900+HP 12v VR6 Engine Build pt.1
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2024
- FETA FAMMMMMM!!!
Kicking off Stav's new motor build for his B5 project car. This is part 1 of many videos to come as we progress through his build to his eventual first drive and dyno.
As always tell us your thoughts in the comments below, thank you for watching.
-MMS
We Just want to say Thank you to everyone that reached out by commenting here, emails and IG messages.
We’re not pro’s and it’s a learning process everyday as we progress.
So again, we appreciate everyone’s input and tips, keep them coming as we continue to post more and more videos. It’s appreciated more than you know. 🙏🙏
Sincerely,
Your favorite Malakas ❤️
Looking forward to see the epic 12v and 24v HP battle 🙏
Hey boss can you write out the full parts list boss I've reached out to usp I'm trying to a monster for my b7s4
Shoutout all the fron south africa and with love please guys provide us with more videos cause we is really loving them
Malaka MotorSports
Im in the learning process. Too my second VRT building.. utilizing VEMS from lugtronic. Like your build man you guys are doing a great job.. ive been vr6 for about 20 years now.. great motor. Wanted to try a different project.. transfering motor to A4. Alaways wanted to . But I heard you get alit of rear end problem?
Done a few of these. Don't oil under the bearing only the surface that touches a moving part. It even says this in the Bentley.
Hi guys i don't think you should have put assembly lube under the main bearings there's a good chance they will spin plus it will tighten the clearance between the bearing and the crank itself.
They're not going to spin. They're not round
@@Pppppppppppppppppppppppppppp66 Okey well it has happen for other People when the bearing tolerance gets to tight and heats starts building up and the to "stop bumps" on the bearings break. And yes a crank shaft bearing round
Glad i'm not the only one that saw this.
Surfaces that aren't meant to spin should not be lubed. Other than that, look forward to the rest of the build. My 12v had oil pressure issues to come to find I had bad bearings. So rebuilding my engine too
Nice job
Never lube the back side of the bearings it Greatly increases risk of spinning a bearing. Always apply bearings to a clean dry surface.
Good to see you guys back ! Stav don't forget to plastie gauge your bearing clearances on the main caps and rod caps to avoid lock ups. Also I believe assembly lube under bearings is not recommended. I built my forged Audi 1.8t this way pushing 30 psi ,E85, with a GT35r turbo, no problems at all . Don't forget to file ring gaps for high boost (bigger gap) Keep up the good content guys your doing well 👍
I respect you guys for not claiming to know everything and being open to suggestions
keon26able Thank you, we appreciate everyone’s input, and we’re learning everyday we wrench. We are only professional Malakas, lol 😂
WOW ! I learned something new today ! After seeing around 300 1000hp plus motors being put together by the very best Marine, Drag, F1, Rally, and Road Race engine builders in the business, they all forgot to lube under the Main Bearings ! I now know something new ! Oye Vey !
Good Luck with that !
I agree with others, only lube the bearing to crank face...please take the crank out and clean the bearings and case with ATF, fit dry then only lube this face. Would leave the head gasket dry as well.
Really Looking forward to this build and dyno time, the the grudge races!
Stop lubing the backs of your bearings!!! No wonder your last motor locked up!!!
Exactly. I watched it 5-10 times to ensure my vision is correct. Omg
It even says not to in the Bentley
Shade tree “fill in the name Motorsports” now on TH-cam. 🤦♂️
thank you jesus i'm not the only one who saw that. friction bearings are a crush fit that little tab can't keep the bearing from spinning in the block it's the pressure of clamping the main caps on that holds them in place and when you put a thick assembly lube between the block and bearing it distorts the bearing locking up the engine and in your case you got lucky and just got hot spots but it can easily smoke a crank.
Spotted that too....had to double check. Never lube the back oc yout crank bearings...EVER. They will just spin
Patiently waiting for Part 2
Hey guys don't think you should put any lube beneath the main crank bearing it should be dry
Check out this video from Real street performance about lubing the back of a bearing
th-cam.com/video/yAt-fkTntjE/w-d-xo.html
underrated.
Cars Overdose 🙏🙏
Sitting alone in my car eating mall chinese food and watching the beginning of this engine build 👍
Uhm, isn't oil under the crank mainbearings a big NO NO? 🤔 Bearing spinn and the faulty bearing clearance will occur in my experience. 😕
Absolutely a bad idea to have grease under the bearings.
Check out this video from Real street performance about lubing the back of a bearing
th-cam.com/video/yAt-fkTntjE/w-d-xo.html
Should get yourselves a nice ultrasonic cleaning tank, makes everything sparkle and super clean.
Like the video, but yeah, don't lube the back side of the bearings guys. That lifts the bearing up allowing greater chance for the bearing to spin.
I'm going to build another VR6 for a beetle soon.
12v or 24v... it's ALL good! Great to see this build progressing! Cannot wait for first drive and dyno! Lots of feta, spanakopita, ouzo and metaxa will be consumed watching your superb videos! YASOU from Cleveland!
Glad to see a decent 12v build video ! I can’t wait to see the progress! Looking good guys I dig the gold block
I just showed this to my engines class on what NOT TO FUCKING DO.
I cant wait to finish my 12v! Hoping to make 700hp and throw it in my s14!
that would be an interesting project for shure!
Stav is relentless!!!! haaa always good content. good ish glad to see yall back.
Very nice you guys just keep getting better and better!!
As a lot of people have already mentioned do not lube under the main bearing shells it stops them seating properly which changes the bearing clearances onto the crank and aids them coming loose and spinning
Hey welcome back guys, keep up the good work.
hola Malaka, finally new content , my opinion is that this is a very good content and that these more should have a little spicy pics, how do you two do it, thank you guys , you have made my day , greetings from Croatia
Great job kathiki’s!
love seeing these updates! 😎
Great content as always George and Stav! As others have said, no lube on the backs of the bearings. Other than that, I love your videos and IG posts. Always brightens my day!
Thanks for the vids man. Motivates me to do something with my VR
Very excited for this!
Killing his buzz with those shades comments hahaha
Hatah’ Blockas’, right? Haha, came across this, wicked helpful fellas. I can’t find enough vr engine build vids.
Did I just see you lube up the main journals before the bearings were put in?
It's actually better to use reverse osmosis water or filtered rain water. Distilled water has 0 minerals or metals in it at all, sounds good but it means the water will actually leech minerals and metal from the cooling system.
Nothing really wrong with distilled, still better than tap water.
TheCrazySquirell appreciate the tip and info 🙏🙏
Awesome! Good Luck!
what's the name of the color from the engine block ?! super interesting approach ... awesome color :D:D
Keep up the vids guys!🤘
You guys are the best ! You gave me alot of confidence to start my channel on my mk2 jetta vr6 !
Nice build awesome
why do you lube the main caps before the main bearings go in? is that not a cause of spinning bearings? Or does that not apply here because you have the indent in the mains that hold them in place?
Lube lube and lube. Lol
Glad to see the 12v getting built.
You should use atf to wipe everything down. At least the bores
Jon Fanning Yep ATF is good for cleaning and removing water etc
Oh the anticipation is killing me
As a part greek I can't look at that shirt with a straight face. Bloody malaka hahahhahaha. Absolute belter
Bro I subbed just for that hulk hogan reference 🤣
I’m thinking of doing the same for my 12v AFP VR6 !
Oiling the back of the bearing shells is a no no.
If you want to have good lubrication on first start up leave the spark plugs out and turn the motor over until the oil light goes out and stays out.
Great work, thank you, will be doing 83mm pistons. Have you put together one 2.8 12v with 83mm or know of someone who did? Was that a happy ending? Thanks,
What wiring harness do you guys use and ecu?
I also learned to never touch the bearings or journals on crank shaft with your bare fingers always use gloves guys 👍🏻
Great video guys👍🏼
Just came down to the comments and thankfully the early birds spotted it too.
Nice shades tool
seen you guys at 034s last ECP Euro event. I love how your using these 2.8s transverse. I would love one of your gold blocked motors
Very good review
awesome guys, build a drop in aftermarket tank assembly
Why you put the green wrap and let it over night? Trying to learn this high power tuning stuff...
que hermoso se ve ese motor, muchas felicitaciones. perdon por no escribir en ingles
No lube on backside of bearings...just in case you didn't know. ;) LOL, but seriously! And I hope you guys are checking bearing clearances...don't forget to check thrust clearance too. Dial indicator, mics and bore gauges are must haves IMO...some get by with Plastigauge.
Hey can I have a full part list you used ?
The guy with the j’s always talking shit with his buddy 😂😂😂 that’s dope
Just a heads up if no one else has said! you have to get the mains align honed when using arp main bolts as the added torque makes them go out of round!
60 ft.lbs was the finial step. I dont believe thats added Torque
@@jrrockett after a small search, vr6 12v main bearings are torqued to 22-30ft.lbs then a 90 degree turn. I would say doing a stepped torque is different and probably going to end up higher than stock torque settings. they arnt checking the clearance so it doesnt really matter.
@@bazzaf246 30 plus 90 dagree turn meh that's probably more then 60ft.lbs due to them possibly being torque to yield. The arp bolts aren't designed to stretch. When I installed the their Head bolts it's 3 steps to 80ft.lbs. Set it and forget it. Haven't had any issues after 4 years now and about 72k miles
I'm interested in getting an Audi TT VR6 or a VW R32 and having the engine fully built with a turbo putting down around 550 whp. Basically a budget super car.
What did you get in the end. I bought a mk5 r32 last week :) love it
@@512460 nothing for now. Got some time before I buy anything. At least a year, life is in the way.
@@mr.adventure559 we all know that one too well
Are rhe pistons forged? What engine code is it? Do you think the parts will fit in VW Passat b3 2.8 vr6?
You lubed the back of the bearings? Bad move. That will decrease clearance, plus allowing the bearing to spin easier.
Great video, very informative, 🤝
Love the vw tatt go the vag cars the leaders and the best in the world !!!
I'm usually wrong, but this time I'm right... Great video guys. Great proyect, coud you give us some cost numbers of boosting a stock block vs a build one. Cheers!
Goals!
Nice content guys,just a tough what is your idea for oil cooling and why not going to electric water pump and may be preoiling sister so Stav won't have to take his shades of at his high boost
I was trying to reach first.....nice built
Unlikely your new connecting rods weigh the same as your old ones, your rottating assembly balance will be off, possibly by a lot. Did you even balance your rotating assembly on the first build? Great your sharing stuff, and your learning, but an engine assembly manual will prevent a lot of mistakes, like the ones already mentioned in the comments.
Did the pistons/new rods and crank get balanced as a new set?
Did you line hone the galley with the arp main studs though?
What’s with the 12v & 24v back and forth? New to the VR6 stuff so be nice please.
Jordan McHattie just a little sibling rivalry.
Malaka MotorSports thanks for replying guys, been binge watching videos since finding your channel!
Is there any performance differences between the two or is it just personal preference which one you run?
@@jordanmchattie9773 stock for stock 24v makes more than 12v, most say 12v sounds better, harder to get turbo parts for 24v than the 12v, not really much other than accessibility, parts more expensive for the 24v... 12v uses coil pack as opposed to the individual coils on the 24v. Nothin much truthfully. 24v come with 6speed, my swapped 24v uses a 12v 5speed, the heads are different as well, I can't find any 24v aftermarket headers but plenty for 12v.
Confused as to why you layed down assembly lube on the main journals prior to installing the main bearings...
NEVER LUBE THE BACK SIDE OF THE BEARINGS AGAIN!!! FETA FAM ADVICE
My dream motor.... :D nice job.
Hello. Why is this your dream motor?
I have a 96 cabrio, I researched how to gain hp but there is nothing potential which was dissapointing to me.
hi your engine looks real fire , my question is ,what much different vr6 12v or vr6 24v????????????
One has 12 valves and the other has 24 valves
Nice content. How much $ in parts you have on that table boys?
Were you located?
I have an mk4 r32 engine i want rebuild and would like to know if can help with any info on doing it.
If you please can you send me the list of the parts and how much is the cost is impresin job thanks
salut les gars , quelle genre de boite vous utilisez pour un montage pareil ? merci ;)
Just found this amazing channel, Half the people here don’t know what malaka means lmao
Your name in Greece is product of misunderstanding !!!! Much love from Greece
12 valve all the way
Hi Stav, what psi boost were you running on the stock bottom end ? What HP, torque did it make? Regards Mark
What are you going to run for EMS? I have an MK3 VR6T on DTA and looking for an update. Your build looks great.
Love the channel . Homies Cars are nasty .
Just wanted to know what year and model cars you guys got your motor from??
Looking to do the swap.
Hello friends. What is the head studs brand? Thanks.
What size crank bearings did you go with?
can you put a link to the head bolts or tell the correct name? looking to buy a pair for my vr6 too
Can this work for automatic too or no? I’m looking for other options besides a new turbo
Whats your opinion of the Atlas VR6 motor? Will these motors handle boost in stock form well at all? Great build!
Do y'all have extra manifolds or other swap parts? I would be happy to buy some I'm starting a a4 b6 with a vr6 12v and and starting the part hunt. @Malaka MotorSports
Im in buisness to build my audi a8l d2 w12 and downgrade it to VR6T and to hit optimal power with that setup. Im watching you carefully :)
Ask am working right now how much all that cost pleas if y dont mine ...was going to start building a 12v the best engine
New guy question, would a vr6 build fit into a 2014 gli, wit a stock dsg
Can the VR6 engine and trans fit in a 01 bettle?
why the negativity on the better 24v engine? it's updated, twice the valves, what's to hate?
Sir David Robinson Sibling Rivalry at its best. 🤣
@@MalakaMotorSports is it because of the people that got the 12v engine are salty about the new one or?
I guess there's probably pros and cons to both i'm not aware of all of them, aside the obvious one with double the valves.
Where did you buy those bolts