I knew he would absolutely hate it, but against my better judgement I do have a soft spot for the hangover. maybe cos I watched it when I was a teenager
"I don't like parties; and I don't like people" lol, this is why I like Mark Kermode. He's just on my wavelength. That's probably why I agree with him on his film reviews so often.
I agree with Mark that watching a movie and having an early night is a thousand times better than getting blindly drunk with your friends. But actually I'd rather go watch a movie *with my friends* and then have an early night.
I agree Kermode is a proper reviewer and he knows when a movie is bad and he will say it. Trouble is when it comes to comedies these days the humor is so silly and just lazy and they always seem to rely on celeb-cameos and you're expected to think they're great.
hangover is a decent film! Not the best film ever, but Good n funny comedy that i think does have its function in movie history. The sequels didn’t need to be made!
I went to see it with my friends, they all thought it was hilarous, I thought that it was not only startingly unfunny but incredibly ugly in every sense of the word. I'm so glad Kermode didn't like this movie. Sometimes it can feel like you're the only sane person in a mad world.
I usually dislike Mark Kermode and feel has is far too upper tight but for once I agree with him. It's not so much I find the film morally offensive in anyway, I just feel the main characters are unrelatable and badly written.
@Bassbait When I said 'remembered as being forgettable' I was indulging in a paradoxical neologism. Its like saying 'to know him is to hardly know him at all' when your describing a forgettable person, or even an enigmatic person I suppose. I was basically saying from my limited exposure to the film, same as your self, it did not seem funny to me. It was too obvious and they seemed to set up obvious gags and then they fell short constantly. Mike Tyson being an occasional exception.
Great review! I am the optimum age for this film and it was a very poor comedy in my opinion... I fell asleep in my first sitting, gave it another chance with my friends and it didn't change at all.
4:11 That is me every Christmas [doing a impression of Kermode referencing Mike Yarwood!] when the tedious 'Is Die Hard an Xmas movie?' comes up. Every year!
Goes to show you that comedy, aside from slapstick, is the least universal movie genre. It will fall flat if you have any disconnect from the subject matter. In this case Kermode's view of fun (a solo stag night?? wtf) and perhaps the culture class of being british (i.e., not 'merrican) made this movie totally unfunny to him. I found it one of the most funny movies I've seen recently.
poshzombie I agree. The reason he doesnt like movies of this type/ about those type of circumstances is because, as he himself said, "I don't like parties and I don't like people".
I laughed all the way through Anchorman. the only other time I did that in the last ten years was Borat, which I still think is one of the funniest films of all time.
@TulseLuper & @Videodrome24 Also Kick-Ass, In The Loop, Cemetary Junction, Shaun of the Dead, Dr Strangelove, Buster Keaton... The man has a sense of humour. He just doesn't hold with the current Apatow/Sandler/Rogen style strain of bawdy lad's humour running through mainstream comedy and Ican totally see where he's coming from, even if my tolerance for that sort of thing is a little more open than his (I liked the Hangover and Superbad, for example).
I watched it having managed to avoid all the publicity etc. I had no expectations. It made me laugh. The little fat chap with the baby was funny. The others were Ok and the set plays made me smirk and chortle a little. It wasn't inspired but it was funny (ish). Worth a watch.
@bladerunner7100 says the guy with "bladerunner" as a username. For the record I love "Jay and Silent Bob strike back", "Beavis and butthead do america", "Planes, trains and automobiles" and I hate the Hangover.
Looking back at The Hangover I still think it’s a classic. It’s dumb bro humour and when I was 12 it was hilarious but it still holds up as a well made comedy. Each person has their own opinion but I think the film has loads going for it. Why can’t we laugh at the dumb characters doing dumb shiz? It’s a leave your brain at the door film.
Whilst the film’s A little muddled in parts, the film is still A very funny, well crafted, stylish & terrifically acted comedy film. (79%) (4/5 stars) (positive)
I'm at university and so am of the age this film is aimed at. For me a good test of a comedy is if i remember it.....I've seen it once but I hardly remember The Hangover. All I remember is finding the bearded guy quite funny, although I can't remember anything he said.... :)
@molly0000000s I agree the actual film itself is mindless. Consequently it is forgettable and will be remembered as such. But it comes out of a stable of comedy films reviewed by Mark Kermode which have a very similar sense of humour even if the end result is a higher standard than the Hangover, films like Pineapple Express and Step brothers, which got fairly negative Kermode reviews. I know its subjective but its just the old style Laurel and Hardy style humour with a modern twist.
Mark Kermode's attitude towards what is viewed as 'misogyny' is actually rather old fashioned. Its an old 'alternative' idea he is still keeping strong whereas most people these days find much humour in previously sexist notions and treat them ironically for amusment. Its interesting that he condemns misogyny but defends his own misanthropy almost equally virulantly. Having said that I do agree, Vegas is the end of the world, 4am in Vegas looks just like a Ralph Steadman cartoon!
@TulseLuper Yeah, I think that's the main thing, there are too many films out there that have already done what most of the new comedies are doing right now and it's just boring.
@Bassbait That is quite correct. In fact I would go further to say that 'the hangover two' exceeds its predecessor and will go down in history as being one of the most forgettable films of all time....(;
@TulseLuper He gave Four Lions a good review... But didn't say it was funny. In fact, the exact opposite. A Serious Man is not a flat out comedy, either, I mean the ones where you have to turn off your brain and have a good time. The only exception to those is the American Pie movies.
@olqutseg At uni I got regularly drunk, went to clubs, got laid with strangers, did lots of drugs and went to raves. I had quite a fucking social life and I thought the hangover was a massive pile of overrated wank.
@BelatedCommiseration But it's in a trend of films that generally see women as some sort of amusing aside, and therefore is a widespread target of fun. I think given that, Mark Kermode is right to be on guard and criticise it as such. I find it's pretty lazy to make a film based on jokes about that. Any mug, as Danny Dyer would say, could do that.
@molly0000000s But like I say, its an established trend in films going back to almost the dawn of cinema itself. You have two or more fools who make idiots of themselves comedically whilst also, in the best films, exposing social double standards and ridiculous customs. Look at the Marx brothers in Duck soup and their taunts of rich dowagers, or charlie chaplin in his interactons with women, and sometimes the brutes that harass them. The key fact to remember is that the apparent (cont)
I actually agree with this review. I just didn't think this movie was all that. And it's not that I don't like this kind of movie - I just didn't really like this one.
@badhead I think people are looking into these comedies waaaaaay to hard, its funny for the randomness, the tiger scene is funny, not because Im going, *MAN I REMEMBER WHEN I STOLE A TIGER WHILE DRUNK!* its because its sooooo random, thus over exaggerated which is why its funny, weird shit happens with a *boys* night out getting hammered, not the best movie but im not watching this movie for plot, or dramatic scenes, im watching it to laugh...
@molly0000000s To be fair I don't agree with mindless misogeny and sexism, but it can be seen as funny in a certain context. Like the film 'Kickass' for example i.e Nicholas Cage being a typical apples and pie smiling dad whilst at the same time teaching his little girl how to rip a guys head off. I was really making a point about Mark Kermodes attitude rather than the film, which I find forgettable, in as much as I believe Kermode can be overly concerned about political correctness at times.
I laughed at Mike Tyson singing, unfortunately, that was the trailer and by the time the movie came out i'd seen the best joke on tv 80 times and the rest of the film was lacking in more jokes.
Yeah, when I watched this movie I certainly never laughed. My mouth was agape the whole time, not because I was 'shocked' by the 'outrageousness' of the 'humour,' but because the movie grossed $200m in America. The top grossing comedies of years ago were things like Some Like It Hot and The Odd Couple. Ah f*ck it, even other annoying yet mega-grossing frat boy movies like Animal House and Porky's are extremely funny when compared to this Lincoln log.
@ComandoPadentro So critics always have to review movies in such a way as to "respect the people behind it or those who might like them"? Some movies are just crass and offensive to the sensibilities of anyone who isn't an idiot. Take for instance the transformers series, are critics meant to give credit to michael bay simply because his trash is making money? Why have critics in the first place if they are meant to review movies with a twisted sense of relativism which actually is pretentious.
Whilst I probably liked The Hangover a little more than Mark, I do agree that it is overrated and not particularly memorable IMO. The characters (to me) seemed rather bland and a lot of the situations were rather predictable. Films like American Pie or Superbad (which I know Mark doesn't like) and shows like The Inbetweeners are crude but they had funny, sympathetic characters that were, on the whole, more engaging and memorable. Entertaining film but thats it really.
I think this hits the nail on the head for me too about my problems with Kermode's attitude. I've been aware of him for years but recently read his most recent book (which is very good although I agreed with him progressivlely less as it went on). On the back of that I've been watching a lot of his reviews. He's often insightful and funny but his condescension towards anyone that doesn't see things his way and his outdated 70's anti-male feminism grate on me a lot.
God I love Mark: 'I don't like parties and I don't like people.'
+katiemiaana The type of think i tought but never say outloud
I have laughed more times at this review than I did the Hangover.
"I don't like parties and I don't like people and I don't like hangovers." Never change, dear Mark... Never change. :)
"Didn't you think to invite some people?"
"... No."
Brilliant
Mark’s personal anecdote at the end of this review is so perfect
7:51 URGHHEHARGHHH WITH THE LADS
I knew he would absolutely hate it, but against my better judgement I do have a soft spot for the hangover. maybe cos I watched it when I was a teenager
He went to see the exorcist on his stag night: yeah, that sounds like the mark kermode I know.
"I don't like parties; and I don't like people"
lol, this is why I like Mark Kermode. He's just on my wavelength. That's probably why I agree with him on his film reviews so often.
kermode is such a legend, his reviews are so true
KERMODE IS RIGHT. AND SO AM I.
I agree with Mark that watching a movie and having an early night is a thousand times better than getting blindly drunk with your friends. But actually I'd rather go watch a movie *with my friends* and then have an early night.
real men watch The Exorcist by themselves
07:33 That's the most Mark Kermode bachelor party imaginable.
"I don't like parties and I don't like people and I don't like hangovers."
I think me and Mark may be kindred spirits.
I agree Kermode is a proper reviewer and he knows when a movie is bad and he will say it. Trouble is when it comes to comedies these days the humor is so silly and just lazy and they always seem to rely on celeb-cameos and you're expected to think they're great.
I love Mark Kermode's take on things. I think he's a little off on this one, based on the way he sees life but I appreciate his critique.
Mark's saying that Las Vegas is the end of the world? Surely he's. Discussing Lloret De Mar! ;)
Was your email the first or second one?
The one thing I liked about the movie was the wedding singer. He was funny.
hangover is a decent film! Not the best film ever, but Good n funny comedy that i think does have its function in movie history. The sequels didn’t need to be made!
Yes, agree. Clearly Mrs Kermode didn't like it.
HAHA love Mark Kermode..I dont like people, I dont like hangovers and I don't like that particular hangover you legend!
LOL @ Kermode's stag night.
this is one of the most powerful reviews on the internet
I went to see it with my friends, they all thought it was hilarous, I thought that it was not only startingly unfunny but incredibly ugly in every sense of the word.
I'm so glad Kermode didn't like this movie. Sometimes it can feel like you're the only sane person in a mad world.
I'm going to Las Vegas in a couple of days :s
"I don't like parties, I don't like people and I don't like hangovers"
I love Mark Kermode. That sounds like a great Stagg Night.
I usually dislike Mark Kermode and feel has is far too upper tight but for once I agree with him. It's not so much I find the film morally offensive in anyway, I just feel the main characters are unrelatable and badly written.
It's called 'the Hangover'. What did you expect - poetry?
"I don't like people" Shock revelation from Dr Kermode, there.
@Bassbait When I said 'remembered as being forgettable' I was indulging in a paradoxical neologism. Its like saying 'to know him is to hardly know him at all' when your describing a forgettable person, or even an enigmatic person I suppose. I was basically saying from my limited exposure to the film, same as your self, it did not seem funny to me. It was too obvious and they seemed to set up obvious gags and then they fell short constantly. Mike Tyson being an occasional exception.
Great review! I am the optimum age for this film and it was a very poor comedy in my opinion... I fell asleep in my first sitting, gave it another chance with my friends and it didn't change at all.
Hangover 2 and 3 are cash grab bores...but the first Hangover is a wonderful movie. I wish Todd Phillips had passed on making this a trilogy.
4:11 That is me every Christmas [doing a impression of Kermode referencing Mike Yarwood!] when the tedious 'Is Die Hard an Xmas movie?' comes up. Every year!
Goes to show you that comedy, aside from slapstick, is the least universal movie genre. It will fall flat if you have any disconnect from the subject matter. In this case Kermode's view of fun (a solo stag night?? wtf) and perhaps the culture class of being british (i.e., not 'merrican) made this movie totally unfunny to him. I found it one of the most funny movies I've seen recently.
poshzombie I agree. The reason he doesnt like movies of this type/ about those type of circumstances is because, as he himself said, "I don't like parties and I don't like people".
You should try watch a movie like this when you're in a bad mood, you'll understand what the problem is.
I laughed all the way through Anchorman. the only other time I did that in the last ten years was Borat, which I still think is one of the funniest films of all time.
@oshman4 what's sexism?
@TulseLuper & @Videodrome24 Also Kick-Ass, In The Loop, Cemetary Junction, Shaun of the Dead, Dr Strangelove, Buster Keaton... The man has a sense of humour. He just doesn't hold with the current Apatow/Sandler/Rogen style strain of bawdy lad's humour running through mainstream comedy and Ican totally see where he's coming from, even if my tolerance for that sort of thing is a little more open than his (I liked the Hangover and Superbad, for example).
I watched it having managed to avoid all the publicity etc. I had no expectations. It made me laugh. The little fat chap with the baby was funny. The others were Ok and the set plays made me smirk and chortle a little. It wasn't inspired but it was funny (ish). Worth a watch.
@bladerunner7100
says the guy with "bladerunner" as a username. For the record I love "Jay and Silent Bob strike back", "Beavis and butthead do america", "Planes, trains and automobiles" and I hate the Hangover.
I’m surprised mark kermode went to Las Vegas, I would have thought Plovdiv or st Petersburg would have been more to his taste
@OxTheWriter nice one!
Looking back at The Hangover I still think it’s a classic. It’s dumb bro humour and when I was 12 it was hilarious but it still holds up as a well made comedy. Each person has their own opinion but I think the film has loads going for it. Why can’t we laugh at the dumb characters doing dumb shiz? It’s a leave your brain at the door film.
@TulseLuper
And In The Loop, Dr. Strangelove, Kickass, Scott Pilgrim...
Bless Mark Kermode.
@badhead It's because all the boys either wish they were like them or are glad to have their own exploits being reaffirmed by a popular medium.
fuckin loved his film when it came out. watched it recently and mark was right
Whilst the film’s A little muddled in parts, the film is still A very funny, well crafted, stylish & terrifically acted comedy film. (79%) (4/5 stars) (positive)
@olqutseg It IS called The Hangover
i plan to have a kermodian stag night, only my movie will be brazil, with maybe disney's pinnochio as a chaser. 70 mill prints of course.
"I don't like parties and I don't like people and I don't like hangovers... or that hangover in particular."
I'm at university and so am of the age this film is aimed at. For me a good test of a comedy is if i remember it.....I've seen it once but I hardly remember The Hangover. All I remember is finding the bearded guy quite funny, although I can't remember anything he said.... :)
'Dude, where's my wedding?'
Too much.
i hated it. My companion loved it and told me i was dead inside.
@molly0000000s I agree the actual film itself is mindless. Consequently it is forgettable and will be remembered as such. But it comes out of a stable of comedy films reviewed by Mark Kermode which have a very similar sense of humour even if the end result is a higher standard than the Hangover, films like Pineapple Express and Step brothers, which got fairly negative Kermode reviews. I know its subjective but its just the old style Laurel and Hardy style humour with a modern twist.
Mike Tiresome
I bet you wouldn’t say to his face
😅😂🤣
@TulseLuper you're defending his comedy critique based on him liking american pie?
@olqutseg
I did that, and was a mega-nerd in uni! I agree though, Vegas is the end of the world! Had a great time there though...
Mark Kermode's attitude towards what is viewed as 'misogyny' is actually rather old fashioned. Its an old 'alternative' idea he is still keeping strong whereas most people these days find much humour in previously sexist notions and treat them ironically for amusment. Its interesting that he condemns misogyny but defends his own misanthropy almost equally virulantly. Having said that I do agree, Vegas is the end of the world, 4am in Vegas looks just like a Ralph Steadman cartoon!
@TulseLuper Yeah, I think that's the main thing, there are too many films out there that have already done what most of the new comedies are doing right now and it's just boring.
It's bollocks. I understand the sequels are even worse.
Based Mark with his stag night story
@Bassbait That is quite correct. In fact I would go further to say that 'the hangover two' exceeds its predecessor and will go down in history as being one of the most forgettable films of all time....(;
7:33 "what a wierdo!" hahahahaha
7:38 - 7:50 hahaha Mark is just great.
@TulseLuper He gave Four Lions a good review... But didn't say it was funny. In fact, the exact opposite. A Serious Man is not a flat out comedy, either, I mean the ones where you have to turn off your brain and have a good time. The only exception to those is the American Pie movies.
I love this guy:) "I don't like people..."
This is the only place i've been where someone shares the same opinion as me about this film. I laughed once..
Dis guy must be an alien or sutin.
It's JerryBaboona!
SkagWinesack He can always tell a alien or sutin.
I agree with Mark. I dont understand why movies about drunken ladishness are so popular theses days.
Ha! Kermode was alone on his stag night!? That is VERY revealing. Freudian, in fact..
@olqutseg At uni I got regularly drunk, went to clubs, got laid with strangers, did lots of drugs and went to raves. I had quite a fucking social life and I thought the hangover was a massive pile of overrated wank.
He forgot Casino. That's another Vegas-as-Hell movie.
It sounds like Very Bad Things, which was good.
@BelatedCommiseration But it's in a trend of films that generally see women as some sort of amusing aside, and therefore is a widespread target of fun. I think given that, Mark Kermode is right to be on guard and criticise it as such. I find it's pretty lazy to make a film based on jokes about that. Any mug, as Danny Dyer would say, could do that.
@molly0000000s But like I say, its an established trend in films going back to almost the dawn of cinema itself. You have two or more fools who make idiots of themselves comedically whilst also, in the best films, exposing social double standards and ridiculous customs. Look at the Marx brothers in Duck soup and their taunts of rich dowagers, or charlie chaplin in his interactons with women, and sometimes the brutes that harass them. The key fact to remember is that the apparent (cont)
I actually agree with this review. I just didn't think this movie was all that. And it's not that I don't like this kind of movie - I just didn't really like this one.
@badhead I think people are looking into these comedies waaaaaay to hard, its funny for the randomness, the tiger scene is funny, not because Im going, *MAN I REMEMBER WHEN I STOLE A TIGER WHILE DRUNK!* its because its sooooo random, thus over exaggerated which is why its funny, weird shit happens with a *boys* night out getting hammered, not the best movie but im not watching this movie for plot, or dramatic scenes, im watching it to laugh...
@Videodrome24 No but he's right - I mean I'm 20 and just didn't find this funny ... nor do I know why everyone else did.
@molly0000000s To be fair I don't agree with mindless misogeny and sexism, but it can be seen as funny in a certain context. Like the film 'Kickass' for example i.e Nicholas Cage being a typical apples and pie smiling dad whilst at the same time teaching his little girl how to rip a guys head off. I was really making a point about Mark Kermodes attitude rather than the film, which I find forgettable, in as much as I believe Kermode can be overly concerned about political correctness at times.
I laughed at Mike Tyson singing, unfortunately, that was the trailer and by the time the movie came out i'd seen the best joke on tv 80 times and the rest of the film was lacking in more jokes.
this was a great movie, end off it takes alot to impress this guy
Yeah, when I watched this movie I certainly never laughed.
My mouth was agape the whole time, not because I was 'shocked' by the 'outrageousness' of the 'humour,' but because the movie grossed $200m in America.
The top grossing comedies of years ago were things like Some Like It Hot and The Odd Couple. Ah f*ck it, even other annoying yet mega-grossing frat boy movies like Animal House and Porky's are extremely funny when compared to this Lincoln log.
not as bad as "dude, where's my car?"
i dont like partys i dont like peaple and i dont like hangovers LOL
kermode ur da man
I really didn't find the Hangover funny but I love Anchorman.
@ComandoPadentro So critics always have to review movies in such a way as to "respect the people behind it or those who might like them"? Some movies are just crass and offensive to the sensibilities of anyone who isn't an idiot. Take for instance the transformers series, are critics meant to give credit to michael bay simply because his trash is making money? Why have critics in the first place if they are meant to review movies with a twisted sense of relativism which actually is pretentious.
The first one is better than the second one.
Anchorman had a hell of a lot more charm than the hangover.
Come on Mark - the movie is not original or smart, but it's hillarious
just watched it. i smirked once. i honestly don't get what all the fuss is about.
Whilst I probably liked The Hangover a little more than Mark, I do agree that it is overrated and not particularly memorable IMO. The characters (to me) seemed rather bland and a lot of the situations were rather predictable. Films like American Pie or Superbad (which I know Mark doesn't like) and shows like The Inbetweeners are crude but they had funny, sympathetic characters that were, on the whole, more engaging and memorable. Entertaining film but thats it really.
he is right, the hangover is rubbish
Its a thing called education.
I think this hits the nail on the head for me too about my problems with Kermode's attitude. I've been aware of him for years but recently read his most recent book (which is very good although I agreed with him progressivlely less as it went on). On the back of that I've been watching a lot of his reviews. He's often insightful and funny but his condescension towards anyone that doesn't see things his way and his outdated 70's anti-male feminism grate on me a lot.
I'm with you Mark. Spot on. Crass misogynistic predictable boring swill.
I used to think Anchorman was really funny, watched it again recently and it's really not as funny as i originally thought. Has it's charm though.
this movie was much funnier than The Hangover 2
Reviewers should take on comedy it is too subjective...I wonder what he thinks of Monty Python...