Wouldn't it be perfect if they tweak the engine just enough and 1 or 2 extra gears for a little more power and fuel economy. Other minor improvements could be led lights, better camera resolution. Many of us fear new 4R will have touch screen controls and removed low range selector lever. A fully operational smart cruise is a must, it is so unnerving not knowing whether traffic speed will drop below 25 and all of a sudden, I will have to brake myself or otherwise rear-end someone.
Here’s why they still sell. Bomb proof engine, trans, driveline. Unstoppable reliability. When you are 250 miles out in the middle of no where Toyota 4Runners and Landcrusiers are great peace of mind!
@@YocoWheelin yes, but fuel eco still sucks. but if somebody is buying one of these and fuel eco is a priority they are definitely looking at the wrong car 😂
Chris, Overbuilt + under-stressed = longevity. Of all the 4Runners you cannot find on a dealer lot right now, the TRD Off Road is the one I miss the most.😉 I think we can all agree, a 6 speed manual would go a long towards the elimination of the gear hunting problem . 😁
In 2018 my dad bought a TRD-Off Road brand new for $3000 under MSRP ($36,000 new) in Barcelona Red and it hasn’t lost 1 dollar in value over the last 4 years / 35,000 miles
Great review. I have a 2021 TRD Off Road Premium which I think is the sweet spot in the 4Runner lineup. I expect to drive this thing for the next 10 - 20 years. Can't beat their reliability.
Definitely I just bought a 2022 TRD had a 4runner from 2001 to 2012 and it was still running when I sold it with no mechanical issues other than regular maintenance highly reliable great SUV will have this one even longer great car love it.
no idea why theres sooo many haters in these comments. the 4runner is easily one of the best off-roading SUVs you can buy right now. you buy other SUVs at markup and after 3 years you'd be lucky to get half of the original MSRP for it. with a 4runner, you buy it at 55k and 3 years later its still within 20k of msrp, even after taking it off-road and beating the piss out of it, because the thing doesn't break. what a lot of people arent grasping here is the reliability, modularity, and versatility of these vehicles. there's not much else like it on the market right now. toyota's philosophy with the 4runner is if it ain't broke don't fix it, and it's obviously paying off because the 4runner sold like hot-cakes in 2021, at 144k units sold, most successful year for the car yet.
Bought mine way back in November, I've been in love with it ever since! I get compliments on the color all the time! The exhaust sounds pretty burly too, though I'd like something throatier at idle. 4Runner fam for life!
I think people just appreciate an old school honest to goodness simple truck. Most new vehicles r so disposable these days and this is before evs become mainstream. This and the gx does not feel that way.
I love mine. Wanted a GX460 Premium Plus for quite a while. Decided, if I could get a Pro for msrp and get good equity out of my trade I’d go for it. Only took 2 weeks of calling around within 100 miles of me. Constantly being told, “yes sir msrp! Next day: Actually…it’s gonna be a $5k bump bud., no thanks.” I really wanted white or magnetic grey but decided to take a leap with Lime Rush (no choice). Had seen a couple in person but not up close. Bought on a Friday delivered on Monday. After living with it since Feb. It makes me smile every time I see it. I love the attention it gets and it really goes well with the capability of the vehicle. The color is very pearlescent like and has many shades in all types of lighting. The exhaust drone was horrendous at first, I barely notice it now. It rides identical to a current year GX with the exception the GX has amazing handling in corners with KDSS keeping body roll a minimum. Fuel economy? I don’t do much highway driving (65+ mph) the highway to my work has about 6 large hills over 10 miles. I found I’d only get about 16.5 mpg throughout the week. Driving flatter backroads at 55-60ish mph I maintain 18.5 avg mpg per tank, on 93 octane. Yes, I spend the extra $9-$10 per fill up on 93. “To each my own”, recommends 87+ “or higher” still has a 10:1 compression ratio and my 2 cents it just has way better power and slightly better mpg vs 87 regular and 89 mid grade. I don’t find my transmission to be gear hunting that much I feel reminded of the older tcu style it just goes, upshifts when it should it’ll even downshift when I let off the throttle and are coasting downhill. It has excellent deceleration in the drivetrain, easy to go easy on brakes. If I’m not mistaking I’d almost think the tcu is semi adaptive to your driving style. 2900 miles and no complaints about lack of power or gear hunting.
I paid 55K for my 2022 TRD PRO and LOVE IT! The exhaust sounds great. If you want a quieter highway vehicle get a stock hybrid SUV. The exhaust noise is a non-issue as its purely driver preference. The 2022 TRD PRO has all the great features of the 4Runner. 2023 might be the last year you can grab this iconic 5th gen design/engine before they do some heavy mods in the Gen 6 models.
270 horsepower is pretty good honestly the problem is the torque at only 278, I have an 03 V8 limited and my friend is always surprised by how much torque I have compared to his moms new TRD Pro
I think the real problem is the 5 speed automatic. The torque wouldn’t feel as lacking if it had an 8 speed with closer gear ratios would do a better job staying in the power band. The Jeep Wrangler only has 260lb ft of torque but it’s 8 speed automatic improves acceleration tremendously.
The 6th generation 4Runner can't come soon enough. The new Tundra and Land Cruiser drive light years better than their previous counterparts and the interiors had a much needed update.
@no name You can't say, they've barely been out to tell. The reason Toyota is slow to innovate is because they make sure they release a reliable vehicle.
you're easily one of the best auto reviewers on youtube right now, but wanting a 2.3 ton SUV to run fast is simply your fault, I agree these are expensive thou.
If you're only keeping it 3-4 years it's expensive. If you're keeping it 10-15 or more years it's a good investment. It'll outlast most any SUV not made by Toyota/Lexus or Honda.
@@davidfence6939 I mean even if you keep it 3-4 years it’s worth it. Buy it for $45,000 then 3 years later can still sell it for $40k lol. I love my 4Runner
I love my 22 TRD OFF ROAD, the winter we had up here in central Canada this winter my 4runner made it enjoyable to drive in. The Off Road also has KDSS which is a huge plus for off roading and if I ever do sell I know ill make my money back on it! Can't wait for the Corolla GR review!
after land rover, mercedes, raptor and a wrangler 392, I finally got myself a 21 trd offroad, yes, the transmission is dated, steering wheel is heavy, but it's so damn reliable, no recall no transmission fault, no timing phaser noise no lifter problem it's so dated yet so simple, that's where the beauty shine...and it gets 340-370 miles per tank..
Wow, I didnt know these only came equiped with a 5 speed auto!!!!......Well, that Toyota reliability cant be beat, even if the hardware dates back to my grade school days
Laughed at the escape hybrid comment, I could instantly picture it. One other nice thing about that side exit exhaust, you can drive around with the hatch window down and it won't suck the exhaust into the cabin!
I have a 2016 TRD off road, I love the dang thing, she has 226k. I wish they offered a Manuel just because who wouldn’t love that? But still the five speed is a decent transmission and hasn’t given me issues, outdated as it may be.
@@jimmy22334 The new taco actually drives about a million times better with the manual. I wanted an auto but it was just so mushy to drive. At least the manual gave the thing a bit of life.
@@JJ-ws3zn That's nothing, I have 410,000km on my FJ cruiser which has the same motor, trans etc. Just regularly maintained, hasn't gave me a single issue, doesn't even burn a drop of oil.
@@Bigazzham thats toyota overengineering for you. quick example, toyota knows their connecting rods are strong enough at 50mm thickness so they go and make them 100mm thickness where as most companies would settle for 55 or 60mm. now apply that concept across all their manufactured parts and thats why they last so long
I “had”a 20 Trd pro 4Runner and Still have a 16 trail edition w/kdss. I recently (3 weeks ago) purchased a 23 trd off road premium without kdss. This is my 6th 4Runner. All have been stellar !!! I drive ALOT so I rotate every 2-3 years. I liked the pro version BUT I found the roof rack noise and droning exhaust to be not to my liking. Since I was going to change tires and suspension anyway that’s why I went back to the trd orp. I don’t really consider this an suv (per todays standards) this is a truck fully boxed frame vehicle.
I can't believe Toyota hasn't found a way to drop the A760E into the 4runner yet, it is structurally the same transmission with just one more clutch pack and one more overdrive. We would really appreciate that extra overdrive and swap out the old 3.73 for a 4.30 final drive. That would do wonders for the 4runner.
Let me shine some light on your review. The shocks in the off road package does not have the fox shocks and under breaking will nose dive a bit. It's soft but not as trail friendly. You can swap out the exhaust for a quiet one. For ne its not a game changer. I road in the trd pro 1 week ago in the 2023 model. It was a quieter ride. So Toyota did something. I'm an ex-suoerbike racer. For me I like the growling of an exhaust.
I get so confused by reviews of this vehicle. Everyone who tests them says they’re comfortable, smooth on the highway, have plenty of power, not too much cabin noise, great visibility etc BUT they’re not recommended for daily driving like what? Lol what am I missing?
Part of me loves that they keep this generation around so long to keep it relatively affordable, but it could really use an update at this point. The power train is woefully underpowered and the vehicle is not up to the task when driving on highways. At highway speeds, it has a tendency to get pushed around by the wind a lot and you won’t be passing very often.
FoTo Realistic When you compare them to other SUVs for sale on the market, yes, they are more affordable. For example, a new 4Runner starts at 37,605 whereas a new Tahoe starts at $50,500. So yes, they are affordable compared to the competition.
@@SmallBrickWall A 4Runner TRD Pro is 53K MSRP, makes Tahoe look like a bargain. You can't get a 4x4 4Runner for under 40K, not without some OFF-Road systems for under 45K. What makes 4Runners expensive is how basic and cheap the interiors are compared to modern vehicles. A german suv would seem like a spaceship compared to a 4runner. So paying 60K for super fake leather, cheap plastic and no luxury features is a lot. Hell a GX460 is miles ahead in terms of luxury on the same platform. And i'm not even talking about the insane marks up on new or used 4Runners, good luck finding a TRD 4Runner for under 50k right now.
I love the 4Runner. My car is a 2007 4Runner sport and I love it. I was looking to buy a 2022 but the interior is just too outdated for me. I want them to keep everything as is on the outside and in the engine bay. Just spice up the interior
The drone is annoying, but can be fixed. I know for the price you shouldn't have to fix anything, but the modding community is huge for 4Runners. Part of what's made me debate a TRD overhaul of a Limited.
The dedicated digital clock that’s been there in Toyotas since the beginning of time is something I miss in some of their other models. I would pay for that digital clock… simple and effective. Especially if they put it back in the teal/green VFD display. My 1990 pickup’s clock is still going strong and bright.
We have a '99 4Runner and always appreciated the dedicated clock as so many other vehicles integrate it into the radio, and sometimes it's hard to see. I was afraid the new ones would do away with the clock, or put it in a place where the ambient light washes it out. I was pleasantly surprised to see that Toyota made it BIGGER, brighter, and gave it a little sun shade overhang so it's readable under almost every condition.
@@RobS123 yeah, many of their models no longer have a dedicated clock. I love the classic VFD clock (dark background with numbers that light up) vs. the LCD style. It’s easy to read at a glance.
Got a 2023 Solar Octane 4 Runner TRD Pro and I love it. What a Great SUV. Not concerned with the speed of the motor. It’s a solid truck with Toyota reliability that’s still made in Japan.
In reality, you can’t get a lot of vehicles for $55k, MSRP’s are inflated, dealer fees are inflated, market adjustments, even used crap, especially trucks of any variety are more expensive then that. If you need to buy something in this market it’s still a good deal. I built a bronco on Fords website, checked inventory, called the dealer as inventory was there, the price went up 5k for dealer fees, 61k with a take it or leave it mentality from the dealer, it will be sold to so schmuck regardless.
at 4:15 you said the engine is "...dated, not a ton of power, not a ton of torque..." I looked up the biggest 4Runner competitors (Jeep Wrangler v6, Nissan Pathfinder, Honda Passport, and Kia Telluride). All of them had ~10-20 more HP than the 4Runner, but the 4Runner has ~10-20 more torque than any of these (I know you can get a Wrangler 392 or hybrid, but comparing to the main v6 that almost everyone gets). It's definitely an old engine, but maybe more so the transmission than the HP (def not the torque vs competitors)?
They make a TRD cold air intake that will give you better gas mileage and more torque. My 06 Tacoma JUMPS OFF THE LINE. Gets 5 more miles to the gallon too.
It's a good looking truck, and reliable as hell. But numbers don't always tell everything. Drove it a month ago and it lacked engine strength, then drove a V6 Sienna and that thing rocked me forward... Toyota makes good engines..
I noticed that too. Opinions change over time. The thing with power is funny though. In 2019 it was plenty. In 2022 it’s adequate. Numbers keep going up and up. I’ve driven some fast cars. I own a 4Runner. It rarely feels lacking in power to me. Idk to each his own.
I have a 2022 TRD Pro and I'm not gonna lie, the tech are pretty nice. 360 cameras, blind spot monitor, adaptive cruise, etc. I wouldn't have bought the 4Runner if they had not added the new technology.
@@whocaresjustdoit Yea blind spot monitoring is a first for 2022 is kind of ridiculous, should have been implemented years ago. Still really shitty back up camera quality for a 60K suv. No folding mirrors, no option for a 3 zone climate control. I have a 2016 GX that has all of these features and tech, even more so than a 22 4Runner. Not hating but 4Runners are a little too basic and outdated for the price tag. My gf has a 22 Pro so I know the vehicle.
@@GXMAN16 lol I agree with all the points above. I bought the vehicle because of its uniqueness and I change vehicles quite often, and therefore wanted something that will hold its value when the time comes. I traded in a Ford Raptor for this 4Runner TRD Pro and so far I'm really enjoying it.
@@whocaresjustdoit That's interesting, I used to have a TRD Pro Tacoma that I traded in for a Raptor, and never looked back. It's was big, but the power just felt amazing after the Taco. And again I wasn't hating against a 4Runner, many people choose 4Runners over GX460s because of how they look. I do love the way it looks, the hood scoop and different sitting position. My GX can follow any trail behind my gfs PRO but it looks like a bland soccer mom suv lol. And the 4runners keeping their value insanely is shy I bought the gx, gx loose their value a lot more. So when I saw a 2016 4Runner Off Road and a 2016 GX with similar miles and same price for 34K, it was a no briandr I got the GX which luckily was fully loaded luxury trim, with tech and features that even 2022 Pros don't have. I do afraid the value will drop once the new powertrain comes out for 2023. For 2022 it's the last year for GX V8, which is one of two of last V8s officially on sale by Toyota, other being the 5.0 V8 in the Lexus 500 series sport sedans/coupes.
@@GXMAN16 Lol that's exactly why I didn't go with any of the Lexus vehicles. I just can't get over the soccer mom look. The Raptor was amazing but I was moving to a big city and just couldn't live with a vehicle that size. The 4Runner is a much more reasonable choice. I do miss the power from the Raptor for sure but the Pedal Commander kind of solves that problem in the 4Runner. I actually take the opposite point of view of what you said. I think a lot of ppl buy the 4Runner because of its ancient but reliable drivetrain. In my opinion, until the supposedly new turbo 4 cylinder engine & transmission combo can prove its reliability, this 5th gen 4Runner will still hold its value pretty well. Ultimately who cares lol. I didn't buy this vehicle to let it sit in the garage to sell later. I bought it to drive and I'm gonna drive the crap out of it 😁
For 2024 I want same 4R but with 6 or 8 speed, a little bit more power and economy, better cameras with identical button layout. I fear they will put big screen and remove buttons, knobs, and 4H 4L selector lever. A fully functional radar cruise would be great, what's the point if I have to be on watch for speed to drop below 25 mph and stop manually. I drove my friends Camry and it is so stressful drive knowing that I may have to suddenly take control of braking below 25.
People complain that they are old but if I was Toyota and continued to sell as many 4Runners as they do why the hell would you change perfection? There is not a single thing wrong with these vehicles and at lease with base model 4Runners you still get most of the gadgets related to technology…unlike ford where your screen is still a iPhone 5.
I just purchased a 2022 4 runner with 17k miles on it. Looking for recommendations on what to use to or where to take to get undercoating to prevent rust. I live in PA. TY!
I do miss the grab handles in the 4th gens on all four sides of the vehicle. Only the shotgun seat gets a handle to assist in getting in for the 5th gens now.
@@StubProductions I have a '15 TRD Pro -- first year Toyota offered the 4Runner in that trim level. I paid 46k and change out the door back then. I think 50k is reasonable for one in it's current configuration, anything more is just too much.
I sell Toyotas and i drive a 2020 TRD ORP and I would never buy a TRD PRO!!. Huge dealer mark up($10k-40k)for what a Fox lift, wonky roof basket and some special color. I bought a Trd off road premium for thousands of dollars less then msrp, no mark up. Then I added the lift(Bilstein)I wanted, a real roof basket, change valances, pro grill and pro rims and JL Audio stereo system, Gobi ladder, custom suede interior, black headliner, tint and raptor lights and I'm still thousands of dollars cheaper out the door then a Pro without the dealer mark up. if it's the color you want just wait a model year! Dealerships are ruining the value of PRO 4runners
Was it hard to find someone to update your sound system. I live in Grand Rapids and know one wants to touch it. I have a 2022 Toyota 4runner TRD off road premium.
@@michaellowery4001 I went to CarToys here in Lone Tree, CO. Picked out what I wanted, scheduled install, dropped it off in the morning picked it up after work, done. Even tipped the guys $100 cause he installed it flawless and sounds absolutely amazing.
I think these still sell well because of their reliability, and its like an older suv, and seems less complex than the shitboxes automakers spit out these days. Good old fashion v6 auto body on frame SUV. And it has a normal size infotainment screen, not an 80 inch TV. Its just such a good vehicle
They sell well because their fashionable. My neighbor bought one (TRD Pro), is kept in the garage all day, never sees any offroad. 4Runners have always been like this.
@@John-ki7zn Obviously you’re too blind to see the thousands of videos of those that take it on off road adventures. You’re confusing yourself with LAND ROVER that you rarely see. 😜😂
I actually think this things biggest competition is the tacoma, tundra and mabe the seq. bronco/wrangler buyers won't be interested. And a defender buyer would look at a heinous limited and laugh at the driving dynamics and mitsubishi like interior. I didnt realize how much freakin weight the 4runner gained (600+lbs) when the 5th gen was introduced made the engine update of the archaic drivetrain.
Natural competition is the Bronco, the Wrangler and maybe some small Land Rover. The biggest edge the 4Runner has is that it will run forever, you can comfortably drive it past the warranty period into some 6 digits. But if you only own one for 3-4 years or less, then it doesn't matter, buy whatever it is that you fance, all body on frame and capable off roaders with some gimmicky bullshit attached.
I do hate the droning of the TRD exhaust. I may change it out later this year. I average about 15 mpg before my K&N drop in filter, I get 16 mpg now living in the southeast.
Good Review..... i have one Red TRD Offroad Platinum 2022. these are the cons : 16 MPG . Noise during drive on Highways. Need a cable USB for connect the Android Auto and iPhone. USB Connector located near the knee. Min Low cruise system 28 Milles. Abrupt Disconnect Cruiser System under 28 miles Useless Wifi in Audio System with AT&T without good apps and improvementas. Strange behavior on sudden braking, no stability. Useless Eco Graphics in system audio. Very large scale for low fuel efficiency. Useless Eco Graphcs in dashboard Control. It doesn't have a glasses holder. does not have remote start. TOYOTA should provide the best USB cable to ensure phone connectivity
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Wouldn't it be perfect if they tweak the engine just enough and 1 or 2 extra gears for a little more power and fuel economy. Other minor improvements could be led lights, better camera resolution. Many of us fear new 4R will have touch screen controls and removed low range selector lever. A fully operational smart cruise is a must, it is so unnerving not knowing whether traffic speed will drop below 25 and all of a sudden, I will have to brake myself or otherwise rear-end someone.
Here’s why they still sell. Bomb proof engine, trans, driveline. Unstoppable reliability. When you are 250 miles out in the middle of no where Toyota 4Runners and Landcrusiers are great peace of mind!
Absolute fact
But can you go 250miles on a tank in one of these?
@@YocoWheelin yes, but fuel eco still sucks. but if somebody is buying one of these and fuel eco is a priority they are definitely looking at the wrong car 😂
@@YocoWheelin easily
@@YocoWheelin lmao. Barely. I hated my sr5 2018 company car I had. Slow, and was always putting gas in it, drove like diggity dog shit.
Chris, Overbuilt + under-stressed = longevity. Of all the 4Runners you cannot find on a dealer lot right now, the TRD Off Road is the one I miss the most.😉 I think we can all agree, a 6 speed manual would go a long towards the elimination of the gear hunting problem . 😁
ECU reprogram is needed. Previous gen with same drivetrain shift much better. I think they tuned trans shift points for fuel economy.
if Toyota can do it for the supra, and ford can do it for the brono, WHY NOT THE 4Runner Toyota?? Mic Drop
@@Yohannesb9 Exactly.
In 2018 my dad bought a TRD-Off Road brand new for $3000 under MSRP ($36,000 new) in Barcelona Red and it hasn’t lost 1 dollar in value over the last 4 years / 35,000 miles
Yep! They are almost like airplanes. They appreciate or maintain value! Pretty crazy
If you assume your dollar itself hasn’t lost value, yes.
Great review. I have a 2021 TRD Off Road Premium which I think is the sweet spot in the 4Runner lineup. I expect to drive this thing for the next 10 - 20 years. Can't beat their reliability.
Definitely I just bought a 2022 TRD had a 4runner from 2001 to 2012 and it was still running when I sold it with no mechanical issues other than regular maintenance highly reliable great SUV will have this one even longer great car love it.
no idea why theres sooo many haters in these comments. the 4runner is easily one of the best off-roading SUVs you can buy right now.
you buy other SUVs at markup and after 3 years you'd be lucky to get half of the original MSRP for it. with a 4runner, you buy it at 55k and 3 years later its still within 20k of msrp, even after taking it off-road and beating the piss out of it, because the thing doesn't break.
what a lot of people arent grasping here is the reliability, modularity, and versatility of these vehicles. there's not much else like it on the market right now. toyota's philosophy with the 4runner is if it ain't broke don't fix it, and it's obviously paying off because the 4runner sold like hot-cakes in 2021, at 144k units sold, most successful year for the car yet.
I bought a 22 4Runner TRD Off Road premium back in February and I am absolutely in love! Would recommend to anyone who is thinking about buying one!
I’m thinking about buying one
Bought mine way back in November, I've been in love with it ever since! I get compliments on the color all the time! The exhaust sounds pretty burly too, though I'd like something throatier at idle. 4Runner fam for life!
What colour did you get? I got mine in Nov also in Lunar Rock!
@@AthwalJag Lime Rush!
@@kyukyoku_beautiful truck, My absolute dream. I bet You enjoy it the same as the 1st day u got it
Love you Topher you're the reason why I started my TH-cam channel 🔥
I think people just appreciate an old school honest to goodness simple truck. Most new vehicles r so disposable these days and this is before evs become mainstream. This and the gx does not feel that way.
I love mine. Wanted a GX460 Premium Plus for quite a while. Decided, if I could get a Pro for msrp and get good equity out of my trade I’d go for it. Only took 2 weeks of calling around within 100 miles of me. Constantly being told, “yes sir msrp! Next day: Actually…it’s gonna be a $5k bump bud., no thanks.” I really wanted white or magnetic grey but decided to take a leap with Lime Rush (no choice). Had seen a couple in person but not up close. Bought on a Friday delivered on Monday. After living with it since Feb. It makes me smile every time I see it. I love the attention it gets and it really goes well with the capability of the vehicle. The color is very pearlescent like and has many shades in all types of lighting.
The exhaust drone was horrendous at first, I barely notice it now. It rides identical to a current year GX with the exception the GX has amazing handling in corners with KDSS keeping body roll a minimum. Fuel economy? I don’t do much highway driving (65+ mph) the highway to my work has about 6 large hills over 10 miles. I found I’d only get about 16.5 mpg throughout the week. Driving flatter backroads at 55-60ish mph I maintain 18.5 avg mpg per tank, on 93 octane. Yes, I spend the extra $9-$10 per fill up on 93. “To each my own”, recommends 87+ “or higher” still has a 10:1 compression ratio and my 2 cents it just has way better power and slightly better mpg vs 87 regular and 89 mid grade.
I don’t find my transmission to be gear hunting that much I feel reminded of the older tcu style it just goes, upshifts when it should it’ll even downshift when I let off the throttle and are coasting downhill. It has excellent deceleration in the drivetrain, easy to go easy on brakes. If I’m not mistaking I’d almost think the tcu is semi adaptive to your driving style. 2900 miles and no complaints about lack of power or gear hunting.
Congrats on the new truck!
Also the manual shift transfer case and big HVAC controls are awesome. None of that push button junk like on a lot of vehicles.
I paid 55K for my 2022 TRD PRO and LOVE IT! The exhaust sounds great. If you want a quieter highway vehicle get a stock hybrid SUV. The exhaust noise is a non-issue as its purely driver preference. The 2022 TRD PRO has all the great features of the 4Runner. 2023 might be the last year you can grab this iconic 5th gen design/engine before they do some heavy mods in the Gen 6 models.
270 horsepower is pretty good honestly the problem is the torque at only 278, I have an 03 V8 limited and my friend is always surprised by how much torque I have compared to his moms new TRD Pro
I think the real problem is the 5 speed automatic. The torque wouldn’t feel as lacking if it had an 8 speed with closer gear ratios would do a better job staying in the power band. The Jeep Wrangler only has 260lb ft of torque but it’s 8 speed automatic improves acceleration tremendously.
The 6th generation 4Runner can't come soon enough. The new Tundra and Land Cruiser drive light years better than their previous counterparts and the interiors had a much needed update.
@no name You can't say, they've barely been out to tell. The reason Toyota is slow to innovate is because they make sure they release a reliable vehicle.
@@GXMAN16 new tundras already having problems, and the 2023 4runners will no longer be made in japan.
you're easily one of the best auto reviewers on youtube right now, but wanting a 2.3 ton SUV to run fast is simply your fault, I agree these are expensive thou.
If you're only keeping it 3-4 years it's expensive. If you're keeping it 10-15 or more years it's a good investment. It'll outlast most any SUV not made by Toyota/Lexus or Honda.
@@davidfence6939 I mean even if you keep it 3-4 years it’s worth it. Buy it for $45,000 then 3 years later can still sell it for $40k lol. I love my 4Runner
I love my 22 TRD OFF ROAD, the winter we had up here in central Canada this winter my 4runner made it enjoyable to drive in. The Off Road also has KDSS which is a huge plus for off roading and if I ever do sell I know ill make my money back on it! Can't wait for the Corolla GR review!
That’s why I ordered, Off-Road Premium with KDSS!
I love the exhaust. Sounds like a truck and not a Prius. To each their own.
Sounds like a 4 cylinder accord.
Love these things. So well built. Wish they still offered the manual like the Tacoma.
after land rover, mercedes, raptor and a wrangler 392, I finally got myself a 21 trd offroad, yes, the transmission is dated, steering wheel is heavy, but it's so damn reliable, no recall no transmission fault, no timing phaser noise no lifter problem it's so dated yet so simple, that's where the beauty shine...and it gets 340-370 miles per tank..
Where the 392 jeep at? Sold ?
@@AntilleanConfederation parked in my garage haven't moved for almost 2 month now.
Wow, I didnt know these only came equiped with a 5 speed auto!!!!......Well, that Toyota reliability cant be beat, even if the hardware dates back to my grade school days
I'd go for the SR5. I believe it is the best bang for the buck. In my opinion.
Laughed at the escape hybrid comment, I could instantly picture it.
One other nice thing about that side exit exhaust, you can drive around with the hatch window down and it won't suck the exhaust into the cabin!
I have a 2016 TRD off road, I love the dang thing, she has 226k. I wish they offered a Manuel just because who wouldn’t love that? But still the five speed is a decent transmission and hasn’t given me issues, outdated as it may be.
Holy cow! I was panicking to trade in at 135k
226k!?
Any issues that surprised you
It sucks because the Tacoma offers a manual, would’ve loved to see one on the 4Runner
@@jimmy22334 The new taco actually drives about a million times better with the manual. I wanted an auto but it was just so mushy to drive. At least the manual gave the thing a bit of life.
@@JJ-ws3zn That's nothing, I have 410,000km on my FJ cruiser which has the same motor, trans etc. Just regularly maintained, hasn't gave me a single issue, doesn't even burn a drop of oil.
@@Bigazzham thats toyota overengineering for you. quick example, toyota knows their connecting rods are strong enough at 50mm thickness so they go and make them 100mm thickness where as most companies would settle for 55 or 60mm. now apply that concept across all their manufactured parts and thats why they last so long
I “had”a 20 Trd pro 4Runner and Still have a 16 trail edition w/kdss. I recently (3 weeks ago) purchased a 23 trd off road premium without kdss. This is my 6th 4Runner. All have been stellar !!!
I drive ALOT so I rotate every 2-3 years. I liked the pro version BUT I found the roof rack noise and droning exhaust to be not to my liking. Since I was going to change tires and suspension anyway that’s why I went back to the trd orp. I don’t really consider this an suv (per todays standards) this is a truck fully boxed frame vehicle.
I work at a dealer in Ann Arbor- and yes! These cars do NOT stay, we have a lot of certified units. But this car needs a new refresh for sure.
My wife's Tacoma milage on her 06 SR5 is 232 thousand miles. Reliable always wins
What’s interesting is that the 4 L V6 puts out more horsepower and torque than the V8 of the last generation
I can't believe Toyota hasn't found a way to drop the A760E into the 4runner yet, it is structurally the same transmission with just one more clutch pack and one more overdrive. We would really appreciate that extra overdrive and swap out the old 3.73 for a 4.30 final drive. That would do wonders for the 4runner.
Agree with you on the torque of the v8, it’s so much better
Hell yea, thats why a GX460 is the better choice
@@GXMAN16 Yup, I’ve got a 4th gen 4Runner v8
Let me shine some light on your review. The shocks in the off road package does not have the fox shocks and under breaking will nose dive a bit. It's soft but not as trail friendly. You can swap out the exhaust for a quiet one. For ne its not a game changer. I road in the trd pro 1 week ago in the 2023 model. It was a quieter ride. So Toyota did something. I'm an ex-suoerbike racer. For me I like the growling of an exhaust.
I get so confused by reviews of this vehicle. Everyone who tests them says they’re comfortable, smooth on the highway, have plenty of power, not too much cabin noise, great visibility etc BUT they’re not recommended for daily driving like what? Lol what am I missing?
You want a truck?
TOYOTA all day everyday!!!
I live in Miami and never even think about off-roading. I would buy a Limited RWD and drive it for 8+ years.
Part of me loves that they keep this generation around so long to keep it relatively affordable, but it could really use an update at this point. The power train is woefully underpowered and the vehicle is not up to the task when driving on highways. At highway speeds, it has a tendency to get pushed around by the wind a lot and you won’t be passing very often.
You think the 4Runners are affordable? Haha
FoTo Realistic When you compare them to other SUVs for sale on the market, yes, they are more affordable. For example, a new 4Runner starts at 37,605 whereas a new Tahoe starts at $50,500. So yes, they are affordable compared to the competition.
@@SmallBrickWall on what planet has anyone compared a 4Runner to a Tahoe lmao
@@SmallBrickWall a Tahoe is a full sized 3 row SUV. A 4Runner is a 2 row mid size. They’re not even competitors.
@@SmallBrickWall A 4Runner TRD Pro is 53K MSRP, makes Tahoe look like a bargain. You can't get a 4x4 4Runner for under 40K, not without some OFF-Road systems for under 45K. What makes 4Runners expensive is how basic and cheap the interiors are compared to modern vehicles. A german suv would seem like a spaceship compared to a 4runner. So paying 60K for super fake leather, cheap plastic and no luxury features is a lot. Hell a GX460 is miles ahead in terms of luxury on the same platform.
And i'm not even talking about the insane marks up on new or used 4Runners, good luck finding a TRD 4Runner for under 50k right now.
I love the 4Runner. My car is a 2007 4Runner sport and I love it. I was looking to buy a 2022 but the interior is just too outdated for me. I want them to keep everything as is on the outside and in the engine bay. Just spice up the interior
The drone is annoying, but can be fixed. I know for the price you shouldn't have to fix anything, but the modding community is huge for 4Runners. Part of what's made me debate a TRD overhaul of a Limited.
Best vehicle you can have
The dedicated digital clock that’s been there in Toyotas since the beginning of time is something I miss in some of their other models. I would pay for that digital clock… simple and effective. Especially if they put it back in the teal/green VFD display. My 1990 pickup’s clock is still going strong and bright.
We have a '99 4Runner and always appreciated the dedicated clock as so many other vehicles integrate it into the radio, and sometimes it's hard to see. I was afraid the new ones would do away with the clock, or put it in a place where the ambient light washes it out. I was pleasantly surprised to see that Toyota made it BIGGER, brighter, and gave it a little sun shade overhang so it's readable under almost every condition.
@@RobS123 yeah, many of their models no longer have a dedicated clock. I love the classic VFD clock (dark background with numbers that light up) vs. the LCD style. It’s easy to read at a glance.
Got a 2023 Solar Octane 4 Runner TRD Pro and I love it. What a Great SUV. Not concerned with the speed of the motor. It’s a solid truck with Toyota reliability that’s still made in Japan.
I love your 2006 4Runner SRS V8 because it lasts Forever
Doesn't bother me, I'm not speeding anywhere... it feels just fine.
In reality, you can’t get a lot of vehicles for $55k, MSRP’s are inflated, dealer fees are inflated, market adjustments, even used crap, especially trucks of any variety are more expensive then that. If you need to buy something in this market it’s still a good deal. I built a bronco on Fords website, checked inventory, called the dealer as inventory was there, the price went up 5k for dealer fees, 61k with a take it or leave it mentality from the dealer, it will be sold to so schmuck regardless.
at 4:15 you said the engine is "...dated, not a ton of power, not a ton of torque..." I looked up the biggest 4Runner competitors (Jeep Wrangler v6, Nissan Pathfinder, Honda Passport, and Kia Telluride). All of them had ~10-20 more HP than the 4Runner, but the 4Runner has ~10-20 more torque than any of these (I know you can get a Wrangler 392 or hybrid, but comparing to the main v6 that almost everyone gets). It's definitely an old engine, but maybe more so the transmission than the HP (def not the torque vs competitors)?
I personally would pick this over its competitors like the bronco or the jeeps!
I personally wouldn't take any of these competitors even the 4runner 😂 because I have what is better 😂
I thought these were cool and reliable, but surprised that the interior still looks like it’s in the 2000s
They make a TRD cold air intake that will give you better gas mileage and more torque. My 06 Tacoma JUMPS OFF THE LINE. Gets 5 more miles to the gallon too.
5 mpg with a cold air intake ? Having some trouble believing that one.
It's a good looking truck, and reliable as hell. But numbers don't always tell everything. Drove it a month ago and it lacked engine strength, then drove a V6 Sienna and that thing rocked me forward... Toyota makes good engines..
Agreed with sienna
We used to have a sienna as a work van and we used to call it the “Star Tours” van it was literally fast as hell
Wow, really great review. Very detailed. Thanks
Huge difference in opinions from his 2019 TRD Pro review
I noticed that too. Opinions change over time. The thing with power is funny though. In 2019 it was plenty. In 2022 it’s adequate. Numbers keep going up and up. I’ve driven some fast cars. I own a 4Runner. It rarely feels lacking in power to me. Idk to each his own.
Only thing I hate is how toyota has the dual climate only on pro and limited trims.
toyota racing means its faster than other model like limited?
Great review. Love my 2017 TRD 4Runner. The only thing that’s 2022 is the price! The rest is what they’ve been doing since 2013.
I have a 2022 TRD Pro and I'm not gonna lie, the tech are pretty nice. 360 cameras, blind spot monitor, adaptive cruise, etc. I wouldn't have bought the 4Runner if they had not added the new technology.
@@whocaresjustdoit Yea blind spot monitoring is a first for 2022 is kind of ridiculous, should have been implemented years ago. Still really shitty back up camera quality for a 60K suv. No folding mirrors, no option for a 3 zone climate control. I have a 2016 GX that has all of these features and tech, even more so than a 22 4Runner. Not hating but 4Runners are a little too basic and outdated for the price tag. My gf has a 22 Pro so I know the vehicle.
@@GXMAN16 lol I agree with all the points above. I bought the vehicle because of its uniqueness and I change vehicles quite often, and therefore wanted something that will hold its value when the time comes. I traded in a Ford Raptor for this 4Runner TRD Pro and so far I'm really enjoying it.
@@whocaresjustdoit That's interesting, I used to have a TRD Pro Tacoma that I traded in for a Raptor, and never looked back. It's was big, but the power just felt amazing after the Taco.
And again I wasn't hating against a 4Runner, many people choose 4Runners over GX460s because of how they look. I do love the way it looks, the hood scoop and different sitting position. My GX can follow any trail behind my gfs PRO but it looks like a bland soccer mom suv lol. And the 4runners keeping their value insanely is shy I bought the gx, gx loose their value a lot more. So when I saw a 2016 4Runner Off Road and a 2016 GX with similar miles and same price for 34K, it was a no briandr I got the GX which luckily was fully loaded luxury trim, with tech and features that even 2022 Pros don't have.
I do afraid the value will drop once the new powertrain comes out for 2023. For 2022 it's the last year for GX V8, which is one of two of last V8s officially on sale by Toyota, other being the 5.0 V8 in the Lexus 500 series sport sedans/coupes.
@@GXMAN16 Lol that's exactly why I didn't go with any of the Lexus vehicles. I just can't get over the soccer mom look. The Raptor was amazing but I was moving to a big city and just couldn't live with a vehicle that size. The 4Runner is a much more reasonable choice. I do miss the power from the Raptor for sure but the Pedal Commander kind of solves that problem in the 4Runner.
I actually take the opposite point of view of what you said. I think a lot of ppl buy the 4Runner because of its ancient but reliable drivetrain. In my opinion, until the supposedly new turbo 4 cylinder engine & transmission combo can prove its reliability, this 5th gen 4Runner will still hold its value pretty well. Ultimately who cares lol. I didn't buy this vehicle to let it sit in the garage to sell later. I bought it to drive and I'm gonna drive the crap out of it 😁
Very reliable indeed, I’m looking to get a 4Runner but, in the limited trim
For 2024 I want same 4R but with 6 or 8 speed, a little bit more power and economy, better cameras with identical button layout. I fear they will put big screen and remove buttons, knobs, and 4H 4L selector lever. A fully functional radar cruise would be great, what's the point if I have to be on watch for speed to drop below 25 mph and stop manually. I drove my friends Camry and it is so stressful drive knowing that I may have to suddenly take control of braking below 25.
Jeep with the Pentastar town and country engine , or a Toyota 4.0? I’ll pay the Toyota premium.
Love the Speedmaster Professional... hesalite version with the non-polished mid links, right??? also, great review.
People complain that they are old but if I was Toyota and continued to sell as many 4Runners as they do why the hell would you change perfection? There is not a single thing wrong with these vehicles and at lease with base model 4Runners you still get most of the gadgets related to technology…unlike ford where your screen is still a iPhone 5.
If I was Toyota, I wouldn't redesign this. Record sales numbers speak for themselves
It'll sell like hotcakes with the new engine as well. Most people would trade their old ones in for that new powertrain.
Chiming on the gear hunting...my 18 wants to live in 4th gear on the highway at like 3.2k rpm. I couldn't imagine it with that exhaust
Just realized the trd pro entertainment/AC unit is different compared to the off roads which has the three knobs vs the two and digital temps
The more I see it the more I like it
So much off road tech, just as he opens the manual lift gate.
I just purchased a 2022 4 runner with 17k miles on it. Looking for recommendations on what to use to or where to take to get undercoating to prevent rust. I live in PA. TY!
Bummer...still too cheap to add a CD player!
I do miss the grab handles in the 4th gens on all four sides of the vehicle. Only the shotgun seat gets a handle to assist in getting in for the 5th gens now.
How many gallons the tank takes?
I miss the V8 4Runner
8:57 you were speeding 🤦♂️
Great vid as always! I want a 4runner but I don't think the TRD pro is worth the price tag.
Also what watch are you wearing? Looks clean.
Nevermind you have the new speedmaster!
Yep speedy
55k for same thing ?? Why ?
What about towing
God... all I’m asking for is for Toyota to make these in a Manual so I don’t have to pick between a Jeep or a Bronco
That Speedy. 😍
With these fox shocks does it wonder or float on the road ?
You gotta be joking me with this color. Lol
No joke. It exists. I have one. It's awesome. Put your jock away.
Toyota has a 3.5L v6 making over 300 HP but the 4L only making 270?
If you get one at 100 mikes is there a good chance it still runs great? I never buy cars high mileage but I never bought a large car
Yes 100 K is nothing for these they can easy go 3 to 400 K miles with good maintenance good luck
"This one is $55,000" -- before the dealer "bend over and grab your ankles" mark up. You can't get one for less than 65k in my area.
That’s crazy! They are nice but worth $45k max.
@@StubProductions I have a '15 TRD Pro -- first year Toyota offered the 4Runner in that trim level. I paid 46k and change out the door back then. I think 50k is reasonable for one in it's current configuration, anything more is just too much.
@no name As much as I like the 4Runner it's just not worth that price.
I sell Toyotas and i drive a 2020 TRD ORP and I would never buy a TRD PRO!!.
Huge dealer mark up($10k-40k)for what a Fox lift, wonky roof basket and some special color.
I bought a Trd off road premium for thousands of dollars less then msrp, no mark up. Then I added the lift(Bilstein)I wanted, a real roof basket, change valances, pro grill and pro rims and JL Audio stereo system, Gobi ladder, custom suede interior, black headliner, tint and raptor lights and I'm still thousands of dollars cheaper out the door then a Pro without the dealer mark up.
if it's the color you want just wait a model year!
Dealerships are ruining the value of PRO 4runners
Was it hard to find someone to update your sound system. I live in Grand Rapids and know one wants to touch it. I have a 2022 Toyota 4runner TRD off road premium.
@@michaellowery4001
I went to CarToys here in Lone Tree, CO.
Picked out what I wanted, scheduled install, dropped it off in the morning picked it up after work, done.
Even tipped the guys $100 cause he installed it flawless and sounds absolutely amazing.
I think these still sell well because of their reliability, and its like an older suv, and seems less complex than the shitboxes automakers spit out these days. Good old fashion v6 auto body on frame SUV. And it has a normal size infotainment screen, not an 80 inch TV. Its just such a good vehicle
They sell well because their fashionable. My neighbor bought one (TRD Pro), is kept in the garage all day, never sees any offroad. 4Runners have always been like this.
@@John-ki7zn Obviously you’re too blind to see the thousands of videos of those that take it on off road adventures. You’re confusing yourself with LAND ROVER that you rarely see. 😜😂
I actually think this things biggest competition is the tacoma, tundra and mabe the seq. bronco/wrangler buyers won't be interested. And a defender buyer would look at a heinous limited and laugh at the driving dynamics and mitsubishi like interior. I didnt realize how much freakin weight the 4runner gained (600+lbs) when the 5th gen was introduced made the engine update of the archaic drivetrain.
Natural competition is the Bronco, the Wrangler and maybe some small Land Rover. The biggest edge the 4Runner has is that it will run forever, you can comfortably drive it past the warranty period into some 6 digits. But if you only own one for 3-4 years or less, then it doesn't matter, buy whatever it is that you fance, all body on frame and capable off roaders with some gimmicky bullshit attached.
55 thousand for this thing is bananas when you can get the Everglades Bronco for less.
Toyota reliability will always sell though.
I’d rather hire a rickshaw operator than buy a Ford.
Those exhaust tips you can turn down and will be quiet.
now that you did the 4Runner again, you should do the sequoia again now!
I do hate the droning of the TRD exhaust. I may change it out later this year. I average about 15 mpg before my K&N drop in filter, I get 16 mpg now living in the southeast.
We need manual transmission ‼️
In desparate need of update
Hi, I want to turn my 4 runner and I want apple car play what can I do?
I freaking lost it at seeing the color. LOL!!!!!😁
I think you should review my built 18 off road. 15mpg!
How does the blind spot monitoring system work on the 22 4runner?
0:02
The 4Runner needs a full redesign
Wouldn’t it make more sense if the 4Runner had a V8 option? What about the twin turbo that’s found in the tundra?
The TTV6 is coming to the 4Runner and GX460 for 2023 model. Probably not the most powerful one but the lesser hp version of it.
I would def get a car in this green.
Color reminds me of the Cayman R's Peridot Green
9:37 Throttle
The best SUV
Good Review..... i have one Red TRD Offroad Platinum 2022. these are the cons :
16 MPG .
Noise during drive on Highways.
Need a cable USB for connect the Android Auto and iPhone.
USB Connector located near the knee.
Min Low cruise system 28 Milles.
Abrupt Disconnect Cruiser System under 28 miles
Useless Wifi in Audio System with AT&T without good apps and improvementas.
Strange behavior on sudden braking, no stability.
Useless Eco Graphics in system audio. Very large scale for low fuel efficiency.
Useless Eco Graphcs in dashboard Control.
It doesn't have a glasses holder.
does not have remote start.
TOYOTA should provide the best USB cable to ensure phone connectivity