Story of an IT family lived in US for 20 Years and been living in India for 10 years | NRI | R2I
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- Rajiv and Meena spent 20 years in the US before moving back to India. They have been living in India for 10 years. They talk about how they planned the move, kids education, work culture, career transition, social life, cost of living etc.,
Here’s some of the topics we covered:
Background
Reason for moving back
Planning the move
Kids education considerations
Career transition
Work culture and opportunities
Kids transition and adjustment
Social life
Things that they miss in US
Cost of living
Any topics that we haven’t covered?
Advice for the future aspirants
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Very good Channel. Thanks for such an effort
Thanks a lot for such encouragement. Plz subscribe and share with others who can benefit from the content. Thanks
2:10 , 8:59 This guy is so confused. 🤣😂🤣
Highly appreciate the clear and sincere insights provided!
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Thank you for sharing the story, both of you so humble, so true, touched my heart, i am in east coast, wish I had meet you or listen channel. Feel proud of you and anchor for bring great story like this. Thank you
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Thank you Avinash for posting insightful videos on “return to India”. Rajiv and Meena I am glad that you made a bold move. Thank you both for your valuable time.
Thanks a lot for the feedback. Glad you liked the videos.🙌
Thanks!!
Congratulations Rajiv ji and Meena ji, good move, nothing like home, we are waiting for our turn in Australia
Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts. All the best
Don't come here
@@rajanathanc5468 shut your up
Congratulations. I wished but did not execute. Great couple.
Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts
So basically think long term don't let little things bother you. You'll enjoy your life.
Long term goal - living with parents or in-laws, kids education in good/international schools, easy access to healthcare, overall things are cheaper compared to US/ you get help if you want/ more services n professional help.
Write down what are your Short term goals : maybe find friends/ social circle, access to groceries, library, parks, at times free activities.
Thanks for watching and summarizing your thoughts
Avinash seem very good at communication!
Thanks for watching and for feedback!
OUCE Karan Johar (aka) Avinash Peddi..Great going to good to see on this platform...All the best my friend!!!
😂 Thanks buddy!! Hope the content helps families with their desi return decision and process!
Very insightful. What is the ideal window to make a move back to India? especially if you are in living in US with 2 kids. I guess i missed the bus, but like to know your views on ideal window for making such a move successful from family(kids here as well as old parents back home) standpoint. I do not want others to miss the bus or this window of returning back to India. Thank you..!
Glad you liked the episode. Ideally when kids are young and parents are still healthy. Anytime before kids go in middle year, they will adjust very well asss they are visiting India regularly. Good luck!
I moved back to india and am very happy now.. dont feel like going back.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.Would you be open to share your story on the platform?
Why
Good one!
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Inflation in India is at nonsensical levels for a poor country. Dosa for 150 rs today vs 20 rs in 2004? Housing at US prices in India? What crap. Businesses in India are mimicking the west and try to fleece the public, but salary levels are no where comparable to what they are in other countries. We cannot have so much inflation in a poor and developing country like India.
How much is a dosa in the US? Around 12$ to 13$ easily (more in some places) so 150 is reasonable
@@AP-qu8slare you actually sane? What's wrong with your reasoning power??? Think clearly... Before commenting... Direct conversion of dollar to rs.
@@AP-qu8slok. You compared dosa, next idly .. next compare home prices and rent prices. Finally compare salary. Then tell
@@yo.yo.8619 lol, he mentioned dosa and hence I compared “dosa”
You don't even have to pay for water, grains and so many other things. In the US we pay a heavy price and tax for everything. If you can't pay your taxes you become homeless.
Was it a visa issue or did they already get gc?
They are USC. Did you miss it in the episode?
People who move back to India later they turn as US citizens or Canadian citizens or GC have always flexibility and advantage if they want to go back, I respect though. But mad respect to folks who move back to India when they are in visa! It is not an easy decision
Thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts. Moving back is NOT an easy decision at all and only few who make it happen.
I am living in the east coast
I agree with the wife's points so much
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@@DesiReturn excellent ethnography of upper caste angst. Can you also find out what they think about democracy and whether the US is more racist while India is just casteist. It would be great to see how these Brahmins are fixing their future
Are you a casteist ? You sound like one
@@RS-ox1vd Let me give you a test and see if you are really an upper caste bigot: Are you for reservations and will you argue for it to be extended to the private sector. If the answer is NO. I understand your politics. Are you for the caste based census ? If the answer is NO. You are making your politics even more clearer. Are you willing to shout Godse Murdabad ? If the Answer is No, then all the more clearer about your upper caste prejudice bias and hate against us. You people are the most pampered minority in India. Now busy gaming the liberal democratic system in the WEST. After exploiting the dalit and tribals and making OBCs work on producing your food you people think that we have no right to free ourselves from you exploitation and hate. But the wheels are turning and its a matter of time before we sort out your dirty politics and hate. Jai Hind Jai Bhim
When did they move to India.?
10 years ago
Thanks for sharing, but many of these interviews are misleading. Most of them would be having US (non-India) citizenship and kids would be going back to the US for further studies.
Thanks for watching and providing your thoughts. Actually lot of interviews in the channel are other way aroundround ( indiam citizens who moved). Intent is to bring stories at different stages of life. Thanks
Could you please share any podcast who moved without citizenship?
exactly Yeshvant....these folks have US passports ....
True and prolly they have huge savings large enough to send their kids to America for college
My daughter is in 7th grade and I want to go back to India after living here for 9 years.
She's leaning towards the US for activities for kids.
Please return. Only dalits muslims and ONCs shoudl be allowed in the US. MOst upper caste are having a hard time living in liberal and democratic societies. Move at the earliest becasue controlling women with patriarchial norms is the essence of brahminism. No one will miss you in the US. AIr India one way ticket
So go back. What is the issue? No law prevents you from it.
please go. what is the problem?
Please don’t wait too long. It is very difficult to do so when they are already in college.
If you want to move back why do people come to usa on first or is it the citizenship status which is so lengthy?
People at different phases of life want to do different things. While young, travel around and then later that priority might change
People do so for many reasons. Why do people travel the world?
US citizenship, I had green card, advised by an international lawyer in California that in my case, it was best to get rid of the green card asap. Done and Dusted. No regrets.
First, have you renounced your US citizenship? Have your child(ren) renounced citizenship? If NO, then its all hogwash.
Quality of material life & professional life in India is pathetic. Law & enforcement in India is best not discussed. Judiciary, people only have contempt for it. All these make a country as first world, which US is. There is nothing wrong in settling in US or other developed country if one gets an opportunity. But faking it for India is hypocritical.
Thanks for watching
why should they renounce US citizenship and start from zero ??
Once you have 5cr / 10cr Rs, Indian quality of life is better than US for equal amount.
@@fwefhwe4232 junk. If u do not understand India, do not talk.
If you get into any small trouble in INdia with police (like someone hit u on ur car and its not ur fault), the way u would be looted for money is something best experienced.
The legal recourse for just about anything takes decades and drive millionaires into poverty. Its not that in US or other country its cheap but at least its quick unlike here where u keep paying lawyers for decades.
Cities are very dusty and dirty.
Education is old and archaic. It is rote based edu even in unis (excepts a top few like IIT and its equivalent in law, business, commerce, journalism, history, ...etc.)
Medical is like alibaba 40 theives. It is not protocol based treatment in India but it is ur net worth based.
So keeping all the privileges of US citizenship and talking big in India is of no use. So renounce first then talk. Or simply state the truth. US citizenship has its own advantage in edu especially funding/scholarship and many other advantages in job, ...etc.
@@fwefhwe4232 Due to global taxation followed by the US
There is no double taxation and also exempt of US tax up to certain limit on global income
Americans living in chennai, India
Thanks for watching
I do not know why this vedio. 99% of people living in US ( Malayalee) never return to Kerala or India in normal. This family may be having different problems. Their children are US citizens. They will go back again. These people are, I think, having IT people. They will go back again to US to reap the fruits there. USA is a very good place for professionals people.
Kerala looks good only on paper , most literate state etc etc but to live there is very difficult compared to other southern states in India. Even keralites who have lived over 20 years in other states majority don’t return.Guess then what happens to them when they go to us, uk , nz …. No wonder
Thanks for sharing your perspectives
very prescriptive stance..."do this", "think like that"....would've been more effective if they had shared more real examples of how they adjusted, things that worked, things that did not, day to day challenges - for example, when 18:11 the guy says, "life is not perfect" it would have been nice to give instances when they felt so rather than hammering the point about 'knowing why you want to come back'...the interviewer could have asked them to illustrate (interviewer needs to be more relaxed, and carry on a conversation rather than Q&A format)
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. You have to balance the act of hitting the key areas in ~ 30 min and not let conversation drag on. I prefer conversation style and would pay extra attention.
The wifey should have spoken through the entire interview. Way more coherent !
People move for various reasons but Geoarbitrage is generally a financial wise strategy.
True until you are at stage where the extra money doesn’t add more value
The very fact that their accent hasn't changed shows they belong here. Otherwise the usually ordinary insecure NRI changes his accent first.
That's true bro......
Thanks for watching
The are living in India for 10 yrs so definitely accent has changed back to south Indian accent 😃
RELAX DIALECTS DICTIONS ACCENTS ARE NORMAL WHEN SHIFTING CULTURAL PLACES DONT WORRY.
Yep… ordinary insecure NRIs like Sundar Pichai, Satya Nadella etc 🤣🤦♂️
Will never go back to a country which respects Narayan Murthy who pays 2 dollar per hour salary for engineers sucking 98 dollars as commission in between. On top of that he demands 70 hours work week when paying only for 40 hours. As long as such chronic capitalists are given a free hand, hard working middle class will end up dying on the streets with peanut salaries. My cousin in law who passed away with a cardiac arrest at 33 was not even reimbursed for death certificate cost of 10 dollars by Infosys. HR said they are not in the business of transporting dead bodies back to India. Not to mention both of Murthy's kids quit India long back and are not returning even when Mr. Murthy is 78 and showing all signs of dementia.
His business generates hundreds of thousands of jobs in India, and you?
@@londonds91 His over working and under paying business is in fact killing hundreds of thousands of people with cardiac arrests and you even more by supporting such monsters. China CEO told employees to keep their support phone on 24 hours and she is not their mother to be concerned of their health. And she was made to publicly apologize. Narayan Murthy is demanding 70 hours per week and shameless people like you will support such statements. Sad Indians do not care for their own fellow countrymen.
It depends on the age. At young age, you want GC and citizenship, then you move on to get a house and lead the so called American dream.....but as the kids grow then you change. Narayana Murthy issue will fade away.....it appears you are just too young......
Sorry bud, India is bigger than Narayan Murthy. When lots of folks got fired from Google, Microsoft, Sundar Pichai and Nadella still raked up millions in compensation.
So your logic does not make sense
@@gauthamvasudeva9271 Sorry you are wrong. Narayan Murthy is just one of such chronic guys. I am a living example of how Murthy gave 25 thousand rupee salary sucking up 95 % commission from end client and now I earn 80 dollars per hour working for the end clients in USA directly with a Andhra staffing firm as commission agent who sucks only 20 % commission. India is not about Ambani wedding my friend. Indians are talented but peanut salaries by chronic capitalists dissuade people from returning back to India. Cheap labor concept has to go.
Please ask one question not a time.
Thanks for the feedback and i will keep it mind in the future episodes
During old age it’s difficult tasks for Lawn moving and removing snow and in overly old age it’s again difficult to drive self for hospitals and do household work for women’s.
This is when they remembered India. So that they get maid. After earning crores n crores u can easily give away some money to tc.
This is actual fact and none would like to talk about the it….
True. Living as an empty nester abroad is very tough
Here from USA ...
Feedback : Very lengthy questions
IMO the couple is full of trash talk, the guy seems to be cool though
Thanks for the feedback. Again please appreciate that guest took time to share their journey for the benefit of others. if you didn't like, you are welcome to skip it. Will be mindful of questions.
Stop saying “return back”. Return = going back, so you are saying going back back 😂
Thanks for watching. 😄Thanks for pointing out
Video is lengthy.. it should have been shorter..!!
We plan to do shorts that cover specific points but as a podcast the videos are about 30 min
What they did is good for them maybe but not for everyone. Make proper moves.
Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts. Yes everyone's situation is different. Goal of channel is to provide enough information for people who are considering to move or not make the right decision for them. We are not encouraging people to move or stay abroad but different experiences and factors to consider. Thanks
Yes. My husband's elder sis came back with her husband as her in-laws wanted them to(getting old). She acted like such a sacrificial lamb, accepting the decision, then kept torturing everyone (she used to say "Your country" also), crib and crib and find fault with our country. Took my life out by daily torture and took it out on us, never let us be, Interfering , meddlesome, narrow minded creature. My husband I suffered/suffering. NRIs , please make an informed decision. Both spouses should.
@@user-ti9tc9ir8i that seems rude and gaslighting for you to minimize her situation. Everyone has their journey.
India is best place to stay if u have enough money
Go to India only when you become financially independent.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts
If you listen to most of these people who return they might be having issues in their families or visas or something or the other. Very few come back to India because they like most things about India. The number of people surrendering their Indian citizenship is at record high currently. This was not the case in the past. Democracy is degenerating in India along with it everything eg. foreign policy. If a war comes, India is surrounded by China.
There are lot of people who moved to India not due to visa issues or family issues but who believe in Indian ecosystem. I agree it's only a minor % though.
@@DesiReturni said most of them. There might be a very small minority which returned for other reasons. But again if you look at it, they will be citizens of other countries and will have the buffer to return if needed. The number of people surrendering Indian citizenship is at record high number now. That speaks of something for sure.
Democracy is degenerating ? Foreign policy? China? Seems you are just finding reasons .
If a war happens...not comes.
First 30sec kuch kam karo. Bit boring
Thanks for watching. It's intro for new people and returnees can skip. But we will keep it mind and see what we can do. Thanks for feedback
I hope their children too stay in India and not move to the US
Why do you think so?
@@krishnam8872 why not? India is booming with opportunities so why go elsewhere? When they grow up their parents will become old and will need physical help. Who else can they depend on but their children. What’s wrong with you?
@nuranichandra2177 when asking your perspective it doesn’t mean something’s wrong with you or me. I have been seeing and checking a lot of messages and videos regarding this topic since we are planning to move back to India with our kids after living here for more than a decade. Dont read between the lines, all the questions are not derogatory, they might be looking for an elaborate explanation.
Yes it's a genuine question. I don't understand why we get offended if the question is asked with no bad intention at all...
@@nuranichandra2177 we can't or should not ever demand or force our children to stay back in India just so that they can look after us. It's kind of selfish in my perspective... We have to let our children explore, experience and grow on their own and we should provide our unconditional support. It should be their wish to live wherever they like...
After ayodhya inauguration and bharat renaming I expect over 3 million Indians to return over next 3 yrs as layoffs rock western world and they all coordinate recession. Whiteman designed this for indians to return. I also expect foreign made products and services get more attractive for consumption in India. Deals will be signed in world trade organization and west will come to sell more products and services over next 3 - 5 yrs.
It is not all bad though. Standard of living in India is steadily increasing much like in China in the early nineties.
It is not a useful discussion for
the following reasons..
1..They are still US citizens otherwise she cant work for a US company.
2.physically staying in India but not being a citizen is hypocritcal at best.
3. All these talks about culture and taking care of parents etc etc all is an eyewash.
4.Finally never trust anyone who returns back to the lavilion after spending 2 decades.. Whatever they say will never be clear and truthful.
1. No need to be USC to work for US company in India. Lot of Indians for US based companies in India
2. Tax paying resident
3. Priorities are different for different people
4.There are quite few people who fall in that category for either retirement or for kids etc
I am Indian Canadian. Still I agree with your points. Make sense.
For people wishing to watch this video spoiler alert.. They are Americans living in India😂
But they are tax paying residents of India 😊
I wish in future our Indian Govt should ban them to rerun back. People now a days always want profit in everything. Including personal life.
This channel should be retitled: Instead of Desi Return it should be 'When Upper caste Hindus decide to play Both sides'. Interesting how their last names have been withheld. Pure politics here. Because this is very clear in how they are talking. Last ten years in India has been hell for Muslims and Dalits and democracy in general. These guys live in lalaland. Of course why should they be involved in politics you will ask. But that is why India has been turned into a nightmare where only upper castes now have the life they want which is to get minorities screwed and dalits humiliated. How can you not mention the fact that India's culture and food has been turned Majoritarian by constantly gutting the constitution. These are typical of the people who would have said lets not speak against Hitler because that is politics and it does not matter what he does to the Jewish people becasue thats politics. Lets just eat our sambar and make sure that the kid gets a quality education. Life is just an idily away from Happiness. Pathetic upper caste insularity. But a good channel to expose this upper caste mind set. Thanks
Ok so let’s discuss this. Muslims and Dalits lives have gotten worse?
Muslims Haj is cheaper, monopoly of vendors is removed from haj products, instant theen talak has been removed. More reservation has been brought in for backward classes, by digitizing direct payments are made to the downtrodden removing corruption, toilets have been made across the country etc. the only people not directly befitting are upper caste Hindus but when infrastructure is built all are benefited so they are also befitted. India is racing towards becoming 3rd biggest economy. Gadgari ji has done a fantastic job with infrastructure. So other than the ones who want to see India fail everyone has benefitted. You are spewing castist venom but aren’t we all supposed to remove caste discrimination? If you don’t adjust your mindset only you will suffer. The fact less opinions are only encouraged in echo chambers not the real world.
@ladusingh..Who is in Lalaland...upper caste Hindus are struggling to get good education and job because of SC/ST.They are getting good jobs and admissions in good colleges with less marks. One of my student who studied day and night and got good marks 96% ddnt get admission in his favourite college / but his sc friend who got jst 54% gt admission in the same college .He asked us what s the point in working hard and studying ...when someone snatches ur opportunity without any hardwork
@@Indicthoughts898 I dont normally respond to Andha Bhakts but since your facts are so hilarious let me just give you a couple of international stats on India . India is no longer considered to be even a democracy. The V-Dem institute for the first time ever lists it as an electoral autocracy. That is just for starters. Check out India's position on the Human rights index. 109 lower than several banana republics. As far as those toilets running without water, I have personally seen how they have cooked stats. Dont give us garbage. Muslims dont care for Haj, so even if cheaper. Who cares. You need to stop this communalism this hate that is spewed out regularly and killing of minorities with gau rakshaks and raping dalit women like at Hathras. Oh yes Yogi government killing people in encounters under police watch. Which friggin world you live in. Upper castes are losing their sanity with this Guju mafia. of Modani. Good you have exposed yourself as an upper caste hater of minorities and dalits and obcs. Shame on you.
Wow you only know how to write but unfortunately you only know how to think parochially. You have no sense of reality and are used to parroting the lines of others and that to without any rationale thinking. Please stay safe and don’t blow up.
Why are you exposing yourself as biased, anti certain communities, bigoted anti national person