great vid! Also tip for everyone.. another reason why you can't make your master loud might be because it is too dynamic. If there are some elements that are jumping out too much those will start to distort first as you start to raise the gain within a limiter, thus not allowing you to raise gain that much. Key: Limit and compress your elements in the individual channels/buses before you even think about mastering ;)
Also: the better the balance of your mix is the louder your mix will be, because all of your mix's elements will be closer together in dynamic range, making it look like this big thick chunk of audio file, after that you can even soft clip that waveform and you'll get masters that will be able to reach -5 ...not really saying you should, -5 is way too loud, i recommend yall just stay at -14.
Excited to try that multiband compressor trick. I really struggle with loudness even though I saturate and limit my individual 808s, snares, kicks, the drum bus altogether, and then for mastering use a TRS Clipper. I also recently learned about crest factor and how crucial it is in terms of your peaks being as close to the RMS as possible. Most of my songs tend to sit in the -10 and -12 LUFS range but if I could get all of them to sit in just the -9 range I would be more than satisfied. It's kinda tricky as well because some of my songs work with just 2-track instrumentals instead of the full stems so I have to work around that as well.
its funny you say that because all his videos are bad and almost completely useless he talks and repeats himself 90% of the time. you probably think seeing his face 90% of the video is very helpful
thanks this literally solved my all time issue with my music. Always wondered why I'm not struggling with this loudness thing. your tutorial on loudness is the only one that really got me through with the issue, much appreciated!
That’s so true what you said. The low end will eat up all your headroom. You’re going to go down in the annals of history as one of the best mixing instructor. One day we’ll do a song together. #LegendaryStatus
Great video devvon, very helpful! One question, I’ve been doing some research on CTZ strategy. And it seems they use that on most bus/ audio tracks in the mixing stage. So my question is, do you only use the soft clipper and limiter in the mastering stages only? Also if there is a video of you walking through mixing a song yourself, I would love to watch it. Thank you for your time.
Man that fabfilter tipped just helped me a lot I noticed after doing that it’s like the vocals pop out a lil more and also the bass Is just flowing on it’s on which allowed it to be louder without distorting thanks 💪🏿😎
I made music for almost 3 years and loudness was always the problem. I watched lots lots of mastering tutorial but none of them solve my problem. I almost gave up on this. But recent few months I finally began to figure it out. Your video just make me more sure about my answer is correct. Yes, the problem is the mix, and it's the low end. More correctly to say is the loudest element in the mix. It is not controlled well, so when I limit my song, the loudnest thing will distort very soon, and that's it! It will be the ceiling of my song's loudness, cause I cannot continue to limit my song for more loudness, it will sound terribly distorted. I think what cause this is because low end frequency is not as prominant as other frequency in the mix? So what I tend to do is turn it up turn it up, but I don't realize it's already too much ... To me this video is very on point. I can see my songs will be as loud as commercial record in the future. I didn't see any one talk about this before on TH-cam. You are legend bro.
Bruhhh... I was literally in the exact same situation. I could never push my limiter past a couple LUFS beyond where my favorite artists had theirs, without horrible distortion. Dude is just a goat man. You can seriously tell the difference when someone is really trying to help you better yourself versus those who are just spilling ideas in a short video and making it seem like there's nothing else to what they're showing you smh. Cheers to making great sounding music with Devvon's help man!
Been here since lockdown last year. Let me tell you something if you want to improve your music and vocals, I recommend this guy right here. We can't thank you enough Devvon. 🙏
ts be a lovely vidoe. av been doing this technique in different ways for years and yet, watching you felt like I just heard about it for the first time. Gracias muchos
Thanks a lot, those tips helped me a ton and made my songs finally reach that professional level!! And your songs sounds like a banger dude, keep it up
Yh it will be turned down cause the streaming services want all the songs to have the same LUFS to avoid a sudden change in loudness when the next song comes in, but its good to have your song at -12/-9lufs cause you will have more dynamics.
😀Thank you for a very well presented explanation on working on understanding how to achive a load controed audio mix in mastering a song regardless of the music style which can be applied to and type of mastering production.
This is dope u deserve the best ever. But nxt make a tutorial on how to correct pitch in protools coz sometimes autotune does'nt sound on maybe an artist did it off so how to correct it in protools and which plugin is good at pitch correction ?
It should be a good idea to watch Baphomatrix séries about loudness. He gets a great a clean and very good loudness using some saturation and tons of hard clipping. I am not saying that this vídeo is wrong, but there's another way to reach -6 or -7 LUFS...
When I clip and limit I always end up going back and fixing the levels or transient or compression of my snare. Idk why Makes me think mixing into a limiter is better
Very valuable information! I got a question, where do you get reference tracks? TH-cam? I have Spotify and Apple Music but I don’t know how to download high quality references besides TH-cam
So just to straighten something out, I noticed that in one of your mastering videos you applied soft clipping and limiting towards the latter half of your master. I was just wondering if we should be putting soft clipping on the end step of our mixes along with the limiter or on the mastering. Because as far as your mixing tutorials go, you only applied a multiband c4, nls buss nevo and a j34 tape at the end of your mixes. So would this video only apply to mixes that are too quiet? Videos I'm referencing: th-cam.com/video/3GdjUCMFyxk/w-d-xo.html and th-cam.com/video/Z0GoZ_Wn1f4/w-d-xo.html thanks and keep up the great content!
Usually, you make a mix louder at the end so all the clipping and limiting is done then because you’ll be getting essentially a better picture of the sound when it’s not limited. You can do the other stuff on your master if you require it. (REMEMBER EVERY MIX/MASTER IS DIFFERENT SO THERE IS NO NEED TO COPY AND PASTE A SIGNAL CHAIN, JUST MAKE SURE YOU HAVE REASON TO DO WHATEVER YOU’RE DOING)
I noticed you didn’t have to touch the gain or clip sliders on the left-is your signal at the perfect level going in? I always end up adjusting the clip ceiling because I’m way down around -16 or so. Does it make any real difference doing it this way vs adjusting the clip ceiling to meet the lower gain?
great vid! Also tip for everyone.. another reason why you can't make your master loud might be because it is too dynamic. If there are some elements that are jumping out too much those will start to distort first as you start to raise the gain within a limiter, thus not allowing you to raise gain that much. Key: Limit and compress your elements in the individual channels/buses before you even think about mastering ;)
Also: the better the balance of your mix is the louder your mix will be, because all of your mix's elements will be closer together in dynamic range, making it look like this big thick chunk of audio file, after that you can even soft clip that waveform and you'll get masters that will be able to reach -5 ...not really saying you should, -5 is way too loud, i recommend yall just stay at -14.
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CTZ
I think saturation is also huge. This is why analog studios make the big money. Their mixes can sound louder at -2db than your at home mix.
Clipping me softly with his song, telling my whole life with his reverb.
Amazing video!! Super thorough!
I see you bro 👊🏾
Excited to try that multiband compressor trick. I really struggle with loudness even though I saturate and limit my individual 808s, snares, kicks, the drum bus altogether, and then for mastering use a TRS Clipper. I also recently learned about crest factor and how crucial it is in terms of your peaks being as close to the RMS as possible. Most of my songs tend to sit in the -10 and -12 LUFS range but if I could get all of them to sit in just the -9 range I would be more than satisfied. It's kinda tricky as well because some of my songs work with just 2-track instrumentals instead of the full stems so I have to work around that as well.
He has a video on 2 track recording
Never a bad video out of you, Devvon!
its funny you say that because all his videos are bad and almost completely useless he talks and repeats himself 90% of the time. you probably think seeing his face 90% of the video is very helpful
@@David-hs1bu I didn’t come here to argue 🤷🏽♂️ I don’t care.
@@David-hs1bu 🤡
@@David-hs1bu let me see your video clown
Thank you for the class!
thanks this literally solved my all time issue with my music. Always wondered why I'm not struggling with this loudness thing. your tutorial on loudness is the only one that really got me through with the issue, much appreciated!
It worked! I put the clipping limited in front of my brickwall limiter and easily hot -7 LUFS without distortion. You da man!
All excellent tips for getting well balanced louder mix! You hit this one out of the park ☄️
“The soft clipitting” 😂 never heard it like that before
That’s so true what you said. The low end will eat up all your headroom. You’re going to go down in the annals of history as one of the best mixing instructor. One day we’ll do a song together. #LegendaryStatus
I looked at the comments to check the validity and after watching I can confirm this video is GOLD!!!!!! SUBBED
"Do not get married to me bumping it up this high"😂😂😂
Would love to see a updated version of how u master
💯💯
Great video devvon, very helpful! One question,
I’ve been doing some research on CTZ strategy. And it seems they use that on most bus/ audio tracks in the mixing stage.
So my question is, do you only use the soft clipper and limiter in the mastering stages only?
Also if there is a video of you walking through mixing a song yourself, I would love to watch it.
Thank you for your time.
Great advice bro. And the timing was perfect. I'm about to start mastering 3 songs and this is something I've definitely been noticing
These tips are so valueable it's insane.
Man that fabfilter tipped just helped me a lot I noticed after doing that it’s like the vocals pop out a lil more and also the bass Is just flowing on it’s on which allowed it to be louder without distorting thanks 💪🏿😎
I made music for almost 3 years and loudness was always the problem. I watched lots lots of mastering tutorial but none of them solve my problem. I almost gave up on this. But recent few months I finally began to figure it out. Your video just make me more sure about my answer is correct.
Yes, the problem is the mix, and it's the low end. More correctly to say is the loudest element in the mix. It is not controlled well, so when I limit my song, the loudnest thing will distort very soon, and that's it! It will be the ceiling of my song's loudness, cause I cannot continue to limit my song for more loudness, it will sound terribly distorted.
I think what cause this is because low end frequency is not as prominant as other frequency in the mix? So what I tend to do is turn it up turn it up, but I don't realize it's already too much ...
To me this video is very on point. I can see my songs will be as loud as commercial record in the future. I didn't see any one talk about this before on TH-cam. You are legend bro.
Bruhhh... I was literally in the exact same situation. I could never push my limiter past a couple LUFS beyond where my favorite artists had theirs, without horrible distortion. Dude is just a goat man. You can seriously tell the difference when someone is really trying to help you better yourself versus those who are just spilling ideas in a short video and making it seem like there's nothing else to what they're showing you smh. Cheers to making great sounding music with Devvon's help man!
My Beats and Songs too :/ idk
Been here since lockdown last year. Let me tell you something if you want to improve your music and vocals, I recommend this guy right here. We can't thank you enough Devvon. 🙏
this guy is the GOAT. Now all you need to do is start online courses because I'm in need!!
Very helpful Devvon. Confirmed a lot re: why our last mix was loud and distortion free.Thanks for sharing your wisdom
Omggg was needing that final step of controlling low end before soft clipping! That’s made so much difference, thank you again D!🔥❤️🔥❤️
Great tips! Really getting your low end in order in the mix then adding all the clipping to get it loud latter on is the way to go. Thanks Devon!
ALWAYS GET THE BEST UNDERSTANDING OF WHEN TO USE THESE TECHNIQUES IN CERTAIN SCENARIOS! THANKS YOU BRO!
I just love the way you helping people like me. Love you so much bro 😘
Very helpful. Low-end is good but not always the best at the end. I'm still learning multi band compression. It's fun
The track slaps
i'm always coming back to your videos but this one is actually the real secret sauce. Keep doing what you doing GOAT
What a guy man, such an informative, excellent video bro, honestly you are an inspiration and a great teacher bro👏🏾 thankyou from me and everyone
That song sounded real noice fella
bro you have been an amazing resource just in the past week.
Great stuff brother! 🙏🫶
Gold. Thanks for this
Yes, you are correct, great advice Devvon.
ts be a lovely vidoe. av been doing this technique in different ways for years and yet, watching you felt like I just heard about it for the first time. Gracias muchos
Thanks a lot, those tips helped me a ton and made my songs finally reach that professional level!! And your songs sounds like a banger dude, keep it up
great video bro! been struggling with this problem for years
Broo, great video. Thank you so much.
I was wondering why I could get more level when I muted my kick and bass. Wonderful video
Another great video!. I had been putting a soft clipper after my limiter. I will definitely reverse those. Thank you!
U really the goat 🐐 I learned all my mixing tips from you bro also bought your studio rack bundle it’s the best investment I made
This is GOLD !! Devvon you're a Legend my bro
Lavry Gold?
@@brentrichardaudio I'm more of a Prism Sound man myself tbh
Great vid I'm excited to try it out. I'm curious though, won't it just be turned down to -14 LUFS with the streamings services normalizations?
Yh it will be turned down cause the streaming services want all the songs to have the same LUFS to avoid a sudden change in loudness when the next song comes in, but its good to have your song at -12/-9lufs cause you will have more dynamics.
@@dura3775 I don't get it, wouldn't mastering louder decrease dynamics?
Thanks for all you do in music bro!
This your best video yet man🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
😀Thank you for a very well presented explanation on working on understanding how to achive a load controed audio mix in mastering a song regardless of the music style which can be applied to and type of mastering production.
thankyou so much for sharing this info
Man you’re the REAL GOAT thank you fam frfr 🙏🏽🙏🏽
This is dope u deserve the best ever. But nxt make a tutorial on how to correct pitch in protools coz sometimes autotune does'nt sound on maybe an artist did it off so how to correct it in protools and which plugin is good at pitch correction ?
I would highly recommend Melodyne, and Waves Tune Real-Time is also a good one. All the best.
Gold! So helpful, thank you so much for this video!
U ever use the UA LA 2A leveler compressor?
When you said "du du du du du du" I felt that 🤣
Commenting before you even start. I know you gonna bring the 🔥🔥 on this‼️‼️
Great teaching session on this one.
Beautifully put
God bless you. Thank you
Bro your Information Are Really super Dope, Thanks u very much for sharing that
Thanks man! That was great! Blessings💯
This's a confirmation
Thank you man ❤️❤️
It should be a good idea to watch Baphomatrix séries about loudness.
He gets a great a clean and very good loudness using some saturation and tons of hard clipping.
I am not saying that this vídeo is wrong, but there's another way to reach -6 or -7 LUFS...
DAMN THE LAST PART OF THIS TUTORIAL’S MY PROBLEM HAHA ‼️ YOU GOT ME
When I clip and limit I always end up going back and fixing the levels or transient or compression of my snare.
Idk why
Makes me think mixing into a limiter is better
Very valuable information! I got a question, where do you get reference tracks? TH-cam? I have Spotify and Apple Music but I don’t know how to download high quality references besides TH-cam
So just to straighten something out, I noticed that in one of your mastering videos you applied soft clipping and limiting towards the latter half of your master. I was just wondering if we should be putting soft clipping on the end step of our mixes along with the limiter or on the mastering. Because as far as your mixing tutorials go, you only applied a multiband c4, nls buss nevo and a j34 tape at the end of your mixes. So would this video only apply to mixes that are too quiet? Videos I'm referencing: th-cam.com/video/3GdjUCMFyxk/w-d-xo.html and th-cam.com/video/Z0GoZ_Wn1f4/w-d-xo.html thanks and keep up the great content!
Usually, you make a mix louder at the end so all the clipping and limiting is done then because you’ll be getting essentially a better picture of the sound when it’s not limited.
You can do the other stuff on your master if you require it. (REMEMBER EVERY MIX/MASTER IS DIFFERENT SO THERE IS NO NEED TO COPY AND PASTE A SIGNAL CHAIN, JUST MAKE SURE YOU HAVE REASON TO DO WHATEVER YOU’RE DOING)
legend bro never misses
Another great one bro!! Thank you!!
i love you dude. bless you man
Yo My Man GOD BLESS YOU So much Keep the Good work up 👍💪🏿💯
Excellence as usually brother !!! Thanks
thank you good sir
As usual.....of the top....merci beaucoup 💯🎼🎵🎷
needed this! 🐐
NEVER FAILS .. BIG UPS
Thanks bro I needed vid like this u the best
This 'Rulers of the night' track is a goddamn banger!
How loud do you mix your songs? I keep seeing advice to mix up to -6 or -3db to leave headroom. Is this the optimal way to mix?
Great advice Homie is the L3 limiter from wave good?
Thx Dev!!
“Control ur low end!”
Thanks for that! 🙏🏽
You are a genius thanks for this
139K subs, 241 people in raw form, and 2 people whose gooses are COOKED.
great tips bro as usual, thnx
This is straight gold🌟🌟🌟🥇🥇🥇
As we say in Kenya 'Zengio' Thank you!
Thank you brother
looks divine👍
Bravo!
This Is AWESOME!
Thanks for the knowledge :)
Needed this
Just as I submitted my song.. lol Fye' though! 💣☝🏾 #blessings #peace #love
Solid Gold!
Yes
Thnx
what are good soft clipper plugins? cheaper options?
Do you sell mastering templates too ??? If not Can you put together a pack of mastering Templates, put a price on it so we can buy ?
What genre of music is that song specified as? Its fire asf
can I ask how did u learn or discover that trick about MB for low end?
I noticed you didn’t have to touch the gain or clip sliders on the left-is your signal at the perfect level going in?
I always end up adjusting the clip ceiling because I’m way down around -16 or so. Does it make any real difference doing it this way vs adjusting the clip ceiling to meet the lower gain?