It's like he trained himself up for years playing against one person, and the person was Daigo, but every time Daigo tried to give him verbal instruction, he'd just laugh and call him a nerd.
Funny isn’t gonna work on me cause if he takes me seriously he will lose ! And by the way I m not the type of guy who doesn’t fight back and keep blocking !! Hell no !
He’s a reverse psychology player. He knows that the other player assumes it would be dumb for him to do a certain move and doesn’t defend against it.. so he does that dumb risky move
That's legit the secret of the heart player. We know what you expect us to do so we do the opposite. This guy is just straight up the final form of a heart player.
Damn this is a godlike video idea. Jyobin was one of my favorite players to watch back in SF4. He is also a MMA fighter in Japan, he's just built different lol
Jyobin plays in SFV too. He's calculated crazy. He plays like he practices all the time then plays like he's talking to somone next to him and not even looking at the screen.
He got top8 on EVO Japan 2019 and had a real chance to eliminate Punk, who was at the top of his game back then. He ultimately lost but if you can find it, it's a really fun match.
Nearly half of Jyobin's fights in this video are against top online players from back in the day, not randos (time stamps according to this video, not the original) 2:23 ProudStrawberry (Gouken) 4:51 ACE E I RI N (Guile player, aka Blue Emblem) 12:05 GiPie (El Fuerte) 15:17 FenTamu (Yun) 17:34 shiro346 (Makoto) 17:55 Zeny53 (El Fuerte) 18:32 sontyotu (Hakan) 19:52 Kiryu Tsukimiya (Guy) 20:10 shinba abel (Abel) 21:45 galtu111111 (Akuma) 23:34 oshino215 (Adon) 25:05 piyoppia (Sagat) 26:19 roxas0427 (Seth) 26:37 inaba360 (Seth player, but playing Balrog here) 28:52 OTinhoso (Guy) 28:55 ACQUA0316 (Cammy)
Jyobin so godlike. The level of knowledge and skill you have to have to play like this and win is crazy. He knows how to play, and intentionally does unorthodox stuff.
I mean the triple overhead works because most people are going to be similar to me, you get hit by an overhead and you just go: "These things happen, don't open up low over it." Because really, who overheads you three times in a row?
@@ignis488 the walk up and throw def solbadguy that two frame throw is toxic and the fact he can rush down and zone and grapple all at once while being effective and safe on block with most moves is beyond me.
my homeboy is absolutely assaulting the mental stack, this is the exact kind of player I hate being against because you're on the backfoot the whole time
Jyobin is a 'reading' and 'rhythmic' strategist. The key is to anticipate your opponent's movements in advance and then get them out of their "rhythm" into your own, using guessing-game tactics, un-orthodox twitch timing, and a bit of "reverse reflex psychology" (do the opposite of what you would expect, if you were your opponent). I used to embarrass people the same way growing up in the arcades. Using over heads, sweeps, DPs or throws in unorthodox or unexpected rhythm always confusing my opponent to point of death. lol.
It's really crazy how even simple stuff like "stand there and do nothing for half a second" can so thoroughly mess with your opponent. I've been on both sides of that and it's like your brain just stops working as soon as the game flow breaks from that rhythm you're used to.
@@SSM24_ I noticed this kinda thing not in fighting games, but in Hollow Knight. Specifically, it's a well-known phenomenon that if you ever get hit by Nightmare King Grimm, you're probably gonna get hit two or three more times. It's cause getting hit suddenly breaks the rhythm that's so important to that fight, and this also happens (slightly differently ofc) in fighting games.
I often think about that fgc meme and how it applies to other aspects of life lol. The one where it's like you start at "idk I'm just pressing buttons", then you become the person whos always thinking about frame data and strategy etc etc, and then finally you reach expert status and it goes back to "idk I'm just pressing buttons".
Hell yes, I love this type of in-depth analysis about the fine line between madness and genius: really well-crafted presentation here that even a casual like me can understand! This is right up there with some of my other favorites I love like FSP vs Gandhi and Sajam's "Your Neutral Doesn't Have to be Clean to be Effective."
@@rpgdreamer8690Literally, actually. The idea "be like water" means to flow with your opponent, react and trust your body, move freely. This man flows.
Wildcard gameplay is very fun. It’s intriguing because the gameplay is chaotic but the knowledge is there because you can scheme this. Great job covering this.
The fact that he air tatsus just for movement is a sign of extreme familiarity with Ryu. This is a very aggressive style but it's well thought out - he's using high-stun moves so his repeated gambles are well worth it because he only needs to read his opponent a few times to take the round.
The thing with these types of play styles is that they rely on the opponent to, for lack of a better term, let it happen. Trying to keep yourself conventional and use normal adaptations to beat this sort of style rarely works because he's feeding off of conventional tactics. Just trying to play neutral CAN work, however hyper aggression is one of the two ways to win without trying to play neutral (the other being to play hyper defensively). Your best shot against this is to do whatever it takes to force respect from your opponent. Dp in particular is very good for doing this, but just mashing a good button can also work too. The goal here is to force them to slow down the game. By playing on their terms for a bit, you can force them to play on yours, and once the game has slowed down your conventional tactics will start working again.
It depends on both the skill and mindset of the player. Many who play this style get overwhelmed or flustered when you push/pull to the extreme. On the other hand, the really solid competitors with this style are really good at either reading or gameplanning. They will have one good punish ready after baiting the style change to push you even further off balance.
There is a good compilation out there on Jyobin called, "don't think just do it"! It's real good. He also once took daigos spot in a tournament as back up...and won. In SF5 he tried to keep his wild Ryu but the game nerfed him so he then had a solid necalli.
I always thought Jyobin was just a masher like Gamerbee until I saw that FA trade into sweep. What's even crazier is that if you look closely, you can see him take a micro step forward before doing the sweep. That is insane reactions. So now I'm of the opinion that he just plays entirely by feel with nothing but reads and reactions and no concern for playing the "right way".
This is an honest question, for someone who wants to get into Street Fighter how do learn to play the "right way"? I love watching the Pros but I don't play, but if I ever want to start playing, could you point me where?
@@chestercastillo2703 Just play. That's how everyone who got into Street Fighter got into it. You don't even have to start by playing SF, any fighting game will do.
Yeah, I was blown away when I first saw it. Did he knew it was gonna trade, or he actually made up his mind with the followup in that split second, in that once in a blue moon circumstance? Either way his mind must've been calm as still water, to think about the microwalk.
Jyobin is an MMA fighter in japan. You can find some video where he train casual IRL his Necalli against his friend Daigo. Absolutely not a random. There is so many OS in this video you can't do.
@@austinjrb Option select. When you see him doing ryu's overhead. Everytime he is buffering dragon into it. If the overhead is touching. This state has priority over dragon input. If it whiff nothing is blocking the dragon and as soon as the OH anim finished, dragon will go out. Hence the name option select. If first choice is not working I have an automatic second one to cover it. This is a very high end tech in SF4. All of high level players are using it
This kinda reminds me of a player in DBFZ, I believe called Hyde Gackt. He was the #1 player on the leaderboard till he eventually got dethroned, but he mashed like nuts. If you watched his replays, he'd mash L before round start. He'd randomly use 3-4 heavies in neutral and Dragon Rush out of hitstun. If his auto combo mash didn't work the first time, maybe it'd work the third time, but it was really hard to say he wasn't good when he was literally #1.
Hands down the most entertaining SFIV player, I would absolutely lose my mind if I ever played with him but watching him play against other people is the most fun I've ever had watching SFIV.
I really like this video not just because it shows that doing off-meta stuff in fighting games is frequently really good, but also explains why it's good in enough detail to deny new players the OS of handwaving bad decisions with "Oh I'm just being the next Kusoru"
Absolutely love when we get some jm commentating on particularly interesting plays- so hearing you go over a particularly interesting PLAYER is a delight.
I haven't played SF4, and have zero knowledge about the game and Jyobin, but still loved the video. You explain things so amazingly well and make it clear how ridiculous something is even to a noob like me.
I looooooooooved watching JYobin back in the day. His replays are golden. In terms of not knowing what to expect, it’s probably between him and Pepeday as my all time favorites.
This was funniest and most enlightening breakdown ive ever watched. I definitely thought Jyobin was random and to some extent he is, but there are some strong decisions being made throughout this highlight video.
Love this video!! Really enjoyed it, found myself laughing along with you in the parts where you were laughing! Jyobin really is a hilariously chaotic but effective player. I never knew he was quite so intentional about his moves though.
I don't watch tournaments that often but this really just looks so, so much more entertaining than top level play because his reflexes are so fast and it doesn't look like minutes of footsies and crouch blocking where every single movement from the combatants is so risk calculated or risk averse where it's very clear they do not *want* to lose with every decision, to the point you can almost feel the constant fear and caution in the interaction by both players. This dude looks like he's just having an absolute blast playing and I don't feel the same sort of apprehension when he's behind the controller.
@@mrosskne it is? For some reason I thought this was just online play and the dude would occasionally match with pros during online matches or something. Is some of this tournament footage?
Jyobin is the same field mindset as Daigo, they just like to catch the habit of opponents and punish them. Daigo doing walk up throw from wake up is a habit counter to opponents keep doing shimmy
Making a lot of "09'ers" happy talking about the ol'sf4 Era of legends and famous old matches. I'd love to see something on the masters of the do nothing blanka Mizoteru and riceta and a breakdown of the latter's match against daigo at Canada cup. A boring thing of beauty
Pressed the like the button because I liked the video and you asked bro! I know this video is a year old but I just recently stumbled upon it and I really enjoy them man have a good week
The guy I play most against in Strive plays Sol like that. It looks funny and random, but I feel like this is the most scary playstyle. I still barely can adapt. I can beat much higher rated fundamentally sound players with much less fear of choosing options. Good random players who know what they are doing inspire real fear, especially if they have a dp.
This reminds me how kids play chess and do things just because they like to, but adults try to understand why they are doing what they do when in reality shoryu is just fun to them.
The funniest part of this is that if you watch his inputs, even when he whiffs it's crystal clear and cohesive. Then you watch his opponent and they're pressing all buttons at once and just mashing everywhere
The FGC accepts brain players and body players, but not heart players. This is a pure heart player. He doesn't need to memorize combos, he just has a feel for everything his character can do. I don't think saying he's a strategic genius is quite the truth
He definitely has plenty of combo knowledge, labbing is pretty much the only way you can grasp some of those niche set ups and one-frame links, like seriously you don't just "feel" that you can Ultra after Fireball in neutral because that shit only works on CH and even then you need to be on the fucking ball But good combo knowledge isn't just memory of optimized situations, its niche ones, and the ability to freestyle shit out of bizarre spots because you know enough to piece together stuff at weird ranges and positions
Glad you're back! I like this type of video, though I don't know much about SF4 so some things went over my head. I'd have liked some more explanations for SF4 specific stuff, but I don't know if I'm in the majority here.
Just found you out recently but love the SF4 content. I could never get into this game because I can't fadc or link to save my life but I still think it's the GOAT when it comes to watching pro play.
Great breakdown video, it shows an interesting point of view on SF4's gameplay and I think it's a good demonstration on how it gives you complete freedom on your playstyle like few fighting games do. I'd LOVE to see a video like this for the good old "Gandhi (Ryu) vs FSP (Rufus)". It would be a breakdown into the breakdown the commentators themselves did back in the day. I apology in case you already did it (I'm new to the channel).
based on the opening fight scene i say my guy is pretty crafty.... very intentional decision making... . watching him come with something aggressive and entertaining is awesome!
I think that full charge focus into wiff sweep was probably him just laughing his ass off, if i said fuck it and went for that and it worked i'd prolly pop off and walk away i've already won🤣
Something I'm really noticing when watching this: he's rarely doing combos. He CAN do combos, and very well at that, but his main strength is having the mother of all game sense. To know the one single move that counters what his opponent is doing, even/especially if it looks like the dumbest thing ever. I think a lot of fighting game players just see combos as a default signifier of skill; this player must be good, they're doing good combos. Therefore, someone not doing combos must be bad, even if they're winning from it.
This is a smart guy who's good at the game, but doesn't take it too seriously because he knows how to properly have fun. I've never heard of this guy, but I already really really like him a lot.
That "random" c.hp after Yun's dive kick was a crouch tech; he pressed c.hp, c.lp, c.lk. At about 16:16, it looks like maybe he did a slight walk backward before the tatsu. He would have blocked Guy's EX tatsu. This guy is doing option selects that are hard to detect.
@13:40 Not only was the DP a good followup, but the early jumping roundhouse itself was good in the El Fuerte matchup, because El Fuerte does a lot of unreactable and difficult to react to stuff in the air, and if you stand still trying to react to all of it, you let him take the initiative and you get run over. You have to just throw out pre emptive stuff against El Fuerte, and find ways to be the aggressor.
Great video. I knew who it was gonna be about right after seeing the thumbnail. I definitely remember seeing replays of him getting destroyed by some good defensive play though. As in - the other player essentially wins the round by punishing after 3 blocked DPs 😂
@14:29 - Actually you can do that with 1 bar, mid screen, off buttons. Close MK xx EX FB -> ultra 1. Works on most of the cast, but the timing is tighter on some vs. others. I don't think it worked until Arcade edition. I found that at socal regionals back in 2010.
I never laughed so much on this analysis!! And I remember watching this dude years ago, never understood his game but this was fucking great!!! WE NEED MORE OF THIS!! Gotta make this an episode
Watching this guy in SF4 (and Kuni in SF3) makes you realize that Ryu is so plain that he actually loops around to becoming a character for crazy people. If the Joker played Street Fighter he would be a Ryu main.
This guy is proof that the only difference between random and godlike is if it works
If diago does it: He's Godlike He's big brain
If anyone else does it: You're weird, Random, or a psycho.
Umeshoryu
@@diosama4512 the difference between you and daigo is daigo knows what he’s doing
SF4 is cheese
@@evanmeeks ?
Jyobin is just a man that saw everyone using flowcharts and vortexs in the early days of SF4 and felt deeply offended by it.
LMAO
'Fucking nerds'
Soooo he just became the flowchart?
@@BigDaddyKnezhe broke the charts
It's like he trained himself up for years playing against one person, and the person was Daigo, but every time Daigo tried to give him verbal instruction, he'd just laugh and call him a nerd.
Chad Jyobin
He is a MMA fighter in japan and friend of Daigo, so this comment is accurate, lol.
thats literally just my relationship w my friend whenever we hop on Strive bruh 💀
@@KaptainKommissar your friend is trying to make you better bruh please listen
i also have a friend that does this on strive so i feel your friend
Amazing 😂 @@FA-nd9uk
Jyobin was one of the funniest players to watch, dude didnt give two shits about how he played, a true legend.
It looks like he took the phrase "a good defense is an even better offense" to heart because I didn't see him block a single time.
Funny isn’t gonna work on me cause if he takes me seriously he will lose ! And by the way I m not the type of guy who doesn’t fight back and keep blocking !! Hell no !
@@manafbenayache1880 clown behavior. Let us see your top level evo gameplay :)
@@Dhampire1976 hahahahh he watch too much dbz
@@Dhampire1976 who needs evo when you can just get a gun and kill people
I love watching him do like five overheads in a row and having it work perfectly cause who tf would ever lab counterplay to FIVE CONSECUTIVE OVERHEADS
His opponents know there is a dragon OS if they try to jump or counter poke.
@@huguesssosse5193 They don't know it *will* happen, but they know it *can,* and that constant threat is something Jyobin clearly knows how to use
@@juniperrodley9843 true
Me, because all my friends are mashers.
He’s a reverse psychology player.
He knows that the other player assumes it would be dumb for him to do a certain move and doesn’t defend against it.. so he does that dumb risky move
That's legit the secret of the heart player. We know what you expect us to do so we do the opposite. This guy is just straight up the final form of a heart player.
@@TakumiJoyconBoyz exactly. I love this style of play! Its super fun but you need to know your character/game very well
just like me fr
its not dumb if it works. its just offmeta and punishes meta slaves
@@TakumiJoyconBoyz WHAT DO U MEAN BY HEART PLAYER?
Damn this is a godlike video idea. Jyobin was one of my favorite players to watch back in SF4. He is also a MMA fighter in Japan, he's just built different lol
I’m a pretty good fighter and this is exactly how I play video games. Maybe there’s something to that.
@@oneDonly "if it works why not keep doing it?"
- average combat sports person
@@saebkahled9260 It's common sense though
@@sugoi9680 it is but some of people are kinda afraid to look boring or spammy ye know?. that's more common in fighting games idk about combat sports.
@@oneDonly there isn’t
Jyobin plays in SFV too. He's calculated crazy. He plays like he practices all the time then plays like he's talking to somone next to him and not even looking at the screen.
He got top8 on EVO Japan 2019 and had a real chance to eliminate Punk, who was at the top of his game back then. He ultimately lost but if you can find it, it's a really fun match.
Nearly half of Jyobin's fights in this video are against top online players from back in the day, not randos (time stamps according to this video, not the original)
2:23 ProudStrawberry (Gouken)
4:51 ACE E I RI N (Guile player, aka Blue Emblem)
12:05 GiPie (El Fuerte)
15:17 FenTamu (Yun)
17:34 shiro346 (Makoto)
17:55 Zeny53 (El Fuerte)
18:32 sontyotu (Hakan)
19:52 Kiryu Tsukimiya (Guy)
20:10 shinba abel (Abel)
21:45 galtu111111 (Akuma)
23:34 oshino215 (Adon)
25:05 piyoppia (Sagat)
26:19 roxas0427 (Seth)
26:37 inaba360 (Seth player, but playing Balrog here)
28:52 OTinhoso (Guy)
28:55 ACQUA0316 (Cammy)
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yeah I remember binging thru LianghuBBB's vids back in the day, and these are the most common players.. his compilations are truly godlike
Damn, the nostalgia hit me hard.
Straight outta those YogaFlame24 replays, holy shit the nostalgia
Yeah and there’s a respect that people give their number. So they aren’t expecting that type of play and get blown up
Jyobin so godlike. The level of knowledge and skill you have to have to play like this and win is crazy. He knows how to play, and intentionally does unorthodox stuff.
Someone: Just play SF without blocking
Jyobin: hold my beer
"I didn't play $60 to block"
@@bassbusterxReal stuff
Jyobin is what happens when you divide randomness by 0. He's not random, he's just unreadable
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@@uhohcuzzo facts
I mean the triple overhead works because most people are going to be similar to me, you get hit by an overhead and you just go: "These things happen, don't open up low over it."
Because really, who overheads you three times in a row?
JYOBIN
XD
just like who is gonna do potemkin buster 3 times in a row, or run up grab 3 times in arow ?
The no-mixup mixup is real.
@@ignis488 Just walk up slowly and down smash
@@ignis488 the walk up and throw def solbadguy that two frame throw is toxic and the fact he can rush down and zone and grapple all at once while being effective and safe on block with most moves is beyond me.
This guy really is a situational awareness god.
my homeboy is absolutely assaulting the mental stack, this is the exact kind of player I hate being against because you're on the backfoot the whole time
If you're not tht good of course it'll be a problem for you
@@dmcfail987 most of the people jyobin is fighting against in the video are good players
@@dmcfail987 ah yes, coming from "dmcfail 98" lmao. Home boy's got his birth year in his name lmao.
@@dmcfail987 This video shows him blitzing indisputably incredibly skilled players.
Jyobin is a 'reading' and 'rhythmic' strategist. The key is to anticipate your opponent's movements in advance and then get them out of their "rhythm" into your own, using guessing-game tactics, un-orthodox twitch timing, and a bit of "reverse reflex psychology" (do the opposite of what you would expect, if you were your opponent). I used to embarrass people the same way growing up in the arcades. Using over heads, sweeps, DPs or throws in unorthodox or unexpected rhythm always confusing my opponent to point of death. lol.
It's really crazy how even simple stuff like "stand there and do nothing for half a second" can so thoroughly mess with your opponent. I've been on both sides of that and it's like your brain just stops working as soon as the game flow breaks from that rhythm you're used to.
This is how I play fighting games and when it works, it is beautiful
@@SSM24_ I noticed this kinda thing not in fighting games, but in Hollow Knight. Specifically, it's a well-known phenomenon that if you ever get hit by Nightmare King Grimm, you're probably gonna get hit two or three more times. It's cause getting hit suddenly breaks the rhythm that's so important to that fight, and this also happens (slightly differently ofc) in fighting games.
If you know your opponent is kind of better than you and you forced them out of their comfort zone it's efficient
"confusing enemies to death"
Godlike
I often think about that fgc meme and how it applies to other aspects of life lol. The one where it's like you start at "idk I'm just pressing buttons", then you become the person whos always thinking about frame data and strategy etc etc, and then finally you reach expert status and it goes back to "idk I'm just pressing buttons".
Look at those links, he might be a bit unga at times but he certainly is good. I love it
Hell yes, I love this type of in-depth analysis about the fine line between madness and genius: really well-crafted presentation here that even a casual like me can understand! This is right up there with some of my other favorites I love like FSP vs Gandhi and Sajam's "Your Neutral Doesn't Have to be Clean to be Effective."
How do you beat an opponent that tries to read your thoughts? Have no thoughts.
🤯 Reminds me of Bruce Lee's "Be like water". Is Jyobin the 'Bruce Lee' of Street Fighter?
@@rpgdreamer8690 🤦♀
Exactly
@@rpgdreamer8690Literally, actually. The idea "be like water" means to flow with your opponent, react and trust your body, move freely. This man flows.
This dude has an EXTREMELY great knowledge of fundamentals. If he didn’t , there would be no way he could pull this stuff off.
Wildcard gameplay is very fun. It’s intriguing because the gameplay is chaotic but the knowledge is there because you can scheme this. Great job covering this.
The fact that he air tatsus just for movement is a sign of extreme familiarity with Ryu. This is a very aggressive style but it's well thought out - he's using high-stun moves so his repeated gambles are well worth it because he only needs to read his opponent a few times to take the round.
The Grappler mindset attached to Ryu is a goddamn horrifying concept
"I could play slow, or I could just hit you three times and you fucking die"
Watching a vid about Jyobin immediately after watching Brian F’s rant about execution and player expression is actually wild LMAO
The thing with these types of play styles is that they rely on the opponent to, for lack of a better term, let it happen. Trying to keep yourself conventional and use normal adaptations to beat this sort of style rarely works because he's feeding off of conventional tactics. Just trying to play neutral CAN work, however hyper aggression is one of the two ways to win without trying to play neutral (the other being to play hyper defensively). Your best shot against this is to do whatever it takes to force respect from your opponent. Dp in particular is very good for doing this, but just mashing a good button can also work too. The goal here is to force them to slow down the game. By playing on their terms for a bit, you can force them to play on yours, and once the game has slowed down your conventional tactics will start working again.
Very well said
It depends on both the skill and mindset of the player. Many who play this style get overwhelmed or flustered when you push/pull to the extreme.
On the other hand, the really solid competitors with this style are really good at either reading or gameplanning. They will have one good punish ready after baiting the style change to push you even further off balance.
There is a good compilation out there on Jyobin called, "don't think just do it"! It's real good.
He also once took daigos spot in a tournament as back up...and won.
In SF5 he tried to keep his wild Ryu but the game nerfed him so he then had a solid necalli.
Anwser: he is really good, he has a decent neutral, great com- what? what the fu- WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE
I always thought Jyobin was just a masher like Gamerbee until I saw that FA trade into sweep. What's even crazier is that if you look closely, you can see him take a micro step forward before doing the sweep. That is insane reactions. So now I'm of the opinion that he just plays entirely by feel with nothing but reads and reactions and no concern for playing the "right way".
This is an honest question, for someone who wants to get into Street Fighter how do learn to play the "right way"? I love watching the Pros but I don't play, but if I ever want to start playing, could you point me where?
@@chestercastillo2703 Just play. That's how everyone who got into Street Fighter got into it. You don't even have to start by playing SF, any fighting game will do.
Yeah, I was blown away when I first saw it. Did he knew it was gonna trade, or he actually made up his mind with the followup in that split second, in that once in a blue moon circumstance? Either way his mind must've been calm as still water, to think about the microwalk.
Gamerbee a masher..... Ok we never saw the same player.
@Chester Castillo just keep adapting.
Jyobin is an MMA fighter in japan. You can find some video where he train casual IRL his Necalli against his friend Daigo. Absolutely not a random. There is so many OS in this video you can't do.
What is OS?
Option select?
@@austinjrb Option select. When you see him doing ryu's overhead. Everytime he is buffering dragon into it.
If the overhead is touching. This state has priority over dragon input. If it whiff nothing is blocking the dragon and as soon as the OH anim finished, dragon will go out.
Hence the name option select. If first choice is not working I have an automatic second one to cover it.
This is a very high end tech in SF4. All of high level players are using it
@@huguesssosse5193 thank you bro, I enjoyed that analysis/breakdown
That EX hado tatsu combo only works if the fireball is counter hit too. The awareness of this man.
He see's frames before pictures are inserted.
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@@Ramsey276one I'm glad my corny dad joke made you reply. Hope your day is bless and the family.
yoooo it’s jyobin!!! this really takes me back to 2012 grinding SF4 and SFF4 AE. love Liang’s channel. man what a throwback!!!
This kinda reminds me of a player in DBFZ, I believe called Hyde Gackt. He was the #1 player on the leaderboard till he eventually got dethroned, but he mashed like nuts. If you watched his replays, he'd mash L before round start. He'd randomly use 3-4 heavies in neutral and Dragon Rush out of hitstun. If his auto combo mash didn't work the first time, maybe it'd work the third time, but it was really hard to say he wasn't good when he was literally #1.
Hands down the most entertaining SFIV player, I would absolutely lose my mind if I ever played with him but watching him play against other people is the most fun I've ever had watching SFIV.
I really like this video not just because it shows that doing off-meta stuff in fighting games is frequently really good, but also explains why it's good in enough detail to deny new players the OS of handwaving bad decisions with "Oh I'm just being the next Kusoru"
Man, all these paused moments that show how HILARIOUS Ryu's facial expressions look.
XD
tbh every sf4 character had hilarious facial expressions
Absolutely love when we get some jm commentating on particularly interesting plays- so hearing you go over a particularly interesting PLAYER is a delight.
I haven't played SF4, and have zero knowledge about the game and Jyobin, but still loved the video. You explain things so amazingly well and make it clear how ridiculous something is even to a noob like me.
I looooooooooved watching JYobin back in the day. His replays are golden. In terms of not knowing what to expect, it’s probably between him and Pepeday as my all time favorites.
Glad to see you're back. Hope you're feeling better
This was funniest and most enlightening breakdown ive ever watched. I definitely thought Jyobin was random and to some extent he is, but there are some strong decisions being made throughout this highlight video.
Love this video!! Really enjoyed it, found myself laughing along with you in the parts where you were laughing! Jyobin really is a hilariously chaotic but effective player. I never knew he was quite so intentional about his moves though.
I don't watch tournaments that often but this really just looks so, so much more entertaining than top level play because his reflexes are so fast and it doesn't look like minutes of footsies and crouch blocking where every single movement from the combatants is so risk calculated or risk averse where it's very clear they do not *want* to lose with every decision, to the point you can almost feel the constant fear and caution in the interaction by both players. This dude looks like he's just having an absolute blast playing and I don't feel the same sort of apprehension when he's behind the controller.
this is top level play
@@mrosskne it is? For some reason I thought this was just online play and the dude would occasionally match with pros during online matches or something. Is some of this tournament footage?
@@SilentZed Most top players don't start playing like casuals when they're getting practice online
Just want you to know jmcrofts that I appreciate you and your content.
Jyobin is a perfect case study in the power of conditioning, I think
Jyobin is the same field mindset as Daigo, they just like to catch the habit of opponents and punish them. Daigo doing walk up throw from wake up is a habit counter to opponents keep doing shimmy
Jyobin is a beast in 4 and 5. I can't wait to see him in 6
Making a lot of "09'ers" happy talking about the ol'sf4 Era of legends and famous old matches. I'd love to see something on the masters of the do nothing blanka Mizoteru and riceta and a breakdown of the latter's match against daigo at Canada cup. A boring thing of beauty
When Jyobin got top 8 at evo japan in SFV the emotion he showed made me a fan haha
The overhead onslaught is so godlike, I respect that kind of bullying
Is like seeing my little brother playing against me on his first time trying the game but actually knowing when to be random.
sick video as always. imo you really excel at breaking down situations like this, great stuff man!
Pressed the like the button because I liked the video and you asked bro! I know this video is a year old but I just recently stumbled upon it and I really enjoy them man have a good week
You know he's a legend when I knew who you were talking about just from the title
The guy I play most against in Strive plays Sol like that. It looks funny and random, but I feel like this is the most scary playstyle. I still barely can adapt. I can beat much higher rated fundamentally sound players with much less fear of choosing options. Good random players who know what they are doing inspire real fear, especially if they have a dp.
I lol'd at "going full helicopter-strats here."
This reminds me how kids play chess and do things just because they like to, but adults try to understand why they are doing what they do when in reality shoryu is just fun to them.
The people hating on Jyobin's style were probably the people getting absolutely bodied by him.
Smashed the like to help you out. Now I'm commenting to further help. Love the content JM
The second I saw the title of this video and the Ryu thumbnail, I had a feeling Jyobin was gonna be involved 😂 what a player man
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Good to hear you are back and you're healthy. Keep it up!
believe it or not I haven’t touch any SF game for 7 years at least but when i read ur title i knew it was him , he was that good
The funniest part of this is that if you watch his inputs, even when he whiffs it's crystal clear and cohesive. Then you watch his opponent and they're pressing all buttons at once and just mashing everywhere
The FGC accepts brain players and body players, but not heart players. This is a pure heart player. He doesn't need to memorize combos, he just has a feel for everything his character can do. I don't think saying he's a strategic genius is quite the truth
He definitely has plenty of combo knowledge, labbing is pretty much the only way you can grasp some of those niche set ups and one-frame links, like seriously you don't just "feel" that you can Ultra after Fireball in neutral because that shit only works on CH and even then you need to be on the fucking ball
But good combo knowledge isn't just memory of optimized situations, its niche ones, and the ability to freestyle shit out of bizarre spots because you know enough to piece together stuff at weird ranges and positions
Glad you're back! I like this type of video, though I don't know much about SF4 so some things went over my head. I'd have liked some more explanations for SF4 specific stuff, but I don't know if I'm in the majority here.
Did he win? Yes? Then he's a genius.
Just found you out recently but love the SF4 content. I could never get into this game because I can't fadc or link to save my life but I still think it's the GOAT when it comes to watching pro play.
Great breakdown video, it shows an interesting point of view on SF4's gameplay and I think it's a good demonstration on how it gives you complete freedom on your playstyle like few fighting games do. I'd LOVE to see a video like this for the good old "Gandhi (Ryu) vs FSP (Rufus)". It would be a breakdown into the breakdown the commentators themselves did back in the day. I apology in case you already did it (I'm new to the channel).
Love me a jmcrofts breakdown!
based on the opening fight scene i say my guy is pretty crafty.... very intentional decision making... . watching him come with something aggressive and entertaining is awesome!
Jyobin saw the meta. He saw that everyone crouch teched to punish.
He said "Nawh, I'mma do my own thing"
This was fun to watch. A lot of unique ways to counter common effective tactics. I want to believe it's all part of his plan.
Oh my god, that video is 10 years old, I remember being addicted watching sf4 replays, were my favorite pass time on youtube
I think that full charge focus into wiff sweep was probably him just laughing his ass off, if i said fuck it and went for that and it worked i'd prolly pop off and walk away i've already won🤣
You cannot possibly predict my next move … even I don’t know what I’m gonna do 😏
Just because an idiot can not predict his own next move does not mean another person can not.
i bet it's dp
@@genejas Wrong. It was raw lvl 3.
Jyobin made it to the EVO Japan 2019 top 8. Of course he is good.
"What are you talking about? That was some schoolyard bullshit."
"Right, let's do some schoolyard bullshit'
Very cool breakdown 😎
Classic Jyobin. Never a dull moment
Something I'm really noticing when watching this: he's rarely doing combos. He CAN do combos, and very well at that, but his main strength is having the mother of all game sense. To know the one single move that counters what his opponent is doing, even/especially if it looks like the dumbest thing ever.
I think a lot of fighting game players just see combos as a default signifier of skill; this player must be good, they're doing good combos. Therefore, someone not doing combos must be bad, even if they're winning from it.
You brought back some old school names I recognize...holy crap! This game was so sweaty in '09
When the video began I was laughing my @$$ off and about 11 minutes in I was like, wait a second...we may have something here 🤣🤣
This is a smart guy who's good at the game, but doesn't take it too seriously because he knows how to properly have fun. I've never heard of this guy, but I already really really like him a lot.
The OG random god Ghandi took his random moves to Dreamhack and beat a pro. That's worth looking at
That "random" c.hp after Yun's dive kick was a crouch tech; he pressed c.hp, c.lp, c.lk. At about 16:16, it looks like maybe he did a slight walk backward before the tatsu. He would have blocked Guy's EX tatsu. This guy is doing option selects that are hard to detect.
This player sounds like the player everyone wants to play, go all out and just have fun
You could probably put Ka Ka Kachi Daze in any of Jyobin's compilations, and it would be top tier comedy and skill.
@13:40 Not only was the DP a good followup, but the early jumping roundhouse itself was good in the El Fuerte matchup, because El Fuerte does a lot of unreactable and difficult to react to stuff in the air, and if you stand still trying to react to all of it, you let him take the initiative and you get run over. You have to just throw out pre emptive stuff against El Fuerte, and find ways to be the aggressor.
Great video. I knew who it was gonna be about right after seeing the thumbnail. I definitely remember seeing replays of him getting destroyed by some good defensive play though. As in - the other player essentially wins the round by punishing after 3 blocked DPs 😂
@14:29 - Actually you can do that with 1 bar, mid screen, off buttons. Close MK xx EX FB -> ultra 1. Works on most of the cast, but the timing is tighter on some vs. others. I don't think it worked until Arcade edition. I found that at socal regionals back in 2010.
You can't mindgame the mindless.
But Jyobin is not mindless, he just uses his mind where his opponent doesn't expect.
Dude was like "well, I kept DPing and it kept working"
I remember seeing videos of this guy back in the day and thinking that his style is incredibly fun to watch. You can tell he's enjoying himself.
His play style is so chaotic it's very funny and amazing at the same time. 🤣
I never laughed so much on this analysis!! And I remember watching this dude years ago, never understood his game but this was fucking great!!! WE NEED MORE OF THIS!! Gotta make this an episode
Watching this guy in SF4 (and Kuni in SF3) makes you realize that Ryu is so plain that he actually loops around to becoming a character for crazy people.
If the Joker played Street Fighter he would be a Ryu main.
Anytime you saw a match uploaded featuring him you knew you were in for a good time
About "if you miss a jump-in, 99% of the time they will do a throw. It's a law of nature."
This needs a 'Rules of Nature' edit.
Jyobin is the definition of "Good ol' DP, nothing beats that".
Saw the title and thumbnail and knew immediately who this video would be about. The best player you should never model your play around.