The Olmec Civilization
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Hello everyone! This episode is one of the of the many upcoming episodes that will feature the Ancient Americas by none other than The History of the World Podcast! Chris guides us into a different world as we explore the Olmec civilization, from artifacts and archaeological findings to colossal heads, a brutal Meso American Ballgame to the myth or cult of the Werejaguar! To support The History of the World Podcast check out the links in the video description above!
Appreciate the video, you're very knowledgeable. Thank-you
The epic mysteries of Olmec DNA and culture from Central African to South America civilisation by Anunnaki and the Son of Anu the God’s.
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Hey everyone! Quick admission here! Without realizing it I used a map that does not depict the right place in this video. Sadly human error interfered an it is in no way the fault of the podcast but the fault lies with me and the channel. I have to comb through hundreds of pics per episode and sadly every so often a mistake gets by me. Best wishes everyone!
Excellent timing! Just started learning about the Olmecs and other indigenous American cultures very recently.
Emcee Squared then I recommend you do some research on supe caral... So you can truly understand the origin of our indigenous culture. Tahuantinsuyo and Cemanahac
Enjoy the longer videos. Especially a podcast, I can crack on with other things with whilst it's on in the background
The San Lorenzo that you’re showing in Paraguay ISN’T part of the OLMEC Civilization
I noticed that too and immediately had a brain fart. I was wondering why the olmec culture was in south america
Before Spanish maybe
Yeah, I thought I was going crazy for a minute.
I really appreciate how you speak slowly and distinctly as you cover this fascinating material. Also, your visual aids are excellent. Looking forward to more!
Fabulous review of this ancient culture and over time this will get the viewings it deserves. subscribed.
Yal definitely need to do more research on the America’s before Europeans
Thank you. You’re getting better 🙏🏽♥️🇲🇽
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Absolutely great ☺️ totally love it 👍 and thank so much very much 🙏
*screams in Proto-Mixe-Zoquean*
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Very useful, thank you
This was awesome, thanks!
Thank you , great video solid information
I am a little confused. There are two San Lorenzos on the maps displayed. One in Central America, the other in South America. I can understand two separate places being named San Lorenzo by the Spaniards who invaded them but so far in the narration I have heard no discussion about the connection between these two San Lorenzos. Has the author of this vid simply included a map of the South American San Lorenzo by mistake?
He's talking about San Lorenzo in Mexico while displaying the map of San Lorenzo, Paraguay. Awfully dumb thing to do.
Would have loved more pictures during presentation ie of red palace etc etc
"History of the world." I always think in a Mel Brooks voice.
Lol, you got to be a little older to get.
This was really good
This is a very good lecture about the mysterious Olmec civilization! We know very little about them because of the lack of archaeological excavations in significant survey areas. Besides, we don't know the provenience of many meaningful artifacts, which precludes the possibility of founded interpretations. So it is indeed difficult, at the moment, to have a good idea about their politics and religion, this is why I agree when you cast a certain doubt about the"were-jaguar" interpretation of certain objects. It is true that we have jades that represent the transformation of a human into some kind of feline, but that cannot possibly resolve so many statues' interpretations. The mask you have chosen at 24:30 is the right example of this kind of dichotomy: honestly, I cannot see any jaguar character in it, even though its carver was obviously capable of expressing whatever he wanted, but I don't see fangs, no cat eyes, no jaguar spots, no feline nose. What I see is a pointed gum without teeth, an inflated upper lip revolted to the nose, flamed eyebrows, and no feline characters at all. This mask represents certainly something supernatural and the artist has certainly taken inspiration from nature to express his message but we don't know what, yet. For me, the identity of the creature portrayed here remains an enigma, and the "were-jaguar theory" remains abused.
Interested in watching. I just toured Peru and it appears the Megalith stonework was pre Inca but most tour guides just claim it’s all Inca work. One guide was more open minded and shared more than one theory.
I've great news for all the Europeans who are interested in the Olmec civilization: in Paris, from 9 October till 25 July, at the Musee du Quai Branly Jaques Chirac they'll show: Les Olmeques et les cultures du Golfe du Mexique.
200 + artifacts, many of them never exposed abroad before. I will be there for sure...
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@@CheNava1 Yes. You're right theefs! And also add history falsifiers!
Thank you!
Clovis isn't nearly the earliest culture discovered in America.
No it's not. It is certainly one of them though.
Dude you got the wrong San Lorenzo on your picture. You got a Argentinian San Lorenzo
I don’t know about MesoAmerican agriculture, but I have heard many times, “Olmec Donald had a farm.”
Bruv 😅
25:28 - it's amazing what could be done before the days of Health and Safety in the Workplace
I listen to your podcast just connected 2 and 2
Chris Hassler could be reading Ikea directions and i'd listen
I wonder if that would make a popular alternative podcast series.
@@historyoftheworldpodcast5234 the History of Ikea Podcast, haha!
@@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 I have a Masters degree from Villanova University and assembling Ikea products brings me to tears
Amazing
First known meso-am pyramid had stairs at each corner! Different ... Hmmmm ...
Also first known spot helmets or ballgame with helmets!
LIDAR reveals even more to discover! :)
Wonderful 😎
In reference to the early working of copper, but no smelting, in the pre-columbian Americas: Almost all of the world's native copper is found in Upper-Michigan, Isle Royal, and Bolivia. The supply of native copper was plentiful, so why go to the great labors of smelting for a less pure product? Also, anyone who knows how to build and operate ceramic Kilns has the necessary know-how to do smelting, so it wasn't like they couldn't do it.
Very interesting discussion point.
@Gary Allen Area that today is the US east of the Mississippi valley is not at all arid. Native Americans in the arid south-west and in the east of what is now the US produced quantities of ceramics. It is also noteworthy that in the late pre-colombian period there was some limited smelting of copper in Central America, which is furthest from the Upper Michigan and Bolivian native-copper deposits.
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Yea cuz they black Africans
@@ambitiouskweenkosmetics8374 No... not at all. 😊
@@chicanochronicles8124 lmfaoooo okkk whatever you sayyy lmfaooo so the statues just look African lmfaooo!!! All blacks know the truth though! Why Yoo thinks they Enslaved us and still killing us?? We are the first and the last! The ALPHA AND THE OMEGA!!! And when we all rise and realize who we are the worlds in trouble!!!!!! Remember this!!! Also go watch hidden colors 1-6!! We have history hun y’all just keep trying to ERASE it 😩! SMH not an argument cuz we know the truth 🤪🤗
@@ambitiouskweenkosmetics8374 Lol... No one cares what you think. The Olmec have never been black.
@@ambitiouskweenkosmetics8374 Have you ever seen what the native peoples look like? They are the ancestors of this culture. Guatamalans for example have broad noses and almond shaped eyes. Early African culture can be found in Africa, look there... not Meso America.
No. The Olmecs nor other Mesoamericsns copied the Egyptians by building pyramid like structures. When you want to build a big structure of stone, without the benefit of arches or modern concrete, you will likely or even nessecarlly end up with a building with a big base and a small top. Which will look like a pyramid wherever you build it!
Popperite exactly. I keep having to tell this to people
@Ta SETI No. They weren’t. That hypothesis causes more problems than it would solve. Convoluted solutions like that can safely be dismissed.
@@Popperite But there were Egyptian artifacts found in a cave in the Grand Canyon.
@@Popperite why would that hypothesis cause more problems? Isn't it about the truth wherever that may lead?
@@chillycharles910 Because it does not explain anything worth asking while at the same time causing difficult other questions. Those are not good hypotheses.
Graham Hancock by day Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day!!!
Why show a map of San Lorenzo in Paraguay, when the article is about the Olmec culture in San Lorenzo in Mexico?
The Basalt heads didn't need to be transported if they were "bombs" from ancient volcanoes. That's why they are flat on one side. They were carved by Chavin artisans then stood up.
Why not the olmex?
My dad told me he went to school with Olmecs in the late 60’s in Guatemala, Jalapa. they had helmets and they all had crossed eyes he says.
Those people were most likely Mayan dependents. If I’m not wrong olmecs is a group of people with different tribes and language. Guatemala is more of the Mayan people who are the same just groups of people with similarities. Crossed eye were seen as beautiful thing in some tribes. They would tie a small ball or raddle to keep the infant eyes crossed. It’s crazy 😂
Waaaayyy better the Christian studies vids that get up loaded on here lol
You do realize the San Lorenzo of the Olmecs isn't on the Argentine-Paraguay border, right?
@@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449
Yep
Yes it looks like the wrong San Lorenzo is being shown from around 11:30
@@DEMcouver
That's the one.
I guess it leaves the mind a little wandering room for fantasy until reality comes back at ya in the next slide! lol
I should have read the comments before making my own. The South American San Lorenzo would seem to be a red herring. Which is a pity because the hypothesis that ancient civilisations communicated over large distances, globally, is fascinating in light of the timing of comparable advances in these various civilisations around the globe. Although the pyramids of Egypt were built thousands of years before the Central American pyramids, so this is not a good candidate to demonstrate communication. The most interesting coincidence between widely separated civilisations is the development of stone working techniques. How, similar stonework can be found on opposite sides of the globe thousands of years ago, needs to be explained.
Maybe they left those big stone heads just to confuse us and freak us out.
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-Mr. Burns
Love being a olmec mayan Aztec 🌞 child in america
Suggestion: Fix the map beginning around 12:58. Suddenly you have the Olmec San Lorenzo in South America.
lol That was so random!
I want to know which part of England this narrator is from. It's this a London accent or am I way off?
I'm relatively new to the Study of Antiquity and the Middle Ages Channel. I appreciated the non-Euro-centric material presented in other videos and the recognition that the racism of those who have long dominated academic fields has obscured documentable evidence (c.f., the video on the Aryans). I was therefore appalled at this video's repeated reference to "Columbus' discovery of the New world" especially when the video purports to unpack the complex culture of the Olmecs. Now I am questioning the other assertions of fact in this video, if that particular perspective has gone unexamined!
Don’t mind me just putting where I leave off 10:00
I get so "upset" by people saying Christopher Columbus "discovered" America. It was never lost, but CC WAS. There were many large civilizations on both North and South of this country before he accidentally "@found" America.
These civilizations are now being discovered by both archeologists AND LIDAR.
Much more complicated then taught to the general public in schools today.
They always telling lies they don't want the truth to be known
Why is it ruled out that the Egyptian people didn’t come over through the cold waters? Surly we know they had boats/ships..
Their ships and boats were riverine craft. They could sail out into the Mediterranean, but not an ocean.
More importantly, why wouldn’t they transport anything with them? Why not leave behind any evidence what so ever? Where’s the disease they carried? Where do we find their genes in ancient burials? Why do the Olmec heads not resemble ancient Egyptians? Why do we see complex societies and large mounds appearing in the Americas before Egypt even had any pyramids? Why don’t we see a break in the archaeological record, showing an intrusion from alien cultures until the arrival of the Spanish?
This is actually only a few questions that would need to be answered to even consider Egypt as an option.
They did they found Egyptian writings and artifacts in the grand canyon.
that was a hoax@@brandycoke713
Well, Pyramids were built in Caral, Peru', since 3000 B.C. and if there was indeed a direct contact between the Olmecs and the "Old World" we cannot undermine the Chinese navigation skills. It is not well known that the Chines civilization built its millennial expertise in the pyramid- building, which stopped with the Qin Shi Huang mausoleum, but nobody really knows when it started, because there are no researches about this topic yet ( at least that I m aware of...)
Marcos Sealey, nice to see you here on this channel! Still pushing your fairy tales I see. Still the same claims without any scientific evidence or sources being cited, very cute. Does the Easter bunny occupy a room in your house as well?
Marcos Sealey hey Marcos! I see you still subscribe to and peddle the same old dribble. Why not provide us with some sources of this wealth of information?
Marcos Sealey I couldn’t tell you the age of every human on the earth, sorry that’s not with in the realm of possibility.
Marcos Sealey the round part.
@@macarde10 Hey Boys, you are HILARIOUS for sure! But why don't you entertain us with a real debate entered on your most significant theories, instead of splashing the net with sarcasm and colorful insults? I let you remember that we are hier trying to study an ancient history which was never been written but it was carved in many perplexing objects that could prove some facts ( or others...). Hallo! Lets be constructive...
How would you find evidence for a raft?
Ugloke archeology.
The Study of Antiquity and the Middle Ages would it not be a problem, to find a raft thuogh archeology?
Ugloke nope. We do it all the time. That’s why it’s called archaeology.
The Study of Antiquity and the Middle Ages How far back have rafts been found?
Temple Clomplex?
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No, they werent.
Columbus and his crews were found adrift and was found to be suffering with scurvy and had to be nursed back to health.
Pourriez- vous nous offrir un vidéo sur la civilidation des PASTÈQUES ,les rivaux des Olmèques et Aztèques qui ont été massacrés jusqu 'au dernier et leurs céramiques cassées et concassées ?
Is Elon Musk the contemporary for those who crossed the Beringia Strait?
An explorer and his family use transpiration/advanced technology to explore new regions and bring their culture into new geographical locations for it to adapt and change based on the needs of the current locations climate? (LOl)
Columbus was Portuguese and a student of Prince Henry the Navigator.
It was the kru people of modern day liberia & Sierra leone who taught the #portuguese how to navigate the ocean currents of the atlantic ocean. That’s where you get the word “crew” from y’all gotta stop lying 🤥
Wood CAN stand the test of time... when it is petrified.
As far as I know, and I've looked into this quite a bit, everything/anything solid can be petrified... not just wood. Diamonds and gold would be examples of solids that can not be petrified.
The process is due to a lot of water, mud, and time. When the area around an object (that was petrified) wears away, like the mud surrounding a wooden structure (that was petrified)... it begins to reveal itself to the world as a stone structure that was once wood. Still looks like wood. A metamorphosis though has occurred.
Whenever something is petrified, it gains more weight, and becomes much harder than it was before it was petrified.
Wood for example is about 25-85 lbs per cubic ft...
... Petrified wood can weigh 160 - 200+ lbs per cubic ft.
Now apply that logic to what we have now with these "megalithic" sites.
América isn't an ancient land, don't forget that name was given by the european invaders just a few centuries ago, before that "we" the native people and real owners of the land named ANAWAK-TAWANTINSUYU.
Too much ignorance from outsiders.
@Sebastian Benitez really
How does one explain finding cocaine I n the Egyptian mummies bodies ?
Contamination
@@macarde10BINGO!!!!
Thank you for clearly stating there is no evidence for pre-Columbian contact between the old world and the new. There are a lot of psuedo documentaries out there making such unfounded claims which annoys me to no end and it's refreshing to find an objective alternative.
I am prepared to accept Viking voyages to North America around a thousand years ago, but I haven't seen much in the way of firm evidence for anything previous to that.
@@historyoftheworldpodcast5234 Time for an eyesight checkup. The evidence of pre-Columbian contacts between Americas and the rest of the world is sufficient and keeps piling up - How did the DNA from Australia and Papua New Guinea made its way to S. America as well as the DNA from Europe and Middle East extracted from remains of Paracas culture people in Peru? Who were those bearded people with Caucasian features so widely depicted in the early Olmec art? Who had mined about 1 million tons of virgin copper on Lake Superior in 2500 to 1500 BCE.? These are just a few to name. Also,do you really believe Viking sailors were superior to, say, Phoenician, Punic or Minoan seafarers?
Well at this stage, it is only sufficient in your opinion and I think that it is important to stress that. I would only accept DNA analysis if the scientific community accepted the results. The DNA suggestion is not widely accepted by experts at this stage, so the results must be made accessible to the scientic community for further scrutiny. I have heard must cultures of the world associated with Olmec art and craft, and I believe that once again, this is one interpretation. Who had mined copper on Lake Superior? Why would it need to be anyone other than indigenous Americans? The argument about Viking sailors being superior to Punic and Minoan seafarers is not a valid one in my opinion for the following reasons. The Punics (Phoenicians) were far and away superior to the Minoans if bare evidence is anything to go by. The Vikings were over a thousand years after the Punics. Both races demonstrated an outstanding ability to travel by sea, covering similar distances. America is not the measuring stick to compare the Vikings to the Punics, because the Vikings were based a lot closer to places such as Newfoundland where strong evidence of Norse settlement has been excavated.
@@jeffborne1 the Viking boats were greater for that particular task.
jeffborne1 I would love to see your sources, why not cite where you found all this information?
As for the austromelanesian mtdna admixture, it’s believed to have been through people in Asia who had mingles with migrating groups into the America’s, providing an admixture of such. All that shows is a group of people who shared a common ancestor with the people now called the austromelanesian, intermingled with populations who would eventually settle in the America’s. That admixture isn’t only in South America.
Don’t confuse Polynesian with austromelanesian. Polynesian admixture is much more recent and only appears in South America. We also find ancient mtdna from Colombian native Americans, in the eastern Polynesian islands.
As for the bearded people? Where? provide us this wealth of information. Share my good man!! Might as well provide some sources for the many other examples that you didn’t provide. Help us teach this by showing us where we can find this information!
Hue hue tlapalan is America, the origins of all civilization.
Olmecs in Paraguay? Uh... lol, I guess.
The Olmecs look like the people of Hawii, I believe their called Polynesians.
That statement means nothing if the statues also resemble the people who still live in the area where the Olmec once ruled.
Anyone can say that about a lot of ethnic groups and still doesn’t have the same dna
LMAO!!!
And what are POLYNESIANS?
What was their religion
olmecsandchavin101.weebly.com/religion.html If it helps!
Nature is their religion
maybe they had no religion??
Based Uruguay Moment
Is this civilization has a specifically developed medicine?
The " Olmecs" were The Chavin
'Ullo, guv'ner.
When talking about San Lorenzo, which is in mesoamerica, you are showing a map of another San Lorenzo on the Paraguay and Argentina border on the continent of South America. This is not the correct map for what you are lecturing!
There never were any "Aztec", they were Chichimec Mexica.
No, Chichimec weren't Mexicas.
@@joelmartinez2391
Mexica come from chichimecas.’ Chichimecas is a term for a group of people this includes many tribes to the north of central Mexico. Mexicas were chichimecas once upon a time.
WE ARE ONE....ONE FAMILY....OLMEC MAYA AZTECA INCA LINCA TOLTEC ZACATEC...and many others This is the original family....we do real research
Besides there are many objects throughout Mexico from the Orient. Just look at the people's features from Oaxaca...
What about those features? Cite the sources for those many items from the orient. Don’t hide your knowledge, share my good man!!!
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The Olmecs looks African not Asian.
African people are not the only ones with those types of features 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️ …. Go read a book and actually learn something instead of thinking you know something
Hey mate
It is unlikely the Olmecs and their interest in pyramids was influenced by the Egyptians.
The Egyptians were building pyramids from about 2700 to 2100 BCE
The Olmec culture (and their pyramids is dated to 1200 BCE to 400 BCE
That is to say, the Eqyptians were 900 years ahead of the Olmecs
The construction methods used by the Egyptians and the Olmecs were quite different.
The Egyptians used cut stone quarried at sites quite removed from the pyramid itself
The inner core, intermediate material and the outer finish layer were all cut stone.
Mesoamerican pyramids were were piles of irregularly snaped rocks and gravel held in place with blocks there were effectively a retaining wall. These pyramids were not finished with stone but plastered over with a layer of stucco.
Egypt has nothing to do with the Olmec history goodbye
@Marcos Sealey lol NativeAmerican.
@@juansanchez5001 Hispanics think it's them that are the olmec people, wrong!!
Marcos Sealey is that English?
marlon B hispanics? You mean native Americans from the America’s? Yes they believe they are descendants of precolumbian civilizations, rightfully so. It’s also backed by multiple dna studies. They also have the facial features seen on glyphs, statues, and other iconography from the region. Can’t truly say the same of the Egyptians or nubians appearing to even look like the Olmec heads.
Your display of Olmec art is sadly shallow. It would be wise to include a serious sub-section on the 'portable art' of the Olmec culture, beyond the mere monolithic carvings, such as the giant heads. You did give mention to masks but a wealth of other ceremonial objects are critical to the subject at hand.
El_Choctaw_lord_de_AztlanCalifasMexico = ANTZ
In my humble opinion, the Americas were settled by Boat Migrations following the coasts & living off of seals, fish, shellfish during many separate waves.
There’s no proof. The olmecs were the first civilization but not the first people. The Olmec civilization was thriving way before any African sail the oceans. They were isolated for many years. There is probe of people coming and out in waves. But not mass migrations by boat.
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Olmec people I don't know whether they came from Africa or south America or Atlantis lemuria mu maybe they were star people
Facts I think they from a continent that’s suck around the Americans then navigated the rest of the world
Olmec people know their history we are the ones trying to figure it out.
Take foil off your head
Is this where omelette's come from?
🤣 you’re a fool
😂😂😂😂
What if God was the instructer of how way and when to built the piram.. just like noah knew what to do..its mind blowing that in all historie nobody thinks about God the creator of all..
Mexico 🇲🇽 culture to the world 🌎
The Olmecs probably had mixed relations with other Amerindians as well as Polynesians, Europeans, Ashkenazim, Sephardim, Mestizos, Castizos, And Cholos
Or probably not.
they became the mixe and zoque people.
Jesus Christ wtf.
They're 100% Mesoamerican. Their DNA has been recovered from their burials.
Ashkenazim?😂😂😂 Before Columbus? Wym? R u Mormon?
Where my crazy Afro-centiks at?
Go and look at your MOM, you will see one!
A mutation talking about a civilization 😂
Probably seeing what other culture to hijack.! Probably next thing they come up with will be aliens are black. 😂😂 goody ass nigas
When studying some structures, such as pyramids, a more remote view may be required. European point-of-view interferes with evidence...such as the more ornate construction of the American as opposed to the more 'utilitarian' aspect of the Egyptian...which gives rise to the question...which is a copy of the other?? It is not an accepted fact that Egyptian are older, it is just an opinion. Doubtless the two 'pyramid-building' civilizations were VERY ancient, and contain clues as to their origin, but it must be understood these civilizations were far more advanced in specific areas than modern man. The science behind these structures has been completely ignored. This fact bears repeating. THE SCIENCE BEHIND THESE STRUCTURES HAS BEEN COMPLETELY IGNORED. The 'intrepid explorers' of the upper class, were, in general, uneducated persons with an existing agenda of affirming the existence of the royal class...any worthwhile findings are filtered through this 'royal and upper class' and remain hidden until such time as/when they can be used against you...
Your just spouting off nonsense. You also ignore that the majority of academics working in the Americas, are not European or of European descent. Granting an older age doesn’t work. You’re ignoring science just to the benefit of a lie sold by individuals who make money by pushing said lie.
Olmecs were the first furries
Maps at 14:12 are totally wrong for the Olmec civilization which was in Mexico not Paraguay.
To me, native Americans have asian features
At 22 minutes in, does anyone think this could be half of a statue of a woman? The 'man' inside is holding the handbag i see across other early civilisations
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why make something that you have to lie about?
WTF - why is there a map of San Lorenzo, Paraguay in this video?? Wow, the Olmec civilization was way bigger than I thought. Lol. Maybe you should stick to the middle east and europe.
sporting wear, a typical reductionist quackademic postulation
Polysyllabic denunciation of academic expertise by an individual with no such expertise, while atypical of those who reject academia, is still amusing.
are you getting paid by all the stupid advertisement interuptions , in 5 minutes there has been 5 adverts. if u r i will subscrbe if you have no idea sue youtube
The africans walk from mexico to jamaica to florida to Brazil BEFORE the caribbean sea was formed................
I’ll note this as part of the fiction section for you.
@@macarde10 solid definite,..EVIDENCE,override Any inferior jealous rebuttal...😫😫😫
@@ludrdon ahhhh, emojis, it must be a good fairy tale indeed then!
@@ludrdonyou can’t even spell or put words together correctly smh I can’t take you serious.🤷🏽♂️
Big lie...
This is rambling unsubstantial, very general, and error prone. Almost no pix of artifacts or other telling photos..