Pillars of Eternity 2 Deadfire: Multiclassing Guide (2019)
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- Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Guide to Multiclassing. .
In this video we'll cover all of the new subclasses added during Update 4.0.0 and try to go through good Multiclassing ideas with these new subclasses and breakdown exactly what the pros and cons are.
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I’ve watched every Fextralife deadfire video so many times. They are simply the best. I know the game is long past relevance for the algorithm, but I would LOVE some “The Ultimate” guides or PotD videos. Either way, love these!
Barbarian: 0:30
Chanter: 2:54
Chiper: 4:39
Druid: 6:36
Fighter: 7:50
Monk: 11:45
Paladin: 14:16
Priest: 15:36
Ranger: 16:12
Rogue: 18:16
Wizard: 20:16
God send
Thank you so much! 🙏
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Dude i have 100 hours in and havent made it passed act 1 im an altoholic help me. Your vids are amazing and make me want to make alts
As a fellow altoholic you dont need to start again, recruit mercenaries.You can build them from the ground up almost like creating a new character but better!
@@chupko9839 I have recently thought of that. Worried I may miss some decent npc talk but I think im still going to do it. Thanks!
I fee like I am way behind too(not really behind, just taking my sweet ass time) I am like 45 hours in and barely touched the main story haha. Just now found my first Adra Pillar
I've spent about 12 hours over the last few days picking what class do I want to play...I've still not made it out of the first island. I love such in-depth and flexible character creation systems. But I also hate them. Because instead of playing the game I play the damn character creator. I'm that kind of person who makes a character and literally 5 minutes later decides I want something else. Over. And over.
i feel your pain brother i just cant get enough characters created there is always a better one xD
I'd love to see the build you discussed at the end, with Tactician and Blood Mage.
Might do that :)
Very helpful video. I'm not the type to do more than 1 or 2 playthroughs, so being presented with the choice of single or multiclass characters, I immediately felt that "uh oh... what if i make a weak multi character?" anxiety. Starting over would not be something I'd easily resort to. This video put my mind at ease. I'm now confident that my rogue/paladin hybrid will work out.
Thanks.
Holy slayer is a very powerful combo. How'd it work out for you?
An additional comment about wizards, I still found that multi-classing evoker, and fury is probably the best for sustained aoe damage/control. By utilizing both relentless storm, and ningauth's shadowflame, your enemies will be stuck in a stun paralysis loop. The only thing is you'll be lacking in boss killing potential, but those are few and far between.
Blood mage/psion is a lot of fun. Probably not the best for a solo run, given how squishy both classes are and its tendency to hurt itself, but a character on the backline that just never stops casting is a VERY potent member of the party.
Nice video. Been thinking of starting the game anew after my current Divinity Original Sin run, and since they updated PotD difficulty and released DLC it might be time. Still going to go with my rogue (standard class) and Darcozzi Paladini multiclass I think
Blood Mage is probably the strongest spec in the game. I've found a lot of success pairing it with bleak walker on a human for an offtank build, greatsword (for the weapon art), heavy armor, 16 con beefy boi. Human racial is 15% damage and 7 acc when bloodied, once per encounter. Paladin has the Retribution passive that generates a charge on every Blood Sacrifice use. Buff up for melee, blood sac your spell slots back to drop down to 50% health to proc the human racial and Retribution, Sworn Enemy a target, and swing in with a Black Flames at a +70% (30% on greatsword, 25% on Retribution, 15% from human) base damage buff with +32% lash, with a 15% post damage calculation multiplier. This is all before gear.
Run bloodmage into melee, buff in melee, stack retribution and proc human racial, Sworn Enemy a target, turn on greatsword weapon art, flames of devotion, turn off greatsword art.
Between the melee rotation, you can heal back up with lay on hands and spam spells. Necrotic Lance might not be the best spell in other wizard builds, but in a bloodmage build, it's incredible, two Lances will put down most enemies weak to fort. Corrosive Siphon is also a very solid spell and naturally fixes your sustain.
I innitially thought the Steel Garote+Bloodmage would be good, and it does have good sustain, but I don't find the healing to be quite reliable enough to justify losing the 12% lash, while we have so much bonus base damage to multiply with it. Garrote is a very, very good ability, especially in that it comes at level 1, and the healing is solid, but I can't call Steel Garrote the default paladin class. I have to give that to Kind Wayfarer. Every time the KW procs Flames, they will heal their party for 3-4 times the amount a Steel Garrote would lifesteal for on any given hit, and that value potentially doubles on a dual wield character. Garrote and the lifesteal takes deliberation to use, and flames of devotion spam doesn't.
Do you have a Imgur of ur skill tree?
Thats why Psyblade is so good
Do more unique/specific multi-class build videos please? :)
Fury shaper is great for setting up firing lines along with the chanters knocked her arrow with speed. Especially if everyone is multiclassing as various spell casters. You'll breeze through the whole game no problem, because the raw damage taken from totem loss is a drop in the bucket, and berserkers don't really have any other support abilities to speak off for high difficulties.
great video, absolutely love all the content you do!
I was wondering what difficulty you would recommend for a playthrough with a full story companion party. I played the game a little around release, but decided to wait until all the dlcs were released. From what I remember, the stat distribution for most story companions was weird/unoptimized. Maybe you could even do a full video on story companion builds, I bet a lot of people would love a video like that.
PotD is absolutely viable with story companions.
Great summary of the latest changes! A++
I was thinking of a Mystic (Priest / Cipher) build, using the new Psion subclass for the Cipher. Any suggestions on the build? Subclass for the Priest? Equipment/Abilities that I should focus on acquiring quickly?
Thanks!!
Pick the subclass that has the closest focus to what you'd like to do in combat as a Priest. Heal? DPS? Buff?
Try a bloodmge/monk use sacrifice for free wounds and iron wheel (iirc) for healing etc. I have yet to make one but forums tells me it’s good.
Went with a generic Scout (Ranger+Rogue) for my first playthtough.
I strangely went for a Rogue/Priest/Dual-wield class. It’s been...well, interesting...
I just recently got the game and I really want to play a Chanter Ranger multiclass any tips would be very helpful
Random shit I wanna do:
Blood mage paladin ( for equal spend health gain health)
Priest of woedica wizard ( for summon fist and nassanassins cobra strike, take unarmed mastery for knock off magic monk)
Some kind of fury shaper druid, wizard, or chanter for hella summons.
Psion ranger/tactician for the sniping
Forbidden fist rogue or fighter for obv reasons
Garrote Monk just to choke people and obv flames of devotion is good.
Just naming a few off the top of my head
has anyone came with a One handed martial build
im leaning to Fighter Devoted/Rogue Trickster or streetfighter you can get to above 50% crit chance and decent defenses with the trickster subclass although you will eat a lot of your guile casting unfortunely
the thing is i have no idea if Full attacks work with only one weapon so dont know if its really viable
Made a furyshaper barbarian/paladin multi-class character on my previous playthrough. Admittedly, as much as I liked the concept, I found that I rarely ended up using totems. The benefit felt way too marginal, and since I was playing in turn-based mode, you really feel the need to make each turn meaningful. My character ended up just being a barbarian with healing spells and a bunch of skills that I'd only use if I was bored during an easy fight.
Makes sense!
I know this is 3 years old but I'm just getting into the game, I'd like to try and make a trap/alchemist character do you have any suggestions?
Maybe the Debonair rogue with something? I'm not sure but would love to try something out! Puppet master video sounds cool though, something like that but with bombs and traps
A bit off topic, but: how do mixed melee/ranged dual wield loadouts work with Primary and Full Attacks? Do Primary attacks use the range-appropriate weapon, or always the one in your main hand? The Full attacks get the -35% damage penalty for dual wielding, despite only attacking with one weapon?
Primary Attacks use the main hand. I do not know about the penalty, but you could check it out by inspecting your stat numbers in game.
Hey Fex. Here is a thought Forbiden Fist+Mage Slayer. Just do it.
I've tried it but you die rather quickly due to the insane damage Forbidden Fist does to you.
Its funny you guys are so hardcore. I am not very good at doing builds and understanding all stats
but i love this game anyway because i love the world, exploration, characters, quest, lore and the story. The gameplay is well made and deep but it is a secondary thing for me since im not very good at it. Anyone else feel like that?
Thats how i used to be but now i feel the opposite. Especially in deadfire. On poe1 the combat was okay and the story was pretty good. In deadfire the combat is amazing, some of the most fun ive had with an rpg combat system. The story is still pretty good but the combat definitely carries it for me
IAmKasinova yeah agreed. If i compare poe 1 and 2 the combat is much better in 2. More clean and controlled. Even tho im bad at understanding all the stats, i just read and try to understand the descriptions of all abilities and use them when i think they seems useble. Im planning on replaying it again with all dlc. Im also planning to play tyranny again. I acctually prefere tyrannys combat more. Probably because its more simple. Both good games
@@dannjo2saglind884 poe combat is deep, im pretty bad at making builds, playing through the game on veteran difficulty rn and the early game was pretty tough. But now i have so much gear even the harder fights ive been stomping over despite half of my party members having terrible builds because i built them wrong
I used to be horrible at PoE1 and didn't get good at all, but when it comes to 2, I wasn't good at first, I learnt about multiclass system and found them fascinating. I then keep building and mixing classes, learn about each class' strength, playstyle, and gear.
I actually learnt a lot by doing it, and can go back to the first game without problems. My advice is that there's no shame using others' builds. No rush, just have fun and find out your style.
@@holytiramisu i really need to look up other builds. Ive just been doing my own snd i completely ruined some of my party members by tsking multicasing that didnt work out at all
Planning on building a shifter druid. Which multiclass would u guys recommend? I looked into paladin and Bleak Walker or Kind Wayferers looks promising.
Both of those work great, since they make use of the Dual Wield of the Spiritshifts. Anything that gives a cheap 1 resource cost attack is good. Fighter, Rogue, or even Barbarbian work if you're willing to be less powerful earlier on.
Running a shifter/beastmaster ranger, pretty fun
Hello, I started playing on the PS4 in have a talk bubble over my party members but tried everything to speak to them with no joy!
Hi, just a tip. In 4.0 War caller or Psyblade is more fun? And which subclassese? Thank you :)
I am enjoying Psyblade a lot, but I also love Warcaller. Tactician if you play Psyblade, and Devoted if War Caller. You can choose any Cipher Subclass but Psion and be fine for the Psyblade and would choose Skald for Chanter.
Tactician seems interesting to play but overall in general, not worth the trouble, even with a cipher. Depending on specific setups is also a big negative.
Blood mage with monk is fun because you can give yourself wounds
HOLY SHIT! I haven't thought about that!
if you re ranged you can get even more wounds and accuracy thanks to the "Dance of something" ability (cant remember its name) so yeah is a pretty cool combo
I love all the build guides but I've been trying to find a way to make a damage over time caster but I just can't find a class that seems to have any good options. Do you have any recommendations?
So druid for sure you could multi class with priest, they get a dot that further enhances damage over time abilities if I remember correctly and wizard gets more so your options imo are:
Druid + priest (to make the druids dots more powerful)
Or
Druid+wizard (to have more dots)
Check out Ancient Terror build. It is specifically used as DoT caster.
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Is a Human Paladin (no multiclass) with 1 handed sword and shield a valid choice for a game on POTD?
Yes
Which console command/mod do you use to change the class of your watcher? Or do you just start a newgame for each build?
Just a new game with each Build.
@@Fextralife Must be tasking as fuuuck.
The real question is how many hours does he have logged in and have you platinumed the game yet?
Can you do a necromancer build or dark knight
A dark knight? Well I think chanter + Paladin. Take beckoner on chanter and bleak walker oath for Paladin and BAM. Necromancy based knight.
What do you think of the combination: the Steel garrote/streetfighter
Holy slayer is a strong combo
Are these guides still applicable for the current version of the game? I'm just bought the PS4 version on sale.
There have been a lot of patches. The general concepts are fine but a lot of the early builds don't work the same. You can find update companion / turn based builds on the more recent articles here: fextralife.com/guides/pillars-of-eternity-2-deadfire-guides/
chanter is a really weird class, single and multiclass wise because the bonus of subclasses on it are so much better than no subclass that you should never choose no subclass on it. if you plan on making a variety chanter where you support and summon/do damage you should choose troubadour because it's most well rounded and beckoner if you plan on only using summons because you won't have time of doing anything else because of the reduced duration + amount of phrases you need for the last summons in the game. the other three subclasses(counting no subclass) are not good compared to those two, they really need to buff Skald and nerf the lingering part of troubadour.
has 2 weapon style talent been removed from the game? i cant find it anymore ^^
No. It's in the first, or second tier of the passives.
So I'm going to play a character whose I played in PoE. I mean Nature Godlike Goldpact Paladin. He was a tank in my team. I want to mix him with another class. Which should I choose? I don't care about his role - he could be dps, tank, caster, anything.
Also I'm thinking about choosing a belrath priest and mix him for example with warrior as an alternative version of my paladin. What about that?
Fighter or Chanter are both good choices imo.
Clerics are excellent as wel
@@Fextralife Ok, and which role in a team should he play? Because I wonder if Eder as a Swashbuckler could be a good tank
@@adevarmk Eder is great for a tank. Persistent Distraction allows him to flank any target he Engages, which can be up to around 5 or so people.
i want to play a devoted fighter + one hand style + pistol sort of duelist crit seeker character. does the +25% crit from devoted negate the -25% crit on pistols?
another question does sword and shield style not work together with one handed like it did in poe 1?
I believe Crit bonuses are additive, so that would wipe out the Crit penalty in theory. I believe you only get the Crit bonus if you One-hand without a Shield, since Shields are technically "weapons".
@@Fextralife thanks for the reply and glad you made an update video as a lot has changed since release.
Turn based mode guide?
I have combined a Arcane Archer with a non subclass wizard
Now, around midgame I realize my mistake, as I am a por wizard and a mediocre ranger =(
My first character was a chanter/tactician, and oh boy! that actually worked! especially when you summon a bunch of useless skeletons to flank your enemies
I must be an idiot but, how do you multi-class your companions? I don't see the option anywhere.
You multiclass them (or not) when you recruit them. The game will ask you if you want to and you can accept or decline.
@@Fextralife I see. Thank you. I take it that there is no way to change it, even if you retrain them? I wantes to set Pallegina as my healer since Xoti isn't cutting it anymore.,
@@Bahumaz go to any tavern and you can retrain for a cost $$
@@xkillrocknroll1 changing class=/=redistributing level up points
I thought you had one more divinity original sin 2 build?
fextralife.com/divinity-original-sin-2-builds-occult-flamewielder-mage/
Does anyone know when this will be available on ps4
March 29, 2019.
@@brianogilby7220 Don't think that was ever confirmed, it still not out on consoles
Mario Romero Now
Is Steel Gorrator priest of woedica possible? Viable?
What exactly was your idea?
@@Fextralife Solo self buffer... High difficulty if viable.
@@nexishadow Because Priest spells have lengthy cast times I don't see how you can play this solo effectively.
@@Fextralife Good to know. What if it's in a party and she uses a bow or is a secondary tank or dps?
@@nexishadow In a party with a ranged weapon would be ideal.
What mod are you using to run that fast?
I'm not using one. You can press "F" to run fast.
MORE.
Is it just me or building fighters through might sucks in this game? Perception and dexterity look way more useful in terms of killing everything as soon as possible.
A tank might not need it, but with a dps fighter you might as well dump resolve and go all in on both dex perception and might. This gives you the potential for stupid amounts of damage. I dont think you should ever need to choose between might and dex/per.
@@RJMacReady1 dumping resolve kinda makes you a glass cannon, no? I played with superfast dps monk+rogue with no armor or watershaper's robe on, and I had to keep resolve at least at 10 not to die from the first hit))))
@@romanscherbakov9561 A rogue monk with no armor will always be squishy, so I think its a waste of a lot of points to give them pretty bad deflection instead of really shitty deflection. Much rather put those points into damage output and just keep the char in second row until the tank(s) has/have aggroed melee enemies. Hell, with rogue talents you can just have the char zipping about, only killing ranged enemies and casters. With 18-20 might, dex, and per + whatever youre getting from gear, you will be ANNIHILATING the back row enemies without being in any particular danger.
I almost never put anything in resolve. In my current custom party potd run, I have a melee dualwield barb paladin, and he has 3 resolve. Hes all about constitution and armor rating, and he can take a goddamn BEATING, while also being very fast and the best damage dealer aside from my main character.
@@romanscherbakov9561 Rogue/monk was my first ever character by the way, always loved that combination :-) !
@@RJMacReady1 Well, I maybe just don't like to see negative numbers in my stats, that's why I'm not dumping anything))) I'll give it a try))
No necro....
I just started playing on gamepass and I just want an overpowered Druid build .
Same
Considering that you can just mod the game however you want, there has never been not such thing as unbalance or sub-optimal/invalid builds. You can make the game as "balanced" or "unbalanced" as you see fit. This is one of the main reasons why I prefer PC over console, you can do whatever the heck you want with the game. As such, this update changes nothing for me in terms of "viable" class combinations.
ALL the Barbarian subclasses suck. The penalties are way too harsh, to be worth it. Berserker is probably the best one, but constantly harms yourself, and harms your teammates in melee range. It's ridiculous