"a 4w5 wants to come off as credible, knowledgeable" "a 4w3 wants to come off as... *cool* " me, knowing most people assume I'm stupid anyways and have the lifelong dream of being cool: :D It's so interesting watching you talk. Not to be weird but like I swear it's like watching myself talk. You have such a dreamy way of talking, like one can watch you gather your thoughts and compose them before using them.
i used to think i’m 4w5 due to my love for new knowledge and artistry, but after accepting that the reason why i want to be skilled and knowledgeable is because i want to impress others/be admired, i now believe i’m 4w3 😅 i don’t just want to be good, i want to be seen for being good
You nailed the explanation. 45 wants to gain knowledge/skill to understand others and understand themselves. 43 wants to gain knowledge/skill to impress others or gain cool factor. A dead giveaway is expressive, 43 is more sociable, 45 is not.
My favorite 4w5 vs. 4w3 video that I've found on TH-cam. INFP 4w5 here. I had a sense that you might be an INFJ and was happy to hear later I'm the video that you identify as one. I like the way you present and express yourself.
I think I’m a mix of these two wings, so I just call myself a type 4. I’m trying to be more of a 4w3 getting out if the 4w5 shell as people often compliment my sense of style and art and humor and I think I could be more successful in these if I just was brave enough to put myself out there without fear of rejection
This is difficult since I feel like I focus a lot on both performing and knowledge in my life 😂. But this video does make the differences a lot clearer so thank you!
I'm a 4 w3 even though I've always been extremely reclusive. However, I attribute this to having suffered from emotional neglect growing up where I was financially provided for but not much attention or guidance or encouragement in terms of extracurricular activities (which I was unaware of as a child). Now I've overcome a lot of social anxiety (finally) and my true w3 is more obvious and I do have sort of a "performance" way of behaving sometimes.
when you said “4w5 is more sunken in, & …” swear I said “reclusive” at the exact same millisecond as you ahah love your page! I get so excited when I find Ni doms, the language is v much understood aha so happy to have found someone that can explain my silly brain! thank youu
I'm an INFJ 4w5. I like to act, but because playing a character interests me. I don't really care what the community thinks. It's amazing acting as another character. And I do tend to blurt out random stuff and look for validation, but only among the group of friends I respect. I seem extroverted around those Im comfortable around, but reserved around anyone else and am a true introvert in terms of receiving energy. For these reasons, it was hard to find my dominant wing. Also, the fact I hate neon colors comforts my position on being a 4w5. I will say, there is one trait of w3 that keeps me wondering and that's my need to stay productive, but I feel that's just an additive trait from my anxiety disorder lol
Well descibed! I struggled with this for years until I realised I was both depending on what was happening in my life. I think it is because I spend a lot of time learning (5), then from that knowledge the ability to share it (3) forms. Then the cycle repeats. I have learned to love them both and use them accordingly. Great work x
I'm an INFJ 4w5. I once told a colleague if I didn't have to publish anything I'd just write to myself in diary format. (I'm in academia). The colleague in question is a 4w3 imo. They spend a lot more time socializing than myself and once said that they fancy the idea of being a famous academic. I'd only like to be famous when I'm dead so that in this life I can enjoy a secluded domestic life with my future wife and children 😊 I was very envious of 4w3 types in my late teens and early 20s. I tried really hard to be the 'life of the party' like them. But I really don't have their stamina. I also don't like how cutthroat and self-promoting a lot of the party scene is. My childhood trauma is all about losing loved ones to the wordly rat-race. I hate getting awards because I don't like to be loved for my 'success'. That was all that my mother loved me for and I've always wished she'd have loved me for my sincerity and imagination instead 😕 I think my mom was just unloving in general (for various reasons) but in my head I blamed her success-oriented values for the lack of love she showed me. My dad on the other hand, was always taking up mom's slack. And he loved me not for my success but first for my sense of morality - he named me 'Justin' - and second for my intelligence (which I definitely get from him). Had my mom loved me and my dad been neglectful I would probably be a 4w3...
infp 4w3 here! I relate a lot to all of what you said about the differences between 4w3 and 4w5. I'm an infp, and since I am an infp, I am still introverted. There are times when I feel shy about getting into the spotlight, but when I'm called out, I don't reject them; I go and present myself somehow. It's pretty cool, honestly, knowing that I'm an introvert, but then I have this cool side where I don't feel embarrassed showing off what I've got when I know that I can do it. People have praised me because of that characteristic, which is why I was very happy while listening to all that you said about us 4w3s. Thank you, really.
This is really interesting, I'm a 4 and I'm learning more about myself. I'm more on the 3 side when I'm healthiest and life is gravy, and more on the 5 side when I'm stressed
Okay I've reached the state of relatability where I start hating on my typology cuz it's accurate uriejwjhfuseisow Lol tho I appreciate your video it made finally rest myself as I was overthinking this thing for probably a week! And your description was so clear and simple. I can see that because I'm Infj 4w5 and I have a 4w3 intp sister Thanks for the info! It was really helpful :D
so i have a question, did you mistype yourself as infp and hated it?? 😂 I'm in torture right now cause I can't stand INFP type (sorry to INFPs) but I can't deside if I am INFP or INFJ 😅
I'm a 4w3 as well! I actually found my way here during a Frank James live stream when I asked if an INFJ 4w3 exists. So glad I found your channel and thank you for the great explanation! I do understand the 4w5 a lot and I think I might have fluctuated between the two during my lifetime. I am very prone to perfection in my hobbies (writing/drawing/art in general) which is very 4w5 but due to the nature of my work as an engineer we are forced to get things done fast where perfectionism is allowed to influence but not to dictate our performance and I thrive in that environment which is why I definitely see myself as more of a 4w3. Again thanks and I look forward to more content! :)
Around 6:38 ... as a 4w5, oh yeah :) I've worked in data analysis and taught research methods at the graduate level. I try to avoid topics I haven't studied thoroughly, and if I *do* speak on something I care deeply about and know a thing or two and then someone "calls me out", they'd better be right ;) (they're usually not and I might be polite about it, but otherwise avoid them as an arrogant ignoramus, ha). Whereas as far as success, ha, I know I'm not very successful! (Traditionally or even by my own standards, honestly.)
I’m a 4 who leans like 58% wing 3, 42% wing 5 and I’m in a constant push pull battle between the two, like I always feel conflicted because I’m being pulled by both. Btw, 4’s aren’t necessarily introverted as you say. We can be withdrawn and brooding at times depending on our mood and feelings, but introverted or extroverted isn’t an inherent trait of 4’s. I think most people don’t know the true definition of introversion and extroversion and use them incorrectly. Now 4w3’s typically lean more extroverted and 4w5’s introverted, but the 4 itself doesn’t necessarily indicate a strong intro/extro.
thanks for this video! I, too, identified as a 4w5 in the past, but I think I'm actually a 4w3. I think I believed I was a 4w5 because at the time I was dating an INTJ haha and would try to impress him by being more open to intellectual topics. Naturally however I think I may prefer doing other things hahaha. I feel very balanced though with my wings after that relationship :))) What MBTI are you btw? :D Edit: oh nvm you mentioned you were INFJ in the video oopsie!
Hahaha that is definitely relatable! It’s so funny how we can see ourselves differently based on the people we’re around the most. And hooray for balance 🎉
It weird though. You said 4w3 thinks authenticity and success means love & 4w5 thinks authenticity means love and knowledge ensures security. But I’m very knowledge oriented. But I think authenticity and success will ensure love.
I need a little help because I seem stuck between the two. I very much care about knowing a lot of things, so I can be a good person to go to all-around. I'm 100% introverted, I feel drained after long talks, even with the people I care about the most. I do like talking to people, but only the ones that I know very well and trust. I can overshare and undershare too. If I feel like the time is appropriate, and I know the person well, I usually overshare. I'm alright with most people not loving me, but I hope they can respect some of the things I do. Saying that I know what I'm doing, is a huge compliment to me because that means I'm doing something well. I am a very insecure person, I care about my looks a lot. I'm under the impression that I'm not that good-looking of a guy. People say I dress well, I honestly don't know if that's true. I usually wear darker colors, branded shirts (Adidas or Puma), my white Jordan's, or comfy but stylish running shoes, sweatpants, or light blue jeans. I do care a lot about my personal relationships, I hate losing friends, unless they're toxic. I'm pretty bad at keeping in touch, I don't really know who wants to talk to me more, other than my bestfriend. I believe I can find a good relationship by being myself. Anybody that'll accept me, help me emotionally sometimes, be true to me, and trust me is right for me. I daydream a lot about finding 'the one' and having kids. I regret what I've done in the past, and I think how much I've missed out on, usually when I sleep. My mind is always looking to the future, so I do tend to miss out on a lot. I'm not very good grade wise, average at best. I do love English and drawing classes though. According to test (Which are not always the most reliable) I'm 98% type 4, 95% type 9, and 94% type 5. Also, I am 100% an INFP.
Ur welcome to get TriTyped by future enneagram master Jonathan Campbell. The process would be you joining Jonathan and me in a Streamyard video where you respond to 9 x 20 statements and then we follow-up not just add up. It's a thorough process. :)
I think I'm a 4w5. The more of these videos I watch it makes me feel like im unhealthy I guess. I'm very neurotic. Lol like when I smoke weed my brain goes into a dark deep hole of self loathing.
Hi 4 friend! How are you doing? It’s interesting times. Confused between 4w3 & 4w5? I’m a 5w4 (heavy 4) and there are lots of similarities there. MBTI can be indicator but others as well... Hope you are well, S
Blue Soulfly I feel I was behaving more of 4w3 when I was younger but as I grow older I start to behave like the 4w5. I get contradictions though on both wanting to learn things, get detached and wanting to earn money, get admired by others.😄
. Today was the first day i started questioning myself as a 4w5. When I don’t really feel like it… sooo uhm let’s watch 2:09 update: so whatever reason it sounds like I’m a 4w5 when I’m healthy but 4w3 when I’m unhealthy. Does that make sense? 7:49
I’m a 4w5 INFP but I like wearing both colorful and muted colors in clothing so that might just be your friend’s preference but maybe it doesn’t apply to all 4w3s.
"a 4w5 wants to come off as credible, knowledgeable"
"a 4w3 wants to come off as... *cool* "
me, knowing most people assume I'm stupid anyways and have the lifelong dream of being cool: :D
It's so interesting watching you talk. Not to be weird but like I swear it's like watching myself talk. You have such a dreamy way of talking, like one can watch you gather your thoughts and compose them before using them.
Lmfao. It’s the “that wasn’t my real mustache” for me.
I love you already
i used to think i’m 4w5 due to my love for new knowledge and artistry, but after accepting that the reason why i want to be skilled and knowledgeable is because i want to impress others/be admired, i now believe i’m 4w3 😅 i don’t just want to be good, i want to be seen for being good
Yeah so true
Yup I acquire the skills so I can utilize them outwardly
You nailed the explanation. 45 wants to gain knowledge/skill to understand others and understand themselves. 43 wants to gain knowledge/skill to impress others or gain cool factor. A dead giveaway is expressive, 43 is more sociable, 45 is not.
My favorite 4w5 vs. 4w3 video that I've found on TH-cam. INFP 4w5 here. I had a sense that you might be an INFJ and was happy to hear later I'm the video that you identify as one. I like the way you present and express yourself.
I think I’m a mix of these two wings, so I just call myself a type 4. I’m trying to be more of a 4w3 getting out if the 4w5 shell as people often compliment my sense of style and art and humor and I think I could be more successful in these if I just was brave enough to put myself out there without fear of rejection
LMAO I’m infj 4w3 and legit thought I was 4w5 too. HAHAHAHA you are so funny your mannerisms are just like me 😂🤣😂🤣😂
This is difficult since I feel like I focus a lot on both performing and knowledge in my life 😂. But this video does make the differences a lot clearer so thank you!
I'm a 4 w3 even though I've always been extremely reclusive. However, I attribute this to having suffered from emotional neglect growing up where I was financially provided for but not much attention or guidance or encouragement in terms of extracurricular activities (which I was unaware of as a child). Now I've overcome a lot of social anxiety (finally) and my true w3 is more obvious and I do have sort of a "performance" way of behaving sometimes.
Just learned about wings today from a Frank James video. And now I'm here :) Pretty sure I'm a 4w3 and INFP.
when you said “4w5 is more sunken in, & …”
swear I said “reclusive” at the exact same millisecond as you ahah love your page! I get so excited when I find Ni doms, the language is v much understood aha
so happy to have found someone that can explain my silly brain! thank youu
I'm an INFJ 4w5. I like to act, but because playing a character interests me. I don't really care what the community thinks. It's amazing acting as another character. And I do tend to blurt out random stuff and look for validation, but only among the group of friends I respect. I seem extroverted around those Im comfortable around, but reserved around anyone else and am a true introvert in terms of receiving energy. For these reasons, it was hard to find my dominant wing. Also, the fact I hate neon colors comforts my position on being a 4w5. I will say, there is one trait of w3 that keeps me wondering and that's my need to stay productive, but I feel that's just an additive trait from my anxiety disorder lol
I found out that I may be an INFJ 4w3 male here. The way you talk, seems to mirror me in real life. btw youre a pretty girl, love ya HAHAHAAHA
Well descibed! I struggled with this for years until I realised I was both depending on what was happening in my life. I think it is because I spend a lot of time learning (5), then from that knowledge the ability to share it (3) forms. Then the cycle repeats. I have learned to love them both and use them accordingly. Great work x
I'm an INFJ 4w5.
I once told a colleague if I didn't have to publish anything I'd just write to myself in diary format. (I'm in academia).
The colleague in question is a 4w3 imo.
They spend a lot more time socializing than myself and once said that they fancy the idea of being a famous academic.
I'd only like to be famous when I'm dead so that in this life I can enjoy a secluded domestic life with my future wife and children 😊
I was very envious of 4w3 types in my late teens and early 20s. I tried really hard to be the 'life of the party' like them. But I really don't have their stamina.
I also don't like how cutthroat and self-promoting a lot of the party scene is. My childhood trauma is all about losing loved ones to the wordly rat-race.
I hate getting awards because I don't like to be loved for my 'success'. That was all that my mother loved me for and I've always wished she'd have loved me for my sincerity and imagination instead 😕
I think my mom was just unloving in general (for various reasons) but in my head I blamed her success-oriented values for the lack of love she showed me.
My dad on the other hand, was always taking up mom's slack. And he loved me not for my success but first for my sense of morality - he named me 'Justin' - and second for my intelligence (which I definitely get from him).
Had my mom loved me and my dad been neglectful I would probably be a 4w3...
I really enjoyed this video! I’m typed as 4 & can’t really decide on which wing best describes me, I relate to both just enough..
4W3 loves their audience, fans and lovers. I wish they love their family and friends like that too.
infp 4w3 here! I relate a lot to all of what you said about the differences between 4w3 and 4w5. I'm an infp, and since I am an infp, I am still introverted. There are times when I feel shy about getting into the spotlight, but when I'm called out, I don't reject them; I go and present myself somehow. It's pretty cool, honestly, knowing that I'm an introvert, but then I have this cool side where I don't feel embarrassed showing off what I've got when I know that I can do it. People have praised me because of that characteristic, which is why I was very happy while listening to all that you said about us 4w3s. Thank you, really.
Ive always thought i was 4w5 also, im starting to think i am 4w3 now also. I do wear bright bold colors and love to be stylish and unique.
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This is really interesting, I'm a 4 and I'm learning more about myself. I'm more on the 3 side when I'm healthiest and life is gravy, and more on the 5 side when I'm stressed
4w5 here. Pretty much hits the nail on the head for me.
Okay I've reached the state of relatability where I start hating on my typology cuz it's accurate uriejwjhfuseisow
Lol tho I appreciate your video it made finally rest myself as I was overthinking this thing for probably a week!
And your description was so clear and simple. I can see that because I'm Infj 4w5 and I have a 4w3 intp sister
Thanks for the info! It was really helpful :D
oh the same shit, if you hate it then it's true you ahahha
so i have a question, did you mistype yourself as infp and hated it?? 😂 I'm in torture right now cause I can't stand INFP type (sorry to INFPs) but I can't deside if I am INFP or INFJ 😅
I was 4w3 for ages I thought I was a 7 but actually taking the quiz where wings were inlcuded i got 4w3 and it described me to a T.
ENFP 4w3 here… I totally agree with your explanation 😅
I get the feeling that 4w5s are more sure of their wings than 4w3s BTW your video gives me a Twin Peaks vibe!
Not really, if you have anxiety or/and are stressed it will be hard for you to type yourself
@@_linlin_ But are 4w5s more stressed than 4w3s?
I'm a 4w3 as well! I actually found my way here during a Frank James live stream when I asked if an INFJ 4w3 exists. So glad I found your channel and thank you for the great explanation! I do understand the 4w5 a lot and I think I might have fluctuated between the two during my lifetime. I am very prone to perfection in my hobbies (writing/drawing/art in general) which is very 4w5 but due to the nature of my work as an engineer we are forced to get things done fast where perfectionism is allowed to influence but not to dictate our performance and I thrive in that environment which is why I definitely see myself as more of a 4w3. Again thanks and I look forward to more content! :)
Around 6:38 ... as a 4w5, oh yeah :) I've worked in data analysis and taught research methods at the graduate level. I try to avoid topics I haven't studied thoroughly, and if I *do* speak on something I care deeply about and know a thing or two and then someone "calls me out", they'd better be right ;) (they're usually not and I might be polite about it, but otherwise avoid them as an arrogant ignoramus, ha). Whereas as far as success, ha, I know I'm not very successful! (Traditionally or even by my own standards, honestly.)
2:00 ... "just went straight to a verb" hahahahahah
I started laughing when you said 4w3s overshare 😹 it meeeeee
This is the most helpful video on this topic I've seen. I thought I was a 4w5, but now see I'm a 4w3. Thanks!
I’m a 4 who leans like 58% wing 3, 42% wing 5 and I’m in a constant push pull battle between the two, like I always feel conflicted because I’m being pulled by both. Btw, 4’s aren’t necessarily introverted as you say. We can be withdrawn and brooding at times depending on our mood and feelings, but introverted or extroverted isn’t an inherent trait of 4’s. I think most people don’t know the true definition of introversion and extroversion and use them incorrectly. Now 4w3’s typically lean more extroverted and 4w5’s introverted, but the 4 itself doesn’t necessarily indicate a strong intro/extro.
That makes sense!
SP 4w5. That's me. Keep up the good work.
Yess my art is about self expression let’s gooo 4w5 sp/sx
I’m a bold dresser who hides ?? 🤔
Excited for the FJ collaboration
I like the presentation of your video as much as its content - thank you 😁!!
i'm 4w3 so I do feel very represented by that, but I also want to know about everything! but yeah, more likely to be very performative.
i think i may be 4w3. i can withdraw but i make creative works so that i can make positive change in the world, not just for myself.
L. Y ooooh that’s a good distinction
Great video, Molly! Your explanation of the Type 4's "wings" helped to reassure me that I am indeed a 4w5! Thank you! 😊💗🌻
This helped so much because this shit stay confusing ☠️
thanks for this video! I, too, identified as a 4w5 in the past, but I think I'm actually a 4w3. I think I believed I was a 4w5 because at the time I was dating an INTJ haha and would try to impress him by being more open to intellectual topics. Naturally however I think I may prefer doing other things hahaha. I feel very balanced though with my wings after that relationship :)))
What MBTI are you btw? :D
Edit: oh nvm you mentioned you were INFJ in the video oopsie!
Hahaha that is definitely relatable! It’s so funny how we can see ourselves differently based on the people we’re around the most. And hooray for balance 🎉
This was soooooo helpful! Everything you said seemed spot on! Felt like it filled a lot of holes to questions I had. Thank you 💖
It weird though. You said 4w3 thinks authenticity and success means love & 4w5 thinks authenticity means love and knowledge ensures security. But I’m very knowledge oriented. But I think authenticity and success will ensure love.
GESTICULATIONS FOR THE WIN !
4w3, ENFP
i'm definitely an infp 4w3
Can you please tell me where you got those frames 😫💗 you look gorgeous
AW. Somehow just saw this… got them from Firmoo! There’s a super deal on your first pair
I need a little help because I seem stuck between the two. I very much care about knowing a lot of things, so I can be a good person to go to all-around. I'm 100% introverted, I feel drained after long talks, even with the people I care about the most. I do like talking to people, but only the ones that I know very well and trust. I can overshare and undershare too. If I feel like the time is appropriate, and I know the person well, I usually overshare. I'm alright with most people not loving me, but I hope they can respect some of the things I do. Saying that I know what I'm doing, is a huge compliment to me because that means I'm doing something well. I am a very insecure person, I care about my looks a lot. I'm under the impression that I'm not that good-looking of a guy. People say I dress well, I honestly don't know if that's true. I usually wear darker colors, branded shirts (Adidas or Puma), my white Jordan's, or comfy but stylish running shoes, sweatpants, or light blue jeans. I do care a lot about my personal relationships, I hate losing friends, unless they're toxic. I'm pretty bad at keeping in touch, I don't really know who wants to talk to me more, other than my bestfriend. I believe I can find a good relationship by being myself. Anybody that'll accept me, help me emotionally sometimes, be true to me, and trust me is right for me. I daydream a lot about finding 'the one' and having kids. I regret what I've done in the past, and I think how much I've missed out on, usually when I sleep. My mind is always looking to the future, so I do tend to miss out on a lot. I'm not very good grade wise, average at best. I do love English and drawing classes though. According to test (Which are not always the most reliable) I'm 98% type 4, 95% type 9, and 94% type 5. Also, I am 100% an INFP.
Well this did not clear me up
Ur welcome to get TriTyped by future enneagram master Jonathan Campbell. The process would be you joining Jonathan and me in a Streamyard video where you respond to 9 x 20 statements and then we follow-up not just add up. It's a thorough process. :)
I think I'm a 4w5. The more of these videos I watch it makes me feel like im unhealthy I guess. I'm very neurotic. Lol like when I smoke weed my brain goes into a dark deep hole of self loathing.
Alright so it's more cleared up between the differences thanks! But now I'm confused on which I am
Hi 4 friend! How are you doing? It’s interesting times. Confused between 4w3 & 4w5? I’m a 5w4 (heavy 4) and there are lots of similarities there. MBTI can be indicator but others as well... Hope you are well, S
I loved this video. But I still have no clue because I relate to it allllll. I’m a 4w3&5 ??😭😭 I want to know
I'm confused. XD Because I resonate with both. I'm also an INFJ. New to enneagram just recently.
Blue Soulfly I feel I was behaving more of 4w3 when I was younger but as I grow older I start to behave like the 4w5. I get contradictions though on both wanting to learn things, get detached and wanting to earn money, get admired by others.😄
stop looking in my soul
you remind me of the queen's gambit
I like your glasses 👓
I wonder if two wheels could be considered a form of art way of life. 🤔
Camera looks great! Also you are so not shakey
Why are your pupils so huge mzbmsys not a diss btw your eyes are beautiful 😂💞
informative
i dont know if im a 4w5 or a 4w3 suppressing herself.
Wing 8 -7 here. What the hell do I do with this??? C’mon, Molls!
. Today was the first day i started questioning myself as a 4w5. When I don’t really feel like it… sooo uhm let’s watch 2:09
update: so whatever reason it sounds like I’m a 4w5 when I’m healthy but 4w3 when I’m unhealthy. Does that make sense? 7:49
ENTP-Ne 4w3 ... I think I'm in trouble
Is it possible that a 4w5 who is SO dominant might look like a 4w3?
ENFP 4 (just found out ) w3
INFJ 4w5 here
same❤️
Bruh I'm so confused
I have literally no idea which one I am yet lmfao can we be both hahaha
Hahaha I think it could mean you have found a nice balance bw wings.
i think i’m 4w3, BUT WHAT IF IM 4W5 ⁉️
GODDAMN THIS IS CONFUSING CAN I JUST BE BOTH LMAO
wach later
I’m a 4w5 INFP but I like wearing both colorful and muted colors in clothing so that might just be your friend’s preference but maybe it doesn’t apply to all 4w3s.
Very true