Understanding Comes First, Understanding Is Absolute
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.ค. 2024
- 0:00 Views on body sensations, tensions
3:04 Is enlightenment a process?
13:37 Consciousness is not nothing
24:05 There isn't an equal sign between consciousness and words
27:22 Questions about yoga
40:22 I suffer because things are happening, and I don't know why
45:16 Just reading the Ashtavakra Gita I feel my system settles down
50:34 Money
56:15 Discussion on J. Krishnamurti
denial of existing traditions
lacking the power of the mantra
1:04:02 Anesthesia
1:10:06 Gap between two events
1:22:25 Silent transmission
1:26:05 Flavors of consciousness
1:29:05 Consciousness perceives through all bodies
1:32:02 Experimenting being everywhere and nowhere
1:36:00 Focus on understanding rather than meditating
Related dialogue: The Transcendent Power of Sharing Understanding • Video
(From Temecula dialogue with Francis Lucille 2019 04 20)
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Anything that comes out from Francis's moith is PURE WISDOM!!!!! MUCH LOVE TO YOU FRANCIS and your Team!!!! Thank you I love you Francis!!!
That first boy was me this one is not young or that gender but he was able to create the questions to receive the answer that i now can hear clearly. i am grateful to this recording.
The first guy was brilliant in his sincerity
first guy really helped me with his questions... his resilience and attitude is amazing, thank you.
The security camera analogy!!
The whole dialogue!
No editing...BRILLIANT.
*Very clear and compassionate pointing to the truth ... helping seekers at their level of understanding.Thank you Francis*
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Hearing Francis speak to the young guy at the beginning was helpful to me because it solidified my growing understanding. Francis's explanations, and especially that security camera analogy, brought even more clarity!
I love the way Francis Lucille speaks...I am addicted. Thank you and all who taught you....Shanti Shanti Shanti!
Beautiful , thank you so much Francis , Lots of love and immense gratitude
Such a very sweet satsang, with all the shining love and Divinity and the peace that can break the human heart and reconstruct it once again... ahhhhhh
Beautiful the first boy... Confused but so natural, inocent and simple. Thank you!
Absolutely brilliant! A true master responses a question according to level of a seeker.
That was exactly how I felt when I was watching Jaykrishnamurti..it was very very tough to grasp what he meant. Still I can barely understand 40% of what he says. Master Francis’s clarity is beyond comparison to anyone. Thank you so much for your valuable teachings. Until I found Rupert and you I only had the teachings of masters who passed away but to have you as a living god is my greatest achievement. One day I will meet you. Thanks again.
Clearly pointed. Thank you, Francis!
What a nice surprise, the yesterday whole dialogue, wonderful Thank you !
The pointing's to Truth, Beauty, Wisdom & Intelligence in Francis Dialogues go to the heart of our True Nature.
Always fresh and comes across as a Living Truth.
Simple, honnête et direct! Thanks you Françis. (Un petit montrélais)
Sharp reasoning! But I agree with the first man. Logically I understand the falsity of the belief but I still find myself going back to the old habit of the false belief.
8:50 - "The location of the camera doesn't imply that the viewer is localized at the same place."
Brilliant!
Amazing om shanti
Thank You very much for sharing 🌷
Thank you Francis
So real.Francis understands the guys questions at a deep level.
How Beautiful and simple
Thanks so much.
To understand that “I” , cannot be located in space or identified as a “someone” , or a “something”………. is to realise that “what I am looking for, is what I am looking from” !!! ❤
Thank you🙏🏻
👍 Thank you! 💋
Thank you!
Very nice. Yes there is zero evidence that I am dependent on my body.
Krishnamurti had a very Advanced understanding of how worthless are historical knowledge is and especially are religions and how crap they are. Unfortunately his Viewpoint isn't shared by many especially in the western Society where we've been brainwashed from birth
That was quick
33.30 or just realizes one's unity with the entire existence.
58.57 so well said about J.Krishnamurti.
1.39.36 So well said! Thanks Francis!!!!!!
Before Guru eat sleep and die . after Guru eat sleep and die. Krishnamurti had a advanced understanding of how worthless all of our religious history is and how gurus today have turned it into a business to make money just like everybody else especially the character in this video.
@@SheikhN-bible-syndrome and what was krishnamurti doing with his life? Living off the comforts provided by a bunch of women besotted by eastern spirituality. Being patronizing towards that which launched him. Drawing all the previliges of a guru at the same denying being one, gloating about being different from others while not actually being so....
@@owl6218 true infact the organization that raised him was started my Ledbeatter for the purpose of being shut down by krishnamurthy inorder to make him seem selfless and become the "world teacher" because had he "exepted the job" as world teacher he would of been rejected for being arrogant/ Tech
It was quite the long detailed plan the theosophical Society had planned out my hats off to them on that one
@@SheikhN-bible-syndrome he was launched by the theosophical society which believed in all kinds of stuff krishnamurti came to denounce.but he never had the spine to walk out of it and work for his living.the women he dallied with came to him only because they saw him as a guru, eventhough he kept denouncing guruhood. Not wearing orange does not make one a no guru, either
@@owl6218 exactly somebody was still paying for his food and clothes even though he "never worked a day in his life" as he said . It's all part of there plan
There’s still a stretch between Ignorance is Bliss and Knowing is Anand(a). I assume the first is more vulnerable to circumstances, but they are after all the same spewed
That first guy was obviously very confused. It seems to me he is trying very hard to wrap his mind around the concepts that you normally present. His foremost issue seemed to be reconciling what he has been conditioned to believe about the body with the experiential understand that you present. I wonder if it would have been helpful to simply direct him to see the body is an appearance to whatever is witnessing. I think that would have cleared up his restlessness a bit, but I might be wrong.
Also, I know that in a group setting it probably isn't appropriate to hold a conversation with one person for too long, but this one seemed to end rather abruptly. I would have liked to see him understand a bit more.
Just so that this comment isn't entirely criticism, I would like to say thank you for your work. I recently finished the Perfume of Silence, and it was wonderfully clear as well as helpful.
He might understand more by simply being there and also listening to other peoples q&a’s. People come to these meetings from different starting places.
Too much interest in what others bring to or take away from satsang seems rather pointless. It is all about you ultimately. Not the you as in “you versus the other”, but YOU
I found his questions and FL responses perfect. It happened exactly as it had to happen.
You are right and also wrong at the same time. There is nothing wrong with the young man being there with different aged people it is because god has made a call. Seeking for the truth (Satsang) is the only place where God doesn’t discriminate age, sex, race etc. Do not mix up my word discrimination with racism. The great Indian sage Ramana Maharshi had a spontaneous realization at the age of 16. We are listening about the truth that is timeless, ageless and dimensionless. The audience enjoyed the answers of his long list of questions as much as he did. In fact if you pay attention a lot other questions we’re simultaneously answered. The mater wasn’t annoyed even a bit. I am very happy for him. The goal is not to have questions. Thank you.
Observo con desolación que ya no subís los videos con traducción o subtitulos en español.
Por favor , intentadlo que me gustaría tanto entenderlo 🙏
Wonder where the first guy is now xD. You can tell Francis was amused by his innocence.
Nde rseach has already shown that consciousness survives the death of body
I am localized in my body because I cannot move a tree or move a building. But yes I can move parts of my body, see the World from my eyes and not from other point of view, etc.
It's not you that moves the body. You just claim what the body is doing as actions performed by you. If the body became paralyzed, you wouldn't be able to move it either just like the tree.
@@Nocomment1 If I was paralyzed, I would still feel that I see the world from "my eyes" localized in my head. Also even if I claim that I do the actions, who cares? If someone will cut your hand, you will shout and feel that some part from your localized view is disconnected and you will feel it. You won't claim that "this is not me and I am just claiming that this me"! Claiming that I am not in my localized body is just an hypothesis/philosophy.
some young people are so confused... takes a lot of patience to run one of these satsangs. Thank you so much for sharing.
In that case then.. everything is God .. everything is consciousness.
"I am conscious" is a falsity. The concept of "I" separate from objects is itself a concept. Yes, you need to understand who it is that is conscious when you get asked the question 'Are you conscious?'. It's not self-evident. The answer to who is conscious, is that there is no such thing as an actor entity (subject) opposed to the acted entity (object). They are **gasp** one!
Who is conscious? I am.
I am aware of objects.
Allow me to tell you: "you are stupid, you are missing the point."
Is there an 'actor entity' (subject) right here and now, in you, distracted from happiness?
WIth Love (-;
There is zero evidence
that I which is reading this words is limited, localized, or dependent upon anything else
There is an absolute absence of evidence of a reality separate from the experience that it experiences. That's where Francis is wrong, and why this likable young man is confused.
+Theodore Yiannopoulos, where did Francis say that reality is separate from experiencing?
Idiot. What makes you think you could possibly know more than Francis. Unbelievable.
@@franskromhout9409 such rage, i bring you back with this comment into this comment section to see if account is still active of course so I hope laughter will be response to this fading ghost of your past self reaction
3:04 Just answer the damn question, Francis. It's so cliched to say "I'm not enlightened." So why am I listening to you?
Hopefully because what is said makes sense to you!
Looks like the same group that show up at swingers parties. 🧟♂️😩😭🤢😱