The five bands Lou Reed hated most
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- It’s no secret that Lou Reed was an obstinately cantankerous contrarian, and there was little he enjoyed more than sticking in the craw of his peers. Accounts of Reed’s personality varied wildly depending on who was asked. The pattern was no enigma; if Reed liked someone, he would sing their praises and likely get on well with them, but if he wasn’t fond of you or your art, you’d better hope he wasn’t asked about you in an interview.
00:00 - Intro
01:06 - Roxy Music
01:31 - Frank Zappa
02:39 - The Doors
03:32 - The Beatles
04:24 - The Who
Lou was a speed freak, it tends to jangle the nerves 👍😊
Lou even hated some of his own albums!!
Can't say I blame him. Too many of his solo albums were chock full of filler.
I’m a little surprised Velvet Underground wasn’t on this list. Lou Reed wouldn’t be my most trusted source.
About the only thing he was ever right about.
Lou had that in common with Lennon then. Lennon would often knock his own stuff, almost as much as he did Paul's. ;)
@@jeffmurdock8321 And the comparison ends there. Lennon had more talent in his baby toenail than Lou ever possessed.
I had a friend in HS in the early 70's who was very excited to see Lou Reed live. Lou came out and couldn't stand he was so drunk. He sat on the stage edge and just mumbled.
Lou Reed took notes early on observing Andy Warhol's responses to questions reporters would ask about his art.
No way.. Warhol had total control of the interview. Lou reed was always stressed out unless the interviewer was another musician or artist of some sort. His attitude was influenced by his stress level. Reed felt powerless with reporters because they burned him in sth 1960s so his stress level ruined him with them when they were friendly with him and had better intentions.
Warhol's genius might have really just been how he talked to the press. His art was never as good as his p.r. abilities.
Reed was always a mess.
FZ dedicated an LP to Lou, it was called "Shut Up and Play Yer Guitar.
Thanks. Showed an incredible list of my all time favorite musicians to include Lou Reed and everyone he didn’t like.
A lot of those old interviews with various musicians had them trashing each other for fun, and winking after they tried their latest put-down lines. Actually, they respected each other as musicians. As you say in the beginning of this video, endless strings of interviews became like a game.
Yep. I remember being at a Tull concert where Anderson was trashing the Stones. Obviously with a wink and a nod so subtle no one really got it. In reality, Ian said the Stones, Zeppelin, and Mountain were his fave bands.
I adore mind readers.
Lou Reed was just a crank who got easily annoyed, sometimes with his own fans. Hell sometimes with his own creations.
But I’d say there were some musicians from that time who genuinely didn’t like each other, or didn’t respect some other’s musicianship.
Original viral trolling.
I think Lou is trolling, a lot of these responses were to idiot reporters, he was likely intoxicated at times, although some of these statements had truth in them
I agree, and it’s no secret he did not like interviewers
Lou Reed hated himself more than any of these musicians & bands& HE WAS RIGHT. I know a lot of people who knew him& they all agree he was a miserable person to the very end.
I completely believe you.
Good for you man good for you
@@ericaward702 Lou? That you?
😄
Reed was simply insecure and jealous of other artists whom he felt were competition for him, artists who had ambition to do more than 2 minute pop ditties, as he saw himself as "the artist" of pop music. Reed wrote a handful of good songs, but overall I found nothing of interest in his work. (I was not a big fan of Zappa, actually, but he certainly produced work of greater ambition and accomplishment than most of Reed's output.)
For a master of pretentiousness Lou sure liked to call others pretentious. He also sounds bipolar.
If he based his entire view of The Who on Tommy, okay, whatever. But he was wrong about them. Pete Townshend is one of the best songwriters in Rock history, and his post-Tommy stuff speaks for itself.
Reed was jealous of how good Jim Morrison's voice was..
Anyone can bash more popular bands. Keep in mind this is when everyone had chops and were pushing boundaries. These weren’t “pretty” kids and auto tune. They were all real musicians. Not liking the Beatles is just silliness and being petty. I’m not a fan of the Doors but they had their place. Bashing The Who and Townsend? I guess if you are going to be a jerk you might as well aim high.
Miserable Lou seems like he was jealous of anybody who was more popular, successful or respected than him; which was a lot of people we consider greats.
Sour grapes and jealousy.
I am a huge fan of Lou's solo and the Velvets music. I am also a a huge Zappa fan. Seen both of them live a handful of times each. I don't care for the Beatles, went through my Who phaze. At the end of the day, who the hell cares what Lou likes or dislikes. Think for yourself! If you like a band cool, if you don't, cool again. If anyone remembers the old magazine articles back in the day they did this "I don't like this band" shit all the time. Jerry Garcia, supposedly hated the Doors. Aerosmith disliked Queen. At the end of the day all this "I like this band, I hate this band" was just bullshit to sell magazines. By the way, I like Captain Beefheart and hate the Ramones.
Pete Townshed is a little overrated. It was The Ox and Keith Moon that made The Who so great imo.
@@RMTmusic1-mv1jh Keith Moon taught Joe Walsh how to party like a rockstar, who in turn taught the comedian, John Belushi, how to party to such an extreme.
Ramones were crap
ok I was hoping to hear Lou Reed talk.
He softened so much in his later years
What I'm curious about is Lou's opinion on Marc Bolan and T. Rex. Bolan and Reed occupied some of the same ground musically, both were Jewish, and they even somewhat resembled each other physically. There are photos of Bolan at around 20 or 21 where he could pass for Lou. It's hard to imagine Lou NOT being impressed by "Bang a Gong."
You mean "Get it on" of course (as rechristened for the delicate US public).
"Both were Jewish" Funny how nobody will call you antisemitic for saying that, but if you were to say the same about Jeffrey Epstein, Harvey Weinstein, Mark Zuckerberg, Vladimir Lenin, or Karl Marx for example then somehow that's different...
@@user-ei9ns9hq6b Ah, as Dave Chappelle said in his SNL monologue: "....ah, but when it's a group of "insert their name" it's just a coincidence." We're only allowed to refer to them collectively in the positive, all while they can negatively collectivize every other damn group, and especially Whites. We need to end that shit ASAP.
What does them being Jewish have to do with anything? Nothing. Lou Reed wasn’t religious at all. I don’t know about Bolan.
@@5tar5zJewish is an ethnicity as well as a religion. At least half of Israel is made up of secular Jews.
I can't really dislike Lou. Transformers is one of those albums that doesn't have a single bad song. David Bowie saw a lot of talent in Lou and wanted to help him. That's why he produced Transformer. Along with Mick Ronson. Imagine if it had produced Lou's entire career. It would be impressive.
Cant say i agree with his take on some of the bands esp.the doors but reed was definitely not an overrated hack.the velvet underground were unique and way ahead of their time in my book.
What book is that. Reed couldn't sing to start with or play.
most of his problems were jealousy. Zappa and him were rivals .. their personalities clashed because they were both wrong men? He obviously hates the people he loves.
@@MicahMicahel Zappa was a class musician. Reed became friend with Bowie who helped him.
He was trolling, he learnt from Warhol.
TH-cam is getting poisoned by endless clickbait videos about who "hated" who in the music biz.
Reed inducted Zappa into the Hall of Fame. That tells you what he really thought of him.
Does it? Or does it tells us Reed was a hypocrite?
his debut album was called lou reed. transformers came later
The video said that. 'Eponymous' basically means self titled [referring to his first solo record]; it also said 'Transformer' was the more successful follow-up. ;o)
He might have been a cranky character but whats important is his music,which was really good.
Reed's take on the Doors was off base. The Doors made perhaps the darkest trippiest music of the era. They didn't have that bubblegum pop sound that many of their peers did and bands like the Byrds criticised them for that. So they didn't really fit in with the other bands of the era or that whole hippy movement so much. Maybe Reed was just jealous they were able to achieve a much more macabre, grittier vibe than the Velvets could. Not to mention Morrison's prowess as poet far exceeded Reed's poetic aspirations so there was that to contend with as well. And I say this as someone who still listens to both bands.
Nah man, the Doors suck.
Bro doors were making Touch me Babe, and light my fire. These are pretty basic. They did have some good stuff too obviously but VU was darker
@@nickpagano7134 Well, the reason that I don't like the Doors is because I feel like they are very boring and mainstream; Their music sounds good but it lacks substance.
@@xXXBongToker420xXx yeah I was agreeing with you
The Doors were making darker and more trippy music than White Light White Heat. Not nearly.Jim Morrison more poetry and Lou Reed more like prose, both some of the best. Agree that Lou was jealous. Morrison was was more of a dynamic performer. I am a huge fan of both bands.
I totally agree with him, just add grateful dead.
But is it the band that grates or is it their insipid fans?
Lou Reed hated everything when he ran out of... H
Roxy Music was amazing! One of the best groups ever!
Hands down without a doubt.
Those first 4 records especially are pure innovation, musical prowess, humor, style & magic.
Also that he called Zappa "untalented" is a bit much.
To say the same about Pete Townsend is just beyond the pale.
This is an awful video: 1) Zappa was responsible for delaying The Velvets' first album' release from the spring of '66 to October '67: he pestered Verve (both The Velvets and The Mothers Of Invention were on Verve Records) not to promote The Velvets because they had Andy Warhol, among other things. 2) Reed once played Lennon's Mother and there are Velvets' bootlegs where they play Day Tripper. 3) Reed played an acoustic show with just Pete Townshend a few years before passing. 4) Reed disliked The Doors simply because Nico liked Jim Morrison of whom he was jealous (Nico told me). 5) At one point in 1974 there was talk about The Velvets re-uniting with John Cale, Nico & Roxy Music's Brian Eno who was a huge Velvet Underground fan. The people who make these videos don't know what they're talking about; I bet this guy wasn't even around in the 1970s... 🙄
Any artist who calls the Beatles garbage,ain't much to think about, I heard this guy's name , maybe one song or 2 , Frank Zappa was a genius, this dude was a hypocrite, it ain't like he wrote the best stuff.
We're all entitled to our opinion and I respect yours, but let's face it, if someone judges The Beatles on their worst work or by the bulk of their solo careers they won't be deeply impressed. So unless you've heard Reed's best work from his professional prime, you may very well not be in a position to judge his merit. I don't mean to come across as hostile, though.
😂 The grumpiest guy ever...
"Taking a hit" would mean adverse effects on their career... The Who's career was never effected by words from Lou Reed.
True. Lou was a nobody by comparison. Just another smarmy, NY Jew.
01:40 Reed can't say that Zappa liked ("admired") him without Zappa's permission. The story gets funny from the beginning. 02:25 Oh, question: What did Lou Reed do that was other than "Sweet Jane"?
I like Lou Reed and like or love the music of these artists he dissed. It's all good.
I respect how hard he worked, the rep he made for himself.
I can't stand any of his music. And I am grateful I never had to endure his presumptuous presence.
Knowing Lou Reed I’m surprised Velvet Underground or himself wasn’t one of his most hated bands.
Lou did not know I walked out of one of his concerts. It was likely country & western music on drugs.
way back in the 80s a couple buddies and myself were casting for a singer for a New Wave band..... I recall more then one came in and when asked who they sounded like they said (more then one said this LOL) I don't know, maybe Lou Reed.....Oh?.....you can't sing at all is what you are saying.... ? The fact is, Lou Reed would have to practice to have a voice for rap.... LOL
Lou was under the influence of Warhol in those days. Hilarious.
Maybe why he didn't like Morrison given his history with Warhol.
Lou was just trolling at least in the case of Roxy Music and Frank Zappa. Didn't he do a great eoulogy or HOF induction for FZ? edit: yeah 1995 R&R HOF FZ induction.
Dead or alive he was a Aragant no personality overrated under achieving musician !
He was hyper promoted due to the nepotism of his people. Same with Ginsberg, Leonard Cohen, Amy Schumer, Sarah Silverman, etc.
All of them were/are mediocre to slightly above. None of them deserved the fame they got/get.
3:19 When I was younger, I made a comment on a Mogwai video saying that I didn't like Jim Morrison or The Doors too much, and I got a lot of flak for it. Now, I feel vindicated.
It’s still a bad take bro. 😎
@@aclark903 If liking the Doors was a good take, I wouldn't want it.
and I like the Doors
Lou Reed is based and I agree with pretty much everything he said.
Lou was the opposite of based. He, and his ilk, are exactly how we got to all this woke shit. Bar non. He was a radical lefty smallhat, which is another term for shit.
No one gets press when they're sweet as cherry pie, Lou got each one of these acts attention. Even today it still sparks conversation. That said I kinda get sick of seeing contrived YT posts that amplify hate that really never was. The Beatles and Doors wrote about the exact same topic as Lou, The Beats and their art. Bowie is no slouch when it comes to reflecting the Beats art back to us either. It must be hard for those in the UK to understand the American Beat Literary Movement. Just guessing and assuming.
Yes! This piece of trash video is simply for clickbait. That's why this slug has only 2.2K subs and only 28 comments after more than 3 months. He probably wasn't even in the scene in this time! Video/uploader gets a big 👎!
"Hey Oyving! Take a walk on the kosher side".
He doesn't like The Who? That sucks. I like The Who WAY more than I like VU. But I guess I have to be respectful since this is Lou Reed's video. Plus Rock and Roll is one of my all-time favorite songs. And why is Pete Townsend philosophically boring, wtf is that supposed that mean? You mean he can't actually see for miles and miles? I'm just going to pretend I didn't hear that....
if you don't like The Who you don't like R& R. I've had people tell me they don't like Dylan, The Beatles or Elvis Costello. That tells me the person has no taste whatsoever.
i think i heard him say he really likes the who in an interview from the 80s. I think he said they where the only good British band or something like that. He does say alot of things out of spite but i think that maybe he got alot more musically open as he got older. Obviously he was a contrarian too
Here! Here! I can't bear to hear their wretched rubbish.
The Who are good but I mean, the Velvet Underground is phenominal, way better than any of that trash
Reed was a Warhol puppet.
So he was basically Noel Gallagher
He went on stage with Tom Petty , Jeff Lynne , and Eric Clapton and Bob Dylan and afterwards he said I cringed at first but I actually had fun with them.
BS. Cale wrote a song about Picasso, which was a hint for Reed.
Jonathan Richman wrote Pablo Picasso. And where did you get that the song is about Reed?
the zappa thing was probably due to the verve records rivalry and verve's choosing to promote one over the other... just a guess at the root of that one, but obv lou was bitchy and tongue in cheek to great extents...
But Lou made sure he never faced Frank with that, one on one. He'd have lost...Frank could out-Lou Lou...
He was fucked up a lot of the time back in the day. And pretty cantankerous. Great musician, as are all the people he trashed here. 🙂
Lou didn't like success.
Or at least pretended not to
Metallica and Lou Reed together, I mean, that's the WORST F@CKING SH!T ever spewed out from a record factory!
It makes me 💢 sort of disappointed that Lou says such things... 🌬️ because it probably is a sign of jealousy... You have to be pretentious to accuse so many original major artists to be... pretentious 😮 or rubbish.. There are enough second grade artists that are praised... Why destroy the good ones?😁
maybe Lou doesn't know that he's sucks too
I'm a big Reed fan but what a damaged human being.The last person that should have criticized anybody's playing.
Lou was a great writer imo, but i always think of him as "the guy who kicked John Cale out of the VU."
John Cale was the only talented one in the group, tbh.
@@phukuhu7310I'd say most talented.
@@crysstoll1191 True. The rest has some skills, but were no where near that level of skill on their instrument as Cale. Lou was a good lyrics writer.
Cale should have been co-credited for the music, selfish Reed would have none of that. He wanted everybody to believe the Velvets was entirely his doing.
When I got into the Velvets in the early 80s, I got Transformer and Street Hassle. They were ok, but seemingly there was something lacking. Shortly after, Cale released his Honi Soit lp in 1981 and I was lucky to randomly hear him on the radio (when ever do they play John Cale on the radio?). I was impressed, so the next day I got the album and quickly updated on his back catalogue and have practically everything he has ever recorded. And Lou Reed? Never looked back...
Im 46 and never liked Beatles, Stones, Led Zep, Pink Floyd
In other words, you dont like british rockmusic?
@@FreezeMathias boring
@@FreezeMathias Hendrix, Dylan, CSNY, Doors, The Stooges, MC5 good music
Reed cant sing and cant play Guitar, so what qualifies him to criticize real musicians😎😎
I don't dislike the Velvets, but it's musically inferior to the bands it criticizes. Lou Reed has only two satisfactory albums. Transformer and New York. He was a pretentious and frustrated individual.
Just about every individual mentioned in this video was a better musician and song writer than Lou Reed.
Or .......5 bands Lou Reed was Jealous of ...............
Lou was never yellow always right
Chances are, if Lou Reed hated your band, it was one of the greatest bands ever.
Lou Reed? Overrated nobody.😎
Não desgosto do Velvet , mas é musicalmente inferior às bandas que ele critica. Lou Reed tem apenas doi albuns satisfatórios. Transformer e New York. Era um indivíduo pretensioso e frustrado
Lou Reed hated himself.
Probably for dabbling in the gay lifestyle and getting hooked on intravenous drugs.
Lou Reed wasn't that talented himself. He's barely a blip on the radar. I only know him cause I'm old. Most people today never heard of him. He's sort of like David Crosby is his vitriol toward other musicians, the difference being that Crosby actually had talent.
Crosby had talent? LOL he is the textbook example of the out of touch boomer that nobody with a libido cares about
wrong
Lou Reed, one entry on the Billboard Top 100 chart, reaching number 16. The Beatles, 20 number one hits and 34 top 10 hits on the Billboard chart.
Commercial success being the ultimate aesthetic criterion of course.
@@99tonnes It is, certainly, one factor but perhaps more important is that most people and critics would agree that, from a talent point of view, Reed wasn't qualified to carry their sheet music.
Velvet Underground wasn't popular, but "everyone who was a fan started a band."
McDonald's likes to claim the billions of items of slop sold, too.
@@rocketpigrecords3719 Boy, you really had to go out into left field for that.
@@gwine9087 not really, they aren't exactly obscure - it's just that you're shallow & fellate the most famous thing you see.
Zappa’s music is horrible. But at least he documented his be of the most important albums in music history: Trout Mask Replica. Smart guy too, it’s a shame his music sucked.
Reed talking about Zappa sounds like he is talking about himself ... two-bit pretentious.
Reed wrote and performed some great music, but his public persona was embarrassingly infantile, like a 13-year-old desperate to impress. He had a point about Tommy though.
Im a velvets fan, but I worked on one of his gigs once, he was a right c**t.
This guy at some point seems to have hated everybody. Especially people far more talented than him. The Doors were much more musically adventurous than the Velvet Underground.
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Oh f*ck you they can barely write a good song; Velvet Underground, Lou Reed, all hits.
Frank Zappa did suck, and so did Roxy Music.
Well, at least Lou was right about Frank Zappa. And Townsend is philosophically boring. Tommy is so overrated and a lyrical embarrassment. Otherwise, Lou should critique his own records; most are no good. Lou excelled at caustic interviews and he was great at those.
Zappa was too far ahead of his time, that's all.
@@michaelcap9550 It's all taste. Some of his songs are fine but I never heard one song that moved me. Some could say too many of his songs sound like novelty songs though nothing so wrong with that. I don't know his stuff well but I don't like the sound of his guitar. He might play great but one has to like the sound.
Lou Reed hated Zappa because both of their respective bands, Velvet Underground and Mothers Of Invention were competitors on Verve Records.
@@neonfrootWhat do you mean "both"? How could only one of them be competitors?
Velvets we’re splitting bills with the dead during the era they were runnin into zappa n such. They ripped.
I stopped listening to this when the narrator mispronounced Bowie. Basics.
the more i learn of him the less I like him
I can't stand Lou Reed, but I like Roxy Music, Frank Zappa and sometimes the Beatles.
The Doors were better than all of them.
@@user-ei9ns9hq6bThe Residents & the Third Reich & Roll album.
I'm not a fan of Lou solo but the VU, Roxy Music ,the Doors, and Frank Zappa are all mighty fine imo.
He is right about Zappa his music was nauseatingly awful
Lou then inducted Zappa into the R/R hall of fame! Paradoxical games! Obfuscation defined lol
Some of it was, but, some was phenomenal!
No one cares what mr.one hit wonder has to say.when your music sucks,you have no reason to say what other bands are playing.
"INDICTED" Zappa into the HOF? How about inducted? While many thnk Frank"s music was a crime, he was never charged. LOL.
I don't care who he hated because I really think the VU and him were over rated shite
Punk rock is full of spite and shit talking not unlike gangster rap.
@@neonfroot rap is far worse tho
Reed had a bummer journey.... a hick up...
truth endures. Face it, I like many, consider myself
a bud in a garden who opened slowly during
the changing rock evolution as life experience
evolved .We listeners adapted to real change
that fit the chronicles explaining our romantic
and political driven attitudes. Peace from the
West Coast.
Zappa, huh. Well I guess you hate what you can't comprehend. Lou Reed, sooo overrated.
Reed was annoyed Frank got signed before Lou.
Well if he was bitter about Zappa that clearly changed over time as Lou inducted him into the hall of fame and plenty of kind words about him during that ceremony.
Lou Reed was not a good musician. He sang flat. He knows nothing of the daunting task of learning the building blocks of music. He was an artist, but not a very good musician. So to criticize the music of bands like The Beatles shows an ignorance of which I didn't think he was capable.
I love roxi music
Lou Reed was a talentless hack who just copied what all the other burnouts were doing. Every other person or group on this list was far superior to anything he did and his only good work was with Bowie and Ronson. Given the option I would have rather had another Bowie album. Also Townshends worst songs are written better than anything Lou Reed could ever hope to pen.
"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss" - yeah, really look lacking in lyrical talent, and philosophically boring. I used to like Lou Reed but this video has convinced me he was totally up himself.
Lou Reed actually liked Frank Zappa
Yawnnnnnn
Lou Reed sucked, everything he did sucked. i always knew that and still look back and think...Wow, Lou Reed SUCKED!!
Zappa is a joke
Neither Reed or Zappa had any sort of real talent.
What a stupid comment
Lou Reed's music was garbage.
With Lou and The Beatles it was complicated and with Zappa they were like a couple of cats, but The Doors he definitely despised and I get it. Riders On The Storm is ok (in fact LA Woman gets a pass from me) but the rest is mostly dross. I used to like The Who but nowadays I think _'Who Are You'_ the single is better than Tommy in its entirety w/ all that Christ fantasy nonsense and Q & Who's Next which is horrible chest-beating Clarkson fodder. Trust Lou's judgement kids.
one of the most overrated hacks of all time
U probably liked phil collins more,
Go back to your bong hippie.
Thats just a dogshit take objectively
@Thereisbut1bunghole SINGLEHANDEDLY? is this a joke? I like Lou Reed too (at least his time with VU) but your statement is just flat out false. To suggest that Iggy Pop, the Stooges, the MC5, Black Sabbath, and Deep Purple (among others) didn't have a hand in all that and pretend that Lou himself invented all those genres just makes you look like a sycophantic tool.
You Don't know Sh!t!
five musicians I hate the most 1 Lou Reed 2 Lou Reed 3 Lou Reed 4 Lou Reed 5 Lou Reed
..you can stuff the pretentious ny bullshit......roxy fz the beatles the doors and the who ALL completely blew anything lou did out of the fucking water....and i love r&r animal...because of the band...who also blew him out of the water.....