Being a Four with Frank James
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- A conversation on growth in the Enneagram Four with Frank James + MollythePerson !
Apologies for the clickclack in the audio, I could not for the life of me figure it out.
Subscribe to FJ: / frankjameschannel
And to moi: / listentomolly
thanks for watching!
INFJ 4w5 here. When he started talking about how everyone else was playing a game he couldn't win, it was like he ripped the thought right out of my skull.
Many INFJs report feeling like "aliens" among people. The thing is, I don't feel like a space alien or extraterrestrial. It's more like I do belong on earth, just not this version of it. Another dimension, alternate reality, stream of consciousness, etc. Same place, same time, just another identity. It's hard to describe, but there's both a disconnect and a desire to bond. It's weird.
Omg the INFJ prettiness is overwhelming 🥰🤯🥰
She is very pretty!
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Shes and enfp and he’s and infp
@@jnorthtrash1346 how do you know?
The return of the INFAMOUS Frank James!!!
My ENFP brain busting...
What a wonderful conversion!
I am also a four infj and your confessions made me cry I feel no more alone thank you so much sometimes this weirdness is hard
9:50
Oh my, this!
When you make a fatal mistake, or when someone tells your conclusion is wrong,
while everything points out to that direction you feel very faulty and broken.
The funny thing is that you are right most of the time, but some people just like denial, and this makes us go in Identity Crisis Mode.
I really liked the discussion, I hope you do more!
Is this the best INFJ crossover?
Yes,it is.
Im also a INFJ!!
Frank James is not an INFJ, but the chick seems to be.
@Has Goodles how do you know?
@@danielkubicek9108 hey hi! how can you define this? have you done any analysis before? I say this because that's what a lot of people think about Frank James you know, but when you watch his more personal videos other than the humor videos, you realize he's an infj. I'm an infj and I didn't know he was it was an infj and when i saw someone saying that i went to see these more personal videos and i was sure he is an infj. he may have further developed his inferior function of feeling extraverted, he once said himself that today he feels a little more extraverted than before but I still feel he is an introvert.
No, Frank James is not one, he is definitely Te user.
The syncronized parallel angle in the thumbnail though. Mesmerizing
That's was a great conversation.
Thank you for sharing it.
Take care 🍀
Hi! I can totally relate. Thank you for sharing! I felt every word from both of you!
Ahh so glad you can relate, fellow four!
I am 4 as well and the underlying neurosis is envy. It means to myself wanting what others have that I do not. It appears to me the cure to this is self acceptance and gratitude.
As a four I do feel different from others and have a hard time finding friends.
ENFP
Hit the nail on the head. Yes it is envy, exactly!!
I share a 4 wing. 5w4, I sence it’s much stronger for 4w3’s or 4w5.
Just wanted to say thank you to both of ya. Infj a that just woke up again after a long spiral. Been a lot of fun learning about all this stuff and it helped to click things into a nice aha moment so think I was in the 5 range with Frank but have shifted towards 3 recently
This is awesome guys! Thank you for this video. :)
Love the deeper discussion, thank you!!! Love you both ❤️ ❤️! 5w4 here :)
I'm not an INFJ (I think I'm an ENFP who feels like an INFP at times). But I think I'm a type 4 Enneagram, and it certainly makes me feel way more complex than people see me as. To an outsider I'm just a quirky, klutzy, sarcastic and dramatic entertainer. But internally I really am comparing myself to everyone, and as Molly said, everyone is either superior or inferior to me, and the way I view myself shifts constantly depending on who I'm with. It's an internal rollercoaster. People have actually told me I come across as warm, welcoming and "very" confident. Yet, I'm so incredibly insecure that I haven't asked a woman out on a date in 5 years! I keep thinking she wouldn't like me as much as "that other guy" she's talking to. Or, if actually may be interested in me, I feel like she either won't ever understand me because she only sees what every else sees... or I will just fail at the relationship... so why bother?
I think when I'm in a healthy mindset I'm very present with people and I DO feel confident in myself. I'm not in that self-deprecating state of mind 24/7. However, I don't seem to have control over when it shows up.
I also don't relate to the dark, brooding, and melancholic stereotypes associated to the 4s. But there's bad stereotypes for all the types.
I feel like I can relate to this comment so much. When I take the Meyer's Briggs test I come out as an INFP or an INFJ depending on when I've taken it, but inside like I should be more extroverted. My mom told me that as a child I was completely extroverted and that I liked to make people smile and entertain them. She told me that my personality completely changed after my father died and as I was abused by my adoptive father, I started to become even more withdrawn and solemn. So I believe trauma does affect personality. I feel like there have been times in my life when I'm doing well where my inner child has shown (or has tried to show) her true colours and I deeply this is who I believe I was created to be, but then I start to think there must have been a reason I went through the experiences I did. Maybe so I could learn how to be gentle, humble, compassionate? I'm not sure. I just know that I have often felt like I was either playing someone else's role or stuck in someone else's body and I hear you very deeply about the inner insecurities because I have these fears too. After trying to forge friendships and relationships and being rejected over and over again, it tends to make me feel skeptical about the idea of relationships and I naturally close myself off naturally as a means of self- protection. It takes an extreme amount of bravery to keep trying to open yourself up when each time you do you feel rejected. I think naturally I would most likely be more of an ENFP or ENFJ personality and I'm honestly not sure if I'll ever come around fully. So I understand completely what you are saying. I can relate so much to this. I wish the world were a place where we could all feel loved and safe to be who were created to be!
Yeeeeeees love this Love both your channels and uniqueness :)
My two besties are 4s and are part of my social bubble during this time. Well, my virtual one since they live in Iowa and Mn and this video!!! The parenting yourselves, the feeling unique and how you sim that. It was like zooming with them. You look like siblings by the way and I came over from Frank’s channel. Molly, you are a rare butterfly those facial expressions and NF looking off into the ethers. Thanks Frank, new channel and virtual pretend bestie haha! Also, your eyes guys like endless oceans of contemplation! Start a retreat center together haha! If you looked each other directly in the eyes would one of you melt? Would you start to fly? Haha INFJ superpowers dude!
Lovely video Molly! Appreciate the lack of bs!
I love this ! You both are amazing , much lovee❤️
Loved this little chat. I very much relate. Molly, hope your little project is progressing well.
4 gang 🙌🏻
Definitely relate to what you guys were saying about feeling like you’re the center of your own movie, and 4s being a little stereotypically “self-absorbed.” I was like that to the extreme as a teenager. A little embarrassing to look back on. 😳 Ooh, and what you said about “self-parenting” and wondering what is wrong with you after hearing it as a child - that hits home for sure. 🏚
Really enjoyed listening to this conversation between you too. Hope all is well with you, Molly!!
So really, Frank is an ENFJ and Molly is an INFJ.
@@MeadeSkeltonMusic Frank’s not like any ENFJ I know, and I wouldn’t personally type him as that, but 🤷🏻♀️ these things are open to interpretation
@@MeadeSkeltonMusic He is absolutely not an ENFJ
@@JonasAnandaKristiansson Maybe not, but I don't think he's an INFJ. I really don't. I'm leaning towards ENFP even, or INFP.
@@MeadeVlogchannel I see! I could see ENTP and INFP actually, which seems very upside down to have such different types in mind.
Both of you are amazing
I love both of you
This woman is so pretty I can't take my eyes off her
I feel like alot of INFPs would be a four
I'm an ISFP 4w5
Hello fellow INFJs! It’s so weird seeing 2 of you!
This conversation is like the two halves of my brain fighting to take control
Hahhaa :D
*Sometimes I hate being INFJ.*
In my life, others' needs always came first.
Whether it was clients, co-workers, colleagues, acquaintances, friends, family or strangers. With my Fe (extroverted feeling), it was me empathizing, calming, analyzing, suggesting, coercing, counseling, motivating, planning, scheming (!), etc., for them. Whether it was clients, co-workers, colleagues, acquaintances, friends, family or strangers.
Maybe I was too good at it.
So, the rare occasion when I have a problem … I need to talk … (again!) I get the Fi (introverted feeling) response. Right away the other person lapses into a somewhat related personal anecdote or an entirely(!) unrelated story. Once again spieling out THIER problems.
With certain people I know I'll get no chance at all to talk about me.
It truly truly shocks me when somebody says to me, "Ray, how ... are … *YOU?"*
Floored!
Maybe you're not an INFJ. Maybe this is all BS
@@MeadeSkeltonMusic
I don't deal in maybes.
Look up 'Fe burnout.'
Ray, how are you 😁♥️
What an amazing video omg
i love how fj recognizes the realness of this channel even tho he's got way more subs
He was but a little channel with humble beginnings too once.
I mean it's Molly so 😂 4s connect super well with other 4s. My two best friends and I are all 4w5s which is interesting lols
I've been on YT since 2007 and I still have under 1k subs.
@@TimVerry Indeed!!
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Hello INFJ's!! I'm an INFP 4w5 so that makes us cousins 🤔 I dunno, but I hope you guy's, and girl's, have a good 2021!!
P.s. The girl in this video is gorgeous, too 😍
Molly is so pretty
6.05 Oh hell yes. "Going one's own way" and not the "common" way of "others".
Hope to see more of you two! :) Love my fellow 4's
TH-cam brought me here
I wonder how a INFJ/INFJ relationship would work out?
I’m a 4 as well (and an INFJ) :3
Me and my bff have talked about this and we think it could work out really well so long as they were healthy infjs and communicated. We also like the INFJ/ENFP and she likes infps while i have a soft spot for infjs lol. Of coyrse INFJ/INTP is supposed to be the golden pair :)
Hey Molly! I have a question for you but YT doesnt let people message each other anymore. I realized i may well have PTSD of abandonment (damn infj childhood trauma lol) and it is pretty interesting and kind of explains a lot haha. Have you heard of this? Id be interested in a video diving into it maybe as part of a video going deeper with attachment theory that you dud a video on not too long ago.
Anyways! Keep up the good work and i hope you and your family are staying safe!
it might be about being an aspie
I am an INTP but also a four. to me, seems like those go hand in hand but a lot of fours have F in their personality. Are there more INTP’s here or is it just me?
A lot of folks mistype themselves, so it’s hard to say which mtbi type corresponds well with the enneagram personality system.
Yes many INFPs INTPs and INFJ are enneagram 4 or 5 or sometimes 2 or the other artsy pisces leaning childhood emotional types
1:07 lol I just cant
an INFJ getting the same stare from another fellow INFJ XD
must feel uncomfortable ;)
You refer to 4s as "we". He refers to 4s as "they". Interesting.
How very 4 of them. Or should I say, “us”?
People are only numbers in the government...
It's because Frank James is actually an INFP and views himself entirely separate from everyone else (most likely correctly typed a 4).
@@basic-decaf thanks for this, I wasn't sure about his type, he can very well be an INFP, or maybe an ENTP, but certainly not an INFJ.
I think this is because Frank's channel itself is based on presenting academically gained stuff. While Molly generally seems to mostly relate ot with personal experience. Also, may be their other two types in tritypes are different.
Is it a 4 thing to hate being a 4?
Enneagram 4 usually aligns primarily or secondarily with Pisces or Aquarius
Idk why I get such INFP vibes from FJ.
4s are moody. We expect kindness from everybody but sometimes lacerate..our fellow humans with our nasty temper.
ENFP with INFJ... wow...
You a pretty white chick = more than 4, gotta be at least a 7/10, don't be so negative 😁
What is this weird mess, some strange 4-play of these two girls on the net... that one girl has nice facial hair...