✍️ "DEBUNK" RESPONSE 🥩 www.patreon.com/posts/51285771 📑 (PDF) to the youtuber "Earthling Ed" 's attempt at "debunking" this video. ✍️Here is my reply to another one: www.patreon.com/posts/50919460 I'll get to the other "debunkings" as I have time. 🌎The discussion with Dr. Mitloehner was immensely helpful but for those of you worried that I'm relying on one source: plenty of research was done before and after our conversation. I double checked all of his points and they are all backed up by research that is not his own. (All sources are in the description.) 🐄This video is talking about conventional beef, *not* grass fed beef. 🥩There's actually still a ton more to talk about that couldn't fit in this video, how many of you guys would like to see another video expanding on this topic? [SUBTÍTULOS EN ESPAÑOL]
Srsly thank you so much, I had such a terrible perception toward the meat industry till now because of all the false media. I wonder why they'd share such nonsense to begin with? 🤔 Conspiracyyyyyy
Yeah i agree, i feel as though the people who are watching this are only taking away the fact that it’s ok to eat meat because of the reasons he discussed, but aren’t acknowledging the fact that stuff like animal abuse is a prevailing reason why a lot of people don’t eat meat.
Underrated point, I honestly hate it whenever something gets wasted in my house. That being said it's minimal compared to what I've seen other people do.
@twentyfivekgplants tomake1kgbeef Neither of those videos are credible responses, lmao. Just a bunch of triggered vegans bitching about his video and cherry picking certain parts they want to comment on.
I work at a brazilian restaurant with an all you can eat buffet and the amount of food people throw away is insane. Clients that don't throw any food away are rare, while families with little kids are the worst they get extra plates full of food and always say stuff like "you know how children are! They eat with their eyes!". I grew up hating wasting food and there's so many ways to recycle leftovers too
When I'm at a restaurant and have leftovers I always ask if they can be wrapped, so I can eat it later at home. I went eating with friends once and did that and when we walked outside they said it was embarrassing. I really don't understand why...it was a delicious small portion of chinese noodles, why should that go to the garage bin and I don't understand why was that embarrassing for them? I asked for my food to be packed, not theirs....I never went to a restaurant with them after that since I'm "embarrassing"
@@obnoxious_alien it depends on the type of restaurant, in most restaurants that's perfectly fine but in an all you can eat restaurant you literally can't do doggy bags. Because the whole point of an all you can eat restaurant is that you eat as much as you can in one sitting for a fixed price so packaging leftovers is not economically viable because everyone could pack a whole meal to take home
@@bobrianfo104 Yeah you're right. I should have clarified that it wasn't a all you can eat, I definitely wouldn't do that. I always but a little less on my plate when I'm attending one just to make sure I don't grab stuff that will be thrown out.
See, I prefer all you can eats, because I can portion size for myself, and actually finish my meal! Restaurants usually pile so much onto the plate, there's no way I can finish it, and a bunch gets wasted. But the people who pile high and they know they won't finish it bother me so much!
@@Anna-ln7hl Sheesh, just gonna make that post with no supporting evidence? He actually took time to research this video, but let's all just agree with your 2 sentences backed by nothing.
I wholeheartedly agree with that. We definitely can't blame the meat industries alone for many issues. Though I still have concerns reguarding their involvement in land and water polulation with animal waste. Their management of animal waste is largely questionable.
@@analyticofexistance7847Does that not get spread as a natural fertiliser on ploughed fields? Saving the planet from pollution, deforestation and exploitation of other species for food and profit is fast becoming too late to stop melting of the polar ice and the subsequent rapid rise in sea levels.
It's a shame that the only ones who can change it relatively easily are greedy, old degenerates who couldn't care less about the planet. They won't be around for it, so why would they care? Empathy? They don't have that.
They will believe anything if it means they aren't the lone wolf that gets rejected. It's actually an age old form of mind control that they are under.
Actually they do in India. Animal agriculture is responsible for the explosion of livestock population. Entire fresh water ponds are used to bath cows and buffaloes. India is also the largest exporter of beef, so technically you guys are responsible for it, because you buy it.
As a vegetation whose primary motivation is not environmental reasons, I found this very interesting. I would be choosing this diet with or without the perceived environmental benefit but I always wondered why some people make such a big deal about cow farts. I truly feel like big corporate polluters are trying to deflect the blame
I wish more people were like this! I choose to eat organic produce whenever possible not because it gives me any better nutrition, but strictly for the environmental reasons. That doesn't mean I bike 100 miles to work every morning just to save some gas!
Bro he only considered the environmental impact of meat&dairy, what about turning animals who doesn't want to get killed into livestock & commercialized. Human meat also is very nutritious so why dont we commercialized humans into food & keep them in small cages.
This is why I hate wasting food with a passion. Whenever I am forced to discard spoiled food or a meal I can't finish or store as a leftover I feel like I've committed a heinous crime.
Take it from someone working retail, what we really need to stop is excessive packaging of goods. Do you have any idea how many Hangers get thrown away every year? Any idea at all? I don't even know how many I throw out myself, I lost count, it's maddening. Society is constantly looking for ways to blame the individual for the fault of corporate producers
The individual is not only blamed for the fault of corporate producers, but also in order to cover the excesses from the wealthiest 0,1% (who casually tend to be the owners of such corporations).
The water argument is one of the dumbest ones. Cows literally just drink rainwater them pee it out a couple hours later. It’s not like they’re holding on to thousands of gallons of water forever.
It's no use, their brains don't function well enough to stop imagining cows as containing some sort of a black hole that sucks up water irreversibly. A cow ultimately holds on to no more water than the margin between the dry mass of its organism and its total body mass at any given moment. The rest of the water that they need to live is excreted and reabsorbed into the ecosystem along with the fertilizing metabolites the plants need. (Spoiler : plants hold on to water too. Their inedible parts hold on to water too.)
"1/3 of all produced food is wasted" That shocked me on a whole other level. Edit: apparently some people wonder why it shocked me and why I didn't know that......
well to be fair we need at least a little bit 2 much food because that means everybody has 100% of what he needs. if we wouldnt have leftovers it means someone has to starve. but we definately can help reducing the amount of waste so that we get as close to the 100% as possible.
@@aleksa280 yeah it sucks but honestly im not sure if theres even a way to use the overproduction to help these ppl. id wish everybodys happy but things are so damn complicated. like how we need to overproduce but we cant ship that then to those hungry since it would just rot on the way. but one way to reduce the waste and help ppl is already used in germany. we call it the "tafel". ppl with few money get the allowance to get there food. for most part its food that would have been thrown away because its not "perfect" or food that has been donated. they just have to pay like 2€ and get a share of that food. so depending on how much food there is they get a big bag or even more.
@@philiproler5572 At least what's going to waste can make up for some nice fertilizer. The thing is technology is almost at a point where you can have machines produce food on demand.
@@hiiambarney4489 yeah should work as fertilizer. arent they doing that? well most food comes from fields and you cant rush that. so you have to plan to make a certain amount over the amount over the amount ppl will consume since part of the food cant be harvested because of bugs etc and then you still have to make sure to have more to sell than needed to make full profit and to make sure ppl wont starve.
So what I learned from this video is that we as a civilization need to drive less, find out how to produce electricity without fossil fuels, and waste less food.
@@jackofblades8112 That's not how it works. Mass is preserved, but matter is transformed. Yes, the carbon and the oxygen were already there, hut not as CO2, but in another form that doesn't cause the greenhouse event.
dont you just love it when billionaires say we should eat less to save the planet while their giant company is producing millions of tons of pollutants
I usually ask climate denialists what's more realistic. All the human activity in the world somehow not impacting the climate... Or, all the major industries responsible for climate change dumping the blame on the consumer to shift focus away from themselves? Few seem to have considered this and it's frustrating.
@@RextheRebel Never seen anyone deny the climate... Everyone past grade school knows the climate changes and has been changing for thousands of years and will continue to change.
21:09 I’ve spent time in South Africa in a region that grows large amounts of citrus, specifically oranges. It rained shortly before the harvest when the oranges were still on the trees, and this leaves a small water mark but affects the fruit in no way whatsoever. One farm alone had a few hundred tonnes of oranges that wouldn’t be accepted by European buyers, so they were just excess waste produce. Thankfully the farm gave them out for free to anyone who would take them, and the place I was volunteering took 8 tonnes of them to feed to the animals. Those 8 tonnes were a comparatively small truckload compared to some of the trucks taking them. It’s the perfect standards that produce is held to that causes the problems. Imperfect looking produce gets thrown away or can’t be sold in supermarkets. Sell by dates scare people into throwing produce that is a day over its date, despite it just being slightly lower quality.
Imperfect of odd looking fruit gets passed down to processing the fruit where appearance doesn’t matter, juices, pie and anything with fruit. Gotta say that livestock is a life saver when it comes to handling food waste.
Imperfect produce sometimes gets bought up by restaurants or factories who then convert them into more pleasant looking products. Baby cut carrots being the biggest example of ugly carrots getting shaved into presentable ones, and the shavings are then used as animal feed.
That sounds quite bizarre to me, the French have specific reductions on misshapen fruit. I know that they dye their oranges orange in the US, since they associate the green colour that sometimes remains in spots with being unripe.
As a person who grew up with family having a dairy business, i remember us feeding our cows only the wheat chaff that was human inedible and startch and grass during rains , neither of them could have been used by humans otherwise !!
@@TheAnnoyingBoss The number 1 green energy source in Wisconsin is methane collected from landfill sites but primarily from dairy facility digesters. Large caterpillar diesel generators running on fermenting cow poop
And people will refuse use nuclear energy which is cleaner than most rebewable energy sources if you factor in getting the resources to build eveeything.
Reaperman438 yh they don’t even Want to use it as a Bridge, (in Germany it’s more about Corruption through the Strong Energy Lobby who make more money out of Coal through government subsidies than through Nuclear)
@@reaperman438 the main thing people are scared of is the risk after seeing the terrible things in chernobyl, though with current technology I think the people vouching against it should take a look at the new technological advancements in terms of nuclear energy
@@maxwell_edison It means that even though the stats aren't fake, people use them in a misleading way without diving deep into the context and other factors to keep in mind.
Your idea with wasteless Wednesday is kind of a thing in Denmark. It is becoming standard practice to sell expiring food at a lower rate, stamping it with a "stop food waste" stamp. I always look out for these stamps, as these wares go for 50% or less.
I wish we did that more here in the US. I TrY to do a leftovers day at least once a week here.....luckily we have ducks and chickens that will eat most of our scraps. We compost what we can for our little garden as well.
@@catiemyers3429 Yes, just like WIL talks about, animals are essential for eating our food waste. You are effectively upcycling waste for egg and meat!
@@electrorage4158 actually they do. Those going vegan, a lot will actually continue to eat what is in their cupboard and fridge that is animal related before going completely off it. The animal already killed prior to the change of ideals. The same with these animals. Once this wave is done, there would be no more, thus nothing to waste. Otherwise meat and dairy eaters just keep a perpetual cycle of cruelty and killing or being lazy and having someone do it for them. I know exactly what you meant by the way. It was cheeky.
@@tilasole3252 yes bc vegans go harvest their own vegetables dumbsht😂 they dont just wait for some inmigrant child to harvest their avocado for them that then is shipped to the usa contaminating way more
I will say, a lot of times percentages can be misleading, on both sides. Percentages are easily manipulated into sounding worse or better than they actually are
exactly, I could see a lot of obvious misleading data that this video is exposing but just as much or maybe even more manipulated data in this video. btw I don't think people should stop eating meat even though I don't eat red meat, but the video is very misleading as well.
@@woomynation he wasn’t saying they use all non arable land, he’s just saying that a lot of the land is not usable for growing crops and that livestock is better than nothing on it
When my parents were young ,living in rural Poland, they didn't know what food waste was because everything that was left over or scraps ,was given to the farm animals. They didn't even waste the water after washing the dishes, they gave it to the cows yo drink because they didn't use washing up liquid.
I was going to make the same point about my great-grandparents in rural Kentucky USA. They didn't raise cows, but they did raise PIGS. Talk about no waste, pigs can eat anything. What came out of the pigs was fertilizer. Looking back on it, their farm recycled everything, before it was fashionable.
Alternative solution : we should eat enough but not more than needed and reduce our food waste (like for example fast foods that throw away leftovers)and we should eat more locally. We should also stop wanting perfect fruits and vegetables leading to a huge amount of edible food being wasted because we are being picky. And also, eating less meat still helps the planet but its interesting to see that stats can be easily misleading and we should focus our attention on how our society acts vis a vis food products.
@@iwtie112 Depends, I buy once per week and I actually consume less that way and food is not left over either. Usually I buy more than I need when I buy food more often. So honestly it depends on the person, if you don't know how much you consume in a week you might up buying in bulk, but I find that I buy less instead so it's not a rule.
@@iwtie112 For example instead of planning a meal for 1-2 days I plan meals for the entire week (etc I can use this leftover rice for tomorrow's meal also)
I have a dad that grew up on a dairy farm and a mother that grew up in a couple third world countries. I have always been taught to only throw food away if it is growing mold or if it could genuinely make us sick. I was stunned when I was at a friend’s house and she just scraped half of the food on the plate into the trash. And about all the land cows take up, that could be valid in say the UK, but have you ever seen rural America? There is an unfathomable amount of unused land. Also important to bring up- most people on the news reciting data are not scientists, they are activists.
@@frozenyogurth it's how the industry work. The food activists are idiots, and not only that, but likely orchestrated by individuals paid by the fossil fuel industry. Have anyone protest the excessive use of fossil fuels? No. Because we are all part of it, and we know it. Nuclear energy is feared and hated by a generation of cold war threats, and those fossil fuels companies know it, and taking advantage of it. It's sickening to see people fearing an explosion while the solar power make tons of waste and coal plants make the land around them inhabitable, or cause all kind of lung cancer and ventilation problems.
If everyone able to had a few chickens, table scraps could go towards feeding them. It drives me bonkers to see food waste tossed when it could be composted or fed to animals instead.
i agree, in my household nothing is thrown away even though i would say we are financially "comfortable". throwing away food doesn't make sense and morally hurts me. And in case we know some of the left overs probably wont get eaten we put them in containers and hand them out to the homeless and poor. I'm not trying to say I'm better than anyone all I'm trying to do is make you reconsider throwing away those leftovers, some people genuinely live in famine.
Whenever someone tells you, "just do less of whatever you're doing", and that will save the planet, probably won't save the planet. Pretty much a lazy excuse.
I'm so glad you mentioned California almonds. It has always bugged me that these farms in the desert choose to grow some of the most water-intensive plants in existence, just because the water they get is taxpayer subsidized.
I’m a Californian. The CA agricultural industry uses 80+% of the water here. While they now cut households once again. And our lakes, ground tables, reservoirs are all near depletion. In CA Orange County, Fullerton, there is a water reclamation facility that purifies black water for drinking use, but it has to put this water back into the ground table, and purify it again before people will drink it. But this black water purification is far cheaper than ocean desalination. Water reclamation facilities statewide should adopt back water reclamation. Btw, on the ISS space station, all liquids inclusive of sweat and urine are purified for drinking. Just saying.
The Military is the largest consumer of primary fossil fuel energy in the United States. Since 2001, the DOD has consistently consumed between 77 and 80 percent of all US government energy consumption.
One of the things that upsets me the most about this is how much food goes to waste before even making it to a table. Grocery stores and supermarkets throw out so much food every year, and a lot of that food is in more expensive things, like meats. Some studies are showing 43 BILLION pounds of food are just thrown away every year, all for the psychological effect of a plentiful shelf bringing people back to shop more often. Why are we so focused on the land used or the emissions of the food we buy while half of what stores sell ends up in landfills?!
This is deliberate policy on the part of government agencies like the USDA. They subsidize overproduction on purpose. If you don't have extra food, you run the risk of famine when there are supply disruptions. If you do have extra food, some of it will always go to waste.
I worked at a supermarket and yes they do get rid of so much food!!! Meats that could have just been frozen before the Best Buy date, veggies and fruits with small dents or bruises. I was trained to get rid of food with the slightest imperfections just so that I can look like I am working.
I used to work at a small bakery and its crazyyy how much was wasted every single day. They literally wouldn't let us take anything home and when a friend organized a food bank they even denied that smh
They wouldn’t let you take home the baked goods that didn’t get sold? I work at a cupcake shop, the closing retail people always take home or give away what doesn’t get sold that day.
There's this café/coffee shop chain called pret a manger and they donate all leftover food to homeless shelters at the end of every day. Idk if they are in America but I always try to support them.
See here's the capitalist reason why companies don't do that. If workers knew they could take home wasted food, they'd purposely make extra food so that there would be waste to take home. Companies would consider that wasted money so they don't want that to happen. They'd rather waste food than risk more money spent on food that isn't really wasted. And yes, I know there are situations where food is gonna be wasted anyway, but they don't care, it's the principle of the matter to them.
Wow it’s almost as if I was making a joke about how writing essays are hard and some brain dead TH-cam commenters can’t seem to understand the point of humor Plus I said ARGUMENTATIVE skills meaning his way of flowing from one topic to the next while also using evidence to support his claim, the entire point of my JOKE Maybe you should consider he fact that some people on the internet aren’t trying to start an argument every where they go. Stop looking for connections when there are none
We have that no waste Wednesday here in Korea. School meals are usually more tasty and are comprised of menus students actually like so they won't throw it away as much.
Yes. Here in Portugal if you produce more oranges than you should they will literally make you burn them all. It’s crazy. And a lot of people would be begging to have those oranges to eat. Not to mention we have to do our best not to waste food even if we can’t achieve perfection. I’m a vegan and once I accidentally bought something that had eggs on it. Even if it went against my morals I gave it to my mother because although I hate the consumption of eggs (and other animal products) I could never waste something merely for moral beliefs.
We’ll. Lots of vegetables wasted here in Philippines. How do you eat food like when you’re already full but you have to eat it to not waste food? Also that Nikocado guy…. really annoying.
starving people in some developed country like USA can be solved, but if they came from undeveloped country like Africa, it may not possible mainly because there is not much farm there and transport food from developed country to there took a big cost
@@calin6327 Quantity is an inherent property of reality. Numbers are just a way for us to properly express the quantity of an object. Numbers and quantity are fundamental to reality and are by law of nature, different from eachother as well as immutable unless forced to change by some force acted upon them.
9:25 In the same paper, they also write that byproducts from crop production, food processing and wastes only acoount for 30% of livestock feed; the rest steming from agricultural land explicitly used for feed production. In the paper they do point out, that not all of this area is convertible into land for crop production, but a third would be convertible.
The thing is we don't actually need more land to grow food. There is plenty of space already used, on rotation that yields enough to feed the world more than once on just those yields alone.
would be also interesting to look at where the differences in feeding methods and so lie between an industrial livestock farming and that of a normal farmer. Because i think that the amount of byproducts from food production will be much higher in the last one.
The answer is always somewhere in the middle. Less food waste yes, make sure animals get the organic food waste to recycle. But less livestock is a positive. The non crop land tat is for growing grass could be planted with trees to absorb greenhouse gasses. The best solution is something called agroforestry. Combine widely spaced trees all throughout every type of land. You can still graze and cut crops around trees and they keep the soil healthy. Combining trees throughout all agricultural land is the key. Also the horrendous cruelty to intensively farmed animal's has to stop. Lab grown meat or total free range should be the only options.
I was searching for this comment, thank you!🫶 Food Forests are such an interesting topic! And although it is not in the topic of the video, I sometimes get the feeling that people forget how much animals in the industry suffer...
I used to work for a crop protection chemicals company. There was a presentation once that 40% of crops are wasted because of insect or fungal damage, improper storage, inefficient transportation, unaesthetic looking produce
@@montolonzo3836 I used to work on a cattle farm in Maine. No, The amount of time it takes to turn fecal matter into manure is not inherently more efficient than vegetable matter. However, it is not possible to composte large amounts of animal biproducts such as meat and intestines or all the organ meat that is wasted yearly from swine farming, or certain organ meats like cows brains (since it is illegal to sell in the united states for health reasons) However, mechanical creation of fertilizer through compression is a faster process and does not take or waste any straw. This method is more common in densely populated areas.
there isn't ONE thing that can save the planet, but there are MANY things that we can do to make our planet a better place for everyone. It's all about efficiency, knowledge and balance
@@axxura5286 yes, you are right! Maybe I should have written "the planet", instead of "our planet". We, humans, need to understand that Earth is not our property, we are just living here and ultimately, we are living thanks to it.
@@jakkonexus1166 you think so? Grazing animals prevent desertification of marginal land. That land would require a lot of diesel fuel, pesticides, and chemical fertilizer to produce crops if the beef cattle were taken out of the equation.
The general takeaway from this is: "Don't take statistics at face value. Look deeper and you'll find that there's a lot more nuance to it than what they're telling you." EDIT: That applies to this video, too. I'm certain What I've Learned would expect it of us to follow up on all the information given in this video ourselves by doing our own research and arriving at our own conclusions.
@arcguardian i tryed and i am still not convinced by that video on some points, like comparing rice and steak. yep, maybe better than comparing watter and foi gras.
the reason we hear things like this is because big corporations are trying to make it seem like it’s something we are responsible for and that we could be doing something about it, instead of the other way around. it’s a distraction from what all of this environmental damage is really coming from.
In an era where wildlife has been limited to smaller and smaller areas due to the fact that humans keep taking land, calling land not used by humans "wasted" is a really weird thing to say.
It definitely is weird but I feel like a lot of the surrounding areas of these lands that would be “wasted” aren’t those that a lot of wildlife could/would necessarily live on. Even tho these lands might not be fully developed, they’re close enough in proximity to developed areas that wildlife may not be as present anyway
I feel like it’s a fair measure. If it’s not under the control of humans, then the emission from it are not benefiting humans and thus the emissions are wasted.
@@mohsenvh3619 Thats why incrising the effinency (that means, kalories/unit land) is important. one way to achive this is by eating vegetabels, not the cow that ate 9 times as many vegetables to produce the same amout of food. (there exist vegetation and junk that can be used by animals, but not by humans directly. But the vast majority of livestock is feed by crops espacialy grown to feed livestock) And land not used direktly to produce food is not wasted. e.g. it can bind carbon emissions, sink water from heavy rain events, sustan species (e.g. bees) that are very relevent to our survival, and many aspects more that we do not fully understand.
Yep. There's was a violent crime statistic being bandied about a few months ago, areas reporting as high as a 400% increase in violent crime! That little town went from 2 violent assaults the year before, to 8.
Yes, like in 16:45 where they say that in the us producing is more efficient without mentioning that that's because of the specific breed of cows they use to get milk😐
I hope science channels will respond to this. Either they will agree and it will be confirmed as accurate or they will disagree and make it more accurate by pointing out flaws, so basically a win win either way.
@@MrStinkels read his comment carefully, he is responding to the person that doesn't believe in science and is asking him for what else he uses instead of science, which uses the scientific method to arrive at conclusions.
Lol why suddenly corporation out of nowhere? Even if everyone were vegan, we would still rely on corporation to provide food n other vegan stuff..... which ironically helped the vegans to sustain the veganism itself.
@@phimolenacukh They want us all to go vegan because it's the most unhealthy way to go! Silicon Valley billionaires are called the "vegan mafia" because they created this trend! Not even after agriculture we started eating anything else more than animal protein... it was not only until the modernization came that we began to eat more vegetables than meat! And we drink milk since even before agriculture came along
Hi! I' from Chile, here natural water from rivers are deviated to prodice avocado and our land is drying so fast, there's people without access to water due to the avocado industry, PLEASE DO NOT BUY CHILEAN AVOCADO IF YOU SEE THEM IN YOUR COUNTRY
I think in Israel where a lot of avocados are grown for the European market, they already found a more sustainable way of growing avocados by reusing water 💪 maybe that will be a future solution for South America as well
Veganism shouldn’t be used by corporates to deflect attention away from their malpractices. And there are plenty malpractices of various sorts on every diet spectrum.
The term carbon footprint was made up by BP. You’d expect it to be an eco organisation that’s trying to point out waste, but it’s actually a term made up by BP so that the consumer feels responsible. They tell you that you’re responsible for what seems like a huge amount of pollution, meanwhile they’re polluting vastly more as a company. Then they go and create ecological problems such as oil spills from oil drilling, earthquakes from fracking, droughts from over consumption of water.
But in a way the companies are making things for the consumer, right? So doesn't that mean that the consumer is responsible, and that consumers should alter their lifestyles to ultimately reduce carbon footprint? Not arguing, I'm not too knowledgeable on the subject.
@@leonsage6806 You're partially right (not all the oil and energy produced by big oil companies end up at the end user), but in the end, what'll be easier? Convincing billions of people to give up their personal comforts for a cause bigger than themselves, or forcing one big oil company to restrict their pollution emission?
@@Quote_Cannon I suppose regulations would make it easier to reign in corporations than the public. Imagine filling one big hole, or a billion tiny holes... which do you think would be easier?
Only solution I see is to reduce the population by 75% that of course isn't going to happen. We're just going to keep using everything up and stepping on each other until the end comes.
Yup, around 50-70% of all the plastic waste in the ocean is fishing nets. The European nations has almost killed all the fishes near their country and are now plundering the African continent for their resources. I mean, what else do we expect from these nations who colonised and, hence, exploited a major part of the world.
Yeah, overfishing is really dumb because fish populations can restore themselves very fast, as long as we keep enough of them. If we reduced the consumption, just by, for example, requiring people to fish more humane, the impact would be way smaller and a lot less additional sea animals would die
Don't buy into it, it's astroturf propaganda from the meat lobby. Mitloehener gets his funding from the meat industry and his findings goes against the scientific consenus
How much methane do you think would be released by all of that rotting organic matter? If there are fewer animals to eat the grass etc (which contains atmospheric carbon) won't you actually be doing the opposite of what you intended?
@@sopiabobia3699 If you create large mounds of compostable material, the amount of it which 'has access to air' is only the first 2 inches or so. Once you go deeper than that the available oxygen is quickly used up and anaerobic decomposition occurs (this is one reason why large compost heaps are regularly turned over). If you want your compostable material to not require turning over, you would need huge amounts of space in order to spread it thinly enough, thus defeating the intention of freeing-up land. The other issue is the length of time the organic matter takes to become useful; this varies substantially depending on location. Finally, turning otherwise wasteful organic byproducts into something useful consumes lots of fossil fuels, as that's what powers the machinery used.
@@reson8 Great counterpoints lol. I will continue eating meat and composting :) My city composts our green bin material. I wonder if their process is anaerobic
the no waste wednesday thing is a great idea there are a few stores here in utah that sell leafy greens and vegetables that are about a week away from expiration and thats where I get my leafy greens and veggies, food is marked way down what was $5 is now $1 and it usually last up to a week after expiration, there should be more stores that practice that because seeing all that food wasted daily is very sad
I have a local store that always has produce on sale when it gets close to expiration. Like you that's how I get most of my leafy greens, veggies and fruit since I usually use it within a day or 2. Not always that much cheaper depending on what it is but at least it's not getting thrown out.
This video has been debunked lmao look it up here on youtube He enlists a scientist who is funded by the meat industry to help him with the video Lmao And to compare protein content between meat and rice... how disingenuous lmao Compare meat vs peanut then we'll talk This channel is a joke 😂 Also here in california we get next to no rain.... and there are hundreds If not thousands of factory farms around... so no we are definitely using our fresh water reserves to water crops to feed animals It was also not taken into account that only about 2 percent of the meat we consume is pasture raised The overwhelming ~98 something percent grew up in the confines of factory farms... So that discredits this entire video, as the guy who made the video seems to think all cows are pasture raised Animals in factory farms do not get rained on🌶🌶
As the famous joke goes: "We interviewed 100 people who played the Russian roulette, 100% of them survived. In conclusion, Russian roulette is safe!" Yeah, stats can be easily misleading...
@@maqyk4648 They could only interview the ones who survived, since they can't interview the ones who died in the act, so obviously 100% of the people being interviewed survived. So calling it safe is false
ty for the effort in making this vid and the links to the opposing side. its nice to see what both parts of the argument have to say. both give new perspectives that you don't really think much about
I'm not worried about the planet and cows. I'm worried that people believe not eating red meat will save the planet and the reasons why all this is being promoted.
Maybe they are the ones that are spreading this trend all along. Not to sound like a conspirator but I would not be surprised, they have the money and power to do so
Plants require massive machines and tractors, harvesters etc. They also grow seasonal so they have to be shipped globally from other countries to make sure you have it fresh everyday. Yes they do depend on massive amounts of fossil fuel especially if the whole population turns to craving fresh fruits and vegetables in every meal every day abusing the natural seasonal production
@@josecat436 Both crop and livestock agriculture is damaging to the environment due to unsustainable practices, it's not about demand for meat it's how it is supplied but the same can be applied to plants
We’re learning to recycle wasted food but sadly its just not getting as much attention and push because its dependent on people going out there and physically discerning food and compiling what does work and what doesn’t.
@@TheDragonfriday they already pay out to garbage truck workers so unless people accept a bill for raising taxes globally to pay for these people, its probably not going to happen. Governments already horde a fair amount of money then nickel and dime their populace. This would require a greater initiative. It'd be simpler to tax excess food waste but then that's gonna get pretty muddy and see way more push back.
@@Hot18Shot There's a few non-profit groups that gather towards food dumps or simply just dumps and gather wasted food. They'll typically separate them to what can be recycled and what can't, turn it into something useful. I think I've seen some groups recycle waste for compost to grow stuff. The issue with this is there aren't enough staff, they need more funding for equipment, and no politician actively promotes them because they actually don't give a damn about society, rather their own re-elections and well beings.
Some other guys said we can push for a law that exempts food establishments like bakery and cafe from lawsuit of spoiled foods if it was donated. Basically once the food is donated for soup kitchen or charity organizations they are "at their own risk".Since they can be sued for spoiled foods, this is a solution that benefits both the charity and the bakery
@@AlternativeReality When forage is cut, it has 75 to 80 percent moisture and must be dried down to 60 to 65 percent moisture content for haylage and down to 14 to 18 percent moisture content for hay (lower figures for larger bales)
@@AlternativeReality you must be from an alternate reality where the digestive track works without breaking down the food into byproducts one of a dried solid lumps the other soluble into water...Man I wish i lived there shitting and pissing sucks.
Or the lie that we are so that the Evil that stalks our lands can guilt/shame/fear their victims into accepting less liberty and handing over of resources and power.
@@TheBelrick The CCP China: "This is America?... Pathetic." When the CCP is more sane than the dead nation of liberty... Why am I not surprised by the human race.
We need more Organic meat, but we eat cheap meat in the US so meatless monday can be a solution but better is higher regulation for Animals and less imported meat from Argentine and India
I always hated wasting food. When I don't finish my meal (it happens often) my chickens help me finish it :). I live in a Slavic country so having chickens is really common where I live. Love these animals!
Grocery stores in America are ridiculously well stocked. It's so rare to see gaps in the shelves. I can't even imagine how much of it must get thrown out.
This video send me down a rabbit hole. Learning about the misinformation and vested interests presented here, let me to become vegan a few months later
A lot of the issues with agricultural emissions can be solved with more regenerative farming methods, and a general reduction of food waste, which means lowering our consumption that goes beyond our reasonable needs
Bruh, it's not thr individual person causing this. If everyone stopped eating meat and stuff the billionares would still trash the climate to make more money.@@StudioSkiesAndWater
@@StudioSkiesAndWaterWhat @yourneighbourino424 means is that the current forms of both conventional and organic agriculture are not sustainable, and the issues caused by them (deforestation, erosion, nutrient runoff, desertification, ...) far outweigh any impact animals have. Research Conservation Agriculture if you want to know more.
sell your car and buy a bicycle, cars are one of the greatest evils we ever created it is somethign only to be used when absolutely necessary. like for building, emergency tansport and such. never just out of convenience.
I'm actually the most shocked by the amount of food wasted. growing up I was always taught to never waste food, dont get more than you need etc etc so it never occurred to me that there could be that much waste since I usually try not to waste food.
Most of the wastage happens way before you actually see the food. Agriculture wastes loads of perfectly edible food because the carrots look too wonky etc.
You were raised right, but sometimes, and there's definitely no data for how common this is, you can be raised right but just frequently misjudge your portions and/or whoever cooks at home cooks too much, but you don't really have the heart to tell a parent for example to stop caring so much for you that they're giving you so much food.
While you might not waste anything that you buy we as a society waste the food collectively. Grocery stores throw out loads and loads of food, especially easily spoiled stuff like fruits and vegetables. So for every say two cucumbers you buy we as a society throw away one.
In the US at least we have a habit of hunting for 'deals' so you are encouraged to buy large amounts of something for more money because it's cheaper per unit. In reality we spend more for too much stuff and throw away a large portion.
It’s crazy how people look to find a scapegoat to blame global warming on and they chose to ignore the most widespread thing contributing to global warming ‘cars’. They ignore it because they like their cars/trucks and can’t imagine not having them, but they can with meat.
This sounds like every vegan person was like "You have to stop eating animal products because of the environment!!!" which isn't the case (for most vegans). Every vegerterian/vegan person I know (me included) does it for a number of reasons but the biggest reason is usually that we don't want animals to suffer.
Ive been thinking about this too. Freezing the food that’s usually expected to go to waste and selling it at a lower cost. Using spoiled food as a source of bio fuel. Shipping unbought frozen goods to places in need, like homeless shelters, poor family’s, refugee camps, struggling countries. We have a lot of potential solutions, I think videos like this will lead the way.
Your idea is absolutely ridiculous because it makes absolute sense. Money can't be made off of such idea's the idea is to make people spend money not save it.
Excellent ideas! We as a society need to take back control of our food and think more about the current model and reliance on supermarkets. So many people could grow foods themselves even in modest gardens, yet we're paying for food and packaging flown into our countries.. it's crazy. And local farms are not supported which were the primary source of foods in the past. We need to cut out the middle guys food manufacturers and supermarkets and go straight to the source (local farms) for foods we can't grow or produce ourselves.
Actually, the most water usage for crops, in the USA, is lawn grass. Between housing, parks, golf course, game fields, the random bits of beautification grass ( think of the patches in mediums, on the sides of expressways, inside parking lots) and it becomes the single greatest use of water
I hope you're not thinking of replacing that grass with concrete. There are better ways to use that space. Gardens use less water, better yet if it's a xeriscape garden or if native species are used, since they're adapted to the rainfall in that region. Gardens are better for wildlife, too (bonus points if native species are used), much better than a sterile lawn.
@@nickvaden3196 where are getting that? I offered no hint of a suggestion for a replacement, merely correcting an error in the video. And as for your own replacements; it depends on your aims and goals. Going pure utilitarian, then one should get rid of the concept of individual housing to being with. Pure "natural" then total global euthanasia is required.
And even worse, a lot of lawn care is MANDATED by cities or suburbs. If you have an "ugly" lawn, you can literally BE FINED for not taking care of it forcing people to waste more resources on it. Honestly, lawns are one of the most unhealthy pieces of infrastructure we have. There needs to be a solution found to convert most lawns into something far more sustainable. Maybe something like using more hearty native wild plants that dont need as many artificial resources while also supporting more native ecosystems as most lawn grass is an Invasive species to begin with.
There one extra source to mention: Deforestation. Most of deforestation on Amazon are for cattle and soy (to export to use as cattle food in China mainly). In Brazil and in countries that import meat and soy from Brazil, eating less meat have a better positive impact. Note that Brazil is one of the top pollutants, but we have a rather clean powegrid (mostly hydroelectric) and almost all cars can run on ethanol that is wildly available. Most pollution comes from deforestation.
yes!! i see a lot of random facts “they drink all the water! they eat our food!” i never heard those!! here in paraguay so. much. land. has been deforested for cattle (also for exportation!!) brazil being our neighbors also had these problems: fires and floods. we, the “third world” countries have to pay for all the deforestation so we can export meat and leather to europe and asia
You can't forget that if we get rid of cattle we need to then keep taking up more space from forests just so the planet doesn't have a lack of fruits grains and vegetables
This is true. The more people that see this the better more knowledgeable decisions we can make. Look at who funds the studies and research you're looking at.
True, the save Ralph is also is the same patterns, why tell us to not use beauty product that test on animal instead of totally stop using beauty product? It can save environment if we all stop use beauty products!!. Oh right, if people stop using all beauty product then they can’t make money too.lolololol.
this video is a great example of it. The "non-edible" could become fertilizer. Manure that is pollutant if not dealt properly woudnt even be needed. It could also become biofuel or plastics too.
@@bernardeugenio No. The non-edible DOES become fertilizer... and meat, eggs, dairy, and leather. Some of it COULD also become biofuel or plastics - which would require more investment of energy and other resources.
as someone who has done agriculture science and has a farm that only has limited areas of plantable land im glad that this is being brought up. i e always found it hard to explain these points but you did it really well in this video and i hope more people can see it
Well, the fish are derived from the ocean ecosystem which is based on algae so there isn’t really a negative effect other than just producing a normal amount of CO2 and O2, in general, it’s a very balanced ecosystem.
The ocean is the world's oxygen filter, however people don't seem to care. More pollution blocks sunlight for algae to form. Water acidity also plays a role, especially when you see red tide. Microplastics could be a cause, however the biggest impact to reduce is man itself. The population is too big and growing. Reducing the population will reduce the strain of producing goods and foods.
no one talks about it? You can find plenty of people on this very platform talking about it. I rather see one topic covered in some depth than 25 different things brushed over in 15 minutes. We've got the evening news for that.
@@henriquejun4771 No that isn't the issue- fish pops are going down and massive amounts of plastic waste is produced by the industry. Fish movements also help mixing the ocean carbon cycling it.
It is weird to hear that cows and chickens don’t eat human food. I am a farmer in Brazil, and all the chickens I know eat corn, and all cows that are not grass fed eat soybeans.
When you got to the section about the kind of land that livestock use, my old rural brain I haven't used in over a decade ticked over and said, "Not all land is equal. You can raise cattle on land you'd never plow over."
Cattle grazing does make land infertile. That's a big reason for deforestation in Africa. Most of the animals in the world don't get fed by leftovers but by crops separately farmed for them. You can google it.
@@okman9684that doesn't sound right. I thought if you rotate sites, don't overgraze, and manage the pastures, cattle would add to the environment. I mean, manure alone should make for super fertile land.
@@katrinab7657 Animal farming CAN be sustainable. But not in the current scale. We really need to reduce the animal products we eat (and generally buy, It's Not only food).
@@offifee8022 we really need to reduce the amount of grains we eat, and generally use. Not only food. Watch the video. 1Kg of meat is not the same amount of food as 1Kg of rice. 200g of meat can easily be your only meal for the day, while 200g of rice will leave you hungry an hour or two later.
Worked in a grocery store for a few years. The amount of waste was staggering. We donated much of the "expired" canned goods to food banks and such though. However, produce, meat, etc. quickly filled up the dumpster. Employees could not purchase meat that was out of date for legal reasons, sigh, even on the day after it supposedly expired. When some of us tried to order less product to reduce waste we were directed to keep everything packed full (shelves, displays and such) because it looked "empty" otherwise. Okay, that led to products not being rotated correctly, which led to more waste. The 'horrors' of a product running low or even out for a few days maximum was too disturbing I guess. But then, many people get upset if a place is out of stock on something and shop elsewhere - only to find the same out of stock issue other places. Learned a lot and have always made not wasting food a priority from an early age. Oh well, I tried.
My first day in the produce department for a large, semi-local grocery store chain, my manager pulled me aside and told me that basically the only things worth buying in a grocery store are located in the meats, dairy, and produce sections.
@@ZacksRockingLifestyle Have heard similar. Also heard that for some stores 80% of their profit comes from 20% of what they sell; meaning that staples tend to be cheap to draw customers in but buy a furnace filter, for example, it will be marked up pretty well. Impulse purchases are usually marked up significantly.
@@DanSpotYT That sounds about right. I can't share proprietary data, but every time I get an update, it's a few departments bringing in all the money. But, if we cut the nonprofitable areas of the store, you wouldn't get people coming into the store at all. It's like air conditioning. It is a cost, but these days if you haven't got it, then people are not going to do any shopping at your store, so stores pay for it anyways.
Question: Why did he keep mentioning Japan along side USA? Usa is obvious because it's the "main" country that most of these videos talk about but why japan? Is this youtuber in Japan? He did mention that he visited a diary farm in Japan. Or is it because the guy giving the information is living in Japan?
You can't really judge countries on emissions based on production only, since many of the developing countries that produce more, hence higher emissions, export their products to the countries that might yes, emit less, but consume and import more of it. So consumption should be taken into account as well regarding emissions. Only because your country "emit less" in its territory, it doesn't mean it doesn't contribute to it in other ways, like through imports.
I was thinking about that like Afghanistan probably imports a lot of food but has a low emission i would imagine but it was surprising to find that China imports the most food and also produces the most greenhouse gases.
@@kurtshaw229 That probably means china is inefficient in how they produce. China is probably in an economic bubble though so don't know how that's gonna go.
@@kurtshaw229 The Chinese household burning coal brisket to keep warm in the winter. That and the coal powered generator produces a lot of greenhouses.
Got the same thought : 15:20 It would have been quite better to have unbiased sight to show what part of the total meat each country produces instead of just saying Developped countries are responsible for 20% of C02 emissions ( for which part of the world total production??? That would be relevant . ) , While 80% for developping countries . Sure, if they produce more meat, they are responsible for more gas emissions.
I watched this video and was impressed with the ideas here… until I looked up Dr. Frank Mitloehner (the only scientific source in that video). Dude has received a ton of funding funding from the commercial meat industry… He’s a really sketchy source. If you look him up, you’ll get the idea.
In Taiwan, we feed all recycled food waste (which is part of the country's recycling system) to pigs, and we have a lot of them with the large pig growing industry. It's horrifying when I first come to the US as all food waste goes to landfills despite some higher education orgs attempt new ways to deal with food waste, which doesn't make sense for me.
In Poland from few years restaurants, bakers, canteens or similar can't give away wasted food, or food not able too sell. Even homeless can't get something. Everything has to be thrown into bin. Otherwise restaurants will have cash mandate. Sick low. It starts from EU. Previously that what children don't eat in school was given to pigs. I hope you understand
@@WatchStuffWithMe What you just used is called an appeal to futility logical fallacy. Just because horrible things happen does not mean you have the right to continue perpetuating those horrible things. 80/20 rule. Stop horrible things happening in the easiest most practicable way possible (what you stick in your pie hole) first, then solve the other smaller problems that are harder to solve. You can in fact make the world a better place. You just got to be smart about it. We can tackle those other problems after you convince yourself to stop hurting animals for taste buds.
I grew up on a sheep-farm where we also grew hay that we sold to others. The idea that all of this land could be used to grow vegetables for human consumption is ridiculous. At least in my country, growing vegetables is waaay more profitable than any other type of farming, so if a farmer sees that he has the soil to do so- trust me, he's already doing it. My father would always be so envious of vegetable-farmers, but we just didn't have the land for it, lol.
This. So much farmland near my hometown is completely unsuited for cash crop or veg. Hay only. The only big vegetable growers locally are industrial warehouse-sized greenhouse operations
on the other hand, if, for example, the state would subsidize the land so that natural meadows or scrubland could be created there - instead of grassland, then this could contribute to biodiversity.
Cool, now I got both sides of the story and will use this information to come up with my own opinion on the subject and act accordingly without simply doing what someone else tells me to do.
98% of people are not farmers and probably 96% of people probably think to make crops grow you just throw seeds on the ground and they will grow without problems.
Ah yes, only farmers can have an opinion on farming This can literally be used against any opinion Regardless of profession stats don’t lie and the stats continue to lean towards vegansim
Well then vegans can eat all of the wheat. Even the roots and leaves. Perhaps they'll evolve multiple chambered stomachs... Vegans are uninformed cattle.
Could be. But the thing is, most crops are fed to animals. So all the issues of crop farming come on top for the majority of animal products, where the animals are Not fed grass from existing and Not more sensfully usable grassland and leftovers.
✍️ "DEBUNK" RESPONSE 🥩 www.patreon.com/posts/51285771 📑 (PDF) to the youtuber "Earthling Ed" 's attempt at "debunking" this video.
✍️Here is my reply to another one: www.patreon.com/posts/50919460 I'll get to the other "debunkings" as I have time.
🌎The discussion with Dr. Mitloehner was immensely helpful but for those of you worried that I'm relying on one source: plenty of research was done before and after our conversation. I double checked all of his points and they are all backed up by research that is not his own. (All sources are in the description.)
🐄This video is talking about conventional beef, *not* grass fed beef.
🥩There's actually still a ton more to talk about that couldn't fit in this video, how many of you guys would like to see another video expanding on this topic?
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So real question is how do we lower/ eliminate food wastage.
Any suggestions?
Really looking forward to digging into the sources, when will the pdf be out?
Keep it up!!
Srsly thank you so much, I had such a terrible perception toward the meat industry till now because of all the false media. I wonder why they'd share such nonsense to begin with? 🤔 Conspiracyyyyyy
@@ThomasOrnell he already said that he'll give the sources in the video description
People should definitely be educated about both sides but most importantly to not waste food
Yeah i agree, i feel as though the people who are watching this are only taking away the fact that it’s ok to eat meat because of the reasons he discussed, but aren’t acknowledging the fact that stuff like animal abuse is a prevailing reason why a lot of people don’t eat meat.
@@groovydiphenhydramine9707 He's literally talking about why not eating meat won't save our planet. He's not saying that mass murder of animals is ok.
Wasting food is haram
Underrated point, I honestly hate it whenever something gets wasted in my house. That being said it's minimal compared to what I've seen other people do.
@twentyfivekgplants tomake1kgbeef Neither of those videos are credible responses, lmao. Just a bunch of triggered vegans bitching about his video and cherry picking certain parts they want to comment on.
I work at a brazilian restaurant with an all you can eat buffet and the amount of food people throw away is insane.
Clients that don't throw any food away are rare, while families with little kids are the worst they get extra plates full of food and always say stuff like "you know how children are! They eat with their eyes!".
I grew up hating wasting food and there's so many ways to recycle leftovers too
the thing is, as long as that food is going into compost theres very little harm done cause the nutrients is reused.
When I'm at a restaurant and have leftovers I always ask if they can be wrapped, so I can eat it later at home.
I went eating with friends once and did that and when we walked outside they said it was embarrassing. I really don't understand why...it was a delicious small portion of chinese noodles, why should that go to the garage bin and I don't understand why was that embarrassing for them? I asked for my food to be packed, not theirs....I never went to a restaurant with them after that since I'm "embarrassing"
@@obnoxious_alien it depends on the type of restaurant, in most restaurants that's perfectly fine but in an all you can eat restaurant you literally can't do doggy bags.
Because the whole point of an all you can eat restaurant is that you eat as much as you can in one sitting for a fixed price so packaging leftovers is not economically viable because everyone could pack a whole meal to take home
@@bobrianfo104 Yeah you're right. I should have clarified that it wasn't a all you can eat, I definitely wouldn't do that. I always but a little less on my plate when I'm attending one just to make sure I don't grab stuff that will be thrown out.
See, I prefer all you can eats, because I can portion size for myself, and actually finish my meal! Restaurants usually pile so much onto the plate, there's no way I can finish it, and a bunch gets wasted. But the people who pile high and they know they won't finish it bother me so much!
So basically, the point is that it's very easy to mislead people with statistics
@@Anna-ln7hl why?
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." - Mark Twain
@twentyfivekgplants tomake1kgbeef Sources?
Also damn, another "it's deh big meat industry" comment.
@@Anna-ln7hl Sheesh, just gonna make that post with no supporting evidence? He actually took time to research this video, but let's all just agree with your 2 sentences backed by nothing.
yeah. the statistics portrayed in this video
Nothing alone will save the planet. We have to change MANY THINGS SIMULTANEOUSLY
I wholeheartedly agree with that. We definitely can't blame the meat industries alone for many issues. Though I still have concerns reguarding their involvement in land and water polulation with animal waste. Their management of animal waste is largely questionable.
@@analyticofexistance7847Does that not get spread as a natural fertiliser on ploughed fields? Saving the planet from pollution, deforestation and exploitation of other species for food and profit is fast becoming too late to stop melting of the polar ice and the subsequent rapid rise in sea levels.
NOT THE PLANET BUT THE ECOSYSTEM !!! LIFE WILL NOT DISSAPEAR top believing emotional propaganda...
It's a shame that the only ones who can change it relatively easily are greedy, old degenerates who couldn't care less about the planet. They won't be around for it, so why would they care? Empathy? They don't have that.
@@bodhiapurva3887bro has a point 🍷🗿
The fact that we are predominantly a coal powered world and cow farts are some people's biggest concern has me dumbfounded.
Most americans know nothing about the country they live in, still they think they know everything about the whole world
They will believe anything if it means they aren't the lone wolf that gets rejected. It's actually an age old form of mind control that they are under.
ummmm isnt it the soil erosion also an issue lmfao
Vegan agenda at the finest, scamming the whole scientific community without getting noticed
@@dododog5002Yeah, massive overproduction and reliance on fertilizer means we ruin the soil, an issue that grazing livestock doesn't tend to have.
I always had a feeling they were passing the blame from industry, commercial, and residential pollution onto farms.
No, they blame it into consumer for eating cow.
Totally unrelated, but everyone belive it
Like always, passing the blame onto who can’t fight back.
Who are "they"?
@@vaigest Anyone with a grain of power or authority
@@aerospyrosftw heh, grain.
do cows take all our water? no, Nestle does.
Lmao, you win the comment section
Facts
You forgot the soda companies like Coke!
Actually they do in India.
Animal agriculture is responsible for the explosion of livestock population.
Entire fresh water ponds are used to bath cows and buffaloes.
India is also the largest exporter of beef, so technically you guys are responsible for it, because you buy it.
Exactly
As a vegetation whose primary motivation is not environmental reasons, I found this very interesting. I would be choosing this diet with or without the perceived environmental benefit but I always wondered why some people make such a big deal about cow farts. I truly feel like big corporate polluters are trying to deflect the blame
I wish more people were like this! I choose to eat organic produce whenever possible not because it gives me any better nutrition, but strictly for the environmental reasons. That doesn't mean I bike 100 miles to work every morning just to save some gas!
Bro he only considered the environmental impact of meat&dairy, what about turning animals who doesn't want to get killed into livestock & commercialized. Human meat also is very nutritious so why dont we commercialized humans into food & keep them in small cages.
@@oruchemalu9315this isn't a great take in the subject
@@oruchemalu9315 I'm not entirely sure about your rhetorics but ever heard of kuru? Prion?
"As a vegetation" you carrot.
I wished TH-cam had a "Sort By: Controversial" in comments
Just sort by new.
Found the redditor.
😂😂
@@karjedav seeing the word redditor makes me cringe
And there should be a "controversial" button next to thumbs up
This is why I hate wasting food with a passion. Whenever I am forced to discard spoiled food or a meal I can't finish or store as a leftover I feel like I've committed a heinous crime.
same plus it's just a waste of my money
Compost it or burn it
@@alimanolfat5147 why
Heinous,eh?
me too 😭 probably also because my parents don't like it when me as a child didn't finish my food
Take it from someone working retail, what we really need to stop is excessive packaging of goods. Do you have any idea how many Hangers get thrown away every year? Any idea at all? I don't even know how many I throw out myself, I lost count, it's maddening. Society is constantly looking for ways to blame the individual for the fault of corporate producers
You took the words out of my mouth
Brilliant comment.
The individual is not only blamed for the fault of corporate producers, but also in order to cover the excesses from the wealthiest 0,1% (who casually tend to be the owners of such corporations).
Exactly.
this comment needs to be pinned !
The water argument is one of the dumbest ones. Cows literally just drink rainwater them pee it out a couple hours later. It’s not like they’re holding on to thousands of gallons of water forever.
it's the water needed for the crops 'ya ding dong
@@ajuicejemasits rain water it comes from the sky it will get to the plants lol
Don't forget that a single cow can be used for a few dozen of hamburgers and not just a single one
pee is usually waste and excess fluid, you shouldn't drink your piss since its literally what your body spent energy on specifically to get out.
It's no use, their brains don't function well enough to stop imagining cows as containing some sort of a black hole that sucks up water irreversibly. A cow ultimately holds on to no more water than the margin between the dry mass of its organism and its total body mass at any given moment. The rest of the water that they need to live is excreted and reabsorbed into the ecosystem along with the fertilizing metabolites the plants need. (Spoiler : plants hold on to water too. Their inedible parts hold on to water too.)
"1/3 of all produced food is wasted"
That shocked me on a whole other level.
Edit: apparently some people wonder why it shocked me and why I didn't know that......
well to be fair we need at least a little bit 2 much food because that means everybody has 100% of what he needs. if we wouldnt have leftovers it means someone has to starve.
but we definately can help reducing the amount of waste so that we get as close to the 100% as possible.
@@philiproler5572 yeah but still someone starves even if we are overpoducing.
@@aleksa280 yeah it sucks but honestly im not sure if theres even a way to use the overproduction to help these ppl.
id wish everybodys happy but things are so damn complicated. like how we need to overproduce but we cant ship that then to those hungry since it would just rot on the way.
but one way to reduce the waste and help ppl is already used in germany. we call it the "tafel". ppl with few money get the allowance to get there food. for most part its food that would have been thrown away because its not "perfect" or food that has been donated. they just have to pay like 2€ and get a share of that food. so depending on how much food there is they get a big bag or even more.
@@philiproler5572 At least what's going to waste can make up for some nice fertilizer.
The thing is technology is almost at a point where you can have machines produce food on demand.
@@hiiambarney4489 yeah should work as fertilizer. arent they doing that?
well most food comes from fields and you cant rush that. so you have to plan to make a certain amount over the amount over the amount ppl will consume since part of the food cant be harvested because of bugs etc and then you still have to make sure to have more to sell than needed to make full profit and to make sure ppl wont starve.
So what I learned from this video is that we as a civilization need to drive less, find out how to produce electricity without fossil fuels, and waste less food.
Nailed it, but we need to rethink our transport systems too.
Bingo.
Solar panels
@@beccamusgrave6104 fusion reactors actually.
Pretty much. Doesnt matter what you eat so much as of it's more local ( less transportation to get ot to you)
Its surprising how many people forget about the water cycle. I give you genuine thanks for pointing out the obvious.
And the carbon cycle with the methane. I'd never even thought of that. Cows are basically carbon neutral as far as that goes.
@@RipleySawzen Every living thing is co2 neutral, it's basic sceince. Conservation of mass.
@@jackofblades8112 Indeed, especially on the scale of how much carbon we're putting back into the atmosphere.
@@jackofblades8112 That's not how it works. Mass is preserved, but matter is transformed. Yes, the carbon and the oxygen were already there, hut not as CO2, but in another form that doesn't cause the greenhouse event.
@@RipleySawzen Methan is far more destructive in the atmosphere than CO², it's a climate killer.
dont you just love it when billionaires say we should eat less to save the planet while their giant company is producing millions of tons of pollutants
I usually ask climate denialists what's more realistic. All the human activity in the world somehow not impacting the climate... Or, all the major industries responsible for climate change dumping the blame on the consumer to shift focus away from themselves?
Few seem to have considered this and it's frustrating.
@@RextheRebel Never seen anyone deny the climate...
Everyone past grade school knows the climate changes and has been changing for thousands of years and will continue to change.
@@SteversChed yeah and there's also a significant and demonstrable anthropogenic component to it
@@CzolgoszWorkinMan Thanks for agreeing I am absolutely right and the rex was being deceitful.
21:09 I’ve spent time in South Africa in a region that grows large amounts of citrus, specifically oranges.
It rained shortly before the harvest when the oranges were still on the trees, and this leaves a small water mark but affects the fruit in no way whatsoever.
One farm alone had a few hundred tonnes of oranges that wouldn’t be accepted by European buyers, so they were just excess waste produce.
Thankfully the farm gave them out for free to anyone who would take them, and the place I was volunteering took 8 tonnes of them to feed to the animals. Those 8 tonnes were a comparatively small truckload compared to some of the trucks taking them.
It’s the perfect standards that produce is held to that causes the problems. Imperfect looking produce gets thrown away or can’t be sold in supermarkets. Sell by dates scare people into throwing produce that is a day over its date, despite it just being slightly lower quality.
Imperfect of odd looking fruit gets passed down to processing the fruit where appearance doesn’t matter, juices, pie and anything with fruit.
Gotta say that livestock is a life saver when it comes to handling food waste.
Imperfect produce sometimes gets bought up by restaurants or factories who then convert them into more pleasant looking products. Baby cut carrots being the biggest example of ugly carrots getting shaved into presentable ones, and the shavings are then used as animal feed.
@@maximtsai1856 No
That sounds quite bizarre to me, the French have specific reductions on misshapen fruit. I know that they dye their oranges orange in the US, since they associate the green colour that sometimes remains in spots with being unripe.
The people in Europe that don't want to accept those oranges are "vegan people".🤣
As a person who grew up with family having a dairy business, i remember us feeding our cows only the wheat chaff that was human inedible and startch and grass during rains , neither of them could have been used by humans otherwise !!
Idk why we dont capture the methane farts and then use it to power a powerplant. Put a big ol bubble over the field 😂
@@TheAnnoyingBoss The number 1 green energy source in Wisconsin is methane collected from landfill sites but primarily from dairy facility digesters. Large caterpillar diesel generators running on fermenting cow poop
That's the case if tiny farms which are the minority
@@TheAnnoyingBossexcept we do capture methane from dung using biogas plants
Yeah bit that's no how cows are being fed worldwide. Wakeup bro.
The most frustrating thing is that people will debate until death about meat vs no meat while fossil fuels exist
And people will refuse use nuclear energy which is cleaner than most rebewable energy sources if you factor in getting the resources to build eveeything.
Reaperman438 yh they don’t even Want to use it as a Bridge, (in Germany it’s more about Corruption through the Strong Energy Lobby who make more money out of Coal through government subsidies than through Nuclear)
Nuclear is the way.
@@reaperman438 the main thing people are scared of is the risk after seeing the terrible things in chernobyl, though with current technology I think the people vouching against it should take a look at the new technological advancements in terms of nuclear energy
@@prosexer0624 yea nuclear energy too risky
This is the perfect example of ''numbers don't lie, liars use numbers''
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@@maxwell_edison It means that even though the stats aren't fake, people use them in a misleading way without diving deep into the context and other factors to keep in mind.
@@that7madjust like what vegans do
He just lied to you and you believe him, 🤦, that guy he interviewed is bought by the industry. And that study was funded by them.
@@that7madmore like he use them to lie in the video
Your idea with wasteless Wednesday is kind of a thing in Denmark. It is becoming standard practice to sell expiring food at a lower rate, stamping it with a "stop food waste" stamp. I always look out for these stamps, as these wares go for 50% or less.
I wish we did that more here in the US. I TrY to do a leftovers day at least once a week here.....luckily we have ducks and chickens that will eat most of our scraps. We compost what we can for our little garden as well.
Yo, you need to come to the U.S. and tell our government about that lmao
@@catiemyers3429 Yes, just like WIL talks about, animals are essential for eating our food waste. You are effectively upcycling waste for egg and meat!
The video of dunkin donut chain throwing away hundreds of perfectly edible doughnuts comes to mind.
Dutch supermarkets already sell products that are close to expiring by 35-50%. It doesn't have a specific day, it's every day.
The Food waste thing is truly a shame.. especially since those animals gave their lives for being wasted.
It is.
Vegans always talk about how it's awful to kill animals, but never about how it's awful to waste the delicious food.
@@electrorage4158 actually they do. Those going vegan, a lot will actually continue to eat what is in their cupboard and fridge that is animal related before going completely off it. The animal already killed prior to the change of ideals. The same with these animals. Once this wave is done, there would be no more, thus nothing to waste.
Otherwise meat and dairy eaters just keep a perpetual cycle of cruelty and killing or being lazy and having someone do it for them. I know exactly what you meant by the way. It was cheeky.
@@tilasole3252 Oh okay that's cool
@@tilasole3252 yes bc vegans go harvest their own vegetables dumbsht😂 they dont just wait for some inmigrant child to harvest their avocado for them that then is shipped to the usa contaminating way more
I will say, a lot of times percentages can be misleading, on both sides. Percentages are easily manipulated into sounding worse or better than they actually are
You can make numbers say what ever you want
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exactly, I could see a lot of obvious misleading data that this video is exposing but just as much or maybe even more manipulated data in this video. btw I don't think people should stop eating meat even though I don't eat red meat, but the video is very misleading as well.
@@woomynation Don't mean to sound rude but I genuinely want to know what's misleading about the video
@@woomynation he wasn’t saying they use all non arable land, he’s just saying that a lot of the land is not usable for growing crops and that livestock is better than nothing on it
I’d appreciate a no food waste Wednesday every day, let alone once a week.
When my parents were young ,living in rural Poland, they didn't know what food waste was because everything that was left over or scraps ,was given to the farm animals. They didn't even waste the water after washing the dishes, they gave it to the cows yo drink because they didn't use washing up liquid.
I don't like feeding washing water to cows but other than that yeah, they consume waste food and turn it into great edible food
@@aquibsayyed9186 the washing water was only water with food scraps, no soap. My grandparents did it too
@@aquibsayyed9186 you can have a shitty polluted river near you and a very clean one 200m from you. The cows will choose the close one.
@@LtdJorge because its close to them, but if you take the cow and go to the river then they will drink that.
I was going to make the same point about my great-grandparents in rural Kentucky USA. They didn't raise cows, but they did raise PIGS. Talk about no waste, pigs can eat anything. What came out of the pigs was fertilizer. Looking back on it, their farm recycled everything, before it was fashionable.
Alternative solution : we should eat enough but not more than needed and reduce our food waste (like for example fast foods that throw away leftovers)and we should eat more locally. We should also stop wanting perfect fruits and vegetables leading to a huge amount of edible food being wasted because we are being picky. And also, eating less meat still helps the planet but its interesting to see that stats can be easily misleading and we should focus our attention on how our society acts vis a vis food products.
Stop buying in bulk. Buy food on a 2 or 3 day basis
@@iwtie112 Depends, I buy once per week and I actually consume less that way and food is not left over either. Usually I buy more than I need when I buy food more often. So honestly it depends on the person, if you don't know how much you consume in a week you might up buying in bulk, but I find that I buy less instead so it's not a rule.
@@iwtie112 For example instead of planning a meal for 1-2 days I plan meals for the entire week (etc I can use this leftover rice for tomorrow's meal also)
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Blame the companies packaging they over pack stuff I really hate wasting food so I always eat leftovers next day.
I have a dad that grew up on a dairy farm and a mother that grew up in a couple third world countries. I have always been taught to only throw food away if it is growing mold or if it could genuinely make us sick. I was stunned when I was at a friend’s house and she just scraped half of the food on the plate into the trash.
And about all the land cows take up, that could be valid in say the UK, but have you ever seen rural America? There is an unfathomable amount of unused land.
Also important to bring up- most people on the news reciting data are not scientists, they are activists.
Same I'm hate throwing away food. It's wild that some people throw out package sealed food, just because it has gone past expirationdate.
@@frozenyogurth it's how the industry work. The food activists are idiots, and not only that, but likely orchestrated by individuals paid by the fossil fuel industry. Have anyone protest the excessive use of fossil fuels? No. Because we are all part of it, and we know it. Nuclear energy is feared and hated by a generation of cold war threats, and those fossil fuels companies know it, and taking advantage of it. It's sickening to see people fearing an explosion while the solar power make tons of waste and coal plants make the land around them inhabitable, or cause all kind of lung cancer and ventilation problems.
If everyone able to had a few chickens, table scraps could go towards feeding them. It drives me bonkers to see food waste tossed when it could be composted or fed to animals instead.
i agree, in my household nothing is thrown away even though i would say we are financially "comfortable". throwing away food doesn't make sense and morally hurts me. And in case we know some of the left overs probably wont get eaten we put them in containers and hand them out to the homeless and poor. I'm not trying to say I'm better than anyone all I'm trying to do is make you reconsider throwing away those leftovers, some people genuinely live in famine.
Whenever someone tells you, "just do less of whatever you're doing", and that will save the planet, probably won't save the planet. Pretty much a lazy excuse.
I love how people can blame what people are eating when you can literally see polution pouring out of smoke stacks, vehicles, and land fills
Often times that's just water vapor.
Food waste really deserves its own video.
you mean capitalism? when you cant give away food because it would impact your profits, the real product.
@@Nobody-Nowhere no we mean shitty cities where food waste is at 99% of food brought in compared to the 30% in rural areas.
Our Changing Climate makes the best videos for that!
@@snintendog Yes, capitalism. Where you need to waste food so you could keep them profits.
I believe food waste is bigger issue instead
I'm so glad you mentioned California almonds. It has always bugged me that these farms in the desert choose to grow some of the most water-intensive plants in existence, just because the water they get is taxpayer subsidized.
And rice too. Then they complain about water supplies.
And those growers use high fructose corn syrup to wake up the bees to pollinate the trees...
I mean, it's a blue state. Shouldn't surprise anyone that weird laws shifting blame to others without actually addressing the issue exist.
I’m a Californian. The CA agricultural industry uses 80+% of the water here. While they now cut households once again. And our lakes, ground tables, reservoirs are all near depletion. In CA Orange County, Fullerton, there is a water reclamation facility that purifies black water for drinking use, but it has to put this water back into the ground table, and purify it again before people will drink it. But this black water purification is far cheaper than ocean desalination. Water reclamation facilities statewide should adopt back water reclamation. Btw, on the ISS space station, all liquids inclusive of sweat and urine are purified for drinking. Just saying.
@@DbeeSapphire a lot of human waste is also used for fertilizer as well. Idky people want to live where they shouldn’t
No more plastic straws wrapped in paper, just paper straws wrapped in plastic 👍🏻
Upgrades, people. Upgrades.
Tom Macdonald nice
@Warinut We are not outmodes, we are not scrap, and we will not be treated like this!
It’s still plastic. How about biodegradable bag?
also no paper straws. give us metal straws to wash afterward. i hate paper straws
The Military is the largest consumer of primary fossil fuel energy in the United States. Since 2001, the DOD has consistently consumed between 77 and 80 percent of all US government energy consumption.
One of the things that upsets me the most about this is how much food goes to waste before even making it to a table. Grocery stores and supermarkets throw out so much food every year, and a lot of that food is in more expensive things, like meats. Some studies are showing 43 BILLION pounds of food are just thrown away every year, all for the psychological effect of a plentiful shelf bringing people back to shop more often. Why are we so focused on the land used or the emissions of the food we buy while half of what stores sell ends up in landfills?!
Another example is the army.
In Israel army the amount of food that is being wasted is huge.
And it's not even being donated.
Plus there are not many organizations that donate food waste for people in need
This is deliberate policy on the part of government agencies like the USDA. They subsidize overproduction on purpose. If you don't have extra food, you run the risk of famine when there are supply disruptions. If you do have extra food, some of it will always go to waste.
I have started OMAD.
I worked at a supermarket and yes they do get rid of so much food!!! Meats that could have just been frozen before the Best Buy date, veggies and fruits with small dents or bruises. I was trained to get rid of food with the slightest imperfections just so that I can look like I am working.
I used to work at a small bakery and its crazyyy how much was wasted every single day. They literally wouldn't let us take anything home and when a friend organized a food bank they even denied that smh
Its the same in the restaurant business trusts me
They wouldn’t let you take home the baked goods that didn’t get sold? I work at a cupcake shop, the closing retail people always take home or give away what doesn’t get sold that day.
There's this café/coffee shop chain called pret a manger and they donate all leftover food to homeless shelters at the end of every day. Idk if they are in America but I always try to support them.
See here's the capitalist reason why companies don't do that. If workers knew they could take home wasted food, they'd purposely make extra food so that there would be waste to take home. Companies would consider that wasted money so they don't want that to happen. They'd rather waste food than risk more money spent on food that isn't really wasted. And yes, I know there are situations where food is gonna be wasted anyway, but they don't care, it's the principle of the matter to them.
bakery=fakery=diabetes
Damn I wish I had this guys argumentative skills when im writing essays for school lmao
True or just talking to someone
Wow it’s almost as if I was making a joke about how writing essays are hard and some brain dead TH-cam commenters can’t seem to understand the point of humor
Plus I said ARGUMENTATIVE skills meaning his way of flowing from one topic to the next while also using evidence to support his claim, the entire point of my JOKE
Maybe you should consider he fact that some people on the internet aren’t trying to start an argument every where they go. Stop looking for connections when there are none
@Hans Wurst Hans, go eat another wurst, you’re not yourself when you’re hungry ;)
You could start by fighting people here in the comments. Trust me, it's fun
I know right lmao
We have that no waste Wednesday here in Korea. School meals are usually more tasty and are comprised of menus students actually like so they won't throw it away as much.
It's awful just how much food does go to waste when people are starving regardless.
Yes. Here in Portugal if you produce more oranges than you should they will literally make you burn them all. It’s crazy. And a lot of people would be begging to have those oranges to eat.
Not to mention we have to do our best not to waste food even if we can’t achieve perfection. I’m a vegan and once I accidentally bought something that had eggs on it. Even if it went against my morals I gave it to my mother because although I hate the consumption of eggs (and other animal products) I could never waste something merely for moral beliefs.
We’ll. Lots of vegetables wasted here in Philippines. How do you eat food like when you’re already full but you have to eat it to not waste food? Also that Nikocado guy…. really annoying.
@@TheAdventurerAndDiscoverer you know about nikado avocado?
What’s the difference between wasting it and shitting it back out? Do I just ship it overseas to the people who want it?
starving people in some developed country like USA can be solved, but if they came from undeveloped country like Africa, it may not possible mainly because there is not much farm there and transport food from developed country to there took a big cost
*What I've Learned* from this video is that people like to think of numbers like they are all same.
Numbers are literally all the same. It's humans that give numbers value
@@SpiritBox_ bro stop trying to act smart u don’t know what ur talking about
@@joshgoldstein8309 he is right though, numbers dont have value by themselves.
@@calin6327 Quantity is an inherent property of reality. Numbers are just a way for us to properly express the quantity of an object. Numbers and quantity are fundamental to reality and are by law of nature, different from eachother as well as immutable unless forced to change by some force acted upon them.
@@93rwolf finally someone who gets it
9:25 In the same paper, they also write that byproducts from crop production, food processing and wastes only acoount for 30% of livestock feed; the rest steming from agricultural land explicitly used for feed production. In the paper they do point out, that not all of this area is convertible into land for crop production, but a third would be convertible.
The thing is we don't actually need more land to grow food. There is plenty of space already used, on rotation that yields enough to feed the world more than once on just those yields alone.
would be also interesting to look at where the differences in feeding methods and so lie between an industrial livestock farming and that of a normal farmer. Because i think that the amount of byproducts from food production will be much higher in the last one.
Empty areas could be used to grow forests for oxygen.
We waste a third of our food. We don't need more land to grow food. We need better management system and public awareness on the topic as well.
But we might need LESS land for agriculture
The answer is always somewhere in the middle. Less food waste yes, make sure animals get the organic food waste to recycle. But less livestock is a positive. The non crop land tat is for growing grass could be planted with trees to absorb greenhouse gasses. The best solution is something called agroforestry. Combine widely spaced trees all throughout every type of land. You can still graze and cut crops around trees and they keep the soil healthy. Combining trees throughout all agricultural land is the key.
Also the horrendous cruelty to intensively farmed animal's has to stop. Lab grown meat or total free range should be the only options.
I was searching for this comment, thank you!🫶 Food Forests are such an interesting topic! And although it is not in the topic of the video, I sometimes get the feeling that people forget how much animals in the industry suffer...
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I used to work for a crop protection chemicals company. There was a presentation once that 40% of crops are wasted because of insect or fungal damage, improper storage, inefficient transportation, unaesthetic looking produce
can the cattle eat them?
is it faster to turn manure into ferlitizer than raw trash to fertilizer?
SOMEONE DO A VIDEO ON THIS
unaesthetic looking produce is one of my favourite kinds of produce
@@montolonzo3836 I used to work on a cattle farm in Maine. No, The amount of time it takes to turn fecal matter into manure is not inherently more efficient than vegetable matter. However, it is not possible to composte large amounts of animal biproducts such as meat and intestines or all the organ meat that is wasted yearly from swine farming, or certain organ meats like cows brains (since it is illegal to sell in the united states for health reasons)
However, mechanical creation of fertilizer through compression is a faster process and does not take or waste any straw. This method is more common in densely populated areas.
@@TheParadiseParadox and it's cheaper!
there isn't ONE thing that can save the planet, but there are MANY things that we can do to make our planet a better place for everyone. It's all about efficiency, knowledge and balance
Exactly, and eating almost zero beef (it's the least efficient one) and less meat in general it's one of them.
funny thing is the planets fine the people living on it are the ones screwed
@@axxura5286 yes, you are right! Maybe I should have written "the planet", instead of "our planet". We, humans, need to understand that Earth is not our property, we are just living here and ultimately, we are living thanks to it.
@@jakkonexus1166 you think so? Grazing animals prevent desertification of marginal land. That land would require a lot of diesel fuel, pesticides, and chemical fertilizer to produce crops if the beef cattle were taken out of the equation.
The planet doesn't need any saving. It'll continue just fine long after we're extinct.
The general takeaway from this is:
"Don't take statistics at face value. Look deeper and you'll find that there's a lot more nuance to it than what they're telling you."
EDIT: That applies to this video, too. I'm certain What I've Learned would expect it of us to follow up on all the information given in this video ourselves by doing our own research and arriving at our own conclusions.
Aka use critical thinking instead of w/e is trending.
@arcguardian i tryed and i am still not convinced by that video on some points, like comparing rice and steak. yep, maybe better than comparing watter and foi gras.
Eh, agreed as a general rule, but much of this video feels clearly spun in favor of animal agriculture
Most of what I watched was a flat out lie, I’m from a feedlot town and my dad works for the feedlot in water management, this video is lying.
@@natures1stgreen240 why is it lying?
the reason we hear things like this is because big corporations are trying to make it seem like it’s something we are responsible for and that we could be doing something about it, instead of the other way around. it’s a distraction from what all of this environmental damage is really coming from.
In an era where wildlife has been limited to smaller and smaller areas due to the fact that humans keep taking land, calling land not used by humans "wasted" is a really weird thing to say.
It definitely is weird but I feel like a lot of the surrounding areas of these lands that would be “wasted” aren’t those that a lot of wildlife could/would necessarily live on. Even tho these lands might not be fully developed, they’re close enough in proximity to developed areas that wildlife may not be as present anyway
We're talking about land not used by humans but used to grow food for animals grown to feed humans. Simples
Sure, kill like one 3rd of the population on earth and we won't need those lands, right now, if it's not growing food, it's wasted
I feel like it’s a fair measure. If it’s not under the control of humans, then the emission from it are not benefiting humans and thus the emissions are wasted.
@@mohsenvh3619 Thats why incrising the effinency (that means, kalories/unit land) is important.
one way to achive this is by eating vegetabels, not the cow that ate 9 times as many vegetables to produce the same amout of food.
(there exist vegetation and junk that can be used by animals, but not by humans directly. But the vast majority of livestock is feed by crops espacialy grown to feed livestock)
And land not used direktly to produce food is not wasted.
e.g. it can bind carbon emissions, sink water from heavy rain events, sustan species (e.g. bees) that are very relevent to our survival, and many aspects more that we do not fully understand.
This is why statistics need CONTEXT!
Yep. There's was a violent crime statistic being bandied about a few months ago, areas reporting as high as a 400% increase in violent crime!
That little town went from 2 violent assaults the year before, to 8.
@@giin97 Which town was it?
@@theholytoilet6668 been to long, I don't remember. Just remember how comical it was for them to describe it that way.
Yes, like in 16:45 where they say that in the us producing is more efficient without mentioning that that's because of the specific breed of cows they use to get milk😐
That wouldn't fit.
I hope science channels will respond to this. Either they will agree and it will be confirmed as accurate or they will disagree and make it more accurate by pointing out flaws, so basically a win win either way.
This
You can't trust science either.
@@myxomatosis149 you're a clown.
@@rasputozen Did you just imply that youtube """science""" channels ARE the scientific method?
@@MrStinkels read his comment carefully, he is responding to the person that doesn't believe in science and is asking him for what else he uses instead of science, which uses the scientific method to arrive at conclusions.
You have a brilliant channel. Amazing work. Keep speaking the truth!
It's a tale as old as time: The corporations that are actually causing harm are shifting the blame...
...exactly
Lol why suddenly corporation out of nowhere? Even if everyone were vegan, we would still rely on corporation to provide food n other vegan stuff..... which ironically helped the vegans to sustain the veganism itself.
You do realize corporations also produce vegetables?
Corporations make the meat
@@phimolenacukh They want us all to go vegan because it's the most unhealthy way to go! Silicon Valley billionaires are called the "vegan mafia" because they created this trend! Not even after agriculture we started eating anything else more than animal protein... it was not only until the modernization came that we began to eat more vegetables than meat! And we drink milk since even before agriculture came along
Hi! I' from Chile, here natural water from rivers are deviated to prodice avocado and our land is drying so fast, there's people without access to water due to the avocado industry, PLEASE DO NOT BUY CHILEAN AVOCADO IF YOU SEE THEM IN YOUR COUNTRY
Okay
Thank you for bringing this to my attention! I will most certainly be keeping an eye out, and not purchase them if I see they’re grown from there!
Yummy avacado
And let them go to waste?
I think in Israel where a lot of avocados are grown for the European market, they already found a more sustainable way of growing avocados by reusing water 💪 maybe that will be a future solution for South America as well
Veganism shouldn’t be used by corporates to deflect attention away from their malpractices. And there are plenty malpractices of various sorts on every diet spectrum.
Malpractices as in adulteration or hormonal therapy?
Veganism raises some moral questions on eating animals ive been more concerned about the ethical argument for veganism
You can always make most of those recipes at home, so its okay i guess.
@@y0urh0mew0rk trees have no consciousness
you should probably start trying actively not to kill these
A really different perspective to the current trending points out there that really got me reflecting. Thanks for putting this out into the world 🌎
Sees the title
Yeah this is going to be interesting
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Diego. You not The first
Stop
@@Victoria-on8we yes I am
The overloading of all the blame for our environment will always be directed at the regular consumer.
The term carbon footprint was made up by BP.
You’d expect it to be an eco organisation that’s trying to point out waste, but it’s actually a term made up by BP so that the consumer feels responsible.
They tell you that you’re responsible for what seems like a huge amount of pollution, meanwhile they’re polluting vastly more as a company. Then they go and create ecological problems such as oil spills from oil drilling, earthquakes from fracking, droughts from over consumption of water.
But in a way the companies are making things for the consumer, right? So doesn't that mean that the consumer is responsible, and that consumers should alter their lifestyles to ultimately reduce carbon footprint? Not arguing, I'm not too knowledgeable on the subject.
@@leonsage6806 You're partially right (not all the oil and energy produced by big oil companies end up at the end user), but in the end, what'll be easier? Convincing billions of people to give up their personal comforts for a cause bigger than themselves, or forcing one big oil company to restrict their pollution emission?
@@Quote_Cannon I suppose regulations would make it easier to reign in corporations than the public. Imagine filling one big hole, or a billion tiny holes... which do you think would be easier?
Only solution I see is to reduce the population by 75% that of course isn't going to happen. We're just going to keep using everything up and stepping on each other until the end comes.
Fishing has a HUUUUUUGE impact on our oceans ecostsystems. Everyone please take that into consideration.
Yup, around 50-70% of all the plastic waste in the ocean is fishing nets. The European nations has almost killed all the fishes near their country and are now plundering the African continent for their resources. I mean, what else do we expect from these nations who colonised and, hence, exploited a major part of the world.
Ha you think I can afford fish
That's true but fish is VERY healthy. We need to be more sustainable
Watch Seaspiracy my friend
Yeah, overfishing is really dumb because fish populations can restore themselves very fast, as long as we keep enough of them. If we reduced the consumption, just by, for example, requiring people to fish more humane, the impact would be way smaller and a lot less additional sea animals would die
Thank you for making and posting this video! :)
Don't buy into it, it's astroturf propaganda from the meat lobby. Mitloehener gets his funding from the meat industry and his findings goes against the scientific consenus
9:16 you can also compost all of that stuff and turn it into nutrient-rich soil. feeding it to animals isn’t the only thing you can do with it
I do that with my garden :)
How much methane do you think would be released by all of that rotting organic matter? If there are fewer animals to eat the grass etc (which contains atmospheric carbon) won't you actually be doing the opposite of what you intended?
@@reson8 Methane isn’t released in aerobic composting (when rotting material has access to air)
@@sopiabobia3699 If you create large mounds of compostable material, the amount of it which 'has access to air' is only the first 2 inches or so. Once you go deeper than that the available oxygen is quickly used up and anaerobic decomposition occurs (this is one reason why large compost heaps are regularly turned over). If you want your compostable material to not require turning over, you would need huge amounts of space in order to spread it thinly enough, thus defeating the intention of freeing-up land.
The other issue is the length of time the organic matter takes to become useful; this varies substantially depending on location.
Finally, turning otherwise wasteful organic byproducts into something useful consumes lots of fossil fuels, as that's what powers the machinery used.
@@reson8 Great counterpoints lol. I will continue eating meat and composting :) My city composts our green bin material. I wonder if their process is anaerobic
the no waste wednesday thing is a great idea there are a few stores here in utah that sell leafy greens and vegetables that are about a week away from expiration and thats where I get my leafy greens and veggies, food is marked way down what was $5 is now $1 and it usually last up to a week after expiration, there should be more stores that practice that because seeing all that food wasted daily is very sad
Here in South Africa, that's a regular thing for most stores because businesses don't want to lose produce
I have a local store that always has produce on sale when it gets close to expiration. Like you that's how I get most of my leafy greens, veggies and fruit since I usually use it within a day or 2. Not always that much cheaper depending on what it is but at least it's not getting thrown out.
That's so weird having an expiry date on vegetables.....we just look at the vegetable and decide if it's rotten or still "cookable"
In the US the old produce isn't wasted. It's fed to hog farms and used in the manufacture of compost.
This video has been debunked lmao look it up here on youtube
He enlists a scientist who is funded by the meat industry to help him with the video
Lmao
And to compare protein content between meat and rice... how disingenuous lmao
Compare meat vs peanut then we'll talk
This channel is a joke 😂
Also here in california we get next to no rain.... and there are hundreds If not thousands of factory farms around... so no we are definitely using our fresh water reserves to water crops to feed animals
It was also not taken into account that only about 2 percent of the meat we consume is pasture raised
The overwhelming ~98 something percent grew up in the confines of factory farms...
So that discredits this entire video, as the guy who made the video seems to think all cows are pasture raised
Animals in factory farms do not get rained on🌶🌶
As the famous joke goes: "We interviewed 100 people who played the Russian roulette, 100% of them survived. In conclusion, Russian roulette is safe!"
Yeah, stats can be easily misleading...
I dont get it
@@maqyk4648 bro..
@@maqyk4648 They could only interview the ones who survived, since they can't interview the ones who died in the act, so obviously 100% of the people being interviewed survived. So calling it safe is false
In other words, survivorship bias
it simply means people would rather say what they want to tell than to reveal what's actually happened
ty for the effort in making this vid and the links to the opposing side. its nice to see what both parts of the argument have to say. both give new perspectives that you don't really think much about
I'm not worried about the planet and cows.
I'm worried that people believe not eating red meat will save the planet and the reasons why all this is being promoted.
And not eating meat makes you a pussy.
It’s definitely the vocal minority so you’re going to keep hearing it
@Apenas eu did you not watch the video?
@Apenas eu Yeah, but avoiding red meat isn't going to do nearly as much as you think it will do.
That's my worries too.
So we're actually diverting our attention from fossil fuel. Oil companies must be happy with the "eat less meat" campagne.
You’re right about that my friend
Maybe they are the ones that are spreading this trend all along. Not to sound like a conspirator but I would not be surprised, they have the money and power to do so
Plants require massive machines and tractors, harvesters etc. They also grow seasonal so they have to be shipped globally from other countries to make sure you have it fresh everyday. Yes they do depend on massive amounts of fossil fuel especially if the whole population turns to craving fresh fruits and vegetables in every meal every day abusing the natural seasonal production
@@theswissgirl6521 i agree this has taken the spotlight from fosil fuel and narative changed and it's so well done it's hard to be not mislead
@@josecat436 Both crop and livestock agriculture is damaging to the environment due to unsustainable practices, it's not about demand for meat it's how it is supplied but the same can be applied to plants
I went into a camp as a kid and a major thing people kept bring up is 'dont waste food'
This video is debunked lol
The scientist in this video receives funding from the meat industry😘😘😘😘😘🥯🥯🥔
@@25kgplantsmake1kgbeefmosts4 uhu...
@@25kgplantsmake1kgbeefmosts4 ad hominem argument
Είναι αυτό το πραγματικό σου όνομα;
Costas, you have such a long name.
Now everything makes sense, even though I found some departments lacking in this vid, real thanks! :)
We’re learning to recycle wasted food but sadly its just not getting as much attention and push because its dependent on people going out there and physically discerning food and compiling what does work and what doesn’t.
It a simple fix, if the USA government including other countries pay there civilian to clean up and recycle there things.
@@TheDragonfriday they already pay out to garbage truck workers so unless people accept a bill for raising taxes globally to pay for these people, its probably not going to happen. Governments already horde a fair amount of money then nickel and dime their populace. This would require a greater initiative. It'd be simpler to tax excess food waste but then that's gonna get pretty muddy and see way more push back.
I've always been self-conscious of throwing food away, I avoid it as much as I can, how could I recycle it properly?
@@Hot18Shot There's a few non-profit groups that gather towards food dumps or simply just dumps and gather wasted food. They'll typically separate them to what can be recycled and what can't, turn it into something useful. I think I've seen some groups recycle waste for compost to grow stuff. The issue with this is there aren't enough staff, they need more funding for equipment, and no politician actively promotes them because they actually don't give a damn about society, rather their own re-elections and well beings.
Some other guys said we can push for a law that exempts food establishments like bakery and cafe from lawsuit of spoiled foods if it was donated. Basically once the food is donated for soup kitchen or charity organizations they are "at their own risk".Since they can be sued for spoiled foods, this is a solution that benefits both the charity and the bakery
I never thought i would see a graphic of a cow pissing
And you probaly won’t again. enjoy you day
From eating dry hay
@@AlternativeReality When forage is cut, it has 75 to 80 percent moisture and must be dried down to 60 to 65 percent moisture content for haylage and down to 14 to 18 percent moisture content for hay (lower figures for larger bales)
@@WhatIveLearned right! Yeah exactly. It's funny how they had the cow pee after eating dried hay.
@@AlternativeReality you must be from an alternate reality where the digestive track works without breaking down the food into byproducts one of a dried solid lumps the other soluble into water...Man I wish i lived there shitting and pissing sucks.
A never ending battle of who is f***ing up the planet the most.
Or the lie that we are so that the Evil that stalks our lands can guilt/shame/fear their victims into accepting less liberty and handing over of resources and power.
hmm if this is a battle this video is a loss.. lol very poor
@@lennytriem1942 liberty is freedom to do anything including raising cattle mr muppet.
Because world is full of Snake oil/smear merchants along with charlatans.
@@TheBelrick
The CCP China: "This is America?... Pathetic."
When the CCP is more sane than the dead nation of liberty... Why am I not surprised by the human race.
Thank you! Your final thoughts will be my "punchline" from now on:
"Instead of meatless mondays no-food-waste wednesdays are more worth it."
Wasteless Wednesday!
We need more Organic meat not cheap meat, but we eat cheap meat in the US so meantless monday is a solution.
We need more Organic meat, but we eat cheap meat in the US so meatless monday can be a solution but better is higher regulation for Animals and less imported meat from Argentine and India
I always hated wasting food. When I don't finish my meal (it happens often) my chickens help me finish it :). I live in a Slavic country so having chickens is really common where I live. Love these animals!
intelligent
Win win situation. You don't waste so much food, your chickens need less extra feed and you get their eggs in return.
Chickens even eat chicken they are awesome. They make delicious eggs after too!
Chickens are great recyclers. Everything except potato peels is ok for chickens, so that's a lot!
Chickens are absolute legends
Grocery stores in America are ridiculously well stocked. It's so rare to see gaps in the shelves. I can't even imagine how much of it must get thrown out.
about 3/5
Shelf stable food rarely gets thrown out, but meats and produce are regularly 'rotated.'
@@Orinslayer theie usually given to resteraunts and food banks their not that wasteful.
@@Orinslayer because meat can be reprocessed, but vegetables not that easily
A lot gets frozen
Who else want to see kurzgesagt and Mark Rober's reactions?
ikt
I want
@@missanthropy6174 tf
@@missanthropy6174 tf
@@missanthropy6174 what an ignorant thing to say.
This video send me down a rabbit hole. Learning about the misinformation and vested interests presented here, let me to become vegan a few months later
Same!!
A lot of the issues with agricultural emissions can be solved with more regenerative farming methods, and a general reduction of food waste, which means lowering our consumption that goes beyond our reasonable needs
??????????????? vague statement. we should do all we can agaisnt the climate crisis, that includes eating less anima products, goign vegan if you can.
Bruh, it's not thr individual person causing this. If everyone stopped eating meat and stuff the billionares would still trash the climate to make more money.@@StudioSkiesAndWater
@@StudioSkiesAndWaterWhat @yourneighbourino424 means is that the current forms of both conventional and organic agriculture are not sustainable, and the issues caused by them (deforestation, erosion, nutrient runoff, desertification, ...) far outweigh any impact animals have. Research Conservation Agriculture if you want to know more.
@@StudioSkiesAndWater no thanks. veganism doesn't help anything bro.
says the guy that's probably never tried it or hasn't met people IRL
@@fancyelk2373
so basically,,, eat what you need, use your car less, and try to buy most products locally
Like that's ever gonna happen
Or just do whatever since the earth is already doomed
sell your car and buy a bicycle, cars are one of the greatest evils we ever created it is somethign only to be used when absolutely necessary. like for building, emergency tansport and such. never just out of convenience.
@@BitchChill no it is not doomed, we can repair anything but it will be uncomfortable and everyone has to get thier hands dirty
@@cleansyak Exactly, we humans will find the solutions. Problems = opportunities.
I'm actually the most shocked by the amount of food wasted. growing up I was always taught to never waste food, dont get more than you need etc etc so it never occurred to me that there could be that much waste since I usually try not to waste food.
Most of the wastage happens way before you actually see the food. Agriculture wastes loads of perfectly edible food because the carrots look too wonky etc.
@@olliepope5775 that is a myth, that is throwing away money, lots of that stuff gets used in precut products or animal food
You were raised right, but sometimes, and there's definitely no data for how common this is, you can be raised right but just frequently misjudge your portions and/or whoever cooks at home cooks too much, but you don't really have the heart to tell a parent for example to stop caring so much for you that they're giving you so much food.
While you might not waste anything that you buy we as a society waste the food collectively. Grocery stores throw out loads and loads of food, especially easily spoiled stuff like fruits and vegetables. So for every say two cucumbers you buy we as a society throw away one.
In the US at least we have a habit of hunting for 'deals' so you are encouraged to buy large amounts of something for more money because it's cheaper per unit. In reality we spend more for too much stuff and throw away a large portion.
It’s crazy how people look to find a scapegoat to blame global warming on and they chose to ignore the most widespread thing contributing to global warming ‘cars’. They ignore it because they like their cars/trucks and can’t imagine not having them, but they can with meat.
This sounds like every vegan person was like "You have to stop eating animal products because of the environment!!!" which isn't the case (for most vegans). Every vegerterian/vegan person I know (me included) does it for a number of reasons but the biggest reason is usually that we don't want animals to suffer.
@@labow12Animals does not have human life. They suffer who care they are food.
@@Egg-wt1pk found the sociopath
Ive been thinking about this too. Freezing the food that’s usually expected to go to waste and selling it at a lower cost. Using spoiled food as a source of bio fuel. Shipping unbought frozen goods to places in need, like homeless shelters, poor family’s, refugee camps, struggling countries. We have a lot of potential solutions, I think videos like this will lead the way.
Your idea is absolutely ridiculous because it makes absolute sense. Money can't be made off of such idea's the idea is to make people spend money not save it.
I like where your head is. Something to consider: shipping could be harmful too. Local unused food going to local homeless people is better imo.
@@nicktorea4017 He is talking about saving food, not money. The Idea was not saving money, you are the one thinking wrongly here.
Loved this!
Excellent ideas! We as a society need to take back control of our food and think more about the current model and reliance on supermarkets. So many people could grow foods themselves even in modest gardens, yet we're paying for food and packaging flown into our countries.. it's crazy. And local farms are not supported which were the primary source of foods in the past. We need to cut out the middle guys food manufacturers and supermarkets and go straight to the source (local farms) for foods we can't grow or produce ourselves.
Actually, the most water usage for crops, in the USA, is lawn grass. Between housing, parks, golf course, game fields, the random bits of beautification grass ( think of the patches in mediums, on the sides of expressways, inside parking lots) and it becomes the single greatest use of water
True lol
I hope you're not thinking of replacing that grass with concrete. There are better ways to use that space. Gardens use less water, better yet if it's a xeriscape garden or if native species are used, since they're adapted to the rainfall in that region. Gardens are better for wildlife, too (bonus points if native species are used), much better than a sterile lawn.
Recycle used plastic to make fake grass = more water for food crops
@@nickvaden3196 where are getting that? I offered no hint of a suggestion for a replacement, merely correcting an error in the video. And as for your own replacements; it depends on your aims and goals.
Going pure utilitarian, then one should get rid of the concept of individual housing to being with.
Pure "natural" then total global euthanasia is required.
And even worse, a lot of lawn care is MANDATED by cities or suburbs. If you have an "ugly" lawn, you can literally BE FINED for not taking care of it forcing people to waste more resources on it.
Honestly, lawns are one of the most unhealthy pieces of infrastructure we have. There needs to be a solution found to convert most lawns into something far more sustainable. Maybe something like using more hearty native wild plants that dont need as many artificial resources while also supporting more native ecosystems as most lawn grass is an Invasive species to begin with.
There one extra source to mention: Deforestation. Most of deforestation on Amazon are for cattle and soy (to export to use as cattle food in China mainly). In Brazil and in countries that import meat and soy from Brazil, eating less meat have a better positive impact.
Note that Brazil is one of the top pollutants, but we have a rather clean powegrid (mostly hydroelectric) and almost all cars can run on ethanol that is wildly available. Most pollution comes from deforestation.
Thank you!! When forests can remain forests, they can function like a carbon sink and absorb more carbon!!
66,3% of Brazil’s land is untouched
Just look at how* much does Brazil use its arable land for actual crops vs livestock
yes!! i see a lot of random facts “they drink all the water! they eat our food!” i never heard those!!
here in paraguay so. much. land. has been deforested for cattle (also for exportation!!)
brazil being our neighbors also had these problems: fires and floods.
we, the “third world” countries have to pay for all the deforestation so we can export meat and leather to europe and asia
You can't forget that if we get rid of cattle we need to then keep taking up more space from forests just so the planet doesn't have a lack of fruits grains and vegetables
Thank you so much for this video, we need more honest, well researched, eye opening content like this 🙏
This is why my parents always taught me and my siblings a thing about food. DO NOT WASTE ANY FOOD.
What should u do if ur full
Why people refuse to eat food? Do they want to be starved?
@@alehlete830 Eat until your stomach is about to pop
@@alehlete830 Put it in your fridge/freezer or give it to someone else.
@@alehlete830 eat it later? Lmao
It’s basically a battle of the industries, and we’re just pawns and cheerleaders for them
That's why I just want to live rural off the land away from it all.
This is scary..
This is true. The more people that see this the better more knowledgeable decisions we can make. Look at who funds the studies and research you're looking at.
True, the save Ralph is also is the same patterns, why tell us to not use beauty product that test on animal instead of totally stop using beauty product? It can save environment if we all stop use beauty products!!. Oh right, if people stop using all beauty product then they can’t make money too.lolololol.
So true
"numbers will confess to anything if you torture them" -a physics professor
Wow
Beautiful
this video is a great example of it. The "non-edible" could become fertilizer. Manure that is pollutant if not dealt properly woudnt even be needed.
It could also become biofuel or plastics too.
@@bernardeugenio
No. The non-edible DOES become fertilizer... and meat, eggs, dairy, and leather.
Some of it COULD also become biofuel or plastics - which would require more investment of energy and other resources.
Read the response by the researchers at the Johns Hopkins Center for a Livable
Future to Dr Mitloehner paper and research.
The fact that so many people in the comments are talking about food waste is encouraging. It shows that they actually watched the whole video.
as someone who has done agriculture science and has a farm that only has limited areas of plantable land im glad that this is being brought up. i e always found it hard to explain these points but you did it really well in this video and i hope more people can see it
The points are not valid or genuine or realistic
@@mexicanmuslim why?
@@mexicanmuslim why? U been farming both crops and livestock?
@@mexicanmuslim id def eat a whole steak in front of u
@@mexicanmuslim Now explain why?
Fun fact: there was a time when cows were fed other cow remains.
Funny disease: bovine spongiform encephalopathy
Yea your brain rotting away and dying shortly after basically turning into a zombie big fun xd
Mad cow disease?
@@ethannlew860 yes
@@tamasloso7322 check out the old videos for mad 🐮 cow.
Fun Fact: *what?*
I would've appreciated if you talked about the role the ocean and fishindustry play. Nobody ever talks about it.
Seaspiracy. Look it up on netflix! Its great!
Well, the fish are derived from the ocean ecosystem which is based on algae so there isn’t really a negative effect other than just producing a normal amount of CO2 and O2, in general, it’s a very balanced ecosystem.
The ocean is the world's oxygen filter, however people don't seem to care. More pollution blocks sunlight for algae to form. Water acidity also plays a role, especially when you see red tide.
Microplastics could be a cause, however the biggest impact to reduce is man itself. The population is too big and growing. Reducing the population will reduce the strain of producing goods and foods.
no one talks about it? You can find plenty of people on this very platform talking about it. I rather see one topic covered in some depth than 25 different things brushed over in 15 minutes. We've got the evening news for that.
@@henriquejun4771 No that isn't the issue- fish pops are going down and massive amounts of plastic waste is produced by the industry. Fish movements also help mixing the ocean carbon cycling it.
It is weird to hear that cows and chickens don’t eat human food. I am a farmer in Brazil, and all the chickens I know eat corn, and all cows that are not grass fed eat soybeans.
My grandparents are also farmers in Brazil and they definitely don't eat the same food as us, they eat what looks like husks.
When you got to the section about the kind of land that livestock use, my old rural brain I haven't used in over a decade ticked over and said, "Not all land is equal. You can raise cattle on land you'd never plow over."
That's what he said...
Cattle grazing does make land infertile. That's a big reason for deforestation in Africa.
Most of the animals in the world don't get fed by leftovers but by crops separately farmed for them.
You can google it.
@@okman9684that doesn't sound right. I thought if you rotate sites, don't overgraze, and manage the pastures, cattle would add to the environment. I mean, manure alone should make for super fertile land.
@@katrinab7657 Animal farming CAN be sustainable. But not in the current scale.
We really need to reduce the animal products we eat (and generally buy, It's Not only food).
@@offifee8022 we really need to reduce the amount of grains we eat, and generally use. Not only food.
Watch the video. 1Kg of meat is not the same amount of food as 1Kg of rice. 200g of meat can easily be your only meal for the day, while 200g of rice will leave you hungry an hour or two later.
Worked in a grocery store for a few years. The amount of waste was staggering. We donated much of the "expired" canned goods to food banks and such though. However, produce, meat, etc. quickly filled up the dumpster. Employees could not purchase meat that was out of date for legal reasons, sigh, even on the day after it supposedly expired. When some of us tried to order less product to reduce waste we were directed to keep everything packed full (shelves, displays and such) because it looked "empty" otherwise. Okay, that led to products not being rotated correctly, which led to more waste. The 'horrors' of a product running low or even out for a few days maximum was too disturbing I guess. But then, many people get upset if a place is out of stock on something and shop elsewhere - only to find the same out of stock issue other places. Learned a lot and have always made not wasting food a priority from an early age. Oh well, I tried.
My first day in the produce department for a large, semi-local grocery store chain, my manager pulled me aside and told me that basically the only things worth buying in a grocery store are located in the meats, dairy, and produce sections.
@@ZacksRockingLifestyle Have heard similar. Also heard that for some stores 80% of their profit comes from 20% of what they sell; meaning that staples tend to be cheap to draw customers in but buy a furnace filter, for example, it will be marked up pretty well. Impulse purchases are usually marked up significantly.
@@DanSpotYT That sounds about right. I can't share proprietary data, but every time I get an update, it's a few departments bringing in all the money. But, if we cut the nonprofitable areas of the store, you wouldn't get people coming into the store at all. It's like air conditioning. It is a cost, but these days if you haven't got it, then people are not going to do any shopping at your store, so stores pay for it anyways.
If you have a food co-op in your town, shop there because they are less wasteful. Prices are better too since they aren’t for-profit.
Question: Why did he keep mentioning Japan along side USA? Usa is obvious because it's the "main" country that most of these videos talk about but why japan? Is this youtuber in Japan? He did mention that he visited a diary farm in Japan. Or is it because the guy giving the information is living in Japan?
You can't really judge countries on emissions based on production only, since many of the developing countries that produce more, hence higher emissions, export their products to the countries that might yes, emit less, but consume and import more of it. So consumption should be taken into account as well regarding emissions. Only because your country "emit less" in its territory, it doesn't mean it doesn't contribute to it in other ways, like through imports.
I was thinking about that like Afghanistan probably imports a lot of food but has a low emission i would imagine but it was surprising to find that China imports the most food and also produces the most greenhouse gases.
What if we put tariffs on meat imports? I occasionally eat a $1 steak that I specially tenderize myself. It would mean nothing to me if it cost $2.
@@kurtshaw229 That probably means china is inefficient in how they produce. China is probably in an economic bubble though so don't know how that's gonna go.
@@kurtshaw229 The Chinese household burning coal brisket to keep warm in the winter. That and the coal powered generator produces a lot of greenhouses.
Got the same thought :
15:20 It would have been quite better to have unbiased sight to show what part of the total meat each country produces instead of just saying Developped countries are responsible for 20% of C02 emissions ( for which part of the world total production??? That would be relevant . ) , While 80% for developping countries . Sure, if they produce more meat, they are responsible for more gas emissions.
I watched this video and was impressed with the ideas here… until I looked up Dr. Frank Mitloehner (the only scientific source in that video). Dude has received a ton of funding funding from the commercial meat industry… He’s a really sketchy source. If you look him up, you’ll get the idea.
whoa we don't need to learn about that
we just want our consumption of stuff to be justified
Having only one source is sus in itself
I wonder how many liters of coffee went into the production of this video
lmaaaao
Underrated comment.
I don't think joseph drinks coffe, maybe green tea.
Don't worry, all them coffee will return to the ground when he takes a pee
Someone had to say it. XD
In Taiwan, we feed all recycled food waste (which is part of the country's recycling system) to pigs, and we have a lot of them with the large pig growing industry. It's horrifying when I first come to the US as all food waste goes to landfills despite some higher education orgs attempt new ways to deal with food waste, which doesn't make sense for me.
Their food waste can't be eaten by their livestocks cuz there's not enough livestock to eat it.
Because profit margins and taxes.
And they like their pork tasting like nothing.
Also not enough pigs so they just don't even try because reasons
@@NanashiCAST who are you talking about? What do you think they feed pigs here in the states?
In Poland from few years restaurants, bakers, canteens or similar can't give away wasted food, or food not able too sell. Even homeless can't get something. Everything has to be thrown into bin. Otherwise restaurants will have cash mandate. Sick low.
It starts from EU. Previously that what children don't eat in school was given to pigs.
I hope you understand
@@NanashiCAST because vegans.
I feed my fruit & vegetable scraps/waste to my chickens, and they convert that into eggs. It's a beautiful cycle.
Mufasa would be proud
You are still exploiting animals. Try learning how to compost instead. It's extremely easy.
@@xenithsanguine Isn't compost food scraps/uneaten food?
@@JC-vp7pd Yes, it can be one of the major ingredients. Why?
@@WatchStuffWithMe What you just used is called an appeal to futility logical fallacy. Just because horrible things happen does not mean you have the right to continue perpetuating those horrible things. 80/20 rule. Stop horrible things happening in the easiest most practicable way possible (what you stick in your pie hole) first, then solve the other smaller problems that are harder to solve. You can in fact make the world a better place. You just got to be smart about it. We can tackle those other problems after you convince yourself to stop hurting animals for taste buds.
Interesting selection of data points.
I grew up on a sheep-farm where we also grew hay that we sold to others. The idea that all of this land could be used to grow vegetables for human consumption is ridiculous. At least in my country, growing vegetables is waaay more profitable than any other type of farming, so if a farmer sees that he has the soil to do so- trust me, he's already doing it. My father would always be so envious of vegetable-farmers, but we just didn't have the land for it, lol.
This. So much farmland near my hometown is completely unsuited for cash crop or veg. Hay only. The only big vegetable growers locally are industrial warehouse-sized greenhouse operations
What kind of land do you have? Rocky? Urbanite here😅
on the other hand, if, for example, the state would subsidize the land so that natural meadows or scrubland could be created there - instead of grassland, then this could contribute to biodiversity.
@Yuragi Choo as far as i know, in the EU there are subsidies for organic farming. So, I think, that my previous point is at least worth mentioning :)
Facts
Cool, now I got both sides of the story and will use this information to come up with my own opinion on the subject and act accordingly without simply doing what someone else tells me to do.
Thank you for informing us of your divine intellect. I hope to be as bright as you one day.
Huzzah, a man of quality
*hint hint*
I do not care
cringe
98% of people are not farmers and probably 96% of people probably think to make crops grow you just throw seeds on the ground and they will grow without problems.
Ah yes, only farmers can have an opinion on farming
This can literally be used against any opinion
Regardless of profession stats don’t lie and the stats continue to lean towards vegansim
@@lofdraws7006 Yuck
@@lofdraws7006in which delusion is that true?
Well then vegans can eat all of the wheat. Even the roots and leaves. Perhaps they'll evolve multiple chambered stomachs...
Vegans are uninformed cattle.
Could be.
But the thing is, most crops are fed to animals. So all the issues of crop farming come on top for the majority of animal products, where the animals are Not fed grass from existing and Not more sensfully usable grassland and leftovers.