Victory Cross Country - How I defeated buffeting!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ต.ค. 2024
- Buffeting can be a real problem that sucks the joy out of riding. This video covers my journey. I take a Victor Cross Country Tour and spend a decade riding in various configurations. Also, I make one more change to make it even better with the Madstad windshield.
Bikes:
- 1995 Honda Magna VF750C (Third Generation)
- 2013 Victory Cross Country Tour
Victory Mods:
- 7Jurock Custom Motorcycle Winshield - www.7jurock.com/
- Madstad Windshield - madstad.com/
- Klock Werks Windshield - amzn.to/3z8j7ie
- Victory Heal Shifter - amzn.to/3KcYB6o
- Shortie AM/FM Antenna - amzn.to/42JRR7p
- Victory Kicker premium speakers - amzn.to/3nqojLZ
- Ipod cable extension to right saddle bag
- Victory LED Headlight - amzn.to/3zc7oPM
- Tri-Oval Stage 1 Exhaust
- Victory Stage 1 performance air filter - amzn.to/3sxy79W (standard OEM filter)
- Kruzer Kaddy Chrome Cup Holder - amzn.to/3KdJz0x
- Kuryakyn highway pegs - amzn.to/3LOXLhE
Magna Mods:
- Kuryakyn ISO Grips - amzn.to/3LRmkdR
- Kuryakyn Mirrors - amzn.to/3ZkOII8
- Kuryakyn Passenger Pegs - amzn.to/3JNivnh
- Kuryakyn Driver Pegs - amzn.to/3LUs7zp
- Kuryakyn Shifter Pegs - amzn.to/3ZgxWKl
- Corbin Gunfighter Saddle
Safety Gear:
- Shoei GT-Air (latest is GT-Air II) - amzn.to/3LXZHV1
- Shoei CNS-1 Visor - amzn.to/3ZkyeQk
- Yuasa Jumper Cables - amzn.to/40FLz6U
- Stop & Go Mini Air Compressor - amzn.to/3FWfjV8
- Stop & Go Tire Repair Kit - amzn.to/3z6cWLT
- CruzTOOLS Metric Tool Kit - amzn.to/3KaTt2G
- CruzTOOLS Harley Tool Kit - amzn.to/42H0oYT
- Carhartt Tool Roll Bag - amzn.to/42Gwx2K
- MSR Fuel Bottle 11 Ounce - amzn.to/3z828Na
- MSR Fuel Bottle 20 Ounce - amzn.to/3LZMPxT
- MSR Fuel Bottle 30 Ounce - amzn.to/3LUubr9
- Adventure Medical First Aid Kit - amzn.to/3LW5f2m
MotoVlog Gear:
- Tascam DR-05X - amzn.to/40CGPyX
- Purple Panda Lavalier Lapel Mic: amzn.to/3ZkwBCp
- GoPro Hero 8: amzn.to/3ZogT9c
- GoPro Hero 4: amzn.to/3McfPmb
- RAM Camera (GoPro) Adapter AP-B-202U-GOP1:
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The fix is blocking the airflow from below. I guarantee buffeting would be gone if you put the tour lowers back on and take off the fork mounted lowers. I have the forged bar lowers and make/sell filler plates that eliminate buffeting completely to the point that the only thing a windshield does is change airflow over your head based off the height with zero buffeting. I also tried and have the Madstad (along with 4 other windshields) with no complete fix prior to lowers.
Hey there, you mentioned that you make/sell filler plates. Feel free to pop your business information in the chat for others to see. The community might be interested in what you are using/making. Safe riding!
@@chasingredlineofficial I mainly just do it through Facebook messenger and promote them through some of the Victory pages. Not sure how I’d do that here? My last set is going out tomorrow and I’m getting a quote on how material is now because I’m guessing it’s gone up sadly.
Which lower / fork deflectors did you install. I want the same ones
Hey thanks for asking. These exact deflectors were sold by Arlen Ness years ago. They don't manufacture them any longer. However, the same design is sold by witch doctors but with a mat black color. I have them linked on my website gear page if you'd like a direct link to them. Safe riding!
Trying to save money, I put 15mm spacer behind wind screen. Worked for my 6'1"
Great way to get a similar effect for less money!
Would be interesting to see a photo g
How it looks. Because idea os quite genius
New Victory video? What a treat
Thanks MCmoto!
@@chasingredlineofficial No prob, I’m on an 06 Victory Vegas I bought last year, just started recording vids on my rides. Been enjoying your vids my dude
@@MCmotoUSA That is awesome! I'll be sure to check out some of your content. I'm officially jealous of your Vegas. :)
Oh, and another side note. I love your logo. Did you make that yourself?
@@chasingredlineofficial thanks Dude! My wife designed it for me
I have a 2017 as you may be able to see in my profile pic. I added a set of Memphis Shades wind deflectors and A 13" Long Ride Shields windscreen.. Never had a problem after that. It takes a few rides to 'dial them in'.
I have a 2013 Cross Country and went with the lower wind deflectors and saw little difference. I saw another TH-camr’s post and he suggested the MadStad windshield and the soft lowers. I have been riding with them for about a year now and it has eliminated the buffeting. Your video just solidifies that this product works!
Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment! Glad your experience aligns with my findings. I'm happy to report that since making this video, the Madstad remains on the bike and is there to stay. Safe riding!
I had the same issue on my 13 XC and gave it a year to fix the wind management or I was done, as much as I loved the bike. Headaches overrode the enjoyment. Bike came with a Klokwerks 12” with a flip that looked good but wasn’t keeping my head from trying to come off at highway speeds.
I tried the fork mounted wind deflectors and I just don’t care for the look. I tried the triple tree deflector and it helped. I considered my helmet as a possible contributor (Bell Rogue) which I really liked but not as much as becoming buffeting free. Switching to a modular helmet helped but didn’t eliminate it. I’m making progress at this point but not quite there yet. A friend suggested getting lower fairings but I didn’t want to spend the money and I don’t care for the look. I tried a friends bike with lowers and I still had the buffeting 🤷🏼
I finally came across somebody saying they found the holy grail of cross bike wind management in a Madstad windshield. As you may have noticed, I’m particular about looks as well as eliminating the buffeting and I wasn’t impressed with the Madstad look but I ordered one (9” smoke) and put it on. Ran out to the freeway with it adjusted all the way down and hammered it to 80 for about 5 miles. Pulled off and adjusted the shield all the way up and ran it back down the highway again. I didn’t notice a difference with it high over low so I dropped it down again just for appearance.
I had found the sweet spot thanks to the Madstad.
Thank you for telling your story Kris! Sounds like you've found a good solution with the Madstad and you are a great example of sticking with it until you find the sweet spot. Safe riding!
I ride a 2012 CCT and still have the hard lowers on. After some research I got the Madstad Victory Magnum design. the adjustment allows to set up for best protection for you and that design looks great. I purchased one size taller than the chart suggested which leaves the windshield closed the fairing at the bottom and gives you the height to hit the right placement. It helps the cosmetics of the set up .
Thanks for the comment. I agree that keeping it low helps to blend into the bike. I've really gotten use to the Madstad to the point where I enjoy the look.
I had a 2011 vision and it is amazing to ride. Then last year I bought a 2014 XC with 800 miles on it. Also bought a 8 ball Vegas too the month prior… nevertheless as I rode the XC home after buying it the buffeting was so bad I didn’t want to ride it. After have a Vic vision I didn’t understand it, but after reading about it I ended up buying a klockwerks windshield and that made it OK. But still compared to my Vision not even close. Next I saw a article about the Madstad so for 60$, I tried it. Now I truly enjoy riding again. Hands down the nest 60$ I ever spent. Looks terrible but I don’t care, I got used to it. Like you said I bought victory(s)😊 because I don’t like the run of the mill. I do things my way, and I love it.
Thank you for sharing your experience and glad you were able to get the buffeting under control. The look has grown on me as time goes on. Looking forward to a full riding season with it this year. Thanks for watching and ride safe!
The xc is a magnum? Would u say it's a rough ride because the ass is so low in back and not enough travel?
My video on fixing the "heat & buffeting" issues of a Victory Cross Country is the most watched video on my channel.... I did use a Madstad but for the lower "wind control" I did something completely different and custom. Good ideas and good luck with the video.
Hey there! I just took a look at your video! That custom solution is pretty sick. It is amazing that the specific placement made such an impact. I hope others see your comment and check out your video!
Oh and side note, I really like the customizations you did on your XC.
@@chasingredlineofficial Unfortunately this year, after 10 years and 78k miles of ownership I had to give up the Vic, due to it having problems I didn't have time or facilities to deal with. I do miss the bike, it was a very cool ride and I have tons of memories made on it.
As I said in my video, I remember that first long ride with the massive buffeting I got. I was wearing a 3/4 helmet and my glasses wouldn't even stay on my face. The other issue was, when I tried the typical buffeting fixes, I literally got cooked by the engine heat. Some how I stuck with the bike until I worked it out...
With the Vic gone I purchased a 2018 Goldwing Tour back in August. I hate to say it, but there's no comparison between the two bikes, the Wing is a whole different world of comfort and power.
@@painsrides3616 Yeah, sad to see her go. I'll be very sad if that day comes for me but we are all just trying to keep these things on the road as long as we can.
That is awesome that you got a wing though. Those hold a special place for me as my dad had a 2000 Golding he purchased new and I was able to ride next to that bike until 2020 when he switched to three wheels (Can-Am). That thing sure have power left at highway speeds.
Heat was one of the reasons I took the lowers off but mostly it was just wanting to feel a bit more (clean) air and be able to see the road below me. I didn't care for the feeling of having a wall in front of me. Keeping the 106 cool was a bonus.
I have a 2010 Victory cross country. Where did you get your lowers ?
Hey there. These were sold by Arlen Ness years ago. The closest you can get now is sold by witch doctors. They are the same shape but the different material. There is a link from my website if you'd like to check them out. www.chasingredline.com. Check out the gear section.
My personal experience in over fifty years of riding is that you're bike can either "look cool" or be comfortable and often, the two are, usually, mutually exclusive. At 77 I opt for comfortable!
Great take on the discussion!
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Where did you get your smoked fork wind deflectors if you don't mind my asking?
I like those 👍
I'm only finding matt black from Witch Doctors and someone else on eBay.
Great info, thank you!!
Hey Greg, Arlen Ness used to sell them in smoked and clear versions. That is where I picked mine up. They stopped carrying them years ago. The closest I've found is the witch doctor version which you mentioned. As far as I can tell, the shape is almost identical with minor differences. The material is the biggest change. Hope the video helped!
@@chasingredlineofficial Thank you!! I'll go with those. Being a long time H-D guy, I really love this motorcycle. Thanks again for your help!! 👍🤟😎
Went with the Witchdoctor wind deflectors, huge help 👍
Had traded the short windshield for an 11" (can't remember the make) helped a bunch. Went ahead a got the Madstad setup with their 13" shield.
Man we love it!! Rode 300 miles yesterday with speeds reaching about 85 mph a couple of times (to get around and away from a couple of semi trucks) no wind buffeting issues at all. I may turn in the deflectors in a little bit to add a little more air as we are in Arkansas today. That was our 300 mi ride yesterday. Oh and I wanted to add that we added an ultimate seat with their driver backrest and passenger backrest pad. Man what a difference that made for my 61-year-old azz.
Anyway thank you so much for the inspiration, it made the bike into what it should be hitting the road. I could have easily done 500 mi yesterday and I haven't been on a long trip in over 5 years. completely love it now. The first ride home with that shorty windshield on it and I'm 6'4, just had my head knocking around with the helmet like I was a bobblehead lol..
Thank you so much for the great video, and I have shared it and other people enjoyed it as well. Peace out And be safe out there!! 👍😎
@@GregG628 You just made my day Greg! I'm so happy that the video was helpful for you and that you love your ride. I was just in Arkansas last weekend and love it down there. Hopefully you found some awesome roads to play on. Stay safe out there!
I have a 14 Cross Country and I love my Madstat windscreen.
Thank you for sharing!
What size did you get? 11 inch?
I got the 13". Seems to work well for my 6' 2" frame but is also positioned low.
Well Done ! Im sure you have helped a lot of other Victory owners !
Thank you! That is my goal. At the same time, I've learned so much from the community through their comments. Safe riding!
I have a '13 Cross Country Tour with 58,000 miles that I've had since brand new. I had the same buffeting issue ever since I took the lowers off. I tried many different windshields, but the Madstad definitely was the best for controlling the buffeting. It might look uglier, but I prefer the function of it over the look of it.
Thanks for sharing. I agree and would rather be comfortable riding all day than turn heads while parked.
Hi Broggyr 😎
@@painsrides3616 Greetings old friend.
"1000 miles in a day" I call bull 💩
:) If you haven't discovered the Iron Butt Association yet, I'd recommend you check it out. Might inspire you to attempt some longer rides. Saddlesore 1000 is generally considered the entry level IBA ride. Safe riding!
That is what a motorbike is about the feeling of wind and freedom in your hair go hard victory forever never say die freedom
To me, the Madstad was instantly beautiful the moment I first rode with it. I bought my XCT about 9 years ago and I really disliked looking through the stock barn door windshield and it was also ridiculously hot. The Madstad solved both problems. I remove the hard lowers during summer months and I still find the buffeting tolerable up to about 80mph. It keeps me in check.
Thanks for sharing!
I've got about 250,000 miles on two different Vic XC's with the Madstad bracket - and I find that it's 50% of the equation when it comes to stopping the bad air. Fork deflectors are the other half from my experience.
Recently I purchased my 3rd XC and I switched it up on the lower half. I made some wind deflectors that mount where the factory fairing wings mount - onto the bottom two bolts of the inner fairing. They basically block wind in the same area as the factory wings when they're fully closed. Those are working exceptionally well without lower fork deflectors at all. However - I might be getting more heat in the seat. I've always heard folks complain about engine heat on the XC, but I never experienced it. This is a new bike to me, so maybe it just runs hotter. I don't know. So...I'm going to switch these out and try my trusty old fork deflectors to see if the heat problem dissipates.
Hey there, thanks for sharing your experience. I'll be curious what you find on the heat issue when you do your testing. There have been a lot of thoughts shared on the channel around heat and I also haven't really felt that. With that said, I've had those fork deflectors on for most of this bike's lifespan. Ride safe!
I am 6'3" ,I've tried all that on HD,Indian and Vics it was always trade off of kinda helps vs looks. So I just go ride my Himalayan (which I love) then when I get on the cool short windshielded Vic it's like wow this is nice!
Ha! Going from the Himalayan to the Vic would be quite the relaxing flip! But I do bet that Himalayan is a fun ride!
Swapped from stock to lthe Klockwerks mid-screen and still had buffeting with a full-face helmet. Swapped helmets to Victory's half-shell helmet and the problem was solved. Never looked back. Still my favourite 600 km per day touring setup after 10 years.
Awesome! Thanks for sharing.
Do you ever use Bluetooth communications when you ride? I've seen some add them to half helmets but curious if you've done that with the Vic helmet.
Safe riding!
Thanks for the video. i rock a '13 cc witk a klockwerks w screen, helped somewhat, definitely going to check out the Madstad products
I'm glad the video helped! If you try it out, be sure to report back on your experience. It would help the community to hear about your results. Safe riding!
Get a different helmet
My XCT had a Madstad on it when I purchased it used. I absolutely hated that windshield. Mainly because I could not get used to how far forward the windshield sits. And it was not the easiest or the most sturdy to adjust. And of course it's butt ugly 😅 I changed it out with a fairly short shield with a flair on the top and it works great and looks great! Thanks for the Victory content. Love My Victory XCT 😎
Ha! Thanks for the comment Michael. It is definitely a different look over what I had been using. The XCT fairing is pretty far forward to start with and this does push it out another couple inches. Glad you found a shield that works well for you!
I want to ride with someone that has experienced this buffeting so I know what it is.
I have a 2012 CC with forged bars and the glove box hard lowers with the wing vents.
I just don’t notice anything out of the ordinary. Typical cross wind push and differing amount of wind when passing semis.
It is very interesting as many report awful buffeting and others report none at all. In my observation, the XCT doesn't have a buffeting problem. The XC can but any kind of lower reduces it by various degrees. Rider height also might play a part. A very low wind screen can also reduce it as well by reducing the vacuum effect. Wind screens of medium height seem to be worse off. Riding at lower speeds does not raise to a problem. Higher speeds for long periods of time increase the impact. All that to say, it is a very personal thing it seems like. What size shield are you rocking?
Thanks for watching and the comment!
@@chasingredlineofficial I was running the stock 17” for the last 2 years. I recently changed to an 11” which I don’t have a lot of miles on yet. I’m 6’ 1” and usually run 95 or so on the highway.
I may switch back to the big shield for the winter since I ride year round. Depends on how cold I get with the new windshield and a full face helmet.
@@chanedevier2713 Roger that. 17" to 11" is quite the jump. So you and I are comparable heights. Have you rode much without the hard lowers? This is an interesting comparison.
@@chasingredlineofficial I’ve never ridden without the lowers. My lowers are aftermarket. Apparently back in the day, JTD made inserts for the forged bars.
@@chasingredlineofficial I have never ridden without. My lowers are aftermarket. Apparently, back in the day JTD made inserts for the forged bars on the CC.
I cant hear the Vic tic?! What did you do to remove that?
Interestingly enough, I've never had that problem in the 11 years I've owned the bike. What I can say is that I have the stage 1 setup which may contribute to the result. That includes the performance reusable filter, triovals, a flash, and I always use Victory oil.
Different, sure, but I think it looks great!
Thank you Chris! As I've ridden with it for longer, it is amazing how quickly you get used to it. The wind improvement has remained consistent which is great.
When i had Victory I enjoyed them, I had a 2015 Magnum which was great for when i was riding 1-up, then had a 2016 Cross Country Tour for when my wife wanted to come ride, got them new and then sold them both in spring of 2021 and went back to Harley. In 2023 my wife wanted to start riding again and picked her in a Tri Glide, i dont see myself going back to Polaris anytime soon. Indian just has too much of a plastic feel to it.
Thanks for the comment. What model Harley did you end up going to?
@@chasingredlineofficial
2021 Street Glide, but I do miss my 16 Magnum
What made you decide to sell your Victory's and go back to Harley?
Do you like the street or the magnum better?????
Was the magnum a rough ride because it's lowered in back?