Note: Aluminum has been shown to be cheaper than steel to repair. Additional Note: Steel transfers the energy whereas the Aluminum absorbs. I'll take the "Kmart" Ford over steel.
Not really. It's a large step forward in safety, for the occupants of both vehicles. The 2014 rear ending the 2015 was rather violent compaired to the 2015 rear ending the 2014.
+kolby4078 true ever one knew this anyway. the reason ford did this with the 2015 was to sofin up the blow. the more stiff the impact the more messed up you will be in a wreck. they made the cock pit super strong and it has already been tested and proven.
In both cases, you're looking at replacing the front headlight, and fender assemblies. The only difference is that in the 2016, you also have to get a plastic trim piece that goes around the headlight
+Prince Broly Yep, less damage to the vehicle and the cost to repair any damage is ultimately about half the price compared to the cost of repairing aluminum.
Robert Kavanagh The tools used must be separate from any used to repair steel to avoid causing corrosion in the aluminum.. There are also tools specifically designed to repair aluminum vs steel because of the lack of 'memory' in the metal and it's thermodynamic properties vs steel.. Technicians without skill and experience in aluminum repair risk causing damage to the metal beyond repair. You can fuck around and do the job with the wrong tools if you want to wing it and/or have someone without proper training work on it but there are standards for a reason. That is aside from the fact that replacement parts cost on average 50% more than the same parts made of steel would cost.
Safety wise, the 2015 version is more damaged due to the fact that it is hit in a crumple zone which is designed to reduce the impact of a crash. This will cost more but in fact is safer compared to the 2014 version has the occupants feel much more of the impact. If you want to keep repair costs down go with the 2014, if you want a lighter but safer pick-up, go with the 2015 version. The 2015 version also includes side airbags and ABS are standard with many other features available at request. So safety wise, the 2015 F-150 is better despite what the video above shows as it only takes in account the repair costs. - From an unbiased person living in the UK with no love for the F-150 ;) , just facts.
+amanoncrack Yeah you're right about that, especially with those massive diesel/petrol V8s. I'd find it hard to inagine a Ford F-150 on the roads of London, it would probably be around the size of a single decker bus. Only people who buy pickups here in the UK would be builders or farmers. Its usually the Nissan Navara or Ford Ranger but they're tiny compared to a Silverado or any other American pickup truck. They must be really good for hauling stuff around and towing. I wouldn't mind one myself If I lived in the countryside.
***** Yes, I watched the video...but your comment doesn't mean anything. You assume it's better based on what you have seen, but it doesn't really work like that. Appearances can be deceiving. The outer body panels are designed to crumple in a collision. Will it cost more to repair from a low speed collision such as this compared to a steel body? Yes, probably, for now anyways. But there are still advantages.. lighter weight being the biggest one. ...which equates to better fuel economy and higher payload.
+William S The video is about collision damage...not fuel economy or anything else you named which means your comment is just as irrelevant if not more...Its better when it comes to collisions...I'm more into Silverado trucks though so if you say so
@@komodobricks STEEL vehicles also have crumple zones.... The ALUMINUM 2015 F150 supercab kills the driver in the small overlap. Then the frame structure was redesigned for 2016.
I was in an actual crash like this but was hit at a higher speed. A Dodge 1500 truck rear ended my 2010 F150 FX4 while I was at a stop light and that driver was texting, she didn’t even hit her brakes until just before the impact (50 kmh zone) and tried to swerve at the last second. Impact wise the driver seat protected me well and I wasn’t injured, the right side of my rear bumper, truck box and taillight had to be replaced. The body shop insurance claim came in around $10,000.
Keyshawn Russell All Cars must be tested... search on TH-cam: - NHTSA Oblique Crash or - IIHS Small Overlap they are the 2 Hardest Tests all Cars have to go through, the Small Overlap Crashes cars agaibst a wall at 40mph with 25% of the Nose, whereas the Oblique Crash Test, which is just being introduced, crashes a 5500lb Cart running at 56mph against the Nose of a Car parked at a 15 degrees Angle ... you'll be impressed to see what the results are
Everyone on here must be insurance appraisers or body shop workers. I worked at a body shop for 2 years and worked on high-end vehicles often built with aluminum or other composite material, so I can shed light on this. I don't see how the aluminum didn't hold up as well as the steel. Both trucks would need the same amount of new parts. In the front crashes, both trucks would need a new headlight, fender, hood, bumper and probably quite a few parts behind the bodywork. In the rear, both trucks would need a new taillight, bedside, tailgate and bumper. I really don't see how the repair costs could be 25% more with aluminum here, because panels on the aluminum body are riveted not welded so they are much easier to replace. Yes, in this video, the aluminum appears to have flexed more than the steel, but who gives a shit? The same amount of panels will need to be replaced on both trucks, so who cares how the panel reacted? The idea of the way the new aluminum F-150 is built is the ease of replacing panels. Yes, the parts are more expensive right now, but the labour required to replace the panel rather than trying to repair it should offset the cost of the part. That's the problem I have with Edmunds' test when they slammed a sledge into the side of their 2015. The body shop tried to repair the panel when it would've been easier and exponentially cheaper to replace the panel. Either way, I'm not really concerned. I upgraded from my 2013 F-150 to a 2015 F-150 and my insurance went down even though my new truck has a $10,000 higher sticker price than my 2013.
so youre saying that the steel one in this video could be fixed with just a new headlight? do you really think everything will fit just like it was before? you will have to replace panels on both
As well has Aluminium will survive better against Snow and water. It will not rust. Over all, without any accident, your Aluminium Ford-150 will last way longer visually than the steel.
for those people saying "cars crumple to save your life" The steel version of the f150 has the crumple feature but the new F150 was almost totaled at 10 mph, nobody gets whiplash at that speed anyway
Just because the steel body f150 looks less damaged, it doesn't mean it'll be less costly to fix. A bent hood needs replacement as much as a balled up crumpled hood.
Steel is heavier and stronger so that there is less damage, sure. But aluminium is lighter and less resistant and crumples more to allow for a softer impact therefore making the occupants safer in case of a crash.
LOL at all of the idiots here dissing aluminum. It doesn't have much to do with the material, it has everything to do with build quality. Numerous sturdy aluminum vehicles have been made in the past.
People are missing the point. The aluminum body helps you not be affected by the hit, meanwhile the steel rocks the cab. You see how the cab barley moves on the 2015 but on the 2011-14 it shakes. It's all about safety.... and long lasting strength. Aluminum is strong, but not hard.
Do you seriously thinking people care enough about their safety? I mean LESS MONEY=BETTER PRODUCT, they forget to add their hospital bills into the equation 😂
I just recently purchased a 2014 f150 fx4, and I knew it was a steel body. I thought the aluminum body was newer than 2015, though. Boy, did I luck out on that one. From everything I've read, the fuel economy increase is negligible as well.
+geese Just about. Vehicles are getting closer to disposable. Pay $50K for a truck and send it to the junkyard because you bumped into something. No body repair is as good as new, so avoiding those types of repairs are ideal.
A glancing blow at 15 miles an hour. Wow. At least now they know now to strengthen the Headlights. That was a very informative test. Repair cost probably cost more than the test. If you're going to test two trucks, do it right. Head on
Kinda biased as the Aluminum versions bumper was just slightly lower placing all the force on the front panel and face. The steel version's bumper is a touch higher as you can see the initial contact deflect off the bumper first.
So glad my brother got a 2013 instead of something newer. I’d like if they would offer a steel variant on the ford trucks so that people who want to use them won’t worry as much about crashes.
skilashi21 What is your point? You know, all the flashy stuff on the outside is designed to absorb impacts... it's the cab/cabin that's important. Why don't you go cry about the fiberglass/plastic fenders on almost every dually, Saturn vehicles, Corvettes, etc. etc.?
Don't look at the impact zone as your irrefutable proof.. the newer F150's passengers are safe and didn't feel as much of the impact as compared to those in the steel body.
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I got a 2014 Ford F-150 3.5l twin turbo and its been amazing, test drove the 2015 and still chose 2014.
My dad owned a 2014 Ford F-150 Lariat, and rolled it over at 60mph a few years back.. completely totaled it. Had it been a new one I’m not sure if I would still have him🙏
The bumpers did not hit dead center. That's why both truck took considerable damage above. But steel bumpers, while rare now, those are the thicker metal 1980s and before large American cars had, so in minor collisions, repair costs are minimal.
It was just a plastic parts that broke for the 2015. Also if you notice the bumper on the 2015 just came right down where the 2014 just stayed up which helped with the damage control
I understand why automanufatures design vehicles to have crumple zones to absorb energy from a impact but what should be a fender bender in the parking lot shouldn't total or car or truck...
Still rather have the higher damage. My deductible won’t change lol. Much rather have the vehicle crumble and absorb the impact, exactly as it’s designed to do. Steel cars at 10-15 can still cause some decent injuries. Notice it just pushed it out of the way instead of letting in go “through” it.
I'm glad i watched this. I'm struggling eith a decision to buy a 2014 or a 15/16 f150. I like the 14 exterior but the 15/16 tech and interior. I'll have to go with quality though. I'm not paying top dollar for a truck to crumble like that aluminum body did. Wow! 2014 it is. I think ford will go back to steel soon. I work for a place that buys about 300 fords a year and administrators are not happy about the repair cost of the aluminum fords
The newer F-150 did just as good. Everyone saying it did poorly but it didn't. The 2014 F-150s hood is still impacted after the accident. And the fender and light still need to be replaced.
I have heard a couple stories of the new 2015's hitting moose in northern ontario. Apparently there is not very much left after that happens when compared to those who hit one with their steel bodied variants.
Repair costs are going to go down in the next few years, and Chevy is going to go with aluminum in 4-5 years or so. (I'd bet they'd claim that they did it first.)
The lighter the vehicle is, the more violent it will be in a crash, I don't know what the weight of either of these, but notice how when the 15 hit the 14 the 14 barely moved, but when the 14 hit the 15 the 15 moved a lot. The heavier steel body will be less impact because it will move the other vehicle more instead of stopping you faster. I also saw a few comments about corrosion, aluminum doesn't rust it just dissolves. If you have ever tried to get aluminum red hot like steel you know what I mean. It will do basically the same thing, so it will be interesting to see what happens, if it will "rust" faster, or if Ford figured something out to slow the rust.
People saying "the car crumbles so you don't get hurt" get on my damn nerves. I would rather a TRUCK be able to take a low speed crash with little to no damage. My 80s steel suburban may not be safe for me if it hits another 80s steel truck, but if it hits a 2015 f150, you can bet your ass that pretty f150 will be undrivable... Ask me how I know lol the mans suspension gave in
I'm a vehicle physical damage appraiser and could have told you it will cost a lot more to repair the aluminum body because shops have to be aluminum repair certified and charge a lot more to repair aluminum.......you didn't have to destroy two perfectly good trucks.
Well gm & chevy going to alum next couple yrs. dodge been using alum hoods on there pick ups.ford always been one step ahead for many yrs. others try to copy!!
That’s disheartening as an owner of a 2015 f150, but I CAN say, I have in fact rear ended an SUV at roughly 10mph, and I suffered nothing but very minor dents to the lowest part of my bumper and license plate... nothing else
+Hayden Medgyesy lol, I'm a Ford guy, but we get 2015-16 F-150's in the shop that have gotten in wrecks, and the way they are constructed now, you can't bang out the dents anymore, so we have to replace the whole quater panel which ends up costing the customer way more than it should to fix a dent. Any decent crash, and the new F-150 will total pretty easily. It's a truck, and I should be able to treat it as such. The F-150 is fragile now. It's like a coke can. It really is a shame. If it weren't for the aluminum I'd still be looking at Fords.
J W do you want The Aluminum To crumble on your face, or have steel have dents on your face, And say this: Aluminum Is Much more expensive than the steel
gotta remember 2015 was the beginning of the newest gen and there's always kinks. but they've been fixing it and making more durable we'll see how much better it is when the 18 f150 comes out. but my old 99 Taurus took a cement block to the mouth at 35 and only got a dent
Just remember a very rigid vehicle (the older cor F150) Isnt as safe though i think its safer when some crashes into you or you want to kill someones car but if you hit someone or crash the passengers and driver will be more injured unlike the aliuminum where the Truck's panels or parts crumbles it absorbs the inpact much better and i believe the cabin is a stronger material than the outer area. Edit: Jeez so many people are either dumb or dont know much about cars
you're right they should have been at 35mph. that would have been real world crash test. I don't think they wanted to show what would happen to an aluminum ford at that scenario.
I like how newer f150 had more softer impact. I would worry more about drivers/people inside it just smoothly impacted, everything else is insurance problem even if its 25% more repair. I noticed older had stiffer impact and the neck of that driver is now hurting
I'm confused??? You have the front, which is visually a weaker section on both- colliding into a virtually 90deg reinforced corner on the back (not designed for impact like the front corners). What kind of engineer thought this was a positive result??
Vehicles are designed with crumple zones to minimize impact to the driver and passengers, but they also should be able to withstand a stronger impact than that with minimal damage. That thing crushed like a soda can
I have an 04 steel body f150 i was tboned by a chick pulling out of a gas station, she was probly doing around 20 mph & she hit my drivers side door as i was going straight when she hit she completley bounced 180° in the other direction, my door was bent up pretty good but my window still goes down 🤣 tis but a scratch
A lot of comments to read through. But I didn't see anyone addressing any statistics on crash speeds most likely to occur nor at what speed would you have to be going in a single car accident and insurance would total your brand new $48k vehicle. Obviously these insurance factors get spread across all policy holders. Such as high speed crash survivors cost way more in medical bills than a dead person. The insurance companies are a casino. They don't care cause they don't loose over time. Every time you buy a new vehicle watch how your rates jack up.
The aluminum trucks may crumple more but they actually received a higher safety rating. In the end, it's not about keeping the vehicle intact, it's about keeping the driver and passengers safe. The more of the vehicle crumples, the better, because its taking the impact rather than the person taking it. And the F-150 is the safest out there when it comes to pickup trucks. Ram, GM, and Toyota don't come close, although the newer body style Rams are better than the older ones.
Daniel Bell Nothing's confirmed, they simply said they were investing in there aluminum plants. GM just built an all aluminum ct6 doesn't meen it was for the Silverado. But anything is possible.
My steel body 2014 tundra took the mirror, front fender, headlight and grille off of a 16 f150. Repairs to my truck took 5 min. Bumper corner pushed in. His truck left on a flatbed. Ill stick with steel bodies
Aluminum is softer than steel and this proves it. It’s not as safe and easier to be destroyed. It’s also not as strong and melts faster. *Story about how I know this:* When I got in an accident with my 2019 F-150 King Ranch it was super bad. I had t-boned someone going 70mph after they ran a redlight and pulled out onto the highway to make a left and I didn’t see them in time and slammed into them. My door got stuck and I was stuck in my truck. I was hurting so badly. And then my truck burst into flames and I’m stuck in the truck. I was so scared. And since it was aluminum it melts way faster. So it melted so much that by the time people got me out of the truck that the fire had starting melting the gauge cluster and infotainment screen and steering wheel. So it went through the fire wall and started melting the dashboard. Steel wouldn’t have melted as quickly. I only got minor burns to my right foot. From the fire. But all the injuries I had were, broken ankle, sprained knee, broken humerus, sprained wrist, burn on foot, concussion, a huge bruise on my forehead from the airbag, 3 broken ribs, broken nose, and a bunch of cuts from the glass. I’m all better now and I’m happy to be here. It’s just so scary to think that I could’ve died. In the end, steel is stronger. *What happened to the other driver:* The other driver was in his moms Cadillac Escalade and he broke his left arm, ankle, right wrist, and a broken rib. His mom wasn’t happy. *In the end:* At first the mom blamed ME for “driving recklessly,” “speeding (speed limit was 65 and I was 70)” “and that I had enough time to brake.” But In court when they saw the dash cam footage they decided he was at fault. *What I think about aluminum:* It’s not as safe. And steel is still better. Sure steel is heavier but it’s not as safe, and has so many problems in the winter. (The cold weather makes the body panels shift and so doors can’t shut all the way. Also the reason they went to aluminum was for “fuel economy.” I don’t know about you but most people aren’t buying trucks for their fuel economy. If you were then get a Rivian or a Cybertruck. *Is the F-150 safe:* It really depends on your opinion of what safe is but, yes i think it’s safe. I lived I the end without anything that’s gonna effect me in the long run except a prediction by doctors of some major arthritis. *Would I recommend:* Yes. There nice trucks. If you read all that your a great person. Have a nice day.😊
Interesting the have new 14s laying around, but im pretty sure ive heard some of these crash facilities still have brand new 2002/2003 f150s to do the same thing with. Goes for other vehicles too... how do I get my hands on one? haha
Well this video might have just sold me on the used 2014 I have been pondering. Was wanting the newer, lighter, better gas mileage 2016. BUT.. Crash test videos of the 2015+ are scary. I wish I could find full speed front impact and side impact of 2014.
Rachel Gibson the new f150 has a better crash rating, a stronger chassis, and more powerful engine options like the v8 and 3.5. I don't see why anyone would actually prefer the older one.
@@ZacCjw The regular cab and supercrew were better than the supercab of that era...the lack of a B pillar in the supercab (which the other 2 had) had a major impact...they fixed it in the 04 though which did much better even without a B pillar
+Eazydogg The vehicles are considered "junk" when they are built. Either by cosmetic defect or a random vehicle selected for testing. About 2% of the vehicles on the assembly line are chosen for "junk" status. They are sent to schools for training, crash testing and quality control testing. Most never leave the assembly plant.
Look, at 5 mph, no you don’t want to crash Aluminum into steel. But in higher speed, lethal force crashes, you want aluminum. Aluminum disperses the energy from the crash, because it shatters. Steel stays ridged, so all the energy from the crash is directed into the cab
Its the same repair costs since both trucks got the same pieces damaged... The only difference between the costs is that aluminium is more expensive, and it dosent matter if the 2014 damage was less impressive since both of them got the same damages in minor scales, they both have to be repaired or changed the same pieces...
That is a lot of damage for 10 miles an hour... I understand cars need to crumble to absorb the impact, but that seems quite excessive
jay jay YOURE SAFE IN ANY CAR AT A 10 MPH CRASH UNLESS IF YOU HAVE FUCKING TAKATA AIRBAGS.
007K the newer one was aluminium...
antuan XII from the 2000s *
antuan XII most cars have Takata airbags
@Chris B Our Ford was in a fire, pretty much the entire front end was melted. It was in the $20,000's to fix and still wasn't written off.
I love how the aluminum crushed about a foot back, while the 2014 would be easily repairable. Surprised the airbags didn't blow in the new one too.
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Note : Don't crash into older F-150s
Lol you all know if you crash into a car covered with nokeas will obviously kill everyone
note. dont buy a Kmart ford.
Note: Aluminum has been shown to be cheaper than steel to repair.
Additional Note: Steel transfers the energy whereas the Aluminum absorbs.
I'll take the "Kmart" Ford over steel.
@@ec3886 that's why I don't wana buy a new car I wana get a 1995 back then they were made better
The newer steel body F150’s are like tanks though,
it’s amazing how the steel compares to the Aluminum
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no shit
No it isn’t the front of the trucks are different this isn’t scientific and their is different aluminum alloys
Especially when exposed to rust
Get prepared for the Cybertruck
And where is the repair cost comparison?
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You can see that in your own eyes dump.. You don't need an invoice lol
The new one was beyond compare. Lol
If you live in America it’s cheaper than the previous. Well the repair is more but you’ll be saving thousands from your hospital charges.
shit my 67 f100 woulda been like...what was that noise?
cool story bro
+Andrew Kuhn (kuhndog52) i have a 71 f100.
id probably cry if it happened.
+Andrew Kuhn (kuhndog52) My Dodge Dakota probably would have shattered into a million pieces. And I would be fine with it.
+Alex Curle actually i just had an incident with my durango ata similar speed to this and there was absolutely nothing wrong with my truck.
I was taking a jab at dodge......
Looks like the 2014 is the better one
+AssassinGame00 steel isn't as soft as aluminum and this proves it
Not really. It's a large step forward in safety, for the occupants of both vehicles. The 2014 rear ending the 2015 was rather violent compaired to the 2015 rear ending the 2014.
+kolby4078 true ever one knew this anyway. the reason ford did this with the 2015 was to sofin up the blow. the more stiff the impact the more messed up you will be in a wreck. they made the cock pit super strong and it has already been tested and proven.
+josh b they did it so save weight, thus saving gas.
safety improvements should always be there when making a new model, regardless of materials used
yeah bro you have all razon of the World
The drivers in both vehicles were like ''did you feel something?'' ;p
Nah, just the 2014
Nope, the driver of the 2015 definitely was not
In both cases, you're looking at replacing the front headlight, and fender assemblies. The only difference is that in the 2016, you also have to get a plastic trim piece that goes around the headlight
clearly the steel one is the better contender at low speeds here
+Prince Broly Yep, less damage to the vehicle and the cost to repair any damage is ultimately about half the price compared to the cost of repairing aluminum.
The tools, skill, and time to repair aluminum is no different than steel. If you're letting them charge you more then you're a sucker.
Robert Kavanagh The tools used must be separate from any used to repair steel to avoid causing corrosion in the aluminum.. There are also tools specifically designed to repair aluminum vs steel because of the lack of 'memory' in the metal and it's thermodynamic properties vs steel.. Technicians without skill and experience in aluminum repair risk causing damage to the metal beyond repair. You can fuck around and do the job with the wrong tools if you want to wing it and/or have someone without proper training work on it but there are standards for a reason.
That is aside from the fact that replacement parts cost on average 50% more than the same parts made of steel would cost.
+Robert Kavanagh You don't get to negotiate body repair costs. There is an industry standard that everyone uses.
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Safety wise, the 2015 version is more damaged due to the fact that it is hit in a crumple zone which is designed to reduce the impact of a crash. This will cost more but in fact is safer compared to the 2014 version has the occupants feel much more of the impact. If you want to keep repair costs down go with the 2014, if you want a lighter but safer pick-up, go with the 2015 version. The 2015 version also includes side airbags and ABS are standard with many other features available at request. So safety wise, the 2015 F-150 is better despite what the video above shows as it only takes in account the repair costs. - From an unbiased person living in the UK with no love for the F-150 ;) , just facts.
You are right. Don't forget that aluminum doesn't have to worry about rust issues.
+amanoncrack Yeah it didn't have ABS as standard, it was an optional feature.
+amanoncrack I'm from the UK so we don't really have Chevys here. Hardly any pickup trucks as well. We do have the Ford Transit though xD
+amanoncrack Yeah you're right about that, especially with those massive diesel/petrol V8s. I'd find it hard to inagine a Ford F-150 on the roads of London, it would probably be around the size of a single decker bus. Only people who buy pickups here in the UK would be builders or farmers. Its usually the Nissan Navara or Ford Ranger but they're tiny compared to a Silverado or any other American pickup truck. They must be really good for hauling stuff around and towing. I wouldn't mind one myself If I lived in the countryside.
ABS had been required on vehicles sold in America since 2000.
So basically the 2014 model is better....
+Dave Jackson How did you come to this conclusion?
+William S The 2014 model took less damage & it's made out of steel...Watch the video
***** Yes, I watched the video...but your comment doesn't mean anything. You assume it's better based on what you have seen, but it doesn't really work like that. Appearances can be deceiving. The outer body panels are designed to crumple in a collision. Will it cost more to repair from a low speed collision such as this compared to a steel body? Yes, probably, for now anyways. But there are still advantages.. lighter weight being the biggest one. ...which equates to better fuel economy and higher payload.
+William S The video is about collision damage...not fuel economy or anything else you named which means your comment is just as irrelevant if not more...Its better when it comes to collisions...I'm more into Silverado trucks though so if you say so
***** Oh, you're not even a Ford man? Good day to you Sir.
Steel all the way. Plus the repair cost are less for steel than aluminum.
KYDashcam same thing was said with fuel injection vs carburetors
Raekwon Willis what? Carburetors are still cheaper to fix. Not as reliable.
Smells like W H I P L A S H
The car crumples so your body doesn’t
@@komodobricks STEEL vehicles also have crumple zones....
The ALUMINUM 2015 F150 supercab kills the driver in the small overlap. Then the frame structure was redesigned for 2016.
I was in an actual crash like this but was hit at a higher speed. A Dodge 1500 truck rear ended my 2010 F150 FX4 while I was at a stop light and that driver was texting, she didn’t even hit her brakes until just before the impact (50 kmh zone) and tried to swerve at the last second. Impact wise the driver seat protected me well and I wasn’t injured, the right side of my rear bumper, truck box and taillight had to be replaced. The body shop insurance claim came in around $10,000.
They should really do more test like this
Not really. They should change ot and make a front hit a front and a back hit a back rather than comparing a front hitting a back.
+Peter Gilbert did you check the IIHS test site? They more than likely do perform such a test.
Keyshawn Russell All Cars must be tested... search on TH-cam:
- NHTSA Oblique Crash
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- IIHS Small Overlap
they are the 2 Hardest Tests all Cars have to go through, the Small Overlap Crashes cars agaibst a wall at 40mph with 25% of the Nose, whereas the Oblique Crash Test, which is just being introduced, crashes a 5500lb Cart running at 56mph against the Nose of a Car parked at a 15 degrees Angle ... you'll be impressed to see what the results are
Everyone on here must be insurance appraisers or body shop workers. I worked at a body shop for 2 years and worked on high-end vehicles often built with aluminum or other composite material, so I can shed light on this.
I don't see how the aluminum didn't hold up as well as the steel. Both trucks would need the same amount of new parts. In the front crashes, both trucks would need a new headlight, fender, hood, bumper and probably quite a few parts behind the bodywork. In the rear, both trucks would need a new taillight, bedside, tailgate and bumper. I really don't see how the repair costs could be 25% more with aluminum here, because panels on the aluminum body are riveted not welded so they are much easier to replace. Yes, in this video, the aluminum appears to have flexed more than the steel, but who gives a shit? The same amount of panels will need to be replaced on both trucks, so who cares how the panel reacted?
The idea of the way the new aluminum F-150 is built is the ease of replacing panels. Yes, the parts are more expensive right now, but the labour required to replace the panel rather than trying to repair it should offset the cost of the part. That's the problem I have with Edmunds' test when they slammed a sledge into the side of their 2015. The body shop tried to repair the panel when it would've been easier and exponentially cheaper to replace the panel.
Either way, I'm not really concerned. I upgraded from my 2013 F-150 to a 2015 F-150 and my insurance went down even though my new truck has a $10,000 higher sticker price than my 2013.
so youre saying that the steel one in this video could be fixed with just a new headlight? do you really think everything will fit just like it was before? you will have to replace panels on both
HCFX news flash, aluminum body panels ARE welded. You obviously don't know what the hell you're talking about.
As well has Aluminium will survive better against Snow and water. It will not rust.
Over all, without any accident, your Aluminium Ford-150 will last way longer visually than the steel.
@@fadingbeleifs but how do you know?
Well aluminum parts are way more expensive even if you only need the same parts
for those people saying "cars crumple to save your life" The steel version of the f150 has the crumple feature but the new F150 was almost totaled at 10 mph, nobody gets whiplash at that speed anyway
Just because the steel body f150 looks less damaged, it doesn't mean it'll be less costly to fix.
A bent hood needs replacement as much as a balled up crumpled hood.
Read the description, the steel F150 is LITERALLY better than the aluminum F150
Steel is heavier and stronger so that there is less damage, sure. But aluminium is lighter and less resistant and crumples more to allow for a softer impact therefore making the occupants safer in case of a crash.
So u want a drivable car or a safe ride?
@@vuurkoning A safe ride... so an aluminium truck.
@@luken2o223 in a big crash thatsnot a good choice but ok
@@vuurkoning Neither is a steel body but ok
@@luken2o223 a steel body is safer tho
LOL at all of the idiots here dissing aluminum. It doesn't have much to do with the material, it has everything to do with build quality. Numerous sturdy aluminum vehicles have been made in the past.
NikoBell12 I think a lot of the extra costs will go down too as aluminum becomes more mainstream.
People are missing the point. The aluminum body helps you not be affected by the hit, meanwhile the steel rocks the cab. You see how the cab barley moves on the 2015 but on the 2011-14 it shakes. It's all about safety.... and long lasting strength. Aluminum is strong, but not hard.
Do you seriously thinking people care enough about their safety? I mean LESS MONEY=BETTER PRODUCT, they forget to add their hospital bills into the equation 😂
I just recently purchased a 2014 f150 fx4, and I knew it was a steel body. I thought the aluminum body was newer than 2015, though. Boy, did I luck out on that one. From everything I've read, the fuel economy increase is negligible as well.
You definitely didn't luck out but glad to know you're a moron.
Steel rules
Even though the steel was not as damaged. It’s still damaged and the same parts need to be replaced it seems.
Steel looks stronger bro......
+Nathan Oakes because it is
+Nathan Oakes Not in the event of a high speed crash
CalJack You mean a high speed crash where the steel frame underneath is doing most of the work of protecting you?
+geese Just about. Vehicles are getting closer to disposable. Pay $50K for a truck and send it to the junkyard because you bumped into something. No body repair is as good as new, so avoiding those types of repairs are ideal.
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My family has a 2010 F150, and it kicks ass. It's got the 5.4 V8, which sounds insane!
Shut the fuck up
The f-150 2014 is more than better that the 2015
A glancing blow at 15 miles an hour. Wow. At least now they know now to strengthen the Headlights. That was a very informative test. Repair cost probably cost more than the test. If you're going to test two trucks, do it right. Head on
Kinda biased as the Aluminum versions bumper was just slightly lower placing all the force on the front panel and face. The steel version's bumper is a touch higher as you can see the initial contact deflect off the bumper first.
I didn't think anyone else caught that.. Good vision.
So glad my brother got a 2013 instead of something newer. I’d like if they would offer a steel variant on the ford trucks so that people who want to use them won’t worry as much about crashes.
This is a video ford does not want you to see.
+skilashi21 What makes you say that?
+William S Are you blind? The aluminum F150 sustained more damage than the steel F150
skilashi21 What is your point? You know, all the flashy stuff on the outside is designed to absorb impacts... it's the cab/cabin that's important. Why don't you go cry about the fiberglass/plastic fenders on almost every dually, Saturn vehicles, Corvettes, etc. etc.?
just dont crash
And just don't buy f-150's
Reading the description helped explain more
“High strength aluminum alloy. Just as strong as steel but much lighter” My ass
Don't look at the impact zone as your irrefutable proof.. the newer F150's passengers are safe and didn't feel as much of the impact as compared to those in the steel body.
I got a 2014 Ford F-150 3.5l twin turbo and its been amazing, test drove the 2015 and still chose 2014.
The steel body :TIS BUT A SCRATCH
The aluminum body: uwu plz don't hurt me
Lot of hate for the F150.. This is the truck I have and I absolutely love it. Much safer than the other cars I've driven in the past.
Looks like the F150 wins again
My dad owned a 2014 Ford F-150 Lariat, and rolled it over at 60mph a few years back.. completely totaled it. Had it been a new one I’m not sure if I would still have him🙏
I’d prefer to have the older F150
The bumpers did not hit dead center. That's why both truck took considerable damage above.
But steel bumpers, while rare now, those are the thicker metal 1980s and before large American cars had, so in minor collisions, repair costs are minimal.
Aluminum = Soda cans. Keep it that way.
@Hazim Azam wtf
It was just a plastic parts that broke for the 2015. Also if you notice the bumper on the 2015 just came right down where the 2014 just stayed up which helped with the damage control
I understand why automanufatures design vehicles to have crumple zones to absorb energy from a impact but what should be a fender bender in the parking lot shouldn't total or car or truck...
+Kyle Bullard even if the that saves one life its worth it, who cares about a totaled car.
+Kyle Bullard I would hardly call that totaled.
kleetus92 the front axle almost bent.
Chuck Norris I'm sure you would if you felt a slight bump from behind you and the rear axle was bent
Still rather have the higher damage. My deductible won’t change lol.
Much rather have the vehicle crumble and absorb the impact, exactly as it’s designed to do. Steel cars at 10-15 can still cause some decent injuries. Notice it just pushed it out of the way instead of letting in go “through” it.
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Because you're an idiot
I'm glad i watched this. I'm struggling eith a decision to buy a 2014 or a 15/16 f150. I like the 14 exterior but the 15/16 tech and interior. I'll have to go with quality though. I'm not paying top dollar for a truck to crumble like that aluminum body did. Wow! 2014 it is. I think ford will go back to steel soon. I work for a place that buys about 300 fords a year and administrators are not happy about the repair cost of the aluminum fords
just like an aluminum can.
We should note the aluminum variant has a better crash rating and higher payload capacity.
@@nonconsensualopinion And you also have to sell it for scrap if you get in a wreck at just 10 miles per hour
@Hazim Azam Bro you need to understand no one is gonna pay 50 grand for a truck that gets totaled at just 5mph broooooooooooooo
@Hazim Azam Your Urdu is also weak, work on it
Also why don't you tell me whom you work for?
@Hazim Azam Then use proper punctuation please.
Why don't you give me my address Mr. Central Intelligence?
Traduci questo dato che fai parte della CIA
The newer F-150 did just as good. Everyone saying it did poorly but it didn't. The 2014 F-150s hood is still impacted after the accident. And the fender and light still need to be replaced.
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I have heard a couple stories of the new 2015's hitting moose in northern ontario. Apparently there is not very much left after that happens when compared to those who hit one with their steel bodied variants.
New one is fragile. SAAB used to test with moose/elk. No way aluminium up to job..
Give me a break lmfao. No truck is going to be repairable after hitting a fucking moose.
So why new f150s cost so much now it seems that they are fancy . Reliable no more . Own a 2001 5.4 liter and still running like a beast.
2014 is better but 2015 weight is lower and it have lower fuel consuption
It’s funny because the commercials for the new fords are like “MADE OF HIGH GRADE ALUMINUM”
military grade?
+Marco Renteria more of chinese made
Repair costs are going to go down in the next few years, and Chevy is going to go with aluminum in 4-5 years or so. (I'd bet they'd claim that they did it first.)
The lighter the vehicle is, the more violent it will be in a crash, I don't know what the weight of either of these, but notice how when the 15 hit the 14 the 14 barely moved, but when the 14 hit the 15 the 15 moved a lot. The heavier steel body will be less impact because it will move the other vehicle more instead of stopping you faster. I also saw a few comments about corrosion, aluminum doesn't rust it just dissolves. If you have ever tried to get aluminum red hot like steel you know what I mean. It will do basically the same thing, so it will be interesting to see what happens, if it will "rust" faster, or if Ford figured something out to slow the rust.
Buddy the heavier the vehicle is the more damage it does
@@blackicegamingchannel yes, to the other vehicle, but it carries it's momentum better.
People saying "the car crumbles so you don't get hurt" get on my damn nerves. I would rather a TRUCK be able to take a low speed crash with little to no damage. My 80s steel suburban may not be safe for me if it hits another 80s steel truck, but if it hits a 2015 f150, you can bet your ass that pretty f150 will be undrivable... Ask me how I know lol the mans suspension gave in
the front and rear ends of the car are designed to crumple like that to take all the impact
I understand that, and that is precisely what I said I do not like!!
well if its designed to do that whay do you get mad? i dont understand lol
Because they didn't used to be!! You all can take your safe little plastic cars, but I'll keep driving my old steel ones, how bout that?
lol you dont understand
I'm a vehicle physical damage appraiser and could have told you it will cost a lot more to repair the aluminum body because shops have to be aluminum repair certified and charge a lot more to repair aluminum.......you didn't have to destroy two perfectly good trucks.
Well gm & chevy going to alum next couple yrs. dodge been using alum hoods on there pick ups.ford always been one step ahead for many yrs. others try to copy!!
Hope so they don't. Fancy material .
That’s disheartening as an owner of a 2015 f150, but I CAN say, I have in fact rear ended an SUV at roughly 10mph, and I suffered nothing but very minor dents to the lowest part of my bumper and license plate... nothing else
It's a shame. The Newer F-150 had so much potential. Guess I'll be buying a Chevy.
Don't come crying to me to pull you home when you blow a gasket
+Hayden Medgyesy lol, I'm a Ford guy, but we get 2015-16 F-150's in the shop that have gotten in wrecks, and the way they are constructed now, you can't bang out the dents anymore, so we have to replace the whole quater panel which ends up costing the customer way more than it should to fix a dent. Any decent crash, and the new F-150 will total pretty easily. It's a truck, and I should be able to treat it as such. The F-150 is fragile now. It's like a coke can. It really is a shame. If it weren't for the aluminum I'd still be looking at Fords.
+Loose Goose the chevy is not near as safe and the ford got 5 star safety rating
it's safer than any other truck in its class...
Enjoy your Chevy and their ridiculously off-centered steering wheel issue... -.-
is there a way to petition ford for a steel body instead of aluminum
ford is stupid for going aluminum why cut weight for effeicency when you can use steel for saftey to the buyers.
.. ford is always lacks quality
Donald Trump you can always Put it as a no 5 star safety since your president
Donald Trump Because aluminium is safer than steel, genius.
J W do you want The Aluminum To crumble on your face, or have steel have dents on your face, And say this: Aluminum Is Much more expensive than the steel
gotta remember 2015 was the beginning of the newest gen and there's always kinks. but they've been fixing it and making more durable we'll see how much better it is when the 18 f150 comes out. but my old 99 Taurus took a cement block to the mouth at 35 and only got a dent
GM truck the best 😻
yup!, way stronger then these fords...
Just remember a very rigid vehicle (the older cor F150) Isnt as safe though i think its safer when some crashes into you or you want to kill someones car but if you hit someone or crash the passengers and driver will be more injured unlike the aliuminum where the Truck's panels or parts crumbles it absorbs the inpact much better and i believe the cabin is a stronger material than the outer area. Edit: Jeez so many people are either dumb or dont know much about cars
10mph? is that a joke?
NeATaNDtURdy "REPAIR COSTS"
you're right they should have been at 35mph. that would have been real world crash test. I don't think they wanted to show what would happen to an aluminum ford at that scenario.
cars should be capable of surviving a crash based on their top speed not 10mph
+NeATaNDtURdy well so far that new f150 couldn't survive a 10mph hit. a 35mph would tear the truck up
I like how newer f150 had more softer impact. I would worry more about drivers/people inside it just smoothly impacted, everything else is insurance problem even if its 25% more repair. I noticed older had stiffer impact and the neck of that driver is now hurting
aluminum body like a chinse car.
Except until you crash...
Chinese owned Volvo has great safety rating
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Shai KO ur sound like a white fat guy
I'm confused??? You have the front, which is visually a weaker section on both- colliding into a virtually 90deg reinforced corner on the back (not designed for impact like the front corners). What kind of engineer thought this was a positive result??
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Vehicles are designed with crumple zones to minimize impact to the driver and passengers, but they also should be able to withstand a stronger impact than that with minimal damage. That thing crushed like a soda can
It's a fairly hard, localized hit.
The 2014 didn't absorb it at all, resulting in a very violent shock to both trucks.
The 2015 absorbed it nicely.
I have an 04 steel body f150 i was tboned by a chick pulling out of a gas station, she was probly doing around 20 mph & she hit my drivers side door as i was going straight when she hit she completley bounced 180° in the other direction, my door was bent up pretty good but my window still goes down 🤣 tis but a scratch
A lot of comments to read through. But I didn't see anyone addressing any statistics on crash speeds most likely to occur nor at what speed would you have to be going in a single car accident and insurance would total your brand new $48k vehicle. Obviously these insurance factors get spread across all policy holders. Such as high speed crash survivors cost way more in medical bills than a dead person. The insurance companies are a casino. They don't care cause they don't loose over time. Every time you buy a new vehicle watch how your rates jack up.
And people believe an aluminum airplane went through the pentagon.. pshh
The aluminum trucks may crumple more but they actually received a higher safety rating. In the end, it's not about keeping the vehicle intact, it's about keeping the driver and passengers safe. The more of the vehicle crumples, the better, because its taking the impact rather than the person taking it. And the F-150 is the safest out there when it comes to pickup trucks. Ram, GM, and Toyota don't come close, although the newer body style Rams are better than the older ones.
Wow thing peals open like a can....
yeah
+matthebest018 Cant wait to see how Chevy and Ram handle it when they switch to aluminum.
+Daniel Bell if they do
AlbanianSold13r They will. They announced last year they had already found suppliers.
Daniel Bell Nothing's confirmed, they simply said they were investing in there aluminum plants. GM just built an all aluminum ct6 doesn't meen it was for the Silverado. But anything is possible.
My steel body 2014 tundra took the mirror, front fender, headlight and grille off of a 16 f150. Repairs to my truck took 5 min. Bumper corner pushed in. His truck left on a flatbed. Ill stick with steel bodies
built tough??? haha looks like soda can
Domt see why everyone is complaining. Both trucks still have a destroyed headlight, hood, fender, and bumper.
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The Ford F-150 is the only truck in its class that got a too safety pick award. No more explanation needed.
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It's also the most unreliable
+Galpin Speed Shop I believe I would rather be safer than worrying about reliability which the ram is worse.
+Paultwice22 Why are you so loyal to Ford? You shouldn't be that loyal to any corporation. Just remember; at the end of the day, Ford hates you.
+sugahotcakes why would you expect any company to love u
mi abuelo me sigo que en sus tiempos habían camionetas más resisten y mujeres más calientes
Not only is it better for low speed impacts, but even the crashed up 2014 f150 looks better than a mint 2015 f150
why is that even an option 😂 steele all the way
Ford needs to do some explaining. What about this is "military grade" aluminum?
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To me it looks like the aluminium one kept crumbling after it hit the steel one
Aluminum is softer than steel and this proves it. It’s not as safe and easier to be destroyed. It’s also not as strong and melts faster.
*Story about how I know this:*
When I got in an accident with my 2019 F-150 King Ranch it was super bad. I had t-boned someone going 70mph after they ran a redlight and pulled out onto the highway to make a left and I didn’t see them in time and slammed into them. My door got stuck and I was stuck in my truck. I was hurting so badly. And then my truck burst into flames and I’m stuck in the truck. I was so scared. And since it was aluminum it melts way faster. So it melted so much that by the time people got me out of the truck that the fire had starting melting the gauge cluster and infotainment screen and steering wheel. So it went through the fire wall and started melting the dashboard. Steel wouldn’t have melted as quickly. I only got minor burns to my right foot. From the fire. But all the injuries I had were, broken ankle, sprained knee, broken humerus, sprained wrist, burn on foot, concussion, a huge bruise on my forehead from the airbag, 3 broken ribs, broken nose, and a bunch of cuts from the glass. I’m all better now and I’m happy to be here. It’s just so scary to think that I could’ve died. In the end, steel is stronger.
*What happened to the other driver:*
The other driver was in his moms Cadillac Escalade and he broke his left arm, ankle, right wrist, and a broken rib. His mom wasn’t happy.
*In the end:*
At first the mom blamed ME for “driving recklessly,” “speeding (speed limit was 65 and I was 70)” “and that I had enough time to brake.” But In court when they saw the dash cam footage they decided he was at fault.
*What I think about aluminum:*
It’s not as safe. And steel is still better. Sure steel is heavier but it’s not as safe, and has so many problems in the winter. (The cold weather makes the body panels shift and so doors can’t shut all the way. Also the reason they went to aluminum was for “fuel economy.” I don’t know about you but most people aren’t buying trucks for their fuel economy. If you were then get a Rivian or a Cybertruck.
*Is the F-150 safe:*
It really depends on your opinion of what safe is but, yes i think it’s safe. I lived I the end without anything that’s gonna effect me in the long run except a prediction by doctors of some major arthritis.
*Would I recommend:*
Yes. There nice trucks.
If you read all that your a great person. Have a nice day.😊
Been watching ford truck crash test because I’m looking to purchase one for my first ( purchased ) car.
Dang buying a truck made of beer cans might be a bad idea, I still love my 2015 though.
What’s the speed of the vehicle at the point of impact?
I rather the 2014.... Enough said.
The offset crashes is scary on the 2015+ models.
Interesting the have new 14s laying around, but im pretty sure ive heard some of these crash facilities still have brand new 2002/2003 f150s to do the same thing with. Goes for other vehicles too... how do I get my hands on one? haha
Well this video might have just sold me on the used 2014 I have been pondering. Was wanting the newer, lighter, better gas mileage 2016. BUT.. Crash test videos of the 2015+ are scary. I wish I could find full speed front impact and side impact of 2014.
Rachel Gibson the new f150 has a better crash rating, a stronger chassis, and more powerful engine options like the v8 and 3.5. I don't see why anyone would actually prefer the older one.
Makes me feel a lot better about my 2013! My 2003 is probably even more of a tank
You may want to watch crash test videos of the 2003 f150 🫣 it didn't fair so well
@@ZacCjw It's a supercrew
@@ZacCjw The regular cab and supercrew were better than the supercab of that era...the lack of a B pillar in the supercab (which the other 2 had) had a major impact...they fixed it in the 04 though which did much better even without a B pillar
People always say old cars are built the best
My question is what do they do with all the cars they wreck after testing them
+Eazydogg The vehicles are considered "junk" when they are built. Either by cosmetic defect or a random vehicle selected for testing. About 2% of the vehicles on the assembly line are chosen for "junk" status. They are sent to schools for training, crash testing and quality control testing. Most never leave the assembly plant.
+Eazydogg They go to M&M.
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the vehicles are considered junk when they're built into fords xD
+dtrnsprtr OHHHH SAVAGE xD
Look, at 5 mph, no you don’t want to crash Aluminum into steel. But in higher speed, lethal force crashes, you want aluminum. Aluminum disperses the energy from the crash, because it shatters. Steel stays ridged, so all the energy from the crash is directed into the cab
Its the same repair costs since both trucks got the same pieces damaged... The only difference between the costs is that aluminium is more expensive, and it dosent matter if the 2014 damage was less impressive since both of them got the same damages in minor scales, they both have to be repaired or changed the same pieces...