The End of Jaguar and Land Rover, What Went Wrong
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- Land Rover and Jaguar review. The End of Jaguar and Land Rover, What Went Wrong, DIY and car review with Scotty Kilmer. Tata has lost billions of dollars on Jaguar and Land Rover and has now merged with a Chinese company, is this the end of both British car brands? Is this the end of Jaguar and Land Rover in the United States? The future of Jaguar and Land Rover car manufacturing. Should I buy a Jaguar? Should I buy a Land Rover? Jaguar / Land Rover car and truck failures. Car advice. DIY car repair with Scotty Kilmer, an auto mechanic for the last 51 years.
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I like your shady front yard
Hey Scotty, can you do a product review on Fixd? Thank you!
Scotty what's your take on the new Toyota Tacoma trucks and are they worth getting
Scotty what do you think about Aston Martin
Do your research Scotty, you would have found out in England they are building a huge new plant as well as a battery producing plant. JLR is going fully electric the new all electric XJ sedan will be the first out of the new plant.
Rev up your Indian Owned Chinese made British automobiles!
Half the crappy ones are Made in England, I think.
Suzuki sells the most cars in India
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LOL
Take that, Top Gear
So in India can you walk into a dealer and say "Let me see your Tata's"?
Johnny J
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Well done, sir. :D
XLNT!
Here in the U.S. you get arrested.
Be careful when you say that because if you pronounce "Tatta" that means "let me see your balls"🤣
TATA owns 100% of JLR, The chinese only own a small share of the Chinese section which is a totally separate company - so get your facts right.
Zack Smith again you know sod all JLR as a company owned but independent did not lump tats with any losses and JLR has funded everything themselves from day one has repaid the purchase price and millions on top the losses they made were not company losses but plant assets and equivalent downgrades which all companies do every few years as equipment wears out etc they loose they value they have made since the downgrade profits every quarter so again stop stirring when there is nothing to say
@@jonmower3680 you truly researched this?
What happens when you produce cars but can't sell them?
Charles Nwachukwu huh only US companies and French companies do that now JLR build to order they have very few cars in compound and those that are there are ones to be exported used for corporate events or finance returns...
I wondered about that too. As familiar as I am with Jaguar/Land Rover, I haven't heard that anyone but Tata has an ownership interest in either one. I've never heard of "Cherry". ?
@@attygarland6909 the law in China states that any and all companies that wish to set up in China, have to do so with the express permission of the Chinese Government and then only if they have a partnership deal with a Chinese company, they all do, from VW, Audi, Ford, PSA, GM, and so on, they are all in partnership with a Chinese motor brand, these are stand alone subsidiaries that should the Chinese have a hissy fit and throw them out, they dont get lumbered with massive costs, Chery is one of the biggest, along with SAIC, BAIC and Geely, that owns 100% of London Taxi, Lotus and Volvo.
I live in England, I've never seen a MG SUV. But I've seen loads of Jags/Landrovers.
because Jags/LR are easy to spot like they always "off the road" at the mechanic
@@doomslayer4276 anything’s better than your Ladas.
Now you've seen them. Come on I'm from Reading and they are everywhere!
@@doomslayer4276 if that helps you sleep then say it
Really? Because i never actually found any Land rover or jaguars
I got a Land Rover with 180,000 miles and I never had a problem with the car and it is very reliable. I love it.
you're the exception, not the norm
Exception indeed!
@@HolyCrusader737 no he is not, we have owned as a family over 50 JLR products over the years and never had any issues with any of them, it is such a shame that stupid comments from one and the sheep just follow, perhaps you should actually check ut reliability of recalls for German, Japanese and US cars, and then come back and say the UK cars are rubbish because the others are far far worse.
@@jonmower3680 japanese cars like toyota, suzuki and honda have the best reliability in the world. do you not know that? and JLR jas scored the least in reliability in almost all tests done for the past 10 years.
@@HolyCrusader737 wrong again, JLR has not been the least reliable brand, far from it, they came 3rd in a Driver Power report not long ago, also i think you have clearly forgotten about the 100,000's of Toyota recalled worldwide because the brakes failed, engines on Honda's failed, Suzuki brakes failed with motoring Journalists, then we have a significant number of Kia and Hyundai models all PULLED for Europe because they failed, then we Audi, the pulled ALL their E-Tron models because they caught fire and BMW's that have significant engine failure, and so on and so on, I suggest you take the time to check your facts and look at governmental recall lists and see how many other brands have issues compared to JLR, you will be surprised at what brands have issues that hide them up.
I used to be a consultant for Jaguar/ Land Rover. I was told by someone high up at Jaguar we were not allowed to look under the hoods because people buy the "quality Jaguar name and service."
Yeah like good customer service is going to make someone feel good after their car just broke down, and ruined their day thanks to poor design.....
Bunch of shmucks
Must be why they wouldn't let me look under the hood at a car-show many years ago. That's OK. Today, I can see all I want to on the ones in the junkyard!
Ha ha ha you are just funny, if you was a former JLR consultant as you claim,were about did you work 😂🤣
Good service requires an ‘honest’ car dealer😂, which are as common as unicorns nowadays. They should maybe build a solid, reliable product instead, rather than relying on ‘good service’ to make up for poor design/reliability.
Nice one. Have you been inside a Jaguar Dealership recently?
My buddy loves Jaguar, but he just leases. By the time the lease is up the car is literally falling apart. He has a ftype now with 5 more months on a 36 month. It clunks and rattles like a 10 year old.
Exactly! Outsmart them at there own game! When you return the car in pieces, due to no fault of your own, THERE PROBLEM!
Liberal Disdain pay for something you'll never own... well ppl are fools
cmiller8492 brother gotta have a car buddy. Are you a born again christian or are you racing for hell fire? God have use free will to be atheists.I rather REPENT AND FOLLOW JESUS CHRIST
@@christianman5093 quit trying to push your religion on people who are not here to listen to your milarcy.
Rather go to hell......heaven will be full of all those bible thumping idiots......loose and fallen women here I come....
Like your style: talking, dancing, and educating at the same time.
You missed the laughs
Educating usually involves things that are actually true, which none of this video was.
The Jaguar E-PACE you kept referring to as “Made in China” is actually made in Austria.
Also, MG are developed in China by SAIC. JLR vehicles are developed by British engineers and designers but are owned by Tata. Not the same
alexaescht correction, The MG ZS suv was engineered and developed at Longbridge in England. Just not built there.
Patrick Hartle I’ve worked with the SAIC Motor UK Tech Centre and they said a lot of it was developed in China
alexaescht parts developed in China yes. The engineering and design was at Longbridge. Hence when the design centre closed last month it was a big thing. As now all new MGs will be Chinese developed and designed.
so much of this video is incorrect... its entertaining though
@@YZJB NO, the ZS and MG3 was designed, developed and engineered in the UK.
I have a 2008 Discovery 3. Snapped a crankshaft. Been expensive to maintain, and I have learned to do a lot of the repairs myself. Im still not interested in driving anything else though.
Rovers are like women, beautiful but a lot of problems
hi maintenance
😂
TRUE
Haaa so true
LMFAO..GOOD ONE😂😂
Most Jags are still made in the UK and a the engines are made in Europe. Test!
SORRY - DUH, the engines are all made in the UK, either at at Fords plant or in JLR's oen engine plant in Wolverhampton, so GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT
it's ALL JUNK!
The factory is literally next door to my house
Unfortunately, us in the UK are also very snobby. So many do actually buy the Jaguar and there are a lot of Range Rovers here too because they have that snob value.
Me, i'll keep my 21 year old Lexus GS300 and Toyota Previa, and probably go for a Lexus RX, or a V8 Lexus next year...
YungGBone124127134 Lamborghini dreams but you still drive a Lexus
I got a 94 gs300 like 4month ago . Already put 11k in it..and I'm loving it . I'm going to use it as it last . The next Target is a gS400 or the second gen 2gjzge.
1988 Chevy celebrity with 370k miles. I'll drive it until it fall apart. then I will be at the pull a part putting it back together.
Aundray Perkins chevys before mid 2000s were well made
My 92 sc400 and 2000 land crusier are completely reliable and have never given me any major issues. Friends with land rovers and Audi’s always had headaches
Jaguars and Land Rovers are actually more reliable today than they were in the 70s to 90s. They're also still made in the UK. I don't agree that British consumers would choose an MG over a Jaguar.
The 2020 defender is built in Slovakia
Asians will buy Jaguars over MG for status .
WOW, HOW DID THIS TYPE OF CRAP SURVIVE?
@@Johnmith626 even tata cars looks way better than a MG car, Jaguar is way ahead than MG
@@Johnmith626 mg is nowhere near jlr
I have a XF and runs smooth as silk with a 0-60 in 5.6 Seconds. With a 3.0 V6 Tata have announced a 100 million investment in Jag and Land Rover. Both are built in England you need to get your facts right. Never heard so much bull
Still unreliable
My family has a 2008 Land Rover LR3 with over 110k miles on it. While there have been things that we needed to get fixed for it from time to time, the way that my mom has driven the car& taken care of it, it has been a very reliable car for our family
I HAD a money pit Jaguar. So glad its gone!
Of course it’s a money pit. You have to change oil and spark plugs. Mine has done 200000 miles. Still feels solid as a tank. Best car I’ve driven and owned.
Sanel Šabanovič Whatcha so upset about, buddy? He only said the Jaguars that are made in England are crappy. You in love with Jaguar? Is that any reason to call someone’s mother a piece of garbage? It’s not a very good way to represent Europe, by being so rude to people making simple comments.
@@christianolssontravels You have to do that on every car. These are just made worse lol
I wouldn't buy one if my life depends on it. I'd rather ride a horse thru the Sahara desert. I'll stick to my salvage yard Chevy celebrity.
Smart move
Jaguar & Land Rover have been “ in name only “ for quite awhile.
Jaguar and Land Rover is still fully owned by Tata Motors Land Rover and Jaguar they have tie up with Chinese brand to make their cars in their company it does not mean the company's 50% is is owned by Chinese
look up the meaning of 50:50 joint venture
@@linbabyfirst it's only for China operations. Not international.
Who cares its still stupid
@ unreliable and breakable
@ the reason is that you love jaguar land rover so much and henceforth you keep imagining something which is absolutely making no sense . This also tells me that you don't know anything on cars. Jaguar land rovers are the most unreliable vechiles according to many users and many people from channels like scotty Kilmer carwow
Can someone find this man a dance partner, or at least let him go to pee.
Yeah i think he drinks a lot of beer. He even slurs when he talks. Haha
I'll have 1/2 ounce of whatever he's on lol
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Hi Dresdin 😊😊
Or maybe make him a one more drink?
When JLR built a factory in China it was a 50/50 investment with cherry . This was just for the Chinese factory not the whole company. When TATA bought JLR in 2008 for a billion dollars their turnover was 3billion with a loss of 700,000 . They seen massive improvements and sales were up to £26 BILLION with a profit of 2-3 billion, that's after investments of around 3billion per year. With Indian investment and British engineering they did fantastic and make great well built cars . They do have reliability problems with certain issues but they are built well and drive well . They arnt the total disaster you make out .
" Little Jeepy Things ".
Scotty just took us to the Harvard Business School.
I loved it when Scotty said "little jeepy things."
Luv it, Scotty, a guy who works out of his backyard shed knows all about Chinese multinational corporation investments.
Needs to be a shirt.
@@ToroBullOne "little jeepy things" with a picture of an original Land Rover underneath it I would wear the hell out of that
The Jaguar land Rover operations in China have a 50% partnership with chery Auto due to the country's protective policies. Same is the case for General Motors which has also for its Chinese operations partnered with a Chinese corporation named SAIC motor.
And GM has not. Made a decent product in close to 10 years. Small cars Chinese, pickups Mexican. Take the U.S. tax dollars and leave the country. Dodge and anything Chrysler is owned by FIAT. Fix It Again Tony. Pickup truck of the year MY ARSE
He said “if they start selling jaguar suv in the states” um 😐 they already do! It’s called the Fpace, Epace, etc
He meant the MG
@@pedrojurado7987 MG will, the new car coming later this year, will be sold in the US, and it will clean up, I have seen the production car (via Zoom) and it is totally stunning, what a sports car should be and an EV with great range, top end poke, and power, this is gonna be a great car, and all cars from the next gen range are being prepared to be USA complaint, they are now in a significant number of countries around the world, and believe me, the US car industry is gonna suffer, Renault, Peugeot, Citroen DS, along with a number of other brands that are currently unable to sell there are coming, and will hit the US sales hard.
My F-Type R is amazing. No issues, yet. My Defender still runs great after 196k miles.
THEYRE ALL JUNK! THE ROVER SPORT HAS CHEAP PLASTIC IN THE ENGINE WATER COOLING JACKETS!
@@TennesseeVolfan The Defender? Here in south america they used in mountains all day... because toyota is expensive as fu*k.
I’ve had two Jag XE’s, put 50,000km on rural Aussie roads on them, and neither has so much as coughed in 6 years. These ignorant morons (Scotty included) write them off, despite the fact they’ve never even sat in one! 🤣🤣🤣 Hey, the joke’s on them! I’ll take my Jag over their shitty Camry or Ford ANY day!
@@TennesseeVolfan They were when Ford owned them
I've worked on jags and rovers before, their electrical is the worse in the universe. Piece of crap.
Try having a 2012 Chevy Equinox
Like BMW
Audis have crappy electric also
Cadillac
I remember being in a friend's new (1992) FIAT Uno, and he said watch this, pressed the cigar lighter and the fuel gauge moved. Had a Jaguar XJ6 TVD for 18 months and the German DPF died again, none of the 'British' electrical items failed. They seemed to be pretty reliable. For the record the Lucus electrics on my old Humber seem to be working fine, not bad for a British peace of crap.
THE WORST car i ever owned was a 2003 Land rover freelander, just crap!!!!
What was wrong with it lol
ibtaba I have a 03 camry that runs great, same tranny and engine praise God.238k miles, hope I die or get raptured and it's still running strong like a dirty thong
@@aersn4locs It had an issue where the engine would over heat for about 2 min randomly, and it had leaky doors. The all-wheel drive was also very weak and it had a hard time going off pavement without shaking the hell out of everything in and out of the vehicle
Who busy that hippo....
it was a ford escape lol
Jaguar, reliable? Since when. Everyone I knew who owned a Jag was always under the hood or was paying obscene prices for maintenance.
@@aliceshaw8265 I had a friend who had one, he was under the hood as often as behind the wheel. It was a wonderful riding car when it was running (I never got to drive it), but you really had to know it.
I heard the ones during the Ford era were ok, because some ran Ford engines and shared a few other Ford parts. Other than that there are a few companies that rebuild them with other engines like the LS and re-do all the electricals. Admittedly the cars do have style, and doing that modification on older ones makes them better than factory.
@@aliceshaw8265 the love affair is a true thing. I'm in the midst of restoring my XJS and working on it really does bring me happiness.
My wife calls it my girlfriend lmao
In the Jaguar XKE days, I new a hands-on mechanic who said that he didn't have any major problems with his early 1960's roadster because he "fixed the little things during the weekend." (He was also of the opinion that Jaguar roadsters are "mechanci's cars.")
From about 94 to 97 and 01 to 03, with the xj 99 to 15 with the xk, 04 to 08 with the s type, and 04 to 08 with the x type
Well I learned something today... Thanks Scotty, love these history lessons!
Maybe you should stop watching this and learn how to parent your children.
My family got a LR4 back in 2012 with a 3.0L twin turbo V6 Diesel engine, we took a lot of long trips in it and surprisingly it never had any problems in the past 7 years! We must have gotten lucky lol
Random guy A diesel engines always last longer
Eze O. And probably because my dad really took good care of it lol. Even the air suspensions are doing great
Even as a teenager working at a gas station in the 90s (we had a full service aisle then) I recognized what messes Jaguars were. Always leaking. The drivers always seemed miserable with their expensive cars.
..."solid built little Jeepy things".... LMAO!
Love it.
This is what I was thinking of commenting about ahaha
But jeeps today are just trashy chrysler
@@louisbarningham No argument there.
@@louisbarningham But that is non-sequitur to the issue at hand....
As a previous Jaguar owner(money pit).. It was time!🎩🥃
SamSon P But the Jaguar V6 sounded godly :(
@@angelgjr1999 You mean the ford v6
Same prob with my 335i. It’s becoming a money pit. Time to switch to Japanese.
Yan Espinosa already did. 2015 accord v6 coupe
SamSon P the only way to go. It’s pretty apparent at this point that Japanese-made cars are the best. The Japanese knows to make their stuff well.
Personally I've owned many Jaguars and Rovers, but all from the 60s and all cars....
I'd never buy a new one, but at least you can fix an old one yourself.
Seriously though
@@go8663 seriously though what? I don't understand what you're saying.....
I think he is agreeing?
@@basiltozer9078 or you're just lazy or incapable or both...🤓
Keith McIntyre in my case I don’t have the time to work on cars anymore. Maybe after retiring I will.
Scotty would hate me. I owned an 1973 Amc Gremlin, 1981 Amc Concord and a 2006 Range Rover Sport. He would be giving me a lecture series.
You are DOOMED.
Kinda sad because range rover velars are beautiful piles of junk
Right. They take your breath away as they are towed down the road.
I 100% agree! I've been saying this for years, they're such beautiful SUV's I'd even go as far as saying best looking on the market. Especially in White. But, I would never even consider buying one. They're awful, especially with the problems with the cylinder sleeves in the engine. Maybe one day they'll be decent
@@brandonplevris Maybe wait 10 years and buy one and put a motor and transmission in it.
Finance baby
You got it right. JUNK.
Hey Scotty, I like how you mix interesting facts with your spark and humor. You are one of a kind, I would had loved to meet you back in the 70's, you must had been a trip.
. . . and a half! :-)
Chinese protectionism laws. You have to go into a joint venture in order to manufacture there. Same for all foreign companies
And at the same time, as the greatest nation in history and only superpower in the world, if we don't bend over and take it from them while they get to do whatever they want with us, we're "starting a trade war".
So glad we have a President with actual genuine balls right now, but I fear for the future when he's gone.
HAL 9000 I agree. Trump is doing great things with China, why do they have the most strict protectionism laws but when we do it in the west or trump does it that’s considered hostile and not presidential. It’s protecting jobs if you ask me
except Tesla recently
Yen Tao I am stating facts that China have done this for years and years, it protects their companies and industries but we have no such things. Tariffs aren’t the same as these protectionist policies, far different. They may be loosening it slightly now but every other German automaker for example would have had to enter a joint venture with a Chinese company. Trump is actually doing something about it, you clearly don’t understand how trade works as you think tariffs make you weak. No. It stops companies from utilising cheaper labour and exporting goods to the US instead of making it there. I’m not a yank so trump being in office doesn’t really matter too much for me but the UK could definitely do with these much needed protections, not necessarily against China but our industries are being taken away. Europe and other countries are taking away jobs and these industries, Eastern Europe is essentially a new form of China in terms of manufacturing, to some degrees one could assume that labour rates are cheaper here now that China has such a fast growing middle class.
@@Horizon301. Well said, friend.
BMW's largest factory in the world is: er, where?
China? Thailand? no.....Right there in the USA. I'm guessing they have confidence in FUTURE quality workmanship thanks to Trump giving the US workers some pride back. (& Let's face it: BMW needs to up its game.)
I agree too with your assessment of the EU-UK relationship: The UK capacity in many sectors has been diminished...DELIBERATELY by EU policies over the last 40+ years.
The referendum was a wake-up call that Westminster is ignoring & has ignored for the duration of the membership.
All too many political fat cats eyeing their seats on the EU gravy-train.
Britain is sick of it, the politicians are not-fit-for-purpose and the rest of Europe is FINALLY waking up to just how big a mess Brussels & the EU is.
Strange how history repeats itself: Europe rolls over, whilst a bankrupt Britain resists and defies the European dictators....appeals for help in stopping the madness.... Ring any bells?
The downturn in JLR sales is mainly attributed to a poor showing in diesel sales and an overall downturn of car sales worldwide. Ford are axing 18,000 jobs worldwide and even the mighty VW are reducing their staff by 5,000, BMW are doing something similar and Honda are closing all of their European factories. JLR have just announced a multi billion £ investment in manufacturing batteries in the UK as well as an extension of their Castle Bromwich factory where the next generation XJ will be made, which will be all electric.
Had a 2002 Jaguar S-Type. Hands down my favorite car I've ever owned. But it was just too expensive to maintain. 🤣 That being said, I would definitely buy another one. Just not as my daily driver anymore. My Honda has never let me down.
The British motor vehicle industry and aviation industry have both self destructed. A shame since Jaguar cars look magnificent
yes in Britain we have people who voted for brexit so voting there own jobs away ....sad
This is what you have left of your country when you have Liberal /Socialist take over your country..1) High Taxes2) decimation of your industry3) less freedom4) Destruction of the family unit4) God is removed 5) no strong values and the value of life goes down 5) socialized medicine 6) realignment or redistribution of wealth 7) destruction of your nations borders.
@@trackrunner11 You forgot total Muslim and African chaos invasion.
@@trackrunner11 Yupp same thing happend with india , nehru was an ardent socialist and that ended up making india atleast 2 decades behind ots competitors because of all that crap and a border dispute in kashmir
@@trackrunner11 and unions. Don't forget those self-serving scum. They helped ruin all industry in the 70's and 80's. Plus stupid Brits buying foreign cars in the first place. The UK hit the self-destruct button on 01/01/1973 when it joined the super state of Catholic nazis.
Everyone swears these cars are the best, Just because they’re expensive.. I’ll take my Toyota any day
Jaguar and Land Rover are both trash. The design of the cars is slick but that is all.
The very old ones were pretty great in their time but that passed decades ago and now they’re milking their old reputation for all it’s worth.
Iroquois Pliskin totally milking it.
mavasquez8301 you’ve probably never driven one because ..well you’re probably poor
@@area.man. YAWN - trash like you talk maybe - our family has owned dozens over teh years and never had any issues with any of them NOT ONE, get your facts right please, if you are comparing second hand cars that are decades old then you will get issues the same as you would with any car in the world, but please stop touting inaccurate rubbish, you look more stupid that you claim to be.
Jaguar, Land Rover, Jeep, Dodge & Chrysler are brands which bear little connection to their former value. As soon as the new owners put imported mechanical components in them and began assembling them offshore the product became tarnished.
A name badge only gets you so far. The substance inside is all wrong.
If there’s no oil under a British car, there’s no oil in it
💀💀💀😂🤣
Thats the damn truth!
That came about because some British cars did not have a rear main seal (Aston Marten) They would sling the oil back in when running but leaked when you shut them off.
Kakakakakaka wtf
LOOOL good one
They have just announced massive investment in their Solihull plant in the U.K. this week. So, that’s hardly the thing you do when you are going to wind down a business.
What went wrong with them?
Everything
I’ve owned my used 2006 Range Rover Supercharged for 4yrs and it’s been great. I brought it with over a hundred thousand miles and I’ve put close to 40,000 miles on it myself 😃.
Wait until you have to replace a major component. It will cost more than the car is worth.
Paul Baker , that’s true but the same is true with any other old vehicle. Also I’m going to keep it forever, but I’ll be getting something else soon to go with it 🤔
Or maybe he never has to replace one by proper maintenance.
I own a jaguar f pace since 2 yrs.. it’s not made in China( uk + Germany).. JLR assembling exist in both India and China to help them sell in Asian markets.
They don’t manufacture them there..
JLR helped TATA make millions in profit until 2018- 2019 started.. TATA is not just cheap car company. Heard of TCS. It is one of the biggest employer in IT industry in USA.
JLR also registered TATAs biggest loss in history of corporate India bcoz of European rules on diesel cars( not reliability) n Chinese markets slow down. Sells in USA are still going higher up.
Also it did register minor quarterly profits in 2019..
Scotty is a poor mechanic, can't own one JLR vehicles, so starts criticizing.
The most reliable cars on the planet are Toyota Lexus and Honda.
Unfortunately they do not drive or handle as well as the European vehicles.
There are sacrifices to be made somewhere I guess
Mr Mysterious handle as well European?? Lol they handle better. Lexus handle great around corners comfortable at high speeds and Honda makes amazing cars around the track. Have you driven an S2000? New civics!? Even their CRV?? My Volkswagen GTI didn’t handle as well these did.
Carlos Aguilar Lexus = Toyota lol
Tim Hanby I know.. did you read the comment I was replying to??
Carlos Aguilar Ah sorry, meant to reply to the green profile picture person. The original comment in the thread. Your comment was good
@@CarlosAguilar-dj4ph LOL, now that is funny, a CRV handles better than a Golf... LOL, i have not laughed as much in ages.
I think you are being unfair to Jaguar, during the Ford period they got high scores on the JD Power reliability rankings and they were generally no worse then Mercedes or BMW. I haven't seen a JD Power ranking since Tata took over. The most modern cars simply aren't reliable, they depend on too many sensors and electronics to make them work reliably, the first two generations of Range Rovers were reliable and long lasting vehicles. I am also quite sure there is a shortage of mechanics experienced in working on Jaguars, Land Rovers and many other imports in the USA. Here in Europe I take my Dodge pickup to a mechanic who specialises in American vehicles (and his father did before him), when I have taken my truck to mechanics who didn't understand American vehicles they usually make mistakes or do something silly, I would be very careful which mechanic I took a Jaguar to in north America.
I am from India.
The build quality of Tata cars is pretty good here in India.
Their SUV, the Tata Nexon, got 5/5 rating on crash safety tests by Global NCAP.
ncap have different scales. if you test the asian ncap or european ncap. it might perform better at that one ncap or worse at the other. I live in the netherlands and here i've only seen a Mahindra from india. they look nice. I bet in the future half of the mass produced cars are chinese. including volvo and jaguar/rover
by cheap car he is talking about Nano and few other ones
I've had two Jaguar XJs (1992 & 2011) and both were reliable and awesome.
2007 and 2004 XJ's, same experience, gas, and oil, ran perfect, a pleasure to drive
I’ve had two Jaguar XKs. An ‘00 XK8 that I sold for the more powerful ‘04 XKR I now have. Both have been a pleasure to drive and have been rock solid.
My buddy has a 2011 XJL, beautiful car. I’ve had the pleasure to drive it...it’s a beast! My favorite car to drive actually if I’m honest 😉
Congrats you got like one of the 2% of the production run that wasn't a lemon!!! Go play the lotto.
Same here. 2000 XKR and 2002 S-Type each now at 1000 miles each and still going strong. Annual operating cost for each has been less than $350.00 per year. Best cars I've ever owned! (Past owned vehicles: Range Rover, Porsche(s), Roll Royce, Fiat)
I’m pretty sure Jaguar sells SUVs here. I just saw an F Pace the other day here in Florida
@Andrew_koala lol except they’re not. They’re in-house aluminium chassis.
I had the misfortune of owning 2 land rovers, 1 defender 1 discovery, both , utter junk, I would never ever buy another land rover product again.
My dads friend has a range rover, he keeps up with the PROPER maintenance, and it has 200k kilometers, no problems.
The maintenance are expensive to keep up with but if you do they will last sometime, if you are looking at a used make sure the owner kept up with maintenance
Nice, which generation is it? And does it have Jaguar's 4.2 supercharged engine?
The 130 that dislike the video either own a jaguar or Land rover lololololo 🤣
Or sell them to insecure upper management types.
Yeah, they own a brand new one.
If only he could pronounce jaguar correctly.
No it lacks accuracy.
Or they know that half of what he just said was inaccurate.
Neighbours got an RR Evoque and a Jaguar F Type at the same time. In the space of a year, the guy tells me between them they'd been at the dealer being fault diagnosed or fixed for 5 weeks. Madness.
_They're fancy piles of garbagé_
Like all American people.
British reliability folks!
@P. Taylor I'm not traying to be funny! That's simple truth.
Most of the world is garbage. Nobody is safe.
Sanel Šabanovič Why all Eu people hate us 😂
i would like to say that my 2008 jaguar XJ8L was the one of the best that i ever owned gets 32 miles a gallon on the free way and have plenty of power to race against a mustang or any other muscle, never had any problem with it, take good care of your car and the car will take care of you.
4.2 jags are very reliable, 4.0 are reliable with chain tensioners, actual owners will attest to this, non owners clamor about the “unreliability” as always
I've got an S-Type and I find it very easy to work on. The only problem is lazy owners who just polish them and ignore servicing. The other problem is the dealer charging $450 to change the spark plugs, answer - do it yourself and that goes for most jobs on the car. Willing to get low down and dirty? If yes then you will enjoy your Jag.
Imagine Toyota taking over Jaguar/ Land Rover & having beautiful reliable Range Rovers.
Nice idea,Alejandro...
But let us ALL remember something here...
The Range Rover was a trailblazer...The FIRST in the world.
..................everything thereafter is merely a modification: A development of an original British Idea. They were cheap too: GBP about 2k, USD4k at that time.
Albeit with a V8 from Buick....In later years, a market sprung up to replace that with a slug-like performing diesel...... because petrol just went through the roof.
At least in the UK.....
And let's get something straight: they were built better than later "Jeeps" with their self-tapping screws holding everything together!
But they needed a whole lot more development than they actually got before launch..... and, as the rest of the world jumped on the SUV bandwagon...they were always one step behind. Why? Investment. Simply. The lack of it.
Just never really happened for Range Rover.
Hindsight.... of course. But isn't most of life?
The Sterling brand of cars were sold in the USA from 1987-91 and made by the Rover Group of the UK. Their cars were based on the Acura (Honda) Legend.
That’s a great idea.
Toyota have had more recalls than most for a myriad of dangerous faults.
Loving the comment about monster and showing a picture of Theresa May, the incumbent Prime Minister of the U.K. BTW her official car is a Jaguar XJ, and her police convoy has a Range Rover in it.
And assorted BMW with assorted ministers riding in them. Never mind Jeremy Corbin will be riding a unicycle and we will not be allowed to drive any fossil fuel vehicles around. Oh hail the Vegan. Hold on I drive a car with a leather interior…
Actually, Special Branch and SO15 still all drive LR4's.
@@fredbrackely Thanks for confirming, they drive so quickly past, it is hard to tell if they are LR's or RR's
Foreign secretary uses a 740li
@@leenevin8451 And then they bang on at Joe public about buying greener cars, while driving around in large cars themselves, we'll I guess that's government for you.
He built his land rover because he loved his jeep so much but couldn't get parts exported to England for it, so he built the series 1
This
I own a J2016 Jaguar F-Type R and a 2015 Jaguar XF. Have been very lucky with them both -- no issues so far. Knock on wood
Hey mate don't worry there will be no issue with ur cars in future because the jags are still strong and relaible and this time scott have really less knowledge about manufacturing of jaguars and range and other brands like TATA and he don't even know that TATA is a very big company
Sorry to say the Jaguar SUV you refer to is the Jaguar E-Pace and is made in Austria. Tata Motor is the G.E. of India and they will not go broke. However they will be able to sell electric cars in India. Tata just has to move production out of the U.K. This is the reason things are not going well. Tata is too committed to keep the brands "British", in today's world every other manufacturer is making cars in India. There is no reason these should be treated differently. Indians are buying them, I see them all over the place in India. And no they do not breakdown, they are complex but are dependable.
One flaw with this video, Jaguar/Land Rover's sold in the U.S. are still made in the U.K.
Owned a 2011 Range Rover Sport. One of the best cars I ever had.
Matt Portnoy
“Owned”, used in a past tense...
5five6 yes, my wife wanted a new car so we traded it in. The LR was surprisingly reliable.
Matt Portnoy
But not for a new LR..
5five6 so what? It doesn’t change the fact that the LR was a great car. My wife liked it but wanted something that wasn’t a luxury car.
Matt Portnoy
Of course...
I had an 86 XJS, the electrical system and 1940's engine were big issues, the V12 was fun, but always leaked a little or from the Rear rope bearing. Windshield wipers didn't auto cancel on shuttoff, and power window switches died every year,
The Valve seats fell into the engine at about 90k miles, so I moved on.
Try a Chinese one
A classic tale of how making a good quality product is far better than a fancy name, just look at the state of Apple these days pretty much everything they release has something wrong with it and they keep trying to crush after market repair which is anti-consumer... no wonder their profits are down.
Oh and money's tighter in Europe because we paying off the deficit and balancing the books, you guys across the pond should do the same the age of the petrodollar seems to be coming to an end :)
I own a 2005 Landrover LR3 I purchased used at 60,000 miles, I have put 250,000 miles so yes that's over 300000 miles. The only major thing that has need replacement is the air suspension which I recently converted to a coil spring. Everything else works like new without major repairs or maintenance required.
You'll be glad to know that the "castle bromwich" jaguar (jlr] plant is now finishing off its petrol cars ,and switching to only making electric cars. They're supposed to be making electric versions of their own designs. God bless "castle bromwich" and all who sail in her !!!.
Castle Bromwich where English is the second language spoken and Urdu reigns supreme.
@@BongWeasle ...indeedy...I keep abreast of the news in brum , I used to live in castle vale right opposite the jaguar plant on the 28/67/966 etc bus route. I've been in states now for 17 years and counting ,and it's sad to see the uk in its current state.
How many dozens of miles will the electric cars go before they fall apart?
Scotty needs to do some more research. The _Rover Group_ was taken over by BMW. Rover were *making profits* and *expanding* with new well designed vehicles in *every* car segment, unlike BMW. BMW, the same size as Rover, being a one dimensional company at the time, needed Rover's expertise on front drive, small hatchbacks and 4x4. BMW ruined Rover.
BMW kept the Mini and its Oxford factory.
John Burns- Sorry but Scottys right about the whole thing. Did you even look it up before commenting?
Colonial revenge or protest, I don't drink black tea on fourth of July. India is taking it to the next level.
The thing is thou Scotty is slightly prejudiced, which happens as a mechanic and really depends on your experiences.
Indeed Land Rover's can be problematic, however the Jaguar XJ's (the ones with the cool taillights) are as reliable as most cars. I've been look into getting one because they are an amazing value, so I have been doing a lot of research and so far I've yet to come across major issues.
@Samantha Anders is he thought? Because for all the other vehicles he had specific examples with pictures. For jaguar there weren't any but rather generalizations. Also I don't work for Jaguar so I'm not trying to cover up anything. I've been doing some research because I was looking into getting a used XJ, and my research simply dose not support his statement.
have you gotten one? they are very reliable yeah, the 4.2s
@@h7pubg haha no life happened and I went back to school. In the meantime I found out about the XE, which is cheaper and lighter and probably the most underrated in top trim
Once I'm done school choices need to be made haha
My uncle has a Rover he bought from an auction that he fixes himself. Let's just say that he gets plenty of practice
People will pay ANYTHING for a brand and plug their ears when someone tells them there's a better options. That's the reason Genesis G90s don't sell well.
And the reason chevys, ford and chryslers sell at all, post about 1978.
Ford killed the quality of Jaguar. The Jaguar cars between the years of 1990-2008 were complete junk. It was said that Ford want to reduce the cost to build the cars but keep the sticker price high. Sounds like Ford.
Complete lie. BS. Ford helped to straighten out the production process and parts sourcing, and succeeded to a large degree. Jag had its best days under Ford.
Yeah without ford, jag wouldn't have made it out of the xj40 generation.
Jag had quality problems long before Ford acquired them. If anything, Ford helped Jag by introducing better production standards and processes.
The X Type was a stab at getting Jag a lower priced car quickly and was bad Ford move. The other things Ford did were big improvements to the other products.
British unions & Labor Govts killed the quality of the Jaguar, for those with short memories.
I owned a 2001 Jaguar XKR for a few years. I loved that car but it broke down so much that I ended up trading in for a Lexus. No issues with leased Lexus cars so far. Lesson learned the hard way.
Back in 1969 I bought a new willow green Jag XKE and I found the car unrealiable. It was in the shop as often as I got to drive it. The problem that they never solved was that when I drove the car at night with the headlights and air conditioning on it would discharge. I drove it for about 2 years and only put 12k miles on it, when I traded it in because of its issues.
Land Rover died once they started making their curvey, non-safari Range Rovers. The defender was the OG.
All curvey models are just polished turds
New defender coming out soon tho
@@charliecollings2295 when? I thought they stopped production on the defender series
Unforeseen Truth so did I! It had the new car black and white camo on it unfortunately when I first saw it at the FOS at Goodwood this year so didn’t get a good look but I’m hopeful.
@@charliecollings2295 if it makes a return I hope its as good as its predecessors and not the modern junk being shoved out
Makes me love my 95 XJS I6 even more.
I have had several Jags and other than 1984 xj6 none has fallen apart . My 1996 xj6 has 150,000 miles and still going strong and has proven utterly reliable.
Whilst Ford introduced capital to the company they also had an adverse affect on quality of some components not only with Jaguar but also with Volvo.
A more balanced account please Scotty
^ bitter imbecile
Your talking about jags made over 20 years ago. nowadays its a well known fact they are the worst manufacturer on a quality stand point.
Some people do say Jaguar getting rid of their inline 6 was the start of their decline.
David Martin According to Auto Express Driver Power satisfaction survey the Jag XF was recorded as having the second highest reliability score overall and highest in its category.(2008-2015).
Part of the enjoyment in motoring is variety and I hope we don’t end up like some failed soviet state all driving the same mundane vehicles .
My sister works for a company that handles the warranties for all automakers. She has warned me and many other people, "Do not buy Land Rover or Jaguar!" They have drifted away from quality & reliability. If you bought one and have had no issues....you are seriously lucky.....KEEP IT.
The X351 XJ is a very reliable car. I bought one, 4 years old, with 40k mileage. Ran it for 3 years, had no problems what-so-ever.
As the for the SUV's, you can't really compare the E-Pace to that MG crap - they have no dealer network to support their cars, hence the price.
I am an Indian. Man this was one hilarious presentation. I cannot stop laughing. Thanks.
Why would you buy a car that's twice the price because its made in the same country as the other...?
Why would you buy a 200,000 house that's built in the same country as one that's 100, 000...? Because it is different?
You know the joke? "If you wanna drive to the jungle buy a Landrover. If you wanna drive to the jungle and come back buy a Landcruiser!
You know a truth? In my Country people drive a land rover through rocks faster than your drive in a highway and they are still coming back
@@eaStudioHD It's just a joke because landrovers (the younger ones) aren't so reliable while the Toyota landcruiser is very reliable. No wonder you see them everywhere in Africa!
@@eaStudioHD so did the rock break or the Rover? Rock is pretty hard
You see them everywhere in Africa because LR , as a consequence of production capability, LR are a premium product to keep supply low and prices higher. Toyota make many 1000's perhaps 100' 000's more and thus are cheaper ... People who can afford it in Africa will still drive Land Rover.
@@eaStudioHD and you tell us your dreams.
Scotty made a video bashing BMW's. We own Mercedes- BMW- and are purchasing a Super Charged Range Rover- because we can. The vehicles have the capabilities- looks and features we need. We do most repairs in house- so who cares?
0:42 never thought I’d hear the word reliable when talking about Jaguar...
YOU WONT, THEYRE ALL JUNK! THE ROVER SPORT HAS CHEAP PLASTIC IN THE ENGINE WATER COOLING JACKETS!
Jagwire? Jag you rrrr!!!! They still build jags/Landrovers in the UK. We build the Discovery sport and the Range Rover Evoke at the Liverpool Halewood Factory. The Cars for the China Market are also built in Halewood, but are dismantled once complete and shipped in pieces to China.
The Hybrid cars will start to be built some time this year.
Land Rover defender 90 was one of the greatest all road vehicle ever made!!
Finally one smart comment.
Fancy Powers I saw that in the movie Born Free with Dame Virginia McKenna as Joy Adamson who took care of an orphaned lioness named Elsa. also Wild Kingdom with Marlon Perkins.
Dude- not sure where you get your facts. Jaguars small suv is made in Austria. The midsize one is made in England.
richard h - I guess he got it from here....It was officially revealed on 13 July 2017 and was the 2nd production Jaguar SUV. The car is built in Graz, Austria, by Magna Steyr and from 2018 is also scheduled to be built by Chery Jaguar Land Rover, JLR's joint venture with partner Chery, in Changshu, China.
Beno , are all LR & Jag going to be built there in China 🇨🇳 ???🤔
Beno Surely built in China for the Chinese/Far East market so of no interest to us.
Idk why people hate range rovers
My dad owns a 2014 Sport Supercharged and it's been intact ever since he bought it
Rn it's at 65k miles and it's never gone to a garage for errors
I'd say it all depends on the driver.
Had a Landrover for 12 years. Few problems just the usual maintenance,brakes etc. Change the fluids etc and theyre fine. If you cant afford to maintain the car dont buy it.
All the new cars are trash i say keep the old cars and put new parts in them thank you
Agree. Im keeping my old astra as long as i possibly can
@@nov3019892008 im with you on that i got 92 max and a 2000 jeep still driving strong
@@raymonds5069 Not Exactly true, the South Koreans (Except GM) are making quite decent reliable cars for the price you pay.
@@fransdebruijn6763 im sorry man all new cars are made cheep and poorly and they fall apart after 10 years
@@nov3019892008 i have an astra g still runs strong since 2002 burns a bit of oil but it's been like that for years and it never gave me a problem
I saw a MG SUV in London a couple of days ago, I couldn't believe my eyes
Did it look like someone had beat it with the ugly stick?
@@cebudave It just looked like a generic SUV with a MG badge on it. I was very confused and kept staring at the badge
@Honest John That's an honest review
Lol I saw this video coming. Got a used Jaguar XF 2009 and its not as bad as the newer ones, Horrible gas mileage, beautiful interior/exterior, Powerful engine and lots of Electrical Faults but nothing major. Still worth it for me though regardless I've always wanted to own one and just happens to be my first car. I honestly advise anyone looking to buy a Jag to buy one from 2009-2012 anything above those years will break down before your next oil change lol. You're better off leasing fellas. Thanks Scotty for the video. I'll keep on baby-ing my Jag for as long as I can.
Idk if u are american or not but lets face it
Even scotty already said whats the problem of americans. They are lazy, they dont do maintance, they dont change oil. They just put gas and drive. They dont even wash their cars regularly from what i have seen... thats why they all rotten lol
Most of the brands they say suck, i see those cars here in europe with 20 more years running like clocks
Some over 500k KM, some near 1 million... they all still here.
VW, Fiat, Audi, ford, jaguar, citroen, renault, jeep, alfa romeu, mini, Seat, peugeot
u see cars of all age and all milleages here in europe...
And i live in portugal, belive me, we are poor. We cant keep cars that are unreliable.
@@Deathfg Haha i'm Nigerian and that's so true. A lot of the people I see at Oil Change Shops, Mechanic Shops, pr Car Wash are mostly Immigrants with an European car. From my experience with the Jaguar I just recently bought and have been driving for over 2 months now at over 150,000, I can honestly say that it doesn't feel like a 10yr old car at all. Lucky for me the previous owners were Older men and older used it for long trips outta the city. Mechanically its great as i keep on doing interval servicing. Electrically, there are issue but nothing major like just sensors tripping off for no reason example TPMS and ABS, they still work but dealer wants to charge the world to replace the sensors. Doesn't mean the car should be thrown away tho lol
In 2006 the Triumph motorcycle factory caught fire. They were importing most of the motorcycle components from Thailand. After the fire Triumph decided that instead of re-building the factory in Britain they would re-build the factory in Thailand and import the whole motorcycle manufactured from there, and so they did. The last English built Triumph Bonneville was the 2006 model.
I see that Harley-Davidson is also getting some of there large capacity motorcycles made in Thailand as well. The Thailand made motorcycles seem to go well enough and are a quality product, but if you want an English made Triumph or a Harley that is made in America then Asia is where they are coming from. So far in 2019 Harley have closed down 2 of there manufacturing plants in the USA.
Tripe! Triumph motor cycles are made in the UK.
Some in depth research there! "Jagwar" was started "a long time ago". So long ago most Americans have clearly forgotten how to pronounce it properly. It's pronounced Jag-u-ar, just like its spelt !
Autos Y Cultura Yet Ford for example have used the animal inspired names of Mustang, Falcon, Bronco. What's in a name?