If our system is installed per our instructions, the cables will just pull out after removing the jam nut and acorn nut. Other brands' systems sometimes have shoulders and will not pull through the posts as you described. agsstainless.com or store.agsstainless.com
@@Agsstainless each adjustable lag terminal is $40. That's what I was referring to. I know they're intricate and precise but I don't see how they would be more than 10x the price of a turnbuckle for example.
I see, that is what it costs to manufacture and bring them to market. The Adjustable Deck Toggles and Deck Toggles are a less expensive and probably an easier installation. Stainless steel and especially Marine Grade 316 Stainless Steel is costly, there is no way around it. If you have access to the backside of your posts, regular fittings are the least expensive option. You would need to drill all the way through the end posts. The cost for 316 fitting is considerably less. Deck Toggles and Lag Terminals are best for blind installations where one cannot access the back side of the mounting surface. Deck Toggles are also good for non-perpendicular installations. This shows regular fittings on a stair installation: agsstainless.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Screenshot_1.png
Installing and tensioning cable says the title. No this is only about tensioning. Installing should of involved how to calculate the spacing between cables etc.
Drew, I have used cables in residential conditions. You it is a deflection issue. Just make sure the cables are tight enough to not deflect more than 4". Jake Sent from my iPhone
Jason Ryan Thanks Jake. I heard y'all are going to infiltrate the Mechanical Hall, congrats on that man! I might add some delicate wood battens to brace the wires to help that 4" rule on the rail.
+Drew Donley The rule is NOT 4" deflection, it is 4" Opening as you stated. If a 4" sphere cannot pass through it is per code. Proper tension is important too. As for the size of required wooden posts, that would depend not only on the national codes, but on the local codes. Our engineer would be able to assist with any issues with our products. With wood posts we normally only supply the materials. With stainless posts we design and build to fit and per code.
Thank you for your comment! The lag terminals are intended to be used in horizontal cable infill for wood/composite framed guards. In such applications the maximum recommended tension is 150 lbs. Please let us know if you have any further questions.
The working strength for 1/8” 1x19 SS cable is going to be around 450#. Bear in mind that, for a typical railing infill application, the 125# (working) capacity of the lag terminal should be plenty.
A properly designed railing frame with 1/8” cable infill anchored by the lag terminals will be sufficient to meet the requirements in the model code (local codes may vary and should be referenced for compliance): · 200# load on the top rail in any direction · 50# horizontal load acting on a 12” x 12” area of the infill The loads are not assumed to act concurrently. We encourage you to call and speak to one of our sales reps about the specifics of your project (888)842-9492.
Hi +Jack! The cables are 1×19, SS316, 1/8″ diameter to minimize stretching and maximize your view. Thank you for your interest, please let us know if you have further questions.
You're doing a wonderful job keep up the good work..
Tremendous help
I am so happy to find this video. My vacation home has decks that use old plastic coated steel cables and hardware store fittings. This is the bomb!
+Greg McMurry Thank you Greg!
Thank you it helped me fix my mum's cables
Hi Does anybody know where to buy the products in this video ?
store.agsstainless.com
Very helpful,.straignt to the point and clear solutions,..my customers love this,..my $3,000 order is being placed as soon as we win the contract.
Where I can find that material?
Thank you for asking… store.agsstainless.com/
how do you get the cable out of the end to un-assemble and paint the posts
If our system is installed per our instructions, the cables will just pull out after removing the jam nut and acorn nut. Other brands' systems sometimes have shoulders and will not pull through the posts as you described. agsstainless.com or store.agsstainless.com
Where do you buy these?
store.agsstainless.com
$40 each. Just that post would be over $360. Unconscionable.
You are saying a pressure treated post costs $360? I think you're off, Lowes.com shows a 10-foot 4x4 for $11.17.
@@Agsstainless each adjustable lag terminal is $40. That's what I was referring to. I know they're intricate and precise but I don't see how they would be more than 10x the price of a turnbuckle for example.
I see, that is what it costs to manufacture and bring them to market. The Adjustable Deck Toggles and Deck Toggles are a less expensive and probably an easier installation. Stainless steel and especially Marine Grade 316 Stainless Steel is costly, there is no way around it.
If you have access to the backside of your posts, regular fittings are the least expensive option. You would need to drill all the way through the end posts. The cost for 316 fitting is considerably less.
Deck Toggles and Lag Terminals are best for blind installations where one cannot access the back side of the mounting surface. Deck Toggles are also good for non-perpendicular installations.
This shows regular fittings on a stair installation: agsstainless.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Screenshot_1.png
Hello! I want to buy that sistem on your Ebay acound, but I can't not see how many units I will get in my purchase.
What material are the 4x4 posts and top board pieces made off, it does not look like wood?
He clearly says treated 4 x 4 lumber
In the video it is indeed pressure treated wood as davetileguy says.
Thank you for this video. What materials other than wood do you recommend for posts (ex. aluminum, stainless steel, etc.)
What is the diameter of the cable?
The cable is 1/8" Electro-polished 316 stainless steel.
Installing and tensioning cable says the title. No this is only about tensioning. Installing should of involved how to calculate the spacing between cables etc.
+edward charles Thank you Edward, we recommend a maximum spacing of three inches based on posts being spaced at 4 foot or less apart.
Does it also work for dynamic loads?
I am not sure what you are asking. By "it" do you mean a specific single component or the cable railing system?
And then by "dynamic" do you mean wind load or side load during use or what?
Do tensioning cables satisfy residential BOCA rules? For example, the 4" opening rule and such. Are 4x4 posts required?
Drew,
I have used cables in residential conditions. You it is a deflection issue. Just make sure the cables are tight enough to not deflect more than 4".
Jake
Sent from my iPhone
Jason Ryan Thanks Jake. I heard y'all are going to infiltrate the Mechanical Hall, congrats on that man! I might add some delicate wood battens to brace the wires to help that 4" rule on the rail.
+Drew Donley The rule is NOT 4" deflection, it is 4" Opening as you stated. If a 4" sphere cannot pass through it is per code. Proper tension is important too.
As for the size of required wooden posts, that would depend not only on the national codes, but on the local codes.
Our engineer would be able to assist with any issues with our products.
With wood posts we normally only supply the materials. With stainless posts we design and build to fit and per code.
+AGS Stainless Inc. Thanks for the info guys.
So i am having an issue with my system, my cables are coming out with just a light touch, they will pull out…
How do i fix this? I bought this system
What is the strength rating of these?
Thank you for your comment! The lag terminals are intended to be used in horizontal cable infill for wood/composite framed guards. In such applications the maximum recommended tension is 150 lbs. Please let us know if you have any further questions.
So, do the lag terminals match the weight/strength limit for the SS cable rating itself?
The working strength for 1/8” 1x19 SS cable is going to be around 450#. Bear
in mind that, for a typical railing infill application, the 125# (working) capacity of the lag terminal should be plenty.
AGS Stainless Inc.: And what gauges would I upgrade to if someone might try to kick it down?
A properly designed railing frame with 1/8” cable infill anchored by the lag terminals will be sufficient to meet the requirements in the model code (local codes may vary and should be referenced for compliance):
· 200# load on the top rail in any direction
· 50# horizontal load acting on a 12” x 12” area of the infill
The loads are not assumed to act concurrently.
We encourage you to call and speak to one of our sales reps about the specifics of your project (888)842-9492.
Is it me or did I miss the first basic piece of information - WHAT DIAMETER IS THE CABLE???
Hi +Jack! The cables are 1×19, SS316, 1/8″ diameter to minimize stretching and maximize your view. Thank you for your interest, please let us know if you have further questions.
NO way with your video
Tamil