Thank you for watching! I hope you found out something you didn't know about the differences between the different teams. Which team do you prefer in Wipeout HD/Fury and why?
I once messed with the mass stats in Pure, thinking it would make them more or less resistant to slowdown from weapons, a la the first WipEout. All it did was make the ships unflyable.
How interesting :) It makes at least a bit of sense that unexpected things happen when you fiddle with the physics attribute. After speaking with developers it has become clear that the physics used in anti gravity racing game isn't the same as the ones in real life.
I constantly hear top Wipeout players say that the Fury ships don't make the HD ships obsolete yet everything I see on the stat sheet, tier lists, and even in game says otherwise. They do feel subtly different, but really if you're playing to set good times or win races I really don't see a reason to pick HD ships over Fury ships, which is a shame because I think most of the Fury ships don't look as cool. Most of them look like black frames with thin panels layered over them. The bodywork on the HD ships are just better (except for EG-X, Auricom, and Mirage, I think their Fury ships look better).
I agree with you about the ship design regarding the Fury ships. They look cool overall but also not as "clean" as the HD ships. And I know what you're talking about regarding the performance difference too. The only options really are that the stats in the spread sheet are innaccurate and there are more stuff going on under the hood but it's also possible that we are fooled by other things when playing the Fury ships. With that I mean camera angle, movement graphics, size of the 3D-model and so on that fool us into thinking they handle different than they actually do. Perhaps we'll never get this question answered :)
This is such an in-depth look at the WipEout Omega Collection, thanks Erik, I wouldn't have missed most of the information presented here otherwise. You rock :)
Thanks a lot! I guessed most people would have missed it. I really hope the video will give players a bit more insight in the differences of the ships, thanks a lot for checking it out!
Thanks a lot! According to Bigsnake's original post on Wipeout Zone, the numbers are taken directly from a file from the actual game so none of the stats are actually measured.
Auricom looks like a brick and it fly like one 😅 Feisar, Icaras, Harimau are my teams. Harimau feels closer to Feisar in terms of Handling. Assegai is more like AG System. But this is just my personal opinion.
Your assessment make a lot of sense. Both Feisar and Harimau have different handling stats but the same level of ground grip. Assegai and AG Systems both have the same handling and ground grip stat so your analysis is definitely on point :)
It’s a shame that there’s not much information regarding Tigron/Van Uber. Through lots of play testing and theorycrafting, Van Uber should technically be the best ship on phantom because it’s essentially a better Fiesar (among other factors too). Tigron also feels like an exact copy and paste of Pirhana. Very informative video though, glad you could spread insight on an unknown topic like this :)
Yes, I didn't talk much about Van Uber and Tigron due to lack of information. If the regular stats are anything to go by, both of them should be top tier but I don't see any of them being used that much in online play or in leaderboards. However, I guess that a great player like yourself is more than capable of making an accurate assessment of the teams. Thanks a lot for your comment!
didn't know that either but it makes sense too :) I didn't touch on it in this video but there actually is a hidden stat that is suspected to be the increased shield value that your ship has on the Novice difficulty.
Well I have played lots of racing games in my life and one thing for sure is that most of them has these hidden stats in there programmed, not sure why are never revealed but I suspect is for not bore the player with stats that probably will not have too much impact in the end since is an Arcade racing game (contrary to a simulation racing game like Forza, Gran Turismo, Assetto Corsa or even in bikes games like MotoGP or Tourist Trophy in which the stats does matter a lot) but still is nice to see that has them. In my case I have to admit that I'm the type of player of: "Hey look at that ship, it looks cool!, is my main ship now!" 😂. And I did it, my 2 main ships are Feisar and A-G System, lol!.
I have played the Ride games and there, stat tweaking is definitely a thing. I think you're right in that a lot of stats isn't what people playing arcade racers want to see. In Wipeout, there controls has a lot of depth without being too complex but I think most people do what you do and pick the ships they think look the coolest :)
Great question! I probably wasn't clear about that in the video. According to the hidden stats, all ships have the exact same hit box. It's fun to see how many differences players experienced between the different ships without the differences actually being there. At least not according to the game's hidden stats.
Thank you for watching! I hope you found out something you didn't know about the differences between the different teams. Which team do you prefer in Wipeout HD/Fury and why?
I once messed with the mass stats in Pure, thinking it would make them more or less resistant to slowdown from weapons, a la the first WipEout.
All it did was make the ships unflyable.
How interesting :) It makes at least a bit of sense that unexpected things happen when you fiddle with the physics attribute. After speaking with developers it has become clear that the physics used in anti gravity racing game isn't the same as the ones in real life.
I constantly hear top Wipeout players say that the Fury ships don't make the HD ships obsolete yet everything I see on the stat sheet, tier lists, and even in game says otherwise. They do feel subtly different, but really if you're playing to set good times or win races I really don't see a reason to pick HD ships over Fury ships, which is a shame because I think most of the Fury ships don't look as cool. Most of them look like black frames with thin panels layered over them. The bodywork on the HD ships are just better (except for EG-X, Auricom, and Mirage, I think their Fury ships look better).
I agree with you about the ship design regarding the Fury ships. They look cool overall but also not as "clean" as the HD ships. And I know what you're talking about regarding the performance difference too. The only options really are that the stats in the spread sheet are innaccurate and there are more stuff going on under the hood but it's also possible that we are fooled by other things when playing the Fury ships. With that I mean camera angle, movement graphics, size of the 3D-model and so on that fool us into thinking they handle different than they actually do. Perhaps we'll never get this question answered :)
This is such an in-depth look at the WipEout Omega Collection, thanks Erik, I wouldn't have missed most of the information presented here otherwise. You rock :)
Thanks a lot! I guessed most people would have missed it. I really hope the video will give players a bit more insight in the differences of the ships, thanks a lot for checking it out!
Very interesting behind the scenes look, curious how these were measured too. Great as always
Thanks a lot! According to Bigsnake's original post on Wipeout Zone, the numbers are taken directly from a file from the actual game so none of the stats are actually measured.
Auricom looks like a brick and it fly like one 😅
Feisar, Icaras, Harimau are my teams.
Harimau feels closer to Feisar in terms of Handling.
Assegai is more like AG System. But this is just my personal opinion.
Your assessment make a lot of sense. Both Feisar and Harimau have different handling stats but the same level of ground grip. Assegai and AG Systems both have the same handling and ground grip stat so your analysis is definitely on point :)
Amazing inside video! More of these please!
Thanks a lot! I'll definitely try to make more in-depth videos like this one, thanks a lot for the feedback.
Very informative video.
Thanks a lot, glad you liked the video and thank you for checking it out!
It’s a shame that there’s not much information regarding Tigron/Van Uber. Through lots of play testing and theorycrafting, Van Uber should technically be the best ship on phantom because it’s essentially a better Fiesar (among other factors too). Tigron also feels like an exact copy and paste of Pirhana. Very informative video though, glad you could spread insight on an unknown topic like this :)
Yes, I didn't talk much about Van Uber and Tigron due to lack of information. If the regular stats are anything to go by, both of them should be top tier but I don't see any of them being used that much in online play or in leaderboards. However, I guess that a great player like yourself is more than capable of making an accurate assessment of the teams. Thanks a lot for your comment!
Fun fact: In WipEout Pulse, your shields are actually stronger (in Singleplayer) on Easy difficulty.
didn't know that either but it makes sense too :) I didn't touch on it in this video but there actually is a hidden stat that is suspected to be the increased shield value that your ship has on the Novice difficulty.
Well I have played lots of racing games in my life and one thing for sure is that most of them has these hidden stats in there programmed, not sure why are never revealed but I suspect is for not bore the player with stats that probably will not have too much impact in the end since is an Arcade racing game (contrary to a simulation racing game like Forza, Gran Turismo, Assetto Corsa or even in bikes games like MotoGP or Tourist Trophy in which the stats does matter a lot) but still is nice to see that has them.
In my case I have to admit that I'm the type of player of: "Hey look at that ship, it looks cool!, is my main ship now!" 😂.
And I did it, my 2 main ships are Feisar and A-G System, lol!.
I have played the Ride games and there, stat tweaking is definitely a thing. I think you're right in that a lot of stats isn't what people playing arcade racers want to see. In Wipeout, there controls has a lot of depth without being too complex but I think most people do what you do and pick the ships they think look the coolest :)
Out of curiosity, is the hitbox different for each ship type?
Great question! I probably wasn't clear about that in the video. According to the hidden stats, all ships have the exact same hit box. It's fun to see how many differences players experienced between the different ships without the differences actually being there. At least not according to the game's hidden stats.