Experiment: Butt Joint Corner??? || Dr Decks
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- We've never seen this done before. The Doctor just invents a new technique on the spot and does it first try. What would you call this?
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So why doesn’t the manufacture make these available in packets of 10? This is where manufacturers aren’t paying attention!
or marketing
Wherever I have exposed ends, I encourage the customer to never, under any circumstances, look at them.
I just experimented with doing a "return" same as you would on interior trim mouldings. It turned out pretty nice. Cut the 45 bevel and a little return piece. Just glued the returns in, same as would do on interior trim. I did it on the ends of the stair risers, making it so there were no cut edges showing (picture framed treads and tucked side fascia cut edges under treads/behind riser boards). Think that will be my new way of doing composite stairs, they look very nice and finished.
This makes sense
I'm watching this in 2024.
I will be using this technique on my deck build to avoid miters for picture framing. Super clean look..
Same here
A contractor friend did something very similar, but with laminate flooring for a client of his who wanted her black marble threshold to match the rest of the flooring but refused to allow him to chip it away because of the “dust” she said it would create. He wound up running the 1/2” laminate over the table saw blade set to 7/16 height and marking what seemed like 100s of curf cuts leaving just the top of the laminate flooring board. He then used contact cement to secure to the threshold after scuffing it for adhesion. Another great video/tutorial Dr. Keep doing what you do. Keep being you.
Woodworkers use a Dado blade for that. Can get in various widths or even adjustable. Quick, easy, accurate once set up.
I wonder if you could get a similar result by setting the end of your deck board you need the butt joint on upside down on your chop saw. Set the depth of your saw blade to leave 1/8 inch material. Then cut multitude of cuts in your board moving it a blades width each time until you've cut the thickness of the board length wise. Then use heat gun to bench the left over material over, and glue. Then use flush trim bit router to clean it up.
why not just CA glue a mitered return. then you could maintain the profile of the deck board
Agreed. That's the way it should be done.
Will Ca glue hold up from the weather
@@SuperTomzilla44 CA glue is so strong ....it holds relationships together
Love it man, you’re defiantly at the front line of deck building!
Nice. A longer piece can be obtained from the decking board, if the grain direction is matched to the side grain, as opposed to making it look like an end grain cut. And as we know, real wood would not show either grain that we can steal from the top or long edges of the board.
Some long square edge deck boards have a smooth finish, only matching the color. Scraps can be used to get these as well. I need to play around a bit on the next job site. Would love to get away from the miter cuts, since they tend to move, no matter how well we do with them.
Thanks for the videos!
I'd make a zero clearance insert for the table saw then the rips wouldn't fall in the slot. If you had a bunch of them to do would it be quicker to cut them a little bigger then router off the excess? Or would that mar up the faces of the decking? Just curious because that's how most countertop edge banding is done. Looks great and thanks for sharing your tips, tricks, and ideas with us.
It may mar the finish. I’m going to mess with it more in the future
Back in my cabinet installation days we used to call that " edge- banding". I've done it many times cutting laminate off countertop scraps to use on backsplash edges like you see in schools and hospitals.
Im re-decking my houseboat exterior decks with Trex, and I HATE HATE HATE the look of the ends. Not sure I will do every board like this, but I will definitely do the furniture pieces that have ends that show. Thanks for this.
I match Arborcoat solid stain to the color of the decking and paint the endcuts , never got any complains
Excellent work. Thanks for making this video.
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The peice can over lap all around. Then Put blue tape to protect the board. The peice can over lap the top and bottom. Then router the edges off.. break out the file to smooth it off
Like laminate countertop.
Why don't you just return it? Like when you end baseboard or moldings.
Cut 45 degree on the end, then cut a little 1 inch 45 degree piece and glue it on. Would look better, wouldn't have to paint it
They way he did it would look better then doing a return like you are talking about. With a return you will see a cut mark where it was returned. His way is a cleaner look.
Great work...you do so much for detail, that I like....how did you get the color match done, taking a small piece of board to store?...thanks Rick
Yes. Now AZEK offers color codes for most of their decking colors
Wash your video before this one on the same subject I just tried it on a small deck I did on the stairs and it has worked great thanks a lot
Idk why they don't have something like edge banding tor this
i tried this but the glue didn't even hold for one winter. how is yours holding up?
had you cut from a side of scrap ?
Color match is good but if you added some of those shaving with the paint it might be better. Not sure.
How about a 45 degree turn down instead. Would seem easier and less labor intensive. With the same result.
Anyone ever try this glue procedure to join 2 lengths of Trex fascia together? Fascia only comes in 12’ lengths and to avoid butt joints just wondering if it would be feasible.
I think that that is a beautiful idea and have considered it myself prior to watching this video. However the one thing that bugs me out about it is how is it going to hold up in the weather? Is freeze thaw or just rain in general going to blow that thing off of an end grain?... Doctor I think that we need to do a study?
Time will tell
@@drdecks And what did time tell?
You're not just any Dr. You're a plastic surgeon! Blew my mind with this trick!
could you not have used a plainer to thin them out a little more after you cut them off?
Nice job. Can you imagine doing that on 30 or 40 deck boards though?
Looks good.
Also, why not just do an actual return and glue?
A true master!
Rad work!
Why not just cut the edge off one and glue that? Also never apply pressure with a push stick once you have past the blade.
Next time spray with the board off the table (ie extended beyond the end) ;)
Been doing this for years
Impressive!
AWESOME!
very nice.
A lot of comments
Why not just do a mitered return?
I hate miters
why on earth doesn’t Azek sell 50/100 packs of these “ends” at some absurd price like the rest of their products?
Bad ass!
A lot of man hours for this task. They should come precut from the manufacturer as an option.
Try using a bastard file instead of a rasp.
OMG I lost my mind watching this nonsense ,,ITS A DECK NOT A PANIO ,,,these people must have lots of money
Some people have the budget for nice things.
literally a waste of time
Cool trick..why not just cut a return like you would with base board..I’ve used it on trex and fiberon decking..it’s just skipping a few steps..still yet good results with what you did👍🏻
I did this today but I stopped because of the paint idea. What really stopped me is the winter cold.
Will the glued piece stay during the freezing winters?
Thanks
To make it safer install a zero clearance insert on your table saw. Try the microjig push blocks.
The reason the one piece was thicker it was the first pass. On your second pass the product was bent into the blade and thinned out.
What about doing your mitre trick. Cut, bend, glue.
Looks great!
Or just rip one side and use razor knife to cut one piece from each rip while thin piece is still half attached.
I am doing a deck now and this is exactly what I needed to learn for my finished look--thank you!
Think you can do it with a router and heat to fold it down so there’s no filing or stain on the too edge?
Maybe the deck manufacturers could make the pieces? Not much different than edge banding wood.
Nice experiment. I like it! It's a step above what my friend did today. He simply used the color match paint and painted the ends. I thought it looked really good. But not as nice as this.
Hey doc Yea we have been doing this for a long time even with Trex and it’s held up amazing 👍👍👌👌👌
I just cut a 45 and put a return stop on the end. But I like what u did good job
Safer with a router and a flattening setup
I'm definitely stealing this idea for my future deck rebuild.
It’s thicker because you were pushing against the bkade
Could you cut that end cap a little oversized then use a routrr?
How do you cut these piece on a table saw. Make a video on it. Like your work
Does that 2p-10 stick to composite too or only pvc?
Sweet idea! Turned out great!!
Why not miter?
Nice work on this end cap Dr.
That looks awesome, nice job
Maybe you should ask TT to make you some as edge banding…
I have.
Great tip - Will definitely be using this when doing my fascia boards. I think this would look great on the butt ends at the corners. Thanks for sharing!
What paint finish do you use for the AZEK boards? semi-gloss, matte?
Matte or satin
@@drdecks Sorry, which BEHR paint do you use?
Love the video man your the best . I’ll post some more tommrow done on our decks 👍much better then alternative methods
I ripped the edge off some scraps and glued that on - not a 'waterfall' continuation of grain but still nice.
Beautiful work!
So are planning on doing that after you cut the ends to length?will look very good but if you mess up one you have to replace the whole board.or do think you will cut to length and do this first on a table then line up the ends perfect.