Do people realize the value of the information being presented here. Turnbull’s are some of the most amazing firearms I’ve ever manipulated. This is priceless.
Okay, who else out there misses the days when craftsmanship like this was considered the Quality Norm rather than the exception? Remember anything and everything ever built using American-engineered and American-manufactured electric motors? How the machines they drove lasted multiple generations, and then after 87 years continuous duty the motors were disassembled, cleaned, lubricated, given new commutator brushes, and then put back into service for another three or four generations after the shells were stripped and repainted? It's the electric motors I remember the most. I have an original Baldor buffer that sounds like a choir of angels when running and requires about two minutes to come to rest after switching off. The original HVAC blower motor in my house was still going strong when the entire HVAC system had to be replaced (for other reasons) after forty years of continuous service. Anyone remember stuff like that? It was everywhere, all the time, and it was our Baseline Expectation for everything in our lives. Boy, it did my old heart a lot of good watching this craftsman turn out (okay, pun intended) a beautiful piece of truly functional equipment in the current environment of the cheap Chinese slap-dash manufacturing garbage with which we're being inundated today. Thanks for this, Turnbull.
@@johnpublic6582 I remember the very first time I saw a jeweled bolt when I was a kid, and it was the most beautiful piece of machinery I'd ever seen. I miss those days, too, my friend.
@@mk12pickle I don't understand what you mean, but I would like to because your opinion is important to me. Would you please restate with a bit more detail? Thanks!
Alternating travel direction makes a nice pattern. Thirty years ago when I was doing this, I ran the travel direction the same way each time, i.e. start at the rear of the bolt for each row, off set by half diameter both ways. Honestly, I think yours looks better. Incidentally a 1911 barrel hood looks good jeweled.
Easily got my thumbs up! Was no stupid music, got to hear the actual sounds of the processes, no stupid ai narrations, and the video was played in normal speed. Thanks for sharing
Thanks, I did have to speed it up when I was going back and forth or you would have been watching for an hour :). I appreciate the feedback. and your viewing.
Beautiful work! Jeweling adds a touch of class to any metal project; I'm working on a couple small copper sheets for trim in remodeling our 1986 vintage kitchen. JB Bore Cleaner works great on soft metal with a 1/2" Dremel polishing tip and Dremel drill press. The only turnbolt rifle I have left is the Mossberg .22 that my late brother used to impart the basics of safety and marksmanship to my much younger self some 66 years ago (rheumatoid arthritis has dictated soft recoiling semi-autos for my small centerfire stable). I've toyed with the idea of turning the flats of the hammer and trigger on my SP-101. Thanks to your generosity in sharing a bit of your hard earned knowledge and craftsmanship the only things barring the way are a dozen or so higher priority projects. Retirement is never boring. Thank you and God bless!
Thank you for the video. I'm currently enrolled at Sonoran Desert Institute for gunsmithing, and one of my courses is having me research jeweled bolts. I've learned that you can jewel more than bolts, though. I really enjoyed the video, and im really enjoying school.
I'm glad you are enjoying your school, Yes everything from Car parts to bolts and extractors, I have also seen it in some interior decorating. Thanks for watching and good luck in school.
Thank you. I had always wondered how this work was done. I can also appreciate why it is very much a choice, instead of being a routine operation, especially for items such as motor vehicle dashboards😁!
Ah yes, Jeweling, or Engine turning. Did this as a Service/Custom Gunsmith at Weatherby in Atascadero and Paso Robles for 12 years before the company relocated to Sheridan Wyoming. It demands utmost attention to keep the pattern straight and even from pass to pass. There were two ways of doing this 1). Wet: using lapping compound and brush as shown here. or 2). Dry: Using a fine grit impregnated rubber Krytex tip in a custom holder, mostly used to touch up existing jeweling.
I can't blame Weatherby for leaving California. A good friend of mine grew up in Paso Robles and ran a gun smithing shop out there in the 90s. He ultimately relocated to Montana.
@@floridagunrat1625 Yep, Gavin Newsome and the Dems made it nearly impossible to conduct business in Cali. Thankfully the governor of Wyoming secured loans for Weatherby to move and set-up there. It's a beautiful facility.
@@ditzydoo4378 YOU STOP DISSING GAVIN NEWSOME RIGHT NOW! He may have destroyed the firearms industry in California, but to make up for that he's authorized (through the Joseph Stalin Memorial Centralized Planning and Production Politburo of the Communist Party of the United States) an entirely new factory making rainbow-colored Dreamcatchers. There are a number of models from which to choose your favorite. -- The Khrushchev, which is short and round and is made from stripped corn cobs. -- The Lenin, which has a goatee-like group of feathers along the bottom. -- The Trotsky, which catches the dream but quickly loses it again through disillusion. ...and many more. Financial projections suggest the state of California is well-positioned to earn as much as $937.14 in the first year alone. Not bad, huh? So enough about your stinky old guns, okay? Besides, only the government should have guns, not -citizens- _subjects._ Right...?
I once used the Krytex method on the exposed flat side of a customer's shotgun bolt. I was curious to see how hard it would be and did not charge him for it. It was tedious and easy to screw up so I never did another one.
And Savage Model 99's! At least my dad's later 284Win has it. I just found out from a couple people that you were in Buxton! I have seen your work over the years and was always impressed but never knew you were right close! I'll have to stop in some day.
I love this finish, as a watchmaker we call it Perlage, its such a gorgeous finish! We use something called Pin polishers which are basically 1mm-3mm in diameter and made of a rubber compound with diamond or other abrasive grit impregnated within the rubber, we use it in the same fashion on a drill press of sorts, not sure if they would work as well for rounded surfaces like these as we normally are using them on flat surfaces, but i would love to see someone try using one instead of the bristles.
@@1991Green I’m not sure who you talked with but that is not true. Email me info@turnbullcustomguns.com you may have contacted Turnbull restoration. That is a different company.
It looks great, but I'm more excited by :D _Two_ o-rings! I dunno why I hadn't reconsidered using _two_ after needing to switch to waxed-cord over _one_ o-ring the last time the brushes in my carpet-cleaner got far too soft. Thank you; this could save me so much -time and- effort ... :/ if I remember to get hundreds of o-rings before I need them... :I and the second ring stays in place without being ground into the carpet... :) Still making a note to try, I'm certain that whoever uses it next will let me know.
I don't think that one was around when I went to school in NC. at that time there was only one other Motgomery Tech. Learn everything you can while you are there.
When I was in gunsmithing school in the 80s, one of the common projects for students was to make their own bolt jeweling jigs. unfortunately, many of the popular gunsmithing services have fallen out of favor with the higher cost of labor and cheaper cost of new guns. Rat
mmm, not a huge fan of Perlée, but i do appreciate things making the rounds outside of horology. makes sure artisan techniques and ways of making things don't get lost to time.
B-sqare no longer makes those jigs and I have struggled to find one used anywhere, so I built one of my own out of wood. Do you guys know of any other manufacturer who makes one or even where I might find plans/diagrams to make one similar?
You’re not the first person to ask that question. I’ve never had a jeweled bolt rust. I can only point to the fact the the micro swirls hold the oil and prevent rust. It also can make the bolt slicker or smother for the same reason. Thanks for watching.
Great Question. the micro abrasion in the pattern helps retain oil which helps repel moisture. Some also say this helps to provide a smoother bolt for the same reasons. Thanks for watching.
Do people realize the value of the information being presented here. Turnbull’s are some of the most amazing firearms I’ve ever manipulated. This is priceless.
This isn’t Doug Turnbull
Okay, who else out there misses the days when craftsmanship like this was considered the Quality Norm rather than the exception?
Remember anything and everything ever built using American-engineered and American-manufactured electric motors? How the machines they drove lasted multiple generations, and then after 87 years continuous duty the motors were disassembled, cleaned, lubricated, given new commutator brushes, and then put back into service for another three or four generations after the shells were stripped and repainted?
It's the electric motors I remember the most. I have an original Baldor buffer that sounds like a choir of angels when running and requires about two minutes to come to rest after switching off. The original HVAC blower motor in my house was still going strong when the entire HVAC system had to be replaced (for other reasons) after forty years of continuous service.
Anyone remember stuff like that? It was everywhere, all the time, and it was our Baseline Expectation for everything in our lives.
Boy, it did my old heart a lot of good watching this craftsman turn out (okay, pun intended) a beautiful piece of truly functional equipment in the current environment of the cheap Chinese slap-dash manufacturing garbage with which we're being inundated today.
Thanks for this, Turnbull.
Thank you for the kind words!
I remember those days. I miss them.
@@johnpublic6582 I remember the very first time I saw a jeweled bolt when I was a kid, and it was the most beautiful piece of machinery I'd ever seen.
I miss those days, too, my friend.
Its a matter of trust, isn't it. I sure don't trust any of that.
@@mk12pickle I don't understand what you mean, but I would like to because your opinion is important to me. Would you please restate with a bit more detail? Thanks!
Alternating travel direction makes a nice pattern. Thirty years ago when I was doing this, I ran the travel direction the same way each time, i.e. start at the rear of the bolt for each row, off set by half diameter both ways. Honestly, I think yours looks better. Incidentally a 1911 barrel hood looks good jeweled.
Thank you, I bet it does. I may have to try that.
Easily got my thumbs up! Was no stupid music, got to hear the actual sounds of the processes, no stupid ai narrations, and the video was played in normal speed. Thanks for sharing
Thanks, I did have to speed it up when I was going back and forth or you would have been watching for an hour :). I appreciate the feedback. and your viewing.
Very nice! I will probably never do this but glad to see how it's done. Knowledge is the best tool in your toolbox.
O-ring trick is genius, thanks for sharing
That's crazy gorgeous looking. The patience and skill level is very apparent. Cheers
Thank you!
Thanks for sharing your craftsmanship. Beautiful outcome.
thank you!
Beautiful work! Jeweling adds a touch of class to any metal project; I'm working on a couple small copper sheets for trim in remodeling our 1986 vintage kitchen. JB Bore Cleaner works great on soft metal with a 1/2" Dremel polishing tip and Dremel drill press. The only turnbolt rifle I have left is the Mossberg .22 that my late brother used to impart the basics of safety and marksmanship to my much younger self some 66 years ago (rheumatoid arthritis has dictated soft recoiling semi-autos for my small centerfire stable). I've toyed with the idea of turning the flats of the hammer and trigger on my SP-101. Thanks to your generosity in sharing a bit of your hard earned knowledge and craftsmanship the only things barring the way are a dozen or so higher priority projects. Retirement is never boring. Thank you and God bless!
Thank you for the video. I'm currently enrolled at Sonoran Desert Institute for gunsmithing, and one of my courses is having me research jeweled bolts. I've learned that you can jewel more than bolts, though. I really enjoyed the video, and im really enjoying school.
I'm glad you are enjoying your school, Yes everything from Car parts to bolts and extractors, I have also seen it in some interior decorating. Thanks for watching and good luck in school.
Thank you. I had always wondered how this work was done. I can also appreciate why it is very much a choice, instead of being a routine operation, especially for items such as motor vehicle dashboards😁!
Beautiful. I bet this looks gorgeous in person. I'll have to try this. Thanks for sharing.
Another professional job. Congrats.
Thanks,
Ah yes, Jeweling, or Engine turning. Did this as a Service/Custom Gunsmith at Weatherby in Atascadero and Paso Robles for 12 years before the company relocated to Sheridan Wyoming. It demands utmost attention to keep the pattern straight and even from pass to pass. There were two ways of doing this 1). Wet: using lapping compound and brush as shown here. or 2). Dry: Using a fine grit impregnated rubber Krytex tip in a custom holder, mostly used to touch up existing jeweling.
I can't blame Weatherby for leaving California. A good friend of mine grew up in Paso Robles and ran a gun smithing shop out there in the 90s.
He ultimately relocated to Montana.
@@floridagunrat1625 Yep, Gavin Newsome and the Dems made it nearly impossible to conduct business in Cali. Thankfully the governor of Wyoming secured loans for Weatherby to move and set-up there. It's a beautiful facility.
@@ditzydoo4378 YOU STOP DISSING GAVIN NEWSOME RIGHT NOW! He may have destroyed the firearms industry in California, but to make up for that he's authorized (through the Joseph Stalin Memorial Centralized Planning and Production Politburo of the Communist Party of the United States) an entirely new factory making rainbow-colored Dreamcatchers.
There are a number of models from which to choose your favorite.
-- The Khrushchev, which is short and round and is made from stripped corn cobs.
-- The Lenin, which has a goatee-like group of feathers along the bottom.
-- The Trotsky, which catches the dream but quickly loses it again through disillusion.
...and many more.
Financial projections suggest the state of California is well-positioned to earn as much as $937.14 in the first year alone. Not bad, huh?
So enough about your stinky old guns, okay? Besides, only the government should have guns, not -citizens- _subjects._
Right...?
I once used the Krytex method on the exposed flat side of a customer's shotgun bolt. I was curious to see how hard it would be and did not charge him for it. It was tedious and easy to screw up so I never did another one.
@@Paladin1873 it is that. The material is so fragile to excessive pressure. This being why we only used it for touch ups.
Seen a guy jewel a knife blade with a very dull end mill. He put just enough pressure on it to cause a lil heat swirl color to it.
Came out so nice 👌🏻 thing of beauty
And Savage Model 99's! At least my dad's later 284Win has it. I just found out from a couple people that you were in Buxton! I have seen your work over the years and was always impressed but never knew you were right close! I'll have to stop in some day.
Please do! thanks for watching the video.
I've always wanted to see how that was done. Thanks.
That looks awesome!
I love this finish, as a watchmaker we call it Perlage, its such a gorgeous finish! We use something called Pin polishers which are basically 1mm-3mm in diameter and made of a rubber compound with diamond or other abrasive grit impregnated within the rubber, we use it in the same fashion on a drill press of sorts, not sure if they would work as well for rounded surfaces like these as we normally are using them on flat surfaces, but i would love to see someone try using one instead of the bristles.
Let me know where I may be able to get some and I would love to try it.
Look good. I wish you offered this service. When I inquired I was told you don’t work on bolt guns.
@@1991Green I’m not sure who you talked with but that is not true. Email me info@turnbullcustomguns.com you may have contacted Turnbull restoration. That is a different company.
I always wander how that was done. Great job.
Thanks!
you can also use a aluminium rod with liege pad and sand paper 1000 and a litle bit fine oil
Always wondered how it was done. Now I know Thanks
The wire brush was interesting, I have to try that next time. I have used a rubber tip before, plus grinding paste.
Thanks for sharing your experience
It looks great, but I'm more excited by
:D _Two_ o-rings! I dunno why I hadn't reconsidered using _two_ after needing to switch to waxed-cord over _one_ o-ring the last time the brushes in my carpet-cleaner got far too soft.
Thank you; this could save me so much -time and- effort ...
:/ if I remember to get hundreds of o-rings before I need them...
:I and the second ring stays in place without being ground into the carpet...
:) Still making a note to try, I'm certain that whoever uses it next will let me know.
Great job. Thank you 😊
Very nice work, thank you
Great job fellow Mainer!
Thanks, Glad we have some of us Mainers watching :)
So thats it. How do you keep it from rusting now that you took off the blueing
I was wandering if you know anything about Savage 170 feeding issues or how to fix the problem
wonder if you could do the jeweling then blue it after that
I’m sure you can… never done it though. Another thing to try out. My viewers are full of great ideas
Very pretty.
Thanks for the education
I don't think that one was around when I went to school in NC. at that time there was only one other Motgomery Tech. Learn everything you can while you are there.
What are you using after the jeweling to preserve the metal surface?
Just a thin coat of oil will keep it from rusting.
@@Turnbullcustomguns thanks! I'm currently in a gsm program in NC and would love to try this on one of my bolt guns in class.
@@ericwrobleski8545 Which one, I graduated from the Gunsmithing program at PCC in North Carolina
Just oil on the bolt is fine That is how they come from the factory..
@@Turnbullcustomguns ftcc gunsmithing program in Fayetteville nc.
Sweet!
Be great if you listed the exact parts used, brush, orings, paste, etc. if your getting from brownells the part number too.
A stainless Beretta 92 barrel would look good.
very cool
That fixture is no longer available anywhere would you mind sharing the dimensions I'd really like to build one... Thanks
Sure can, I have made them in the past. I'm in Florida currently but when I get back I'll do a quick video on the information needed to make one.
When I was in gunsmithing school in the 80s, one of the common projects for students was to make their own bolt jeweling jigs. unfortunately, many of the popular gunsmithing services have fallen out of favor with the higher cost of labor and cheaper cost of new guns.
Rat
What is the vice tool you used?
mmm, not a huge fan of Perlée, but i do appreciate things making the rounds outside of horology. makes sure artisan techniques and ways of making things don't get lost to time.
I can remember my pop using pen erasers in a drill press to do this. I went through school with eraser-less pens!
Thats a great memory. I've herd of that as well.
Wonderful!,,
B-sqare no longer makes those jigs and I have struggled to find one used anywhere, so I built one of my own out of wood. Do you guys know of any other manufacturer who makes one or even where I might find plans/diagrams to make one similar?
I think I'll be doing a future video outlining how to build one.
What type of bristle material is the brush? Stainless?
Yup stainless
@@Turnbullcustomguns thanks!
What the little brush called and where do you get them ?
Is this also called pearling?
I haven’t heard it called that, but that doesn’t mean some people don’t , I have also heard it called Engine Turning.
How do you keep that from rusting?
You’re not the first person to ask that question. I’ve never had a jeweled bolt rust. I can only point to the fact the the micro swirls hold the oil and prevent rust. It also can make the bolt slicker or smother for the same reason. Thanks for watching.
Could you do a spiral pattern?
@@markt5450 I haven’t tried… but that sounds like a neat idea
I would love to see it done! Your work is amazing!
Thank you, I may have to try it
What keeps it from rusting?
Great Question. the micro abrasion in the pattern helps retain oil which helps repel moisture. Some also say this helps to provide a smoother bolt for the same reasons. Thanks for watching.
What can one expect to pay for this service?
Around 75.00 thanks for watching
allso called engine turning
Dude stole the ramaken from Applebee's to mix his grinding compound.
Worse, I stole it from my Wife!
Beautiful.