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MY MOST EPIC OFF ROAD EBIKE BUILD!!! | 1 YEAR ON HOW IS IT GOING??
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 เม.ย. 2020
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That Vapour is epic I can't wait to get one something similar to your setup one day but yeah stay safe thanks for such a awesome channel and amazing tunes top notch
that looks so fun blasting around the countryside ! you really have inspired me, i hope to get an ebike built and sorted for the summer. as always thanks for sharing the wisdom and dropping another banging tune! would love to see you make a liquid drum and bass tune to cruise the scenic route too! maybe your take on the vocals from Just One Second Elsa Esmeralda and london elektricity!!!
Cheers Godspeed!
Nice. Fast bike. Brakes seem really strong. Oh. Great sounding tune as well.
I bought the vapour frame and motorkit last year and built the bike up to a similar spec to Andy's bike.I take it to the local bike park(Cannock Chase) with the E-bike boys.They all ride 250w shimano powered bikes from various manufactures.They are a bit more nimble in the corners but I just leave them for dead on the hills once I get on the throtle its great fun.The motor on the vapour is a little thirsty so I just carry a spare battery 😀😎 i'm usually so far ahead I can swap it out before they can catch up.😂
So what are you getting for time/mileage doing real single track riding?
Jeff P
I have the smaller 14 amp hour battery which at full power will last about half an hour or 10 miles.So I carry two batteries{one in a pack pack).One to get me to the trails then one to blast around the trails without having battery anxiety.
Seems to work ok but is a little pricey with the batteries at £500 each.
Always an enjoyable experience watching your videos!
Awesome just had first couple test rides out on my frankenstein had rear rack snap now trying to find suitable box to place battery on frame which will also get weight of back wheel and feel more like my old bike back cant wait to get out ive botched it for now love it feel the buzz again thanks andy
This channels epic electric heaven and tunes galore what more do you need Amazing content
I have such a bike frame, but I upgraded it a lot. I made the battery fixing area larger and the 52v 21AH battery was installed.
It made the cyclone with a security system that was difficult to easily dismantle, and made it with a horn and 12v lights
Amazing video again Andy a real treat to watch something that takes mind off coronavirus
Great place to be in lock down love it thanks.
-- Thanks for the ride, mate.
That's what she said
Nice bike, you can tell floats over the trails with ease. Nice riding mate...
building one of these for hunting, your channel is the best keep it up!
Nice! Both the ride and the tune!
Looks fun you must know that route! I would be too busy expecting a hole to drop my front wheel into and ping me over the handlebars. I will stick to roads ! nice tunes for this run btw
Haha! Yeah it can be a bit dicey, I do that route daily but there’s still bits that catch me out. Gotta be careful, the suspension really helps iron out even the biggest bumps. Glad you like the tunes, they should be on ITunes, Spotify and all the others before the week is out!
Nice bike 👌 . Good tunes as well 👍
WONDERFUL RIDE WITH YOUR AMAZING E-BIKE i hope i can build also same as yours!
Hi
Thanks for your videos keep go on mate. 🙏
Hi Andy, would like to see the website version of the vapour reviewed if possible.
After having a good curry the night before, Andy said 20:27 lol
That is one hell of a bike. Well throughout and idea for its use, especially in these times.
Look after yourself
What battery are you running? looking for a hardcase battery with 50a continuous BMS for my luna BBSHD
I will buy and listen to that last track forever when I finish my enduro bike.
Thanks man, appreciate it👍🏻
cool bike. please what is the head angle geometry on the bike and size of front and rear shock. Thanks
Always a pleasure to watch your vids
Thanks!
@@andykirby Morning Andy when you get a chance could you have a read of what i have sent to your email.
Thank you.
Andy C
that was nice music thanks andy
Hello Andy, you mentioned on your vlog that you stay in the biggest cassette sprocket.
Just a thought, I think there is an option off having a single speed set-up which would certainly reduce weight and simplify and gain alitte cockpit space.
Regards Iain
Hi Iain, I mostly stay in the biggest gear yeah but I do occasionally drop down, like when I was on the long stretch in that video I may knock it down a couple to increase speed. It’s nice to have them there, what you could do is separate the cogs and have say 3 and then swap the derailleur for a tensioner and just manually move the chain if you were doing flatter downhill trails for example, you’d save space and a point of failure (derailleur banging on the floor)
It is nice at the moment though knowing that if the battery runs out you can still just pedal 😯
Love that track.
Cool! It’ll be on all the streaming sites and iTunes this week, meanwhile you can preview here: distrokid.com/hyperfollow/andykirby/rise
Wow. Great list! I don't envy you in all that pollen, but the bike works well.
I'm with you on not using pedal assist - i never run the PAS systems either, just leave them off.
Hi Andy. I just checked out the bike on your website. Currently have a hard tail Kona scab. Looked at the frame with motor and battery. Hoping to use the parts from my kona. Will I need anything else other than a rear shock?? And how long is delivery normally? Thanks.
Superb!
When will you try out the new cyc x1 pro? Apparently it is good for 6000w and looks so much better than the bbshd.
Nice tunes
I have a same frame but my chain is really near tire. How can I fix that? Some distance on chain ring or chain guader?
I did a bbsd. With phaserunner & cycleanlyst. Having problems with everything. Anything on system would be great. Anything you can give up would be great.
Thing rips
Very nice
ANDY KIRBY I have a 2014 e3 dash 48v battery 9.1 amp hours or something like that. My motor just went over the winter and they don't sell them anymore. I wanna do the bfang 750 watt with my battery from the e3 dash. My question is how many miles of range would I topically get? Thanks man happy fathers day
Have you do wheelie on throttle? I try I fall down all the time I trying to do fully wheelie
when is the Vapour 2.0 coming with the front 29 and higher output mate?
its an awesome bike im thinking of upgradeing myn i have sort of same frame transtion patrol ...are you tubless?
they make oil from does yellow plants you see in video, good to keep mud off your bike if you go offroad like that. canoli oil it is. (also cheaper then protect and shine oil/spray) but protects it good to not get mud sticking on the bike, i just seen a video from a mtb guy.
Good day Andy, quick question. The Shimano hydraulic e bike brake kit for sale on your site is for the frameset available on your site only or does it also fit standard full suspension MTBs?
Banging vid love the music.
Thanks! The tracks in this video are being sent to Spotify and iTunes etc at the moment, you can preview the track Rise here: distrokid.com/hyperfollow/andykirby/rise
Have you got a link for the wheels/tyres mate?
Is that the 17 or 19inch frame you're riding there?
Hey Andy. whats the specs on your rear shocks? Size?
Nice one Andy,the need for speed and heavy breathing.....lol....no more ebike here its 138 euros fine .....lucky boy no drones to follow yet...😂😂🍷👍❤
Andy Im sold on the 52v the swagcycle should go like snot
I have a Gary Fisher Trek Wahoo 29er. 58cm frame. This a good kit?
I’ve ridden my 15kw hub setup and the power is crazy fun, but it’s not light and nimble, I actually enjoy my befang more now.
Yeah I feel the same!
And that song is amazing
Hey Andy, been meaning to ask you about this... Have you any experience with the Bafang geared rear hubs? Apparently they offer less resistance when pedaling without the motor. I think they only go up to 750W though? Just wonder how much rolling resistance those bigger hub motors (1500W) that you use have? Is it manageable to pedal when the battery is flat?! Cheers
I can see a lot of e-bike riders ending up in hospital with power
assist bikes when travelling at more than 25 MPH. THEN our lazy
legislators WILL ban E-BIKES or KEEP current ridiculous speed limits.
Politicians are too lazy to introduce sensible laws for e-bikes.
E-bikes need a speed limit of about 40 to 45 MPH so they are able to
keep in the flow of normal motorised traffic flow. ESPECIALLY ON
HILLS where an e-biker limited power to 15 MPH, is going to be
reduced to 5 MPH up hills IS going to be in a POTENTIONALLY DANGEROUS
situation given the impatient, inconsiderate average motorist.
Motorist are too stupid, too lazy or too fat to use e-bikes for local
journeys. Politicians and most car drivers are too stupid to realise
that the e-bikes WILL solve traffic congestion AND traffic pollution.
THEY HATE CYLISTS ! EVEN THOUGH RIDING A BIKE IS UNCLUTERING THE
ROADS AND PARKING SPACES.
Imagine our cities where 90% of us are commuting across town by e-bike or
e-biking to and from the train station. Trains can be easily adapted
as necessary. Pollution levels and the gorgeous whether would return
to the levels we all enjoyed during the Coronavirus lock down.
Pitifully Obvious - unless you are a dumb politician. E-BIKE REGULATIONS NEED TO BE UPDATED.
SCREEM, SHOUT and E-MAILS TO JOURNALIST - POLITICIANS AND MOTORIST. (
ie your mum and dad ) TOXINS from ever increasing motor vehicle use
are poisoning us and our children. All of us are wasting thousands
hours of valuable time in unproductive traffic congestion. The e-bike
- tandem e-bikes - e bike trailers for the kids and shopping is our
likely salvation !
E-bikes need regulations if they are to become the most popular form of
commuter vehicle. Unfortunately Registration plates insurance and
construction regulations for safety, similar to mop-heads will have
to be adapted. Hub motors are too unstable at speeds above 30 MPH -
Mid drive compulsory - Rim brakes wear out rapidly on faster e-bikes and are therefore dangerous
- disc brakes should be compulsory for e-bikes - Compulsory -e-bike battery
detachable to prevent theft and for recharging at work
or destination with employers require by law to facilitate. Lockable
anti-theft tracker system - compulsory.
Speed limited by law to 45 MPH but with enough power to maintain that
speed up most hills. Motorway lanes adapted and progressively widened to provide 45 MPH e-bike and
e-recumbent bikes/trikes lanes where riders are three or four abreast
from initially using only the emergency vehicle access lane. Truck
lane 55 mph and car lanes 70 MPH.
In Life the sensible are handicapped by the imbeciles. The most common
accidents on motor bikes occurs when folks pull out in front of an
approaching motor bike because the driver didn't see the motor bike
which of course is bigger than an e-bike. I would strongly suggest
fitting a LED head light which can be set higher in daylight
preferably with a yellow cover to help the drivers see you
approaching the junction. Bear in mind older drivers have poorer
eyesight and much slower reactions. It's not much help being in the
right if your dead. At night remove the coloured lens cover and lower
the beam. We all need to scream at our idiot leaders in all countries
to adjust legislation to make e-bikes more popular. The Laws in the
UK are ridiculous. Most reasonably fit riders can easily exceed the
15 MPH limit without power assist but the same rider travelling above
15 MPH on a e-bike fitted with power assist EVEN if the power assist
is not being engaged WILL BE BREAKING THE LAW. Failing to registrar
the bike as a motor vehicle - no registration plate - no insurance -
no motor vehicle lighting regulations - not wearing a full motor bike
helmet etc................... Please copy and paste everywhere !
@@pitifullyobvious3036 damn lot of nanny hand holding going here.
@@pitifullyobvious3036 it is not your business, what ever they want as long these e-bike riders can go along with their hobby.
can you review / do build with new rear bafang 1000W motor?
I have BBSHD with Paseruner and CA 3 display on 52v can you share settings file for phaserunner I'll have trouble to set smooth start... 🤔
whats the frame size, im tall and i really hate having bent knee at normal full pedal extention?
Hi Andy, what's the reference / dimensions of the 52V Shark battery you have here? I would like to buy a Vapour and fit a 52V battery but I have difficulties choosing the battery. Btw I don't get answers from cloudsto.
PS I see you went stealth mode, what happened to the CA3?
Andy, i do like your bikes, but... sometimes i wonder how these parts like the bafang centre drive could work with less high spec bikes... single speed, or even looking back in time to old bombproofs like the sturmey 2 speed kick shift hub... or such parts, on a bike with a front hub motor... just lower spec, cheaper but old school (i'm a fan of old bikes). Also, i'm a bit of an ideas man - You've got a sensorless motor.... why not try to modify it with hall sensors? I think I saw Tom Stanton put sensors in one of his RC airplane motors... just a thought
Iamthe john, What do hall effect sensors do for a motor? Is for motor position sensing or rpm sensing?
Like always nice video. But when explaining the difference about 72/52v it seems your words were not being understood like what does Larry mean? I guess you said you prefer 52v?
Does the frame just come as a regular frame so we can just run a hub motor instead?
The last idea I had was using solar charging as an additional charge option that a lot of hunting ebikes use. I'll include a couple of links for examples of the foldable panels.
Lensun Foldable Solar Panel Kit.
www.lensunsolar.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=356
Rambo Bikes Solar Charging Kit
www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/rambo-bike-solar-charger?a=2136428
Bakcou Solar Charging Kit
ebikegeneration.com/products/backcountry-ebikes-solar-panel-for-electric-hunting-bikes
I’ve seen some of your videos I cannot remember do you have one that will take over from peddling I suffer from severe asthma and cannot ride for very long something like twist and go
Awesome question hopefully he'll answer it
Because I noticed in his video he was peddling
Hopefully it's not only pedal-assist but an actual moped
Yes you can use a throttle but might need to order as an optional extra.
craigr306 10:36
Yeah it's got a thumb throttle, no need to pedal, best to pedal on take off so as not to stress the motor and battery then just use the throttle. Most people will pedal
With the throttle so as to give more range and helps with balance also it looks legal.
I have a bike and put a kit with a 1000W motor and a 48v and 17.5 Ah battery, and little for what I need.
I need a battery life of at least 15 hours of battery.
I'm going to buy a second battery, what do you suggest?
My dream bike
got a link to the seat?
Mint!! 👏
Diggin the tune too bud. Right on
Would be nice to see a new generation frame that can cope with a large triangle battery and compact full syspension but not as heavy as the box frames.
Yes agreed, the triangle boxes don’t quite fit on this frame, they might on the XL frame though...
Hi Andy, great video as always! I have the money for one of your Vapour bike but I'm unsure if it will make it through customs, I've roughly worked out how much it will be in import duties but I cant find a commodity code for it on HMRC, I can only find one for an ebike with a 250 Watt motor, I don't want to order the Vapour and it be stuck in customs in the UK, I really want to order the complete bike but if I need to order it in kit form would that solve the problem, I tried emailing Cloudsto but it pinged back at me! Cheers Mate! Regards Leigh Lendon
Question 😅 What is the top speed?
How much do sell them for i need one does about 35mph -40 coin there no were to buy one in st helens merseyside
I've cleared some jumps on my Vapour today also ;)
Have you thought about putting a back up camera on that? Hehe!
How fast are you going?
You should consider setting up a payment plan through paypal, amazon or any secure payment online service, it will definitely let more people pull the trigger on buying the fully assembled bike. Especially in the US.
Hi, you can do it via PayPal, just message us.
How many kg is it
Just built up the same bike but has the internal battery. It is about 30kg
You should do a comparison of this bike to the one you sell on the website just to see the difference
i wish this guy was in canada
Hey Andy, i Know this is an old Video. I was wondering about the controller you using, can you actually program the controller with a ratio to give you the ability to place a sensor on the crank drive gear and work out gear ratio 3.39:1 etc but finding out what the transmission ratio is. This might solve you problem with the sensorless mode issue. We used to do this kind of set up on High powered HRC heli (2-5KW) 12s 44v LIPO power.... on the ESC. we used to do a calibrate set up where you know how many field windings it had and you set the Phasing like that and then with the rotor blades off..... scream the motor up from idle to full throttle and it would then give a burst of high speed to tell you that the calibration was done.
coupled with Soft start on or off. May work, not sure. Just an idea.
I bought an ebike kit, with a 750 watt geared hub motor. It's labeled as a 500 watt motor, but the controller has a 750 watt off road mode that doesn't limit speed. I'm going to make a 36 volt, about 1 kilowatthour battery pack for it. I was given a cypress giant, aluminum bike to put it on.
Nice! 750W is a decent amount of power! They made do with 1 horsepower for hundreds of years😁
@@andykirby I've been thinking about breaking the guieness world record for the longest bike ride on a single charge, but I'd need some people to sponsor me, so I could build more battery packs for the bike, and find out how to make the bike even more efficient
Is this bike still for sel ? :) I’m verry surprised by what you did
andy do you have any spare 72v packs kicking about i not to far from you
Kirbs, I highly doubt you’ve never heard of Maxxis and they’re tyres? Been using them since I was a kid downhill riding on a mongoose bmx frame (fucking painful by the way, 0 suspension besides whatever give you leave in the tyres) have a look at some of the “fat daddy” style treads, I have one set that I’ve had for over 6 years with some serious riding on them with over 50% tread on the rear after using the old shoe foot brake trick for 3 years (brake pads used to be more expensive than shoes in my city) still kind of are. Long story short, max is makes some seriously strong, grippy and long lasting tyres, especially in the 3” width range ;)
I have had quite a few befang motors of 350w and all have same problem in that the spindle inside doing the turning, are made from poor metal and shatter after a while due to heat. So unless they can put better oil insde to protect unit. Somis the m620 any better or does it use same spindle?
That's not why they break, at least on the bbshd's not sure about 350 watt models.
I have a bbshd and i have worked out that the "spindle" breaks from knocking the motor on logs rocks etc. Me and my friend had same problem after he clipped a log. The more you bang the motor the more likely it is to fail.
If you avoid this the bbshd is a fantastic motor and never had a problem since. I also have the m620 which avoids knocks by being built into the frame it is also a larger stronger motor core. If you BB is low then lifting it 20mm or so may help avoid motor strikes.
stop censoring me
I have only ridden on flat roads, and no hitting anything, but still 4x befang motors have shattered main spindle, i took it to an engineer and he found the metal quality poor
@@martinlewis1015 Not sure if they use the same spindle as 350 watt model, probably not. I would say bbshd has a larger spindle. It's only happened to me once and it was definitely from hitting it. I do pretty hardcore mtb with it. Drops, jumps, steep hill climbs and it just keeps going. Never melted a nylon gear either. and the m620 is unstoppable.
Iv'e heard laboring the motor up hills and starting from stand still in incorrect gear can cause problems. But Maybe ditch the 350 watts for 1000 watt bbshd!
Can you do a budget build build guide for an off road 1000w for those who don't have thousands in the bank or having an electrical degree.
There's so many products and there's no info for what kits work for what bike frames and I don't wana drop a large chunk of money into a project that may or may not work
Would it be safe to go over 40 mph with this? Just need to stay with traffic flow safely aswell as go off-road some days…I know u said 50 is sketchy… I’m looking for a stable bike to go to work but needs to be able to atleast go 40 with no issues 😢
do you sell on Amazon japan?
I messaged you on insta about an e-bike, didnt know if you’d seen it or not andy?
Put some of the new fox 38’s on it!
Maybe they’ll send me some 😅
Are you still able to order from your online shop or are you closed due to coronavirus
Yep we are open and very busy.
Great build well done... wish I could do same to mine. how much to build me one lol....
So I have been debating for a while now buying one of the fully assembled vapours.. so my question is those bike come fully tuned and ready to go once u receive it???
No at the moment it’s part built only.
@@andykirby so just to clarify... assembling the bike itself is required but what about the electric side of it in ur vid u talk about tuning the motor, tuning the controller, tuning the display.. so the electronic aspect is mostly what I'm worried about
MackDaddyBolan the standard bike is preset, just plug and go😁, no tuning or anything it just works. what I’ve done here is modify basically everything for more power, i don’t sell this modified version yet, it’s not ready.
Are you allowed to ride round farmers fields? is it legal?
I'm Sub'd👍,
Loving your build's... you are also an accomplished musician👏
How much did it cost to complete that machine?
3400
I was under the impression that with a center drive bike that you have to continually peddling all the time? Nice video.
No you can have throttle although not strictly legal on the road.
andy kirby not worried about legal issues, so once you get it going with the pedal you can just use the throttle to propel it just like a rear hub motor?
Yep!
andy kirby OK
@@andykirby Shhh !!!
Andy you didnt tell how much the vapour weights ways with the battery on
Haven’t weighed it with this battery on, probably about 25kg but remember it has about 4 horsepower!
Andy wants to buy this frame. Tell me please, what size is it? 19 inches? This on video.
There’s a 17,19 and 21 inch frame.
@@andykirby this on youre video is 19 Andy?
What is the approx height range for 17 and 19 and 21 inch? Where is that info listed?
I want this bike 😁
Okay so we can actually get this is there any way to get it in one lump sum
Or do we have to get it in little bitty Parts every here and there and Mickey Mouse it together
Yes we can do a part built bike and ship it in multiple shipments
How much and how multiple if you were the packages the better as long as all the parts are there and don't require any special modifications to put them together
Also is the bike pedal assist or can it actually go on its own power
@@andykirby Do you ship to the EU?
How much ?
Only thing stopping me do this is not have torque sensing pedal assist throttle only will make it not usable on the trails I ride want more power but also control