break the record without regard for actual race conditions they should have just found a downhill course and used trampoline shoes.
that's a *lot* of trampolines for a marathon
lol no not trampolines all the way down the course. I mean shoes that give a trampoline bouncing effect that are banned in actual races.
i think their point is sort of like: this shoe makes you faster, we want to give you proof
Find a 20km downhill couse haha. It wouldnt be possible unfortunatly but good thinking.
Running downhill is much worse than running on a more flat surface, otherwise you can really hurt yourself. I say that for if you want to start running.
"The *'Nike'* Shoe That Could Make a Runner 4% Faster"
my pumped up kicks make me run 1,000,000% faster
its actually a nice fucking shoe.
Who's here after eliud broke the 2h barrier?
To all the idiots saying shoes are irrelevent and blablabla. Just go to a running store. Just try on a pair of expensive (higher quality) shoes and you'll see the difference right away. But dont buy em obviously
Eliud Just broke the barrier of 2 hour by running the marathon in 1 hour 59 minutes and 40 seconds
It's 2018 and the old record still stands.
It is 4% faster compared to what? compared to other shoes, if that is the case, which shoes? or compared to barefoot?
Adela Covarrubias A. The shoes are supposed to make runners 4% more efficient. According to Nike, if they become that much more efficient, they can break the record.
Where can i show you my drawing of the Nike Vapor Fly Elite 4
This was filmed a few months ago. The 2 hr marathon has already been broken
Kipchoge 2 hr 25 seconds
Bull
I think these shoes are also based on an illusion effect. When runners think the shoe can make them run faster they actually run faster without the shoe having an actual effect.
These shoes: I am the fastest
spikes: hold my beer!
He just reached a 2:00:23 marathon. Its so incredibly close they must reach it this year
Nike's wear is fucking overpiced as shit smh
DjX Vosun maybe because it makes you run 4% faster
Whenever you get any new pair of shoe you think your faster than anyone.
well, running 4% faster wouldn't make that big a differnce, would it? they still need to run at least 21,09 km/h and they can do that already, the problem isn't the speed, the problem is to keep that speed for 2 hours, so 4% more speed wouldn't make it any easier, they would still have to run at least 21,09 km/h for 2 hours
4% more efficient means a 4% energy saving which can help you sustain speed for long times
I need this shoes but not getting .who is retailer and where.
I wear thirty pairs, and double my speed.
%4 doesn't sound like a lot but seriously feels like that with the cushion, support & all
Who needs running shoes when u can run with slippers
Eliud Kipchoge came close to the goal, finishing in 2:00:25. Shave a second off each mile and he & Nike will shake up the world.
Yeah boost is still better
Leominos boost is okay.
Leominos not for running tho
could the foam be better than boost? in terms of comfort
Who's here after Kipchoge's sub 2-hour marathon?
Nothing will make you faster than a cop behind you or a taco in front while crossing the boarder.
If shoes that allow you to go 4% faster are legal might as well allow rocket skates
Some people say 4% isn't that much, but when you're going up from 0% it's quite a jump.
Who is here AFTER THE 2 HOUR MARATHON RECORD WAS BROKEN
Interesting. Thanks Wired journalists for sharing this.
Two words, one name...
Barry Allen
Is this on sale? If it weren`t, could someone can advice me to get that or similar one?
Assuming these work, there's no way these would be legal. This is a marketing opportunity for Nike.
Yes, it would be like those swim suit records in the Olympics, but I don't know how these shoes could possibly help. I would think striking the surface as solidly as possible would be the most efficient way to run, so in the past most runners have used a minimal racing flat that just protects their feet from abrasion.
VeganAF Prototype just like the adidas predator, 0% fair, 100% legal
Guess again
What about the sticky rubber om the Monza track?
He's trying so hard not to say they have ultraboost in the heel
I saw them today in Monza... Half a marathon in 59'41'' Crazy !!
He misses it by 23 secounds
The interesting thing here is now that metal plates and probably more things to come are going to be in running shoes, where do the Olympics and professional events draw the line with what's legal, and whats considered a performance enhancing tool.
They have scientifical foam people FOAM
the shoes are legit. The truth is you are NOT running these times unless you on some serious EPO etc.
I think it's more likely the EPO and steroids that will get them under 2hrs
"...but they're the difference between what is and isn't humanly possible." That's good writing!
Bare foot is the best no need for all this expensive boots.
Neighbor I would if the floor is flat and clean
then run circles in a gymnasium
Look at how many people are saying this is an ad. I mean, the name Nike just really stands up for itself when they do things like these. It's like saying Porsche is advertising their LMP's.
These could actually prevent a 2 hour marathon. Anything which alters the biomechanics of the foot or dissipates energy will be detrimental. The foot is a complicated spring. You just need thin soled light shoes which protect you from the road.
James This guy knows
True!
Anyone know when the race will happen?
I can’t even run for 2 hours
I cant even run for an hour
boost tech by adidas has already added a 1% reduction in energy use and it feels like 50% over long distance so im interested to see what these can do or if theyre bull shit.
Why not just try 4% harder?
Where can I get these and how much does it cost
Getting my ass chased makes me go faster...
its not the shoe that makes us faster, its attitude and training....simples!
Yeah, sure, the best scientific term... "magic". What a marketing bullshit. -> *Unsubscribe*
Ondřej Pokorný wow chill tf out.
I believe he said "scientifical".
wired isnt marketing this, plus that man who said this, "Matthew Nurse" litterally in the beginning of this video, is the Nike sports research lad director, he's no marketing manager. You could've easily solved your conumdrum within the first 20 seconds of this video you fool
Mere Mortal You're so not ready for today's world it'd almost be cute if it didn't cause Trumps, Brexits etc. You have no idea how marketing/PR works, do you? Anyway, bullshit is bullshit no matter who said it or what title Nike gave them.
I have got no clue about how marketing or pr works but i do know the facts, your statement was false, and by the way you realize theirs no marketing at play here right? They said these will not hit shelves, its merely an experiment.
All I know is PF Flyers promised they would make me run faster and jump higher...which I did over the next couple years.I was 12yo and growing fast at that time,which may have been a critical factor
Imagine USAIN BOLT with THESE. He will dominate the olympics like never before.
Thumbs up for USAIN BOLT.
there is a vast differences between a sprint and a marathon
Moid Hassan last time i checked Bolt doesnt run marathons
Doesn't work like that cause hes a sprinter and sprinters use sprint spikes for more traction and speed so these would actually just make him slower
These are built for long distance running.
What are the ones with the collar called
I'm getting a pair of these.
The record is now 2:00:25. Absolutely ridiculous...
Anyone that runs knows to not run in Nike. It's common sense.
HolyRope Whys that
Calabi-Yau Manifold in my experience nike shoes suck. Maybe it's my feet or something but they are so uncomfortable and heavy and I get more injuries with nike then with saucony or Asics
Sounds reasonable
So true I got shin splints in nikes for the first time
Owned two Nike shoes. Both were terrible and expensive.
At least their spikes are good. =o
Can I use the vaporfly 4%for 1000 metres in track (rarely in road) i am very fast(30 km h and 2,57 personal best in 1000 m
AM FAST AS FUCK BOI
If the whole marathon were in a hallway they would be able to do it in under 1h 30min
Rain drops, drop tops, sweatshops :(
Where to buy it?
I smell BS
Did you not watch the video? They said the specially fitted shoes wouldn't be in stores...
Basically a Hoka One One shoe with a swoosh on it. Look up any Hoka One One shoe online and I 100% guarantee you the Hokas are better than these. The specific model is the Bondi 5. Feel really cushiony and I can go running for hours non-stop in them. They may look ugly, but they 100% perform the same at a cheaper price.
its called vehicles
I see you workout. Its called forklifts
I KNOW WHAT WILL HELP!
Give the chaser the vapourfly and the runners a super rare, only one pair in existence air Jordan
You will KILL the competition
adidas has something better thats been around for along time it's called boost
pedropepperoni this shoe is really similar to boost
pedropepperoni they are talking about running not comfort
What foam does the shoe have?
How about Nike pay they factory workers a decent wage and support them, instead of this marketing bullshit. Makes me sick!
yeah no large manifactuore pays their workers decently
Do you like paying 200$ for basic running shoes? Didn't think so. Stfu and realize the world doesn't work the way you want it to. If everyone got payed equally across all countries, things would be so expensive you couldn't buy anything. Commie
marketing helps sell more
There's capitalism, which I'm all for, then there's people like you. Do you honestly believe that the people that work in the factories are only worth the few dollars that they are paid a day? Nike's marketing budget is $804 million annually, following them increasing the budget by 10% last year. If, rather than increasing the budget for marketing, they had invested the $70 million (ish) into their workers in their factories, it could have a huge proportional effect on their wages. They didn't seem to be struggling on the previous budget, did they?
Also if you had any awareness, you may have realised that productivity increases with increases in wages. If you don't believe me, Google "efficiency wage argument," so the effects these wage increases have on prices may have been even smaller than you make them out to be.
All I'm saying is that if rather than greedy western multinationals investing all their money back into making commercial after commercial, they spent a little bit on their workers who are right on the breadline, it wouldn't have the effect of basic shoes costing $200 dollars which I'm guessing you just made up as it sounded like a nice big round number.
I bet you voted for Trump.
I'm pretty sure if they earn money from the marketing they would have more money to pay their workers
''You won't see these in a store''... Except next year when they retail for 350 euros as a limited edition.
The shoes don’t make you 4% faster, it makes you 4% more efficient at running.
The ráramuri people of Mexico can run up up to 400 miles non stop,in fiber sandals or the more common style, barefoot. They don't have as many problems with their feet as you would think. No collapsing of heels and etc.
adidas boost > Nike tech
Justin Lao I agree it's probably better for basketball but I personally like running in boost for cross country compared to Nike cross country sneakers
both are terrible shoes with almost no support. Asics and Brooks are better.
Asics are the best for cross country
Skoob Doob they are the best but personally I fit better in adidas xc shoes
Those two athletes that got signed probally already runs a sub marathon under 2 hours
UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH YOU'VE CLEARLY NEVER HEARD OF ULTRA BOOST, THAT IS WAYYYYYYYYYYYY BETTER
Or, you know, Hoka One One anything.
uhhhhhhhhhhhh I dont see boost there
Mimey Man it's alright bud. It's over your head.
Actually the foam in these shoes has been directly compared to ultra boosts, and in their tests this particular Nike foam did perform better in terms of energy efficiency. Granted, neither of us have seen or tried this new nike foam, so we have no way to compare the two. So how about you chill out, hype beast
Skarth they could be either lying or stretching the truth too, and, I'm not a hypebeast, I just really like oh it's teddy, and there's nothing wrong with being a hype beast in the first place
Welp! The men's marathon world record was just broken by almost a minute and it looked like ol boy was definitely wearing those shoes
lmao this is just boost with a carbon fiber plate
Mozzi Fozzi which is actually better
No
Mozzi Fozzi this isn't even close to boost but I guess
The Nike shoe is better for running then boost
this is very effective, i used this to my wife and she is now pregnant.. thnaks nike..
My neighboor dog made me run 100% faster
Found you
Saw the video on you you do have some determination 😀
@@devmathur5003 yepp
@@gentjanh8581 i was playing with a peahen baby once and it's mother started chasing me i ran in circles till the peahen left me
The adrenaline helped me run fast i can't run that fast normally
What if all track atheletes had a dog chasing them. We would see many world records shattered.
P.s we have a lot in common😀
Jokes on you I did a sub 2 year marathon
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Since I was a teen playing soccer I always said if they manufacture custom shoes for the individual and to the specific use you can definitely increase the athletes performance through the shoe alone. I can always see the answer to these problems because of the way I think. Most people can't so when I explain things to people they don't understand. They believe you need experience in Every thing to know about it. I don't. I can solve everyday problems including business related and sort out issues like you'd find in a courtroom w ease. I'm for hire.