The Golden Age of the Internet Is Over
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ก.ย. 2024
- The modern day internet and the direction it's going with social media and online communication may be viewed as...dystopian for some, and with good reason. But things weren't always this way, in fact, there was once a time where things were far more hopeful than they are today. The internet forums, the old youtube, message boards, meme sites, and overall a much more expressive era. Perhaps there are lessons to be learned from that time period, from the golden age of the internet.
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UPDATE: Im aware this was briefly on front page of reddit and r/videos (which is amazing)! And it was later removed, some people thought it was shadowbanning or something suspicious, but truth is I have been banned from that sub since 2017 (a few friends used to post my vids, without my asking), so its a legitimate post removal if anyone was curious. Either way I do appreciate the support and Im glad people resonated with this video, thats all I could ask for. You can check out my social media links in the video description if interested.
why were you banned to begin with?
Glink He’s lying
reddit mods drooling all over their keyboard
I knew it! I was going crazy searching this all over reddit, I was wondering why it just disappeared. Awesome Vid still man.
Peets friends used their accounts to promote my vids years ago, was considered self promotion
Nerds, Gamers, Bloggers, Content Creators. Long ago, the four corners of the internet lived together in harmony. Then, everything changed when the Corporations attacked.
Only the geek, master of all four elements could stop them, but when the world needed them most, they cancelled their accounts with no goodbye
A hundred months passed and my online friend and I discovered the new Geek, an intenetbender named aang2004.
nah man, the REAL internet bender is filthy frank
@@arch4ngel so 2029
@@warasphalt3032
You must unlock the 7th chromosome. Without it, you cannot attain full understanding of the omniverse, and the Fire Lord will defeat you. Pink guy, set aside all worldly attachments.
The internet was great when it was a retreat from the world. Now it -is- the world.
There's a meme that says this, going out is a retreat from the internet
volving and revolving as the cycle goes
it reminds me of that boomer meme which goes like:
1996: boutta take a break from reality (goes on the internet)
2016: boutta take a break from reality (goes outside)
sound bad but kinda has a point.
Very 14. Very deep.
@@TheFlyingTurtleArchive 14? Like 14 turtles? What the f is 14 turtles mean!
the internet was ruined when companies realized they could monetize people’s communication
Yep. Before that the Internet was basically the Wild West.
@Rwaggy Rwuper Rwinstincts because it is. or was
Screw corporations making money off our information, lets sell it ourselves
It was planned for that from the beginning
Spøøky Jim that’s capitalism baby
For me the internet died after 2015 everything just went downhill, especially when politicians, corporations, and news outlets started using it for commercialization.
Yeah, everything is more political now... Even the trends... Treating minorities like fashion even started to catch on then...
People will eventually move on to the next minority that is trending and do activism on that one, then they eventually lose interest in being vocal about X minority and move on to the next one... That's questionable, really... I don't mean any harm at all but why are we treating stuff like that as a trend? Why are things political? Why can't we just have fun?
@@auravisionsdeluxe2885 Dude yes it’s like with the Alt community like what happened to worrying about band tour dates or band breakups or looking forward to new albums nope it’s all about politics, sexuality, and bs activism.
@@carsarenice Yeah...
@@carsarenice For me the golden age started in 2010 but died in 2015.
2016 was the beginning of the downfall imo
@@tiruliru1189 sorry to disagree but why 2010? Seems way too late, I think TH-cam was a better place before TH-camrs started click baiting, having super corny over edited thumbnails etc things of that nature.
I remember when you were an idiot for putting your personal information online but today 15 years later you're encouraged to do it.
Why did we allow this to happen?
Honestly though. We have to start trying to reverse this horrible change
Corporations steered us towards this because they knew it'd be a money printing machine and a way to control us all in one. Throughout history the powers that be have always had a knack for tricking us into signing away our rights of our own free will.
And I guarantee if we do try to break out of it, maybe even reignite an age of free communication and independent sites, they'd just find a way to reign us back in. Either through the power of the market or the power of the state. The information age has given them a taste of absolute power, and they won't let go.
@@unregisteredassaultbutterk1185 What a defeatist outlook. Even if we win we lose? Yeah, no. Just because a mountain is high doesn't mean its insurmountable.
@@HeyImLucious I'm not defeatist. When I say they'd just find a way to reign us back in, I'm implying that simply bringing the internet back to an age of freedom is not enough.
If we want a genuine return to anonymity and privacy on the internet, it'll mean breaking up the corporate powers that rule us. Anything less than total elimination and they'll just rise up to shackle us again.
@@unregisteredassaultbutterk1185 I'll happily get behind that, then. My apologies for rushing to conclusions, I see far too many people who have genuinely resigned hope that its made me pretty upset. So I tend to jump the gun at trying to bring them back into reality.
Just remember TH-cam once had the slogan “broadcast yourself”
Holy shit, when did that stop?
@@mckali9999 I might be wrong but I assume it happened right around when Google took over. Maybe 1-2 years after that.
Edit: Nah I was dumb. Google took over in 2006. Pretty sure the slogan was still around in 2010ish.
Bitchute
"Advertise Yourself"
@@mckali9999 They got rid of it around 2013/14ish
I miss the days when people would make content and post just to make content and post.
Nowadays people make content FOR the algorithm and FOR advertisers.
anthpo yep
I mean, if it allows it then it's easy money. Only fool would let such an occasion slip away
Everyone is fake.
That's dead
That's why I rarely go to the mainstream channels on TH-cam. Some of them I'll watch but for the most part I go for random stuff on here and a lot of times those channels that host those videos don't have millions of subscribers.
It’s funny how the the golden age of most types of media ended when corporations became part of the equation.
Corporatism is the death of creativity
Teddy Roosevelt must be doing barrel rolls in his grave at the current state of things.
@@FredDurst1 damn straight Fred Durst.
We could have plenty of gold ages related to media and tech. The only thing in the way is corporate greed
As soon as money became available, the big boys arrived.
"Lets face it, the internet has become corp-"
*AD*
get TH-cam Vanced
Like in this videos, but hey... We need to eat.
EXACTLY
Yes it has
Same here wtf the irony
The internet used to be so nice before everyone and their mom showed up.
Cookie's House Cannabis Co
Basically
2000s- kids and teens are using the internet
2010s- these kids and teens are now parents
2020s- the cycle repeats
I’ll never forget the first time I heard someone over 30 use the word meme. Actually startled me.
@@TheAverageMetalPoser They use it wrong. "Memes" aren't simply jokes, image macros, or exploitable formats.
They're self-perpetuating bits of cultural information.
@@a-s-greig yea thats a better definition. Theyre not just jokes, its a cultural thing.
King of Retro Uhhh there are people being born every day.
It’s not like we come in batches.
It’s more of a continuum
2008: Post something on TH-cam for fun
2020: Post something on TH-cam for money
mario9078
2008: quality > quantity
2020: quantity > quality
I guess I’m still living in 2008
@@moofreestyle3412 quality is a subjective thing
2036: Post the wrong thing and killer drones are sent after you for having the wrong opinion.
Yuji Silva lowkey people are sensitive these days bruh I remember a time where niggas wasn’t even like that
What killed the golden age of the Internet was really the smart phone. Before to interact with the digital world you had to boot up your pc, wait for your dial up to come on and then log into whatever site you wanted to access, but now the Internet is quite literally in your pocket & can be accessed within seconds. You're connected to it at all times. It doesn't feel like a retreat but rather something that consumes your whole world every fucking second of the day. I miss the early-mid 2000's.
You're completly right, it was a lot healthier because you couldn't be connected at all times
@@Kenji_Endo It definitely was. Now we have Zoomers with mental health problems getting worse because they are connected 24/7.
@@KratostheThird I mean you know it's not their fault right?
@@Kenji_Endo I work with Zoomers at my job, so yes I know this.
@@KratostheThird I'm sorry for ruining the internet and myself.
The internet used to be a cool place to escape from real life.
Now I return to real life to escape the internet...
Yes, this is true.
Needs more likes wtf people
OK BOOMER
Here's a thought. Why not focus on making your real-life a life you don't have to escape from?
@@thesolarrepublic9268 ok. Done. But now they are trying to escape the internet, so I guess they will have to make the internet a place they don't want to escape from..
we'll never see a pre-corporation internet again, I feel so sorry for everyone who missed it, it was like a nonstop party at your fingertips
Remember "welcome to the internet, i will be your guide" Meme? Yeah.. It's not relevant anymore..
😔 sadly I never got to experience it fully, hence I moved to the states in '15
and had little to no exposure to the internet prior to that
I'm a 2001 kid, when the internet was in it's hayday I was still in the kindergarten lol. I haven't come online until 2014, when CS:GO was a hot thing, but I still associate myself closer with 90's kids rather than with younger zoomers
Everything and Nothing yeah me too, i started in 2015, and from the stories told of old youtube, i d love to be there. At least I got to experience filthy frank for a short time.
My first experience of corporate internet was when club penguin was bought out by Disney. I was a devastated 7 yr old
Historians will find 2010s hillarious.
And 2020s terrifying.
@@sk3ptik0s49 don't be so negative!
@@DisturbedVette Wait and see 😬
hopefully Internet Historian
Hopefully Hentai Heaven will be up again, don't be so pessimistic.
I miss when people didn’t take the internet so seriously and it was all just for fun.
Things started going down from 2019 and now it's just a mess
This video was made in 2019. In 2020, all of this that was wrong happened ten times more. The internet got even worse in 2020.
Thanks for the heart.🙂
@@ethanhenrichs5677 Maybe likely due to the tumultuous events of that year?
@@moonflower6607
True, but I mean big tech and their ridiculous censorship. And the Twitter cancel culture
The internet got “worse” because more peoples started using it and sharing their opinions.
@@sportsgamer8524 so the social networks are to blame?
I was born in the middle of the golden age. It feels unfair that I didnt get to experience it
Don't worry, they're overselling how good it was. I think the reason most of us look back on it more fondly is precisely because we WEREN'T using it most of the time. It existed and was a powerful new tool, but that was it. Real life still existed.
Me too
As someone who was also born in the middle, I find it helps to try and use the internet in such a way that the pros are accentuated and the cons are more downplayed. There’s so much great about the internet even now, I think it’s just about making sure you’re using it like a tool like you come away feeling good like you’ve added to your life somehow. By doing this I don’t really feel the negative affects as much I go on to learn stuff see cool things then leave. It can be hard to do as those cons feel like they’re always there but it’s well worth it.
Yep, same here
@@UnchainedEruption yeah no. Not overselling. As someone who was there and of enough age, I wondered back then why the whole world wasn't using it so I could hear and discuss their thoughts and projects. It never ocurred to me that other people's thoughts were.... what we have now.
As someone else said, the only thing that is better now is that if you need to do something and don't know how, you can probably find several different step-by-step guides on it in both text and video formats.
It really is a hugely demotivating feeling to have your livelihood swiped away in an instant. Insanity.
Didn't expect you here lol
I no like our midi ):
Yes indeed
Hey SMB!
@@MeatCatCheesyBlaster yes and no. More traditional jobs usually have legal systems behind them that provide protection to both the worker and the company.
I think Club Penguin is legit a great example of what used to make the internet so special. It was a world you could go to and chat with others, play some silly games, decorate your igloo/penguin, and just escape from the real world for a bit. But Club Penguin wasn’t designed to keep you on for hours and hours at a time, more so for a quick few minutes every now and then. Even the art style of club penguin perfectly captures that of the vintage internet.
Same as habbo. I went on there not long ago to revisit and it's still a chill but sadly it's not close to what it was because all the things that made it fun and quirky are gone. The personality of the internet is long gone, the life of it will be next
Just as he said "the internet has become corporate" I had a mid-roll advert.
How ironic.
fucking. use. adblock!
USE ADBLOCK! I swear why aren't more people using ad block on youtube
Its like he can put the ads where he wants
@@DonutKop I left another comment just after saying this:
"I think you've overlooked what's made the internet what it is today - advertising. As soon as this companies realised they could sell data or ad-space it became about revenue.
If people used VPNs, ad block etc. It reduces the profitability from selling adverts.
I remember back in the 90s when I first started using the internet, adverts were seldom seen because the market was still small and in turn the big corps. we see today didn't have such a stranglehold."
@@DonutKop mobile and some of us are now trying to use capitalist on means against them by using the ads to go to good causes. I mean it's not much but it a start.
Lol he puts the ads on there
What killed the internet? Money, lawyers, and governments.
That existed during the Golden Age of the Internet.
Twitter killed it. Idiotic opinions started spreading like wildfire there. Censorship, pc culture bullshit, politics everywhere, etc.
@@BlockedUser420 everyone ruined it lol
funny because its some of the governments that are questioning what these social media corporations are doing to people's information ... I wouldn't blame all govt but yes to all corporations looking for a quick and easy profit
@@BlockedUser420 these large corporations have formed through loopholes and crony capitalism. They pair with he government and cut off all competition.
We're all just actors in the world's longest Black Mirror episode.
Pastaguy man
Yesss Black Mirror 🖤
Bruh
I believe were about to enter a Black Mirror episode worthy period of time.
@@wlan-kabel2749 Absolutely. And there are plenty who have no idea what's going on.
I'm an artist and DeviantArt provided me that customization I fell in love with spoken of here, but a few years back they made an upgrade and the entire website is so bland and boring now. I want the old years back :((
I can remember DeviantArt before jark was ousted from the top management...Angelo Sotira (spyed) was the instigator. He & his assistant run DA now & they've turned it into their own corporate cash cow.
goddamn downgrade, even hid the newest art page so people can't even see your stuff now
Even worse, the website is now flooded with AI “art”. So it’s basically dead.
Old DA was Soo much fun.
Nowadays I don't even use it anymore.
TH-cam died when people began earning money from views. The focus went from hobbies and passion projects to trying to make money.
TH-cam has always been terrible. However one way it was and continues to be good is "How to..." videos that are specifically teaching some objective skill. But anything else is a complete waste of time. Like this video!
Money corrupts everything. Websites should be less like Facebook, and more like Wikipedia.
No. There are good content that wouldnt've been made if creators werent earning a buck from it. Simply ignore the bad one. It isn't hard, in fact the algorithm helps me greatly with that. But monopoly is bad indeed.
@@ombelle5284 Which gets a bad reputation thanks to teachers
@@UnchainedEruption Then why are you here?
Glink: "TH-cam sucks now"
TH-cam: *this video is recommended for you*
Ok boomer
Indeed
Best thing about YT is that it's run by robots that we're training and YT have lost control off
I think this describes the situation best
Wow youtube algorithm want golden age
"The Internet has become corporate" - immediately get a Tik Tok ad
Nice profile pic
Sorry mate can't feel that, youtube premium
@@KangJangkrik sorry to hear that...
@@KangJangkrik sorry mate, using adblock, savefromnet, pirated movies, and reupload youtube premium videos, without paying any single cash
@@KangJangkrik paying for YT premium is supporting the corporations.............. just get uBloc Origin
I'm so sad that the golden age of internet only lasted for this short period. It came and went away before I even noticed
Yeah man 2011-2015, were the peak golden years of TH-cam and many other social media outlets. 2016-2017 were almost the last good years somewhat, then income 2018 - 2019 something shifted either for worst or for good. 2020 - present I guess it shifted for the worst. I even reminisce on those good ole days almost feels far away at times
@@MADSCIENTISTGONESANE6166 are you saying 2015 was good, or are you saying it was the end of the golden age?
I remember it as the year that you could begin to feel the stagnation and repetition of internet creativity, as well as the time the real world and corporations began to sink their hooks in and stopped treating the internet as a goofy side quest
The problem is: People rely on the Internet, for a sense of belonging.
Nowadays, it's just a reboot of High School drama.
Pretty much this especially Twitter
it's worse, i don't know what highschool you went to but i've never seen someone get cancelled in my school.
But worse
cough *art community dramas* cough
@@anonymousvossylu9342 their basically the 2000s high school everyones been talking about
And it didn't just die. It was MURDERED
*cue lofi beats
Like Epstein who didn't kill himself!
"Eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth, blood for blood, life for life!"
Lol cue typewriter sound
But that's just a theory, a GAME THEORY
The internet is becoming so degenerade and soulless everything is a competition everything is for social status there is no fun anymore
the only good thing left is that you download things
lmao shut up
@@rtx6439 why?
Carnage as your pfp😍
Not for long cloud gaming will destroy mods and ownership
I dont know about that if you search for as little as 5 minutes in any platform you can find someone thats in it for pasion is not as bad as they make it seem.
My grandparents watched the downfall of radio and television happen slowly over the course of many decades. I watched the internet's downfall over the course of my short life.
This isn't how things are supposed to be.
That is because the downfall of the Internet was artificial. It wasn't in response to shifting market trends or consumer demand, it was the result of platforms like Twitter/Insta getting big and then paying smaller sites to "integrate" them before buying them out completely and shutting them down centralizing the entire Internet around Twitter eventually. It's quite literally what happens when these companies are allowed to explode and monopolize unchecked, and monopoly laws IRL have a harder time being applied to the Internet.
The Wild West days of the Internet were sure something I'm glad I experienced.
Yes.
Doctor_Darling th-cam.com/video/mll5c9-IeRA/w-d-xo.html
When was the wild west’s of the internet
Doctor_Darling word everything that’s news now we already know. the internet dead.
True Renegade just when I was born😞
I miss how personalised the old TH-cam layout was. Remember when TH-cam meant 'Broadcast Yourself'? Now it's just a corporate echo chamber of soulless content.
It was pretty cool how the background and literally everything was customizable
The yellow subscribe button, descriptions at the side of videos, the star rating system, video responses, actually being able to thumb... Though, I do prefer the green/red like to dislike ratio they implemented after the star system better. Funny; they made the dislikes clear and removed negative thumbs, so people's feelings would be less hurt. Though thumbing down still works, it just moves other comments further down in priority.
kuntexterminator I miss old TH-cam period .... they had a sense of looking out for viewer by being the only media source without a lot of commercials, and now they have more commercials than any TV channel....................................................................................................
Damn I totally forgot how the customizable old TH-cam was.... where have we gone.
Broadcast Yourself? What's this? 2009?
I wonder how many people wished they were born earlier to see what the internet was before all of this.
Well they would've only had around 7 years to realize this in the time-frame that I say was when the golden age of the internet was happening which for me (I was born in 2005 so I could only go by "evidence" that I see from other people and events in the tech industry) I say it was from around 2000 to 2007. 2008 to 2013 I say was the silver age of the internet and when social media was becoming bigger than it can ever be, and I say from 2014 onwards is currently the dark age of the internet or the whole stealing data from people thing.
I often wish I was born earlier to live in a world WITHOUT the internet. There's plenty of good it does us, and there are things I love from the 2000s, even early 2010s, but it sucks that I missed the 80s and 90s. Even the 70s oil crisis/inflation was not as bad as the Great Recession, let alone a pandemic.
I did
I was born in 1996 so got a *little* bit of the golden age. By the time I was old enough to really appreciate it, it was already getting past the golden age. I was never on Myspace or anything, but I remember the extremely fun, exciting early days of TH-cam where we'd just type random shit into the search bar and be laughing our heads off
im one of them, i kinda wish i was born in like, 2004-2006 and not in 2009
I miss the early 2000's where TH-cam had just hilarious, minute-long videos filmed by crappy home cameras. They were absolute gold.
TH-cam didn't exist in the early 2000s.
You mean the mid-late years?
Second half of 2000s and early 2010s
@@tacosatlarge Yea the second half which was 2006-2010
Yeah, like early Smosh. So many popular white TH-camrs start out as hyper, suburban emo-kids doing weird, random things on camera... And then they usually grow a beard, 'rebrand' themselves for a wider audience and remove their early content.
There cannot be a renaissance without a dark age.
Blunderful Red true but the real question is when is renaissance coming
@@davadreviewer5509 I hope soon
God, please.
hope we don’t hit a dystopian age before that
DaVadReviewer 30 years from now give or take. It’ll get way worse before that I assure.
I miss when the internet was a place to escape the real world. Now I can’t go anywhere without seeing politics or things from the real world.
Same. Both the right and the left are guilty of this
I can't enjoy youtube comments without a "feminism is cancer" or " all men are trash".... Ugh
To be fair, you can hop on discord and escape into games for a bit with your friends if you really want to.
Bullshit. Even back in 2000's were people putting politics into internet, you seen have many god damn flash games where it make fun of W. Bush or kill Osama bin Laden?
Go to Reddit and avoid all political subreddit
The money changed everything. It turned making memes/internet culture from a passion to a profession, and thats what killed it.
Politics killed it. They allowed monopoly in exchange of information and control.
Gravetwist Remember when media didn’t give a fuck about memes. Now saying ok boomer is a problem
Gravetwist I saw a job listing for social media content creator that had ‘brand-friendly meme creation’ as a key responsibility of the position. 🤦🏻♀️
@@kbs1212 Like this:
>When somebody mentions the new #mega_lit Iphone 11S+Max Ultra™©®
*(willy wonka staring in the background)*
_... And they say corporations are not up with the times heh..._
Gravetwist ive been thinking about money a lot. I think money is legitimately responsible for the corruption of society.
Dude the ceo of youtube is LITERALLY called susan and doesnt visit the site and has 0 clue about the internet. Its literally like someones mom took over youtube
@GΛV Her sister is married to the co-founders of Google
@@sugaryheaven4089 wait, really?
THAT ACTUALLY EXPLAINS A LOT ABOUT HOW SHE DIDN'T GET FIRED YET HAJKSHJKASHJKHDFISIH
Susan died
"Let's face it, the Internet has become corporate"
That sentence barely finished and I was hit with an ad, HAHAHAHAHAHAH, oh the irony
That is funny!
Hilarious!!!!
He decides where the ads go in his video. That was intentional.
Lmfaoo rip to the internet. Go outside to nature👽👽
I'm 45. I joined online gaming and other internet stuff in 1997 when I was 22. It was the glory age. The internet now is laughable compared.
Damn an OG, respect bro
@@bjack8315 Thanks. Right back atcha.
Nice
I got my first email in 1998 when I was 19.... I went online at my school library and looked up all the weirdest things I could think of. Everything was great from then until Facebook got popular and suddenly every grandma and kid got online. Before then even the dodgy stuff and bullying wasn't even as evil as now. The internet is now so full of degeneracy Australia has basically been forced to censor it because it's literally full of kiddy fiddlers and rapey bastards now. I miss when we were all nerds with dark humour playing together. I loved that era. I'm sad it's gone.
@@mistressofstones did you go on aol at the time?
As soon as he said “the internet has become corporate” I got an ad lol
ROFL
adblockers my guy
He can choose when in the video he would like ads to be played to people so this was probably strategic, but still cool nonetheless!
Me too!
I got two in a row.
I got a taste of the golden age when I was so young, but I will never forget it. ytps and shitposts were the best things ever, not anymore though. recently I've been growing away from the internet and going back a lot more to the real world
😭
I actually fear that 10 years from now I could look back to today and miss the current state of affairs if we follow the current trajectory.
There is always a breaking point to these things, so if we continue down this path there are definitely going to be new platforms emerging
Remember that meme bout the grandpa telling his grandson "a story", thats us inna a decade telling our "designer baby gender neutral helicopters" bout the politically incorrect good old days.
Welp, so long as everyone remains asleep, your fear will unfortunately come true.. Amazon is breaking into law enforcement and "defense"... 1984 is literally playing out right in front of us and no one cares. 😑
@@infiddle_8810 this is exactly why gun control is a terrible idea
@@bleh8789 someone who gets it 😏✌️
I'm personally waiting for the internet 2
There's actually people working on decentralized networks to replace the internet. So hopefully not too much more waiting.
@@0dayrepairs woo Piedpiper
Old School internet
This is internet 2 or what come of it lol
@@0dayrepairs There are already a few. Problem is people don't know about them or don't care enough to use them. Like Freenet.
Time is flying when even the internet has a "good old days."
a c c e l e r a t i o n
@Weston Meyer true
@Weston Meyer ok boomer
It`s scary how fast it evolved. I remember it like yesterday, finally getting that sweet dial up connection, downloading a song from Kazaa took an hour. People were generally friendly because it was all new to us. First Cs 1.0 matches... that was 20 years ago. 20 years are fucking nothing. But i still think that smartphones are way worse, surveillance wise. If i see how much fucking permissions certain apps want, why the fuck does my phone need location services... etc. Call me paranoid but i still do most of my important calls over landline, own a second pc that isnt connected to the internet and i use linux.
Weston Meyer Sure, boomer.
Back in the day on forums, everyone seemed to have a paranoia about being tracked and hacked, so you NEVER used your real name, NEVER used a real picture of yourself! And that anonymity brought an honesty that's missing today.
@thanos asparagus monkey condom gaming Everyone wants to "matter" and "leave a legacy", so online profiling is the easiest and fastest way to do that, as far as they think.
And now you know damn well someone's watching you 24/7
That early internet paranoia has stuck with me all this time. I still find myself using fake names, phone numbers, addresses, dobs, etc, though perhaps now this mentality is needed more than ever.
@@bambsy9665 Same fam. Kinda blows me away how kids that grew up just a few years younger than me just took to the internet and electronic media with such blind trust.
I never liked the 'internet front persona' since the 00's, I found it disingenuous lol
Always used my name, but never ventured beyond early fb & got away from that shortly after. Never understood why they called it "social media" when it's still just someone looking at a screen watching or listening to somebody else, doesn't quantify as "social" in my book. 🤷
*Remember when the every website had its own unique look and personality?*
I miss TH-cam's customizing of channels! 😭 That's the only thing I wish they brought back!
Everything is trying to become tiktok these days lmao
at least on newground you can stil modifie the color and layout of your page
@@atti3102 fnf fucked the site up
@@Gamerappa why? Fnf isn't that bad and the fan base is not a big problem
There’s people in these comments right now who are too young to remember when you could customize your channel background on TH-cam
You can't do that?
Quickstrike209 not the banner it was like MySpace where when you clicked on that persons channel they personalized the entire screen
I remember.
I spent a day creating a background for my account, and then they announced the removal of the feature 1 month after
You still can on some platforms uwu
My take is, privacy is precious. I think privacy is the last true luxury. To be able to live your life as you choose without having everyone comment on it or know about.
Even more so than my privacy, I value my peace of mind not knowing what the hell everyone in the world is doing all the time. That's the biggest tragedy out of social media, in my opinion. I think we're burned out and feel like we have less time for life because information overload.. people will need to begin to choose to either live real life or internet life.. there's beginning to be less of an option to do both
You are totally correct. I have been using the internet anonymously since the beginning, there's nothing better than being invisible. People fuck up revealing everything about themselves in a vain attempt to be admired, liked.
The end of introverts
What about time
Internet is a place to get ourself get off reality, but when internet is reality, everything boring
It's just like watching bad reality TV shows.
We are in a Cyberpunk dystopia without the cool aesthetic.
That's exactly what I've been thinking
A very boring dystopia
Its like Mad Max. An endless ocean of sand.
Yeah not enough newspapers you know..on paper and noodles...
The Cyberpunk aesthetic is coming and actually has a practical application, Google 'CV Dazzle', I would just post the link but then this comment will probably get nuked.
I miss the times when the internet was more goofy (ytps and lol internet stuff) instead of the sterile corporate internet we have today
You do realize that YTPs are still a thing. Right?
@@SuperMario9078 yet they have died out. the good ones are still around to watch, just, now people who made them quit ages ago.
@@bobbies81 the people who quit were replaced by new ones
"Cause is what we wanted, we Seekd this, we wanted order, not peace and democracy, But they didn't do it in the right way, and look at the world now, is our own fault
bobbies81 I’m a YTPer that started making YTPs a year ago and my YTPs are pretty decent in my opinion
It’s unfortunate but dear god, how far this site has fallen...
Ork Trukk Drivah Yeah, true. Maybe one day, a good enough replacement will come, but nothing is as versatile and feature rich as TH-cam, as sad as that sounds. One day, there may come something that can truly replace this platform. One can only dream...
TH-cam has been on a downward spiral
Ah corporatism, ruins pretty much any industry it touches
@@mariosion please don't say that, Im still trying to build my channel on here, not hope for a replacement!
@@mariosion its like all The good things are like bottle of clean water. It only needs one drop of (strong enough) poison to contamine it forever.
Normies and big tech ruined everything. It's so bad that I tried to comment a brief history of blockbuster and Netflix and TH-cam wouldn't allow it.
"They took down Hentai Heaven"
I felt that
Dud I cant even find rule 34 anymore everything's fucked :(
Wait rule 34s down
Lmao same
Yeah i know, that hit hard
@@subashira hanime dot tv for hentai, Sankaku Black for images and NHBooks for doujinshi my dude
We can't save TH-cam. We just need to make a new one.
Yes let's pretend that making a "new TH-cam" won't lead to the same problems. If we somehow all leave TH-cam to some new platform, then all the advertisers and people who started this mess will go there as well.
@@therealjezzyc6209 Well it took many years for TH-cam to become what it is now. It would most likely take a while for that to happen.
Floatplane!
@@caelanferguson9452 All the infrastructure is already available. The reason it took so long was because all the huge tech companies weren't as big back then as they are now. It would take maybe 6 months at most. If everybody leaves YT to some other platform won't be long till Google just gobbles it for lunch.
@@therealjezzyc6209 yeah i guess you have a point. I don't know how we will ever save TH-cam
You kids have no idea how fun the internet was. As my computer science teacher put it " it's a gateway to the entire world, you can do anything, see anything". No politics, no fake news, no outrage, just randomness and weirdness.
Going online was like going on an adventure. The sound of your phone getting connected online felt like you were gearing up. You don't know what websites you're gonna visit, who you're gonna talk to, what new flash games you're gonna discover. It was definitely magical. And even though internet speeds were very slow at the time, it felt like the wait for new page to load was worth it.
Maybe I am being nostalgic here, but I can't deny.. i had a great time with the internet in the 00s.
You perfectly described what it was 10+ years ago
Fuck yeah it was. Shit today is on its way to 1984 orwellian dystopia brave new world having bullshit
I discovered the internet in 2012. I lived and was born in the rise of the dark ages. Can you tell me stories of the golden age I missed?
@@PsiensGate Coming back from school and then going online, visiting Newgrounds, limewire, msn messenger, played X-Men vs street fighter on arcadepod, lots and lots of sites with flash games that are politically incorrect by today's standards, buying internet cards, chatrooms filled with weird and funny people, people asking you "asl ?", meeting new friends on those chatrooms and exchanging msn IDs, exchange photos, then your school friend nudges you on msn which was an extremely cool feature, gossip about school and other stuff while just surfing randomly and then switch off the computer. And the next day at school, we talk about the random stuff we did on the net. Then your friend recommends you this crazy site and you're like "oh man, i cant wait to go back home and go online".
@@Mr.Coffee576 Why was I not born in this era
I loved how the Internet was in the 2000s. It was not glued to my life and it was not a place to keep 24/7 checking on other people's lives and posting pictures of your most recent trip that nobody cares.
It was a magical place where ANYTHING could happen. You'd go after school/work to disconnect about life and just chill and have fun, like an alternate world where freedom of speech reigned. I used to be very anxious to get home and boot up my computer where I could browse the Internet and finally be able to talk and to check the stuff that I really liked and just be myself, whereas I couldn't with most of my real friends.
I was a Sonic fan at that time and the community was strong. We had animations, fanfics, forums, millions of fan websites (geocities), board discussions, arts, cool videos, contests, reviews, tips, radios, etc. You had endless content of your favorite stuff, and made on the sole purpose of being fun and good content, not on making money (at least most of the times). Nowadays you are just restricted to Reddit and its horrible mods or some forum that is just a ghost town.
Online gaming was at its peak also. Staying up until late playing CS 1.6, Quake 3, Unreal, WoW was the shit. No censoring, no SJWs, no simping, no cash grabs, just the boys having fun. It was also very common to make friends with someone within some game and later the friendship would go on to outside the game via MSN. No one does that anymore. Everyone just lost their authenticity.
I was an autistic kid growing up and I was a computer geek. Back in the 1990s and early 2000s, internet usage was largely restricted to computer geeks and nerds who shared a passion. I was one of those kids who was a geek, and I was one of those who jumped on Counterstrike when it was popular.
If you ask me, when Mark Zuckerberg decided to expand Facebook sometime in 2006 - 2009 to where everybody was convinced to join, that was the beginning of the end of the old internet.
This decision, along with the first iPhone that Steve Jobs proudly displayed back in 2007, ushered in an era where people became more self centered and arrogant, all the while being unaware of their surroundings.
I was a Sonic the Hedgehog fan too, and we had communities with a diverse group of people. We dug deep into fandom, discussing the latest video games, the comic books, whatever tickled our fancy. We had actual conversations that provoked critical thinking.
The difference between back then and now, among many other things was we were able to use critical thinking much more effectively. Reddit sadly is basically a hivemind. It's essentially the opposite of critical thinking, you're supposed to cater to one's whims and follow them. Otherwise, you will get 'canceled' by the moderators.
Online gaming was more fun back then too. World of Warcraft in recent times is just sad. One of the worst online communities that I've encountered. Full of people trying to cancel others. Full of SJWs to point out that your view of things is wrong. American politics is discussed almost as much as the game itself. It happened a lot when I was doing PVP matches and even when I was just clearing out some dungeons.
The old community of WoW wasn't like that. We all hanged out and some of us made a relationship outside the game. Try doing that today with any MMO or popular online game.
Meanwhile, everyone is bitching about Aaron Rodgers while others are complaining about Lebron James being a bitch on Twitter. Who the fuck cares? Why should we concern ourselves with soulless celebrities?
It's a fucked up world now.
@Im Caj Yes. When Facebook and smartphones became extremely popular and everybody started using the internet massively, even those who didn't see much appeal in it before, I was one who was like "wait? why is everyone posting all the time about meaningless stuff of their lives, tweeting about celebrities, why do the posts disappear so quickly? Why do people are seeking attention so much? What is even the point? Where are the fun and engaging discussions? The sense of community?".
From then on, that was gone and the internet became shallow, streamlined, robotic, and censored. Reddit was supposed to be the "follow-up" of the old internet, but as it grew in popularity, they just transformed it into a corporatized, political, and censored mess as everything that becomes popular.
@@dottigames Reddit was good back in the mid - late 2000s. Then it became like a lot of other big websites.
Corporate. Political. Censored.
It's no different from watching Rachel Maddow on MSNBC or some talking head on CNN and Fox News.
Right on! Back then it was more common for the kids around the neighborhood to gather, especially in the weekends and in the big summer break, holy shit what a blast, the room would be filled with monitors and computers, anyone remember those small compact TVs with the integrated VCR? You would have someone gaming on that along with their PS2 or Xbox, before the whole PC versus console war really took off, it was just one cohort of humans having fun staying up until early morning playing games and watching movies, it was a different universe.
I feel this so hard. I miss these times.
old websites felt really comfy. they felt secure, welcoming. it's a feeling i won't find nowadays, because everything here is trying to steal your personal info. it's a feeling i won't find nowadays because everyone is in a rush to control and silence those that dare oppose them.
I had thst feeling when I checked out the website called welcome to the old internet again
Duck duck go thanks
Buckle up, cus it’s only gonna get worse. Digital ID, universal digital currency, it’s going to control every facet of our life, and it won’t be optional, you won’t be able to opt out. We’re already seeing the beginnings of it, and so many people are ignorantly cheering it on
@@garyclarkiii730 what if we ignore it?
@@garyclarkiii730 If you're implying a cashless society, I don't really see that happening. And I may be uninformed, but this reeks of conspiracy theories a la 666 patent Bill Gates brain chip bogus. Would you mind elaborating?
After big government found out that social media can over throw governments...that was the end of the internet.
Yeah they really tightened the screws once Trump took them by surprise. They were successful at controlling the narrative for years and couldn't conceive a bunch of trolls, memes, listening to podcast and speeches that normally only a few hundred people would view now explode to millions, dethroning them. I find it hilarious how dying mainstream media fact checks parody memes as if trying to desperately cling on that we are fucking stupid and we need them to be our saviors to separate fact from fiction.
The internet was created in 1968 for research purposes. The internet was initially used to relay data between Universities and...the government. It wasn't until the latter half of the 1990s, when personal computers became affordable and "" made the web easy to use, that the internet became viable to us common folk. To think the government and these companies wouldn't cut deals is very naive.
@Rapid nerd
I wonder... Do you realise how accurate you are?
4chan needs to overthrow the government, it's time they focus their weaponized autism at the bigger threat
The images of old TH-cam gave me such nostalgia
The old TH-cam ruled... no ads
Remember back in 2008-2009 when youtube was not connected to google and you could customize your profile page with wallpapers, gifs anf pics?
Yeah good times
I may or may not catch a glimpse of all that because I was very young. Damn that really sounds like a great place to be.
@@zicdragon believe me, it was. No speech and content policing, no trigger warings, it was raw and fun as this yt today will never be again
Google Plus destroyed that customization.
didn't google buy youtube in '06?
@@moonflower6607 perhaps but it didn't connect with google up until 2010-2011 I think
"Let's face it, the internet has become corpo-- " *forced ad* "... corporate."
I agree.
OK BOOMER
Laughs in youtube premium
And here I am laughing at your ass for paying the corporations to leave you alone! Adblock bitchhhhh
@@CryptoNWO laughs in ad blocker ;)
@@matwalker8698 cries in mobile ¡_¡
the early 2000's was truly a golden age...
Now everything is being oppressed or policed, escapism and free thought is frowned upon.
yup. this is what happens when your standards are based on the majority instead of a rigid line. Like the bible or the constiution. Once the bible was truly abandoned in '65, arguably it has been abandoned since about 400 AD, because the catholics dont follow squat of what it teaches, and the "protestants" are no better. The only one that is even close is the Seventh Day Adventists.
I preferred the late 90s, but early 2000s was pretty cool due to better connections.
@@jklbubbublkj7939 religion is for the dumb and easily manipulated
But seriously... did You not see this coming?
* *insert Tolkien, Orwell, and Huxley quotes* *
Sometimes i feel like it's the downfall of humanity as well, greed, corrupted, sucked into negativity, consumed by media, sad everything is going downhill
When did you think this all of this started in? It's all just subjective opinions after all and humanity could've been always like this since the beginning. It's only now that you just woken up to realize all the issues that we're currently facing right now. So when do you think this all might've happened? Was it since the 19th century, the 20th, the 21st, maybe even the 16th century or the century when the modern era might've started in which could've been around which was the 15th century? When did you start noticing a downward incline in that area? Maybe you could even say that this is the best time in history right now with all the living great and long lives and stuff. I mean at the end of the day it's all just subjective after all right?
Tbh this sounds like a universal dark age for humanity.
@@siddycosmos607, Um this is actually the best time in history we're living in right now if you talking about how much humanity is relative with itself. The only reason why we know of all this negativity around us is because of how social media is the one that spreads all of it the most. So it's most of social media's fault they keeps spreading negativity everywhere and for even poisoning some forms of entertainment. But even still I hope this changes to in the future to the point where we don't even need social media anymore and that we can keep some forms of negativity to ourselves.
@@seanvasquez523 honestly, I have to correct myself. Humanity IS in the best possible era (not the best possible year for obvious reasons) but for the internet, it's a chaotic, universal dark age. Everything got capitalised and cultified.
@@siddycosmos607, I mean you have a great point on that. The internet nowadays is a mess and we would rather look at the real world instead of looking at pointless arguments and negativity on a random website we just found. But I think most of this was because of the rise of social media which was the reason why the internet has even became capitalistic for a while now.
But since people are starting to not give a crap about their social media accounts anymore and starting to delete them and that these sites are becoming so toxic that they're in decline right now and people are abandoning them, the big three toxic social media sites in my opinion that being Twitter, Facebook, And TikTok will hopefully be gone in the next 10 to 15 years. Once they are gone the internet will hopefully be in a renaissance where sites like TH-cam are going to be in their glory days once again and that the internet will be like what it was during the golden age (2000-2007) and even a bit of the silver age (2008-2013) which is one of the eras that I define the history of the internet.
It is disgusting what has happened over the years to the internet. I started my internet journey back in the early 90s. It was the 'wild, wild west'. We could say what we wanted, do what we wanted, and no one had public melt downs, no calls for fans or followers to attack, no storm of Karens doxxing people for not going along with some witch trial group think, no one was censored, canceled, shut down, etc. Everyone just handled it. And BECAUSE of that, the large majority of people were a hell of a lot friendlier and far, FAR more creative than today. We could even make videos without copyright strikes.
TH-cam came along in 2005 - long after the start of the internet, but even back then, TH-cam was FUN! It was all about us, not corporations and celebrities, news, movie trailers, etc. It was the every day person - that was the whole damn point of TH-cam. Now, the internet feels like you're being treated like a child....and everyone around you is also a child - an EXTREMELY sensitive child, who runs to the teacher to cry about their feelings. It's very sad, because the more you monitor, the more you restrict, the more you shut conversation down, the worse people get, not better.
some people had to be canceled though.
Dude this is spot on! The part you said about Karens doxxing for not going along with some witch trial group think made my head spin! And the part you said about the internet being full of extremely sensitive children who run to the teacher
to taddle for every little thing.
Give it another 10 years and we'll have a renaissance period
th-cam.com/video/R1ccwyP6fjc/w-d-xo.html
that is exactly what i think of
I can’t afford to wait that long I’ll be boomers age by that time
@@ogi1337 you will reborn in the 50's??
"Hey, lets give up all of our control so people can do what they want again." Sounds realistic.
The Internet was like the jungle, freedom... now is like the city
This is really explain what I thought 😞 The internet is crowed and full of mortal basic earthlings. I want my magic jungle back.
Y'all ever heard of a concrete jungle?
Have you been to 4chan?
We will tell our kids and grandkids what the internet was like back in 2005-2010
More like the wild west
"The internet has become corporate- *ad*"
Great video, you've found yourself a new sub
If you mean ad as russian for Hell, then it gets funnier and worse at the same time
There us plenty of internet left out there. Places like mastodon and what not. The internet isn't just youtube face bag and google. You just won't have the size and quick out reach those sites have.
This happened
IT lasted less than a decade. What killed it was the smart phone.
I once saw a thread on 4chan that said memes are never to be bought and sold, for they are free for all. The moment memes become a product is the day the internet dies
This was in 05
Aren’t memes a product now as crypto coins like doge
Slow clap
nft's suck
@@umapreciadordemacacos1001 yea they curse you and stuff, and they act so privileged too
"For a decade the Nerds and geeks were the guardians of peace and justice in the internet. Before the dark times... Before the Companies...."
Nerds get seduced by the darkside
and then the company nation attacked
I miss the internet pre-2005.
@@filosofiamarcial8581 wow
@@VincentsVideoVisions 90s and early-mid 2000s best
Remember when the word "cringe" wasn't as used and people were not afraid of being creative? Yeah, me too.
Normal Person well cringe culture is kind of dead
@@tydyman2003 tf does that even mean
@@klitzy Peoplr don't say that seriously anymore, if you see the word it's probably ironic. Also, what? People weren't as afraid to bash others back then, I would argue.
@@klitzy most people don't care if stuff is cringey
Cringe
one of the things that make me sad is the lack of personalization. i remember when we're able to change lot's of things on Twitter, now we can't barely change the colors of the links and when we click to change it, we can only pick the 5 colors they choose for us and this color is used in all pages, even other ppls pages. i loved to check my friends pages and see what colors and wallpapers they choose. now everything is the same. that's why i love neocities, they keep the best of internet alive
The golden age ended when Megaupload was taken down in my opinion.
It triggered this wave of corporations censoring everything to death.
Wasn't Megaupload just a filehost website? And when was it taken down? I feel like I heard of it, just recently...??
You still have access to everything but it requires a bit of work. This took sharing online from open and easy back to specialized and weird.
Access to some things exploded, like books.
@@philippeamon7271 it was in 2012 I think.
Oh my god, Megaupload! Nostalgia!!! You are so right, something broke...
@@ares5801 AAAAHHHHHHHHHH IT HURTS THE PAIN THE PAIN!!
Unlike most nostalgia for things, the internet is a living organism that has objectively mutated into a big commercialized piece of shit.
The cancer of normies infected it and metastasized into the hell we see today.
@Bender Bending Rodriguez yeah, the issue is UNREGULATED capitalism. As in, we live in the weakest regulatory state since immediately before the railroad and oil monopolies in the early 20th century were broken apart by TR. Antitrust, fair competition, and privacy laws are important and corporate lobbying has ensured that those laws are rolled back and never passed again. That’s why the internet is so garbage. Thanks Reagan for starting all this.
@Bender Bending Rodriguez Lmao dude, there's something wrong with your style of argument when you immediately fling yourself into extreme examples as soon as someone suggests some moderation to unrestricted capitalism.
Good'ol Teddy Roosevelt, the second most american man to have ever lived behind George Washington himself, was Big Daddy Trust Buster and would have relished the opportunity to break Google, Facebook, and Amazon down into their component atoms to ALLOW the freedoms of the early days of the internet again. I have no doubt that he would have recognized the importance of such a utility to the common man in enabling the spread of thoughts and ideas without censorship, as it used to be.
What you don't seem to understand is in the current state of things, corporations are LARGER than governments. Walmart has a larger revenue stream than most countries in the world combined, google is able to control access to any information they please, and whether you like it or not, every word you type on every video you visit is monitored while relevant data is sold to interested parties. Amazon is practically a lifeline at this point with how quickly they gobble up companies and encourage buying online. Keep crying about "big government". The insipid greed of corporations large enough to literally buy any competing corporation they want cannot be understated - they are beholden to money, and money alone. In 15 years you won't be a citizen of whatever country you currently live in - you'll be an Amazon Prime Citizen. Even more of a commodity than you currently are.
I'm not sure why I responded, really. Just hoping that someone who thinks like you do could perhaps be swayed into... Well... Not being a screaming idiot whose first comparison when anyone suggests any power larger than certifying that shit smells bad be given to the government is Nazism. I'm in full support of capitalism... When it's regulated. It works based on greed, and while that is one of the strongest motivations humanity has, it is also its most harmful. Governing bodies are rarely perfect, but in theory, they are literally the only form of law and order that is NOT based solely on the desire to manipulate people into giving them money. In reality this doesn't often work out but life isn't a game and nothing is black and white. Everything is shades of grey... And it's clear to see that in terms of shades of grey, for-profit companies are far, FAR more insidious than government. I mean, look at the shit Nestle has been doing for the past 50 years, man. They literally pulled 25 times more water than they were allowed to OUT OF CALIFORNIA in what they called an "authorized diversion" to bottle and sell. This was in 2017... But that shouldn't matter, because California has been in an almost constant draught status for years.
Anyway, yeah, keep comparing any attempt to cut down on corporate power to Fascism. That is truly a well-adjusted and intelligent opinion. :)
@Bender Bending Rodriguez He (reagan) was an extremely strong proponent of complete free-market economics... So yeah, he was bad. A completely unregulated free market is a bad thing because it breeds monopolies. Monopolies are bad. They exist when the market is unregulated. Does this make sense to you?
Also, I really wouldn't want to try anarcho-capitalism. Your life, and you living in general after a grievous injury, already depends enough on whether you have the income to recover from that injury without making living pointless due to the amount of debt you'd incur and subsequently be completely unable to ever pay off. An accident quickly turns into a lifetime of payments. Anarcho capitalism isn't a thing yet but the inherent greed of a for-profit corporation is no strawman, and it's impossible not to see where a drive for profit above all else leads - it's simply common sense.
Unfortunately there's no good catch-all solution for these problems or else we'd have found it already.
Another significant difference between government and corporations is their reach. As is seen across the globe, a single company can plant seeds in every country and grow so interconnected that they touch a part of every single living person's life, regardless of where they live. That will only become more common. At the moment, everything we interact with in our daily lives originated from, or is owned by, 4 or 5 parent companies. This number will continue to shrink until there will be 3, 2, or maybe even 1. The power this concentrates in such a small population is far more frightening than a country's government - because it impacts literally everyone. Amazon and Walmart are now both global phenomenon... However, the U.S. government presides over a very small portion of the world's populace directly. Sure, their rulings indirectly affect many more, but it's not as though they own most of the world's freshwater supplies, or own most of the world's space launch facilities and equipment, or own most of the world's food production, or own most of the world's small appliance production and distribution, or own most of the world's... Anything else. These things end up as private property and as such, can be denied to those who cannot pay. And that is what will be done, once the power is concentrated enough to do so without fear of a significant enough reprisal to actually hurt.
By 1890 Standard Oil owned 88% of the U.S.'s oil supply. This made them a significant monopoly, and their wealth allowed them to both undercut their competition and buy out competitive companies, solidifying their holdings. With a stranglehold on even a single market, the ability to increase prices without competition to undercut you cannot be understated, and without being demolished, it's hard to say where things would have gone. However - Standard was split into 33 or so different companies. While some of them probably continued to cooperate, competition was resumed through diversity in the market and prices were able to remain relatively reasonable for the average person and smaller companies who used oil in any way. This is analogous to the extreme collection of market diversity within single companies today in many respects. Nestle owns over 2000 brands in 186 countries. Amazon has purchased at least 108 brands that we know of, but their stranglehold is just as strong due to the impact their online store has on pricing and availability for smaller companies. Disney is another big one in the entertainment industry, owning many popular streaming networks along with many of the world's most popular IP's, with Star Wars being an example. AT&T owns 98 companies.
These umbrella corporations are an insidious feature of unregulated capitalism, wounds that fester and rot under the surface until exposed... And hopefully cleaned. However, it's taking a long enough time that they will be increasingly difficult to root out. Trusts and monopolies are bad, we have found this out before. If arguing FOR trusts and monopolies seems like a good idea, perhaps you should open a history book.
Last I checked, Teddy Roosevelt didn't massacre 11 million people in the Holocaust (that was Hitler), didn't transfer any private companies into state ownership (that's Xi Jinping), and didn't turn America into an anarcho-capitalist state by defeating the evil that is a monopolistic company. In fact, last I checked, what he did worked pretty well, and kept the market healthy. He inherited a country bloated by immigration, unable to house all these new people in humane conditions - he inherited a country dominated by corporate money (sound familiar?), and while being a staunch capitalist and anti-socialist, he exercised his power intelligently to destroy both Rockefeller's Standard Oil monopoly and J.P. Morgan's railroad monopoly. I'm not sure what you think is achieved by trying to return to this frame of mind, but understand that trust busting is a GOOD thing. We need it now more than ever.
@Bender Bending Rodriguez The fact that you think I'm advocating for unchecked government is also insane, I might add. What I'm suggesting has been done before and with good success, so it's not as though this method is something brand new and untested. Corporatism IS brand new and untested, and right now, all they're doing is solidifying their grip on the global market... I'm not looking forward to seeing what happens once they are in a comfortable enough (read: dominant enough, even dominating governments globally) position to begin exercising their power. With the extreme reach afforded by today's heavily interconnected global economy, they'd have a deeper and longer lasting effect than anything we've seen thus far. Without checks on their power, these won't be companies anymore - they'll be supergovernments. More powerful than NATO, more powerful than any global government you name... And not because they can blow a country off the face of the earth with a nuclear bomb... Because they could deprive a country of food, water, basic necessities, anything. Name it. The only reason human rights are a thing that exists is because they exist outside of a profit margin, something universal that is respected by governments. There are bad governments, yes, but pick ANYTHING and there will be bad examples. The solution is not to delete any semblance of government and let companies take charge.
It was the Wild West until corporations took over.
Oh yeah! I remember when I was younger just typing random url's into my browser and seeing if they were websites for fun. Back when Search engines and even google weren't very advanced, a different time lol.
Same with video games. It became too corporate after the PS2 era.
Now I understand how Dutch feels about the changes
The internet exists BECAUSE of corporations so what the hell are you talking about? Every major website and app is owned and operated by corporations. All internet service providers are also corporations. How the fuck can these services be delivered if not by incorporated groups of people using capital investments to do so?
Funny isn't it? Just like how real life wild west disappeared as industrialisation and urbanisation took over
I really hate modern internet and social media.
Things were so much simpler back then.
“i wish there was a way to know you’re in the good old days before you’ve actually left them”
Andyyy 😭
Runescape before GE or EOC lol
I always hated social media
Started using it after corona and became miserable
But thank god i got cured again
The story of 2020 is falling back into our old vices and realizing nothing good lasts forever.
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I'm not against social media in theory, but in practice many of them took a degenerate turn because of lack of privacy, ultracapitalism without control, politicization and oversocialization.
I’ve realized that too much internet is bad I used to ask my mom for a whole day on the computer but I realize that want and need will never be fulfilled either I’ll be bored on my computer or I’ll be constantly trying to get on it
Remember when filling in a social media profile was fun?
Now Facebook is ruined by sponsored ads... ugh
Yeah i spend hours and sometimes redone it after 10-20 minutes, now i just put random words when registering game or filling profile
It still is. Just skip some of the more invading boxes.
It was never fun to me...
I miss people sexually identifying as an Attack Hellicopter!
This phenomenon really effected meme culture as well. There are multiple “memes” nowadays that started as publicity for movies, and are honestly very unfunny. Besides, they only last for 2 days. I feel like I’m holding onto something that doesn’t exist anymore,
but there are still some enjoyable environments on the internet, specially on youtube.
Most memes nowadays aren't posted to get people to laugh, they're posted to get more people pissed off. The old meme culture had class, tact, and a sense of humor. The SJWs, "woke" people and assholes just took the memes and plastered them just so they could gain attention.
True af...🗿🗿
@@KratostheThird one example: cringe compilations
@@KratostheThird The big bad SJW's and woke people didn't steal your memes 😂 I'm really thinking you never experienced "the old meme culture" if you think it had any sort of class or tact. Sense of humor certainly but class & tact definitely not
Swolo ren was when I gave up on memes
"they took down HentaiHaven"
I felt that
good
great
awesome
@@JohnFortniteKennedy_ coom
If you don't know yet it's back
This video is ahead of its time. In 10-20 years, the internet won't even be recognizable anymore
I think in that amount of time a new invention may be created that new corporations will flock to, meaning the internet’s anonymity may be restored. I’d be hopeful.
We are going to have far bigger problems than this
@@nuclearpugg What can be worse than social media?
@@zedmelor8842 new world order
@@georgesracingcar7701 bruh what could replace the internet? It's literally necessary for the world to function
Younger zucc looks way more human. guess his soul left his body over time
He sold his soul
he doesn't look too good in his recent pictures
zucc is just matrix agent, facebook is lifelog, deepstate pentagon project , get a reality check
He slowly hat his Parts replaced with cybernetics
I was a freshman in high school in 2008.
2000-2010 WAS the golden era, no doubt in my mind.
absolutely. After 2010 the shift started and brought us into the dark ages. We still had a free internet where anything could be said or posted but people still went out to socialize at the mall or skate parks or just ride bikes. MTV and MSN where the shit and iPods came so you could torrent music from bearshare and lime wire.
Everything was still good up until the G+ takeover in 2013, imo. Many websites went in a similar direction as TH-cam that year and tried to be like Facebook.
The golden age was before 1997, when AOL turned all the normies and lusers loose on the Internet.
We never should have stopped using pseudonyms. The Internet was not a mistake- social media was.
PS: DAE miss signatures and avatars?
Avatar! Now that was a good movie.
I miss having banners and signatures. Right on
Anyone else tearing up over that clip of the old TH-cam? Just me? *emotional nostalgia*
I really miss OG TH-cam (customizing channel layout, video responses, 5 star rating, TH-cam groups!)
I was 7 years old when I started watching TH-cam on my own in 2009. I made my first channel (this one) in 2011... My childhood is rolling in its grave...
@@ADJL1331 man I started at 2012 probs that's when I was at 5 it was amazing
I was too young to remember it well, I just watched Cinemasaccre Godzillathon videos a ton back then
Old SMOSH...
In the Myspace days people didn't know it but when they were creating their pages they were doing a small amount of coding.
So fuckin true. I was a teenager learning how to tweak html just so I could customize my hot ass div layout
myspace.windows93.net
xanga def taught me html, my layouts were poppin
Haha, very true lol.
Hey, do y'all remember Zwinky? I never had a MySpace, but had a Zwinky, which was similar in terms of customization and coding. You even had a choice of which friends you wanted to be on your page like on MySpace lol
Internet truly died for me when it stopped being about creativity, fun, and escapism. Now it’s about drama, Us v. Them,validation, greedy corporations and billionaires trying to get money while not caring if people are getting hurt or negatively on their platforms, and political warfare thanks to the government and politicians using the internet.
If I remember correctly, I remember a time when TH-cam was just dumb animal and skit videos. Not infested with drama or “tea channels” made by validation seeking Milennials and Gen Zers making money off of any internet drama or negativity that they see.
As a AI from a video game once said:
“What we propose to do is not control content, but to create context.”
la li lu le lo.
MGS2 predicted our present.
With every golden age comes a dark age.
But likewise, there's a Renaissance waiting to happen.
Edit: There's a mix of optimism, pessimism, neutral analysis and logical hope in this thread. This is what we need to apply for a Renaissance
That's not guaranteed.
You have to fight for it.
@@vienlacrose indeed, this is not an escalator, we must take the first steps.
@@quiban9603 both of you are correct
Like the optimism, but imo it won't be until gen z's turn to lead in influential positions.
TheRagingInfernape hope it happens soon. I’m tired of this shit.
“They took down hentai heaven nooooo.” What a chad
Halo 55223 simps :/
😂
Kid didnt even know its haven not heaven
Hentaihaven is garbage nowadays. I prefer hanime.tv.
To be fair, it began when the got rid of loli.
Now there's reels making everthing 10 times worse 😭
Back then, my parents were restrictive of me using the computer constantly.
Now, i am having to restrict my parents of using their smartphones constantly..
How so, more precisely ?
The irony, and it's so true.
@@nicholasleclerc1583 People are addicted to their smartphones, no matter what age. Unless you are a tech guy.
@@aronhighgrove4100, Yeah I really hope that this changes in around 10 to 15 years. But you never know maybe we might be all addicted to holograms instead lol.
The scary part is smartphone addiction is an even bigger and more widespread problem than computer addiction. You couldn't simply take your PC around everywhere you go, meanwhile smartphones can be taken to where even laptops cant and content on smartphones is often deliberately designed to be addictive.
Just like Disney owning almost half of the media/entertainment
The fucked part is that our attention isnt enough anymore. Being a loyal costumer means nothing - now you have to be a "premium" or "plus" member to get full features. Like Disney+ what is that shit. All these actors and influencers talking about it. And most of us know that they are paid to pretend *that's literally their job* but most dont seem to care about the neverending hyper-capitalist society constantly being crammed down their throats
And club penguin
And Amazon owning most webservers and controlling online trade.
@@icescoop6741 memes have truly begun the idiocracy
@@CBAN_ whats Idiocracy
It crushes me when i realize that those times are not coming back
gj on the 69 likes
sadly i didnt feel those times😔
It crushes me I didn't buy all,Google. Stocks or Bitcoin when I knew better :/
@@captainmoonrise1730 this x 1,000,000...
right?