I had my 700 trued and a new PTG bolt, turned it into a tack driver for F class shooting! Dixie Precision by Alton Britt who is no longer with us after covid…..
If only the factory had higher standards to manufacture their firearms to the highest degree of perfection. And we all know that the technology exists for precision and affordability. We dont live in the dark ages.
I own the Winchester mid 70 action rifle that has the action like the Rem 700 so looking at the back of the bolt one lug has the bluing, and the other side is wore off the bluing telling just one lug is making contact. I looked at the bolt lugs on my Weatherby Mark 5 and the same thing is some lugs are making contact and other lugs have bluing showing indicating no contact on lock up
Great demo! By setting the receiver face back 3 thou, will the recoil lug now foul the bearing face in a chassis? Do you typically have to then mill a chassis or is there enough tolerance in those things not to matter?
You took material off the action's shoulder, the rear of the lugs, and the bolt face. When the barrel is screwed back in, won't the timing of the barrel along with the bolt headspacing be off now?
Yes, It will move the entire bolt back and changes both ignition timing and cam timing. Some of these newer actions are decent enough that you can get away with not repositioning the bolt handle.
It's ether a Viper or a copy of a Viper truing fixture. I bought it from a guy that went out of business. I added the thru hole to allow for the bolt handle to pass through when doing bolt truing. I believe they come with that cut now. If you don't have a TBAS, this is the way to go.
@@apexcustomriflesthose fixtures are horrible. all you end up doing is flexing whatever you are holding into alignment, and when you loosen the bolts the work piece goes back to wherever it was.
No, generally the entire action has been heat treated throughout unlike older Mausers for example, which would have a hard outer surface and a softer core.
The locking lugs should be lapped in the action, because the lug seats in the action may not be the same depth. I always hand seat them with grinding compound.
The lugs end up being squared and uniform after truing the action. This combined with truing the bolt creates square mating surfaces. Lapping them after this outside of a few seconds if a guy wanted to verify contact, would defeat the purpose of the truing process. There is the fact of the cocking piece lifting up on the bolt, but with a properly headspaced barrel, formed brass, and or a minimal clearance bolt body, this should be held to a minimum. The only actions I lap are M1917 Enfields due to their canted lugs. Truing of these on a machine requires a special setup or a CNC. This is my method and has worked very well for me.
My dad took his X40 to a custom well known builder to have it rebarreled and ask to have the action tuned and the guy laughed at him and said are serious we can do it but waist of money.
Personally I think working on a Rem 700 action is kind of a waste of time and resources, being that it is completely round and uses a washer style recoil lug. The Howa 1500 action is far superior in my opinion. Nice work tho! :)
I always love seeing r700 truing.
Wish I could do it!
Like the look of your work.
Thanks for sharing .
Thanks!
Very good job it makes sense sadly its not done at factory i understand a rebarrel having it done
I had my 700 trued and a new PTG bolt, turned it into a tack driver for F class shooting! Dixie Precision by Alton Britt who is no longer with us after covid…..
If only the factory had higher standards to manufacture their firearms to the highest degree of perfection. And we all know that the technology exists for precision and affordability. We dont live in the dark ages.
well done, but result on target?
Good video
Thanks, I'm kicking myself for not getting video for the threading of the action, but i'll be doing another at some point here with a brand new one.
What approach do you take for cleaning the threads
1. Single point
2. Tap
Single point.
Very interesting
This might be a dumb question buy why machine the front of the lugs? I would have thought that face would not be in contact with anything.
Unless you are running a tight bolt to barrel clearance, nothing other than looks.
Interesting!
I own the Winchester mid 70 action rifle that has the action like the Rem 700 so looking at the back of the bolt one lug has the bluing, and the other side is wore off the bluing telling just one lug is making contact.
I looked at the bolt lugs on my Weatherby Mark 5 and the same thing is some lugs are making contact and other lugs have bluing showing indicating no contact on lock up
Great demo! By setting the receiver face back 3 thou, will the recoil lug now foul the bearing face in a chassis? Do you typically have to then mill a chassis or is there enough tolerance in those things not to matter?
That won't matter.
LOVE IT
Thanks!
You took material off the action's shoulder, the rear of the lugs, and the bolt face. When the barrel is screwed back in, won't the timing of the barrel along with the bolt headspacing be off now?
You typically don't re-use the old barrel. A new barrel gets fit after the action has been true.
Excuse my ignorance. What does cleaning up the front of the lugs do? Really good video, wish there were more videos like this.
Typically not much other than looks. It's usually not off far enough to affect anything. I do it because it looks cleaner.
Have you done 98 actions and does it help and cost average
nice!
Thanks!
does this affect go & no-go ?
I ask because the variance in my 223 go & no-go gauges is only 3k
Yes, the barrel gets replaced.
You sound exactly like the guy who does the "Precision Machine Shed" channel.
that's where i recognize him from, it is that guy. 😂 oh boy.
Is there a point when squaring these faces to the CL of the bore that the bolt handle cam timing is effected ?
Yes, It will move the entire bolt back and changes both ignition timing and cam timing. Some of these newer actions are decent enough that you can get away with not repositioning the bolt handle.
Can you talk more on your work holding stuff? Great video fellas
It's ether a Viper or a copy of a Viper truing fixture. I bought it from a guy that went out of business. I added the thru hole to allow for the bolt handle to pass through when doing bolt truing. I believe they come with that cut now. If you don't have a TBAS, this is the way to go.
@@apexcustomrifles thanks fellas! Wish yall the best
@@apexcustomriflesthose fixtures are horrible. all you end up doing is flexing whatever you are holding into alignment, and when you loosen the bolts the work piece goes back to wherever it was.
Aren't you cutting through the hardened surfaces?
No, generally the entire action has been heat treated throughout unlike older Mausers for example, which would have a hard outer surface and a softer core.
The locking lugs should be lapped in the action, because the lug seats in the action may not be the same depth. I always hand seat them with grinding compound.
The lugs end up being squared and uniform after truing the action. This combined with truing the bolt creates square mating surfaces. Lapping them after this outside of a few seconds if a guy wanted to verify contact, would defeat the purpose of the truing process. There is the fact of the cocking piece lifting up on the bolt, but with a properly headspaced barrel, formed brass, and or a minimal clearance bolt body, this should be held to a minimum. The only actions I lap are M1917 Enfields due to their canted lugs. Truing of these on a machine requires a special setup or a CNC. This is my method and has worked very well for me.
My dad took his X40 to a custom well known builder to have it rebarreled and ask to have the action tuned and the guy laughed at him and said are serious we can do it but waist of money.
He was correct. Rem 40x rifles came from custom shop already squared.
Personally I think working on a Rem 700 action is kind of a waste of time and resources, being that it is completely round and uses a washer style recoil lug. The Howa 1500 action is far superior in my opinion. Nice work tho! :)
Thanks, I agree the 1500's are highly underrated.
You have to be particularly geeky to watch this and unfortunately I am.