imo red dead 2 is rockstar's last master piece. i got no confidence if there will be a red dead 3 and gta 6 will put a bigger focus on mp and shark cards than the story.
@@mariguana7918 Well, Dutch is the only one who cares so much about loyalty and muneh. Saying that he's afraid to die would mean that he's not willing to fully commit to Dutch's grand plan hence disloyalty in Dutch's eyes.
I think they’re fine. Charles is in Canada, Sadie is in South America, and the rest were never really involved in any of the major stick ups the gang did
The only person among that list that it said to be still at large at least in one of the games newspaper is Charles. So at the time of RDR1 the members still at large are Bill, Javier, Dutch, and Charles. I would say charles is safe in Canada, but they did send John into Mexico to capture Javier so you never know.
The newspapers add Charles to the list of the known members left. Meaning they probably ignored Sadie's involvement. Besides, if the government really wanted those assholes dead they would've sent Marston on their trail.
Kieran is also innocent. His backstory is really harsh. Kieran is probably the saddest character known to gaming history. There are others but Kieran is just the saddest dying a miserable death while being treated miserably.
When I had a conversation with Tilley and Arthur said he was killing innocent people and she didn’t know why, I was, bruh they shot at you for accidentally riding your horse into them so you shot back
Me : Passing some strangers camp Stranger : You ain't supposed to be here Me : *Pressing defuse* Stranger : *Pulls out gun* Me : *Spamming defuse* Stranger : *Shoots* Me : The hell is wrong with you *shoots* Stranger : *Dies* Honor : Your a bad man *Honor goes down* Me : HE SHOT FIRST!!!!
I wish more videogame characters talked like this. Just talking about how they feel about themselves, the world they inhabit, their past, or even just how they’re feeling over what’s happened so far in the story. I know it’s small details at the end of the day but seeing Arthur talk like this made him feel real to me. Especially the conversation he can have with the nun.
It'd fit perfectly in GTA IV because Niko is conflicted about his life throughout the game much like Arthur, he has bad memories of the war, and he wishes he wasn't stuck with working as a hitman Like imagine being able to vent to Roman through the phone after going on a 6-star rampage
@@juliosalazar6558 Yep. If you make the Blackwater massacre look like a joke or kill tons of animals without skinning them, Arthur and Mary will talk about. There's many ways the session can go, and it's infinity way more in depth than GTA V's sessions
When I got that first conversation Arthur just comments, "I keep killing animals, pointlessly." In my defense the only animals I "pointlessly" killed were ones that accidentally got run down by my horse. I even collected them.
Yeah these conversations only pop up when your wilding outside of camp and bringing heat on yourself. Even if u have the slightest misunderstanding in one of the towns u have these conversations and it makes it seem like Arthur is a demonic person.
Mary Beth really cared for Arthur and was definitely the most innocent one in the gang except for Jack but I mean amongst the adults, I always think despite the age gap between them both they're a great match shame Rockstar didn't allow for Arthur to get involved with others but in some ways that makes the game better, I was late in playing red dead redemption 2 but it's definitely one of my all time favourite games now and Arthur Morgan is one of the best game characters I've seen/played
arthur talking with tilly video titled *arthur's private conversation's* *JohN MArstOn IS SittINg RIgHt THeRe HelLOoooooOoOoOooOOoOoOOO HEs RIghT theRE*
This is why I could never bear getting the low-honor ending for Arthur. Sure, it's fun in the moment to cause total mayhem. But then, he has moments like these, and you can see how much Arthur hurts when he knows he's not being good. You can make Arthur do bad things, but you CAN'T make him into a bad man. That's why I feel like I'm disrespecting Arthur and going against his own will when I make him act like an asshole. That's not the kind of person he wants to be, even if the player chooses to make him that way.
I would argue the low-honor ending isn't Arthur being a bad man. To the very end, he's trying to convince Dutch to see sense, even when he's got a knife in his chest.
It's possible to not disrespect Arthur because what I always do is start off as a greedy, low honor psychopath, and then I redeem myself and get max honor once Arthur becomes sick. Really nails the "Redemption" part of the title
I love how the conversations are different depending on what you're up to. When I spoke to Karen he told her he was killing a bunch of animals for no reason. I was collecting pelts to sell to the trapper at the time so any and every perfect pelted animal that crossed my path was doomed.
I also had that conversations but instead of saying that he killed innocent folk, my Arthur said that he can’t stopped killing animals. I mean, I had to study them you know
These moments where Arthur can release all that built up pressure and talk with his family make the game really human. Only wish that there was more people to talk with instead of just the girls. I would've loved Arthur to sit down and talk with people who actually have to do all this crazy shit with him or has been with the gang for a long time. Personally, I would've picked Charles, Lenny, John, and Hosa to have a one on one heart to heart with Arthur because they all do what he does. Hell, I imagine Sean and Jack sitting down and talking with Arthur. Sean poking fun and trying to lighten the mood while Jack tries his best to understand what Arthur does, even if he's very young. But these moments are very nice either way!
One of the few criticism I do have is that the fact that he could only have these conversations with the women in camp is because women are usually the ones who take up the emotional labor of men. And even more so...men don't usually have these sort of talks. I think it would have been a really good example of positive masculinity if he was able to have these conversations with the other men
@@greeneyesgirl467I feel you, but there are some moments like when Charles talks to Lenny, Hosea, Uncle, the Reverend, and you about his upbringing and his skewed perspective. I imagine it was hardest in the 1800s to get as real as Charles did. I do wish you could sit down and just converse with Hosea, Dutch, or John. Especially Hosea…
Arthur Morgan is one of the best videogame characters right now. His story, his struggles, his sense of humanity, you can obviously see while playing the game
I just found the Arthur initiated one at the campfire, what even causes that? To be honest, it felt weird, like as if I was gonna switch to another character to watch Arthur as an NPC doing this confession. Seeing how other characters do this, and now you can, it made everything feel leveled if that makes sense.
Ifrit It just happened to be there when I came from camp in Rhodes, it may have happened after the shootout where Sean got killed, seeing how he did express a lot of anger after it. Then again, I also replayed it a bunch, so I could get a gold metal. You just got to look out for it.
It makes me happy that Arthur was able to talk to some of his gang members on how he truly feels. That’s why I wanna get rdr2 so I can treat my gang members right you know get that high honor.
This conversations are a big piece of evidence of why High Honor Arthur is Canon (I mean Arthur changing after his tuberculosis diagnosis and becoming a good man).
3:15 I love John listening in to the whole conversation with Tilly. It even looks like he’s faking working on the wagon as he sneakily listens, the way he looks up at Arthur like “wtf that’s messed up dude” when Arthur says he’s been killing innocent folk was hilarious 😂 Side note but a couple of these talks really suck if you do a play through without killing (minus missions and gangs) it’s not that unlikely to go through the game or at least sections without killing innocent people but regardless of how you play all Arthur will talk about is how he is killing innocent people for zero reason. It feels like a gut punch to the work you’ve put into making Arthur a decent enough human in those cases. Otherwise they were some of the greatest scenes in the entire game on my first play through. A lot of what Arthur was saying rang true, he really made me feel guilty for being a dick to npcs in a video game which is impressive.
Yeah these conversations obviously are only for when your wilding outside of camp and bringing heat on yourself. Even if u have the slightest misunderstanding in one of the towns u have these conversations and it makes it seem like Arthur is a demonic person.
@@moret25 she only used him to get what she wanted. You only heard from her when she wanted something done. Afterwards the bitch told him he was hopless.
During my playthrough instead of Arthur saying that he killed a lot of innocent folk he stated that he killed a lot of animals for no good reason did anybody else get this dialogue or just me?
Yeah I never understood what triggers them. I got the innocent one from trying to rob folk who wouldn't give up money in the early chapters. I think the animals may be because of me running over so many birds and bunnies on my horse.
2:21 Has anyone else had this discussion even if you have killed NO ONE or not even animals? Both playthroughs being good Arthur, he says this. I think it's a glitch.
"I'm still killing animals with no real reason" Bruh, every single animal I'be killing has been sell or eaten, what the hell are you talking about My man?😢😢
It really bums me out that we don’t get to say good bye to Mary Beth. He does 3 of those camp confessions with her! Including the first and last one. And we don’t get to say goodbye!! Lol damn!!
2:18 I got this conversation, but I didn't ignore people who needed help so arthur didnt say that. Instead arthur said that he kept killing animals, this was when i kept on killing animals
4:05 I’m pretty sure you only get that conversation if you’re constantly antagonizing the camp. I could be wrong but that’s the only time I’ve ever gotten it. And the conversation at 6:52 always breaks my heart.
The only problems I have with these conversations is that I got the ones for killing innocents and animals out of nowhere in chapter 2. The only characters I had shot at and killed that were not actively enemies who were already shooting at me were O'Driscolls during events, where they don't start out as enemies quite yet. And the animal one was, as far as I can tell, because I killed two rabbits who lemminged themselves under my horse's hooves, because I skinned and ate everything else I killed. Regardless, the conversation with Mary Beth about Arthur's TB is sad. I think she's like one of only three or so people that Arthur actually tells about his sickness, outright, instead of them just seeing it from all the coughing and guessing.
Fist Fighting seems to count as killing for this. I know there is a way to avoid him saying this but you basically have to play as if Arthur is Jesus Christ.
I hate when Arthur says in a sad way he kills animals just for the hell of it🤦🏻. I hunt cause mrs Grimjaw and mr Pearson keep bitching at me for not doing enough for the camp!
I guess you should only open up to Marry Beth in the camp. It's like she understands that Arthur have emotions. Karen and Tilly? Especially Tilly, nah.
Tilly loves to judge, but she is such an useless character and gang member. It's upsetting that her live gets a happy ending because she married a doctor...damn, I just realized she is Tanisha from GTA V!
@@RandalfElVikingo damn. You're right. I completely forgot about Tanisha, because she's playing such irrelevant role. Rockstar also done this with other characters like Johnny Klebitz and John Marston. You can read on the wiki how many similarities they have. Actually The Lost and Damned story feels like RDR2 but very short and quick paced.
@@rickgrimes8870 Yeah, Lost and Damned is basically RDR2 but with bikers lol. Another one I can think off is Toreno helping CJ compared to ULP helping Niko Bellic: both mysterious goverment agencies, both against national treaths and both help the protagonist in the end. And this one is a very long reach; but in Bully and VCS the main character has to leave the institution he is working on because a betrayal from the main antagonist lol I don't know if we can call this stuff archetypes, but at this point I'm surprised Rockstar has few of them.
Tilly cares, she's just more of a straight-shooter. Mary-Beth sympathizes, Karen speaks logically, and Tilly wants Arthur to stop feeling bad for himself and actually change instead of moping about it.
Ngl, all these self reflecting conversations Arthur has with the women in the camp kinda gives the vibes of Max Caulfield and Chloe Price self reflection thought scenes from the life is strange games.
Its weird that you're the only one who mentioned that. I'm wondering the same thing Edit: I got it and I read you have to antagonize to get it but I have high honor and never antagonize people. What happened was I walked over to the campfire and a prompt said to speak. Idk why
The first time I got the cut scenes about killing innocent people I was in the middle of hunting every mask and knife down while killing everyone I could with the knives along the way like Michael Myers.
It’s funny to me because everyone who isn’t a muscle of the gang thinks of Arthur as the big broody ultimate henchman of Dutch. But then they have these deep talks with him
When he talks about killing innocent people, do guards/cops count as well? Cuz he keeps talking about killing innocent folk but I dont remember killing any actual civilians. It's kind of annoying.
"I've been killing people, animals too, no real reason other than just killing them."
- Arthur with maximum honor
i was like bra no you not
@@yobezzel901, and I'm like, "Yeah brah, totally." (Honour went down fast in my case, haha.)
You can get it the moment you reach Chapter 2 and do literally nothing.
Arthur is guilty over 2 stupid deer
I thought of Anakin Skywalker.
imo red dead 2 is rockstar's last master piece. i got no confidence if there will be a red dead 3 and gta 6 will put a bigger focus on mp and shark cards than the story.
It's a nice touch when Arthur looked behind him to see if Dutch was listening before he says "I don't wanna die".
what min?
@@andpwr6438 5:03
How do you know he was looking to see if it was Dutch?
@@mariguana7918 Well, Dutch is the only one who cares so much about loyalty and muneh. Saying that he's afraid to die would mean that he's not willing to fully commit to Dutch's grand plan hence disloyalty in Dutch's eyes.
Disloyalty.
Dutch hates it.
The only Mary that's worth Arthur's time is Mary Beth.
Why not Mary Linton???
@@faisalchaudhry5281 Because she's too manipulative
That's true. I wish we had other love options for Arthur
@@faisalchaudhry5281 she always listened to her father and let him control her life.
Yeah I was thinking I was the only one who wanted Arthur and Mary Beth together
03:53 I love how John is just hearing the conversation
Giving him a taste of his own medicine
Mason Lam bruh
@@Lusoph1933 Little Johnny Marston
@@trollege9618 So greasy even the wolves spat him out
Getting information for all those times I antagonized him at camp.
Mary-Beth: "Oh, Arthur."
Arthur: *"Don't you fucking start with that shit."*
DONT YOU OH ARTHUR ME
@@moezmajali3888 oh Arthur 😩
@@hughmungus1856 DONT !
@@hughmungus1856 IM TALKING
@@moezmajali3888 Neither one of you.
the writing and voice actors in this game are all so incredible
Big Amateur OK? and...?
The possibility that the Government might have started to hunt Mary Beth, Tilly, Charles, and Sadie by the time of RDR is scary
I think they’re fine. Charles is in Canada, Sadie is in South America, and the rest were never really involved in any of the major stick ups the gang did
The only person among that list that it said to be still at large at least in one of the games newspaper is Charles. So at the time of RDR1 the members still at large are Bill, Javier, Dutch, and Charles. I would say charles is safe in Canada, but they did send John into Mexico to capture Javier so you never know.
The newspapers add Charles to the list of the known members left. Meaning they probably ignored Sadie's involvement. Besides, if the government really wanted those assholes dead they would've sent Marston on their trail.
@@FormulaVase-kp3dc I mean, you never know.
@@godofwar234regi5 I can make a pretty good guess, but your right.
Mary-Beth is probably the most innocent and kind character in gaming history
Mary-Beth is cute as, I fancy the polygons outta her
@@gram. bro down bad
Kieran is also innocent. His backstory is really harsh. Kieran is probably the saddest character known to gaming history. There are others but Kieran is just the saddest dying a miserable death while being treated miserably.
She was a thief though...
Mary-Beth & Jack are really the only Innocent & Good people in the Gang.
Except Jack becomes like John & Arthur.
When I had a conversation with Tilley and Arthur said he was killing innocent people and she didn’t know why, I was, bruh they shot at you for accidentally riding your horse into them so you shot back
Exactly. How much of my honor was lost for bs reasons.
@@Blackkey034 "Howdy partner!" *fixed it*
Me : Passing some strangers camp
Stranger : You ain't supposed to be here
Me : *Pressing defuse*
Stranger : *Pulls out gun*
Me : *Spamming defuse*
Stranger : *Shoots*
Me : The hell is wrong with you *shoots*
Stranger : *Dies*
Honor : Your a bad man *Honor goes down*
Me : HE SHOT FIRST!!!!
@@averyniceguy3964 exactly lol
*Plows into a crowd of people. Survivors get up and draw their weapons.*
Arthur: _can't you take a joke?_
I wish more videogame characters talked like this. Just talking about how they feel about themselves, the world they inhabit, their past, or even just how they’re feeling over what’s happened so far in the story. I know it’s small details at the end of the day but seeing Arthur talk like this made him feel real to me. Especially the conversation he can have with the nun.
It'd fit perfectly in GTA IV because Niko is conflicted about his life throughout the game much like Arthur, he has bad memories of the war, and he wishes he wasn't stuck with working as a hitman
Like imagine being able to vent to Roman through the phone after going on a 6-star rampage
@@thatthinginyoureyewe get deep conversations when we hang out with friends in gta 4 at least
Why does it feel like Arthur is breaking the fourth wall when he talks about killing people and not knowing why?
Another way of the game trying to tell you to take the high honor route
It's similar to the therapy sessions from GTA V where the dialogue depends on what you do in free roam
Makes make soo excited.
@@Mewtwo_150 what?? The session its gonna be different depending on how we play?
@@juliosalazar6558 Yep.
If you make the Blackwater massacre look like a joke or kill tons of animals without skinning them, Arthur and Mary will talk about.
There's many ways the session can go, and it's infinity way more in depth than GTA V's sessions
3:53 "Maybe Micah Put a Spell On Me"
Lol that can be interpreted in the wrong way if no context was present.
@@clayunderearth1884 ig
I miss when Karen was still herself :( It made me so sad, seeing her spiral after Sean
Yeah I’m chapter 6 she was the worst literary drunk all the time
@@helpimobsessedwithdots2421 In chapter 6 everything went downward 😞😔
@@mrbred-el3vf yeah very sad
I love that no matter how sad, hurt, or conflicted Arthur is, he still always takes the time to shit on Micah when he can
Arthur has taught me more than school will ever teach me
What's that
Same he taught me to be loyal not an idiot and it's not money and to help people and others ETC
The funny part about all this is that Arthur never even went to school, at the same he has all the skills.
That’s a serious problem
lol ok
Arthur having a private conversation
John: 👁👃👁
same goes for Arthur really.
Arthur does the same shit.
Mabye John's just pissed that Arthur always noses into his fights with Abigail, so he's going to do the same thing to his personal conversations.
@@FormulaVase-kp3dc yes lol
Magane Tenryu wow never seen a comment like this before
Wish we could've had a private Arthur conversation during the campfire where Arthur talks about how he met Dutch and Hosea
The lines I always get is about killing animals needlessly. All those damn rabbits and birds my horse runs over.
You're telling me. XD
Especially when getting perfect pelts for satchels...
I find it hilarious tbh, imagining this hardened gunslinger getting in his feels about running over rabbits
Arther Morgan taught many the immense importance of self reflection
When I got that first conversation Arthur just comments, "I keep killing animals, pointlessly."
In my defense the only animals I "pointlessly" killed were ones that accidentally got run down by my horse. I even collected them.
Suicidal rabbits
Yeah these conversations only pop up when your wilding outside of camp and bringing heat on yourself. Even if u have the slightest misunderstanding in one of the towns u have these conversations and it makes it seem like Arthur is a demonic person.
6:10 i think this is meant to be a 4th Wall Break. Arthur says he “doesn’t feel in control” because it’s the player controlling him.
I thought the same thing
Literally every woman in this game: 1:11
Marybeth and Mary Linton be like
orthor!
and they're both named mary what a coincidence
@@trollege9618 yep
Oh Arthur! 😫
3:09 John's reaction got me! Hahahaha!
Great video by the way! Very reflexive lines here, thanks for the compilation!
"Why ain't nobody askin' how I'm getting on?"
And then pops his head up like "Damn." when Arthur says he's been killing a lot of innocent folk.
He looked very concerned😳
“..acting like a fool..” hit me hard, the fact that he doesn’t feel in control is exactly how i feel
Mary Beth really cared for Arthur and was definitely the most innocent one in the gang except for Jack but I mean amongst the adults, I always think despite the age gap between them both they're a great match shame Rockstar didn't allow for Arthur to get involved with others but in some ways that makes the game better, I was late in playing red dead redemption 2 but it's definitely one of my all time favourite games now and Arthur Morgan is one of the best game characters I've seen/played
More like "Arthur's therapy moments"
arthur talking with tilly
video titled *arthur's private conversation's*
*JohN MArstOn IS SittINg RIgHt THeRe HelLOoooooOoOoOooOOoOoOOO HEs RIghT theRE*
Imagine Arthur and Micah having one of these conversations that would be hilarious
It wont happen cuz Micah will never care
@@connormac4401 that’s why I said “imagine”
Micah would be like you're a rotten killer like me Morgan....I salute you brother. tho Arthur can be 10 times worst
That'd just be an argument
This is why I could never bear getting the low-honor ending for Arthur. Sure, it's fun in the moment to cause total mayhem. But then, he has moments like these, and you can see how much Arthur hurts when he knows he's not being good. You can make Arthur do bad things, but you CAN'T make him into a bad man. That's why I feel like I'm disrespecting Arthur and going against his own will when I make him act like an asshole. That's not the kind of person he wants to be, even if the player chooses to make him that way.
honestly, I had more fun being the good guy rather than the bad one
Facts
Arthur is a bad man.
He is an Outlaw who nearly beaten a sick man to death.
I would argue the low-honor ending isn't Arthur being a bad man. To the very end, he's trying to convince Dutch to see sense, even when he's got a knife in his chest.
It's possible to not disrespect Arthur because what I always do is start off as a greedy, low honor psychopath, and then I redeem myself and get max honor once Arthur becomes sick. Really nails the "Redemption" part of the title
I love how the conversations are different depending on what you're up to. When I spoke to Karen he told her he was killing a bunch of animals for no reason. I was collecting pelts to sell to the trapper at the time so any and every perfect pelted animal that crossed my path was doomed.
Arthur and the girls have taught me more than any educational system.
Arthur and Mary Beth were always good together. Wish things would've went better for Arthur and he ended up her but at least Mary Beth got out ok
She 100% had a crush on him, but Arthur chose to remain loyal to Mary Linton and Isaacs mother
I also had that conversations but instead of saying that he killed innocent folk, my Arthur said that he can’t stopped killing animals. I mean, I had to study them you know
These moments where Arthur can release all that built up pressure and talk with his family make the game really human. Only wish that there was more people to talk with instead of just the girls. I would've loved Arthur to sit down and talk with people who actually have to do all this crazy shit with him or has been with the gang for a long time. Personally, I would've picked Charles, Lenny, John, and Hosa to have a one on one heart to heart with Arthur because they all do what he does. Hell, I imagine Sean and Jack sitting down and talking with Arthur. Sean poking fun and trying to lighten the mood while Jack tries his best to understand what Arthur does, even if he's very young. But these moments are very nice either way!
One of the few criticism I do have is that the fact that he could only have these conversations with the women in camp is because women are usually the ones who take up the emotional labor of men. And even more so...men don't usually have these sort of talks. I think it would have been a really good example of positive masculinity if he was able to have these conversations with the other men
@@greeneyesgirl467I feel you, but there are some moments like when Charles talks to Lenny, Hosea, Uncle, the Reverend, and you about his upbringing and his skewed perspective. I imagine it was hardest in the 1800s to get as real as Charles did.
I do wish you could sit down and just converse with Hosea, Dutch, or John. Especially Hosea…
“After a very serious conversation”
Well don’t let me disturb you.
"OKAY, ILL CATCH YOU LATER THEN"
Me: accidentally hit a rabbit on the road
Arthur with maximum honor: I keep kill animals, needlessly
Arthur Morgan is one of the best videogame characters right now. His story, his struggles, his sense of humanity, you can obviously see while playing the game
I just found the Arthur initiated one at the campfire, what even causes that? To be honest, it felt weird, like as if I was gonna switch to another character to watch Arthur as an NPC doing this confession. Seeing how other characters do this, and now you can, it made everything feel leveled if that makes sense.
How do you get that.I never got it
I wanna know how to do it too
It happened to me one night, multiple people were around the campfire and the sit button said “talk” instead I think.
Ifrit It just happened to be there when I came from camp in Rhodes, it may have happened after the shootout where Sean got killed, seeing how he did express a lot of anger after it. Then again, I also replayed it a bunch, so I could get a gold metal. You just got to look out for it.
@@savagelogic8674 Sean is still alive at this point, he's sitting on Arthur's left
It's like even if the player use arthur to do bad things it's like his character is fighting to do good and I like that about him
It makes me happy that Arthur was able to talk to some of his gang members on how he truly feels. That’s why I wanna get rdr2 so I can treat my gang members right you know get that high honor.
If you don't want to rush the game its harder than you think
And why the hell are you watching all these spoilers if you don't have the damn game
@@theholyknight. decided to see some gameplay before I bought it. Still was worth it
The amount of detail they put into this game... No wonder it's a masterpiece
This conversations are a big piece of evidence of why High Honor Arthur is Canon (I mean Arthur changing after his tuberculosis diagnosis and becoming a good man).
3:15 I love John listening in to the whole conversation with Tilly. It even looks like he’s faking working on the wagon as he sneakily listens, the way he looks up at Arthur like “wtf that’s messed up dude” when Arthur says he’s been killing innocent folk was hilarious 😂
Side note but a couple of these talks really suck if you do a play through without killing (minus missions and gangs) it’s not that unlikely to go through the game or at least sections without killing innocent people but regardless of how you play all Arthur will talk about is how he is killing innocent people for zero reason. It feels like a gut punch to the work you’ve put into making Arthur a decent enough human in those cases.
Otherwise they were some of the greatest scenes in the entire game on my first play through. A lot of what Arthur was saying rang true, he really made me feel guilty for being a dick to npcs in a video game which is impressive.
Yeah these conversations obviously are only for when your wilding outside of camp and bringing heat on yourself. Even if u have the slightest misunderstanding in one of the towns u have these conversations and it makes it seem like Arthur is a demonic person.
It's almost like he's breaking the fourth wall...
Almost....
i think mary beth/sadie would suit Arthur better than "oh arthur" chick, at least theyre decent
Mary was still madly in love with Arthur, or she wouldn't have mourned for him when she visited Arthur's grave
@@moret25 she only used him to get what she wanted. You only heard from her when she wanted something done. Afterwards the bitch told him he was hopless.
Orson Welles wow, you’re gone
I felt like Mary Linton's dialogue was forced. Mary-Beth and Arthur are much more natural if you ask me.
@@moret25 She probably only realized after hearing the news of Arthur's death
During my playthrough instead of Arthur saying that he killed a lot of innocent folk he stated that he killed a lot of animals for no good reason did anybody else get this dialogue or just me?
Yeah I never understood what triggers them. I got the innocent one from trying to rob folk who wouldn't give up money in the early chapters. I think the animals may be because of me running over so many birds and bunnies on my horse.
@MrRaney yes i've had that conversation
2:21 Has anyone else had this discussion even if you have killed NO ONE or not even animals? Both playthroughs being good Arthur, he says this. I think it's a glitch.
Yea, I'm doing a high honour playthrough and I've barely killed any innocent people yet I always get the animals and innocent people conversations
@@MisfitKingOfGamingI guess it’s just part of the script. Doesn’t make sense.
"I'm still killing animals with no real reason"
Bruh, every single animal I'be killing has been sell or eaten, what the hell are you talking about My man?😢😢
It really bums me out that we don’t get to say good bye to Mary Beth. He does 3 of those camp confessions with her! Including the first and last one. And we don’t get to say goodbye!! Lol damn!!
6:09 lol did he break the fourth wall here? "I'm not in control" lol
nice they put these introspectal things about them
basically the shrink sessions in GTA V except they dont overcharge like Pube Head
3:31 dammit john mind your business!
"You boys mind if I sit down a while ..." is a universal code for "you mind if I talk my heart out and you listen".
2:18 I got this conversation, but I didn't ignore people who needed help so arthur didnt say that. Instead arthur said that he kept killing animals, this was when i kept on killing animals
4:05 I’m pretty sure you only get that conversation if you’re constantly antagonizing the camp. I could be wrong but that’s the only time I’ve ever gotten it.
And the conversation at 6:52 always breaks my heart.
The only problems I have with these conversations is that I got the ones for killing innocents and animals out of nowhere in chapter 2.
The only characters I had shot at and killed that were not actively enemies who were already shooting at me were O'Driscolls during events, where they don't start out as enemies quite yet. And the animal one was, as far as I can tell, because I killed two rabbits who lemminged themselves under my horse's hooves, because I skinned and ate everything else I killed.
Regardless, the conversation with Mary Beth about Arthur's TB is sad. I think she's like one of only three or so people that Arthur actually tells about his sickness, outright, instead of them just seeing it from all the coughing and guessing.
Fist Fighting seems to count as killing for this. I know there is a way to avoid him saying this but you basically have to play as if Arthur is Jesus Christ.
It’s good to see these! 👍👍👍
Amazing content as always.
My Arthur said “ I been just killing animals for no reason” then in the next one he’s like “I been killing innocent folk”
Same
Serial killing lol
I love these, Thanks!
Why are there consecutive flashbangs going off behind the wagon
5:04 I like how honest Arthur is there
I hate when Arthur says in a sad way he kills animals just for the hell of it🤦🏻. I hunt cause mrs Grimjaw and mr Pearson keep bitching at me for not doing enough for the camp!
Probably triggered because we run over a bunch of bunnies and birds on accident with horse
This makes me cry 😭
Maybe micah put a spell on me 😂😂
I feel like Mary Beth would've hugged him when he told her he was gonna die
I love having girl talk with the camp, it stripped away Arthur’s savage demeanor and just showed you who Arthur was as a human being
Way better then those stupid Therapist missions in GTA5 at least Mary-Beth, Tilly, & Karen care and give good advice to Arthur.
I guess you should only open up to Marry Beth in the camp. It's like she understands that Arthur have emotions. Karen and Tilly? Especially Tilly, nah.
Tilly loves to judge, but she is such an useless character and gang member. It's upsetting that her live gets a happy ending because she married a doctor...damn, I just realized she is Tanisha from GTA V!
@@RandalfElVikingo damn. You're right. I completely forgot about Tanisha, because she's playing such irrelevant role. Rockstar also done this with other characters like Johnny Klebitz and John Marston. You can read on the wiki how many similarities they have. Actually The Lost and Damned story feels like RDR2 but very short and quick paced.
@@rickgrimes8870 Yeah, Lost and Damned is basically RDR2 but with bikers lol. Another one I can think off is Toreno helping CJ compared to ULP helping Niko Bellic: both mysterious goverment agencies, both against national treaths and both help the protagonist in the end. And this one is a very long reach; but in Bully and VCS the main character has to leave the institution he is working on because a betrayal from the main antagonist lol
I don't know if we can call this stuff archetypes, but at this point I'm surprised Rockstar has few of them.
Tilly cares, she's just more of a straight-shooter. Mary-Beth sympathizes, Karen speaks logically, and Tilly wants Arthur to stop feeling bad for himself and actually change instead of moping about it.
Arthur: speak to Tilly and say he keep kill innocent peoole for no reason
Me, with max honor, helping everybody: dude wtf
Ol John just sitting back there listening to Arthur and Tilly.
Now John knows everything hiding there behind him lmao
Ngl, all these self reflecting conversations Arthur has with the women in the camp kinda gives the vibes of Max Caulfield and Chloe Price self reflection thought scenes from the life is strange games.
I had all these conversations with High Honour
My arthur told karen he's been abusing women.
4:04 how do you get this conversation
Never got it
Its weird that you're the only one who mentioned that. I'm wondering the same thing
Edit: I got it and I read you have to antagonize to get it but I have high honor and never antagonize people. What happened was I walked over to the campfire and a prompt said to speak. Idk why
You antagonize the camp for a while, and apologies
Are these supposed to change based on honor? Arthur be saying some wild stuff sometimes when hes max honor
Arthur: Tuberculosis i'll be dead soon and you with me mr. milton
DON'T YOU "OH ARTHUR" ME!!!!
-Arthur Morgan, 1899.
😆
The first time I got the cut scenes about killing innocent people I was in the middle of hunting every mask and knife down while killing everyone I could with the knives along the way like Michael Myers.
I hope GTA 6 brings these back, I wanna have this type of convo with Jason after I make Lucia go on a 6-star rampage across the entire map
“We made our choice long time ago”
8:30 After i heard that i hear "Shine Light Into Darkness."
Same
Who would reject these.
This is Arthur trying to explain the occasional craziness the player makes him commit.
Except my arthur does zero of these things and yet these convos still happen
These conversations don’t change any with high or low honor? Bc they didn’t for me was thinking it might be a glitch
I think Micah put a spell on me - Arthur Morgan 😂😂😂
How to get the last cofession with Mary beth in beever hollow?
You need the high honor
It’s funny to me because everyone who isn’t a muscle of the gang thinks of Arthur as the big broody ultimate henchman of Dutch. But then they have these deep talks with him
“Also killed a bunch of folk, I don’t know whuay,” who’s behind those sticks?
I love those conversations
Arthur, oh Arthur. Mary Linton, is that you? Or Mary Beth know something?
They should’ve made Arthur break the fourth wall with these conversations.
Mary-Beth reminds me of Aerith. Am I the only one?
had all these plus one where he says he has been killing animals just for the hell of it.
I've never heard the campfire conversation 🥺
Weird feeling. Arthur said he wasn't in control anymore because i robbed the doctor on valentine
When he talks about killing innocent people, do guards/cops count as well? Cuz he keeps talking about killing innocent folk but I dont remember killing any actual civilians. It's kind of annoying.
If i remember, he doesn't regard the guards/cops as innocents.
Missed this one? Saw the question mark but ignored it lol gotta go back n do again...
Oh 2:34 by the way!