This is the first review of yours I've seen. Really comprehensive, I found myself watching intently. Fair play, you do a cracking job. 👍 Bike looks good value but needs more noise.
Not really my kind of bike, but I do really like it. Lots of lovely aspects like the seat, screen, great pegs, rear rack, lovely engine. Great review as usual.
My friend and I went for the Benelli 702 after your review, my friend went with the green 702 x , he ordered it from Pool moto who delivered it to him on the Wirral near liverpool, fantastic service from them, I went for the black 702 which is a bit lower as I have a Dickie hip, were really pleased with the bikes as they have that bit more punch than the Cf , thanks for all your reviews , your the only guy I go to for a no nonsense accurate review 👍
Extremely well-equipped motorcycle: centre stand, tubeless spoked wheels, rack, great dash, effective screen. Looks well-finished, as well. What great value. It really makes you think that there is no need for more. Thorough review, as ever, Mark.
I rode a DS525X in France last October. I’d just ordered a 300 Rally from the dealer and at the same time arranged to have a new rear tyre fitted to my 2021 500X. When I turned up for the tyre change the dealer asked if I would like to try the brand new DS525 that he had just put on trade plates. It had less than 10 km on the clock. I took it out and enjoyed riding it. It is so well equipped it’s a real bargain at the price. It was hard to make any real performance comparisons with my 500X but I enjoyed riding the Voge and even managed a bit of off road riding. I then rode the hour’s ride home on the 500X. When I got home I was pleased because although I had found the DS525X really good to ride, comfortable, coming fully specced at a very good price I wasn’t tempted to trade in my Honda just yet. It’s difficult to make any subjective comparison between the two because the Voge was so new but on my ride home the Honda was simply nicer to ride. That didn’t surprise me, the 500X is the best bike I’ve ever owned and after trading in the Pan European that I had owned for nine years before it my annual mileage doubled. That says it all, it’s a great touring bike for my needs. Having said that the Voge ran it close and that’s a big positive for it. Add in the equipment level and price and I’m sure that it will be very successful in that part of the market. I would certainly recommend that anyone interested in a lower mid-range adventure touring bike to have a very close look at one.
Impressive’little’ adventure tourer Mark. Just the right size without feeling top heavy.I only hope they make it across the pond here in Canada.Thanks,
Hi Mark, first of all let me give my overall impression on this bike review : This is the best bike review of ANY bike I've ever watched. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You take your audience through all of the thought processes when contemplating the purchase of a middleweight 'sport' tourer so well, so thoroughly, so calmly; that the only thing left to do is - go and buy a Voge 525X !! I'm currently running a Himalayan 411 after a lifetime of bigger, more powerful bikes and I'm in the market for additional or replacement bike. The only question left in my mind is, will the Voge 525X be just a bit physically too small as I'm 6 ft and 110 kgs. But fortunately I have a test ride booked in with my local VOGE on friday so I can resolve the size issue then. Thanks again for all the quality work you've obviously put in, to present the bike to us. Subscribed. PS I have been trying to get a ride on the new Himmie 452 (which is what I would really I love, I think) but over here in France no-one appears to have deliveries of them yet. What is your opinion/comparison of the two bikes, as both would do what I want done and are in the same ballpark price-wise here in France.
Hi Dave many thanks I really appreciate that...the himi 450 is slow at the moment as we speak it's being delivered in the UK ....I'll give you a full review of the Himalayan very soon ....but I think I'd prefer the voge tbh Best wishes
Nice review Mark.. what a great bike for the money!!!, That engine almost looks like the Honda engine... I love all the stuff you get with this bike that you would have to pay extra for, I'm gunna stick my neck out now.... If this bike isn't a massive seller in the UK i'll eat my hat! 🤪. Cheers Mark 😊
As in a lot of the other comments Mark, a fantastic review! you've sold me on this bike, I want one!! I think it looks fantastic, unbelievable just what you get for your money, an extra £500 over the standard bike for a complete luggage set, and it looks to be aluminium? Hmm . . my local dealer in Hinckley has these bikes in stock . . . Yes dear it makes perfect sense for me to have two bikes . . . no really 🤔😅
Another excellent and comprehensive appraisal. These really do look good and, visually, is very much like the CFMoto 800MT. Both offer fantastic value. These negative perceptions of Chinese bikes will change in time, I'm sure. After all, Japanese bikes of the 60s had a similar welcome. Good work, Mark. 👍
Wow, fabulous review! I really appreciate that you haven’t been biased by this being a Chinese machine, as other reviews I’ve seen on here do. Well done Mark! My daily ride is a Harley Ultra Limited and I am about to get a second ride because while I love the Harley, it is not the most practical machine. I was thinking of buying a NX500 but now I’ve seen your review, I’m going to give the Voge a try. After all, I want the best motorcycle I can afford and have no reason to be more loyal to the Japanese than the Chinese. Thanks Mark.
I absolutely believe that the Chinese can make a bike or car to any quality point you want to specify for a budget. The only reasons I wouldn't buy one are 1. Dealership networks are thin on the ground and small-time so there is a worry about warranty work and getting parts. 2. The perception about Chinese bikes needs to change in the general public. This situation is exactly where we were with Japanese cars and bikes in the 1970s. While we can find that ignorance amusing, at this point in time it means that Chinese bikes will depreciate hard or even be unsellable on the used market.
@@zootiusexactly what us with a brain are thinking. I've just looked at all the comments on the 452 Himmy review - blah blah blah CFMoto....but which bike would you want to use in the REAL adventure world where you ride across continents? Oh, that would be the Himmy then 😉
Well mark that bike got me... written alover it why? Value ..well equipped ... light and fast enough fairly simple....quality tyres... (just bought same for my vstrom).and the icing on the the cake my name intials on side DS😂😂😂 even your review bike reg DSX.....😂😂 I've had Cfmoto 650 in the past no issues at all...cheers mark...
Very nice looking bike with a good spec and good price, only thing missing is heated grips, which is a shame. A back to back review of this bike with the CFMoto 450MT would be really useful😄
Thank you for another well done review Mark. Although these motorcycles will never show up in the states. I can see why. Our Honda dealer has CF Moto in stock, and nobody seems to want to buy them. I could be wrong though. All in all, the motorcycle looks very good and capable.
Excellent bike, they could have offered storage in the fairing bodywork. Looks like a lot of space behind the plastic. Would be nice see a waterproof, lockable cubbies with a power outlet to charge the phone, keep gloves or camera etc.
Like them or not, It's getting harder to ignore the Chinese brands,. I'm beginning to give one or two models serious thought. Great review as always Mark, really nice to see you give exposure to the lesser known manufacturers.
Usual top review. LCD screen didn't seem that clear in daytime riding though that could just be your GoPro. Given the impressive level of equipment I'm surprised it's not TFT.
Hi Mark. Excellent review, I found your explanation and analysis of the bikes’ features to be very thorough. Additional elements I would have found useful would be some of the more practical features, such as how the rear suspension is adjusted - is there a remote for the preload or do you have to manually adjust with a C spanner, and how easy is it to get at; where is the oil fill and drain and the filter and how accessible are they for home maintenance; does it come with a toolkit and what’s inside it; just some thoughts I had after watching. It would be great to see a review of all these different value for money options and a comparison of where they are similar and where they differ. Many thanks, Richard from Cornwall.
G'day Mark, good review, if your in the marker for an adventure Bike these days your spoilt for choice, the bike feature is one of the cheapest but still has the features of a more expensive brand, each too their own but money is money and this bike would do me, cheers mate, Neil 🤠.
I do like this style of bike, and I really do like the price. A very appealing machine for everyday use.... P.S. Great to see the New Forest and Poole Harbour...Can't wait for 'bike-night' on summer Tuesday's at the quayside...
Another wonderful review. The burning question is "would you buy one with your own money?" I've had a break from riding for a few years & am looking to get back into commuting & UK bike touring; your opinion would be greatly valued!
This is a nice, long, comprehensive review. Question, the screen looked quite dim when you were riding, is it like that in person or is it brighter? If you were to choose between this or a cf moto 450mt, himalayan 450 and an nx500, which would you choose and why? Keep up the good work and God bless. 👍🏿
Hi no the screen is bright enough...it's just a bit reflective Id go for the cfmoto it wipes the floor,:). Value performance the engine is amazing...off road abilities...wind protection Best wishes
Hi yes the benelli definitely feels stronger ....but this voge still rides just as well....I'd go with the voge just felt perfect for me Best wishes mark
Hi yes sport /Eco made no noticeable difference...bit of a gimmick Service intervals...I'm guessing are the same as the ac525x which is 6000km/4000 km Cheers mark
I sold a much bigger and heavier bike in February and have been looking for an affordable, lighter ADV and seem to have found it. I ordered one of these earlier today without the luggage as I’d never use it. I ride mostly on my own these days so the performance is sufficient and the weight should be more manageable for me. Should arrive late April in time for some better weather hopefully, thanks Mark 🙄
Squinting through one eye sideways on looked like nc750. Love reviews of these left choice bikes. Still couldnt part with cash though. Mainly cos dealership woes
Nice to see a center stand for once, they have become a rarity on modern motorcycles, so thumbs up to Voge for that. Golden rims are a strange choice for an adventure bike, not my taste and those on the Voge are impossible to ignore, I was surprised that they didn't glow in the dark!
Hi in the UK there will be approximately 30 or so dealers up and down the country....voge are popular so parts through Moto GB should be fine Cheers mark
Love it but not the price cuz for the almost same ammount I can buy QJMOTOR SVT 650X here in my country. Same build quality with more hp and torque. Ofc different look. If this is a A2 licence then I can understand :). Great looking bike btw. Also that tft looking dark on a sunny day and that is a complaint.
I wanted to like this bike but when I sat on it I felt like it was just entirely too big with poor visibility over the front - this is no doubt due to me being 5’6”. These are really cheap second hand but alas it’s not for me. Great review as always!!
Hi Andrea the voge is very good... amazing spec for the money...MCN rated it very highly against the nx500 Personally I'd go for the voge because I found it so comfortable Try them both out of you can Best wishes mark
@markpulling12 Thanks for replying, myself, and my partner look forward to your bike reviews as we are starting our bike journey 😀, we both sat on the NX500, and now definitely excited about sitting on the Voge 👌
Hi Mark, Awesome review. I am trying to decide between the Voge DS525X and the Honda NC750X. have watched both your reviews but still undecided. Is there anything that splits them apart for you, and which of the two would you buy for touring? Thanks. Leon
Hi Leon the 750 would definitely be the best for touring with it's low revving 750 engine...alot more relaxed The 500s are still ok but a bit buzzier The nx500 is brilliant as well 😄 Cheers mark
@@markpulling12 Thanks thats great. I'm trying to decide because the spec of the Voge is huge value for money. I would only get a 2021 Honda for the same money as the Voge new. Is the Voge going to be suitable for two hours on a motorway?
So, I have done with this bike almost 6000 kilometers (3800 miles). Here in Greece brand new it costs 5995€. You get a lot of bike for your money. - Very good sitting position for short to medium height riders, that gets best when adding Bar Risers (tall riders will get a bit cramped due to the position of the footrests) - The bike is very nimble through traffic, excellent roller coaster on twisties and very comfortable on highways. - Front and Rear Suspensions work very good, although the Front is a bit soft and dives under heavy braking -Front Brakes are very good and Back Brake is just adequate (both Nissin) . Brake pumps are good, but you need better Brake Pads in order to get the best Braking possible. - The Clutch is ridiculously light and the gear changing, despite being a bit clunky and noisy, they are very accurate. - The heat from the engine is very tolerable and once it gets 100°C on very hot days, the Fan comes on and instantly drops it. - The Fuel Consumption is generally good, but it is mostly determined by your right wrist. If you go bananas, you can see 5.5 litres per 100 kilometres (51 MPG), but most of the times you are at around 4.5/100 kms (63 MPG). Check out my Fuel Ups : www.fuelly.com/motorcycle/voge/_525dsx/2023/georgecbf125/1233779 - ABS and Traction Control work very well. Especially the TCS, once it detects that you rode fast over a big pothole, it immediately cuts the power for safer passage over that. - Metzeler Tourance have really good grip and are A-MA-ZI-NG on wet surfaces, but they need some time to get warm and they don't provide the best feedback from the road. - Stock Windshield is rubbish, just get a bigger one from AliExpress (a 47cm would be enough if you are less than 1.80m in height). - Stock Seat is OK for doing your in-town rides, but if you plan on sitting for more than 45 minutes, you will eventually gets a sore butt. The width is good, but lacks padding, so go to an Upholstery store and put some more foam. - Stock Chain is mediocre quality, but it does the job. - The Gearing is a bit short. The 1st Gear is almost non existent and after 80-85 kph (50-55 mph) you feel that you must put 6th. So, I changed from a 15T Front Sprocket to a 16T and now the 1st Gear is usable, you put the 6th only when you want to cruise (I now get 140 kph at 6000 RPMs) , BUT I lost the instant "boom" from the start and around 20 kph from Top Speed. - There is an annoying buzz at 4000 RPMs. This is due to the fact that the bike has to adapt to the Euro5 and A2 Regulations, because it naturally produces 54-55 HP and now it has 48 HP (it has 3 Catalysts). - The LCD Screen is nice, but not very visible under direct sunlight - LED headlights and the standard Fog Lights provide fantastic lighting in the dark All in all, don't be afraid to buy it. It is a very versatile and fun bike to ride. The Honda NX500 costs 2000€ more and it is short 1,000-1,200€ on equipment, so the Voge seems fantastic value
γεια σου φιλε.μπραβο για την αναλυση σου!για τοσο μεγαλη μηχανη 47 ιπποι δεν ειναι πολυ λιγοι?εγω τωρα xt600 οδηγαω,και θα παρω καινουρια μηχανη,μαρεσει αυτο,αλλα θελω περισσοτερο γκαζι απτο XT,που ειναι στους 40 ιππουσ και 5 κιλα ροπη.δηλαδη αν εχεις και δευτερο ατομο,ποση ωρα κανει να πιασει τα 140 να κανεις μια προσπεραση ας πουμε?γιαυτο ισως παω για το trk702,μπορει και για το 900ds.θα δουμε,θα παω στην εκθεση σε δυο βδομαδες να τα δω απο κοντα.
@@thodoris3790 Μια χαρά τα πιάνει τα 140 ακομα και δικαβαλο. Το μηχανάκι δεν είναι ασθενικο όπως ενα CB500X, αλλά έχει νεύρο και δύναμη,γιατί κανονικά είναι παραπάνω απο 48 αλογα. Και ολα αυτά τα κάνει με πολύ καλή κατανάλωση καυσίμου. Το TRK702 είναι παρα πολύ βαρύ και κάτω απο 5,5/100 δε θα δεις ποτέ. Το 900DS είναι μια τελείως διαφορετική κατηγορία
@@thodoris3790 Έχω 6000 χλμ χωρίς κανένα θέμα. Κατανάλωση μεσα στην πόλη με γρήγορο ρυθμό στα 4,3/100. Εκτός πόλης με γρήγορο ρυθμό 4-4,1/100. Εαν πας νορμαλ χωρίς απότομα ανοίγματα, είσαι στο 3,5-3,7/100. Ολες οι μετρήσεις στην αντλια. Είναι καλο μηχανάκι. Στρίβει παρα πολύ καλά, έχει ωραία καβάλα, καλα φρενάκια, καλο τραβηγμα, πολύ ελαστικότητα έχει το μοτέρ, η θερμοκρασία που βγάζει δε σε ενοχλεί. Ουσιαστικά, οι μόνες αλλαγές που χρειάζεται να κάνει κάποιος είναι μια μεγαλύτερη ζελατίνα ή ενα φρυδακι , να προσθέσει λίγο αφρώδες στη σελα και να βαλει ενα φίλτρο ελευθέρας, για να ξεμπουκωσει. Συνολο όλα αυτά 80€.
Very satisfied with the bike, I have already done 5000 km with it including long trips. I equipped it with higher windscreen and heated grips. Best buy. Too speed so far 186km.
Really nice looking bike with loads on it, but I think for touring, cruise control is a must even if an option at purchase. Think this is the only thing that will hinder it for touring. Great bike for commuting and ride outs though.
I’m a Brit living in Russia . I really miss my bike , I’ve looked on line and Voge have a number of dealers here and prices are similar to UK, other brands are way more expensive. The advertised hp is up on Europe’s at 54.9 due to A2 licence Regs I guess. It’s an itch that ai may have to scratch
hi on some of the review i have seen on the voge ds525x they are saying it is very vibe in bars the seat and pegs and even more after a few miles on the bike ,
Hi colin ..there are a few vibes...nothing too bad but totally normal for a twin ...its no worse than the cb500x honda ....on the whole for general riding i found it to be a great engine cheers mark
Hi Mark i have the benelli trk 502x ,nothing but smiles per mile . But call me nieve, but found out today that Citroën, volvo ,ford ,bmw , the list goes on all mostly made in China. the prices will shoot up when people, realise how good they are
Over 50 years of riding my style and brand of bike has changed many times, now its the change to an "adv bike". At 64 I've always been put off by the too top heavyness of this style, but this looks like it's just what I'm looking for. Personally I would prefer cruise over traction control 😮
Hi if you need the extra power then definitely the benelli but overall I preferred the voge ....very well put together...good price ... great spec and suspension Cheers mark
@@markpulling12 I don’t need the extra power! You showed it’s plenty power enough! I just wondered how it be on motorway? And you showed it goes well ! Thanks
As an owner of the (amazing) Voge 300 Rally, I was looking forward to this as something that would be better for distance but still off road oriented. Sadly though, this one seems to follow the herd with small wheels and other more road biased bits. (footrests for one). On the brighter side though. The new CF Moto 450MT (18" 21" wheels) is coming soon which should better suit my needs. (I've already got a deposit down). The Voge certainly looks like a nice bike and great value but can't help wondering if it's just another 500 adventure bike that's not entirely suited to adventure?
A lot of bike for the money, no doubt. But I feel that you would probably have to ride it until it drops. I can’t imagine that it’ll hold a good resale value.
Hi sir good day how are you? Have you tried the cf moto 450mt? What your thoughts and which those bikes will you recommed for first big adv bike owner? Thank you Sir and Stay Safe.
looks great and price is superb its just to slow and i am not a speedster i rode the benelli trk502 the same like a maxi scooter the speed for overtaking riding with two up maybe the cfmoto 800mt has the power but at that price there is the vstrom i own a yamaha fjr1300 so maybe thats the problem
It looks a good bike at a good price but would i go for it before a CB or NX 500, no i wouldn't. The Honda speaks for itself quality wise, there's dealers in every town and its resale values are solid which i doubt the Voge will be.
Voge have been in the UK for a few years, dealers are well spread out and parts readily available. Rare to find one second hand, speaks volumes. The engineering quality is akin to Japanese production. You get a really good package with this brand and in a few years they will be a serious contender. In June 2024, the 900 will be available, that will be a threat to its competitors and will bring a few bikes on to the second hand market. Voge is the new Yamahondukisaki. I’m old enough to remember a spotty yoof turning up at the cafe on his shiny Honda, how we scoffed at Japcrap. Whilst we were playing yo-yo with kickstarts he was turning left at the end of the road. Move forward two years and the Japanese had taken over, British bikes were old hat. Voge are a real threat to the competition.
@@markpulling12 Thanks. One Chinese reviewer I follow thinks this bike may also be marketed as the rumoured BMW T500GS. With CFMoto winning moto2 GP ladt week that reaffirms that Chinese bokes of quality have definitely arrived.
And my quick pricing of the NX500 , adding 'some' of the extras to bring it up to 'near' the Voge spec amounted to £8,200 . And that's not including a top box and panniers. So £6,200 for the Voge package with those included as well is a steal. Loncin who own Voge also make engines for BMW bikes , so are they really going to make bad one with the DS525X ? I don't think so. Look at who makes the other parts for this bike , Nissin , Kayaba , Metzeler. Chinese are bringing in quality to the market now.
Unfortunately, here in Germany is only 500 version available and according discussions in internet, this 525 will be never imported to Germany, even in all other EU countries is available. Just now we are looking forward for DS900, which should cost 9500€.
BMW t500 engine code-ke 500 (old engine) or ke 525 (new engine) announced by 2025. Voge ds525x engine code-ke 525. Ke 500 (old engine) and ke 525 (new engine) is made by loncin china.
that is an awful lot of decently specced bike for that money and very capable it seems, the Japanese really have got to up their game and improve value for money if they aren't to be loosing massive sales, these types of bike are just what the market needs, realistic bikes for real world prices and something to be used and not stuck in a garage for 9 months of the year, whats not to love
Well, if you want the Japanese brands to lower quality ever further to reduce the ticket price then I'm sure that's what will happen in time. Sad times.
@@BikingChap obviously not looked to closely at what is currently coming out from Japan recently, expensive and certainly not what it used to be, the bike world needs these companies to kick the established brands in their jaded arses, shame you don't do as you say on your channel description really as were that the case you would admit things need to change
@@andyc750 I'm pretty up to date with what's coming out of Japan, though I don't profess to be an expert. I'd be interested in what you mean by 'shame you don't do as you say on your channel description'. Unlike the main / big review channels I'm not under pressure to say positive things about the bikes I review so I can be completely honest, other views are available of course. These Chinese brand bikes are cheaper than the Japanese bikes for a reason, the offer is certainly not the same as the Japanese brands at a knock down price. Lower prices don't automatically mean better value...
Sure, but I would go with the Voge 525X. I own a Benelli TRK502 and it's a heavy slow motorbike with a very bad display... 😂. I ditched it for the V strom1050xt but I actually think the Voge is a good compromise because of the price point.
Agreed but isn't it all relative though Buy this for £5.5 k sell for say £3k two years later BMW r1300 GS £16000 sell for £1300 to a dealership two years later Just a thought 🤔 Best wishes mark
Hi these bikes represent very good vfm ...MCN rated it well against the new honda nx ....the engine and handling...level of spec is very good I would definitely buy one myself... Best wishes mark
@@ontwo-wheels you can see how dangerous when he turns on the spot lights or whatever they are called.. everything else is in almost complete darkness and you can use the spot lights as reference so it's not the camera
@@sasham4073 not really, that's just an assumption. The foglights are not pointing far off ahead from the bike or way upwards hence not blinding for oncoming motorists. Also, the spotlights are used in certain conditions not in your every day riding.
Excellent review, I bought my last bike based on your review and was not disappointed many thanks
This is the first review of yours I've seen. Really comprehensive, I found myself watching intently. Fair play, you do a cracking job. 👍 Bike looks good value but needs more noise.
Thanks Trev really appreciate it
Cheers mark
Not really my kind of bike, but I do really like it. Lots of lovely aspects like the seat, screen, great pegs, rear rack, lovely engine. Great review as usual.
This looks really refined, thanks for the review!
What an attractive modern, well equipped bike you have shown us. Feels like a must have now! Thank you Mark🎉
Thankyou glad you enjoyed it
Best wishes mark
My friend and I went for the Benelli 702 after your review, my friend went with the green 702 x , he ordered it from Pool moto who delivered it to him on the Wirral near liverpool, fantastic service from them, I went for the black 702 which is a bit lower as I have a Dickie hip, were really pleased with the bikes as they have that bit more punch than the Cf , thanks for all your reviews , your the only guy I go to for a no nonsense accurate review 👍
Many thanks mark I appreciate that 😊
The Beneli will be slower due to it's weight...BUT THE VOGUE... PERFECTION
Loving the 'fill' indicators. Lovely bike and great value too.
Extremely well-equipped motorcycle: centre stand, tubeless spoked wheels, rack, great dash, effective screen. Looks well-finished, as well. What great value. It really makes you think that there is no need for more.
Thorough review, as ever, Mark.
Thanks nick my thoughts exactly...
Great bike for the money
Cheers mark
Read that as great rack😅, note to self read more carefully.
@@markpulling12 did I miss the fuel economy/range check.. you estimated 200mpg but.. top reviews as ever 👌🇳🇿🇳🇿🇳🇿☑️
@@Errol.C-nz hi yes I said it about 3:00 70 mpg UK so 200 mile range ;)
@@markpulling12That would be 100 miles down on the 500X’s range.
I rode a DS525X in France last October. I’d just ordered a 300 Rally from the dealer and at the same time arranged to have a new rear tyre fitted to my 2021 500X. When I turned up for the tyre change the dealer asked if I would like to try the brand new DS525 that he had just put on trade plates. It had less than 10 km on the clock. I took it out and enjoyed riding it. It is so well equipped it’s a real bargain at the price. It was hard to make any real performance comparisons with my 500X but I enjoyed riding the Voge and even managed a bit of off road riding. I then rode the hour’s ride home on the 500X. When I got home I was pleased because although I had found the DS525X really good to ride, comfortable, coming fully specced at a very good price I wasn’t tempted to trade in my Honda just yet. It’s difficult to make any subjective comparison between the two because the Voge was so new but on my ride home the Honda was simply nicer to ride. That didn’t surprise me, the 500X is the best bike I’ve ever owned and after trading in the Pan European that I had owned for nine years before it my annual mileage doubled. That says it all, it’s a great touring bike for my needs. Having said that the Voge ran it close and that’s a big positive for it. Add in the equipment level and price and I’m sure that it will be very successful in that part of the market. I would certainly recommend that anyone interested in a lower mid-range adventure touring bike to have a very close look at one.
Many thanks great comment 😁
Impressive’little’ adventure tourer Mark. Just the right size without feeling top heavy.I only hope they make it across the pond here in Canada.Thanks,
Great job as always mark your spot on looking forward to more reviews and stay safe brovo
Thanks Duane ...quite a few lined up this year
Cheers mark
Great review as always, good looking bike, fantastic value for money, what’s not to like
Always Good. Keep it up Mark.
Hi Mark, first of all let me give my overall impression on this bike review : This is the best bike review of ANY bike I've ever watched. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You take your audience through all of the thought processes when contemplating the purchase of a middleweight 'sport' tourer so well, so thoroughly, so calmly; that the only thing left to do is - go and buy a Voge 525X !!
I'm currently running a Himalayan 411 after a lifetime of bigger, more powerful bikes and I'm in the market for additional or replacement bike. The only question left in my mind is, will the Voge 525X be just a bit physically too small as I'm 6 ft and 110 kgs. But fortunately I have a test ride booked in with my local VOGE on friday so I can resolve the size issue then.
Thanks again for all the quality work you've obviously put in, to present the bike to us.
Subscribed.
PS I have been trying to get a ride on the new Himmie 452 (which is what I would really I love, I think) but over here in France no-one appears to have deliveries of them yet. What is your opinion/comparison of the two bikes, as both would do what I want done and are in the same ballpark price-wise here in France.
Hi Dave many thanks I really appreciate that...the himi 450 is slow at the moment as we speak it's being delivered in the UK ....I'll give you a full review of the Himalayan very soon ....but I think I'd prefer the voge tbh
Best wishes
Hi Mark thanks again for a super review
Nice bike Mark , again a good review . i have already 700km on my 702 . cheers Marc
Excellent review and compelling bike!
Nice review Mark.. what a great bike for the money!!!, That engine almost looks like the Honda engine... I love all the stuff you get with this bike that you would have to pay extra for, I'm gunna stick my neck out now.... If this bike isn't a massive seller in the UK i'll eat my hat! 🤪. Cheers Mark 😊
Hi Mark! Another fantastic review thank you. When it comes to good, honest, sensible reviews its you and the Missenden flyer i trust. Thank you
Many thanks much appreciated
Best wishes mark
As in a lot of the other comments Mark, a fantastic review! you've sold me on this bike, I want one!! I think it looks fantastic, unbelievable just what you get for your money, an extra £500 over the standard bike for a complete luggage set, and it looks to be aluminium? Hmm . . my local dealer in Hinckley has these bikes in stock . . . Yes dear it makes perfect sense for me to have two bikes . . . no really 🤔😅
Many thanks Dennis 😄
Looks a great bike for the price 🎉 fab review as always mark ‼️ x😊
Thanks Martine....x
Another excellent and comprehensive appraisal. These really do look good and, visually, is very much like the CFMoto 800MT. Both offer fantastic value. These negative perceptions of Chinese bikes will change in time, I'm sure. After all, Japanese bikes of the 60s had a similar welcome.
Good work, Mark. 👍
Many thanks mark...I appreciate the feedback...yes the Chinese brands and really coming out with some good bikes now best wishes
Wow, fabulous review! I really appreciate that you haven’t been biased by this being a Chinese machine, as other reviews I’ve seen on here do. Well done Mark!
My daily ride is a Harley Ultra Limited and I am about to get a second ride because while I love the Harley, it is not the most practical machine. I was thinking of buying a NX500 but now I’ve seen your review, I’m going to give the Voge a try. After all, I want the best motorcycle I can afford and have no reason to be more loyal to the Japanese than the Chinese.
Thanks Mark.
Thanks Lee no I really like these Chinese bikes and thinking about it most jap machines are made elsewhere now anyway.... Thailand?
:) :)
Best wishes
@@markpulling12 Can you point me at a review where you DIDN'T like the bike?
I absolutely believe that the Chinese can make a bike or car to any quality point you want to specify for a budget. The only reasons I wouldn't buy one are
1. Dealership networks are thin on the ground and small-time so there is a worry about warranty work and getting parts.
2. The perception about Chinese bikes needs to change in the general public.
This situation is exactly where we were with Japanese cars and bikes in the 1970s. While we can find that ignorance amusing, at this point in time it means that Chinese bikes will depreciate hard or even be unsellable on the used market.
@@zootius Very well put.
@@zootiusexactly what us with a brain are thinking. I've just looked at all the comments on the 452 Himmy review - blah blah blah CFMoto....but which bike would you want to use in the REAL adventure world where you ride across continents? Oh, that would be the Himmy then 😉
Another good bike review by you, and another good bike from China, they seem to be going from strength to strength👍
Well mark that bike got me... written alover it why? Value ..well equipped ... light and fast enough fairly simple....quality tyres... (just bought same for my vstrom).and the icing on the the cake my name intials on side DS😂😂😂 even your review bike reg DSX.....😂😂 I've had Cfmoto 650 in the past no issues at all...cheers mark...
Great bike for its price. Will definitely look into this bike on my next purchase next month. 😊
Very nice looking bike with a good spec and good price, only thing missing is heated grips, which is a shame. A back to back review of this bike with the CFMoto 450MT would be really useful😄
Thank you for another well done review Mark. Although these motorcycles will never show up in the states. I can see why. Our Honda dealer has CF Moto in stock, and nobody seems to want to buy them. I could be wrong though. All in all, the motorcycle looks very good and capable.
Thanks Karl ....it's been slow but these bikes are getting popular in the UK ..now .. benelli..voge .. cfmoto etc are getting interest now
Cheers mark
@@markpulling12agreed. But as a salesman of 44 years, there's a world between interest and actual sales.
Excellent bike, they could have offered storage in the fairing bodywork. Looks like a lot of space behind the plastic. Would be nice see a waterproof, lockable cubbies with a power outlet to charge the phone, keep gloves or camera etc.
Like them or not, It's getting harder to ignore the Chinese brands,. I'm beginning to give one or two models serious thought. Great review as always Mark, really nice to see you give exposure to the lesser known manufacturers.
Many thanks the Chinese makes are getting good now ....they probably sell more than the jap models now
Cheers mark
Usual top review. LCD screen didn't seem that clear in daytime riding though that could just be your GoPro. Given the impressive level of equipment I'm surprised it's not TFT.
Hi Mark. Excellent review, I found your explanation and analysis of the bikes’ features to be very thorough. Additional elements I would have found useful would be some of the more practical features, such as how the rear suspension is adjusted - is there a remote for the preload or do you have to manually adjust with a C spanner, and how easy is it to get at; where is the oil fill and drain and the filter and how accessible are they for home maintenance; does it come with a toolkit and what’s inside it; just some thoughts I had after watching. It would be great to see a review of all these different value for money options and a comparison of where they are similar and where they differ. Many thanks, Richard from Cornwall.
Thanks for the feedback Richard....yes c spanner for rear shock...and oil fill and drain in the usual place
Best wishes mark
G'day Mark, good review, if your in the marker for an adventure Bike these days your spoilt for choice, the bike feature is one of the cheapest but still has the features of a more expensive brand, each too their own but money is money and this bike would do me, cheers mate, Neil 🤠.
Thanks Neil ....yes I'd go for one of these ...I'd be very happy with it
Great bike cheers mark
I do like this style of bike, and I really do like the price. A very appealing machine for everyday use....
P.S. Great to see the New Forest and Poole Harbour...Can't wait for 'bike-night' on summer Tuesday's at the quayside...
Thanks Julian ....me too at the quay ... cheers mark
love that color scheme and looks great value for the price .
Another wonderful review.
The burning question is "would you buy one with your own money?"
I've had a break from riding for a few years & am looking to get back into commuting & UK bike touring; your opinion would be greatly valued!
Hi Paul most definitely....I had a trk502 a couple of years ago and it was perfect...ima fan of these bikes
Cheers mark
This is a nice, long, comprehensive review. Question, the screen looked quite dim when you were riding, is it like that in person or is it brighter?
If you were to choose between this or a cf moto 450mt, himalayan 450 and an nx500, which would you choose and why?
Keep up the good work and God bless. 👍🏿
Hi no the screen is bright enough...it's just a bit reflective
Id go for the cfmoto it wipes the floor,:). Value performance the engine is amazing...off road abilities...wind protection
Best wishes
Thanks Mark ✌🏻😊
Thanks for the great review from morocco. This or benelli 702 ? I am a bit undecided..Did you feel the extra 200c ?
Hi yes the benelli definitely feels stronger ....but this voge still rides just as well....I'd go with the voge just felt perfect for me
Best wishes mark
Id have that over the Honda 500X anyday...Nice one Mark 🙂
Great review, super impressive bike. I don't think you mentioned the service interval. Also I believe you left it in sport mode for that 70 mpg.
Hi yes sport /Eco made no noticeable difference...bit of a gimmick
Service intervals...I'm guessing are the same as the ac525x which is 6000km/4000 km
Cheers mark
Good review mark, my only concern with this bike is the reflection on LCD display, did this bother you?
I did notice that ....buy it didn't annoy me and I quickly got used to it
Cheers mark
I sold a much bigger and heavier bike in February and have been looking for an affordable, lighter ADV and seem to have found it. I ordered one of these earlier today without the luggage as I’d never use it. I ride mostly on my own these days so the performance is sufficient and the weight should be more manageable for me. Should arrive late April in time for some better weather hopefully, thanks Mark 🙄
Thanks Lester great choice 😁
@@markpulling12Apparently the Asian market model puts out 55hp but has been restricted down to 47 for Europe A2 compliance so room for some fettling 👍
Squinting through one eye sideways on looked like nc750. Love reviews of these left choice bikes. Still couldnt part with cash though. Mainly cos dealership woes
Nice to see a center stand for once, they have become a rarity on modern motorcycles, so thumbs up to Voge for that. Golden rims are a strange choice for an adventure bike, not my taste and those on the Voge are impossible to ignore, I was surprised that they didn't glow in the dark!
and it's got a KEY, brilliant, hopefully this will be retained on the production models... but what about Dealers and Servicing etc
Hi in the UK there will be approximately 30 or so dealers up and down the country....voge are popular so parts through Moto GB should be fine
Cheers mark
Love it but not the price cuz for the almost same ammount I can buy QJMOTOR SVT 650X here in my country. Same build quality with more hp and torque. Ofc different look. If this is a A2 licence then I can understand :). Great looking bike btw. Also that tft looking dark on a sunny day and that is a complaint.
Do you know the length of warranty/miles and service intervals…cheers 👌
I wanted to like this bike but when I sat on it I felt like it was just entirely too big with poor visibility over the front - this is no doubt due to me being 5’6”. These are really cheap second hand but alas it’s not for me. Great review as always!!
Hello Mark, thanks for another great review....😀how would your vote be, comparing it to the Benelli 502x?
Hi it's s close match ...but the voge with it's higher level of spec wins for me
Cheers mark
Great review Mark, looking at NX500 as my first big bike, but this one has got me wondering which one to choose. Do you have any thoughts? Thanks
Hi Andrea the voge is very good... amazing spec for the money...MCN rated it very highly against the nx500
Personally I'd go for the voge because I found it so comfortable
Try them both out of you can
Best wishes mark
@markpulling12 Thanks for replying, myself, and my partner look forward to your bike reviews as we are starting our bike journey 😀, we both sat on the NX500, and now definitely excited about sitting on the Voge 👌
Hi Mark, Awesome review. I am trying to decide between the Voge DS525X and the Honda NC750X. have watched both your reviews but still undecided. Is there anything that splits them apart for you, and which of the two would you buy for touring? Thanks. Leon
Hi Leon the 750 would definitely be the best for touring with it's low revving 750 engine...alot more relaxed
The 500s are still ok but a bit buzzier
The nx500 is brilliant as well 😄
Cheers mark
@@markpulling12 Thanks thats great. I'm trying to decide because the spec of the Voge is huge value for money. I would only get a 2021 Honda for the same money as the Voge new. Is the Voge going to be suitable for two hours on a motorway?
So, I have done with this bike almost 6000 kilometers (3800 miles). Here in Greece brand new it costs 5995€.
You get a lot of bike for your money.
- Very good sitting position for short to medium height riders, that gets best when adding Bar Risers (tall riders will get a bit cramped due to the position of the footrests)
- The bike is very nimble through traffic, excellent roller coaster on twisties and very comfortable on highways.
- Front and Rear Suspensions work very good, although the Front is a bit soft and dives under heavy braking
-Front Brakes are very good and Back Brake is just adequate (both Nissin) . Brake pumps are good, but you need better Brake Pads in order to get the best Braking possible.
- The Clutch is ridiculously light and the gear changing, despite being a bit clunky and noisy, they are very accurate.
- The heat from the engine is very tolerable and once it gets 100°C on very hot days, the Fan comes on and instantly drops it.
- The Fuel Consumption is generally good, but it is mostly determined by your right wrist. If you go bananas, you can see 5.5 litres per 100 kilometres (51 MPG), but most of the times you are at around 4.5/100 kms (63 MPG). Check out my Fuel Ups : www.fuelly.com/motorcycle/voge/_525dsx/2023/georgecbf125/1233779
- ABS and Traction Control work very well. Especially the TCS, once it detects that you rode fast over a big pothole, it immediately cuts the power for safer passage over that.
- Metzeler Tourance have really good grip and are A-MA-ZI-NG on wet surfaces, but they need some time to get warm and they don't provide the best feedback from the road.
- Stock Windshield is rubbish, just get a bigger one from AliExpress (a 47cm would be enough if you are less than 1.80m in height).
- Stock Seat is OK for doing your in-town rides, but if you plan on sitting for more than 45 minutes, you will eventually gets a sore butt. The width is good, but lacks padding, so go to an Upholstery store and put some more foam.
- Stock Chain is mediocre quality, but it does the job.
- The Gearing is a bit short. The 1st Gear is almost non existent and after 80-85 kph (50-55 mph) you feel that you must put 6th. So, I changed from a 15T Front Sprocket to a 16T and now the 1st Gear is usable, you put the 6th only when you want to cruise (I now get 140 kph at 6000 RPMs) , BUT I lost the instant "boom" from the start and around 20 kph from Top Speed.
- There is an annoying buzz at 4000 RPMs. This is due to the fact that the bike has to adapt to the Euro5 and A2 Regulations, because it naturally produces 54-55 HP and now it has 48 HP (it has 3 Catalysts).
- The LCD Screen is nice, but not very visible under direct sunlight
- LED headlights and the standard Fog Lights provide fantastic lighting in the dark
All in all, don't be afraid to buy it. It is a very versatile and fun bike to ride. The Honda NX500 costs 2000€ more and it is short 1,000-1,200€ on equipment, so the Voge seems fantastic value
Many thanks great comment 😁💯
γεια σου φιλε.μπραβο για την αναλυση σου!για τοσο μεγαλη μηχανη 47 ιπποι δεν ειναι πολυ λιγοι?εγω τωρα xt600 οδηγαω,και θα παρω καινουρια μηχανη,μαρεσει αυτο,αλλα θελω περισσοτερο γκαζι απτο XT,που ειναι στους 40 ιππουσ και 5 κιλα ροπη.δηλαδη αν εχεις και δευτερο ατομο,ποση ωρα κανει να πιασει τα 140 να κανεις μια προσπεραση ας πουμε?γιαυτο ισως παω για το trk702,μπορει και για το 900ds.θα δουμε,θα παω στην εκθεση σε δυο βδομαδες να τα δω απο κοντα.
@@thodoris3790 Μια χαρά τα πιάνει τα 140 ακομα και δικαβαλο. Το μηχανάκι δεν είναι ασθενικο όπως ενα CB500X, αλλά έχει νεύρο και δύναμη,γιατί κανονικά είναι παραπάνω απο 48 αλογα. Και ολα αυτά τα κάνει με πολύ καλή κατανάλωση καυσίμου. Το TRK702 είναι παρα πολύ βαρύ και κάτω απο 5,5/100 δε θα δεις ποτέ. Το 900DS είναι μια τελείως διαφορετική κατηγορία
@@thodoris3790 Έχω 6000 χλμ χωρίς κανένα θέμα. Κατανάλωση μεσα στην πόλη με γρήγορο ρυθμό στα 4,3/100. Εκτός πόλης με γρήγορο ρυθμό 4-4,1/100. Εαν πας νορμαλ χωρίς απότομα ανοίγματα, είσαι στο 3,5-3,7/100. Ολες οι μετρήσεις στην αντλια.
Είναι καλο μηχανάκι. Στρίβει παρα πολύ καλά, έχει ωραία καβάλα, καλα φρενάκια, καλο τραβηγμα, πολύ ελαστικότητα έχει το μοτέρ, η θερμοκρασία που βγάζει δε σε ενοχλεί.
Ουσιαστικά, οι μόνες αλλαγές που χρειάζεται να κάνει κάποιος είναι μια μεγαλύτερη ζελατίνα ή ενα φρυδακι , να προσθέσει λίγο αφρώδες στη σελα και να βαλει ενα φίλτρο ελευθέρας, για να ξεμπουκωσει. Συνολο όλα αυτά 80€.
How do you put the rear fog light on. 🤔🤔🤔
Hi Mark. I enjoy your valuable input and feedback. Can you put a hand on a Voge SR4 scooter? Cheers.
Hi motogb are listing a sr1 but not the sr4 yet ....if Poole Moto get one in the future I'll definitely review it
Best wishes mark
Very satisfied with the bike, I have already done 5000 km with it including long trips. I equipped it with higher windscreen and heated grips. Best buy. Too speed so far 186km.
That means it can comfortably cruise around 140km/h, right?
@@pinecreek607 Yes.
Really nice looking bike with loads on it, but I think for touring, cruise control is a must even if an option at purchase. Think this is the only thing that will hinder it for touring. Great bike for commuting and ride outs though.
So is this not available in usa.. I cant find a dealer anywhere.
looks a right machine for the money
I’m a Brit living in Russia . I really miss my bike , I’ve looked on line and Voge have a number of dealers here and prices are similar to UK, other brands are way more expensive. The advertised hp is up on Europe’s at 54.9 due to A2 licence Regs I guess. It’s an itch that ai may have to scratch
hi on some of the review i have seen on the voge ds525x they are saying it is very vibe in bars the seat and pegs and even more after a few miles on the bike ,
Hi colin ..there are a few vibes...nothing too bad but totally normal for a twin ...its no worse than the cb500x honda ....on the whole for general riding i found it to be a great engine cheers mark
Hi Mark i have the benelli trk 502x ,nothing but smiles per mile . But call me nieve, but found out today that Citroën, volvo ,ford ,bmw , the list goes on all mostly made in China. the prices will shoot up when people, realise how good they are
Thanks Ray yes most things are made in china these days loads of cars are too ...as you say
Best wishes mark
It looks like a gs with the colour scheme which is nice my question is trk or this ?
I prefer the voge it's lighter ...and the engine is less buzzy at speed
Cheers mark
Hi Mark have had a chance to do review on a Moto Morini xcape 650 , ? Regards Pat
No sorry pat ....I'll send them an email
Best wishes mark
Over 50 years of riding my style and brand of bike has changed many times, now its the change to an "adv bike". At 64 I've always been put off by the too top heavyness of this style, but this looks like it's just what I'm looking for. Personally I would prefer cruise over traction control 😮
Great bike nice review! This or the Benelli 702x ?
Hi if you need the extra power then definitely the benelli but overall I preferred the voge ....very well put together...good price ... great spec and suspension
Cheers mark
@@markpulling12 I don’t need the extra power! You showed it’s plenty power enough! I just wondered how it be on motorway? And you showed it goes well ! Thanks
Thanks John yes I'd go for the voge ....it's really good 😊
Cheers mark
Any chance of a review of the Voge DS900X?
Hi yes definitely...but not available here in the UK yet ... probably another month or so
Cheers mark
have the new voge ds535x for a few days now ,one helll of abike for price,
Do you know the length of warranty/miles and service intervals…cheers Mark
Hi ....I'm assuming it's the same as the ac525x which was 6000 km/4000 miles when I reviewed it six months ago
Cheers mark
As an owner of the (amazing) Voge 300 Rally, I was looking forward to this as something that would be better for distance but still off road oriented. Sadly though, this one seems to follow the herd with small wheels and other more road biased bits. (footrests for one).
On the brighter side though. The new CF Moto 450MT (18" 21" wheels) is coming soon which should better suit my needs. (I've already got a deposit down).
The Voge certainly looks like a nice bike and great value but can't help wondering if it's just another 500 adventure bike that's not entirely suited to adventure?
Hi I'm looking forward to the CF,Moto 450 mt ...that's going to give the new Himalayan some competition
Cheers mark
I relate totally to what you say. It's my opinion that so many people buy these adventure bikes but never even see a rough lane, let alone a trail
Good review as always ❤❤❤ p.s. I’m 5’7 same with you😂😂😂 you are my good referencing 😂😂😂
All good now.
Thanks Simon ...it's still processing checking etc cheers mark
A lot of bike for the money, no doubt. But I feel that you would probably have to ride it until it drops. I can’t imagine that it’ll hold a good resale value.
Hi sir good day how are you? Have you tried the cf moto 450mt? What your thoughts and which those bikes will you recommed for first big adv bike owner? Thank you Sir and Stay Safe.
Hi the cfmoto 450 isn't here in the UK yet .... should be soon ... looking forward to reviewing it
Best wishes mark
@@markpulling12 thank you sir. stay safe.
looks great and price is superb its just to slow and i am not a speedster i rode the benelli trk502 the same like a maxi scooter the speed for overtaking riding with two up maybe the cfmoto 800mt has the power but at that price there is the vstrom i own a yamaha fjr1300 so maybe thats the problem
Hi Mark
Can you test the new cf moto 450nk?
Thanks
Most definitely Poole Moto are getting them soon
Best wishes mark
@@markpulling12 please check the fuel consumption as wel because one says 4L The other says 5.5L...I trust your word thank you Mark
It looks a good bike at a good price but would i go for it before a CB or NX 500, no i wouldn't. The Honda speaks for itself quality wise, there's dealers in every town and its resale values are solid which i doubt the Voge will be.
I think exactly the same.
Voge have been in the UK for a few years, dealers are well spread out and parts readily available. Rare to find one second hand, speaks volumes. The engineering quality is akin to Japanese production. You get a really good package with this brand and in a few years they will be a serious contender. In June 2024, the 900 will be available, that will be a threat to its competitors and will bring a few bikes on to the second hand market.
Voge is the new Yamahondukisaki. I’m old enough to remember a spotty yoof turning up at the cafe on his shiny Honda, how we scoffed at Japcrap. Whilst we were playing yo-yo with kickstarts he was turning left at the end of the road. Move forward two years and the Japanese had taken over, British bikes were old hat.
Voge are a real threat to the competition.
206kg wet? That's very good coz Chinese bikes have always had a bit of a weight problem up to this point (case in point, the TRK502).
Thanks ...it's alot lighter than the trk 502 and feels it too
Best wishes mark
BE INTERESTING TO COMPARE THIS WITH THE NEW CF MOTO 450 MT MARK
Yes ...can't wait to try one of those :)
Is this engine the same as that in the Benelli 502 which seems very reliable.
No it's a different engine...made by loncin ...they make engines for some BMW bikes
Cheers mark
@@markpulling12 Thanks. One Chinese reviewer I follow thinks this bike may also be marketed as the rumoured BMW T500GS. With CFMoto winning moto2 GP ladt week that reaffirms that Chinese bokes of quality have definitely arrived.
Is it a longer wheel base than a CB500x?
No it's much the same within 5 mm :)
Cheers mark
who is a better bargain for a beginner, the Honda CB500x or the VOGE 525 ?
I prefer the voge and I think I rides better best wishes mark
And my quick pricing of the NX500 , adding 'some' of the extras to bring it up to 'near' the Voge spec amounted to £8,200 . And that's not including a top box and panniers. So £6,200 for the Voge package with those included as well is a steal. Loncin who own Voge also make engines for BMW bikes , so are they really going to make bad one with the DS525X ? I don't think so. Look at who makes the other parts for this bike , Nissin , Kayaba , Metzeler.
Chinese are bringing in quality to the market now.
Does it have heated grips?
No sadly not but a set of Oxford grips are only like £50
Cheers mark
The Chinese are such genuine people...
- Nobody, ever.
hi mark im thinking of buy this buy , is worth it is a good 500cc bike to buy,
Yes definitely it's a great bike
I would buy one myself
Best wishes mark
@@markpulling12 thanks for that, have new bike coming next month, in the blue,
The "X" would denote its offroad capable , so is it?
Yes definitely 😁💯
Unfortunately, here in Germany is only 500 version available and according discussions in internet, this 525 will be never imported to Germany, even in all other EU countries is available. Just now we are looking forward for DS900, which should cost 9500€.
Thanks I'm looking forward to the 900 version too here in the UK
Regards mark
No PCP available though and £169 per month...
Would you buy one as your only Bike?
Oh yes most definitely....it's a great all rounder
Cheers mark
A serious competitor for NX500, and this part of the market with the CF Moto 450MT and new Himalayan is looking good.
How many kgs
Hi I do say at the beginning but it's 206 kg wet
Best wishes mark
BMW t500 engine code-ke 500 (old engine) or ke 525 (new engine) announced by 2025.
Voge ds525x engine code-ke 525.
Ke 500 (old engine) and ke 525 (new engine) is made by loncin china.
Ke-500 hp is 47
Ke-525 hp is 54
that is an awful lot of decently specced bike for that money and very capable it seems, the Japanese really have got to up their game and improve value for money if they aren't to be loosing massive sales, these types of bike are just what the market needs, realistic bikes for real world prices and something to be used and not stuck in a garage for 9 months of the year, whats not to love
Well, if you want the Japanese brands to lower quality ever further to reduce the ticket price then I'm sure that's what will happen in time. Sad times.
@@BikingChap obviously not looked to closely at what is currently coming out from Japan recently, expensive and certainly not what it used to be, the bike world needs these companies to kick the established brands in their jaded arses, shame you don't do as you say on your channel description really as were that the case you would admit things need to change
@@andyc750 I'm pretty up to date with what's coming out of Japan, though I don't profess to be an expert. I'd be interested in what you mean by 'shame you don't do as you say on your channel description'. Unlike the main / big review channels I'm not under pressure to say positive things about the bikes I review so I can be completely honest, other views are available of course.
These Chinese brand bikes are cheaper than the Japanese bikes for a reason, the offer is certainly not the same as the Japanese brands at a knock down price. Lower prices don't automatically mean better value...
Could be me but I've got no audio.
Give it a few minutes...it's just uploading...I've had that issue before
This or NX500?
Tbh I'd get the voge ....it rides so well ...I'd be more than happy with it
Cheers mark
Looks good and amazingly well spec
@@markpulling12I think the engine is much much better than Honda 500x😅😅😅 no good torque for 500x
What about strong vibration about 6k rpm, owners of the DS500 are complaining a lot, because it's just on 100km/h?
@@tommino8970 this one is much smoother....MCN reviewed it and thought the same cheers mark
Looks like a Benneli 502x
Sure, but I would go with the Voge 525X. I own a Benelli TRK502 and it's a heavy slow motorbike with a very bad display... 😂. I ditched it for the V strom1050xt but I actually think the Voge is a good compromise because of the price point.
Chinese so expect dramatic resale drop.
Agreed but isn't it all relative though
Buy this for £5.5 k sell for say £3k two years later
BMW r1300 GS £16000 sell for £1300 to a dealership two years later
Just a thought 🤔
Best wishes mark
Sorry but i feel like this isn't honest opinion.
No bike is perfect and you say only positive things, it's just not realistic
Hi these bikes represent very good vfm ...MCN rated it well against the new honda nx ....the engine and handling...level of spec is very good
I would definitely buy one myself...
Best wishes mark
that must be the worst display i've ever seen. the lights are just dangerous. how is that even legal? but the bike looks really nice.
How dangerous are the lights? 😅....
@@ontwo-wheels you can see how dangerous when he turns on the spot lights or whatever they are called.. everything else is in almost complete darkness and you can use the spot lights as reference so it's not the camera
@@sasham4073 not really, that's just an assumption. The foglights are not pointing far off ahead from the bike or way upwards hence not blinding for oncoming motorists. Also, the spotlights are used in certain conditions not in your every day riding.
Dash looks crap