what happened to American Eagle's "INCLUSIVE" sizing? (inside the fitting room)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ม.ค. 2022
- American Eagle dropped a BIG launch in 2019 where they extended their sizing and offered sizes 000-24, in extra short to extra long. These sizes were available both in store and online! Lately, over the last few months I've been seeing a bunch of talk about American Eagle NOW cutting back on their extended sizes. After doing a little bit of research, I noticed that most new styles cut off at a size 14. The average American woman is a size 16/18. So my question is... what happened to American Eagle's "INCLUSIVE" sizing? Let's head inside the fitting room and see what we can find out!
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I haven't shopped at American Eagle in quite a few years and found their sizing very unusual recently too... I usually wear a 0 but often size up to a 2 (especially if pants don't have stretch) because I personally like a loose waist but I had to purchase my straight leg mom jeans in a 00 and they're a very comfortable fit, like, even have a bit of room in the waist... VERY odd, that is definitely not my size! I asked the woman in store and she said some jeans you have to size down, some you have to size up, but people are usually never their actual size in their jeans and it all depends on the style.. like, why?!?!?! Just make the sizes consistent across all of your styles, and make the sizes align with other brands - people shouldn't have to size up or size down as a standard in your store!!
Yes absolutely agree. I just don’t get why these brands can’t get with measurements by item, give us the actual measurements of a certain fit and item, not just “bottoms” or “top”. Don’t just say “high rise”. Give us the numbers! I saw some brand list high rise at 10.5 inches and another as 12. They should just give all the info to the consumer right away so we can stop messing around with buying the wrong items, returns, then out of stock, getting a new item for it also to not fit. It’s exhausting. Seriously. Brands should just make items and make them all consistent I just don’t get it and if they can’t make them all the same, then give actual measurements for each item, and for EACH SIZE OFFERED. would make such a better experience!
@@carlycontri1778 The rise would be the easiest thing to tell a consumer too. I personally prefer a low rise and what brands consider low is 9-10in rise and I realistically can't do higher than 8in rise otherwise it hit me in a weird spot that I don't find flattering and and the button is on my navel which is pierced and has been for 20 years and I never had a problem until jeans got higher and buttons started rubbing it.
@@carlycontri1778 american eagle does list the rise measurement on their site :)
@@OHsatellites that was just one example. Hips, especially. But give us these per each item and for each size so we can decide how something would fit us and empower us to know ahead of time
I’ve had the same exact experience. I had to size down to a 4 lol. Never in my life have I been a size 4. Prior, I’ve usually been a size 8 or 10. It’s so crazy.
Oh my god Carrie, I was just on the AE website YESTERDAY looking for a pair of size 24s and I couldn’t find any and I thought to myself “I should DM Carrie Dayton and ask her if she could investigate” Thank you for so much and I love you!!!
Is a possibility that the jeans above an 18 don't sell as much as other sizes either due to the region the store is in or that a lot of women in those size may prefer leggings? Not saying it's right, but it is so hard to find comfy decent fitting jeans even in standard sizes especially depending if you have a curvier shape or thicker or more muscular legs. I need a lot of stretch in the legs otherwise I have to size up a couple sizes for butt and legs and waist is too big
@@amanda9301 the region doesn’t matter when shopping online though. And what a weird generalization that people in larger sizes only want to wear leggings. Who told you that?
@@amanda9301 its online too tho
@@amanda9301 I'm pretty sure size 00 / 0 don't sell as often either but they never seem to be out of those. in face they're always the last ones left. it's not an excuse to stop being inclusive like they claimed to be
No they dont sell higher than i believe a 16 or 18 in store. The higher sizes are only usually online. Im a size 20/22 tall and they no longer go any higher than 18 sometimes 20 online. But Abercrombie and fitch do go higher but way pricier.
I worked at American Eagle from 2014-2019. During that 5 years, I learned a few things... 1. There are no 16s or 18s in the store because they are purchased almost immediately (at my store, many of them by me). 2. There are so many 000, 00 and 0 because no one buys them. 3. I worked stock & floor sets and dressed all of the bust forms for my store and to my knowledge there was never a plan for larger female mannequins. 4. Their website DOES have a lot of diversity, at least in the photos. So there is that. Too bad it's only online and they are always sold out. 😑
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I commented this in another comment. When I worked at AE it always looked like we had lots of XS sizes in stock bc nobody bought them. We actually got the least number of the smallest sizes though when stock arrived. But that was before they expanded to 18. So it’s possible those had less stock too.
The smalest sizes are always the least popular and what's left on the racks :(
There are different sized bustforms now! We use them for the windows, and we have legforms in varying sizes. These include size 16 forms! It would be amazing to have them not just in the window and legforms, but it is definitely a start.
And 100% about jeans selling out as soon as they come in for sizes 8+.
I've worked at American Eagle now for 3 years. I was told by my manger that they reason they brought in smaller sizes like 000, 00 and 0 is to appeal to younger kids. In my store, the 000 and 00 never sell. Some size 0's sell like I buy them but for the most part it's sizes 2-16 that get bought the most
Off topic but made me laugh the “they are purchased almost immediately (by me)” lol
I think what bothers me the most (aside from them taking the larger sizes away) is that their entire campaign for years has been empowerment and "every body" and then their sizing is like this
word! like it’s bad enough not providing larger options, but then they try to mislead customers and make it seem like they’re more inclusive and progressive than they actually are.
@@shaunnicolewheeler872 YES exactly!!
You know what also bothers me? Aeries swim suits. I know they go up to a xxl but their swim suits still never fit me. Im bigger chested and wear a 42 DDD and it makes me mad they talk about inclusivity but the bathing suits are so cheap and small
Yeah, I feel like their sizing used to be so much better than this, but they just kept that up for like a year and then went back to super limited sizing? Not cool.
Going in store, digging like that, and then having an employee ask me if I need help and telling them my size and them coming back to tell me they don't have it is an actual nightmare. A nightmare I experienced being curvy and trying to buy Hollister jeans in 2004 and they only went up to size 11.
How do stores not realize how humiliating that can feel for people that struggle with their confidence? It's really disheartening.
YES!!! And to add to that that the sales associate was usually much smaller than I and did not have that issue. Talk about feeling embarrassed. I feel you!
Hollister has changed to be more inclusive, now. I buy my jeans from there since they have less stretch and don't bag out as much. They go up to a size 21, a significant improvement even from when I was in middle school less than a decade ago.
Ah trauma flash back! Had that same experience in hollister 😭
I'm a size 8 short in AE jeans and they NEVER have my size!! I've gone so many times because I'm like yo i need pants. I just ordered online because I can't wear ripped jeans too work and it's annoying because where I live literally nobody is a 000 or 00. That's all I see here
I went through this as a teenager in Abercrombie & Fitch, but the sales girl didn’t even go look she just flat out told me she didn’t think they went that big… I was a size 8/10 in pants and a medium/ large in tops at the time. Talk about causing huge body image issues!
Okay, my roommate tought I was crazy when I told her that I thought black jeans always fit tighter. thank the lord someone agrees
Yeah, I've always thought black jeans fit tighter too
It has to do with the fabric thickness and dye of black and dark denim. It's not a thought, it's just a fact.
Sarah Rae Vargas mentioned in one of her videos years ago that dark denim tends to run smaller and that sometimes she'd even size up if she was buying darker denim.
I agree!
I've heard black bras run smaller (less stretch in the band) because of the dye. Makes sense it'd be the same for jeans.
Also to note, every time I’m on American eagles app, the first sizes usually to be sold out are the xl. Sooo idk if that goes hand in hand w the fact that the average women is size 16-18 (most likely), but it’d be pretty cool if their stock would reflect that.
I was thinking that too.. if 68%(the percentage I found) of women are 14+, unless AE is stocking WAY more larger sizes than other sizes(I don't know if they stock equal numbers of every size or how it works), that would make sense why the larger sizes are more difficult to come across.
@@shellsisacoolpear I worked at AE many years ago (so I’m not sure if it’s the same) but we used to get the most sizes in medium and large sized tops. We got the least in XS (with XL somewhere in the middle) but still always ended up with the most overstock in XS so I felt like it always looked like we stocked more small sizes when we didn’t. They just didn’t sell. I would be interested to know if that’s still the case.
@@kat-napzzz that's exactly what I assumed. I've noticed from MANY stores, not just AE cause I actually don't really shop there, their sale items or outlet items are almost always mostly XS, so that makes sense.
THISSS!!!! And then they will advertise that specific piece that you were looking at on fb for like the next three months
AE has definitely changed their sizing because some of their clothes are not true to their size, especially their bottoms. It’s tiring to hear that AE+Aerie marketed themselves as “inclusive” when even before their sizing went to XXL. They need to update their sizing to at least 3x, the bare minimum.
honestly since seeing girlfriend collective carry up to a 6x, i will no longer be accepting less. companies, make it work
exactly !! and some of the XXL clothing runs wayy smaller.
It doesn’t make sense that in the bottoms he biggest size is a 22 (or 24? I don’t remember) but dresses and tops only go to a XXL. Because, and correct me if I’m wrong (I’m straight size, so maybe idk) but 22-24 doesn’t equal a XXL, does it? 🤔
They were so great when they added people that have different disabilities and all that and what makes me upset is I am very tall because I have something called Marfan syndrome. The only place I could buy jeans was American Eagle because they had extra long. Now there is like two options in an extra long. Great. Thanks AE. It was nice while it lasted.
I like to tell myself that the reason there’s hardly anything above a size 12 meanwhile there’s a TON of 000-4 is because most women are above a size 12 so those sizes sell out much faster. It’s probably not entirely true, but it’s comforting when jean shopping gets upsetting because there’s nothing in my size
Actually, that is very true
As a person that wears a 00-000 x short I will tell you that even my friends that are pretty thin and only a few inches taller than me wear a 6-10, so you are in fact right why you can't find pants for the most part. It's more common for women to wear somewhere between a 10-20 and they make less pants in those sizes and instead make more pants in my size, but I promise there are very few people as small as I am so idk why they make so many 00-000 jeans because nobody is going to buy them I only need so many pairs of jeans so they should use that material for the more common sizes instead of wasting materials.
i work at AE and you are completely correct
The ‘curvy’ styles from AE have been a godsend for me for YEARS. Recently I went into a physical store looking for other washes in their curvy jeans. I only saw one wash and asked an associate if they had any others that I might’ve missed. They said “oh no one really wears that” meanwhile I was LITERALLY wearing AE curvy mom jeans that day. I said “oh i guess just me then” and they responded “yeahhhhh sorry try online” it was so frustrating and I felt defeated. I tried some other styles that were marketed with a “comfort stretch waistband” but the thighs were soooo tight!! I felt like i was going to burst out of them if I even walked in them. I tried 3 different sizes!! Such a shame. Can’t even shop there anymore
They’re always sold out online and I can easily find them in my store. Maybe it’s the area you’re in?
omg they've had the same like 8 pairs of jeans for over a year and a half like HELLO can we have new ones yet lol
THIS WAS MY EXACT EXPERIENCE! I was looking for mom jeans, but all of them were fitting like skinny jeans on me, so I went to the curvy section and there was one style. Like come on AE!
I got AE jeans at Goodwill for $7.
This would be an really interesting series. Investigating size inclusive straight size brands and comparing online vs instore and rating how accurate it is to the marketing.
I agree!
this!
Ooh, love this idea!
The last time I went into American Eagle to try on jeans, the sales associate basically told me they only had a few random pairs of random styles in my size and that I should "try buying online" (which doesn't really work for jeans for me). The sales associate also thought she was being nice but used certain words to describe my body type that was not helpful, but that's a different story.
I went in and had the same experience! I was told they would only have the extended range sizes if someone had returned them and that I could shop online.
I agree! I cannot buy AE jeans online. I need to physically be able to try them on because different styles of jeans don’t fit the same for me. Its such a hassle having to order them just to end up returning them
Buy online , via eBay or another thrifting site. The sellers usually have the measurements listed. This helps alot!
I'll say this: there's an AE Clearance Store at an outlet mall near me, which is basically overstock and things that aren't selling well or are off season, and everything in the store is under $25. When I tell you everything in there is a 00.... There are like 50 pairs of 00 in every jean and NOTHING over a 10 or 12. It just doesn't seem to me that they are selling the amount of 00s they're making, and if their larger sizes aren't selling in the regular stores they're certainly selling in the clearance store. I really don't understand it.
right like why not dial back on production of the 000/00 sizes and make more of the larger sizes if that is what is selling? Heck even waitlist orders online would be appreciated at this point if the orders are happening quicker than production. Other companies just don’t seem to have a problem keeping up though. Restocking seems like a pretty essential part of retail🤷🏻♀️
I've noticed issues with their sizing too (AND their taking away of the free jean reward from their loyalty program) and I'm SO sick of companies blaming it on the pandemic. A lot of it just feels like excuses to save money. I travel for work and Marriott has been really really terrible about this yet prices stay the same or rise.
They need to save money because of the pandemic is hitting the economy hard in every which way.....Use ur brain......
Hi! I actually used to work there, I was a sales lead back in 2020 and they actually got rid of that pre pandemic. I also was sad when I found out that the rewards was changing. They do $$ off now. No free Bras either which again, makes me super sad.
100% agree with your assessment that they have changed their sizing in general, in addition to reducing their extended sizing. AE used to be the ONLY place I could go to find jeans that DON’T give me a major camel toe (which is something I’m very self-conscious about that happens in every other brand of jeans I’ve ever tried), but recently that hasn’t been the case. I have also had the same issue of the waist running SUPER small when trying on their jeans in sizes that SHOULD fit me perfectly. Like you, I’m normally a size 16 and recently I’ve struggled to find jeans there that fit me properly, which is an issue that I’ve never had with them before and it’s very discouraging.
EDIT: Also related to the fit of their jeans, they also appear to have changed what they consider to be a high rise. It used to be that you could count on them to have the highest high rises available, but now if you look at the model photos of those jeans they call “high rise” or “high waisted” they’re clearly below the model’s belly button. Anything below the belly button is NOT high rise, that’s mid rise at best.
Omg I have purchased a few pairs of AE jeans recently and the camel toe problem was NEVER an issue until now. I thought something was wrong with me.
Maybe the models have longer torsos so it falls lower on their waists? Most of them are tall, so they might just not be representative of the fit for someone who has an average sized or short torso.
In like 2018/2019 I was really pleased with their rises, fits, and sizing, but it seems they've gone back to being the way they were when I was in middle/high school and catered to stick thin girls and had lower rises. I hated those days 😭😭😭
Yeah they definitely have regressed! It’s been super disappointing because it became my go to place to buy denim over the last few years as I went from a 10 to 16. The styles I used to love most rarely come in my size these days so I’ve tapered off on buying their denim and honestly will be looking for new companies the next time I need new pants. I will say as far as the mom jeans, I’ve never been able to buy the same size there in rigid versus stretch denim. If I buy a 14/16 in stretch denim, I buy the 20 in the rigid mom jeans. So that exacerbates the issue because those are rarely in the store and an actual size 20 would need like a 24, a 24 would have no options.
They seem to refuse to grow with their customers - extended sizing and more dark wash, non-distressed options would make me a lifelong customer but they refuse to evolve.
Yes totally. Why so much distressing? Think about it. Not everybody who shops there is a teen or college student or wants ripped jeans. Give us something more we able, idk dare I even say elevated or mature? Something a bit classier, less trendy but something I can wear for 5-10 years? Darker washes for sure!
@@carlycontri1778 yeah I personally like wearing distressed jeans in my free time, but I need jeans for work too and AE is so limited in what they offer 😒
I find their sizes have been all over the place lately, I’m usually a size 14 and the other day I tried a size 18 in jean shorts and they didn’t even come close to zippering 🤷🏻♀️
I’ve noticed a big difference in their sizing the last few years! I bought a pair of size 12 mom jeans a few years ago that still fit perfectly but in the last few years when I go to buy their mom jeans I have to buy a size 16… I compared the waist band to my 12s and they’re almost exactly the same!
Once I realized that AE stopped being more inclusive with their jeans I was so bummed. I had already purchased 3 pairs of jeans from them and would've continued to buy more b/c honestly they were my favorite jeans. So disappointing. It almost felt like a tease in a sense.
I’m obsessed with your whole look between you hair, accessories, and outfit! I love you Carrie and all your videos so much! 💛
this makes more sense why i’ve been having a hard time ordering jeans. i love ae but the sizing is so mixed now that i don’t think i know my true size anymore. and ae used to be one of the very few brands i could shop online in confidence knowing my exact size. but that doesn’t seem to be the case anymore. thanks for talking about this!
I hate how they phased out A LOT of their curvy line 😭😭😭
I really appreciated that you are talking about this. When I first started shopping at AE (as a college student) was the first time I found jeans that truly fit me and made me feel good. A few years on and having gone up more than a few sizes, and I can no longer find jeans in the styles I like in my new size. I noticed it this summer, when there was literally no denim shorts in my size or the size up.
The chaps comparison KILLED me. I do not get the over the top shredding at all lol. I love these videos! Thank you for filming in store, I know it must feel awkward sometimes ❤️
These huge thigh holes are so unwearable. Even when it fits me perfectly, my legs bust through the holes and it’s like a busted can of biscuits. Lol you get the look. Ughhh lol
Carrie!!! I needed this today. Yesterday I went to the outlets and the mall. I am a size 14 sometimes 12. I literally went into roughly 12 stores and no joke found one dress in my size and that is IT. I tried on a few are 16 and even a size 18 and they were the only other size and they still didn't fit. I'm a pretty confident person but after that I for sure cried and felt very frustrated. American eagle didn't even have a size 10.... I immediately felt like I must be bigger than the people in my area. That is not true and honestly who cares!? But when you can't even find clothes it for sure feels defeating. I just mostly felt like at least my size is generally available. If I were larger it would probably feel even more alienating. They must do better...
I'm curious how much of this has to do with the pandemic - I know in my retail store, tons of our suppliers are experiencing production issues. But if that's the case, why aren't we also seeing lack of other sizes? Is it because most women are plus sized, so those sizes sell out first? Or is it just because AE is prioritizing smaller sizes? Very curious
A lady that worked at AE told me that they were trying to cater to the younger kids because of Justice going out of business and the lack of children's clothing options. BUT, adults also buy their clothing so I don't get it either.
I think many women buy in those sizes and are out of stock. Usually my size 8/10 are never there, I think another common midsize. When she said there were available sizes in mine, I was a bit suprised because I never find them either (especially in long). 😅
This was happening long before the pandemic/supply chain issue thing, so I highly doubt that’s what’s behind it. Many companies are just using that as an excuse to hide behind as a greedy tactic to save money.
@@alisha1377 I think they’re HOPING we will assume that maybe the lack of availability in the larger sizes is because those sizes just sold out, but I really don’t think that’s the case - it seems as if those sizes were just never available to begin with. I’ve shopped AE jeans VERY exclusively for the past several years, and within the past year or so I have noticed that a new style will drop and ALREADY will say “out of stock” in the larger sizes THE SAME DAY, even if it just dropped THAT day. Like, come on, no one is dumb enough to believe that a brand new style that JUST released is already sold out in ALL sizes above a 14 or a 16 on the same day it was released, and the fact that they seem to think we ARE that gullible is honestly insulting.
@@thegoodanfamily9817 I really think the Justice thing is an excuse. That store was for literal children. Like their shirts had unicorns and emojis on them. AE doesn’t cater to the same crowd. It’s bizarre they’re trying to claim they’re compensating for the lack of options children have but like only in jeans I guess? 🤷🏼♀️
It seems like they've gone back to being the way they were when I was middle/high school and made me feel insecure and bad about my body. Sucks because around 2018/2019 they were doing so great with their sizing/rises/fits.
i’m so happy you addressed this! it’s really been hurting my self esteem lately bc i was strictly an AE jeans wearer for years and now i can barely fit in them around the waist!! i’ve had to size up just to be comfortable in the waist and have looser legs, but sometimes that just doesn’t work. also sooo many have no stretch now which is just terrible lol
I’m so glad someone pointed this out, I have literally lost weight this past year and yet I went up a size in American eagle jeans. Me and my husband literally had to scower a.e. For a size 10 or 12!!
Seriously I've been so confused because even online their sizing seems super restrictive? And the larger sizes sell out WAY faster and then never seem to restock. It's really frustrating, and has made me not want to support the brand.
Meanwhile popping into an Old Navy store has never been nicer - I had plenty of denim options and could size up/size down freely without issue (I'm a size 14/16 too). It was such a nice change to other stores that seem to totally restrict the sizing.
Exactly!!!! I’ve switched to old navy too
SAME! Old Navy is my go-to now, when AE used to be. It's just annoying and buying online is so hit or miss. It sucks tho, bc I prefer the look of AE, but sizing is much more consistent at Old Navy. I've had literally zero problems at ON, even ordering online! I'm a 14/16 too and they always fit. No matter the style!
I think the fabrics of most of the new styles have changed drastically. I tried on one of their newest styles and I’m normally a 0, maybe a 2 depending… I took home a size 6. The new styles are super tiny. The girl helping me told me too that with all their jeans she’s 4 different sizes🤷🏼♀️. Super annoying.
4 different sizes..... shopping for clothes as a woman honestly seems like a scam sometimes...
Thank you for doing this. Everything that you said is spot on and has been my exact experience. To make matters worse, online jeans are frequently sold out and when in store, you cannot take the smaller size jeans to the register and ask them to send a larger size to your home like you can in most stores. This place felt like a literal trap to me and I'm never doing it again.
I realized that also, it was a trip when I saw they had nothing above a size 14 in my local stores. But I took a hint when I saw tons of ae jeans flood TJMAX and Marshalls around the holidays. The stores were cleaning them out I figured. But they can definitely do better... and it shows. It is very sad.
If they were being shipped off to TJ Maxx and Marshalls it likely means they weren't selling. Could be due to poor fit for the sizes they are made for or there just aren't many people in those sizes shopping there.
Yes Carrie! You're doing the work!!! I lovedddddd my AE mom jeans and I haven't been able to get a new pair in over a year because I am an 18 long and they are consistently out of stock. I've also never seen my size in store. I appreciate you for showcasing this issue because I was starting to question my reality.
Im a 16 long and they only have two bootcut jeans and like 900 high waisted jeans. I HATE high waisted so its a constant battle when i go online
Same problem, but exactly the opposite. I have been waiting for MONTHS for anything to be stock in a short length! Glad to know I’m not the only one riding the strugglebus here!
Thank you for doing AE and showing this because I was just about to go to my local mall and buy new jeans( I haven't had a new pair in 5 years) but knowin this I'm not going to even try. I'm a size 16/18 also. Thank you SO much, Carrir, for starting this series up again ❤
GOD this is so CATHARTIC to watch! I worked at AE for around 2.5 years (got hired around the end of the campaign with the size 22 model) For years I’ve been telling everyone that the plus sizing is so difficult to come by now, and that everything feels smaller and nobody would listen bc AE and aerie was still seen as body positive and inclusive! I’m so glad people are starting to realize!
I can genuinely say from working fooorsets, early stock shifts, and FTF (at my old store anyways, I’ve left since then lol) in a box there will be maybe 2-3 pairs each of 000-10, then around 14+ you’ll only get one pair each…makes me really fucking sad
Carrie. I thought the exact same thing. I know that I have gained a little bit of weight but I still fit into my size 16s that I already own. I was so upset and frustrated leaving AE a couple of weeks ago. Thanks so much for doing this video!
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ Loved this! Def want to see a part 2! As a woman “in the majority,” I appreciate you calling attention to changes like this. I totally agree with your point that not including plus sizes is a miss on the part of clothing brands. Seriously, I spend a ton of money on quality clothes that fit properly bc only one or two brands even make stuff like that and they know they can charge whatever they like.
Totally agree, just a small thing to point out is that when you use the filter it only shows what is in stock. So likely there are more styles made in the extended sizing…they are just sold out. Which is totally another issue in its self!!!! (E.g. stocking issues, catering to their “audience”)
Its so frustrating! I swear they sell out of everything so quickly
Yes!!! Thank you Carrie, this has been so frustrating at AE!
Amazing video Carrie! I’m a size 14 and used to be an American Eagle Stan but I’ve noticed it’s super hard to buy jeans there now too! The section explain the size differences in stretchy vs ‘regular’ jean was great! PLEASE go into H&M and explore their sizing. It makes 0 sense to me and my store never carries larges
I’m glad you mentioned the tears in everything! I wore a size 6, high waisted curvy skinny jeans and they fit me perfectly, perfect rise, perfect fit at the waist, comfortable, I loved them. They were my go-to pair of jeans, black, no tears, perfect for my casual office. But they’re starting to wear out so I went into the store a month or so ago and I could not find a single pair of jeans in the curvy cut in my size that didn’t have holes! And as casual as my office is, I can’t have holes in my jeans. I walked out without any jeans and now wondering where I’m going to find my go-to jeans now
I am so glad you made a video on this! I literally just emailed them about this earlier this week. They used to be my go-to for size 22 jeans- when I looked online a week ago there was NOTHING available!
Also, I see some comments saying there may be a supply shortage, however, I’ve tried to go on the website multiple times in the last year and their sizes 20-24 have been extremely limited. Now, they’re basically non-existent.
I was literally just in AE yesterday and they have 1000% either changed their sizing or changed the cut of their jeans to fit people with naturally smaller waists. I’m a pretty true 8/10 and have several items from AE in those sizes that I’ve purchased in the last couple of years, but trying on jeans in store yesterday I could barely fit into a 10 and sometimes not even that. I don’t have a curvy figure so the waists felt really small when they never have before in AE, which is maybe what they were trying to offset with that “comfort stretch waistband” but I don’t remember there being any stretch in them at all. While I’m fortunate to have the option to size up, it still feels wrong for a brand that already carries a 000 to resize their clothing to fit smaller bodies or a particular body shape while also taking away larger sizes. Frustrating🙄
This is just another reason why I hate numbered sizing. Just measure the darn inseam and waist. Then you can add sizes for younger teens/kids who want to shop there without having the skew everyone else's experience at their expense. Shopping is a slog, why do they keep making it worse every decade for random reasons?
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Somehow brands also ignore height when it comes to size inclusivity. They don’t carry larger than a 14 in x-long.
I love that you said that because I’m like an 18/20 but also like 6 feet tall. No pants are long enough
Height is a huge issue too! Brands rarely carry an inseam longer than 28" in women's jeans and leggings. I'm not super tall but a 28 is above ankle and I would like jeans that cover them once in awhile 😂
I’m so glad that someone is bringing attention to this. I have been a faithful AE jean wearer for several years now. My favorite jeans are all from AE and are all a size 14. Recently, I wanted to find a pair of the “wide leg”/ “90s jeans” that are more in style. I went to 3 different malls, each with an AE in addition to other stores. I must have tried on over 50 pairs of jeans total and the sizing was just wild. Depending on the style, I couldn’t get a 14 up my legs, the 16 would either fit or be massive on me, they didn’t have the jeans I liked in a 16, let alone a tall. It was so discouraging. At the end of the day, I found two pairs at H&M that fit me perfectly and I’m so happy with that. But it was a really awful day of shopping and sweating too!
I’m in Central IL and I was SO excited when they launched in store extended sizing because I haven’t been able to find a pair of American Eagle jeans that fit me. Unfortunately, all stores within about 2 hours of me were not “included” in the extension. It has definitely gotten worse - now I can’t even find XL tops in our store 😭 sucks because you are right they could be the top brand
I honestly have never found a perfect for me AE jean, even though i've tried.
Plus their 'tall' sizes aren't tall enough for my liking. I'm just overall bummed with this brand!
Thank you for going into the fitting room for us- it was nice to see that kind of format once again
Definitely excited for a Part 2- I used to love their jeans...20 years ago when I was a size 6. I'm around a 10/12 now and no matter what size I try on, even up to 14/16, I feel like it doesn't fit me right. I do go for their comfy clothes but I wish the jeans would work too :(
The last pair of jeans fit you like a glove! They looked good on all angles 👏🏾
Thank you for this video!! Also I love your top. The color and style look amazing on you!
Definitely agree on the sizing. I am almost at the point where I don't even want to shop at a retailer that doesn't carry a full range of sizes in store. it's so frustrating to want or need something in a day, that you have to wait days for to ship to you. if you don't have the same energy you have online as you do in store, why even spend my money there.
I will say that I know the filter online applies to "in stock" items only. So maybe they technically all go up to a size 24 but nothing is left in stock. I don't know if that's a reflection of what sizes are bought more or what sizes they make more of or both. I also haven't checked all the styles size offerings to even know of they do all go up to a 24. Just saying that using the filter may not tell you as much as it seems to.
i have noticed that even in their brand new items sizes XL or XXL are “out of stock” which makes me wonder if they were ever in stock to begin with.
It is telling because if you can rarely ever (or never) find larger sizes in stock, then they may as well not exist. Either they're manufacturing way too few of the larger sizes, or they aren't prioritizing restocking them because 9 out of 10 times when I check AE's website for jeans, barely anything is available in a size 16 or 22.
@@NatLovesFashion I noticed the exact same thing. A new style will drop and ALREADY will say “out of stock” in the larger sizes THE SAME DAY, even if it just dropped THAT day. Like, come on, no one is dumb enough to believe that a brand new style that JUST released is already sold out in ALL sizes above a 14 or a 16 on the same day it was released, and the fact that they seem to think we ARE that gullible is honestly insulting.
Okay that shirt looks SO GOOD on you.
Like so flattering!
I wear a 12/14 and can’t always find those sizes at AE anymore. My go to had been Lauren Conrad (at Kohls) and JCrew curvy. Both I’ve never had trouble with, and generally can count on them looking great
Seems like they’re just reverting back to their old ways! When I was in middle/high school they went up to an 18 online but only carried up to 14 in store. 🙃
I've noticed a change in their sizing as well in particular it seems the waist and butt are much smaller. I tried sizing up and found the waist was too small even in a size up and then two sizes up was definitely too big. It feels like they've adjusted their size to accommodate smaller women who want to buy larger for a baggier look, but still want the jeans to fit. Really tragic I've had their jeans recommended to me so many times.
I agree with this. Ive been a 4 for like 6 years now in almost every brand of jeans. And recently bought a pair of size 4 mom jeans at AE and it fit perfectly Everywhere EXCEPT the waist felt so tight. Like the waist felt like a size 2 to me.
I think it’s more to do with the ‘traditional’ curvy woman. I am an hourglass shape and finding jeans is a nightmare. Always fit the butt and thighs but leaves a ginormous gap in the waist. Or they fit my waist and are too tight everywhere else. I LOVE the curvy fit jeans because I don’t HAVE to wear a belt or worry about my pants falling. They just fit. If you don’t have a small waist in comparison to your hip measurement they just won’t work though. I think because so many people are wearing super high rise jeans and some curvy people have more of a belly it’s just causing frustration.
@@Ashanti.Mae. thats probably also the case!
Yes! I've ordered the same jeggings from them in the same size for years. And my most recent pair had such a small waist. I thought maybe it was just a poor quality control issue, but I guess not.
Yes, Carrie!!!!! Thank you for doing this!
Carrie you are so amazing. I love that you’re showcasing this. Try ons and maintaining self love is so imperative. I can get so down about dresses (not showcasing any brand.) I’m pear shaped and I feel between sizes like to get the right fit in the waist I have all this gap in the chest.
Thank you for investigating this for us, so that we don’t have to face that humiliation in stores. AE needs to do better. We love you, Carrie! 🧡
I have very historically fit well into the curvy jeans in an 8 long from AE. Last pair of jeans i bought from them said size up so I ordered a 12 and they couldn't go on because they were TINY. Not to mention last time I was in their store they had no curvy fit jeans in the entire store
That’s odd. I actually have to size down in the curvy fit because they’re so stretchy. I’m normally a 6/8 but in curvy I’m a 4. I am an hourglass shape though. I’m sure shape and proportions makes a difference because I definitely don’t look like a 4.
Yes! I keep having to size up too, with no change in weight from a year or two ago.
I had the same experience, ordered the size per the chart and too small!! I had to go up to 14 when I'm usually a 10, maaybe 12 depending on fit. Very frustrating!!
Yep I agree! I'm also a 16 and now have to size up if I want them to fit.
Glad to not be the only one to have issues with AE pants lately. These comments actually help a lot and I appreciate you making this video. This past summer I had a huge issue with ordering stuff online and none of it fitting because the sizing was off. I used to be able to wear a 14 in AE consistently and for the last 6-9 months at least everything I’ve bought has been sized up to 16 or 18 in the same styles that I wore before. It’s so weird to have some jeans in my closet at size 14 that fit perfectly and others in larger sizes that also fit perfectly. The inconsistency is so frustrating for trying to buy online and avoid in store shopping during the pandemic numbers spiking again. 😅
Thank you so much for doing this video Carrie! I have had the same exact experience as a size 16 trying to find AE jeans in store (i'm from Canada btw). Also Haven't been able to find good jeans from them online for a long time as they are always out of stock. It is so disheartening to see that happen after finally finding a brand of jeans that fit and made me feel good :(
As a fellow Canadian with not much hope for AE where else do you buy jeans because I'm lost 😑
@@crystalg4943 I'm still having a hard time figuring out where to find nice jeans! I found a pair I like from the Vero Moda plus line at the Bay, but other than that i'll probably have to look at Reitmans or see what else is at the Bay or Old Navy, but I find the fit on jeans from those places is just not as nice as AE unfortunately :( I haven't had luck with Penningtons jeans fitting nicely either
I agree with your assessment of these sizes. I used to be a true 8 in AE and recently have been a 10 in AE but struggled to find that size in stores recently and the waist is just so uncomfortable overall.
I thoroughly enjoyed this video!! Hope this brings some clarity- I work at American eagle. Any mom jeans that say “comfort stretch waistband” mean they don’t stretch anywhere but the waist band. My whole stores knows to stay away from them because they SUCK. if you’re aiming for your size in mom jeans ALWAYS go for “stretch”, you may even have to size down! Hope this helps❤️❤️
Really appreciated you doing this video!
I hate seeing a bunch of unmasked people as well inside spaces.
Thank you for this video! I want into an AE recently and found pretty much the exact same thing. The employee told me I could order online because the only way they would have 20-22-24 jeans would be if people had returned them. All the mannequins and model pictures were pretty thin people. I literally walked out and immediately googled if they had stopped selling plus sizes in store and all I found was then announcing that they would carry everything in store. Such a disappointing shopping trip.
I’m so happy ur talking about this because I noticed this probably around august? Like the biggest size I found on the website was a size 20 and that was so disappointing. I used to love American eagle jeans and now they reduced their sizing and it isn’t even the proper sizing either. I’m typically a size 18 but I got a pair of their mom jeans and I sized up to get a baggy look and those were skin tight on me :( I hope they can fix this problem potentially cause I definitely won’t be shopping there anymore.
Thank you so much for covering those mom jeans with the comfort fit waist band! I have a pair of shorts and jeans that are labeled that way (I ordered online when the pandemic first started.) They are so ungodly tight but look good on and I beat myself up over it for months. I still have them in hopes I’ll be able to fit in them comfortably soon but Poshmark might be the place for them.
I’m now a size 14 but even when I was a 10/12 I had trouble finding those sizes at american eagle. Thanks for making it clear that they’re not being very true to their message. I still have the urge to shop there since I have the credit card buuuuut I’ve been steering clear.
Thanks for doing this Carrie! I’ve been seeing American eagle jeans in the discount shops like TJMaxx, Marshall’s and tons on clearance at Burlington. I bought a bunch of them, some have been under 10 bucks!
Me too! Love finding ae jeans at TJmaxx
@@Hannahleigh_ right? It’s like “winner”!
Hi, Carrie! I’m a size 16 too and American Eagle used to be my favorite place to buy jeans. Now I love to get jeans from Stitch Fix. I feel like they have the most comfortable jeans. I totally recommend them!
Omg this video was so validating! My favorite pair of jeans from a couple of years ago were AE jeans. After having a baby and changing sizes (due to weight gain and a changing mom body) I finally figured out my new size (16). However, any jeans I tried from AE just never felt right (the waist is always soooo tight). I thought it was due to the rigid denim trend, but I kept seeing women with my body type rocking rigid denim just fine. I finally had accepted that AE was just not mom-bod friendly, but now seeing this video I'm realizing that AE definitely changed something with their sizing.
I worked at AE in college and always felt that AE was more for teens and college kids. I found that their sizes were slightly smaller than other stores. I can’t bring myself to shop there since.
yeah i’m in my mid 20s and i’m starting to notice the clothes are too young for me. although they definitely don’t fit small now- they unfortunately fallen to the vanity sizing scheme ☹️
Here in the Netherlands it's so hard to find "normal" sizes not even going to start on "larger" ones 🤐
Omgoshhhhhh I’m super disappointed with American Eagle right now! Not only can I not find a size 14/16 in store but the newer styles in my size are different and I have to size up!
I have spent slot of $$$ and once raved about them but I’m an unhappy customer at this point. Thanks for making this video it’s good to know your not the only one who has noticed💕
I have missed these In the fitting room videos! 👕👗👚👖
I typically wear a size 10 in AE and the last 3 times I've been in a store, I've had the same struggle to find my size. My American Eagles have an INSANE amount of 2-6s and then a pretty good amount of larger sizes (16-20s). Also, on the ripped thing - I swear to god that they only carry ripped ones in store. I like to wear AE jeans at work but can't have rips and I've never been able to find non-ripped black jeans in store 🙄
i used to love ae jeans! i actually even worked there for like 2 years and i noticed i we stopped getting in a wide variety of sizes :( the sizing is so inconsistent too! i’m a 16 as well and it’s too tight and the next size up too big
Thanks for making videos like this!!!
I am so excited for monthly try ons!!! I would love to see you try target again!
Thank you, thank you, thank you! I’ve been so disappointed in AE lately and feel validated that it wasn’t just me noticing that they ditched the larger sizes. I’d love more investigating if you can.
I would be curious to see if this translates to Aerie as well. I know they're essentially the same store but I've actually always found the sizes at Aerie to be more size inclusive for whatever reason.
hey girl hey....I'm glad someone brought it up ....
Eye opening for me and nice to know that I'm not going absolutely crazy!! I feel like in the waist I'm an "average" size wearing size 4 but my length is where I vary because I wear an X-Short. But almost all of my jeans are exclusively AE but the jeans I bought a couple years ago are WAYYYY different than my recent purchases.
Definitely noticed this lack of sizing when I went in last, and I'm a 10/12! Even when I shop online my size is ALWAYS out. They're marketing "curvy" jeans and aren't even restocking them for higher sizes. I switched to old navy jeans, and they're okay but I seriously miss the fabric of AE jeans. I need super tight waist and stretchy hip room so their jeggings always fit me really well.
I noticed this happening last year. They had this really really cute plaid skirt. I tried it on the 14 (my usual size) and it was just a bit snug, so I wanted to try on a 16 see which would be better but in store the biggest size they had was 14. I just assumed it was a single store stock thing. Even when I ask the shop staff they looked it up as if there was further sizing, so they clearly didn't know either. Later, I looked online and sure enough 14 was the biggest and then I fell down a rabbit hole, looking at tons of other things and some were only to 12. In Canada it extremely rare to have anything passed a size 12 in store, and AE was the only one with decent quality/price. (old navy is everywhere too but i'm sorry, it's not good quality and anything else that caters to plus size is stupid expensive and ugly) I know that I'm not entitled to have any store cater to me but this does suck when they were and decided to take it all away.
Would love to see a try on at Abercrombie! I’ve had good luck in store with a variety of sizes and their jeans fit amazing!
Yes!!! Part 2 please 🙏
ANOTHER INSIDE THE DRESSING ROOM LETS GOOOOOO
My guess is AE is having trouble keeping larger sizes in stock. It may be, that these larger sizes are more popular, as the average women is a size 16. The pandemic is most likely not helping.... I've noticed lots of stores I shop at out of stock of so many items, food, clothes, crafts :( It would be nice if AE could reach out and let us know what's going on!
I agree! I will say, however, that if 67% of American woman are >= size 14, why would they have 100+ items in a 00 or 0 and not stock more of the 14 and above? They should be taking note of what sizes sell and what sizes sell OUT, and then make more of that. It is so frustrating
I was thinking the same way at first, but this has been happening for a long time. It’s been long enough that they should have had time to adjust their stock to mirror their sales trends if they saw that more of the larger sizes were selling faster than the smaller sizes.
@@carlycontri1778 no idea! I’ve noticed they aren’t good at keeping things stocked. I try and order swim suits but need large tall which are always sold out.
@@dianafox2018 yeah it’s no good if it’s been going on for awhile. I’ve noticed their sizes run small too. Im a 10/12 tall, I never shop there because I’ve found other stores that keep my size in stock! Madewell is awesome.
Okay queen! This video is such a good idea 💝
Ok thank you for posting this video because I definitely noticed this last time I went to AE - it was so hard to even find a size 14! Not to mention that the styles I usually tried suddenly didn't fit anymore even though I'm the same size? So disappointing when brands claim to be "size inclusive" and then do stuff like this. It feels performative.
I had a similar experience at AE recently, I'm a size 14 or 16 in stores and I have a pair of old jeans from AE, skinny jeans that still fit me like a glove, but I went to AE recently and size 14 nope, size 16 nope, I was lucky to find an 18 and they fit, like nothing wrong with that but I definitely think they changed there sizing
YES. This exact thing happened to me as well. It just sucks and makes things so much more difficult for shopping online. In an attempt to avoid the store in person I still had to go back in to do an exchange and try on.
@@jadewagner Shopping online on AE especially for jeans is so difficult and have to be very wary of what I chose to see if it will fit or not, I feel u!😭
I used to buy all of my jeans at AE but trying on clothes there always made me feel really bad about myself because stuff just didn't fit right. I've ended up switching to buying all my jeans from Madewell now. A significant price increase but the jeans are WAY better quality and I never feel out of place shopping there.
Loved this video - I've always had to size up 1 or 2 sizes in American Eagle's jeans, so I'm disappointed to hear they no longer carry larger sizes in stores. Thank you for going through this trauma for us lol. I would love to see you try H&M again because they've expanded their sizing, but recently, I've been having the opposite problem where their sizing is too big, so I end up returning half the things I bought online in my normal size (12/14). However, if they actually carry all these sizes in store, it would be nice to be able to easily pick up a different size if something doesn't fit.
I used to work at AE and the outlet stores have more sizes available. The app is really great for online exclusive sizes now. You’re right it’s hard to find larger sizes in there unless someone makes a return from online. I still wear them to this day and the are really the only brand that jeans last longer than a year for me. I still have jeans from them from 5 years ago still. I’m a size 14-16 now. The jeggings are really the goat from AE. My whole family wears their jeans because I worked there and the discounts.
Recently had a very similar experience in an AE dressing room…was super disappointed and discouraged because it made me feel bad about my size! And I know my body is very average!
It frickin’ makes me angry! They stopped carrying size 24 jeans! My daughter wears that size & it’s total crap! I had to go back to Torrid & Lane Bryant bc they are the only ones that seem to offer them. Why do stores offer extended sizes & then STOP?
It doesn’t make sense, and it hurts and we are forced to shop online ALL the time ~
Old Navy recently rolled out more extended sizing, so that could be an affordable option for her if you're looking for one. They're my go-to for jeans.
Maurice’s has size 24 in many styles and some comparable to American eagle! It’s super frustrating when stores don’t have inclusive sizing :(