How Apple Started A Dark Age of the Internet

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  • This is the story of Apple, the forbidden fruit, that led us into a dark age of consumerism, conformity, and control. In this documentary, I explore how we got here, and how we might be able to find light in this darkness.
    written, edited, filmed, and produced by me
    with copywriting assistance by VinceVintage and friends
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    Question - Million Eyes
    Revolution - The Beatles 8 Bit
    Cantos de Medicina
    Trmble - Lemoti
    One Hundred Mornings - Windows96
    Day Tripper - The Beatles 8 Bit
    Amaze - Major Tweaks
    Jerk It Out - Caesars 8 Bit
    Temple of Ruhna - ELFL
    Arabesque No 1 - Debussy
    Clock Town Third Day - The Legend of Zelda Majora's Mask
    Dream Baby Dream - Cover by Kevin Bessey (produced for this video)
    Op 90 No 3 Una Corda Cotton - Shubert
    Graze - Cover by Shuler and Slush (vocals by Slush, prod. by Shuler)
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  • @GlinkBetweenWorlds
    @GlinkBetweenWorlds  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1108

    The conclusion wasn’t simply about psychedelics as substances, it was about their effects on people and what types of thought arose out of their influence. The point is, reaching towards an ideal of higher consciousness awareness.

    • @spoonman9584
      @spoonman9584 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      It makes me curious if there is any data that proves this though. There's probably loads, but because of how everything seems censored nowadays, I've never seen it. What are some good sources to check out that talks about that?
      Funnily enough, I told an acquaintance of mine the other day about my life goals and he told me that I should try LSD, as well as all the good things he's heard of it. Not that I'm going to, but I'm now infinitely curious about it.

    • @abiyouth_
      @abiyouth_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Really ?

    • @yoh2171
      @yoh2171 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      pog

    • @matthewangelucci4849
      @matthewangelucci4849 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@spoonman9584 So, there has been some MRI imaging done recently about LSD in particular, i forget the details, but effectively what the drug seems to do is revert the brain back to a more childlike, connected state, one more akin to what is seen in early childhood when the brain is willing and ready to make all sorts of connections that it is not used to making.

    • @galaxy5086
      @galaxy5086 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Thank you so much for including Terrence, he has talked of the internet as sort of universal consciousness of our species! Loved the whole documentary man great work!

  • @hgnbfc2
    @hgnbfc2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1640

    Even in the modern internet where everyone is more connected than ever, I feel more alone than ever before. At times I feels like I'm the only one who remembers the old rules of the internet: "Never give anyone your real name or any identifying information. Never post photos of yourself. Always keep your real life and internet life separate." But now in today's culture, you're the weird one if you don't have a social media that lists all the details of your person, as if wanting to stay anonymous online is a bad thing.

    • @archivez101
      @archivez101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +280

      Fucking facts. Kids back in high school looked at me as the weird kid for not having Instagram or shitty snapchat

    • @LancesArmorStriking
      @LancesArmorStriking 3 ปีที่แล้ว +186

      It'd funny that I (as a 2000's kid) vividly remember those rules being beaten into our heads.... right about the time when Facebook became popular.
      I mean to be fair, Myspace preceded it, but on Facebook it felt like people started posting _way_ more personal info and pictures than before. Funny too, since I followed those rules and ended up missing out on the early days of social media. Now that it's over, I kind of wish I'd just taken the dive...

    • @FourOf92000
      @FourOf92000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      let's be weird ones together

    • @archivez101
      @archivez101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@FourOf92000 ok :)

    • @A-No-One
      @A-No-One 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@FourOf92000 i love you brother. Its not you. Its them.

  • @CapsUnlocked
    @CapsUnlocked 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1852

    Steve Jobs is the embodiment of "you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain". He died right before the true negative impact of his work could be seen.

    • @lyokianhitchhiker
      @lyokianhitchhiker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +224

      His death marked the beginning of Apple's downward spiral.

    • @khangminhlo2886
      @khangminhlo2886 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@lyokianhitchhiker well that's kinda true

    • @lyokianhitchhiker
      @lyokianhitchhiker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@khangminhlo2886 Not sure I’d that’s where it began, or it was just the point of no return while already on 1.

    • @khangminhlo2886
      @khangminhlo2886 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@lyokianhitchhiker well apple is still creat new good things like the M1 chip and their privacy motivated moves

    • @dawger
      @dawger 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@khangminhlo2886 that's just hardware man

  • @marianoclerici3986
    @marianoclerici3986 3 ปีที่แล้ว +647

    "We are creating a world where anyone, anywhere may express his or her beliefs no matter how singular without fear of being coerced into silence or comformity"
    It's amazing how reality ended up being almost exactly the opposite.

    • @KRAFTWERK2K6
      @KRAFTWERK2K6 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Always does....

    • @ididntaskverified3663
      @ididntaskverified3663 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Sadly the cobra effect bites back again

    • @stokedmtb333
      @stokedmtb333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      “A dark age of conformity…” is inevitable whenever corporations look to package, market and sell any product. This phenomenon of hyper-consumerism was ignited once tech companies realized how to weaponize capitalism disguised and advertised as innovation when in reality we are ironically enslaved.

    • @Mrmaverickism
      @Mrmaverickism 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@stokedmtb333 they marketed the internet as a totally free market of ideas but failed to see that any free market leads to monopolies, even in the realm of ideas, but especially when your idea is physically held in server bays with very real people owning them

    • @beachbum111111
      @beachbum111111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@Mrmaverickism It's not really capitalism when the server owners, banks, and government itself turn against you the second you try to create an alternative, with your competitor getting subsidized by said government with billions. Don't mistake capitalism for what is in reality an oligarchy.

  • @CZsWorld
    @CZsWorld 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2562

    I remember when TH-cam came out with the new channel format. No color scheme, hidden bio, no custom modules. I'm still waiting for those features to come back.

    • @Blackout00745
      @Blackout00745 3 ปีที่แล้ว +137

      You'll be waiting in vain for that...

    • @TheEmilyMonster
      @TheEmilyMonster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +195

      Video replies were such a big thing back then

    • @Hynotama
      @Hynotama 3 ปีที่แล้ว +117

      I'd be happy if they fired that vile vvoman that's running it and if they stop being so woke and censorship happy.

    • @edding8400
      @edding8400 3 ปีที่แล้ว +87

      @@Hynotama Not gonna happen. That entire industry is the vvoke underworld.

    • @FlutterSwag
      @FlutterSwag 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      @@edding8400 being woke is the new buisness model, unfortunately

  • @Jiggleslinky
    @Jiggleslinky 3 ปีที่แล้ว +755

    Someone else said it in the comments but I feel the same way: I used to use the internet to escape reality but now I use reality to escape the internet.

    • @dunnowy123
      @dunnowy123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Every day I try my hardest to step away. I don't really think I ever do though.

    • @phoebexxlouise
      @phoebexxlouise 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      What am I supposed to do? How am I supposed to connect with my friends without it? I would love to delete Facebook but how would I know when my friends birthdays are?

    • @ChaosTherum
      @ChaosTherum 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Damn that's a really good line.

    • @Lazauya
      @Lazauya 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      @@phoebexxlouise you buy a calender and ask them

    • @thepastaprogenitor851
      @thepastaprogenitor851 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Læx try falling asleep in 30 minute intervals or repeatedly waking up and sleeping when tired. You can farm Dreams when doing that

  • @JackOLanter
    @JackOLanter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Calling Wozniak a mere "manufacturer" is an insult.
    Jobs was a visionary, Wozniak was the genius engineer and programming virtuoso behind Apple products.

  • @surrealentertainment
    @surrealentertainment 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2451

    I keep saying this about every video of yours but your editing style and the way you use different tracks and effects always mesh so well together. Love your dive into psychedelics and the effects they've had on the world as well

    • @joshy-noha
      @joshy-noha 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      I love your content too!

    • @GibsHaberdashery
      @GibsHaberdashery 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      based

    • @CMHC
      @CMHC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Two legends

    • @kristiant96
      @kristiant96 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Bazanga

    • @jneal1347
      @jneal1347 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Awesome seeing you here!

  • @yungtoolshed251
    @yungtoolshed251 3 ปีที่แล้ว +805

    The internet from the 90’s up until 2010/2012 was the true “golden age” of the internet where anyone could post anything and content was incredibly diverse. While the quality of content on the internet is better, the internet itself has become a place where social media hive minds argue and demonetize each other.

    • @Floridamangaming729
      @Floridamangaming729 3 ปีที่แล้ว +104

      Yea there's some scary shit on the internet. people nowadays share literally everything about there private lives like it's completely normal. like im not even comfortable people knowing my first and last name.

    • @Lactovacilo939
      @Lactovacilo939 3 ปีที่แล้ว +89

      that time was basically the wild west. it was fun as fuck. too bad people rather not have fun anymore

    • @Grandmaster-Kush
      @Grandmaster-Kush 3 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      It was fun to discover, now everythings so sterile and boring, the general mindset is just less interesting

    • @NajwaLaylah
      @NajwaLaylah 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Yes; it really is harder to find anything I haven't heard of before since that time. Not impossible; just harder.

    • @misterkefir
      @misterkefir 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Yep.. I mark the age of the smartphone and social media craze (2012/3 - onwards) as the end of the "Internet Golden Age". That's spot on.

  • @BlueBlaze99
    @BlueBlaze99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +379

    Moral of the story:
    If you're weird, you're normal. If you're normal, you need to get back to being weird.

    • @id3m589
      @id3m589 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@glacierlegion9439 actually the author of the video suggests taking psychedelic drugs, to be more weird.
      The parallels that can be drawn are literally dystopian...

    • @thetechguychannel
      @thetechguychannel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Right now, being "weird" is starting a family and tightening ties to your local community.

    • @id3m589
      @id3m589 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@glacierlegion9439 You probably need to use search to know the real meaning of this word...

    • @johnroyal4054
      @johnroyal4054 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@glacierlegion9439 go outside dude. How the hell is that fascist?

    • @IC-lz3of
      @IC-lz3of 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@thetechguychannel Being honest, incorruptible, having some morals, and having non-collective opinions is now also non-conformist.

  • @Grasshopper567
    @Grasshopper567 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1083

    "Reject modernity; return to monke." -written from a smartphone, probably

    • @strahinjatopalovic2540
      @strahinjatopalovic2540 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      well, Jesus was jewish, you need to start from somewhere right?

    • @LancesArmorStriking
      @LancesArmorStriking 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@strahinjatopalovic2540
      lmao

    • @nicolasvanausdale990
      @nicolasvanausdale990 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      You critique society, and yet you live in it?

    • @strahinjatopalovic2540
      @strahinjatopalovic2540 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@nicolasvanausdale990 This guy came up with a moto and critique d society, like Nikola Tesla did he critiqued the old energy and came up with a new one

    • @maxine3978
      @maxine3978 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Reject animal form
      embrace your intellect
      take control

  • @thedeeptv8819
    @thedeeptv8819 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1799

    In the most ironic turn of events, the people who feared "1984" were the actual ones who brought us a step closer to it.

    • @mooilife2497
      @mooilife2497 3 ปีที่แล้ว +125

      Yeah it's almost like the ones who brought things into the world they saw on "psychedelic trips" were being used by some entity.

    • @blade7506
      @blade7506 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      exactly what i was thinking

    • @shadowling77777
      @shadowling77777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      @@mooilife2497 Ikr lol Alex Jones was right XD

    • @MastaGambit
      @MastaGambit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      @@shadowling77777 The people these days who fear "1984" are the very kind of people who are brainwashed by alex jones

    • @RoboticusMusic
      @RoboticusMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      @@MastaGambit And the people who don't fear it?

  • @delightfulsquirtle316
    @delightfulsquirtle316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +193

    man, I miss the old internet. Everything was so personal... nowadays it's all the same....

    • @fatuusdottore
      @fatuusdottore 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same smh.

    • @432HzFlute
      @432HzFlute 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same.

    • @KennethSee
      @KennethSee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Ironic how it was more anonymous but more personal? I completely agree. I miss having dear relationships with people I'll never know the names of. FartKnocker69 may have had an obnoxious username but man did I enjoy his posts.

  • @JohnDoe-xw6mg
    @JohnDoe-xw6mg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +608

    My low self esteem saved me from social media. I never thought anything I posted, tweeted, etc. would matter. When I grew up, I realized it's not that I have low self esteem it's that most people are unironic narcissists.

    • @rassedd
      @rassedd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +139

      I feel like this is true for a lot of people, myself included. Looking at social media from an outsiders view is very alienating. Almost feels like we live on an entirely different planet.

    • @goldeneaglereborn
      @goldeneaglereborn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nope

    • @theaveragesquire
      @theaveragesquire 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same here

    • @kronkrian100
      @kronkrian100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      No offense, but this sounds like something a narcissist would say.

    • @ramontavaresdacruz2256
      @ramontavaresdacruz2256 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      That's not low self esteem, 90% of what people post, tweet, etc. don't really matter, they do it without thinking through it because if they do think they'll realise there's no real point besides the anxiety of the chance of feeling somehow liked

  • @timothyswindell4924
    @timothyswindell4924 3 ปีที่แล้ว +559

    I really hope the YT algorithm doesn’t bury this because it needs to be seen. Amazing work dude.

    • @MagnaLynx21
      @MagnaLynx21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      When you realize he's made this exact same video in three different forms now though, it's a bit lackluster

    • @viteksefl
      @viteksefl 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      it didn't for me :)

    • @ruigoncalves2
      @ruigoncalves2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MagnaLynx21 what do you mean?

    • @jerrym1218
      @jerrym1218 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Timothy Swindell- unless the YT algorithm is sending it to people that are chosen to see this video.
      Sending it to people that YT deems destined for witnessing Glink and his message/information.

    • @amadeuscrossing7061
      @amadeuscrossing7061 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      When you realize it has.

  • @pudimy
    @pudimy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +365

    Apple before: we are going to reinvent tecnology!
    Apple now: here's the same phone but more expensive 🥺

    • @Shanboss277
      @Shanboss277 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      If you think that’s what they’re doing you don’t understand tech

    • @funnelvortex7722
      @funnelvortex7722 3 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      @@Shanboss277 No, it perfectly sums up what they are doing. People are happy to pay 40+% more money just for their phone to be a certain color despite color making zero difference in performance.

    • @baldychkn2949
      @baldychkn2949 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      @@Shanboss277 they sold a fucking computer stand for $1000

    • @barritoothy
      @barritoothy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@funnelvortex7722 no, you’re just wrong, they have one of the best cameras, their CPU’s are also nearly the best, and the UI is the best, so no. You’re wrong.

    • @namesurname4666
      @namesurname4666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Me Am who even cares about cameras, why it's so important !

  • @GlinkBetweenWorlds
    @GlinkBetweenWorlds  3 ปีที่แล้ว +403

    As soon as Barlow says "conformity" he shuts his lighter off. Later on, I used clips of people on tiktok collectively biting their lighters then flicking them on to enforce a point of how internet culture has bred conformity.

    • @shadowling77777
      @shadowling77777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @John J Keaveney YARR HARR FIDDLEDEEDEE YOU ARE A PIRATE

    • @GlinkBetweenWorlds
      @GlinkBetweenWorlds  3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @John J Keaveney interesting idea

    • @447GHT
      @447GHT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Is this whole thing an April fools’ joke? I’m genuinely confused. I had made a mean comment earlier but I realized replying here might give me a chance to interact with you directly on a personal level, so I deleted it out of goodwill remembering that content creators are people too.
      I don’t agree with the premise or the conclusions at all. The hippie movement did not by any means begin counterculture in America, and like other underground trends gone huge American counterculture both tolerated the movement and continued indifferently after its passing. I also found very disingenuous the way Google and Facebook’s roles in the state of things on the internet now were glossed over. The fact that someone could make such grand claims about openmindedness while blaming a single company for the modern world’s ills and failing so critically to study its roots, is staggering to me.
      The way Steve Jobs is lifted up in this video as anything more than a visionary businessman contributes to the cult of personality built up around him. As usual, the accomplishments of Wozniak’s brilliant engineering mind are overlooked. The fact that Jobs’ obsession with eastern medicine led him to eschew treatment for cancer and hasten his own death is a testament to the caprices of his “ideals”.
      The tik tok montage was the best part of the video, and I watched it several times. It genuinely opened my eyes and made me regret looking down on the app and its users.Watching those lovely young people all doing the same meme together at the same time made me realize the subtly individual spin each one put on their iteration of the meme in a way that seeing them one after the other never could. That their data is possibly being collected by the Chinese government (to what possible end?)isn’t as sad to me as the implication that someone could take the time to put together that montage, and not realize the subtlety, diversity, and creativity in what they were looking at. Even furthermore, that they instead have the gall to hold it up as an example of conformity.
      The sheer irony of you using an iPhone the entire time in the video... Is this all a joke? Did I get trolled hard? Or... are you actually serious?

    • @GlinkBetweenWorlds
      @GlinkBetweenWorlds  3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@447GHT The goal was never to say one company is evil or to even blame a company at all. Its true that Jobs couldn't have done it without Wozniak, but the truth is, Wozniak wasn't driven by the same vision Jobs was, infact he was perfectly happy at his job at Hewlett-Packard before Jobs convinced him to start apple. Jobs was undeniably inspired by the counterculture movement and the artists that came of it, not only that but at the same time, cyberlibertarians like John Perry Barlow who were also inspired by the movement, formed their own visions for the internet. Apple created tools for the mind, culminating into the iphone, the universal device which laid the blueprint for every other smartphone and smart device today. As a result, the internet of websites was replaced by the internet of apps. These apps have proven to be detrimental to the mental health of a growing number of people, but beyond that they have created a culture of conformity and consumerism that is larger than any other in history thanks to the accessibility of these devices. I didn't talk about Google, Facebook, or Microsoft as much because while there is a lot to say regarding their comeuppance, they didn't create the iphone and they weren't tied to the counterculture in the same way that Apple was. Im glad you liked the montage though. For what its worth, I do think I could have improved on a lot for this video and in the future I will try to do better. but the fact that you watched that far means that it was at least entertaining enough to hold your attention.

    • @LKRaider
      @LKRaider 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      You both make good points and I wish the internet of apps that is youtube now too would allow for better discussion and discourse.

  • @implord851
    @implord851 3 ปีที่แล้ว +222

    Sadly the internet is no longer as free as we think it is

    • @violenceisfun991
      @violenceisfun991 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you a car?

    • @N3ONLUV
      @N3ONLUV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@violenceisfun991 I can't wait until this is an actual question. Imagine!

    • @alistairmackintosh9412
      @alistairmackintosh9412 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Of course it's not free, it's a market commodity.

    • @BoleDaPole
      @BoleDaPole 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Nothing can truly be free.

    • @janitoalevic
      @janitoalevic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Let's all try Odysee

  • @ovidiuzakarias678
    @ovidiuzakarias678 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Superb correlation between the counterculture of the 60s, followed by its blanding down into conformity, followed by a new counterculture of the internet, followed by the conformity of our present time. I am aware that times are cyclical and history repeats itself, but this is next level. Thank you for sharing these ideas with us.

  • @MasterEth
    @MasterEth 3 ปีที่แล้ว +335

    I'd play "A Link Between Social Media Use and the Rising Rates of Depression" if Nintendo dropped it

    • @MastaGambit
      @MastaGambit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      lol i was depressed long before social media
      so its funny to me, all these people commin out the woodwork with their "phone bad" ideology tryna claim that social media intrinsically causes depression
      nahhh bih, social media only amplifies what's already existing inside you, the goods and the bads

    • @DJDiarrhea
      @DJDiarrhea 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@MastaGambit Not really. Apps like instagram and news apps tend to bias the posts you see in a way that prefers posts that make your angry. Anger is a very strong emotion that is pretty easy to illicit in most people and by keeping you angry at some "other" they keep you using their site.

  • @rctecopyright
    @rctecopyright 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1087

    Without a doubt mid 2000's internet was lit af. I'm glad I got to experience it and in my teens no less.

    • @MastaGambit
      @MastaGambit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I mean it was... certainly interesting. "Lit", however, depends on who you ask, and where/what they visited. And god help you if you're actually gay. (I mean I guess society as a whole also rammed that shit through our heads too, but still)

    • @rctecopyright
      @rctecopyright 3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      @@MastaGambit "it depends" is generally true for anything. All I can say was that at that time a lot of stuff like social media, video streaming, online gaming, etc was still fairly new as being accessible to the general public. It was kind of a golden age in the sense that things weren't as tightly controlled like it is now. Lots of entities were still figuring things out. There wasn't generally a formula for everything and online didn't necessarily rule your entire existence in the way it does now for the most part. I had lots of experiences that just don't fly in today's modern internet setting. As for the gay thing, I hear ya but I went to a high school that had a fairly high number of openly gay students and they generally weren't hassled for being gay. It was still high school so it wasn't a utopia or anything but being gay wasn't an issue, we had a few trans folk there as well and this was in the midwest. I'm not trying to prove rules or exceptions all I'm saying is that from what I saw, mid 2000's internet was indeed lit.

    • @nathanericschwabenland88888
      @nathanericschwabenland88888 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Meh I was a 1990s internet user remember dial up

    • @nathanericschwabenland88888
      @nathanericschwabenland88888 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The world is a cube

    • @TheLastMillennials
      @TheLastMillennials 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@rctecopyright yeah, 90s and early-mid 2000s were golden

  • @Stingray112
    @Stingray112 3 ปีที่แล้ว +161

    What was so weird for me was the shift around 2012 where it went from seeing the internet as this secret club with all these jokes no one else around me was in on, to all of a sudden becoming constantly unfamiliar with whatever the latest meme or celebrity is. From feeling like a loser for being online all the time to feeling like a loser for not having an online presence. I was born in 2002 and what I loved about the internet in, say, 2007-2012 was the amount of websites you could go on and find new things, like you had newgrounds with loads of different flash games, TH-cam with people like nigahiga and fred doing comedy skits, icanhazcheezburger with rage comics that actually had a punchline. Once the internet became so popular the uniqueness died. Flash games don’t exist anymore, every game is a $70 reskin of the last that people seemingly only play to get famous/go pro instead of having fun, most people I knew who played games at the latest 2016 don’t even touch them anymore. TH-cam is dead at this point, the only thing left is people who post video essays once every 6 months. Every meme is the same, “duh huh I’m depressed”, there is no humour just “haha I relate to that”. I think all of it is a reflection on the declining mental health of society. If not our generation then the generation after us will hopefully be the one to recognise how toxic this oversocialisation, I think gen z is too jaded to it. All I know is that it will take a revolution for us to even decrease our internet consumption by 50%

    • @yamiyo6050
      @yamiyo6050 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Gen z is too lazy to do anything 😂 we can barley work

    • @cocoxo136
      @cocoxo136 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@bruno_kunda Nice essay, but what you are saying here isn't actual fact it just sounds like your personal sadness and frustration.

    • @lamarwealthchild6199
      @lamarwealthchild6199 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bruno_kunda i feel where you are coming from ..you made some great points for discussion

    • @user-vi4xy1jw7e
      @user-vi4xy1jw7e 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Imagine thinking the internet was a secret club in 2012. Next, you're going to complain about good songs only having a couple million views.

    • @Stingray112
      @Stingray112 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user-vi4xy1jw7e what do you think of this quote “Love is when you have a 9am the next day and you stay up talking to them till 7am anyway because you just like their company and existence so much”

  • @Bairom06
    @Bairom06 3 ปีที่แล้ว +716

    I really miss the mid 2000s internet, og content. No sell outs, no censorship and no cancel culture.

    • @Grandmaster-Kush
      @Grandmaster-Kush 3 ปีที่แล้ว +125

      Yes, the internet was for nerds not soccer moms and children (and corporations)

    • @yungtoolshed251
      @yungtoolshed251 3 ปีที่แล้ว +100

      @@Grandmaster-Kush but the soccer moms eventually won. The same people who were afraid of the original Doom creating a bunch of hyper violent teens now dictate who gets to say what on the internet and their kids cancel you.

    • @NajwaLaylah
      @NajwaLaylah 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Grandmaster-Kush Only a really unimaginative person would think that.

    • @ceoofsony5924
      @ceoofsony5924 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      Tf is cancel culture? In the 80s conservatives try to ban rap music, I call that real cancel culture. In the 90s and 2000s they tried to ban video games. Give me a break.

    • @yungtoolshed251
      @yungtoolshed251 3 ปีที่แล้ว +111

      @@ceoofsony5924 today’s cancel culture revolves around individuals and brands compared to cultural movements. The Republicans of the 90’s didn’t specifically hate pac and biggie, they hated the entire genre for “glorifying violence” or some stupid shit. Nowadays an individual can be branded as an ist solely because enough people think that individual is an ist. Cancel culture is about a collective of equally ignorant people slandering a person or thing they do not like, solely because they think they are “problematic” and not in line with their own beliefs.

  • @riversan90
    @riversan90 3 ปีที่แล้ว +417

    I frequently talk to my father, who was heavily into the PC scene in the 70s up to today, about how the Net as a whole and technology just doesn't feel like it used to. We often reflect on how it was in the 90s, but, even from my teenage years, some 15 years ago, it is even vastly different. The old adage, "The more we're connected, the further apart we feel" becomes more true, to me, every day.

    • @More_Row
      @More_Row 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Great comment

    • @transsexual_computer_faery
      @transsexual_computer_faery 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wasn't it just different because WE were different? Or is it really that the fabric of the net has changed?

    • @More_Row
      @More_Row 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@transsexual_computer_faery Yeah the internet is sort of downstream of culture. An amplifier of the current culture almost.

    • @transsexual_computer_faery
      @transsexual_computer_faery 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@More_Row oh yeah, that too

    • @saygoodnighttoghosts
      @saygoodnighttoghosts 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@transsexual_computer_faery the fabric has unfortunately changed. It feels like innovation takes second seat to monetary gain.

  • @tugnutter
    @tugnutter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +179

    I never grew up in the message board era, I was about 6 when the iPhone came out and grew up in the apple era. Social media has to be the most toxic thing to come out of it. Deleting social media has to of been one of the most relieving things I’ve ever done.

    • @peteytwofinger
      @peteytwofinger 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      there also were trolls and professional a-hole types that were bred from the forum scenes . they were more rare but they were out there . there are people out are such huge zeros they have nothing else then to tear others down . these are the people who never have anything to share that they put their necks out for or worked hard for . these are the new satans and they are everywhere . its simple for me ... be nice . 2 words . if someone is a dick well they should be banned immediately . do not tollerate cruelty / evil .

    • @maximrukinov3101
      @maximrukinov3101 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just wondering what will be the next big thing for people like us.

    • @Skumtomten1
      @Skumtomten1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Problem is, it is hard to live a normal life today without using social media. I mean, youtube is social media for example. Not using social media is a huge handicap for yourself on many occasions.

    • @georgekosko5124
      @georgekosko5124 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@peteytwofinger trolls are the least important factor that make social media problematic. The whole narcissistic culture of people wanting to show themselves as always happy and interesting (which ultimately depresses them) is far more serious.

    • @RenaissanceBro
      @RenaissanceBro 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@maximrukinov3101 Off grid

  • @ericpa06
    @ericpa06 3 ปีที่แล้ว +272

    >apple in the 80s: fight against the big brother
    >apple nowadays: we don't even allow you to install third-party software in your phone

    • @HaohmaruHL
      @HaohmaruHL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Can't even arrange icons on iPhone as you want, let alone that..

    • @IcidLink
      @IcidLink 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Apple is still about Privacy they Track you less than Google on Android

    • @KaiserMattTygore927
      @KaiserMattTygore927 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      @@IcidLink Nice PR.

    • @faamlive1340
      @faamlive1340 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@IcidLink They do it and rely on other companies like google and facebook to get the data they need. While yes, i do believe Apple gave better privacy, if you use other apps that doesn't, its pretty useless.
      I won't blame you since people who critize this kinda thing still relies on their Android/iOS phones, windows pc and other things.

    • @fenn_fren
      @fenn_fren 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Wave goodbye to your favorite NSFW Discord server!

  • @satanus_369
    @satanus_369 3 ปีที่แล้ว +787

    The thing people fail to see about psychedelics is that their boundary-dissolving properties are a double-edged sword. If you don't have any boundaries in the first place, like all those Tiktok obsessed teenagers, psychedelics will only make you more mentally ill, not less. If you're considering doing psychedelics, you are warned. First, develop your boundaries in a sober way. Figure out which things fly or don't fly with you. Establish who you are as a person before you challenge that very notion. If you don't, your psychedelic trip will only make you more of a slave, not less.

    • @GibsHaberdashery
      @GibsHaberdashery 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      Absolutely. Most of the stock I own is psychedelics, but that brings more concern than anything as they may be overused like opioids, synthetics are preferred since you can't patent the mushroom, and a lot of people risk triggering schizophrenia/vision disorders from their use. Like weed, it can end up used for pleasure and traumatize someone unprepared.

    • @IcidLink
      @IcidLink 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@GibsHaberdashery yes I’m also scared that it gets worse for society and we End up with a Society that is constantly on Drugs because People can’t cope with reality anymore any other way. And than we have to deal with all the negative things that that brings like having People with even more Aggression because some Drugs can make them even more Aggressive. The Worst case would be a World like in Altered Carbon where People mostly from the poorer classes do Drugs, Partying and consume Entertainment all day because there is (they see) no other purpose for them in Life.

    • @nicholasgeere5125
      @nicholasgeere5125 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      @@IcidLink drugs have been a part of human history since before we were recording it. theres nothing new under the sun, try not to be so alarmed about everything

    • @JuanRanklin
      @JuanRanklin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      This needs to be pinned.

    • @marierejoiceinjesus3846
      @marierejoiceinjesus3846 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Yep, been there. Had a 10 hour bad trip and it took years to come "back". Had anxiety for over a decade from it.

  • @almightykuzon
    @almightykuzon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    I was so fascinated with the concept of computers growing up, the internet made it even better. but smartphones never really gave me that same gratification. they feel too dumbed down and simplified. i did take the colorful and individualistic internet i grew up with for granted because social media becoming more and more homogenized makes the internet seem too boring for me to want to stay for long. great video!

  • @bigpad2354
    @bigpad2354 3 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    I remember when I was in elementary in 2008 my mom brought us a computer to improve and study more on whatever school work I had to do. At the time my community saw the computer as something boring and unpopular so they usually never gave it any thought yet I was curious about it. Over a month later I felt like the most excited kid after school as it provided an escape from the conformity of real life through expressing yourself without consequences, chatting with others through small communities, and people being creative by creating any flash or fan game or making animations online. It truly was a time to be free.

  • @thorn9382
    @thorn9382 3 ปีที่แล้ว +672

    Apple products going against the grain ironically BECAME the grain

    • @GirlLove4Ever
      @GirlLove4Ever 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Now as basic as it gets.

    • @AntiquatedApe
      @AntiquatedApe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Because profits come first in these dealings

    • @dertythegrower
      @dertythegrower 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Apple is slow.. not good... lol. You kids are so clueless.. look up port royal benchmark.. that is the top benchmark software. its all intel, kid.. fact, i win

    • @michaela.754
      @michaela.754 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@AntiquatedApe where are the profits in virtue signaling?

    • @sharpes123
      @sharpes123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@dertythegrower cringe

  • @kubabohdan7020
    @kubabohdan7020 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I have never expected to see psychedelics and macs in one video essay, what an absolutely marvelous job. I’m subscribed, you’re so great!
    Thanks for raising awareness about psylocybin, it helped me heaps with my depression and anxiety disorder.

  • @mrshodos
    @mrshodos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +987

    It’s good for your brain to remember how to feel bored, and not just try and fill that boredom with a TV show or infinite scrolling.
    Thanks infinite scroll feed for bringing me here though.

    • @bobdobalina838
      @bobdobalina838 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      GREAT point man.

    • @biivamunner3122
      @biivamunner3122 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I'd rather not feel bored, thank you very much

    • @Ub3rSk1llz
      @Ub3rSk1llz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Agreed. I purposefully don't take my phone with me when I take a shit. It's a meditative experience.

    • @biivamunner3122
      @biivamunner3122 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@Ub3rSk1llz I just don't take it because I don't wanna get germs on it.
      It's hardly a meditative experience when your body is in pain from trying to get the shit out.

    • @PowerSpirit50
      @PowerSpirit50 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      If I get bored my mind goes to places I'd rather it didn't.

  • @dashampootester1274
    @dashampootester1274 3 ปีที่แล้ว +153

    Not sure if I agree to with your psychedelic solution, but I agree we have a social media problem. Would be ignorant to say people should get out more? You’d be surprised how much getting outside or doing something active or productive can improve your mood and draw you closer to that feeling of fulfillment

    • @NajwaLaylah
      @NajwaLaylah 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Anyone who'd be surprised definitely should do so.

    • @alexandrerodrigues9844
      @alexandrerodrigues9844 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      The problem is how to convince people of doing that. The internet has a huge grasp on today's society, to the point where some people would probably go crazy without it. And it gets extra hard when all the companies, marketing people, influencers all converge and make people think this way of living is the only way of living, and if you don't, well, you are not cool and shit.

    • @bruhtholemew
      @bruhtholemew 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      People would rather watch others go outside on social media than do it themselves. I think that builds a sense of self doubt in a lot of soc media users. "Oh I could never do what they do", if you will. Self doubt is a huge problem now a days, and people are aware of it. They just choose to do nothing about it but make "relatable" memes and post about how trash they are. Hell that tiktok song in the video was a perfect example.

    • @Rider-fl4gf
      @Rider-fl4gf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@alexandrerodrigues9844 it's our digital mother

    • @name347
      @name347 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Thanks. Not sure why, but your comment prompted me to take a long walk, which is kinda rare for me. Definitely felt good.
      I was planning to just heat up a pizza once I got back, but now I wanna opt for actually cooking something.

  • @maycontainnuts3127
    @maycontainnuts3127 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    "You're all individuals!"
    *"YES WE'RE ALL INDIVIDUALS!"*
    "You're all different!"
    *"YES WE'RE ALL DIFFERENT"*
    ᶦᵐ ⁿᵒᵗ *ˢʰʰʰ ˢʰʰ*
    "You've all got to work it out for yourselves!"
    *"YES WE'VE GOT TO WORK IT OUT FOR OUTSELVES!"*

  • @boogerjohnson4442
    @boogerjohnson4442 3 ปีที่แล้ว +384

    “Damn, that’s messed up” I say to myself as I watch this video on my iPhone.

    • @ipsofacto4313
      @ipsofacto4313 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      Then proceeds to watch 18 other videos.

    • @Suba932
      @Suba932 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      @@ipsofacto4313 and consuming 50 ads

    • @Carcosahead
      @Carcosahead 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      “I think I need to delete all my social media” was all I was thinking about through this video.

    • @TheUnnamedAssailant
      @TheUnnamedAssailant 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      It’s not that the iPhone is bad in much the same way social media isn’t bad, it’s what you do with it. I use TH-cam to watch videos that expand my knowledge and understanding about things I’m interested in and I use some social media to discuss things with a few friends. The problem is letting these platforms to warp your perception on the world and being able to discern bullshit when you see it

    • @leonardo9259
      @leonardo9259 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Suba932 jokes on you i use YTvanced

  • @MahDryBread
    @MahDryBread 3 ปีที่แล้ว +648

    Man, the editing in your videos is always so good!

    • @GlinkBetweenWorlds
      @GlinkBetweenWorlds  3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Thankd man, also im glad your channel blew up, inspiring knowing how hard you worked to get there

    • @MahDryBread
      @MahDryBread 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@GlinkBetweenWorlds Thanks! I'm actually only 9 days away from hitting 10 years of daily uploads right now!

    • @irregularzero9537
      @irregularzero9537 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Every time TH-cam has "imporved" something they've only helped to make my experience less and less pleasant.
      Even things as benign as just changing a button's placement on the page. I mean fuck stop "improving" shit like that. Imagine you go from the 2021 Corolla to the 20222 model and they're like "yeah We know you got used to shifting from the floor and activating the turn signal with the left side lever, but we decided to switch both up and now you're gonna have to shift from the steering collumn (I know it used to be a thing, don't @t me.) and turn the turn signal on using the floor lever." and then the 2023 model is like "yeah we decided to put the turn signal directly on the door now and if you wanna put your turn signal on you just gotta have to press the new pedal we implemented." Constantly changing your site's layout for micro improvements that never actually made the site more ergonomic just served to drive people insane.

    • @overtlybiased
      @overtlybiased 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He didn't say which fossil he chose though :(

  • @maevtr3922
    @maevtr3922 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The company that told you to break away from the future of 1984 actually began the worlds path to 1984. Thats pretty much human history in a nutshell.

  • @123100ozzy
    @123100ozzy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +222

    I feel like crying seeing all of this. It's suffocating to live in a time in where mob rule is so popular.

    • @ajiththomas2465
      @ajiththomas2465 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      "Wah wah, I can't say the n-word without being criticized and oppressed by the mob rule, wah."

    • @123100ozzy
      @123100ozzy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      @@ajiththomas2465 as you make this comment, there's people in the american senate trying to pass laws to make any form of encryption illegal. Did you even watched the video? Free speech is being killed and you are making jokes.

    • @ajiththomas2465
      @ajiththomas2465 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@123100ozzy
      Funny, who is it in the Senate again that claim that they're pro-1A yet they continue to support the Patriot Act and up our obscenely and excessively large military budget?
      Also, criticism is not the same thing as censorship. Grow some thicker skin.

    • @123100ozzy
      @123100ozzy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      @@ajiththomas2465 stop being delusional. Did you even watched the video of the comment section you are in now? Google "see something say something act". It's not about thicker skin, it's about the state against the freedom of the individual to feely express himself. If you think this isn't an issue you are part of the problem.

    • @ajiththomas2465
      @ajiththomas2465 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @akamaro20
      And your lack of any real counter argument is telling. A boot licking reactionary sheep detected.

  • @rosecity_chris
    @rosecity_chris 3 ปีที่แล้ว +155

    Damn. Remember when most people were just chill to eachother on the internet? Seems like forever ago.

    • @mrjohnnyk
      @mrjohnnyk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yeah now everybody is trying to compete for clout.

    • @isetmfriendsofire
      @isetmfriendsofire 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I was just thinking that. It almost seems like another universe now.

    • @dingerling9017
      @dingerling9017 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      It's funny how them trying to rid the Internet of "toxicity" just created more of it.

    • @ogs_Boga1900
      @ogs_Boga1900 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ppl were more chill in general....

    • @professional.commentator
      @professional.commentator 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      There was a time like that? If there was, it most certainly had to have been before 2007 because I remember even back then there were bullies and haters online.

  • @agis_
    @agis_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +541

    the end song is a total jam

    • @amesoeurs
      @amesoeurs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      animal collective have some awesome songs (although that one was a cover of them). check out brothersport and fireworks by them

    • @HaonProductions
      @HaonProductions 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fall Be Kind is a hella underrated AnCo release

    • @alvin_row
      @alvin_row 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Although they don't have much mainstream appeal, there's a reason they're one of the most recognized artists in the indie scene. Check out Merriweather Post Pavilion and Strawberry Jam. They're pretty good.

    • @nathanericschwabenland88888
      @nathanericschwabenland88888 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And the whole world is a cube too

    • @generaldiscernment
      @generaldiscernment 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alvin_row Feels & Meeting Of The Waters are also super underrated.

  • @WorthlessWinner
    @WorthlessWinner 3 ปีที่แล้ว +411

    As an exclusive desktop user, I'm annoyed that every website is adapting to phones.

    • @NajwaLaylah
      @NajwaLaylah 3 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      Adapting exclusively to phones is bad.

    • @kyconny
      @kyconny 3 ปีที่แล้ว +85

      Facebook is almost unusable on desktop these days, it’s a react powered behemoth with a mobile interface that uses 80% cpu when you move your mouse

    • @WorthlessWinner
      @WorthlessWinner 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      @@kyconny - several websites became hard to use after they redesigned, seemingly to optimize for mobile use. In most cases, browser extensions exist that restore the old look of the site. I couldn't use twitter without my old look extension. But for whatever reason, facebook really clamped down on any extension that saught to restore the old look, they kept killing any one that appeared within days. So i don't use facebook anymore, i used to use it daily but since their latest redesign, I've used it about 3 times. I have no clue why they won't even let people choose to see the site in a way that works on desktop.

    • @Karami42
      @Karami42 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@WorthlessWinner Because the new designs implement new way to see ads that were not in the previous one. Each app that restores the old design would also remove that, meaning less data collected.

    • @fabianoalexandre1720
      @fabianoalexandre1720 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@WorthlessWinner mobile ruined internet on so many different levels, I can barely start to list it.

  • @thinkthing1984
    @thinkthing1984 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    A GIANT token of appreciation for the work going into this; it's an eye-opener as well as a life-changer shedding light on some serious recent underlying events of society at large. Super interesting, kudos!

  • @Mr.Coffee576
    @Mr.Coffee576 3 ปีที่แล้ว +165

    Even though the internet today embraces conformity than individualism, I think on some level it strengthened my resolve to be individualistic. Hence, I could never see myself using Tiktok. Twitter or those internet challenges. I miss those times when the internet used to be weird.

    • @firstnamelastname6379
      @firstnamelastname6379 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      To go against the grain, there needs to be a grain.

    • @Frikiman_H
      @Frikiman_H 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It still is. You just need to search harder.

    • @cultofthevoid5677
      @cultofthevoid5677 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @thertx1000 I don't use twitter but trolling imo is the only legitimate use for it. If for no other reason than to ruffle the feathers of the outrage mob.

    • @IcidLink
      @IcidLink 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m quite normal besides my Love for Videogames and Anime probably (what is now a really common thing) I don’t know really how you should be individual? Wearing Silly outrages Clothes? This is something already the e-boys on Tik Tok do! Wearing Gaming and Anime Shirts? Make your own clothes? Listening to weird music? Hmm how you can be totally individual in our Society today?

    • @Frikiman_H
      @Frikiman_H 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@IcidLink I think you're going about it the wrong way. Being an individual is not about rejecting what everyone else does, it's about doing what you want to do regardless of other people's judgment. So if you want to make your own clothes, go for it, and if you want to listen to weird music, go for it. But you should not do it just because it's not what others do, nor should you try to impose your tastes and ideals into others.

  • @bb-anon6746
    @bb-anon6746 3 ปีที่แล้ว +324

    I miss the "wild-west" feeling of the early internet. You could say whatever you want, meet some of the few people who share your niche hobbies without being mocked or have politics forced into the conversation or on to you. You had quality inside jokes in the small communities and forums you frequented, and actually original memes. I have so many good memories from those days, being able to escape the painful reality of my days in school and work. The normalization of the Internet among the mainstream and the creation of social media ruined everything. Forums and boards are heavily moderated and having the wrong opinion or saying the wrong thing gets you kicked out, hobbies that were once niche and persecuted have now become mainstream, with the original fans being pushed out. Politics are everything, and belong in every conversation. Original content and memes have all but disappeared, with the same templates and comics circling around and only the most relatable of concepts and feelings are encouraged. I miss the old days...

    • @IkWeetHetOprechtNiet
      @IkWeetHetOprechtNiet 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      The only thing I can think of is that it used to be okay to be openly racist and homophobic online. And that’s not okay anymore. As it should. Although, republicans get lots of shit online for simply being a republican. Which is obviously not okay.

    • @bb-anon6746
      @bb-anon6746 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      @@IkWeetHetOprechtNiet At no point was I complaining about not being able to say the gamer word or whatever. I'm complaining about spaces that were altogether politically moderate or politically free being infiltrated and ruined by those who brought it there, be it left or right. In many places you are censored for not having the correct opinion or saying the wrong thing, and it does not need to be homophobic or racist for that to happen. It stifles discussion and creativity in communities because if a person says or does the wrong thing, even accidentally, their ideas are discarded even if they have merit. Yes, back then some people said racist things, some people said homophobic things, but imo the sharp reaction has been worse than the bigotry, and I say this as a black person.

    • @devcron7041
      @devcron7041 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@bb-anon6746 I haven't really seen any space like that yet tbh

    • @KaiserMattTygore927
      @KaiserMattTygore927 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@devcron7041 Sadly, I have, i've literally had to leave a certian forum for the reason of having the wrongthink.
      and before you try to guess the stereotype, let me tell this:
      I am a leftist.

    • @biivamunner3122
      @biivamunner3122 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      memes are still funny

  • @Sugmatron
    @Sugmatron 3 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    So much time spent perpetuating myths about Jobs.
    He wasn't an engineer, he was a designer (who arguably stole his best designs). Apple was FAR from the first company to bring computers to the home market. XEROX brought the mouse and GUI to the home/office market FAR before apple did. You call him the greatest visionary of his time while you broadcast over a network Designed primarily by Tim Berners-Lee and functions nearly entirely off the work of Linus Torvalds and Richard Stallman.
    Is it supposed to be cyclical satire that you yourself have so clearly fallen for the propaganda and conformism that you appear to be warning of in this video?
    You use the fact that people get high all around the world as some evidence that using substances is more "human" than the thing literally created by humans.
    You try to use the fact that preliminary trials of small doses of psilocybin suggest that it could be used as an anti-depressant as a jumping point to attempt to claim psychedelics lead to some higher consciousness.
    There were about ten good minutes in the middle there, but the rest of the video is a disappointment, I love most of your work, but this really makes me question your research capabilities and biases.

    • @thealterlion7163
      @thealterlion7163 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      you're totally right. Jobs wasn't a good engineer or designer, but he was great at selling his designs.

    • @hardyzme
      @hardyzme 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Man what hasn't Linus Torvlads done. I am new to Linux and am blown away by its simplicity and consistency.To randomly find out about the creator's incredible but under-discussed contributions and achievements every now and then, is crazy. Its almost like he's the Nikola Tesla of the IT world haha

    • @myblacklab7
      @myblacklab7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Excellent comment - I agree with pretty much all of what you said.
      I know of several cases of people who used psychedelics and basically went nuts - one friend was convinced that he was the reincarnation of Jim Morrisson after talking to some lady in a chat room who said "his aura matches yours," while a couple of others renamed themselves bizarre hippy names like Astro Turfburger, and became too spaced out to be much fun for me to talk to.
      Another friend actually received disability for mental disabilities caused by LSD use - he apparently suffered auditory hallucinations permanently, among other things.

    • @ElSuperNova23
      @ElSuperNova23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@myblacklab7 You're absolutely right, psychedelics (and generally anything that significantly potentiates your brain chemistry) should not be taken uncontrolled by people with certain pre-existing conditions, whether those are diagnosed or not is irrelevant. I suppose my defense here is that whatever psychedelics your friends used exacerbated an underlying issue more than being the direct cause. All the more reason for legalization, leading to adequate controls and research.
      Glink's commentary comes off as one without any significant first hand experience with psychedelics, and used more as an convenient allegory. I say this as someone who has tried most under the sun, guided many people though their own first-time experiences and with a doctorate in organic chemistry.

    • @myblacklab7
      @myblacklab7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ElSuperNova23 How many people do you know who have been permanently altered by psychedelics? I bet the answer isn't "zero."
      Psychedelics are an attempted shortcut at enlightenment - they provide some perspective, perhaps, but everyone I know who is or has been into psychedelics is sort of a cliche of faux enlightenment, like people who took an introductory philosophy class on metaphysics and think they're privy to some grand spiritual knowledge now.
      Psychedelics are ultimately debilitating. They aren't a thing where they'll definitely screw you up for life, but they're Russian Roulette for your brain.

  • @EpicTyphlosionTV
    @EpicTyphlosionTV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Step 1: Stop using Twitter
    Step 2: Stop using Facebook
    Step 3: There is no step 3

    • @schemar17
      @schemar17 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Don't forget Instagram

    • @thatguysixx
      @thatguysixx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      So basically avoid all of social media

    • @YourFatherVEVO
      @YourFatherVEVO 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Step 3: Stop using Reddit

    • @schemar17
      @schemar17 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@thatguysixx besides youtube

    • @burtbiggum499
      @burtbiggum499 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@YourFatherVEVO Or 4chan for that matter

  • @Mr.Coffee576
    @Mr.Coffee576 3 ปีที่แล้ว +176

    You know what's the scary thing ? Ever since I bought a smartphone, I never had gone a day without the internet. I remember in the 00s, I had gone days without the internet, because back then we used data cards to recharge the net. And I as a high school kid couldn't afford to buy cards all the time. And that was okay..
    And now I would go crazy if my wifi doesn't work for a minute. I dunno if that's a bad thing.

    • @lolwhatever7307
      @lolwhatever7307 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      I once was away from internet for a 10 days. No smartphone or computer, just 10 days reading books and sleep. It was so weird, i felt absolutely disconnected from the world and i loved this. What a shame i cant really live without technologies being software engineer and musician. I wish one day i can hide in the cabin and never go back to the world

    • @plottwist1733
      @plottwist1733 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      It's having access to the internet while you're outdoors that's the problem. Personally, even when I had a smartphone, I didn't use the internet on it. I've always stuck to the old school only using the internet when I'm at home, on my PC. When I'm out and about, I don't even think about the internet. I have known people who are addicted to the internet though and they've told me that they need to use the internet, even when they're outdoors, or else they start getting anxious. It's sad that smartphones have created this mentality.

    • @joshy-noha
      @joshy-noha 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I don't really NEED the internet, and I think most people don't as well. But certain behaviors have been strengthened by apps and the like, to make it seem like you can't go without them for even a day. Like you're going to miss out on stuff. I certainly get this a lot here on TH-cam, which is probably my main source of time wasting. I watch a lot of TH-cam content and I follow really good content creators, and after a few days I feel like I need to catch up on so much stuff and that makes me want to watch as much as possible.
      I think the same goes for any other thing on the internet if you dwell on it for long enough. I think the secret is realizing that it's not really necessary, and the things you think you can't live without aren't exactly that essential.
      I probably need to manage my time spent on the internet more efficiently and start cutting out some that time wasted on mindless entertainment and read stuff or practice new skills.

    • @Mr.Coffee576
      @Mr.Coffee576 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@joshy-noha I can relate. I am big on self help and business content on TH-cam and I always get this FOMO that I need to watch the next video to make my life better. And click bait titles like "must watch" doesn't help either.

    • @StrazdasLT
      @StrazdasLT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      But why? The only time i use internet on a phone at all is when i go out of town and i just used it instead of computer, mostly for stuff like printing plane tickets and whatnot.
      Just use a desktop dude. A proper one, that you have to sit down and use it. That way youll only use it if you actually need to.

  • @hollyh443
    @hollyh443 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    “He liked repeating numbers and apparently was unaware of the devil’s number”....... suuuuuuure

  • @lebarak69
    @lebarak69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    I feel nostalgia for forums and the old internet. As a nerdy kid who loved escaping to the internet its kinda ironic how now I want to escape to reality while “normies” flooded it. Will we ever change this course or we will live in a forever hive mind of “canceling” and looking at every little thing we do?

    • @N3ONLUV
      @N3ONLUV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      This. I feel exactly this. For a while I've been reading books, getting into nature, doing puzzles, trying to cure my social anxiety... not to "prove" I'm better than anyone or anything, but just because the internet isn't what it was and just being around it (and feeling the difference) has been making me so depressed. I didn't really notice it until lockdown.
      I was only born in '01, but have older siblings and was pretty "net precocious". I really miss the old internet. This video finally helped me realise why I used to be able to surf the web for hours, and each day felt new... but now? I can barely stay online because it's so draining and upsetting. Things just feel out of place, I can't explain it.
      It's so weird trying to get offline, go outside... only to find "no one" there... so where am I supposed to go now if I want human connection?

    • @IcidLink
      @IcidLink 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just try the Mastodon that captures the Vibe of the old days quite good. Mostly nice People there not many idiots

    • @IcidLink
      @IcidLink 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@N3ONLUV Try Mastodon it’s a decentralized Social Media site by a nonprofit organization so no Ads and mostly no Hate there are a lot of nice People there

    • @MastaGambit
      @MastaGambit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@IcidLink Yeah sure, no hate... until more people start using it 😏
      isnt that the way it always goes?

    • @GodofDisco
      @GodofDisco 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@N3ONLUV You seem like an incredibly deep human. We need you. Find local community groups, they exist. They exist everywhere. I found a group of late 20 somethings who gather every week for food and activities. They're a little religious but nothing crazy. Go find a group like that, if you have good intuition you'll run into the right people.

  • @GlinkBetweenWorlds
    @GlinkBetweenWorlds  3 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    As of now, I don't take sponsors because I don't feel that compromising the video with ad reads is worth it. That being said, if you want to support my content you can become a patron ( patreon.com/glink ) or buy an original design T-shirt or poster on my teespring ( teespring.com/stores/glink ). All my social media links and the track listing is in the description. This has been a huge project of mine for months now and Im glad to finally have it out, I hope you guys enjoyed it. Planning to make more consistent and quality content in the near future, so stay tuned! Check out my discord link if you want to hang out with other glonkers discord.gg/xtwYypf
    dear future, i still believe in you

  • @XmortoxX1990
    @XmortoxX1990 3 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    This may be the dark age indeed, but the sun must set before it can rise again, so I hope one day we got another good age of the internet, and humanity as a whole.

    • @plbster
      @plbster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Internet 2 baybee

    • @DogsRNice
      @DogsRNice 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Finally someone who isn’t all pessimistic about things
      Just because the world sticks now doesn’t mean it will forever
      And really compared to the past the world sucks a lot less

    • @granda3649
      @granda3649 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@DogsRNice The world hasn't taken a toll for the worst, our outlooks have.

    • @raffandbotnik
      @raffandbotnik 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      it's impossible, the internet's being taken too seriously now

    • @XmortoxX1990
      @XmortoxX1990 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@raffandbotnik Times change, people change, mindsets change, but that take time to do. I do feel optimistic that one day we this dark game will end, but it won't be anytime soon.

  • @giserson2
    @giserson2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    >imagine using apps
    >imagine using social networks
    No but really, I dropped facebook, the only social media I used, in 2016 due to privacy concerns. Since then I keep in contact with my friends through Telegram group chats.
    Currently my disappointment in the smartphone industry has me looking at the possibilities of moving away from my phone for many reasons.
    The smartphone may be a phone, an ipod and an internet communicator, but I'm looking to split these three apart, get an old phone, a DAP and a DIY portable raspberry pi computer for my internet needs.
    Reject modernity, embrace tradition.

    • @babitz0r
      @babitz0r 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      >telegram

    • @Kevzz2srs
      @Kevzz2srs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      imagine using meme arrows

    • @Thebossstage1
      @Thebossstage1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Kevzz2srs
      Imagine calling them meme arrows instead of greentext

    • @Kevzz2srs
      @Kevzz2srs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Thebossstage1 greentext outside of the secret club

    • @giserson2
      @giserson2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@babitz0r yeah, I know, not perfect, but I couldn't find a better alternative at the time (Signal didn't have enough features) and better to have privacy by policy than none at all.

  • @dylanbisco8978
    @dylanbisco8978 3 ปีที่แล้ว +125

    This video was literally a masterpiece. Your finest video yet

    • @GlinkBetweenWorlds
      @GlinkBetweenWorlds  3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Appreciate that, I pushed myself to make something I can be proud of and more importantly to have an impact on people. Seeing comments like this brightens my day.

    • @axelnick1
      @axelnick1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GlinkBetweenWorlds okay so you spread a message, which is a good thing. We do have a problem. But how do we solve this problem? There should be a place to think about this problem. What if we had a moderated discord or forum somewhere where people could post ideas. You could pin good idea's and then maybe people could add their opinion on it.
      We can do anything as humans, we are very smart. We just need good teamwork. And that's something we don't have on the internet. We have random idea's, often very good, thrown in the huge sea of youtube or tiktok or whatever. But we never truly think together about this idea. For example, you have an amazing video about a huge issue, I think about it later today and then I just forget about it. But if we had a focused group thinking about the idea, maybe we could find a solution, together.

    • @BDbiogamer
      @BDbiogamer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GlinkBetweenWorlds I may just be one, "currently barely getting by financially so not even a patron" voice among the masses, but I'm HARD seconding the above comment; this video really did have an impact on me.
      The line you drew along psychadelics and their public perception was itself sort of an epiphany for me. I have been wanting to try psylocibin for a few years now, and am borderline infuriated by my lack of connections allowing me to do so. Not saying you were wanting the ultimate takeaway here to be "get out there and take shrooms, kids," but that part specifically really tied it all together for me. Jobs may never have had a fraction of the impact he did if not for his own experience with psychadelics. I can't even begin to imagine the possibilities if it were to become more accessible for people like me, who see what Apple and companies like them have become and how they have utterly ruined so many aspects of our lives, and tricked so many into going along with it.
      As for me, I have no idea what my options are, but you have inspired me to try a whole lot harder to find my own solution to these problems. If there is indeed a light in this darkness, I intend to find it and share it with as many people as I possibly can.

    • @sawedoffshottyshane9637
      @sawedoffshottyshane9637 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GlinkBetweenWorlds keep it up 👍🏽

  • @amboyman
    @amboyman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is so sad how much I missed and how much is gone/changed
    I remember 2007 when I came from kindergarten an my brother was born (yes I remember that day and I was just 4-5 yo wow) and then first Apple phone was released , but I didn't knew abaut Apple, internet , and much more for years , I started to learn just years later from browser games to what I know now just how much has changed since then and I have that weird feeling that progress has some dark sides of many aspects we face today and thats mind breaking and sad
    Thanks for such interesting video !

  • @Auxytocin
    @Auxytocin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    It's both collective and individual. The glorified illusion of self - provided by the artificial window into their lives - becomes a means by which they can no longer foster an identity of their own. At the same time, people are overly concerned with being a unique individual. Our society rewards it.

  • @timothyhilditch
    @timothyhilditch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +190

    Good stuff, two things I disagree with though. Steve Jobs was a visionary but you have given him too much credit. Steve Wosniak did the hard tech work and lots of unnamed employees.
    Psychedelics aren't the way out. It is the search for wisdom and truth. This video can provide all the wisdom and truth and even part of the trip.
    Steve jobs btw was mad, the reason why he took so long to get treatment for cancer, was because he thought his spirituality would cure him. He didn't trust doctors.
    Overall great video, and I hope more people will see it and wake up from this madness.

    • @ZacharyShuster
      @ZacharyShuster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      agreed. It's worth mentioning that out of the hippie movement came more devoted spirituality like the Jesus movement. In many cases, hippie experimentation simply acted as a prompt for people to seek truth and wisdom.

    • @GlinkBetweenWorlds
      @GlinkBetweenWorlds  3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      Fair enough. Of course I didn't include every aspect of Steve Jobs in this. I dont expect everyone to fully agree with my perspective, or else it wouldn't be mine!

    • @timothyhilditch
      @timothyhilditch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      @@GlinkBetweenWorlds Thanks Glink, it is important to maintain individualism like you point out in this video. Everyone should have disagreements or else we will be conforming into a hive mind.

    • @mrjanoycresva
      @mrjanoycresva 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This stuff is common knowledge at this point. It wouldn't add anything of relevance to the point the video was making.

    • @tigerfestivals5137
      @tigerfestivals5137 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yeah the psychedelics point kinda came out of left field

  • @Ratnoseterry
    @Ratnoseterry 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Bill Gates: "Steve Jobs was like a wizard" "You could see him casting spells."
    This video: Jobs took acid and went on a spiritual journey in the middle east *holds apple*

  • @AW-wg5zp
    @AW-wg5zp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    YES! Glink delivers once more!

  • @pawelovski
    @pawelovski 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I rarely ever leave comments on videos. Your documentaries are always good, but I find this one really thought provoking and inspiring. This has to be your best video to date. Thank you for making this.

    • @GlinkBetweenWorlds
      @GlinkBetweenWorlds  3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I don’t always respond to comments but I do read them, so thank you for commenting and Im glad you enjoyed it!

  • @DingDung420
    @DingDung420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    i feel like you're giving Jobs a little too much credit

  • @chitocovers3765
    @chitocovers3765 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    You went from following trends to creating mini documentaries, love you Glink

    • @ivan12392
      @ivan12392 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He was never following trends.

    • @omeroner1192
      @omeroner1192 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He is the trend.

  • @DeadSpectre329
    @DeadSpectre329 3 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    In short; we were all sold a dream, but the end-product wounded up being a nightmare.
    A cyber-futuristic nightmare, minus the cool futuristic stuff, and more surveillance, control, limited freedoms, coated with brief distracting euphoria.
    Lovely video upload, no less, Glink!

    • @axelnick1
      @axelnick1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Don't be too pessimistic about it. You can always just not use the apps. Use them however you want.

    • @ramontavaresdacruz2256
      @ramontavaresdacruz2256 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@axelnick1 The problem with that is regardless of me not using, everyone else who I talk to use it. Even if I'm not exposed to a certain kind of culture, if everyone I know is then not that much really change, except for me.

    • @plottwist1733
      @plottwist1733 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ramontavaresdacruz2256 Yeah, that's why I don't talk to many people in my own age group. I know they get a bad rap, but I get along best with boomers, especially biker boomers, because most of them are totally disconnected from today's popular culture.

  • @eventerminator1382
    @eventerminator1382 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Even though I was not old enough to talk on those old forums. I still miss the feeling of the old internet. I still remembers the hours I spend playing flash games on those dodgy websites and watching TH-cam videos in 144p. TH-cam was so different in the early 2000’s.

    • @WAncouvOR
      @WAncouvOR 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      TH-cam didn't exist untill 2005 when it was a dating site. What are you talking about?

    • @eventerminator1382
      @eventerminator1382 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WAncouvOR Around the time of 2007 to 2009 is what I meant.

  • @Alex13501
    @Alex13501 3 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    I guess its no accident that "return to monke" meme is getting so strong now : )

    • @violenceisfun991
      @violenceisfun991 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      You get the tallest guy you can find, i'll get the tallest woman i can find and then let's make them fight in a shopping centre. Who ever wins gets to keep their fingers

    • @Alex13501
      @Alex13501 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@violenceisfun991 name checks out

    • @KaiserMattTygore927
      @KaiserMattTygore927 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@violenceisfun991 I like the way you think >:)

    • @biivamunner3122
      @biivamunner3122 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@violenceisfun991 what the hell

  • @duck8280
    @duck8280 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    This makes so much sense. Being 23 the computer is the most important thing to me. It's more boring, frustrating, and lacks that creativity/ingenuity that it once had. I purchased a new sports car so I could travel around and go outside, and return to monke.

    • @HaohmaruHL
      @HaohmaruHL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Purchasing a sports car at 23? Are you frok united arab emirates?

    • @Sean-ct8cv
      @Sean-ct8cv 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That supra yours? XD

    • @duck8280
      @duck8280 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Sean-ct8cv yeah I have a 2020 red supra :D

    • @duck8280
      @duck8280 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HaohmaruHL from the US, wisconsin

    • @Sean-ct8cv
      @Sean-ct8cv 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@duck8280 wow good stuff ^_^

  • @f3ryx
    @f3ryx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Is this how normie zoomers view the rise of the data saturation age? You spent so much time overselling Apples connection to a much more complex and nuanced issue, you failed to make any greater claims about how we as humans interact with technology and how it affects our psyche. This videos poor quality is literally an example of how shit the internet is now.

    • @funnelvortex7722
      @funnelvortex7722 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It really comes across as more of a millennial viewpoint than a zoomer viewpoint. Zoomers either shill for the current state of the Internet or don't acknowledge it because all they know is the smartphone era of the Internet.

    • @Sodoffshotgun
      @Sodoffshotgun 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Queensryche IMI if I'm not mistaken

    • @austinreed7343
      @austinreed7343 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you have anything else to provide?

    • @professional.commentator
      @professional.commentator 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@funnelvortex7722 And then there's us Zillennials who were too young to experience the 2000s internet for the most part but too old to care about TikTok.

    • @christianknuchel
      @christianknuchel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Do we really need to do all that age separation stuff? o.o

  • @jaybones8457
    @jaybones8457 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Impressive stuff. One guy (I assume) is able to cram more creativity into 40 minutes than most TV networks manage in months.

    • @gabrielladiaz6933
      @gabrielladiaz6933 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right! It’s like a sociology lecture but it’s visually interesting and well written and edited..his voice is pleasant..

  • @lolaa6971
    @lolaa6971 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    This is exactly the train of thought that I have worried about. And I only seeing it getting worse. I’m not exactly sure how it will get better, technology was created for freedom, and now it’s taking it away. I’m glad I grew up in the 90s and experienced the Internet while it was still new.

    • @dividedstatesofamerica2520
      @dividedstatesofamerica2520 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I wish I grew up in a time where this piece of shit internet wasn't around in the first place.

    • @lolaa6971
      @lolaa6971 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@dividedstatesofamerica2520 it sounds crazy but I wish I was born in the mid 40s, I feel like they were the last generation to live freely (in England anyway). There was the hope after the war. The way that England pulled together during the blitz is crazy when you compare it to how people have complained through lockdown.

    • @johnchrysler5122
      @johnchrysler5122 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@lolaa6971 Word up.

    • @StrazdasLT
      @StrazdasLT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lolaa6971 Nah, you would have spent your best years in the thatcher era hell.

    • @MastaGambit
      @MastaGambit 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StrazdasLT THANK YOU
      GOD i'm so sick and tired of all these know-nothings around here acting like they were born in the wrong generation or some shit

  • @LeeLloyd
    @LeeLloyd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    It's an interesting video, and I think you reach a lot of insightful conclusions, but your hagiographic view of Apple, combined with getting the events quite out of sequence at times, ends up giving Apple both too much credit and blame. Oddly, you are railing against consumerism, while accepting Apple's marketing messages of the past as inspirational messages of almost divine purpose, rather than a cynical way to get a well-heeled demographic to feel they are special because they bought a product. If you really want to understand how things got to where they are, I would spend less time idolizing Steve Jobs and Apple, and look more into B. F. Skinner, the Stanford Persuasive Technology Lab, and Sheryl Sandberg.

    • @Fiufia
      @Fiufia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The old message could be inspirational but don't forget it was just an add to sell a product Steve jobs has always been in favor of proprietary things like software this is the reason he got fired for apple. (or put aside whatever you want to call it) after having a big disagreement with John sculley that was in favor of open architecture
      The only time he gave up this mentality were when he went back to apple a few years later and microsoft made an investment of 150 million on apple but as we all know it didn't last long.

  • @thestrigshow
    @thestrigshow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Here's something I find interesting: you said that people forgot just the third "I", for Idealism. But I think we also forgot the first "I", for Individualism, as well.
    Both Idealism and Realism can be dangerous if they aren't balanced out by the other. If there's no idealism, we go into conformity, but if there's no realism, we start living in our own fantasy bubbles outside of real world logic. And almost paradoxically, both things seem to be happening at once.
    This is where individualism should come in: "true" idealism can't just be manufactured by a company or movement, it starts from individuals. All of the examples shown in that Apple commercial were, before anything else, people. Even this whole capitalization on "thinking differently" ultimately came from Steve Jobs.
    I do agree that we have lost the I for idealism, but we do have the illusion of Idealism, and that's thanks to the lack of Individualism.
    (Gee, this response seemed smaller in my head lol)

  • @misanthropicservitorofmars2116
    @misanthropicservitorofmars2116 3 ปีที่แล้ว +120

    Psychedelics also create boundaries and ritual. Thing is, it’s a natural part of humanity. Ritualistic psychedelic use gets institutionalized in human cultures. It’s strange, the hippies probably felt they were finding something new and amazing. When in reality, they were rediscovering it. Monthly gatherings where shamans moderate psychedelic consumption. Allows people to connect to eachother and share their perspectives. Thus, solidifying cultures, boundaries, and beliefs.

    • @cultofthevoid5677
      @cultofthevoid5677 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      A culture based around the free consumption of psychedelics still sounds better than our current culture based upon prohibition and control.

    • @phosphenevision
      @phosphenevision 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@cultofthevoid5677 every culture tends to encourage and discourage certain things, the point is why. Why is alcohol and coffee so ingrained in our society while psychedelics aren't? It's because one is less interesting for the goals and objectives of our society, coffee helps wake up at certain times focus on work, alcohol helps you forget about your problems for a moment and socialize, but psychedelics make you reevaluate your own goals, detaching you from the work-consume cycle, not that it can't be productive, but our society is still focused on creating and maintaining worker-bees since pretty much the advent of schooling, and psychedelics present themselves as opposite of those goals. If our society's main goal was actually the well being of individuals in the society, we most certainly wouldn't have a culture so focused on alcohol consumption rituals, one of the most destructive and easy to over consume drugs out there.

    • @MnemonicHeadTrip
      @MnemonicHeadTrip 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @ayy lmao I wouldn’t go as far as to say psychedelics are essential and a human right, but I will say that it’s a human right to be able to consume them as you wish. The government should not be able to dictate what I can and can’t do with my mind and my body. I’m not even particularly progressive overall, I just think this is so obvious and so ridiculous.

  • @soapy6
    @soapy6 3 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    one small note. Steve Jobs called his adoptive parents his real parents because they were his real parents. raising a child is what qualifies someone as a parent not necessarily just biology.

  • @-EndlessHorizon
    @-EndlessHorizon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    I hope their logos imagery is not lost on some people its an apple from the garden of Eden after Eve had taken a bite. Its also interesting they use the rainbow in the apple as that was universally known to represent gods grace unlike now a days where is represents gay pride. Also interesting it sold for 666.66 dollars. Make of that what you will but Silicon Valley does have a reputation for these kinds of things. Whether it was intentional or not its a fascinating idea.

    • @GlinkBetweenWorlds
      @GlinkBetweenWorlds  3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Maybe ill be called crazy, but Im fascinated by the idea that the events of the bible are a template of events in history that replay themselves in various ways throughout time

    • @NajwaLaylah
      @NajwaLaylah 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Odd how one hears different stories to explain the same phenomena. I heard it was the apple that put Snow White in the glass box, and that the rainbow was a subtle indication of unashamed homosexuality, and that both of those symbols related to Alan Turing and his demise.

    • @chaotixthefox
      @chaotixthefox 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@NajwaLaylah Simple fact is the rainbow wasn't associated with gays at the time. That's a very contemporary development.

    • @hutt1936
      @hutt1936 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's wrong. That garden of eden imagery is a coincedence along with "representing god's grace" and other theories after a quick google search. Rob Janoff who created apple logos (besides the 1st logo designed by Ronald Wayne) dismisses these theories -check CNN link 7th paragraph. The articles "Apple Logo Evolution - It all Started With a Fruit" by The Logo Creative and "Did Alan Turing Inspire the Apple Logo?" by Stacy Conradt at Mental Floss and "Unraveling the tale behind the Apple logo" by Holden Frith at CNN explain the origins and other theories. The apple logo is simplistic because Steve Jobs wanted a new logo that could be recognised when it was small unlike the previous 1976 Isaac Newton logo. "The Apple II was the first home or personal computer that could reproduce images on the monitor in color. So it represents color bars on the screen." - explaining why the 1977 logo had stripes on it.
      thelogocreative.medium.com/apple-logo-evolution-it-all-started-with-a-fruit-e976427f5292#:~:text=The%20first%20logo%20was%20created,with%20his%20discoveries%20on%20gravity
      www.mentalfloss.com/article/64049/did-alan-turing-inspire-apple-logo
      edition.cnn.com/2011/10/06/opinion/apple-logo/index.html
      This was to not spread any misconceptions. Have a good day:)

    • @GodOfOrphans
      @GodOfOrphans 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think it might be a collective unconscious thing.

  • @ZeeVolte
    @ZeeVolte 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    With this channel I always know if he doesn't post in a while, something good is being worked on

  • @juan-mw2wv
    @juan-mw2wv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    When I saw early newground oh boy the nostalgia hit me

  • @KevinoftheCosmos
    @KevinoftheCosmos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Don't be mistaken. The name Apple was a reference to the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. The garden of eden, adam and eve.

    • @TissuePapery
      @TissuePapery 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It could be a reference to his all fruit diet as apple is usually the first fruit to come to mind when thinking of fruits

    • @lorenzocardenas5071
      @lorenzocardenas5071 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes just look at the logo... closely...

  • @Megsducks
    @Megsducks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was worried I was the only one who noticed this. The internet used to be magical and endlessly fun. One hour on the internet used to mean I would visit so many different websites, deviantart to look at art, oekakis to draw and share my art, neopets, Gaia, ... now I can’t find anything to entertain me for longer than a few minutes. There’s just little to do online on desktop these days.

    • @fenn_fren
      @fenn_fren 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Most of my internet usage is either TH-cam or browsing through Wikipedia. I remember say a decade ago where there was much more to do than there is now. Sad to see it all mostly gone.

  • @TheEmilyMonster
    @TheEmilyMonster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Glink seems like such a cool friend to have who you can talk to about life for hours upon hours

    • @GlinkBetweenWorlds
      @GlinkBetweenWorlds  3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      thats my favorite thing to do

    • @tehparol
      @tehparol 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Where do I find like minded people. I'm tired of being alone.

    • @TheEmilyMonster
      @TheEmilyMonster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tehparol same. I quite literally don't have any real friends. And this covid situation just made it worse.

    • @VinceVintage
      @VinceVintage 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tehparol join Glinks Discord!

  • @dashampootester1274
    @dashampootester1274 3 ปีที่แล้ว +213

    Standing in front of a green screen like that is asking to be made into a meme

    • @goldeneaglereborn
      @goldeneaglereborn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Not really

    • @jameskelly7403
      @jameskelly7403 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah uhh not really asking idk what you meant by this comment

    • @rodrigoalves-cg6xv
      @rodrigoalves-cg6xv 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice job missing the point of the video

  • @tenminutetokyo2643
    @tenminutetokyo2643 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Oddly, the internet and PCs are slowly becoming the ultimate central control system - the opposite of the ideals Apple was founded on.

    • @happysmash27
      @happysmash27 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      PCs are still mostly fine and free. It's all categories of devices other than PCs, that have a more casual audience than them, that have been getting more and more controlled and constrictive.

    • @kylehill3643
      @kylehill3643 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@happysmash27 But it has still spilled over. I can't get half my old games to run even via emulators it's a big pain. For example Zoombini's Mountain Rescue no longer works and it did a year ago. On Dad's AMD computer it still works so obviously something to do with Intel changes going on. Intel has been in a LOT of trouble after major F'[ks which they got caught in.

  • @misterkefir
    @misterkefir 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Been waiting for something from you for a while! This is just perfect, thank you very much.
    Brilliant video as always.

  • @KosmosDream
    @KosmosDream 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    This was just as eye opening as your Golden Age of the Internet video. I too remember the iMac computers in my elementary schools and post 2009 feeling of “life isn’t the same anymore” feeling when the golden age came to an end. You’re on to something bro.

    • @StrazdasLT
      @StrazdasLT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      so youre one of the folks who peaked in highschool?

    • @kylehill3643
      @kylehill3643 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It seemed we were reaching a higher collectivism in the mid to late 90s. It feels society could NOT fall save an intergalactic event we had no way to control. The terrorism attacks of the late 90s should've been a wake up call.

    • @user-vi4xy1jw7e
      @user-vi4xy1jw7e 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StrazdasLT sounds like it

    • @user-vi4xy1jw7e
      @user-vi4xy1jw7e 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kylehill3643 lol. Collectivism? In what country? America? Lololol

  • @Blackgriffonphoenixg
    @Blackgriffonphoenixg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The fact that so many apps that allow for NSFW personal expression are being banned on iOS devices, as if sterilizing anything risqué, is pretty telling, too.

  • @SuperFireTowerGaming
    @SuperFireTowerGaming 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Your channel is moving in a cool direction, an odd mix of well researched topics and derpy video editing combined with nostalgic video game music. I personally really enjoy the videos man! Thanks for making them.

    • @StrazdasLT
      @StrazdasLT 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not well researched though, at least not the Steve Jobs bit.

    • @SuperFireTowerGaming
      @SuperFireTowerGaming 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StrazdasLT care to explain?

  • @ausername1761
    @ausername1761 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    The IPhone is the forbidden fruit of the tech garden of eden. It offered infinite knowledge and prosperity. We took a bite, and we gained the knowledge that there is no true prosperity, and now we will suffer for millennia to come.

    • @adosoyado655
      @adosoyado655 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      underrated comment!

    • @plebisMaximus
      @plebisMaximus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Let's hope we get a tech Jesus to save us from the situation we put ourselves in.

    • @StrazdasLT
      @StrazdasLT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you know some sects of christianity claim that god promised to redeem adam and eve after 5500 years. The coming of Jesus Christ was supposed to be that making the planet 7500 years old.

    • @N3ONLUV
      @N3ONLUV 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StrazdasLT I did not know this

    • @N3ONLUV
      @N3ONLUV 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StrazdasLT I feel like I'm stalking you through this thread, sorry guy

  • @admg2005
    @admg2005 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this quality is so good, it should be on some TV history channel or a streaming service!

  • @Nutticus
    @Nutticus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    I liked your use of the mouse-utopia visuals, i've been looking at society in recent years and begun to realize how much of a mouse-utopia the digital age really is.

    • @GlinkBetweenWorlds
      @GlinkBetweenWorlds  3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      I instantly thought of the parallels to society after learning about the mouse utopia experiments, creepy perspective

  • @danielsjohnson
    @danielsjohnson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    For anyone wondering, the anime scenes were from "Serial Experiments Lain". That was an appropriate choice for this video.

    • @N3ONLUV
      @N3ONLUV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I think I saw some Stein's Gate too :3

    • @ndrechtseiter
      @ndrechtseiter 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@N3ONLUV yeah, with John Titor

  • @laxshmaanbalakrishnan8434
    @laxshmaanbalakrishnan8434 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This was truly remarkable! I enjoyed every bit of this! Thank you for crafting videos with purpose and meaning. Thank you 🙏🏼

  • @ekszentrik
    @ekszentrik 3 ปีที่แล้ว +136

    Steve Jobs was the greatest MARKETER of this time. Fixed your script.

    • @jonnyvelocity
      @jonnyvelocity 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Yeah, he really marketed the stuff other companies created so well.

    • @MastaGambit
      @MastaGambit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      If we're really going to argue who was better at MARKETING, you'd be fucking ignorant not to say Gates. Gates and Jobs practically did the same fucking thing, just in different ways, and one of them was just more haughty and stuck-up about it than the other. In reality they were both jackasses.

    • @aestheticjedi1868
      @aestheticjedi1868 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      ​@@MastaGambit One died with a legacy, the other ruined his own legacy by being a hypocrite at most of his statements.

  • @may-ky2nk
    @may-ky2nk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Haven't even finished this video yet and I already know its great

  • @blankspace0000
    @blankspace0000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I would like to be able to say "a good artist never blames their tools" but unfortunately our modern social tools are themselves built with a perverse incentive. That is the primary issue which needs to be addressed imo.

  • @HazeVcasual
    @HazeVcasual 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The windows 96 soundtrack ... goes so perfectly well with your documentary. Along with perfect edits and your story telling makes this piece of media truly remarkable. Thank you!

  • @omgstoptakingnames
    @omgstoptakingnames 3 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    in my day, people like me would use the internet as an escape from the bullies and the normies but these days they are all online; and now i use reality as an escape from society specially social media.

    • @name347
      @name347 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      I was in much the same boat growing up.
      It's strange how quickly stuff like being a 'nerd' or recluse went from making you the laughing stock to becoming the norm and touted as "relatable".
      The internet wasn't as friendly back then - TH-cam comments literally being deemed the scum of the earth - but it doesn't seem like the price paid for the inclusivity was worth it.

    • @whatdown5291
      @whatdown5291 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@name347 Yep.
      If you accept everyone, this "everyone" is going to throw you out, directly or indirectly.

    • @dividedstatesofamerica2520
      @dividedstatesofamerica2520 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@name347 It is still the pond scum of the earth. Well not quite bad as 4chan, but still pretty bad.

    • @StrazdasLT
      @StrazdasLT 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@name347 People who think nerds are "relatable" dont actually know what the word means.

    • @user-iz4tg4fz8b
      @user-iz4tg4fz8b 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's interesting to see so many things boomerang back. Even things I was made fun of in the late 2000s/early 2010s have became oddly really mainstreamed. Sometimes i dont really know how to take it, if it's good that people, for example anime, are able to be more open to different forms of media, or if its just all becoming some big sludge pile of entertainment we consume so rapidly through and tear at. The way alternative styles of fashion I see online after years of refreshing tags and still getting things from the mid 2000s to this resurgence of certain keywords. It seems like everything just is used over and over again, or maybe now there is a want to be different, even in the face of conformity and driving the 'herd' forward in your difference.

  • @liamjones454
    @liamjones454 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This video essay completely sums up what I have been trying to figure out in my own head for a very long time, especially after my own experiences with psychedelics, coding, and art. Great job, I hope this video can be looked back on in the future as a precursor to the new "renaissance" esque era.

  • @francescofulghieri9608
    @francescofulghieri9608 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    every invention that is at first an extreme convenience quickly becomes an extreme necessity

  • @nerosmith2578
    @nerosmith2578 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I laughed hard when he started talking about psychedelics as a way of "returning" to humanity, the music made it particularly manipulative. As someone who grew amongst braindead hippies who love them; I can confirm they rot your brain just as much as Tiktok.

    • @dividedstatesofamerica2520
      @dividedstatesofamerica2520 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That's why I hated the psychedelic angle in this video. I can't stand those insufferable hippies.

    • @N3ONLUV
      @N3ONLUV 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I like this comment

    • @vi0let831
      @vi0let831 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yeah, I could never get into psychedlics, one because I was born very premature and it would absolutely wreck my health, and two, I have mental health issues already and it would most likely exacerbate that. So yeah, no, drugs aren't for me. Probably not even weed. As tough as it is and as much as it hurts, I'd rather face the world and my problems sober. I don't want to cower away from them and end up creating more problems for myself by using them like so many of my family members have. I know not all drugs will lead you to get addicted to them, but there are so many people who end up severely addicted to them, and despite certain drugs having medical or mental benefits sometimes, I feel like mostly it's just a way to escape your problems. I'd rather not do that, I've got enough problems as it is.

    • @isetmfriendsofire
      @isetmfriendsofire 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There were a lot of "hippies" who acted like they were part of the scene, but they really just used it for "grass & ass".

    • @iksskan9147
      @iksskan9147 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am not really pro psychedelics exactly, I would rather want people to try it atleast one or two times, but even with this mindset, it was a honestly bad part of the videos imo.

  • @chennis134
    @chennis134 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm a high school teacher and today we were doing PSAT testing for freshmen to juniors. We had the students in our room put their phones in ziploc bags, which we then placed on a teacher's desk at the front. I commented later with the other teacher in the room that "every phone looks the same: same dimensions, all smartphones". We talked about how we used to have a variety in phones: flip phones, blackberries, sidekicks etc...

    • @mikoi7472
      @mikoi7472 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Almost like we've found a pretty ideal shape that the majority of the general consumers want to buy. You realize these things go through millions of dollars invested in focus groups to see how people will react and buy them right?

    • @funnelvortex7722
      @funnelvortex7722 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's typical NoCal gentrified minimalist hipster bullshit, it's cheap to mass produce but you can charge more for it as long as you convince the normies it's some sleek space age shit.

    • @mikoi7472
      @mikoi7472 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@funnelvortex7722 or again. These things have been through multiple millions of dollars in focus group testing, engineering, and marketing each. They aren't making 10,000% profit margins on these things. And reeeing about the normies bying a useful product is pretty dumb.

  • @soveu8237
    @soveu8237 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Kinda offtopic - lets not forget about Dennis Ritchie, who died the same week as Jobs, but nobody heard about him. Unix and C, to this day, heavily influences how we program computers

    • @plebisMaximus
      @plebisMaximus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      One of the fathers of modern computing, he mustn't be forgotten.

  • @jacob9673
    @jacob9673 3 ปีที่แล้ว +125

    “Greatest inventor of his time”
    It was Steve Wozniak, not Steve Jobs. Lmao. He had little to no engineering experience. Don’t call him an engineer, he was a salesperson.

    • @StrazdasLT
      @StrazdasLT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      this video could have really done without the Jobs propaganda in the first half.

    • @houseofvenusMD
      @houseofvenusMD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      That's like saying Christianity was invented by Emperor Constantine and not Jesus Christ. It is technically true but extremely ignorant of the reality of how big ideas stick...they need a great salesperson. Sometimes the engineer is also a good salesperson (e.g. Bill Gates) but not always. Branding is everything.

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      @houseofvenusMD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@JohnDoe-jk3vv It's OK if it's bad, as long as it is *true* . Delivery can always be improved. Truth is eternal. Branding matters more than substance when it comes to popular acceptance unfortunately --whether it be religion or technology.

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      @houseofvenusMD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@JohnDoe-jk3vv That is a terrible straw man! If you reread my statement you will see that I am comparing the *adoption of Christianity by a mass audience* to the *adoption of Apple technology by a mass audience* . What is being compared is how people accept the products of both institutions, not the institutions themselves! Jesus Christ and his disciples created the tenets of the religion yet it required a Roman Emperor to indoctrinate all of his subjects and consequently the rest of Europe for centuries to come. The Early Christians did not even refer to themselves as Christian--it was the Roman outsiders who did! Likewise: Wozniak created the Macintosh. If you know the story well you would know that he did not want to sell his invention! He did not even want to quit his job at Hewlett-Packard! He tried to sell the invention to his bosses at HP so that he could keep working there and they found it to be useless. Steve Jobs convinced him otherwise and forced him to quit to focus on building computers full time. That is the reality of popular adoption.

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      @houseofvenusMD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@JohnDoe-jk3vv As an engineer I hear you and have to say you are wrong. Every patent office (in a developed nation at least) makes a distinction between utility and design patents, ie you can be an inventor if you engineered something new (utility) or you can be an inventor if you created a new brand or look (design). You can bet Wozniak's name is on the utility patents for his inventions but the design and branding of the Macintosh belongs to Jobs! It sounds mean, especially coming from an engineer's perspective, but that's reality. It has been that way since the inception of the US Patent Office and many other similar institutions around the world. Another note: science and discovery are ultimately about communication. It doesn't matter if you independently discovered calculus before Newton if nobody knew about it (wink wink Leibniz). Of course that's not a perfect example because Leibniz's notation is more widely used today but still -- the people that can convey and disseminate an idea are as important if not more so than those who serialize it in a process or product. As engineers we tend to believe *engineer* and *inventor* are synonyms when they are not. One is a "constructor of engines" the other literally denotes a "discoverer" or someone who "makes up things others have not". Da Vinci never even attempted to create most of his inventions and yet... It may suck to say it but Steve Jobs was an inventor, just not an engineer. Wozniak was both.